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"Since someone tried to close the last one I will open this one That's the Scottish government position right now correct respect leaving the EU but not the single market and customs union correct? The Scottish government have said they will respect leaving the EU but the red line is staying in the single market and customs union correct? Nicola is fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market and customs union correct? If UK government try and take the whole UK out of the single market and customs union then Scotland has a mandate for an independence referendum correct? An independent Scotland can be outside the EU and be in the single market and customs union correct? I doubt you will answer these though" I already answered you wee man go back and take a look | |||
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"Since someone tried to close the last one I will open this one That's the Scottish government position right now correct respect leaving the EU but not the single market and customs union correct? The Scottish government have said they will respect leaving the EU but the red line is staying in the single market and customs union correct? Nicola is fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market and customs union correct? If UK government try and take the whole UK out of the single market and customs union then Scotland has a mandate for an independence referendum correct? An independent Scotland can be outside the EU and be in the single market and customs union correct? I doubt you will answer these though I already answered you wee man go back and take a look " Yes I know but all those things I said above are correct ? If not point out what I am not correct about Nicola has been the only trying to come with a solution and if not she has a right to use the mandate she has | |||
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"Can we close this one too? "Fucking hell trying to gag me eh ? How about this if you that fucking bored my post ignore them What is this i am the only one now not allowed to post a thread and being singled out I dont try stop anyone posting their own threads thats just fucking sad | |||
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"Now lets try this Now first off i have never denied SNP members / voters some of them did vote to leave the EU So did anyone ever think that if Scotland did vote for independent the SNP could try to compromise with both side and adopt the Norway style of being out of the EU but have membership of the single market and customs union That would screw the UK if the UK are hell bend on taking the whole of the UK out of the single market and customs and being a hard brexit Put it this way Scotland has options not to suffer this hard brexit The UK government are shitting themselves that they could lose Scotlands money of tax and revenue "Slight problem with that theory, the flow of revenue is from the south to the north. | |||
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"Oh i forgot people on here think England subsidies Scotland and also think Scottish people pay no tax and make fuck all revenue eh Wee are far too fucking poor in Scotland Lmao " The Barnett formula. You had the figures for spend per head quotes to you on the other thread's. Try again. | |||
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"Oh i forgot people on here think England subsidies Scotland and also think Scottish people pay no tax and make fuck all revenue eh Wee are far too fucking poor in Scotland Lmao The Barnett formula. You had the figures for spend per head quotes to you on the other thread's. Try again." Going on the answer that I got regarding Barnett, Kinky doesn't understand it's principle or operation. | |||
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"OK So why is it people on here are soooo against all Scottish tax and revenue staying in Scotland ? Why is it you all want to see Scottish tax and revenue go to the UK treasury ? Lets see the answers to that lol " You can keep it all, you effectively already do, then it's topped up. | |||
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"Since someone tried to close the last one I will open this one That's the Scottish government position right now correct respect leaving the EU but not the single market and customs union correct? The Scottish government have said they will respect leaving the EU but the red line is staying in the single market and customs union correct? Nicola is fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market and customs union correct? If UK government try and take the whole UK out of the single market and customs union then Scotland has a mandate for an independence referendum correct? An independent Scotland can be outside the EU and be in the single market and customs union correct? I doubt you will answer these though" You only have the small problem of winning the refarendum !!!! | |||
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"OK So why is it people on here are soooo against all Scottish tax and revenue staying in Scotland ? Why is it you all want to see Scottish tax and revenue go to the UK treasury ? Lets see the answers to that lol You can keep it all, you effectively already do, then it's topped up." Ah right so your saying it does all tax and revenue in Scotland goes to the UK treasury and Scotland only gets some of want earned though both ? So its really giving us pocket money of the money raised in Scotland not all but some So out of interest why is it you dont wanna see ALL money raised in England through tax and revenue staying in England ? Is services in England in meltdown ? | |||
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"Since someone tried to close the last one I will open this one That's the Scottish government position right now correct respect leaving the EU but not the single market and customs union correct? The Scottish government have said they will respect leaving the EU but the red line is staying in the single market and customs union correct? Nicola is fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market and customs union correct? If UK government try and take the whole UK out of the single market and customs union then Scotland has a mandate for an independence referendum correct? An independent Scotland can be outside the EU and be in the single market and customs union correct? I doubt you will answer these though You only have the small problem of winning the refarendum !!!!" Lol and people and allow to change their minds correct ? So was all the lies from Better Together will be exposed Can you name a single thing delivered to Scotland that Better Together promised say in these Steel works ? NHS ? Ship yards ? EU ? HMRC jobs ? All of them were suppose to be safe in the UK correct ? So tell this was steel workers jobs at Tata Steel safe ? Or did that big bad SNP have to go find a buyer ? Was ship yards jobs safe in the UK ? Or did the big bad SNP have to go find a buyer ? And you in Greenock so do not dare lie that SNP saved the ship yards fron closing that was all suppose to be safe in the UK that was the shite Better Together were telling people correct ? | |||
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"Since someone tried to close the last one I will open this one That's the Scottish government position right now correct respect leaving the EU but not the single market and customs union correct? The Scottish government have said they will respect leaving the EU but the red line is staying in the single market and customs union correct? Nicola is fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market and customs union correct? If UK government try and take the whole UK out of the single market and customs union then Scotland has a mandate for an independence referendum correct? An independent Scotland can be outside the EU and be in the single market and customs union correct? I doubt you will answer these though You only have the small problem of winning the refarendum !!!! Lol and people and allow to change their minds correct ? So was all the lies from Better Together will be exposed Can you name a single thing delivered to Scotland that Better Together promised say in these Steel works ? NHS ? Ship yards ? EU ? HMRC jobs ? All of them were suppose to be safe in the UK correct ? So tell this was steel workers jobs at Tata Steel safe ? Or did that big bad SNP have to go find a buyer ? Was ship yards jobs safe in the UK ? Or did the big bad SNP have to go find a buyer ? And you in Greenock so do not dare lie that SNP saved the ship yards fron closing that was all suppose to be safe in the UK that was the shite Better Together were telling people correct ? " They did save the jobs at BAE systems building warships !! Ferguson's yard at Port Glasgow was struggling finantialy like many businesses. Is it not a function of government to minimise unemployment? ? So the snp did nothing unusual !!! Anyway you are always wanting more immigration! !! Ferguson's is full of immigrants! !!! | |||
