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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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...has been sold to a larger company in the US. The owner, Bill Munro, who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK, and then ran away on holiday leaving the press to talk to his daughter, says......no jobs are at risk from the sale.
So......at risk if move south but assured if sells to the US.
In the words of my Scottish friend- 'Ah think ah smell shite'..... |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
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"...has been sold to a larger company in the US. The owner, Bill Munro, who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK, and then ran away on holiday leaving the press to talk to his daughter, says......no jobs are at risk from the sale.
So......at risk if move south but assured if sells to the US.
In the words of my Scottish friend- 'Ah think ah smell shite'....."
Do you have a link to where he said this? |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"I'm on my phone- why don't you just google it? try the Herald."
I did but I still couldn't find this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK"
I've also read the memo he sent to staff and couldn't find it. The Herald article doesn't say that either. |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"You can't find because it is not a quote from him, he did say independence for Scotland would be a disaster.
I agree with him on that. "
Yeah I remember that, and also the usual Nat boycott that followed. Don't remember him saying what the OP claimed though. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"37% of our business comes from England and we would not be able to trade outwith Scotland due to Scotland being outwith the EU and English regulations for at least three years"
direct quote. It's easy when you look |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
""37% of our business comes from England and we would not be able to trade outwith Scotland due to Scotland being outwith the EU and English regulations for at least three years"
direct quote. It's easy when you look"
That's not what you said though, you claimed he said this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK", which is completely different. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"...has been sold to a larger company in the US. The owner, Bill Munro, who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK, and then ran away on holiday leaving the press to talk to his daughter, says......no jobs are at risk from the sale.
So......at risk if move south but assured if sells to the US.
In the words of my Scottish friend- 'Ah think ah smell shite'....."
Do people still use "travel agents" ! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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""37% of our business comes from England and we would not be able to trade outwith Scotland due to Scotland being outwith the EU and English regulations for at least three years"
direct quote. It's easy when you look
That's not what you said though, you claimed he said this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK", which is completely different."
That's exactly what he said. Everything moderated after that didn't come from him, it was damage limitation from the company. |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
""37% of our business comes from England and we would not be able to trade outwith Scotland due to Scotland being outwith the EU and English regulations for at least three years"
direct quote. It's easy when you look
That's not what you said though, you claimed he said this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK", which is completely different.
That's exactly what he said. Everything moderated after that didn't come from him, it was damage limitation from the company."
Okay, post a link or point me to one where he says that everyone will lose their job as he moves everything to the rest of the uk. The Herald article you claim you read it on doesn't say it, the memo he sent to the staff doesn't say it, so where is it? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"I'm on my phone- why don't you just google it? try the Herald.
I did but I still couldn't find this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK"
I've also read the memo he sent to staff and couldn't find it. The Herald article doesn't say that either."
She probably got it from an embedded internal source that cannot be revealed!  |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"I'm on my phone- why don't you just google it? try the Herald.
I did but I still couldn't find this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK"
I've also read the memo he sent to staff and couldn't find it. The Herald article doesn't say that either.
She probably got it from an embedded internal source that cannot be revealed! "
I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt but this thread it starting to have a familiar feel about it. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"I'm on my phone- why don't you just google it? try the Herald.
I did but I still couldn't find this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK"
I've also read the memo he sent to staff and couldn't find it. The Herald article doesn't say that either.
She probably got it from an embedded internal source that cannot be revealed!
I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt but this thread it starting to have a familiar feel about it."
We'll watch it with interest. I'm sure the OP will be able to give us the source of their quote. |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"I'm on my phone- why don't you just google it? try the Herald.
I did but I still couldn't find this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK"
I've also read the memo he sent to staff and couldn't find it. The Herald article doesn't say that either.
She probably got it from an embedded internal source that cannot be revealed!
I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt but this thread it starting to have a familiar feel about it.
We'll watch it with interest. I'm sure the OP will be able to give us the source of their quote. "
The thing is, it should be very very clear whay he never said it. He pointed out that independence would have a negative effect on the business given 37% of the business the company done was in the rest of the UK.
