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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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So lets see how many think England subsidy Scotland ?
Then answer this if we in Scotland are such a drain on England we keep Scotland in this so called UK?
I suppose its all for Scotlands benefit we in Scotland are too poor eh ? Need Englands help cant ever do it ourselfs lmao
English NHS in meltdown but your telling me England wanna give their money away to hellp little old poor Scotland yeah fucking righting dont be daft !!! |
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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago
Burton-on-Trent |
Oh, did the other thread get full again?
Anyway, yes. Bunch of useless whining buggers. I was in Edinburgh this week and took loads of dole money off people who would have just spent it on deep fried mars bars or buckfast anyway. Instead they gave it to me for a spanked arse and I took it back into England to spend there.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
my god you are a one trick pony....
but yes, as per head of the population, more money is spent on those who happen to be in scotland than those in england (and those in wales as well)
do i begrudge that..... not in the slightest ! there are historical and socio-economic reasons as to why that is the case....
some "could" say you hate the english more than anyone south of the border hates the scottish...... and i don't believe they would be far wrong from your ever consistant postings.... |
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This is the difference between total revenue and current expenditure (i.e. excluding capital investment). The current budget balance:
Excluding North Sea revenue, was a deficit of £9.8 billion (6.5 per cent of GDP).
Including an illustrative geographic share of North Sea revenue, was a deficit of £9.6 billion (6.0 per cent of GDP).
For the UK, was a deficit of £8.1 billion (0.4 per cent of GDP)
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There's your answer.
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Will I get one!
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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"my god you are a one trick pony....
but yes, as per head of the population, more money is spent on those who happen to be in scotland than those in england (and those in wales as well)
do i begrudge that..... not in the slightest ! there are historical and socio-economic reasons as to why that is the case....
some "could" say you hate the english more than anyone south of the border hates the scottish...... and i don't believe they would be far wrong from your ever consistant postings...."
Totally agree. Bout time the scots got that massive chip off there shoulder. |
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"my god you are a one trick pony....
but yes, as per head of the population, more money is spent on those who happen to be in scotland than those in england (and those in wales as well)
do i begrudge that..... not in the slightest ! there are historical and socio-economic reasons as to why that is the case....
some "could" say you hate the english more than anyone south of the border hates the scottish...... and i don't believe they would be far wrong from your ever consistant postings...."
your right Fabio it's all down to his hatred of the English it comes across on every post bet he's one of them that supports Germany when they play England at football lol I'd prefer to see some of the money that goes to Scotland come to the north east instead tho |
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The reason Scotland is in the UK is because the people of Scotland voted for it to stay in the UK.
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I will repeat this again.
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"my god you are a one trick pony....
but yes, as per head of the population, more money is spent on those who happen to be in scotland than those in england (and those in wales as well)
do i begrudge that..... not in the slightest ! there are historical and socio-economic reasons as to why that is the case....
some "could" say you hate the english more than anyone south of the border hates the scottish...... and i don't believe they would be far wrong from your ever consistant postings.... your right Fabio it's all down to his hatred of the English it comes across on every post bet he's one of them that supports Germany when they play England at football lol I'd prefer to see some of the money that goes to Scotland come to the north east instead tho "
Not a fan of football try again |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Nope i dont hate English people how many times do i have to say
I hate everything to do with Westminster
So if Scotland is a drain on England why keep us in the UK ?"
I'm sorry... but i don't believe you don't hate the english.... what you type right now doesn't marry with what you are quoting....
time and time again its "lets bash the english"
if i was allowed to.... if i was to start a thread asking " do you think kinky hates the english"..... I think you'd be shocked by some of the answers....
you may not realise it, but some of your posts at best are antagonistic (like this thread....) and at worst are bordering on being really offensive (i have reported more than 1)....
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I'll try again!
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Nope i dont hate English people how many times do i have to say
I hate everything to do with Westminster
So if Scotland is a drain on England why keep us in the UK ?
I'm sorry... but i don't believe you don't hate the english.... what you type right now doesn't marry with what you are quoting....
time and time again its "lets bash the english"
if i was allowed to.... if i was to start a thread asking " do you think kinky hates the english"..... I think you'd be shocked by some of the answers....
you may not realise it, but some of your posts at best are antagonistic (like this thread....) and at worst are bordering on being really offensive (i have reported more than 1)....
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Thats your opinion
But i am telling i fucking hate everything do do with that shit hole called Westminster
Hell i even want England to be independent live by their own means and stop this bullshit of unequal union called the UK
Its about time people saw this and stopped trying to slience pro indy supporters
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You may ignore me but I won't be silenced either.
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"You keep saying if Scotland is such a drain why keep us in the UK you are aware the Scots had a vote it wasn't the English that voted Scotland stayed in the U.K. You do know that dint you kinky "
Lmao
Remind me again which plockers of the UK Labour , Tory and Lib Dem shat themselves with a week to go in the Scottish independence referendum begging Scotland not leave and offering Scotland more powers that was not even on the ballot paper ?
They also told Scotland dont leave us lead the UK now thats done its back in your box and get telt deom the masters what we can have in powers and no even have a say in brexit which does effect Scotland
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Unfortunately, due to the many many many threads on this fucking subject you've started, no-one can be accused of silencing you. "
Oh really ? So no one has said to stop with the threads
I have told yous if your that bored do not comment then its not for you move on lol
What its starting to look like is people cant stand Scotland being talked about what Is it Scotland shiuld get back in box ? |
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over a year ago
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"So lets see how many think England subsidy Scotland ?
Then answer this if we in Scotland are such a drain on England we keep Scotland in this so called UK?
I suppose its all for Scotlands benefit we in Scotland are too poor eh ? Need Englands help cant ever do it ourselfs lmao
English NHS in meltdown but your telling me England wanna give their money away to hellp little old poor Scotland yeah fucking righting dont be daft !!!"
YES
And I don't know why we keep Scotland in the UK !
Or why we even have a UK !