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"Since someone tried to close the last one I will open this one That's the Scottish government position right now correct respect leaving the EU but not the single market and customs union correct? The Scottish government have said they will respect leaving the EU but the red line is staying in the single market and customs union correct? Nicola is fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market and customs union correct? If UK government try and take the whole UK out of the single market and customs union then Scotland has a mandate for an independence referendum correct? An independent Scotland can be outside the EU and be in the single market and customs union correct? I doubt you will answer these though You only have the small problem of winning the refarendum !!!! Lol and people and allow to change their minds correct ? So was all the lies from Better Together will be exposed Can you name a single thing delivered to Scotland that Better Together promised say in these Steel works ? NHS ? Ship yards ? EU ? HMRC jobs ? All of them were suppose to be safe in the UK correct ? So tell this was steel workers jobs at Tata Steel safe ? Or did that big bad SNP have to go find a buyer ? Was ship yards jobs safe in the UK ? Or did the big bad SNP have to go find a buyer ? And you in Greenock so do not dare lie that SNP saved the ship yards fron closing that was all suppose to be safe in the UK that was the shite Better Together were telling people correct ? They did save the jobs at BAE systems building warships !! Ferguson's yard at Port Glasgow was struggling finantialy like many businesses. Is it not a function of government to minimise unemployment? ? So the snp did nothing unusual !!! Anyway you are always wanting more immigration! !! Ferguson's is full of immigrants! !!!" So Greenoakmale i thought with a no vote to independence meant that steel works and ship yards were giing to be safe in the UK ? You blaming immigrants now ? See i told you that this WILL be exposed in a referendum alk the Better Together lies What next is Home Rule gonna be given out again or how about the promise of even more powers lmao might as well just give full independepence lol | |||
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"So Kinky, you are quite confident that an Independent Scotland can pay its way? No "handouts" from Westminster or Brussels. Just on the revenue you earn through taxation? " Please add in if Scotland joins the EU they won't have T hatchers rebate so will be a net contributor! !! If Scotland joins the Free Trade Area that will pay the EU and won't even have the 5 MEP as they don't get any representation at all. Funny enough kinky thinks being in the UK and having mps in Westminster is not democratic  | |||
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"Oh it gets better and better The most resent future of England survey says that 81% of leave voters in England would be happy see the Good Friday Agreement scrapped as it would be a price worth paying to get their brexit Also same survey big one for all you UK lovers lol 88% of leave voters would be more than happy to see the UK split wide apart just as a means to get brexit Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha There how much they care about the rest of the countries in the UK lmao Its a belter eh lol " You've been asked to explain that before. Unless they've asked ALL 14 plus million that voted Leave, then you can't make such an absurd remark. But again, another deflection from the question asked above. | |||
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"Oh it gets better and better The most resent future of England survey says that 81% of leave voters in England would be happy see the Good Friday Agreement scrapped as it would be a price worth paying to get their brexit Also same survey big one for all you UK lovers lol 88% of leave voters would be more than happy to see the UK split wide apart just as a means to get brexit Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha There how much they care about the rest of the countries in the UK lmao Its a belter eh lol " Aahhh I see we are back to putting our faith in polls again after they were slated as not telling the whole story !!! | |||
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"Oh it gets better and better The most resent future of England survey says that 81% of leave voters in England would be happy see the Good Friday Agreement scrapped as it would be a price worth paying to get their brexit Also same survey big one for all you UK lovers lol 88% of leave voters would be more than happy to see the UK split wide apart just as a means to get brexit Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha There how much they care about the rest of the countries in the UK lmao Its a belter eh lol Aahhh I see we are back to putting our faith in polls again after they were slated as not telling the whole story !!!" Its a sample of people yes and you know yoons and polls they love telling people that they are gospel So are these polls not to be believed now ? I told you and told polls dont tell the true figure But fuck aye i will rub it right in to those that wana put all their polls saying support for the Uk and believe them as gospel lmao So do any if you believe thing sample of people ? Hahahaha | |||
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"OK So why is it people on here are soooo against all Scottish tax and revenue staying in Scotland ? Why is it you all want to see Scottish tax and revenue go to the UK treasury ? Lets see the answers to that lol You can keep it all, you effectively already do, then it's topped up. Ah right so your saying it does all tax and revenue in Scotland goes to the UK treasury and Scotland only gets some of want earned though both ? So its really giving us pocket money of the money raised in Scotland not all but some So out of interest why is it you dont wanna see ALL money raised in England through tax and revenue staying in England ? Is services in England in meltdown ?" No I'm not saying that all. You are failing to actually read. This is why I am utterly contemptuous of you. All please try and type in English. | |||
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"Fuck me your really hanging onto this GERS stuff lmao Do you agree that GERS shows you the effect the UK is having on Scotland ? Money is not devolved that your UK treasury fucking up the money Now with an independent Scotland will all full control over all powers and levers and of course money so that damn well means no fucking money raised in Scotland through tax goes to the UK treasury We get rid of trident to saving money there. If Scotland is such a fucking drain on you why do you wanna keep Scotland in your UK ? If you truely believe England help Scotland keep a float why is it you dont wanna see that money stay in England and help local services and the NHS ? Seems in England 88% dont believe the UK is worth fighting for they want their country back lol ah little England But hey you will be most welcome in an independent Scotland though " He's lost it, again, he can't answer the questions posed then makes stuff up. Nurse??? Meds. Stat. | |||
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"Fuck me your really hanging onto this GERS stuff lmao Do you agree that GERS shows you the effect the UK is having on Scotland ? Money is not devolved that your UK treasury fucking up the money Now with an independent Scotland will all full control over all powers and levers and of course money so that damn well means no fucking money raised in Scotland through tax goes to the UK treasury We get rid of trident to saving money there. If Scotland is such a fucking drain on you why do you wanna keep Scotland in your UK ? If you truely believe England help Scotland keep a float why is it you dont wanna see that money stay in England and help local services and the NHS ? Seems in England 88% dont believe the UK is worth fighting for they want their country back lol ah little England But hey you will be most welcome in an independent Scotland though " An independent Scotland is going to need taxation money to pay the higher dole bill once you make all those Scottish workers unemployed! | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? " Because Norway has oil that is economically extractable. Scotland doesn't. Sorry, that's engineering for you. | |||
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"Oh it gets better and better The most resent future of England survey says that 81% of leave voters in England would be happy see the Good Friday Agreement scrapped as it would be a price worth paying to get their brexit Also same survey big one for all you UK lovers lol 88% of leave voters would be more than happy to see the UK split wide apart just as a means to get brexit Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha There how much they care about the rest of the countries in the UK lmao Its a belter eh lol Aahhh I see we are back to putting our faith in polls again after they were slated as not telling the whole story !!! Its a sample of people yes and you know yoons and polls they love telling people that they are gospel So are these polls not to be believed now ? I told you and told polls dont tell the true figure But fuck aye i will rub it right in to those that wana put all their polls saying support for the Uk and believe them as gospel lmao So do any if you believe thing sample of people ? Hahahaha " Aaahh so we ARE back to living polls !!! | |||
