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Tony Blair is “absolutely a liar”
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"He has to be one of the most disingenuous British politicians ever.
One of the most popular too. 3 back to back elections with massive majorities  "
Is he quite so popular now though, now his Iraq war and massive PFI debts, have been exposed? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"He has to be one of the most disingenuous British politicians ever.
One of the most popular too. 3 back to back elections with massive majorities "
Does this just show how good a liar he was? |
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"He has to be one of the most disingenuous British politicians ever.
One of the most popular too. 3 back to back elections with massive majorities
Does this just show how good a liar he was?"
Possibly but it also gives light to the fact that some of our electorate care little for informing themselves before putting their cross in the box..
Brexit looks to have had similar..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He has to be one of the most disingenuous British politicians ever.
One of the most popular too. 3 back to back elections with massive majorities
Is he quite so popular now though, now his Iraq war and massive PFI debts, have been exposed?"
and! |
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"Never voted for him but always liked the fucks he never gives..Teflon Tony was untouchable and still is "
Ditto..
It must rile some of the tories that did keep him in power by voting for 'new Labour', not that many now admit it.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He has to be one of the most disingenuous British politicians ever.
One of the most popular too. 3 back to back elections with massive majorities
Is he quite so popular now though, now his Iraq war and massive PFI debts, have been exposed?
and!"
Helped to stop geniside in Bosnia |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"He has to be one of the most disingenuous British politicians ever.
One of the most popular too. 3 back to back elections with massive majorities
Is he quite so popular now though, now his Iraq war and massive PFI debts, have been exposed?
and!
Helped to stop geniside in Bosnia "
And Sierra Leone |
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"He has to be one of the most disingenuous British politicians ever.
One of the most popular too. 3 back to back elections with massive majorities
Is he quite so popular now though, now his Iraq war and massive PFI debts, have been exposed?
and!
Helped to stop geniside in Bosnia "
How did he do that when it was before he was even pm |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"as prime minister was his role in bringing an end to decades of conflict in Northern Ireland etc etc"
That process started in 1994, long before Blair.
The 1994 PIRA ceasefire allowed John Major and Bill Clinton to send in George Mitchell, from where the GFA came from. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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In 1995, the two governments published the Joint Framework document. Yet, following
apparent intransigence and unwillingness to negotiate by the Major-led Conservative British
government, the IRA resumed the conflict in 1996 after a 17-month ceasefire. After
considerable pressure from US President Bill Clinton to advance the peace process, the Blairled
Labour government, elected in 1997, adopted a much more open policy that allowed the
paramilitaries to have a place at the negotiating table |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Blair is at the top of my list for most unsavoury politicians ever. I actually abhor the man and his legacy."
I don't see many people calling to scrap his legacy. You want to scrap devolution? Scrap peace in NI? Scrap the minimum wage? Scrap tax credits? Scrap pension credit?
No, I'm quite happy with his legacy thanks |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Blair is at the top of my list for most unsavoury politicians ever. I actually abhor the man and his legacy.
I don't see many people calling to scrap his legacy. You want to scrap devolution? Scrap peace in NI? Scrap the minimum wage? Scrap tax credits? Scrap pension credit?
No, I'm quite happy with his legacy thanks "
I'm quite happy with his legacy .One of the best we've had.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"He has to be one of the most disingenuous British politicians ever.
One of the most popular too. 3 back to back elections with massive majorities
Is he quite so popular now though, now his Iraq war and massive PFI debts, have been exposed?
and!
Helped to stop geniside in Bosnia
And Sierra Leone "
reminds me of many years back "The Cannibal Warlords of Liberia"
anyone googled this or watched full documentary ? |
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"Don't forget to add "the great pension raid of 1997" to the list of achievements.
And taking the country to war in Iraq on the back of a pack of lies. "
And which the tories followed and voted for like sheep.. |
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"Don't forget to add "the great pension raid of 1997" to the list of achievements.
And taking the country to war in Iraq on the back of a pack of lies.
And which the tories followed and voted for like sheep.. "
Blair was the Prime minister, so he was the one who had access to the intelligence. The Chilcot inquiry exposed that Blair knew the intelligence was questionable and dodgy, yet Blair sexed up the intelligence to Parliament and the general public. Blair misled Parliament and the general public. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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The Sure Start programme for disadvantaged pre-schoolers was something no Tory government would ever of considered .I think he was genuinely concerned about child poverty.3 back to back wins tells you the public loved him.  |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"The Sure Start programme for disadvantaged pre-schoolers was something no Tory government would ever of considered .I think he was genuinely concerned about child poverty.3 back to back wins tells you the public loved him. "
Indeed. The people had spoken.
-Matt |
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"Don't forget to add "the great pension raid of 1997" to the list of achievements.
And taking the country to war in Iraq on the back of a pack of lies.
And which the tories followed and voted for like sheep..
Blair was the Prime minister, so he was the one who had access to the intelligence. The Chilcot inquiry exposed that Blair knew the intelligence was questionable and dodgy, yet Blair sexed up the intelligence to Parliament and the general public. Blair misled Parliament and the general public. "
You will note that I did not disagree with you on the point about Iraq, having been opposed to it and on the march in London my views on that aspect of his tenure are publicly known on here..