I'm Back lol |
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Asking you to stop is not the same as "silencing" you.
You really need to get some perspective, and listen to people that may have a valid criticism.
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Heres that elephant in the room again.
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"So lets see how many think England subsidy Scotland ?
Then answer this if we in Scotland are such a drain on England we keep Scotland in this so called UK?
I suppose its all for Scotlands benefit we in Scotland are too poor eh ? Need Englands help cant ever do it ourselfs lmao
English NHS in meltdown but your telling me England wanna give their money away to hellp little old poor Scotland yeah fucking righting dont be daft !!! YES
And I don't know why we keep Scotland in the UK !
Or why we even have a UK !
I'm Back lol "
Maybe just maybe have an English independence referendum lmao i would support that you have my full backing
But sadly for you there seems to to be alot trying to hang on to Scotland |
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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago
Burton-on-Trent |
"Unfortunately, due to the many many many threads on this fucking subject you've started, no-one can be accused of silencing you.
Oh really ? So no one has said to stop with the threads
I have told yous if your that bored do not comment then its not for you move on lol
What its starting to look like is people cant stand Scotland being talked about what Is it Scotland shiuld get back in box ?"
No, we can stand issues in Scotland being talked about.
Just not the same one. Asked over and over again. In slightly different ways and in increasingly aggressive and anti-english tones. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Unfortunately, due to the many many many threads on this fucking subject you've started, no-one can be accused of silencing you.
Oh really ? So no one has said to stop with the threads
I have told yous if your that bored do not comment then its not for you move on lol
What its starting to look like is people cant stand Scotland being talked about what Is it Scotland shiuld get back in box ?
No, we can stand issues in Scotland being talked about.
Just not the same one. Asked over and over again. In slightly different ways and in increasingly aggressive and anti-english tones."
Ah but its ok to be anti Scottish ?
You never heard the " Scotland will be told when it can have a referendum shit " ?
When people should really know the Scottish people will decide when another independence referendum is wanted in Scotland just so happens to be we in Scotland did vote for one and so did the Scottish parilament |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Unfortunately, due to the many many many threads on this fucking subject you've started, no-one can be accused of silencing you.
Oh really ? So no one has said to stop with the threads
I have told yous if your that bored do not comment then its not for you move on lol
What its starting to look like is people cant stand Scotland being talked about what Is it Scotland shiuld get back in box ?
No, we can stand issues in Scotland being talked about.
Just not the same one. Asked over and over again. In slightly different ways and in increasingly aggressive and anti-english tones.
Ah but its ok to be anti Scottish ?
You never heard the " Scotland will be told when it can have a referendum shit " ?
When people should really know the Scottish people will decide when another independence referendum is wanted in Scotland just so happens to be we in Scotland did vote for one and so did the Scottish parilament "
As you well know, the Scottish Government can have a referendum anytime it likes.
It wouldn't be recognised by the UK Parliament though. That's a fact and that's the law. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Unfortunately, due to the many many many threads on this fucking subject you've started, no-one can be accused of silencing you.
Oh really ? So no one has said to stop with the threads
I have told yous if your that bored do not comment then its not for you move on lol
What its starting to look like is people cant stand Scotland being talked about what Is it Scotland shiuld get back in box ?
No, we can stand issues in Scotland being talked about.
Just not the same one. Asked over and over again. In slightly different ways and in increasingly aggressive and anti-english tones.
Ah but its ok to be anti Scottish ?
You never heard the " Scotland will be told when it can have a referendum shit " ?
When people should really know the Scottish people will decide when another independence referendum is wanted in Scotland just so happens to be we in Scotland did vote for one and so did the Scottish parilament
As you well know, the Scottish Government can have a referendum anytime it likes.
It wouldn't be recognised by the UK Parliament though. That's a fact and that's the law."
And if that were to had how foolish will the UK government look and look very dictatorship like
The UK government thinks its ok to take the whole UK out of the EU on a non binding referendum so if that ok then they would have to respect a YES vote on a non binding independence referendum
Best just have a legally binding independence with both sides can put their sides across and allow the Scottish people to decide unless they are chicken shit lol
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So lets see how many think England subsidy Scotland ?
Then answer this if we in Scotland are such a drain on England we keep Scotland in this so called UK?
I suppose its all for Scotlands benefit we in Scotland are too poor eh ? Need Englands help cant ever do it ourselfs lmao
English NHS in meltdown but your telling me England wanna give their money away to hellp little old poor Scotland yeah fucking righting dont be daft !!! YES
And I don't know why we keep Scotland in the UK !
Or why we even have a UK !
I'm Back lol
Maybe just maybe have an English independence referendum lmao i would support that you have my full backing
But sadly for you there seems to to be alot trying to hang on to Scotland "
that is my Dream ?? up the ENP ?? |
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"happens to be we in Scotland did vote for one and so did the Scottish Parliament"
Now another untruth, the only party that had an independence referendum in their manifesto was the snp, they do not have a majority in The Scottish Parliament. In that election they got 46% of the vote, whereas anti referendum parties got 52.2% of the vote.
Clear that kinky is wrong on both counts.
Yet another blatant untruth that can be easily checked.
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I wonder if I will get lucky this time. 
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"So lets see how many think England subsidy Scotland ?
Then answer this if we in Scotland are such a drain on England we keep Scotland in this so called UK?
I suppose its all for Scotlands benefit we in Scotland are too poor eh ? Need Englands help cant ever do it ourselfs lmao
English NHS in meltdown but your telling me England wanna give their money away to hellp little old poor Scotland yeah fucking righting dont be daft !!! YES
And I don't know why we keep Scotland in the UK !
Or why we even have a UK !
I'm Back lol
Maybe just maybe have an English independence referendum lmao i would support that you have my full backing
But sadly for you there seems to to be alot trying to hang on to Scotland that is my Dream ?? up the ENP ??"