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"Fuck me your really hanging onto this GERS stuff lmao Do you agree that GERS shows you the effect the UK is having on Scotland ? Money is not devolved that your UK treasury fucking up the money Now with an independent Scotland will all full control over all powers and levers and of course money so that damn well means no fucking money raised in Scotland through tax goes to the UK treasury We get rid of trident to saving money there. If Scotland is such a fucking drain on you why do you wanna keep Scotland in your UK ? If you truely believe England help Scotland keep a float why is it you dont wanna see that money stay in England and help local services and the NHS ? Seems in England 88% dont believe the UK is worth fighting for they want their country back lol ah little England But hey you will be most welcome in an independent Scotland though " As it has been explained before trident is expensive over the long term the short term savings are not that much to fill the deficit. And an independent Scotland would not have all the levers as we don't have our own currency or reserves to set one up therefore relying on someone else's currency !!! | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? Because Norway has oil that is economically extractable. Scotland doesn't. Sorry, that's engineering for you." Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Also you also kept asking what will an independent Scotland do if it leaves the UK and is out of the EU well an independent Scotland could be in the single market and customs union correct ? That will blow a hole in that aww Scotland cant survive out if both the UK and EU lmao You not mad it me your mad cause Scotland has options and well saly England dont as the majority want to leave the EU and couldnt give a stuff about the single market and customs union and i willing to see the end of the Good Friday Agreement and the UK if it means getting brexit done Seems you lot are more interested in telling other countries in the UK what to do and say rather than fix England and the way its sadly going down a hard brexit road | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? Because Norway has oil that is economically extractable. Scotland doesn't. Sorry, that's engineering for you. Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Also you also kept asking what will an independent Scotland do if it leaves the UK and is out of the EU well an independent Scotland could be in the single market and customs union correct ? That will blow a hole in that aww Scotland cant survive out if both the UK and EU lmao You not mad it me your mad cause Scotland has options and well saly England dont as the majority want to leave the EU and couldnt give a stuff about the single market and customs union and i willing to see the end of the Good Friday Agreement and the UK if it means getting brexit done Seems you lot are more interested in telling other countries in the UK what to do and say rather than fix England and the way its sadly going down a hard brexit road " If you read the past posts the Scottish people CHOSE to remain part of the UK in 2014. The RUK are not keeping us captive !!!! | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? Because Norway has oil that is economically extractable. Scotland doesn't. Sorry, that's engineering for you. Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Also you also kept asking what will an independent Scotland do if it leaves the UK and is out of the EU well an independent Scotland could be in the single market and customs union correct ? That will blow a hole in that aww Scotland cant survive out if both the UK and EU lmao You not mad it me your mad cause Scotland has options and well saly England dont as the majority want to leave the EU and couldnt give a stuff about the single market and customs union and i willing to see the end of the Good Friday Agreement and the UK if it means getting brexit done Seems you lot are more interested in telling other countries in the UK what to do and say rather than fix England and the way its sadly going down a hard brexit road " Very little of that made sense. Try typing it again. It will help your argument. | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? Because Norway has oil that is economically extractable. Scotland doesn't. Sorry, that's engineering for you. Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Also you also kept asking what will an independent Scotland do if it leaves the UK and is out of the EU well an independent Scotland could be in the single market and customs union correct ? That will blow a hole in that aww Scotland cant survive out if both the UK and EU lmao You not mad it me your mad cause Scotland has options and well saly England dont as the majority want to leave the EU and couldnt give a stuff about the single market and customs union and i willing to see the end of the Good Friday Agreement and the UK if it means getting brexit done Seems you lot are more interested in telling other countries in the UK what to do and say rather than fix England and the way its sadly going down a hard brexit road If you read the past posts the Scottish people CHOSE to remain part of the UK in 2014. The RUK are not keeping us captive !!!!" Yes they did but things change and you cannot deny people that right to change their minds | |||
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"Ok lets try this First off tell me how did you vote in the EU referendum dont be shy here i will start i voted remain Then answer this is the UK single market bigger than the EU single market ? For Scotland, yes, the UK market is bigger than Scots trade with the EU. Next question? " | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? Because Norway has oil that is economically extractable. Scotland doesn't. Sorry, that's engineering for you. Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Also you also kept asking what will an independent Scotland do if it leaves the UK and is out of the EU well an independent Scotland could be in the single market and customs union correct ? That will blow a hole in that aww Scotland cant survive out if both the UK and EU lmao You not mad it me your mad cause Scotland has options and well saly England dont as the majority want to leave the EU and couldnt give a stuff about the single market and customs union and i willing to see the end of the Good Friday Agreement and the UK if it means getting brexit done Seems you lot are more interested in telling other countries in the UK what to do and say rather than fix England and the way its sadly going down a hard brexit road If you read the past posts the Scottish people CHOSE to remain part of the UK in 2014. The RUK are not keeping us captive !!!! Yes they did but things change and you cannot deny people that right to change their minds" I am happy to have the vote tomorrow but saint Nicola has put it back as brexit is not the big vote winner she thought it was gonna be. | |||
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"No evidence that they have changed their minds as far as independence is concerned. If there is, I,d like to see it. " Lmao and how to you get the evidence ? | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? Because Norway has oil that is economically extractable. Scotland doesn't. Sorry, that's engineering for you. Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Also you also kept asking what will an independent Scotland do if it leaves the UK and is out of the EU well an independent Scotland could be in the single market and customs union correct ? That will blow a hole in that aww Scotland cant survive out if both the UK and EU lmao You not mad it me your mad cause Scotland has options and well saly England dont as the majority want to leave the EU and couldnt give a stuff about the single market and customs union and i willing to see the end of the Good Friday Agreement and the UK if it means getting brexit done Seems you lot are more interested in telling other countries in the UK what to do and say rather than fix England and the way its sadly going down a hard brexit road If you read the past posts the Scottish people CHOSE to remain part of the UK in 2014. The RUK are not keeping us captive !!!! Yes they did but things change and you cannot deny people that right to change their minds I am happy to have the vote tomorrow but saint Nicola has put it back as brexit is not the big vote winner she thought it was gonna be." Has Nicola not been clear from the very start ? I will wait on you lying | |||
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"Ok lets try this First off tell me how did you vote in the EU referendum dont be shy here i will start i voted remain Then answer this is the UK single market bigger than the EU single market ? " I voted remain. Most of Scotland's trade is with the UK. Now you are gonna ask which has the biggest population therefore the biggest market. The Scottish Executive's own figures have shown that Scotland's trade with the EU has almost remains static. Scotland's trade with America has grown as a percentage higher than our trade with the EU. | |||
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"Ok lets try this First off tell me how did you vote in the EU referendum dont be shy here i will start i voted remain Then answer this is the UK single market bigger than the EU single market ? I voted remain. Most of Scotland's trade is with the UK. Now you are gonna ask which has the biggest population therefore the biggest market. The Scottish Executive's own figures have shown that Scotland's trade with the EU has almost remains static. Scotland's trade with America has grown as a percentage higher than our trade with the EU." Ok at least tou had the baws to say which way you voted So if you voted remain its not really a big deal for you to remain in the EU if your gonna claim the UK has the bigger market correct You would choose the UK market over the EU ? | |||
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"Btw way Greenoakmale why is it yesterday you thought it was important enough to call me out for using the word " yoon" and claim its a insult But see when ForFoxSake says "Dinky" to me to you think thats insulting ? Or dont you wanna upset the wee gang ? Lets see if you will call that shit out or ignore it I am only asking as you felt the need to say calling people a yoon is insulting see then lets see if you have the baws to call it out on the other side or you gonna look the other way ?" You need to take it up with them. I did post before that they were not being helpful in there lack of debate. | |||