So that being the case why would he sack everyone in the location where 63% of it's business is done and move everything to an area where 37% of it is done instead. No one would. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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That's commonsense and I agree but that's not the point.
The email sought to manipulate his workers' votes and infers moving the business to rUK. The staff, on low wages, are not likely to relocate. But selling to a US company doesn't seem to hold the same problem.
I firmly believe that no business owner, of any persuasion, has a right to inflict his political beliefs on his workforce. They are not serfs. |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"That's commonsense and I agree but that's not the point.
The email sought to manipulate his workers' votes and infers moving the business to rUK. The staff, on low wages, are not likely to relocate. But selling to a US company doesn't seem to hold the same problem.
I firmly believe that no business owner, of any persuasion, has a right to inflict his political beliefs on his workforce. They are not serfs. "
Okay, I see you're no longer claiming he said everything would move to rUK and everyone would lose their jobs but sorry I'm afraid he didn't infer it either. He pointed out that independence would be bad for the business, it's pretty obvious that would've been the case. I don't see a problem with a business setting out how they believe an important decision could affect them and informing their staff. He doesn't order them how to vote, he lays out the reasons he believes it would be bad.
Would you feel the same if a business let their employees know that Brexit would have a negative impact on it prior to the Brexit vote? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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I completely disagree with your analysis of it.
The business is an agency via franchises, not a travel company. As such it facilitates holidays with other companies so there would have been no reason for any loss of rUK business.There was no reason why this could not have continued exactly as it was. If anything, this is proven by the sale to a US company.
My point is, though, that when hard cash speaks, scruples disappear. Can't imagine his daughter who put her life into the business, is too happy about having it sold from under her. Maybe that's the bigger picture of the man.
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"I'm on my phone- why don't you just google it? try the Herald.
I did but I still couldn't find this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK"
I've also read the memo he sent to staff and couldn't find it. The Herald article doesn't say that either.
She probably got it from an embedded internal source that cannot be revealed!
I always like to give people the benefit of the doubt but this thread it starting to have a familiar feel about it.
We'll watch it with interest. I'm sure the OP will be able to give us the source of their quote.
The thing is, it should be very very clear whay he never said it. He pointed out that independence would have a negative effect on the business given 37% of the business the company done was in the rest of the UK.
So that being the case why would he sack everyone in the location where 63% of it's business is done and move everything to an area where 37% of it is done instead. No one would. "
So did the get the source of the quote? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I completely disagree with your analysis of it.
The business is an agency via franchises, not a travel company. As such it facilitates holidays with other companies so there would have been no reason for any loss of rUK business.There was no reason why this could not have continued exactly as it was. If anything, this is proven by the sale to a US company.
My point is, though, that when hard cash speaks, scruples disappear. Can't imagine his daughter who put her life into the business, is too happy about having it sold from under her. Maybe that's the bigger picture of the man.
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what's wrong with selling up and enjoying a comfortable life |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"I completely disagree with your analysis of it.
The business is an agency via franchises, not a travel company. As such it facilitates holidays with other companies so there would have been no reason for any loss of rUK business.There was no reason why this could not have continued exactly as it was. If anything, this is proven by the sale to a US company.
My point is, though, that when hard cash speaks, scruples disappear. Can't imagine his daughter who put her life into the business, is too happy about having it sold from under her. Maybe that's the bigger picture of the man.
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So you lied yet again then? |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
I can't believe I'm having to point out something very basic but I will.
The head of Barrhead Travel pointed out, correctly, that an indy Scotland would be outwith the EU and therefore trading arrangements between Scotland and rUK would be very different. This would have impacted on the business given that 37% of the business was in rUK.
What is difficult to understand about this? |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
To make a final point, the sale to a US company means nothing as we are still part of the UK. So nothing changed with the business. The only issue would've been if Scotland became independent, in which case the business would've left the UK market. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Where did I lie? I find that offensive.