Well god luck too you
You have my support for England to be independent
There is no use in this so called UK |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
Jesus christ
Holyrood their is a pro indy majority
Marxh last year their was a debate and a vote on the section 30 order it democratically passed 69-59
To give the Scottish government a mandate to hold a referendum on Scottish independence
Now do people now NOT agree with Ruth Davidsons words back in 2011 when she said this and i quote ......
"“You don’t get a referendum for free, you have to earn it. So if the Greens and the SNP – and the SSP or any of the other parties who’ve declared an interest in independence – get over the line and can make a coalition, make a majority, get the votes in the Parliament, then they’ll vote through a referendum, and that’s what democracy’s all about… it’s perfectly simple”
Here is the vid incase you claim i am lying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYjzqrRQ-rU |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Nope i dont hate English people how many times do i have to say
I hate everything to do with Westminster
So if Scotland is a drain on England why keep us in the UK ?
Get help"
Get help get help get help get help get help
That what your programmed to say ? Lol |
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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over a year ago
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"Now i could rub it in with the Scotland vs England rugby game but
I will say Commiserations to England lol "
I wish someone would subidy the English rugby team  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Kinky we know they are so jealous of our fabulous living standards, Charismatic leader and outward look on life...We have no need for the other nations in the UK....|We are being held back by these other countries draining us of our natural resources...Time is up for the Uk |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Now i could rub it in with the Scotland vs England rugby game but
I will say Commiserations to England lol
I wish someone would subidy the English rugby team "
Was a good match though |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Now i could rub it in with the Scotland vs England rugby game but
I will say Commiserations to England lol
I wish someone would subidy the English rugby team
Was a good match though
Get help"
need rebooted ? You seem to be stuck on repeat
You might need reprogrammed |
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"Now i could rub it in with the Scotland vs England rugby game but
I will say Commiserations to England lol
I wish someone would subidy the English rugby team
Was a good match though
Get help
need rebooted ? You seem to be stuck on repeat
You might need reprogrammed "
Talking Therapists |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Now i could rub it in with the Scotland vs England rugby game but
I will say Commiserations to England lol
I wish someone would subidy the English rugby team
Was a good match though
Get help
need rebooted ? You seem to be stuck on repeat
You might need reprogrammed
Talking Therapists"
Reboot |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky |
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"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky "
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky "
Dont talk pish!!!
Had each others backs my arse! So Scotland thanked England for voting Tory eh ?
Away and lie doon lol |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Oh Kinky your being a bigot...Sometimes you do not get what you want...Like 2014 but sometimes like the 2015 election you did. Me i love how this country has blossomed due to the remarkable changes the SNP has made to our wonderful country |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"Oh Kinky your being a bigot...Sometimes you do not get what you want...Like 2014 but sometimes like the 2015 election you did. Me i love how this country has blossomed due to the remarkable changes the SNP has made to our wonderful country "
Which country you on aboot ? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky
Dont talk pish!!!
Had each others backs my arse! So Scotland thanked England for voting Tory eh ?
Away and lie doon lol"
Are these the same Tories you said would never win seats in Scotland?
The same Tories that are in Westminster, whilst the ex-Member for Gordon hawked himself around the Edinburgh Fringe?
What a deluded world you live in, totally divorced from reality.
So how would an independent Scotland post Brexit deal with their deficit and share of the national debt? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky
Dont talk pish!!!
Had each others backs my arse! So Scotland thanked England for voting Tory eh ?
Away and lie doon lol
Are these the same Tories you said would never win seats in Scotland?
The same Tories that are in Westminster, whilst the ex-Member for Gordon hawked himself around the Edinburgh Fringe?
What a deluded world you live in, totally divorced from reality.
So how would an independent Scotland post Brexit deal with their deficit and share of the national debt?"
Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"So lets see how many think England subsidy Scotland ?
Then answer this if we in Scotland are such a drain on England we keep Scotland in this so called UK?
I suppose its all for Scotlands benefit we in Scotland are too poor eh ? Need Englands help cant ever do it ourselfs lmao
English NHS in meltdown but your telling me England wanna give their money away to hellp little old poor Scotland yeah fucking righting dont be daft !!!"
Yes you are a drain but we are kind if a bit daft so we help you,you could not manage without help from Westminster and you do not appreciate it your selfish |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky
Dont talk pish!!!
Had each others backs my arse! So Scotland thanked England for voting Tory eh ?
Away and lie doon lol
Are these the same Tories you said would never win seats in Scotland?
The same Tories that are in Westminster, whilst the ex-Member for Gordon hawked himself around the Edinburgh Fringe?
What a deluded world you live in, totally divorced from reality.
So how would an independent Scotland post Brexit deal with their deficit and share of the national debt?
Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact "
Remind us all again which party lost 21 seats in Scotland in the last GE?
And why was that do you think? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So lets see how many think England subsidy Scotland ?
Then answer this if we in Scotland are such a drain on England we keep Scotland in this so called UK?
I suppose its all for Scotlands benefit we in Scotland are too poor eh ? Need Englands help cant ever do it ourselfs lmao
English NHS in meltdown but your telling me England wanna give their money away to hellp little old poor Scotland yeah fucking righting dont be daft !!!Yes you are a drain but we are kind if a bit daft so we help you,you could not manage without help from Westminster and you do not appreciate it your selfish"
Ah so its for Scotlands benefit eh we are too poor
Well thank you soo much for Tory cuts eh |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky
Dont talk pish!!!
Had each others backs my arse! So Scotland thanked England for voting Tory eh ?
Away and lie doon lol
Are these the same Tories you said would never win seats in Scotland?
The same Tories that are in Westminster, whilst the ex-Member for Gordon hawked himself around the Edinburgh Fringe?
What a deluded world you live in, totally divorced from reality.
So how would an independent Scotland post Brexit deal with their deficit and share of the national debt?
Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact
Remind us all again which party lost 21 seats in Scotland in the last GE?
And why was that do you think?"