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"Ok lets try this First off tell me how did you vote in the EU referendum dont be shy here i will start i voted remain Then answer this is the UK single market bigger than the EU single market ? I voted remain. Most of Scotland's trade is with the UK. Now you are gonna ask which has the biggest population therefore the biggest market. The Scottish Executive's own figures have shown that Scotland's trade with the EU has almost remains static. Scotland's trade with America has grown as a percentage higher than our trade with the EU. Ok at least tou had the baws to say which way you voted So if you voted remain its not really a big deal for you to remain in the EU if your gonna claim the UK has the bigger market correct You would choose the UK market over the EU ?" Given the choice at the present moment I think remaining in the UK takes president of remaining in the EU. I am not gonna deny that might change. | |||
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"Btw way Greenoakmale why is it yesterday you thought it was important enough to call me out for using the word " yoon" and claim its a insult But see when ForFoxSake says "Dinky" to me to you think thats insulting ? Or dont you wanna upset the wee gang ? Lets see if you will call that shit out or ignore it I am only asking as you felt the need to say calling people a yoon is insulting see then lets see if you have the baws to call it out on the other side or you gonna look the other way ? You need to take it up with them. I did post before that they were not being helpful in there lack of debate." Ah right so you wont ever post again about me using yoon then ? Good good | |||
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"Ok lets try this First off tell me how did you vote in the EU referendum dont be shy here i will start i voted remain Then answer this is the UK single market bigger than the EU single market ? I voted remain. Most of Scotland's trade is with the UK. Now you are gonna ask which has the biggest population therefore the biggest market. The Scottish Executive's own figures have shown that Scotland's trade with the EU has almost remains static. Scotland's trade with America has grown as a percentage higher than our trade with the EU. Ok at least tou had the baws to say which way you voted So if you voted remain its not really a big deal for you to remain in the EU if your gonna claim the UK has the bigger market correct You would choose the UK market over the EU ? Given the choice at the present moment I think remaining in the UK takes president of remaining in the EU. I am not gonna deny that might change." Ah right so you dont really care about your remain vote then ? Tell me do you care about Scotland majority vote to remain in the EU? | |||
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"Btw way Greenoakmale why is it yesterday you thought it was important enough to call me out for using the word " yoon" and claim its a insult But see when ForFoxSake says "Dinky" to me to you think thats insulting ? Or dont you wanna upset the wee gang ? Lets see if you will call that shit out or ignore it I am only asking as you felt the need to say calling people a yoon is insulting see then lets see if you have the baws to call it out on the other side or you gonna look the other way ? Is Dinky racist? Is it branding a group of people with negative connotations? Go on Dinky, I'm looking forward to this one "Ok prove it then what was a racist about eh ? Lets see if you have the baws to say | |||
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"Btw way Greenoakmale why is it yesterday you thought it was important enough to call me out for using the word " yoon" and claim its a insult But see when ForFoxSake says "Dinky" to me to you think thats insulting ? Or dont you wanna upset the wee gang ? Lets see if you will call that shit out or ignore it I am only asking as you felt the need to say calling people a yoon is insulting see then lets see if you have the baws to call it out on the other side or you gonna look the other way ? You need to take it up with them. I did post before that they were not being helpful in there lack of debate. Ah right so you wont ever post again about me using yoon then ? Good good " I too would like to apologize for hurting Kinkys feelings, I had no idea he was such a sensitive little thing  | |||
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"Why do you mislead? Scotland did not vote to remain in the EU, the people of Scotland voted whether it wanted the UK to stay or leave. Scotland could not vote to remain or leave a member of an organisation that it is not a member of. Your question is based on a false premise therefore it is worth the contempt it deserves. " Lmao bury the truth Yes Scotland voted to remain in the UK And Scotland voted in a majority of 62%-38% to remain correct ? You just want to bury it but cant hid the fact thats the way Scotland voted | |||
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"Btw way Greenoakmale why is it yesterday you thought it was important enough to call me out for using the word " yoon" and claim its a insult But see when ForFoxSake says "Dinky" to me to you think thats insulting ? Or dont you wanna upset the wee gang ? Lets see if you will call that shit out or ignore it I am only asking as you felt the need to say calling people a yoon is insulting see then lets see if you have the baws to call it out on the other side or you gonna look the other way ? You need to take it up with them. I did post before that they were not being helpful in there lack of debate. Ah right so you wont ever post again about me using yoon then ? Good good I too would like to apologize for hurting Kinkys feelings, I had no idea he was such a sensitive little thing "Still waiting on you on backing up your racist claim ? | |||
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"Yoon I'm guessing is meant to be an insult.A mix of unionist and loon as in lunatic.Created by Pete wishart of the snp according to the internet.Who also created the term nawbag.Seems something of a word smith with insults.Correct me if I'm wrong." I wouldn't credit Wishart with anything original. ?? | |||
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"Yes Scotland voted, but what did it vote for? What was the question on the ballot paper? Let me remind you that Scotland wasn't on it. "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?" That was the question, stop making shit up. " You really wanna go there with whats on ballot papers So why was it ok to offer extra powers to Scotland in 2014? That was not on the ballot paper in 2014 correct ? | |||
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"Just wish Sturgeon would get on with the job she is supposed to be doing (running the country) and not ruining the country !!! Scotland voted to stay in UK - The UK voted for Brexit Endof !!! " Ok lets see now if you think the SNP are failing Scotland who would do better ? And dont say anyone grow a pair and name one if you dare hehehe | |||
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"Btw way Greenoakmale why is it yesterday you thought it was important enough to call me out for using the word " yoon" and claim its a insult But see when ForFoxSake says "Dinky" to me to you think thats insulting ? Or dont you wanna upset the wee gang ? Lets see if you will call that shit out or ignore it I am only asking as you felt the need to say calling people a yoon is insulting see then lets see if you have the baws to call it out on the other side or you gonna look the other way ? You need to take it up with them. I did post before that they were not being helpful in there lack of debate. Ah right so you wont ever post again about me using yoon then ? Good good I too would like to apologize for hurting Kinkys feelings, I had no idea he was such a sensitive little thing
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"I,ll tell you what was on the ballot paper in 2014, it was, "Should Scotland be an independent country?" Remind me, what did the people of Scotland decide? Yes or no? A clear result. There was no ambiguity. No wacky interpretation. No assuming that the vote meant anything else other than what was stated. It was a no, nothing more and nothing less. " Lmao You gone all shy now Did the 2014 Scottish independence referendum ballot paper have extra powers on it ? Why is that ok to accept ? See told you dont usevthe pish about ballot papers as you cannot answer that as you know full well extra powers was nit in the ballot back and brike purdah rules But no i dont expect you to want to bring thst up lmao | |||
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"Ok lets see now if you think the SNP are failing Scotland who would do better ? And dont say anyone grow a pair and name one if you dare hehehe " | |||
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"Btw way Greenoakmale why is it yesterday you thought it was important enough to call me out for using the word " yoon" and claim its a insult But see when ForFoxSake says "Dinky" to me to you think thats insulting ? Or dont you wanna upset the wee gang ? Lets see if you will call that shit out or ignore it I am only asking as you felt the need to say calling people a yoon is insulting see then lets see if you have the baws to call it out on the other side or you gonna look the other way ? You need to take it up with them. I did post before that they were not being helpful in there lack of debate. Ah right so you wont ever post again about me using yoon then ? Good good I too would like to apologize for hurting Kinkys feelings, I had no idea he was such a sensitive little thing
Still waiting on you on backing up your racist claim ?
