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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

So The Scottish government get the UK government telt thT if the release the brexit analysis the Scottish government will release it to the public

UK government shit a brick and say we are warning you do not release the analysis to public

Sounds like the UK government really do not want the public to see how bad brexit is going to be

Scotland and the rest of the UK have a right to know what it will mean remember in 2014 Scottish referendum the Tories saying they want to know what independence will mean for Scotland abit of double standards from the Tories hehe all noted thought

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

A confidence is just that, a confidence.

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By *icklybitMan  over a year ago

Ayrshire

Any link to this brick that was "shit"?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Any link to this brick that was "shit"? "

Are you too afraid to say you agree with the Scottish government that they will release the analysis for the public to see ?

Do you not want the public to see these brexit analysis ?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

You would even think leave voters would be saying the UK government should release the brext analysis to the public if they think brexit is gonna be great for the UK prove it then the more the UK government hide it and cover up the more it looks dodgy

But hey why should the rich elite care it wont affect them its the poor and businesses that will suffer

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By *icklybitMan  over a year ago

Ayrshire


"Any link to this brick that was "shit"?

Are you too afraid to say you agree with the Scottish government that they will release the analysis for the public to see ?

Do you not want the public to see these brexit analysis ? "

No link then.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

The unelected Scottish government?

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"The unelected Scottish government? "

Any thoughts on the thread remember you saying you always wanna stick the what the thread is about hehe

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The unelected Scottish government?

Any thoughts on the thread remember you saying you always wanna stick the what the thread is about hehe "

Im just trying to clarify, you are talking about the government in Scotland that you think are unelected, right? Its just you were bitching about the house of lords being unelected the other day, so I don’t understand why you are unhappy about the unelected house of lords, but happy about the scottish government that you erroneously believe to be unelected.

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By *ara JTV/TS  over a year ago

Bristol East

i suspect there is nothing in any these reports that wasn't put in front of the voters before the referendum.

Experts, what do they know, eh?

i recall when Cameron and Osborne waved a report that warned everyone, or every household, would be £3k a year worse off under Brexit.

A lady in NE England was interviewed on the telly.

"Three grand?" she said. "I've never had three grand, I don't know what three grand looks like. I've no money now and if I've no money then I won't be any worse off, so what have I got to lose."

It summed up the huge mistake Cameron made.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't normally back a Tory government but the eu are playing everything close to their chest and the UK government should do the same.

The papers don't give the full story so will be of limited use to the public.

only kinky can think giving someone you are negotiating with more ammunition is a good thing !!!!

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"i suspect there is nothing in any these reports that wasn't put in front of the voters before the referendum.

Experts, what do they know, eh?

i recall when Cameron and Osborne waved a report that warned everyone, or every household, would be £3k a year worse off under Brexit.

A lady in NE England was interviewed on the telly.

"Three grand?" she said. "I've never had three grand, I don't know what three grand looks like. I've no money now and if I've no money then I won't be any worse off, so what have I got to lose."

It summed up the huge mistake Cameron made.

"

I think you are right.

What the Leave propaganda managed to do was to target the older generation and those of a fragile personality and convince them that their identity was under threat. For many of the elderly voters who missed out on WW2, I think that this was their WW2 moment where they could make the looking back with rose tinted glasses into something more meaningful. The younger snowflakes who allowed themselves to be convinced that there were threats around every corner and that "foreigners" were telling them what to do - well they really just ought to have been better educated or have a better grasp on the world around them.

People did of course vote for all sorts of reasons but the Leave campaign generally managed to capture the fears of many that their very identity and their very being was under threat.

Ironically, it illustrates just exactly who the real snowflakes are.

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I don't normally back a Tory government but the eu are playing everything close to their chest and the UK government should do the same.

The papers don't give the full story so will be of limited use to the public.

only kinky can think giving someone you are negotiating with more ammunition is a good thing !!!! "

Thats right tail behind the legs lol

The EU were very open saying to move on the the next stage on talks EU citizens , Irish border and settling the money owed they were clear about that and open about that

Where as you want the UK government not to even tell the UK public what brexit will mean

But what do i expect from someone that back the UK union instead of Scottish independence i think its more you dont want the Scottish people to see brexit is going to be fucking bad for the Scottish economy and people thinking oh independence sounds better lol

Do you not remember the full Better Together moaning their arses off in 2014 saying we need to know this and that about independence for Scotland abit of double standards

so see when the next independence referendum comes along i dint wanna hear unionists then moan about we wanna know everything about what independence will mean for Scotland as you clear think its ok to keep everything covered up and not let the public see well noted!!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Btw dont you just love digging up old stories pre- referendum in Scotland