Yes SNP lost 21 seats but still fucking managed a majority of Scottish seats in Westminster
*drops mic*
You ask why maybe just maybe like i said because Kezia was going about telling people to vote Tory
I bet all the way doin in England you didnt hear Kezia and the rest of the Scottish Labour branch mob cheering and chapping away because Salmond lost his seat to a Tory yes cheering for a fucking Tory
Red and blue Tories couldnt tell the fucking difference |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky
Dont talk pish!!!
Had each others backs my arse! So Scotland thanked England for voting Tory eh ?
Away and lie doon lol
Are these the same Tories you said would never win seats in Scotland?
The same Tories that are in Westminster, whilst the ex-Member for Gordon hawked himself around the Edinburgh Fringe?
What a deluded world you live in, totally divorced from reality.
So how would an independent Scotland post Brexit deal with their deficit and share of the national debt?
Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact
Remind us all again which party lost 21 seats in Scotland in the last GE?
And why was that do you think?
Yes SNP lost 21 seats but still fucking managed a majority of Scottish seats in Westminster
*drops mic*
You ask why maybe just maybe like i said because Kezia was going about telling people to vote Tory
I bet all the way doin in England you didnt hear Kezia and the rest of the Scottish Labour branch mob cheering and chapping away because Salmond lost his seat to a Tory yes cheering for a fucking Tory
Red and blue Tories couldnt tell the fucking difference "
Let's go back to the last Holyrood election in 2016.
Which party lost 6 seats and their majority?
And why was that do you think? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky
Dont talk pish!!!
Had each others backs my arse! So Scotland thanked England for voting Tory eh ?
Away and lie doon lol
Are these the same Tories you said would never win seats in Scotland?
The same Tories that are in Westminster, whilst the ex-Member for Gordon hawked himself around the Edinburgh Fringe?
What a deluded world you live in, totally divorced from reality.
So how would an independent Scotland post Brexit deal with their deficit and share of the national debt?
Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact
Remind us all again which party lost 21 seats in Scotland in the last GE?
And why was that do you think?
Yes SNP lost 21 seats but still fucking managed a majority of Scottish seats in Westminster
*drops mic*
You ask why maybe just maybe like i said because Kezia was going about telling people to vote Tory
I bet all the way doin in England you didnt hear Kezia and the rest of the Scottish Labour branch mob cheering and chapping away because Salmond lost his seat to a Tory yes cheering for a fucking Tory
Red and blue Tories couldnt tell the fucking difference
Let's go back to the last Holyrood election in 2016.
Which party lost 6 seats and their majority?
And why was that do you think? "
Your not even gonna deny that are you ? You skipped that like your ashamed no wonder eh Labour joining up with the Tories
Was Holyrood designed not to have majority governments yes or no ?
Also their is a pro indy majority in Holyrood correct ? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky
Dont talk pish!!!
Had each others backs my arse! So Scotland thanked England for voting Tory eh ?
Away and lie doon lol
Are these the same Tories you said would never win seats in Scotland?
The same Tories that are in Westminster, whilst the ex-Member for Gordon hawked himself around the Edinburgh Fringe?
What a deluded world you live in, totally divorced from reality.
So how would an independent Scotland post Brexit deal with their deficit and share of the national debt?
Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact
Remind us all again which party lost 21 seats in Scotland in the last GE?
And why was that do you think?
Yes SNP lost 21 seats but still fucking managed a majority of Scottish seats in Westminster
*drops mic*
You ask why maybe just maybe like i said because Kezia was going about telling people to vote Tory
I bet all the way doin in England you didnt hear Kezia and the rest of the Scottish Labour branch mob cheering and chapping away because Salmond lost his seat to a Tory yes cheering for a fucking Tory
Red and blue Tories couldnt tell the fucking difference
Let's go back to the last Holyrood election in 2016.
Which party lost 6 seats and their majority?
And why was that do you think?
Your not even gonna deny that are you ? You skipped that like your ashamed no wonder eh Labour joining up with the Tories
Was Holyrood designed not to have majority governments yes or no ?
Also their is a pro indy majority in Holyrood correct ?"
Surprise, surprise. You're not answering the tough questions again.
Why has SNP support slipped away. Why did high profile SNP MPs like Salmond and Robertson lose their seats at the last GE?
Surely you're not that stupid not to know? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"I think it is because they have a perverse pride in being part of a union that has fought against Fascism while the rest of the world was either defeated or stood back....That built a union where we all had each others backs. Where they took pride in the successes of the other countries...Did not revel in there defeats or rubbish there achievments...How quaint eh Kinky
Dont talk pish!!!
Had each others backs my arse! So Scotland thanked England for voting Tory eh ?
Away and lie doon lol
Are these the same Tories you said would never win seats in Scotland?
The same Tories that are in Westminster, whilst the ex-Member for Gordon hawked himself around the Edinburgh Fringe?
What a deluded world you live in, totally divorced from reality.
So how would an independent Scotland post Brexit deal with their deficit and share of the national debt?
Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact
Remind us all again which party lost 21 seats in Scotland in the last GE?
And why was that do you think?
Yes SNP lost 21 seats but still fucking managed a majority of Scottish seats in Westminster
*drops mic*
You ask why maybe just maybe like i said because Kezia was going about telling people to vote Tory
I bet all the way doin in England you didnt hear Kezia and the rest of the Scottish Labour branch mob cheering and chapping away because Salmond lost his seat to a Tory yes cheering for a fucking Tory
Red and blue Tories couldnt tell the fucking difference
Let's go back to the last Holyrood election in 2016.
Which party lost 6 seats and their majority?
And why was that do you think?
Your not even gonna deny that are you ? You skipped that like your ashamed no wonder eh Labour joining up with the Tories
Was Holyrood designed not to have majority governments yes or no ?
Also their is a pro indy majority in Holyrood correct ?
Surprise, surprise. You're not answering the tough questions again.
Why has SNP support slipped away. Why did high profile SNP MPs like Salmond and Robertson lose their seats at the last GE?
Surely you're not that stupid not to know?"
Do you read ?