Perhaps the way in which you talk about the English, the English parliament, and think anyone south of the t may give you a clue.."Examples ? Back your claim up What did i say that tou believe was racist ? Come on if your good enough to call somonevout on it be brave enough to actually quote me Or retract | |||
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"Boris Johnson - by that I mean scrap the carbunkle in Leith and return powers back to Westminster and get Boris in charge ! Tin helmets are on
Ok lets see now if you think the SNP are failing Scotland who would do better ?
And dont say anyone grow a pair and name one if you dare hehehe "Lmaooo So you dont believe the branch offices of Labour , Tory ,Lib Dem can win elections in Scotland ? Were yiu saying Holyrood should be scrapped before 2007 ? | |||
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"I've shown you what it had. Also it never had "it's oor pound too" on it. It never had a currency union on it. It never had oil would "remain constant at $110 per barrel." It never had an independent Scotland would have seamless EU membership. It never had a lot of things, that was the point of the campaigns. The campaigns of both sides laid out their vision of what the vote would mean for either option. What point, if any, are you trying to make here? " Your point it damn well moot You are trying to use the "Scotland was not on the EU referendum ballot paper" But cant see the big hole in that lol Well i can say extra powers was not on the Scottish independence referendum ballot paper So why is that ok to offer extra powers when it was not on the ballot paper ? I told you dont try and use that ballot paper pish as it makes you look silly | |||
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A clear question was asked on both and a clear answer was given.
Independence for Scotland was rejected.
And the UK will leave the EU.
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"Are you insane? What was on the ballot paper was voted on.
A clear question was asked on both and a clear answer was given.
Independence for Scotland was rejected.
And the UK will leave the EU.
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? " Do you know what the Scottish Goverment tax revenue was on oil and gas production, according to the latest figures? | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? Do you know what the Scottish Goverment tax revenue was on oil and gas production, according to the latest figures?" Oil reversed matter lol Have you saw the map of how big Scottish waters is ? Did you know BP have found new discoveries If Scotland votes for independence wave goodbye to that lol | |||
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"Btw way Greenoakmale why is it yesterday you thought it was important enough to call me out for using the word " yoon" and claim its a insult But see when ForFoxSake says "Dinky" to me to you think thats insulting ? Or dont you wanna upset the wee gang ? Lets see if you will call that shit out or ignore it I am only asking as you felt the need to say calling people a yoon is insulting see then lets see if you have the baws to call it out on the other side or you gonna look the other way ? You need to take it up with them. I did post before that they were not being helpful in there lack of debate. Ah right so you wont ever post again about me using yoon then ? Good good I too would like to apologize for hurting Kinkys feelings, I had no idea he was such a sensitive little thing
Still waiting on you on backing up your racist claim ?
Perhaps the way in which you talk about the English, the English parliament, and think anyone south of the t may give you a clue..
Examples ? Back your claim up
What did i say that tou believe was racist ? Come on if your good enough to call somonevout on it be brave enough to actually quote me
Or retract "All Tories are scum - that's one of years Westmonster - that's another one Yoons - clearly hate speach. You use racist language and act in a racist manner. So, what does that make you? Sadly misunderstood? Wee man - again derogatory and aimed at the English I think not. | |||
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"Btw way Greenoakmale why is it yesterday you thought it was important enough to call me out for using the word " yoon" and claim its a insult But see when ForFoxSake says "Dinky" to me to you think thats insulting ? Or dont you wanna upset the wee gang ? Lets see if you will call that shit out or ignore it I am only asking as you felt the need to say calling people a yoon is insulting see then lets see if you have the baws to call it out on the other side or you gonna look the other way ? You need to take it up with them. I did post before that they were not being helpful in there lack of debate. Ah right so you wont ever post again about me using yoon then ? Good good I too would like to apologize for hurting Kinkys feelings, I had no idea he was such a sensitive little thing
Still waiting on you on backing up your racist claim ?
Perhaps the way in which you talk about the English, the English parliament, and think anyone south of the t may give you a clue..
Examples ? Back your claim up
What did i say that tou believe was racist ? Come on if your good enough to call somonevout on it be brave enough to actually quote me
Or retract
All Tories are scum - that's one of years
Westmonster - that's another one
Yoons - clearly hate speach.
You use racist language and act in a racist manner.
So, what does that make you?
Sadly misunderstood?