I'm afraid you completely miss my point by being so anti independence. It's not a political point or that difficult, really. I'm sorry but you don't understand. It's about scruples and money.
Anyway, to be fair, I was wrong as it turns out, the business was sold by his daughter just after she bought him out. Was online yesterday, the day after the news if the sale.
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"I'm on my phone- why don't you just google it? try the Herald.
I did but I still couldn't find this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK"
I've also read the memo he sent to staff and couldn't find it. The Herald article doesn't say that either.
She probably got it from an embedded internal source that cannot be revealed! "
Looks like I was right! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Hmm seen statements like this before somewhere lol.
So basically no evidence of anything you have said OP? 
I'm sure the OP will get back to you."
yeh and im sure you will be first to comment when he does, your on here 24/7 |
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By *andACouple
over a year ago
glasgow |
"Could I just ask what rUK means please?
Is it a derogatory term for the UK or a term for the UK minus Scotland?"
Just means rest of the UK (excluding Scotland). It's handy for looking at things like trade where Scotland exports 4 times as much to rUK than it does to the EU |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I'm on my phone- why don't you just google it? try the Herald.
I did but I still couldn't find this: "who famously said that if his employees voted yes in the Scottish referendum, they would lose their jobs as he'd move everything to rUK"
I've also read the memo he sent to staff and couldn't find it. The Herald article doesn't say that either."
Barrhead travel is on the snp ban list along with Tunnocks Tea Cakes etc.
The guy that owned the company was allowed to voice his opinion which was his right to do so whether you agree or not !!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"That's commonsense and I agree but that's not the point.
The email sought to manipulate his workers' votes and infers moving the business to rUK. The staff, on low wages, are not likely to relocate. But selling to a US company doesn't seem to hold the same problem.
I firmly believe that no business owner, of any persuasion, has a right to inflict his political beliefs on his workforce. They are not serfs. "
Brian Soutor was very vocal supporting independence and I would support his right to do so.
By his very stature in the business world would exert influence over his workers by his thoughts and deeds.
He has been quiet since he fell out with Saint Nicola over gay rights !!! |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"That's commonsense and I agree but that's not the point.
The email sought to manipulate his workers' votes and infers moving the business to rUK. The staff, on low wages, are not likely to relocate. But selling to a US company doesn't seem to hold the same problem.
I firmly believe that no business owner, of any persuasion, has a right to inflict his political beliefs on his workforce. They are not serfs.
Brian Soutor was very vocal supporting independence and I would support his right to do so.
By his very stature in the business world would exert influence over his workers by his thoughts and deeds.
He has been quiet since he fell out with Saint Nicola over gay rights !!!"
Perhaps keeping his head down as his Stagecoach group has gone tits up with the ECML rail franchise! |
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"Could I just ask what rUK means please?
Is it a derogatory term for the UK or a term for the UK minus Scotland?
Just means rest of the UK (excluding Scotland). It's handy for looking at things like trade where Scotland exports 4 times as much to rUK than it does to the EU"
Thanks for that. Sometimes we feel ignorant when we don't get the anachronisms. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"Hmm seen statements like this before somewhere lol.
So basically no evidence of anything you have said OP?
I'm sure the OP will get back to you."
I'm sure she'll be along any minute now...... |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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There is no excuse for laziness and sheer ignorance on your part.
“If that (Independence) happens in Scotland we might look to move our head office south of the border.
“A lot of people in Scotland are thinking about it (independence) with emotion and with a Braveheart approach rather than taking a reality check on what it would really mean.
“It would not make business sense.”
http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/barrow/Travel-firm-moves-in-to-iconic-Barrow-building-adf65e23-4861-4cbb-9198-3fa671f9811c-ds |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Makes you look like a bit of a dick, doesn't it? Never mind, just a very small one. Now, stop trolling me on posts and go get a life. "
Who looks like a Dick? The 3 or 4 people who asked you for a quote, yet when you provided it, it didn't say what you had claimed it said? Yeah, I can think of one person who looks a bit daft! |
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