Scottish Labour branch leader at that time was telling people to vote Tory are you denying that happened ? Or you denying Scottish Labour branch were cheering when Salmond lost his seat to a Tory ?
Was Holyrood designed not to have majority governments yes or no ?
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"Scottish Labour branch leader at that time was telling people to vote Tory are you denying that happened ?"
Yes. You will have quotes from a reasonable source.
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Now I have your attention.
Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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"Or you denying Scottish Labour branch were cheering when Salmond lost his seat to a Tory ?"
Not at all, most of Scotland cheered and many in other places too, it didn't matter what party they were in.
The demise of Salmond was Scotlands Portillo moment
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky?
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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These are well known yoon papers
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/807559/Kezia-Dugdale-Nicola-Sturgeon-SNP-Scottish-independence-poll-Ruth-Davidson/amp
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/lefty-lunacy-scottish-labour-tell-people-vote-tory/
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.scotsman.com/news/politics/general-election/dugdale-appeals-to-tory-and-lib-dem-voters-to-keep-out-snp-1-4448181/amp
There you go now damn well deny it eh |
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Your accusation was "Scottish Labour branch leader at that time was telling people to vote Tory are you denying that happened"
You go on to admit she said " There are a few differences in the Borders and the Highlands where the Tories might be better placed."
Your two statements don't support each other, do they?
Is she telling people to vote Tory? No!
Now I know you have some interesting interpretations of events, but that is ridiculous even by your standards.
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Oh and seeing you are here could you help me out with this one?
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
Open your fucking eyes lol
Kezia said the Tories are better placed that Labour to take SNP seats
Read between the lines lmao
Do you not see how fucking dumb that is
So for Kezia is more important to fet SNP out that get rid of the Tories
Look how that worked out for them
3rd in Scotland behind the Tories
And 3rd in Westminster
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Ah now we are reading between the lines, that wasn't what you said earlier, was it?
Heres your accusation "Scottish Labour branch leader at that time was telling people to vote Tory are you denying that happened"
Now it is YOU that is denying it happened by saying read between the lines!
You cannot quote her saying it, can you?
You have just made a liar out of yourself.
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You won't lie about this though, you don't have the balls to answer it!
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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What quote?
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Do you have a quote on this?
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
Fucking hell lol
Ticklybit what doy you think Kezia meant by this quote ?
" There are a few differences in the Borders and the Highlands where the Tories might be better placed" |
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What did she say, that's the important part.
You made an accusation about what she said.
Now you are squirming because she never said what you accused her of.
But you now say it's what she meant.
If you are going to make an accusation, you should have cast iron proof, you did not.
You just made yourself look a liar, and a fool by continuing with it.
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You could attempt to redeem yourself by answering this, give it a go.
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky?
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Kinky like St Nicola does not need to choose "Because independence transcends all ".......I feel that to sacrifice the economy and our defensive security so that we could be "free" would be a price worth paying,...To say otherwise would be talking us down as too poor and too stupid....which the majority of this fine country have proved they are not |
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I don't know what she meant, but I do know what she said and it wasn't what you said it was, was it?
This was your accusation "Scottish Labour branch leader at that time was telling people to vote Tory are you denying that happened ?"
At no point can you quote her verbatim saying "telling to vote Tory" those words were not said by her, true or false?
Be honest for once!
You made a false accusation, your "proof" even showed you up, as you could not produce a quote that supported your accusation.
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Now when are you going to address this, because it isn't going away!
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky?
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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Fucking hell lmao
She doesnt have to directly say it she is applying it how the fuck you cant see that lol
" There are a few differences in the Borders and the Highlands where the Tories might be better placed"
Its easy to work out she is saying the Tories are better placed in the highlands and borders than Labour are too lock out the SNP
As known as tactical voting duh!!!!!!!!
I wouldnt expect you to get it yoons stick together eh
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Now when are you going to address this, because it isn't going away!
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky?
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"She doesnt have to directly say it she is applying it how the fuck you cant see that lol"
If you are accusing someone of saying something, you better have proof that they said EXACTLY what you have accused them of saying.
NOT an interpretation FFS.
Can I accuse you of saying something that you never said?
Would you accept it?
Can I defend that false accusation by pleading that's what you meant?
Would you accept it.
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I would accept an answer to this.
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four time higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky?
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Is this you trying to deflect away from the subject?
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Well if you don't want to talk about that, you could always talk abot this.
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
Nope not deflecting nothing
You said " if you are accusing someone of saying something, you better have proof that they said "
So is that like when Kezia accussed Stu / Wings over Scotland of being anti gay |
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What exactly did she say, I want you to quote her EXACTLY.
I presume this is the statement that could lead to a possible court case.
What exactly did she say, verbatim.
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If you cant find it, I wonder if you could maybe find an answer to this.
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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Ok Kezia Dugdale - “Does the First Minister agree with me there is absolutely no place in society for homophobia like this"
She walking talking about this very quote from Stu "“Oliver Mundell is the sort of public speaker that makes you wish his dad had embraced his homosexuality sooner"
So she is accusing him of being anti gay so where is the anti gay statement in saying he should embrace his gay side sooner ? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Hey chunk. Why do you hero worship Stu?"
Who says i do ? Yes i read Wings is that a crime ?
I personally i am not A fan of Stu but he is good and exposing Yoon lies and they hate him for it they cant simply ignore him lol |
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By *i_garyMan
over a year ago
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"Hey chunk. Why do you hero worship Stu?
Who says i do ? Yes i read Wings is that a crime ?
I personally i am not A fan of Stu but he is good and exposing Yoon lies and they hate him for it they cant simply ignore him lol "
No chunk, he gives you a one sided view to keep the cash rolling in. Have you given him any of your ESA? |
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"So she is accusing him of being anti gay so where is the anti gay statement in saying he should embrace his gay side sooner ?"