Wee man - again derogatory and aimed at the English
I think not."Lmao Yes Tories are scumbags thats not racist Calling Westminster a shithole not racist What racist language and acting point it out again back you claims up You do nothing good for real racism with that shite Now lets see the double standards shall we lol You thought it was ok to call me what "Brown kilt" is that not hate speech now ? And i suppose you when say "dinky" thats not in a derogatory way ? You really dont have a clue eh lol Your welcome Raging at me pointing it out the double standards | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? Do you know what the Scottish Goverment tax revenue was on oil and gas production, according to the latest figures? Oil reversed matter lol Have you saw the map of how big Scottish waters is ? Did you know BP have found new discoveries If Scotland votes for independence wave goodbye to that lol " As you clearly don't know, I'll tell you. £208 million out of a total tax take of £58bn. Its not the black gold of the 1970s and 80s! | |||
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"Again if Scotland is such a drain on England why keep us ? Btw i love how what i said at the very start is been brushed aside as if its nothing You all asked how would Scotland deal with being out of the UK and EU Well Scotland could choose a Norway style deal to be outside the EU and remain in the single market and customs union And considering Norway a country that has 5 million people and has as much oil as we do and they are trillions i profit why is it you believe an independent Scotland of 5 million people cant do the very same ? Do you know what the Scottish Goverment tax revenue was on oil and gas production, according to the latest figures? Oil reversed matter lol Have you saw the map of how big Scottish waters is ? Did you know BP have found new discoveries If Scotland votes for independence wave goodbye to that lol " You do know those cannot be extracted economically, you do know that don't you? Engineerings a bitch ain't she ! | |||
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" Lmaooo So you dont believe the branch offices of Labour , Tory ,Lib Dem can win elections in Scotland ? Were yiu saying Holyrood should be scrapped before 2007 ?" | |||
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"Scots represent 8.4 per cent of the UK's total population, but they generate 9.4 per cent of its annual revenues in tax -- equivalent to £1,000 extra per person. The remaining £624 is easily accounted for by decades of UK government under-spending in Scotland on defence and on other items which are not routinely broken down by region, such as foreign office services. Second, there's the claim that Scotland's "bloated" welfare state could not be sustained outside the Union. This is nonsense. Including its per capita share of revenues from North Sea oil and gas production, Scotland's public expenditure probably does not exceed the OECD average and is almost certainly lower than that of the Scandinavian social democracies. The fact that the Treasury cynically refuses to class those revenues as part of Scotland's overall annual economic output inflates the level of public sector expenditure as a proportion of GDP relative to that of the private sector. " Your figures are flawed. Including North sea revenue, Scotland contributed £10722 per person to UK revenue. Thats £312 less than the UK average. Expenditure per person was £13175 per person in Scotland, £1437 more than the UK average. | |||
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"Ticklybit You just said this "what was on the ballot paper was voted on" But the single market and customs union was never on the ballot paper You also said this about the 2014 referendum hehehe "Also it never had "it's oor pound too" on it. It never had a currency union on it. It never had oil would "remain constant at $110 per barrel" Away and lay doon yoons be crazy lol " Think the price of oil came from Alex Salmond in the live debate. He was either ignorant or lied, your call. | |||
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"Ticklybit You just said this "what was on the ballot paper was voted on" But the single market and customs union was never on the ballot paper You also said this about the 2014 referendum hehehe "Also it never had "it's oor pound too" on it. It never had a currency union on it. It never had oil would "remain constant at $110 per barrel" Away and lay doon yoons be crazy lol Think the price of oil came from Alex Salmond in the live debate. He was either ignorant or lied, your call." It came in correspondence to Danny Alexander at the treasury. He also used it in debates too. | |||
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"Ticklybit You just said this "what was on the ballot paper was voted on" But the single market and customs union was never on the ballot paper You also said this about the 2014 referendum hehehe "Also it never had "it's oor pound too" on it. It never had a currency union on it. It never had oil would "remain constant at $110 per barrel" Away and lay doon yoons be crazy lol Think the price of oil came from Alex Salmond in the live debate. He was either ignorant or lied, your call. It came in correspondence to Danny Alexander at the treasury. He also used it in debates too. " I await the Dinkmeisters response... The betting is he'll change topic | |||
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"Ticklybit You just said this "what was on the ballot paper was voted on" But the single market and customs union was never on the ballot paper You also said this about the 2014 referendum hehehe "Also it never had "it's oor pound too" on it. It never had a currency union on it. It never had oil would "remain constant at $110 per barrel" Away and lay doon yoons be crazy lol Think the price of oil came from Alex Salmond in the live debate. He was either ignorant or lied, your call. It came in correspondence to Danny Alexander at the treasury. He also used it in debates too. I await the Dinkmeisters response... The betting is he'll change topic " I an still waiting you finding this racist language I dont think you know what racism is lol | |||
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"Ticklybit You just said this "what was on the ballot paper was voted on" But the single market and customs union was never on the ballot paper You also said this about the 2014 referendum hehehe "Also it never had "it's oor pound too" on it. It never had a currency union on it. It never had oil would "remain constant at $110 per barrel" Away and lay doon yoons be crazy lol Think the price of oil came from Alex Salmond in the live debate. He was either ignorant or lied, your call. It came in correspondence to Danny Alexander at the treasury. He also used it in debates too. I await the Dinkmeisters response... The betting is he'll change topic I an still waiting you finding this racist language I dont think you know what racism is lol " Go read my post. In the meantime carry on trying to change the subject.. | |||
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"ForFoxSake Calling the Tories scumbags is not racist Calling Westminster a shit hole is not racist Here is your double standards though Is " brown kilt" hate speech? Is calling me "dinky" a derogatory way ? " All dog whistle racism And calling you Dinky is derogatory. That's why I call you it. I'll stop when you stay on topic ( the one you start with) and when you answer questions and acknowledge you are wrong. Until then you'll be my lovable little Dinky X | |||
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"Oh the wee gang going again " Double victim card. Brave move. Foolish, but brave. | |||
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"Folks - this is getting nasty - can we just close this thread and move on !" Be happy to move on So I was asked what would Scotland do if they were out the UK and EU Simple be in the single market and customs union as you can be out the EU and in the single market and customs union | |||
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"Folks - this is getting nasty - can we just close this thread and move on ! Be happy to move on So I was asked what would Scotland do if they were out the UK and EU Simple be in the single market and customs union as you can be out the EU and in the single market and customs union" How do you cover the interim 3? Years? | |||
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"As part of the UK or as an independent country? " Well that depends on the UK government if they are willing to respect Scotland If that then yeah nothing stopping an independent Scotland being in the single market and customs union | |||
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"As part of the UK or as an independent country? Well that depends on the UK government if they are willing to respect Scotland If that then yeah nothing stopping an independent Scotland being in the single market and customs union" How will this be funded? | |||
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"I will point out the SNP are fighting for Scotland and the UK to be in the single market and customs union Anyone like to deny that? But if Scotland votes for independence and they are out the EU they could be in the single market and customs union Anyway wanna deny that ?" Please advise how this will be funded? Last figure I saw was 400m per year. | |||
