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Thatcher stole children's free school milk, now Justine Greening with the full backing of May is stealing million of the poorest children's free school dinners to finance subsidies to the richest corporations and individuals in the land.
Is it me, or is there something very wrong with these Tory women? |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"Thatcher stole children's free school milk, now Justine Greening with the full backing of May is stealing million of the poorest children's free school dinners to finance subsidies to the richest corporations and individuals in the land.
Is it me, or is there something very wrong with these Tory women?"
And what Cabinet position does Justine Greening hold? |
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"Thatcher stole children's free school milk, now Justine Greening with the full backing of May is stealing million of the poorest children's free school dinners to finance subsidies to the richest corporations and individuals in the land.
Is it me, or is there something very wrong with these Tory women?"
School milk was always over creamed and frozen |
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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago
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I don't think the females in the Tory Party are any better or worse than the males.
They all tend to adhere to the same ideology, which tends to be about looking after people like them. |
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Which party is more progressive? How many female leaders have the Labour party had? Ah yes that would be none, diddly squat and a big fat zero, 0.
Meanwhile the Conservatives have had 2 female leaders Thatcher and May. |
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"Which party is more progressive? How many female leaders have the Labour party had? Ah yes that would be none, diddly squat and a big fat zero, 0.
Meanwhile the Conservatives have had 2 female leaders Thatcher and May. "
Well done for that observation I’m pretty sure everyone on here would no that |
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I think it's fairly likely, probably obvious, that women in the tory party have had a terrible barrier against their success. The job and the party attracts a certain type generally: they are self-important, with limited empathy for others but a strong readiness to inflict pain and suffering on the majority. And they've been largely keen to make the disabled pay for banks errors, whatever the costs, including many, many deaths including suicides.
There is variation amongst them - some of them not particularly competent (May), others more compassionate and some more team workers, rather than ruthless climbers. |
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"Which party is more progressive? How many female leaders have the Labour party had? Ah yes that would be none, diddly squat and a big fat zero, 0.
Meanwhile the Conservatives have had 2 female leaders Thatcher and May.
Well done for that observation I’m pretty sure everyone on here would no that "
K & W |
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"Which party is more progressive? How many female leaders have the Labour party had? Ah yes that would be none, diddly squat and a big fat zero, 0.
Meanwhile the Conservatives have had 2 female leaders Thatcher and May.
Well done for that observation I’m pretty sure everyone on here would no that
K & W"
G F Y |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Which party is more progressive? How many female leaders have the Labour party had? Ah yes that would be none, diddly squat and a big fat zero, 0.
Meanwhile the Conservatives have had 2 female leaders Thatcher and May. "
Progressiveness has bollocks to do with it. People vote on the combination of whoever but forward the least shit policies, and whoever taps into t he sentiment of the country.
Aye the tories have had two female leaders, both were shite |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Thatcher stole children's free school milk, now Justine Greening with the full backing of May is stealing million of the poorest children's free school dinners to finance subsidies to the richest corporations and individuals in the land.
Is it me, or is there something very wrong with these Tory women?"
So all money saved by cutting free school meals is going directly to pay subsidies to richest blah blah etc? that exact cash, not any other cash... Just that cash, stuffed into an envelope with free school meals written on it is then handed to big rich corperations? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"which cash stuffed in an unmarked envelope do you say is being handed to them then?"
Sterling or tax breaks etc whatever method has been chosen for whatever they have been promised by the Government.
It all comes from 1 big pot, so you could easily say free school meals are being taken away to pay for Brexit, pay for International Aid, to the NHS.... you get my point I'm sure.
The bitter always look to the top of the tree to blame for their downfalls in life. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"which cash stuffed in an unmarked envelope do you say is being handed to them then?
Sterling or tax breaks etc whatever method has been chosen for whatever they have been promised by the Government.
It all comes from 1 big pot, so you could easily say free school meals are being taken away to pay for Brexit, pay for International Aid, to the NHS.... you get my point I'm sure.
The bitter always look to the top of the tree to blame for their downfalls in life. "
now you're just adding another layer of ambiguity, on-top of your previous layer of ambiguity that was used to underline somebody else's layer of ambiguity.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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Having an ideology is fine but misrepresentation of the facts does the OP no favours at all.
He knows, because we have discussed it before, that it was Labour Education minister Ted Short that first withdrew free milk to secondary school pupils in 1968. The country was facing an economic crisis, and this was a cost-saving measure.
Margaret Thatcher then withdrew free school milk to 7-11 year olds in 1971. Released Goverment papers show her opposition to the measure but she was over-ruled by PM Ted Heath.
Labour dubbed her "Thatcher, milk snatcher" but despite their outrage, did nothing to reintroduce it when they came back into power in 1974. In fact, they quietly withdrew free milk to 5-7 year olds.
I'm not even sure where the Justine Greening reference comes from?? The fact that she isn't even a Cabinet Minister, means she can hardly introduce policy.
If the OP is talking about the once planned removal of hot dinners in favour of breakfast, then he couldn't have been paying attention when Nick Gibb announced to the Commons on 4th July 2017, that that idea had been dropped! |
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"Having an ideology is fine but misrepresentation of the facts does the OP no favours at all.
He knows, because we have discussed it before, that it was Labour Education minister Ted Short that first withdrew free milk to secondary school pupils in 1968. The country was facing an economic crisis, and this was a cost-saving measure.