You cant even make an accurate accusation when you have her statement in front of you, she did not say he was "anti gay" she asked “Does the First Minister agree with me there is absolutely no place in society for homophobia like this"
As you can see she did not use the words anti gay as you accuse her of, now I know you think its pedantic but you must be accurate when making allegations.
Let me make my perspective clear, to insidiously use an openly gay politician’s sexuality as a weapon with the intention of insulting his son, it is, to my interpretation, homophobia.
How would you describe it?
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If you cant describe that, you can have a stab at this.
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Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky?
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact "
i really need to pull up kinky for 2 reasons....
1) yes this is an blantantly anti-english as you can get.....
2) kinkys maths is .... shall we say.... not so great....
let me explain
the tories won 317 seats in total at the GE, of which 13 of the seats were flips from the SNP to the Conservatives....
the total number of seats is 650.... to get a majority they would have needed half of 650.... minus 1 (speaker) minus 4 (sinn fein) which is 323
the tories plus the DUP (10) makes 326.... which gives them a working majority of 7 (326 on the CON/DUP side... 319 for the rest!)
now.... if the SNP had not lost those 13 seats to the tories in scotland....the Conservatives would have been on 304!
if that was the case, even with the DUP that would have have put them 17 short of a working majority (cons/dup would have been on 314, the rest would have been on 331)
So... Scotland DID play a huge part in the the Tory win, you could argue of it wan't for saint nicola's crusade, if they had held them all, we would have a jeremy corbyn government!!!
so i am not going to say its Scotlands fault, because that would be harsh
I could also argue that if it wasn't for people like you kinky driving those people to vote Conservative with your constant nationalist moaning...... we wouldn't be where we are now
but... being the humble person i am , I'll just take the retraction of your post with the headline "KINKY CAN'T DO MATHS!"
or just a retraction and an admission that you were wrong (intentional or otherwise) will suffice.... |
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Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact
i really need to pull up kinky for 2 reasons....
1) yes this is an blantantly anti-english as you can get.....
2) kinkys maths is .... shall we say.... not so great....
let me explain
the tories won 317 seats in total at the GE, of which 13 of the seats were flips from the SNP to the Conservatives....
the total number of seats is 650.... to get a majority they would have needed half of 650.... minus 1 (speaker) minus 4 (sinn fein) which is 323
the tories plus the DUP (10) makes 326.... which gives them a working majority of 7 (326 on the CON/DUP side... 319 for the rest!)
now.... if the SNP had not lost those 13 seats to the tories in scotland....the Conservatives would have been on 304!
if that was the case, even with the DUP that would have have put them 17 short of a working majority (cons/dup would have been on 314, the rest would have been on 331)
So... Scotland DID play a huge part in the the Tory win, you could argue of it wan't for saint nicola's crusade, if they had held them all, we would have a jeremy corbyn government!!!
so i am not going to say its Scotlands fault, because that would be harsh
I could also argue that if it wasn't for people like you kinky driving those people to vote Conservative with your constant nationalist moaning...... we wouldn't be where we are now
but... being the humble person i am , I'll just take the retraction of your post with the headline "KINKY CAN'T DO MATHS!"
or just a retraction and an admission that you were wrong (intentional or otherwise) will suffice.... "
I fear that part of his psychosis is he no longer recognises where fiction ends and truth starts, this may be what's preventing him coming to terms with some of the rather mad stuff he posts.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
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Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact
i really need to pull up kinky for 2 reasons....
1) yes this is an blantantly anti-english as you can get.....
2) kinkys maths is .... shall we say.... not so great....
let me explain
the tories won 317 seats in total at the GE, of which 13 of the seats were flips from the SNP to the Conservatives....
the total number of seats is 650.... to get a majority they would have needed half of 650.... minus 1 (speaker) minus 4 (sinn fein) which is 323
the tories plus the DUP (10) makes 326.... which gives them a working majority of 7 (326 on the CON/DUP side... 319 for the rest!)
now.... if the SNP had not lost those 13 seats to the tories in scotland....the Conservatives would have been on 304!
if that was the case, even with the DUP that would have have put them 17 short of a working majority (cons/dup would have been on 314, the rest would have been on 331)
So... Scotland DID play a huge part in the the Tory win, you could argue of it wan't for saint nicola's crusade, if they had held them all, we would have a jeremy corbyn government!!!
so i am not going to say its Scotlands fault, because that would be harsh
I could also argue that if it wasn't for people like you kinky driving those people to vote Conservative with your constant nationalist moaning...... we wouldn't be where we are now
but... being the humble person i am , I'll just take the retraction of your post with the headline "KINKY CAN'T DO MATHS!"
or just a retraction and an admission that you were wrong (intentional or otherwise) will suffice....
I fear that part of his psychosis is he no longer recognises where fiction ends and truth starts, this may be what's preventing him coming to terms with some of the rather mad stuff he posts.
He really needs to get professional help."
Just some answers to some reasonable questions about Scottish Nationalism and Independence would be a start!
His way of answering such questions with another irrelevant question shows his ignorance and puts Scottish Nationalism in a very bad light. |
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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS
over a year ago
Burton-on-Trent |
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Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact
i really need to pull up kinky for 2 reasons....
1) yes this is an blantantly anti-english as you can get.....