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"I will point out the SNP are fighting for Scotland and the UK to be in the single market and customs union Anyone like to deny that? But if Scotland votes for independence and they are out the EU they could be in the single market and customs union Anyway wanna deny that ? Please advise how this will be funded? Last figure I saw was 400m per year." Excuse me you didn't answer my questions | |||
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"I will point out the SNP are fighting for Scotland and the UK to be in the single market and customs union Anyone like to deny that? But if Scotland votes for independence and they are out the EU they could be in the single market and customs union Anyway wanna deny that ? Please advise how this will be funded? Last figure I saw was 400m per year. Excuse me you didn't answer my questions" You can't be in the single market unless you can fund access. So you need to demonstrate you can fund it before you can join it, so that takes precedence. | |||
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"I will point out the SNP are fighting for Scotland and the UK to be in the single market and customs union Anyone like to deny that? But if Scotland votes for independence and they are out the EU they could be in the single market and customs union Anyway wanna deny that ? Please advise how this will be funded? Last figure I saw was 400m per year. Excuse me you didn't answer my questions You can't be in the single market unless you can fund access. So you need to demonstrate you can fund it before you can join it, so that takes precedence. " Nope thats not answering my questions tey again | |||
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"I will point out the SNP are fighting for Scotland and the UK to be in the single market and customs union Anyone like to deny that? But if Scotland votes for independence and they are out the EU they could be in the single market and customs union Anyway wanna deny that ? Please advise how this will be funded? Last figure I saw was 400m per year. Excuse me you didn't answer my questions You can't be in the single market unless you can fund access. So you need to demonstrate you can fund it before you can join it, so that takes precedence. Nope thats not answering my questions tey again " As explained above funding needs to be addressed before access can happen, so being logical, you need to address the funding issue first. | |||
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"ForFoxSake Is the SNP fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market ? Can an independent Scotland be outside the EU and in the single market ? You answer them and then we shall move on ok " Is the SNP fighting.. It's doing whatever it can to frustrate the government, part of that strategy is to try and get involved in activities beyond its remit. I think they are doing this for the sake of the SNP not Scotland. Can an independent Scotland.. As the Scottish people comprehensively rejected independence this is a non question. Those are my answers. So, please explain the funding issue as per my earlier questions. | |||
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"You are giving snp supporters a bad name with all the crap you go on and on and on about just accept we are leaving the EU and move on " Nae thanks do you just give up on what you believe in ? Do you expect the party you vote for just to give up hope of winning elections ? Lol And i think you will find SNP are pro EU lmao | |||
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"ForFoxSake Is the SNP fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market ? Can an independent Scotland be outside the EU and in the single market ? You answer them and then we shall move on ok Is the SNP fighting.. It's doing whatever it can to frustrate the government, part of that strategy is to try and get involved in activities beyond its remit. I think they are doing this for the sake of the SNP not Scotland. Can an independent Scotland.. As the Scottish people comprehensively rejected independence this is a non question. Those are my answers. So, please explain the funding issue as per my earlier questions." Try just answering the questions ta | |||
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"I will point out the SNP are fighting for Scotland and the UK to be in the single market and customs union Anyone like to deny that? But if Scotland votes for independence and they are out the EU they could be in the single market and customs union Anyway wanna deny that ? Please advise how this will be funded? Last figure I saw was 400m per year." I already answered this earlier so why keep harping on about it | |||
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"ForFoxSake Is the SNP fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market ? Can an independent Scotland be outside the EU and in the single market ? You answer them and then we shall move on ok Is the SNP fighting.. It's doing whatever it can to frustrate the government, part of that strategy is to try and get involved in activities beyond its remit. I think they are doing this for the sake of the SNP not Scotland. Can an independent Scotland.. As the Scottish people comprehensively rejected independence this is a non question. Those are my answers. So, please explain the funding issue as per my earlier questions. Try just answering the questions ta " I did, they weren't the answers you wanted, but that's moot, so the funding issue? | |||
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"ForFoxSake Is the SNP fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market ? Can an independent Scotland be outside the EU and in the single market ? You answer them and then we shall move on ok Is the SNP fighting.. It's doing whatever it can to frustrate the government, part of that strategy is to try and get involved in activities beyond its remit. I think they are doing this for the sake of the SNP not Scotland. Can an independent Scotland.. As the Scottish people comprehensively rejected independence this is a non question. Those are my answers. So, please explain the funding issue as per my earlier questions. Try just answering the questions ta I did, they weren't the answers you wanted, but that's moot, so the funding issue?" No didnt you went off in your own wee world and twisted so no thanks i will actually wait to get your answer to my actually questions You can say yes or no if it helps | |||
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"ForFoxSake Is the SNP fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market ? Can an independent Scotland be outside the EU and in the single market ? You answer them and then we shall move on ok Is the SNP fighting.. It's doing whatever it can to frustrate the government, part of that strategy is to try and get involved in activities beyond its remit. I think they are doing this for the sake of the SNP not Scotland. Can an independent Scotland.. As the Scottish people comprehensively rejected independence this is a non question. Those are my answers. So, please explain the funding issue as per my earlier questions. Try just answering the questions ta I did, they weren't the answers you wanted, but that's moot, so the funding issue? No didnt you went off in your own wee world and twisted so no thanks i will actually wait to get your answer to my actually questions You can say yes or no if it helps " You had your answers. You didn't like them, so you refuse to answer. Life's not simple, so yes/no answers are not always appropriate. | |||
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"I don't agree with everything that the snp stand for, yes I want independence but I don't see the point of it if we are still in the EU, I want my country to decide what laws and rules we follow not someone else be it London or brussels" Right this is good finally a pro indy supporter that has a different thought So what powers wont we be able to do in an independent Scotland in the EU ? Did you know right now the UK government have power over immigration as its reversed to them but they wont do nothing about it they want to con people into thinking its the EU fault So what powers will the EU be ruling over an independent Scotland ? | |||
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"Where are you getting your figures from? " That's from the latest GERS report. They are in the revenue section | |||
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"ForFoxSake Is the SNP fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market ? Can an independent Scotland be outside the EU and in the single market ? You answer them and then we shall move on ok Is the SNP fighting.. It's doing whatever it can to frustrate the government, part of that strategy is to try and get involved in activities beyond its remit. I think they are doing this for the sake of the SNP not Scotland. Can an independent Scotland.. As the Scottish people comprehensively rejected independence this is a non question. Those are my answers. So, please explain the funding issue as per my earlier questions. Try just answering the questions ta I did, they weren't the answers you wanted, but that's moot, so the funding issue? No didnt you went off in your own wee world and twisted so no thanks i will actually wait to get your answer to my actually questions You can say yes or no if it helps You had your answers. You didn't like them, so you refuse to answer. Life's not simple, so yes/no answers are not always appropriate. " I will wait ta | |||