Margaret Thatcher then withdrew free school milk to 7-11 year olds in 1971. Released Goverment papers show her opposition to the measure but she was over-ruled by PM Ted Heath.
Labour dubbed her "Thatcher, milk snatcher" but despite their outrage, did nothing to reintroduce it when they came back into power in 1974. In fact, they quietly withdrew free milk to 5-7 year olds.
I'm not even sure where the Justine Greening reference comes from?? The fact that she isn't even a Cabinet Minister, means she can hardly introduce policy.
If the OP is talking about the once planned removal of hot dinners in favour of breakfast, then he couldn't have been paying attention when Nick Gibb announced to the Commons on 4th July 2017, that that idea had been dropped!"
I'm beginning to think Misrepresentation is the OP's middle name.
He has a habit of posting 'facts' that sound genuine but once you do some research it is just fake news. |
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"I'm beginning to think Misrepresentation is the OP's middle name.
He has a habit of posting 'facts' that sound genuine but once you do some research it is just fake news."
I mentioned Justine Greening, for a reason. She saw the SoS for Education until the reshuffle in January. If any of you think that a new SoS can move into a non Treasury office and develop an obviously Treasury driven cost saving austerity policy in less than 6 weeks your even more obtuse than I gave you credit for. Or maybe I am being too harsh and your just are not politically sophisticated to understand how government works and that all Ministers of the Crown bar the PM and Chancellor (and especially those being kicked onto the back benches) keep the implementation of their most hateful fiscal policies until they know they are being sacked and pass them to their successor as 'special' welcome to the job 'present'. The announcement of such policies usually comes 4 to 8 weeks after the reshuffle. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"I'm beginning to think Misrepresentation is the OP's middle name.
He has a habit of posting 'facts' that sound genuine but once you do some research it is just fake news.
I mentioned Justine Greening, for a reason. She saw the SoS for Education until the reshuffle in January. If any of you think that a new SoS can move into a non Treasury office and develop an obviously Treasury driven cost saving austerity policy in less than 6 weeks your even more obtuse than I gave you credit for. Or maybe I am being too harsh and your just are not politically sophisticated to understand how government works and that all Ministers of the Crown bar the PM and Chancellor (and especially those being kicked onto the back benches) keep the implementation of their most hateful fiscal policies until they know they are being sacked and pass them to their successor as 'special' welcome to the job 'present'. The announcement of such policies usually comes 4 to 8 weeks after the reshuffle."
Again the OP gets mixed up.
If he's talking about the proposed £7400 net earnings threshold for Universal Credit and it's impact on free school meals, then it's nothing to do with the Dept for Education.
This is a proposal from the Dept for Work and Pensions, and it's previous incumbent SoS, David Gauke. The January reshuffle handed the responsibility over to Esther McVey.
There was a consultation period on the proposal, which ended on January 11th and the DWP still has to report back to Parliament on the direction it intends to take. |
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"Which party is more progressive? How many female leaders have the Labour party had? Ah yes that would be none, diddly squat and a big fat zero, 0.
Meanwhile the Conservatives have had 2 female leaders Thatcher and May. "
I think you'll find that was one dictator and a dithering wet blanket who is as strong and stable as a one legged table |
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"Which party is more progressive? How many female leaders have the Labour party had? Ah yes that would be none, diddly squat and a big fat zero, 0.
Meanwhile the Conservatives have had 2 female leaders Thatcher and May. "
I remember Thatcher closing mental health in our area and rehoused them to a block of flats. One of them ended up chopping a girl into pieces. Very progressive.
Plus my parents who worked for the NHS, privatisation began in the thatcher period selling off contracts and tenders which dramatically reduced the performance.
Not sure why labour has a reputation of bringing down the country, I think noone has the reputation to bring up a country. |
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"Which party is more progressive? How many female leaders have the Labour party had? Ah yes that would be none, diddly squat and a big fat zero, 0.
Meanwhile the Conservatives have had 2 female leaders Thatcher and May.
I remember Thatcher closing mental health in our area and rehoused them to a block of flats. One of them ended up chopping a girl into pieces. Very progressive.
Plus my parents who worked for the NHS, privatisation began in the thatcher period selling off contracts and tenders which dramatically reduced the performance.
Not sure why labour has a reputation of bringing down the country, I think noone has the reputation to bring up a country."
Every tory should be put down |
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"Which party is more progressive? How many female leaders have the Labour party had? Ah yes that would be none, diddly squat and a big fat zero, 0.
Meanwhile the Conservatives have had 2 female leaders Thatcher and May.
I remember Thatcher closing mental health in our area and rehoused them to a block of flats. One of them ended up chopping a girl into pieces. Very progressive.
Plus my parents who worked for the NHS, privatisation began in the thatcher period selling off contracts and tenders which dramatically reduced the performance.
Not sure why labour has a reputation of bringing down the country, I think noone has the reputation to bring up a country.
Every tory should be put down "
Bit harsh- i think chased through the countryside on horseback, with a pack of hungry hounds...gives em a sporting chance then |
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"No, it is Tories as a whole who are the problem. Cut tax for the rich and cutting services for the rest of us isn’t a gender thing, just a Tory one. "
And preferably make a nice earner for themselves or mates, whatever they do. |
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