You missed once again the point made that your lot voted on what they were spoon fed by him in parliament and did not question the dodgy dossier unlike many others..
Sheep.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Every hospital A&E was modernised or replaced in the Labour years
3 million pensioners living in poverty;... when he left it was 2 million
since then back to square one under the tories
not all bad i quess |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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85,000 more nurses. 32,000 more doctors
less time on waiting lists
oh yes all gone now
if you need a doctor or hospital appointment..remember how it was and is now!!!! |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"may be there is just to many people in our small country ....doing f all x"
What do you suggest then? Mandated sterilisation? Forced labour camps?
Maybe... just maybe... there isn't too many people in our small country... maybe it is due to lack of funding, lack of training for new staff, and people like Hunt pissing everyone off so they leave. Just a thought.
-Matt |
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"85,000 more nurses. 32,000 more doctors
less time on waiting lists
oh yes all gone now
if you need a doctor or hospital appointment..remember how it was and is now!!!!"
Yes i remember how it was under the Blair/Brown years. Patients being rushed though A and E and not being given a proper duty of care all in the name of meeting Labour imposed 'targets' and patients on wards needing a drink so bad they resorted to drinking water from dirty flower vases at Stafford hospital. If that's Labour's vision of how the NHS should be frankly you can keep it! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"85,000 more nurses. 32,000 more doctors
less time on waiting lists
oh yes all gone now
if you need a doctor or hospital appointment..remember how it was and is now!!!!
Yes i remember how it was under the Blair/Brown years. Patients being rushed though A and E and not being given a proper duty of care all in the name of meeting Labour imposed 'targets' and patients on wards needing a drink so bad they resorted to drinking water from dirty flower vases at Stafford hospital. If that's Labour's vision of how the NHS should be frankly you can keep it! "
Yep your right.
urm what happens now..oh yes chances are you die while waiting for treatment in some hospital corridor
because of a shortage of doctors and nurses!! |
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"Our maybe you have parkinsons and half to wait almost a year between appointments!"
Rather that than being rushed through the system, not being assessed properly, not being diagnosed properly, not being treated properly or not being operated on properly to meet some half baked Labour imposed performance target. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Don't forget to add "the great pension raid of 1997" to the list of achievements.
And taking the country to war in Iraq on the back of a pack of lies.
And which the tories followed and voted for like sheep..
Blair was the Prime minister, so he was the one who had access to the intelligence. The Chilcot inquiry exposed that Blair knew the intelligence was questionable and dodgy, yet Blair sexed up the intelligence to Parliament and the general public. Blair misled Parliament and the general public. "
The PM has the prerogative power to take the country to war regardless of the public or parliament. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"Don't forget to add "the great pension raid of 1997" to the list of achievements.
And taking the country to war in Iraq on the back of a pack of lies.
And which the tories followed and voted for like sheep..
Blair was the Prime minister, so he was the one who had access to the intelligence. The Chilcot inquiry exposed that Blair knew the intelligence was questionable and dodgy, yet Blair sexed up the intelligence to Parliament and the general public. Blair misled Parliament and the general public.
The PM has the prerogative power to take the country to war regardless of the public or parliament."
So what?
He lied about the justification for that war, just as he lied about a myriad of other things. The title of the thread is "Tony Blair - Liar" not "Tony was justified in his lies and deciet"... |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Human vermin, set out (and partially succeeded) to destroy the Labour Party and Labour movement.
I dislike him more than the Tories - at least they openly hate the working man. "
Would you prefer no Labour government since 1979?  |
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I think we often forget that this is a website for people who are looking for sexual adventures.
There are many political forums online where the level of debate is informed and erudite such as "politicsforum" "studentroom" or "debatepolitics".
I certainly wouldn't go to those sites looking for swingers, so why would anyone want to engage in any sort of political discussion on this site?
You can see that every time, whatever the topic, the exchanges become insulting, banal and mindless.
Stick to what you know - which is shagging!
Go elsewhere for the brainy stuff.
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"I think we often forget that this is a website for people who are looking for sexual adventures.
There are many political forums online where the level of debate is informed and erudite such as "politicsforum" "studentroom" or "debatepolitics".
I certainly wouldn't go to those sites looking for swingers, so why would anyone want to engage in any sort of political discussion on this site?
You can see that every time, whatever the topic, the exchanges become insulting, banal and mindless.
Stick to what you know - which is shagging!
Go elsewhere for the brainy stuff.
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So what?
He lied about the justification for that war, just as he lied about a myriad of other things. The title of the thread is "Tony Blair - Liar" not "Tony was justified in his lies and deciet"...
Actually the title of this thread is "Tony Blair is “absolutely a liar”"
If you are unable even to quote that correctly it doesn't say much for your abilities as a forensic political analyst, does it?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"85,000 more nurses. 32,000 more doctors
less time on waiting lists
oh yes all gone now
if you need a doctor or hospital appointment..remember how it was and is now!!!!"
and now;
NHS medication errors contribute to as many as 22,000 deaths a year, major report shows |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"Human vermin, set out (and partially succeeded) to destroy the Labour Party and Labour movement.