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"ForFoxSake Is the SNP fighting for Scotland and the UK to stay in the single market ? Can an independent Scotland be outside the EU and in the single market ? You answer them and then we shall move on ok Is the SNP fighting.. It's doing whatever it can to frustrate the government, part of that strategy is to try and get involved in activities beyond its remit. I think they are doing this for the sake of the SNP not Scotland. Can an independent Scotland.. As the Scottish people comprehensively rejected independence this is a non question. Those are my answers. So, please explain the funding issue as per my earlier questions. Try just answering the questions ta I did, they weren't the answers you wanted, but that's moot, so the funding issue? No didnt you went off in your own wee world and twisted so no thanks i will actually wait to get your answer to my actually questions You can say yes or no if it helps You had your answers. You didn't like them, so you refuse to answer. Life's not simple, so yes/no answers are not always appropriate. I will wait ta " You have had answers, please show how my response is not an answer. To assist here is the dictionary definition act in reaction to (a sound such as a telephone ringing or a knock or ring on a door). "Digby answered the door" | |||
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"Ok Kinky. You've ducked my deficit question. No answer. Lets try another. How would an independent Scotland post Brexit propose to pay back it's share of the national debt, estimated to be in the region of £76 billion?" I believe Boris Johnson told the EU whistle for it lmao Is money devolved to Scotland now ? | |||
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"Ok Kinky. You've ducked my deficit question. No answer. Lets try another. How would an independent Scotland post Brexit propose to pay back it's share of the national debt, estimated to be in the region of £76 billion? I believe Boris Johnson told the EU whistle for it lmao Is money devolved to Scotland now ?" The national debt is just that...national and a debt. Scotland has a share of that and GERS acknowledges this fact. | |||
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"Ok Kinky. You've ducked my deficit question. No answer. Lets try another. How would an independent Scotland post Brexit propose to pay back it's share of the national debt, estimated to be in the region of £76 billion? I believe Boris Johnson told the EU whistle for it lmao Is money devolved to Scotland now ?" That's money owed to others than Europe ( national debt). How will Scotland pay it back? | |||
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"Look I really don't care to be independent we must be totally independent, the EU bring in new rules and regulations all the time " So cant tell me what powers we wont be able to do in an independent Scotland in the EU? | |||
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"Look I really don't care to be independent we must be totally independent, the EU bring in new rules and regulations all the time So cant tell me what powers we wont be able to do in an independent Scotland in the EU? " Change corporate tax rates, trade without a Tobin tax. | |||
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"Ok Kinky. You've ducked my deficit question. No answer. Lets try another. How would an independent Scotland post Brexit propose to pay back it's share of the national debt, estimated to be in the region of £76 billion? I believe Boris Johnson told the EU whistle for it lmao Is money devolved to Scotland now ? That's money owed to others than Europe ( national debt). How will Scotland pay it back?" I told you if it was good enough for Boris to threaten the EU with Then...... whistle for it lmao So is money devolved to Scotland ? | |||
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"Ok Kinky. You've ducked my deficit question. No answer. Lets try another. How would an independent Scotland post Brexit propose to pay back it's share of the national debt, estimated to be in the region of £76 billion? I believe Boris Johnson told the EU whistle for it lmao Is money devolved to Scotland now ? That's money owed to others than Europe ( national debt). How will Scotland pay it back? I told you if it was good enough for Boris to threaten the EU with Then...... whistle for it lmao So is money devolved to Scotland ?" But this isn't the EU we are talking about is it. | |||
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"I think you don't understand what independence is just as the snp don't, we are leaving the EU and that is that am not sure what you are looking for from this as you and I are not in the government and can do very little if not nothing about the decision that will be made so the whole thread is just a waste of time " No i dont you do So are you calling Germany , Sweden , Italy , France not independent countries within the EU bloc ? So again what powers wont we be able to do in an independent Scotland in the EU | |||
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"I think you don't understand what independence is just as the snp don't, we are leaving the EU and that is that am not sure what you are looking for from this as you and I are not in the government and can do very little if not nothing about the decision that will be made so the whole thread is just a waste of time No i dont you do So are you calling Germany , Sweden , Italy , France not independent countries within the EU bloc ? So again what powers wont we be able to do in an independent Scotland in the EU" I have you a clear and succinct answer to that a few posts ago. To repeat them Trade without a Tobin tax Vary corporate tax rates I could have included borrow on international markets (All the above about to happen unless veto in place) | |||
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"One of the those things would be opt outs of VAT, the UK when the treaties were being made managed to get these opt outs. For example, basic foods in the UK do not attract VAT, as do books, children's clothes and shoes. Instantly all these things would be more expensive (20%), also Schengen is a requirement for new members too I do think that you are putting the cart before the horse here, we do not comply with the rules required of membership. We would need to set up a central bank and a new currency and have the reserves to protect it. This would be expensive and risky. I'm sorry but we have to take these difficult steps before even considering membership. Interesting to note, the last new member of the EU took ten years from application to accession. " Just out of interest who was it and any idea of how long it took to get to the position where they could apply? | |||
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"Yes I am saying they are not truly independent as they have the EU telling them what rules to follow, I don't understand what you aren't getting about my post fuck the EU lets build a wall around Scotland to keep them out and we can put you on the other side of it with them lol" Ok so are you telling me Brussels is telling all 27 independent countries in the EU what they can and cannot do ? I give you an example the UK have power over immigrantion its reversed to the UK government so you telling me thats the EU fault ? | |||
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" I give you clue the scumbags lol So yeah whistle for it lol " That response is one of the reasons you get so much flak, this is not how governments do business it may be fine for dodgy used car salesmen but not governments. For Scotland to become an independent country, it will require an act of Parliament, there is no way the Parliament would accept that Scotland does not take a share of debt. The only other route would be a unilateral declaration of independence. This however would be fraught with danger, as the new country would be seen as a defaulter and a high risk for loans making them expensive. Think what you are saying, bravado doesn't work on the money markets. | |||
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" Just out of interest who was it and any idea of how long it took to get to the position where they could apply?" Croatia, pre application help is available here:https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/instruments/overview_en And application process here: https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/policy/conditions-membership_en | |||
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"Look at what point did I say that they do that? I understand that some powers are up to the home nations but not all of them, am not sure what your real issues are but they are clearly many its time to move on and just deal with what is happening rather than what you are doing now" So Brussels doesnt go around telling government in the EU 27 what to say and do ? Who knew eh lol | |||
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"How do you work that out? Not all vote leave are against immigration, immigration has helped all four nations in the UK " But its the biggest reason for brexit correct ? Take back our borders was it ? Lol | |||
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