2) kinkys maths is .... shall we say.... not so great....
let me explain
the tories won 317 seats in total at the GE, of which 13 of the seats were flips from the SNP to the Conservatives....
the total number of seats is 650.... to get a majority they would have needed half of 650.... minus 1 (speaker) minus 4 (sinn fein) which is 323
the tories plus the DUP (10) makes 326.... which gives them a working majority of 7 (326 on the CON/DUP side... 319 for the rest!)
now.... if the SNP had not lost those 13 seats to the tories in scotland....the Conservatives would have been on 304!
if that was the case, even with the DUP that would have have put them 17 short of a working majority (cons/dup would have been on 314, the rest would have been on 331)
So... Scotland DID play a huge part in the the Tory win, you could argue of it wan't for saint nicola's crusade, if they had held them all, we would have a jeremy corbyn government!!!
so i am not going to say its Scotlands fault, because that would be harsh
I could also argue that if it wasn't for people like you kinky driving those people to vote Conservative with your constant nationalist moaning...... we wouldn't be where we are now
but... being the humble person i am , I'll just take the retraction of your post with the headline "KINKY CAN'T DO MATHS!"
or just a retraction and an admission that you were wrong (intentional or otherwise) will suffice.... "
Oooft, that's a freezer burn right there. |
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over a year ago
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"my god you are a one trick pony....
but yes, as per head of the population, more money is spent on those who happen to be in scotland than those in england (and those in wales as well)
do i begrudge that..... not in the slightest ! there are historical and socio-economic reasons as to why that is the case....
some "could" say you hate the english more than anyone south of the border hates the scottish...... and i don't believe they would be far wrong from your ever consistant postings....
Totally agree. Bout time the scots got that massive chip off there shoulder."
Sorry it is not Scots it is a few deluded fools that reside in Scotland so not all Scots !!!
Do you notice kinky is mostly on his own with his posts and not many Scot posters back him up. |
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"Kinky like St Nicola does not need to choose "Because independence transcends all ".......I feel that to sacrifice the economy and our defensive security so that we could be "free" would be a price worth paying,...To say otherwise would be talking us down as too poor and too stupid....which the majority of this fine country have proved they are not "
For richer or poorer FREEDUM is what matters most !!!
Scrifice the people to a poorer future no problem !!
We have FREEDUM !! |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
The Council of Elrond |
"my god you are a one trick pony....
but yes, as per head of the population, more money is spent on those who happen to be in scotland than those in england (and those in wales as well)
do i begrudge that..... not in the slightest ! there are historical and socio-economic reasons as to why that is the case....
some "could" say you hate the english more than anyone south of the border hates the scottish...... and i don't believe they would be far wrong from your ever consistant postings....
Totally agree. Bout time the scots got that massive chip off there shoulder.
Sorry it is not Scots it is a few deluded fools that reside in Scotland so not all Scots !!!
Do you notice kinky is mostly on his own with his posts and not many Scot posters back him up."
Like i give a fuck lol
I dont need a wee gang of arse lickers backing me up hehe |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Kinky like St Nicola does not need to choose "Because independence transcends all ".......I feel that to sacrifice the economy and our defensive security so that we could be "free" would be a price worth paying,...To say otherwise would be talking us down as too poor and too stupid....which the majority of this fine country have proved they are not
For richer or poorer FREEDUM is what matters most !!!
Scrifice the people to a poorer future no problem !!
We have FREEDUM !!"
Lmao yeah and the UK union is what matters most if screwing Scotland over and making Scotland far worse off thanks to brexit
UK union at any damn cost think that over that you all fucking saying you will accept Scitland facing serious damage let that fucking sink in
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"Kinky like St Nicola does not need to choose "Because independence transcends all ".......I feel that to sacrifice the economy and our defensive security so that we could be "free" would be a price worth paying,...To say otherwise would be talking us down as too poor and too stupid....which the majority of this fine country have proved they are not
For richer or poorer FREEDUM is what matters most !!!
Scrifice the people to a poorer future no problem !!
We have FREEDUM !!
Lmao yeah and the UK union is what matters most if screwing Scotland over and making Scotland far worse off thanks to brexit
UK union at any damn cost think that over that you all fucking saying you will accept Scitland facing serious damage let that fucking sink in
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As you want my vote any chance
of telling me where all these embarresment of riches are gonna come from when Scotland is independent.
Remembeing Scotland will be out of the eu and broken the tie with the main trading partner of the UK. |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"Kinky like St Nicola does not need to choose "Because independence transcends all ".......I feel that to sacrifice the economy and our defensive security so that we could be "free" would be a price worth paying,...To say otherwise would be talking us down as too poor and too stupid....which the majority of this fine country have proved they are not
For richer or poorer FREEDUM is what matters most !!!
Scrifice the people to a poorer future no problem !!
We have FREEDUM !!
Lmao yeah and the UK union is what matters most if screwing Scotland over and making Scotland far worse off thanks to brexit
UK union at any damn cost think that over that you all fucking saying you will accept Scitland facing serious damage let that fucking sink in
As you want my vote any chance
of telling me where all these embarresment of riches are gonna come from when Scotland is independent.
Remembeing Scotland will be out of the eu and broken the tie with the main trading partner of the UK."
Are you saying Scotland is not a wealthy country ?
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Good question, it won't answer it though.
It can't accept the reality if the situation.
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I've been asking it this for a few days, no reply was the answer.
Leaving the EU via Brexit will have consequences, job losses for instance.
Scotland goes independent,the consequences of that is that it too leaves the EU in the hardest terms.
No deal,therefore the same if not worse job losses than Brexit.
By going independent and leaving the UK, there will be further job losses.
As Scotlands trade with the rest of the UK is four times higher than with the EU, it would be safe to assume that it would be even more damaging than that caused by leaving the EU itself.
The question which you have not attempted to answer is, which of those two options is the least damaging to Scotland?
Brexit in UK or independence out of both the UK and EU?
What would you chose kinky? |
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over a year ago
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Are those the same tories that havent a fucking clue what is devolved and not devolved ? Lmao
Are those the same Tories that Kezia told Scottish people to go vote for what a shocker eh that Labour and Tory working together
Oh aye and the Tory in Gordon did he put his name doon for a hard brexit fucking screwing the people he is suppose the represent who by a big majority in Gordon voted remain
But hey all 59Scottish seats dont matter still end up with a dickhead Tory government as thats the way England voted correct ?
Oh and thats not me being anti English thats stating fact
i really need to pull up kinky for 2 reasons....
1) yes this is an blantantly anti-english as you can get.....