I dislike him more than the Tories - at least they openly hate the working man.
Would you prefer no Labour government since 1979? "
There hasn't been. "New" Labour were not a "Labour government". |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
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So what?
He lied about the justification for that war, just as he lied about a myriad of other things. The title of the thread is "Tony Blair - Liar" not "Tony was justified in his lies and deciet"...
Actually the title of this thread is "Tony Blair is “absolutely a liar”"
If you are unable even to quote that correctly it doesn't say much for your abilities as a forensic political analyst, does it? "
Tell me what the difference is in meaning between "Tony Blair -Liar" and "Tony Blair is absolutely a liar" please?
Do you actually have a contribution relating to the subject in hand?
As for your point about specific politics forums - I've posted on those in my time (although neither of the ones that you mention). I don't see how it stops politics being relevant here, even in the most banal "shagging" forum.
The personal is political, after all. |
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"Human vermin, set out (and partially succeeded) to destroy the Labour Party and Labour movement.
I dislike him more than the Tories - at least they openly hate the working man.
Would you prefer no Labour government since 1979?
There hasn't been. "New" Labour were not a "Labour government"."
Wrong again. You really aren't very good at this are you? Throughout the period of New Labour - 1996 - 2010, all candidates in general elections, local elections and Euro elections stood as candidates for the Labour Party. This included all more left wing members of the party including Jeremy Cornyn, Tony Benn and Dennis Skinner. The name came from;
New Labour, New Life For Britain - the political manifesto published in 1996 by the Labour Party which rebranded itself as New Labour under Tony Blair. The manifesto set out the party's new "Third Way" centrist approach to policy. Same party, just a different approach to policy, campaigning and presentation...with astonishingly successful results. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Making the bank of England independent.
The good Friday agreement.
The minimum wage.
The list goes on. "
Blair signed off on the good Friday agreement months after coming into office. The legwork was done by Major! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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So what?
He lied about the justification for that war, just as he lied about a myriad of other things. The title of the thread is "Tony Blair - Liar" not "Tony was justified in his lies and deciet"...
Actually the title of this thread is "Tony Blair is “absolutely a liar”"
If you are unable even to quote that correctly it doesn't say much for your abilities as a forensic political analyst, does it?
Tell me what the difference is in meaning between "Tony Blair -Liar" and "Tony Blair is absolutely a liar" please?
Do you actually have a contribution relating to the subject in hand?
As for your point about specific politics forums - I've posted on those in my time (although neither of the ones that you mention). I don't see how it stops politics being relevant here, even in the most banal "shagging" forum.
The personal is political, after all."
“Absolutely a liar” was quoting the interview on Andrew Marr. |
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"He has to be one of the most disingenuous British politicians ever.
One of the most popular too. 3 back to back elections with massive majorities "
At a time when the conservatives were virtually unelectable yes he did win three times... its the same now... labour are a farcical embarrassment to world politics.. He is a champagne socialist and a traitor to the working class of whom he was supposed to represent.. a grinning liar of olympic proportions |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"Human vermin, set out (and partially succeeded) to destroy the Labour Party and Labour movement.
I dislike him more than the Tories - at least they openly hate the working man.
Would you prefer no Labour government since 1979?
There hasn't been. "New" Labour were not a "Labour government".
Wrong again. You really aren't very good at this are you? Throughout the period of New Labour - 1996 - 2010, all candidates in general elections, local elections and Euro elections stood as candidates for the Labour Party. This included all more left wing members of the party including Jeremy Cornyn, Tony Benn and Dennis Skinner. The name came from;
New Labour, New Life For Britain - the political manifesto published in 1996 by the Labour Party which rebranded itself as New Labour under Tony Blair. The manifesto set out the party's new "Third Way" centrist approach to policy. Same party, just a different approach to policy, campaigning and presentation...with astonishingly successful results."
Yes, and the "third way" approach abandoned the Labour movement, ergo they were not a "Labour" Party. Some socialist candidates does not a Labour Party make.
New Labour were a centrist, capitalist party. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
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So what?
He lied about the justification for that war, just as he lied about a myriad of other things. The title of the thread is "Tony Blair - Liar" not "Tony was justified in his lies and deciet"...
Actually the title of this thread is "Tony Blair is “absolutely a liar”"
If you are unable even to quote that correctly it doesn't say much for your abilities as a forensic political analyst, does it?
Tell me what the difference is in meaning between "Tony Blair -Liar" and "Tony Blair is absolutely a liar" please?
Do you actually have a contribution relating to the subject in hand?
As for your point about specific politics forums - I've posted on those in my time (although neither of the ones that you mention). I don't see how it stops politics being relevant here, even in the most banal "shagging" forum.
The personal is political, after all.
“Absolutely a liar” was quoting the interview on Andrew Marr."
I know, I've seen it. |
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