Former Scottish Labour branch office leader - Jim Murphy or as i call him heed the baw said this on April 2014

'' The EU is our biggest market''

So which is it for unionists is the EU the biggest or the UK for Scotland ? Cant be both

See this is what is great about catching out the Better Together mob

This is why we need to know about what brexit will mean for Scotland and the UK lets see who is telling the truth and who is lying

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By *icklybitMan  over a year ago

Ayrshire

Well the snp are not noted for accuracy when it come to economic forecasts, are they?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hopefully the full report will be published so we can all see how bad its going to be

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Hopefully the full report will be published so we can all see how bad its going to be "

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

Agree but the swivel eyed loons and their followers will scream fake news..

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By *ilent.KnightMan  over a year ago

Swindon

To many it’s no suprise the impacts are bad. The positive is at least those who are taking a position are now following up the rhetoric with some analysis. It should always have been a point of embarrassment they were dismissing project fear without any of their own analysis.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

It does seem as if the government have something to hide. If the studies were positive or even neutral I am sure they would be rushing to publish them in order to silence their detractors.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I don't normally back a Tory government but the eu are playing everything close to their chest and the UK government should do the same.

The papers don't give the full story so will be of limited use to the public.

only kinky can think giving someone you are negotiating with more ammunition is a good thing !!!!

Thats right tail behind the legs lol

The EU were very open saying to move on the the next stage on talks EU citizens , Irish border and settling the money owed they were clear about that and open about that

Where as you want the UK government not to even tell the UK public what brexit will mean

But what do i expect from someone that back the UK union instead of Scottish independence i think its more you dont want the Scottish people to see brexit is going to be fucking bad for the Scottish economy and people thinking oh independence sounds better lol

Do you not remember the full Better Together moaning their arses off in 2014 saying we need to know this and that about independence for Scotland abit of double standards

so see when the next independence referendum comes along i dint wanna hear unionists then moan about we wanna know everything about what independence will mean for Scotland as you clear think its ok to keep everything covered up and not let the public see well noted!!"

And a lot worse if we leave the UK !!!!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"I don't normally back a Tory government but the eu are playing everything close to their chest and the UK government should do the same.

The papers don't give the full story so will be of limited use to the public.

only kinky can think giving someone you are negotiating with more ammunition is a good thing !!!!

Thats right tail behind the legs lol

The EU were very open saying to move on the the next stage on talks EU citizens , Irish border and settling the money owed they were clear about that and open about that

Where as you want the UK government not to even tell the UK public what brexit will mean

But what do i expect from someone that back the UK union instead of Scottish independence i think its more you dont want the Scottish people to see brexit is going to be fucking bad for the Scottish economy and people thinking oh independence sounds better lol

Do you not remember the full Better Together moaning their arses off in 2014 saying we need to know this and that about independence for Scotland abit of double standards

so see when the next independence referendum comes along i dint wanna hear unionists then moan about we wanna know everything about what independence will mean for Scotland as you clear think its ok to keep everything covered up and not let the public see well noted!!

And a lot worse if we leave the UK !!!!"

Right let me get this right

You back the Tories on not showing the public the brexit impact analysis to see if it will be bad for Scotland and the UK

Yet your claiming it will be worse to leave the UK without knowing what an independent Scotland will look like

Am now curious did you vote to remain in the EU? If you did if an independent Scotland will 100% be in the EU as a member state how would you vote in an independepencw referendum would vote independence for Scotland in the EU or vote to stay in the UK outside of the EU in a hard brexit ?

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By *icklybitMan  over a year ago

Ayrshire

We have asked numerous times, what would an independent Scotland look like?

What was the answer?

The white paper tried to paint a rosy picture of independence, unfortunately it all turned to shit within a couple of months, all forecasts wrong, EU membership a bust, currency and trade etc.

Now we are expecting the Growth Commission to release their report, it was supposed to be out last year but the snp,s arses collapsed and had a shit haemorrhage when they read it and realised the dire situation Scotland is in.

They do have a history of burying bad news, we are still awaiting results from the "listening exercise" called the National Survey in late 2016.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We have asked numerous times, what would an independent Scotland look like?

What was the answer?

The white paper tried to paint a rosy picture of independence, unfortunately it all turned to shit within a couple of months, all forecasts wrong, EU membership a bust, currency and trade etc.