2) kinkys maths is .... shall we say.... not so great....
let me explain
the tories won 317 seats in total at the GE, of which 13 of the seats were flips from the SNP to the Conservatives....
the total number of seats is 650.... to get a majority they would have needed half of 650.... minus 1 (speaker) minus 4 (sinn fein) which is 323
the tories plus the DUP (10) makes 326.... which gives them a working majority of 7 (326 on the CON/DUP side... 319 for the rest!)
now.... if the SNP had not lost those 13 seats to the tories in scotland....the Conservatives would have been on 304!
if that was the case, even with the DUP that would have have put them 17 short of a working majority (cons/dup would have been on 314, the rest would have been on 331)
So... Scotland DID play a huge part in the the Tory win, you could argue of it wan't for saint nicola's crusade, if they had held them all, we would have a jeremy corbyn government!!!
so i am not going to say its Scotlands fault, because that would be harsh
I could also argue that if it wasn't for people like you kinky driving those people to vote Conservative with your constant nationalist moaning...... we wouldn't be where we are now
but... being the humble person i am , I'll just take the retraction of your post with the headline "KINKY CAN'T DO MATHS!"
or just a retraction and an admission that you were wrong (intentional or otherwise) will suffice.... "
I think you will find many fairly hard core snp voters flipped to Tory, to push on brexit and exit from EU
I also believe these same voters will push for independence and turn back on Tories over next few years |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
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I think you will find many fairly hard core snp voters flipped to Tory, to push on brexit and exit from EU
I also believe these same voters will push for independence and turn back on Tories over next few years"
so in fact you are saying hardcore SNP voters both fucked their own partys stance over AND the UK over in the long term plan for independence!!!!!
cool!!! gotcha!!!!
but you might want to let kinky in on that then... i don't thing that "memo" has quite reached them.... |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
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I think you will find many fairly hard core snp voters flipped to Tory, to push on brexit and exit from EU
I also believe these same voters will push for independence and turn back on Tories over next few years
so in fact you are saying hardcore SNP voters both fucked their own partys stance over AND the UK over in the long term plan for independence!!!!!
cool!!! gotcha!!!!
but you might want to let kinky in on that then... i don't thing that "memo" has quite reached them...."
The SNP has lost support in both the last GE (2017) and Holyrood election (2016)
Maybe Scottish voters aren't so preoccupied with independence now, maybe they've accepted the indy referendum result. I keep asking Kinky but the silence is deafening. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
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I think you will find many fairly hard core snp voters flipped to Tory, to push on brexit and exit from EU
I also believe these same voters will push for independence and turn back on Tories over next few years
so in fact you are saying hardcore SNP voters both fucked their own partys stance over AND the UK over in the long term plan for independence!!!!!
cool!!! gotcha!!!!
but you might want to let kinky in on that then... i don't thing that "memo" has quite reached them....
The SNP has lost support in both the last GE (2017) and Holyrood election (2016)
Maybe Scottish voters aren't so preoccupied with independence now, maybe they've accepted the indy referendum result. I keep asking Kinky but the silence is deafening."
maybe kinky can only cope with one thing at a time... i'm still awaiting the acceptance of "kinky maths" and the retraction..... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
p.s..... what happens if one has to pick up the mic after a bad "mic drop".....
a faulty "mic drop" due to #kinkymath
do you just leave it dropped.... walk away and try to style it out like it never happened ... #kinkywalkback
do you pick it up eventually and try to own it.... #kinkyfessup
or the tried an trusted "try and pretend no one called you out".... the #kinkycalledout
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
Yup, Scottish citizens get more spent on them than English citizens, why does this upset kinky so much? It's a simple fact.
Why isn't the UK trying to get rid of Scotland? Because territorial integrity is the primary purpose of the nation state.
Islanders get more spent on them than mainland Scottish citizens, will kinky propose they are expelled from an independent Scotland? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I think you will find many fairly hard core snp voters flipped to Tory, to push on brexit and exit from EU
I also believe these same voters will push for independence and turn back on Tories over next few years
so in fact you are saying hardcore SNP voters both fucked their own partys stance over AND the UK over in the long term plan for independence!!!!!
cool!!! gotcha!!!!
but you might want to let kinky in on that then... i don't thing that "memo" has quite reached them...."
The ones I spoke to, when they said they had voted Tory, said "nicola sturgeon needed Taught a Lesson"
I guess that lesson was well recognised at the election.
Nothing to do with Independence, they were just pissed off with Nicola
I was shocked that they indeed voted Tory, the better thing would be simply not to vote, which would lower snp numbers, but instead they voted Tory simply to ensure Brexit
The ones I know, will still vote for Independence and indeed be part of the movement and March for Independence in May this year  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Anyone seen kinky? ??
Down on the Clyde counting frigates?
He'll have to take his shoes and socks off "
I was going to say would you trust kinky’s counting on anything... |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"Anyone seen kinky? ??
Down on the Clyde counting frigates?
He'll have to take his shoes and socks off
I was going to say would you trust kinky’s counting on anything... "
Could be down in the hated England stocking up on cheap booze, now that the price is set to rocket in Scotland? |
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By *inkyHnS OP Couple
over a year ago
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"What i am i not allowed a day or day to mourn and bury a family member now ?
Sorry to hear of your loss.Was that a rhetorical question..?"
Cheers dude been a hard day
Yeah it was lol |
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"What i am i not allowed a day or day to mourn and bury a family member now ?
Sorry to hear of your loss.Was that a rhetorical question..?
Cheers dude been a hard day
Yeah it was lol "
I'm burying an old friend tomorrow.Still raw..Life's for the living though so crack on with the thread... |
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"Anyone seen kinky? ??
Down on the Clyde counting frigates?
He'll have to take his shoes and socks off
I was going to say would you trust kinky’s counting on anything...
Could be down in the hated England stocking up on cheap booze, now that the price is set to rocket in Scotland?"
plenty cheap booze still up here thank you
although the shelves are a clearing |
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I don't drink spirits but family members do.
So far I have 20 litres of mixed spirits in storage .
Before everyone south of the border gets to comfortable it is being proposed to bring in minimum pricing in England as well. |
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