Now we are expecting the Growth Commission to release their report, it was supposed to be out last year but the snp,s arses collapsed and had a shit haemorrhage when they read it and realised the dire situation Scotland is in.

They do have a history of burying bad news, we are still awaiting results from the "listening exercise" called the National Survey in late 2016.

"

If you go on the snat sites then you will see the sheep responded to it four and five times each.

No self respecting person went near it as it was a data mining exercise! !!!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"We have asked numerous times, what would an independent Scotland look like?

What was the answer?

The white paper tried to paint a rosy picture of independence, unfortunately it all turned to shit within a couple of months, all forecasts wrong, EU membership a bust, currency and trade etc.

Now we are expecting the Growth Commission to release their report, it was supposed to be out last year but the snp,s arses collapsed and had a shit haemorrhage when they read it and realised the dire situation Scotland is in.

They do have a history of burying bad news, we are still awaiting results from the "listening exercise" called the National Survey in late 2016.

If you go on the snat sites then you will see the sheep responded to it four and five times each.

No self respecting person went near it as it was a data mining exercise! !!!"

Am now curious did you vote to remain in the EU? If you did if an independent Scotland will 100% be in the EU as a member state how would you vote in an independepencw referendum would vote independence for Scotland in the EU or vote to stay in the UK outside of the EU in a hard brexit?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"We have asked numerous times, what would an independent Scotland look like?

What was the answer?

The white paper tried to paint a rosy picture of independence, unfortunately it all turned to shit within a couple of months, all forecasts wrong, EU membership a bust, currency and trade etc.

Now we are expecting the Growth Commission to release their report, it was supposed to be out last year but the snp,s arses collapsed and had a shit haemorrhage when they read it and realised the dire situation Scotland is in.

They do have a history of burying bad news, we are still awaiting results from the "listening exercise" called the National Survey in late 2016.

If you go on the snat sites then you will see the sheep responded to it four and five times each.

No self respecting person went near it as it was a data mining exercise! !!!

Am now curious did you vote to remain in the EU? If you did if an independent Scotland will 100% be in the EU as a member state how would you vote in an independepencw referendum would vote independence for Scotland in the EU or vote to stay in the UK outside of the EU in a hard brexit? "

No, they wouldn't. They would have to apply. At the moment, they don't meet the criteria for membership. But we all know how you struggle with criteria!

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"We have asked numerous times, what would an independent Scotland look like?

What was the answer?

The white paper tried to paint a rosy picture of independence, unfortunately it all turned to shit within a couple of months, all forecasts wrong, EU membership a bust, currency and trade etc.

Now we are expecting the Growth Commission to release their report, it was supposed to be out last year but the snp,s arses collapsed and had a shit haemorrhage when they read it and realised the dire situation Scotland is in.

They do have a history of burying bad news, we are still awaiting results from the "listening exercise" called the National Survey in late 2016.

If you go on the snat sites then you will see the sheep responded to it four and five times each.

No self respecting person went near it as it was a data mining exercise! !!!

Am now curious did you vote to remain in the EU? If you did if an independent Scotland will 100% be in the EU as a member state how would you vote in an independepencw referendum would vote independence for Scotland in the EU or vote to stay in the UK outside of the EU in a hard brexit?

No, they wouldn't. They would have to apply. At the moment, they don't meet the criteria for membership. But we all know how you struggle with criteria! "

Do you read ? I asked him "if an independent Scotland will 100% be in the EU as a member state how would you vote in an independepence referendum would vote independence for Scotland in the EU or vote to stay in the UK outside of the EU in a hard brexit?

The point of that question CLCC if you bothered looking is to see he would vote if he voted to remain in the EU lol

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"We have asked numerous times, what would an independent Scotland look like?

What was the answer?

The white paper tried to paint a rosy picture of independence, unfortunately it all turned to shit within a couple of months, all forecasts wrong, EU membership a bust, currency and trade etc.

Now we are expecting the Growth Commission to release their report, it was supposed to be out last year but the snp,s arses collapsed and had a shit haemorrhage when they read it and realised the dire situation Scotland is in.

They do have a history of burying bad news, we are still awaiting results from the "listening exercise" called the National Survey in late 2016.

If you go on the snat sites then you will see the sheep responded to it four and five times each.

No self respecting person went near it as it was a data mining exercise! !!!

Am now curious did you vote to remain in the EU? If you did if an independent Scotland will 100% be in the EU as a member state how would you vote in an independepencw referendum would vote independence for Scotland in the EU or vote to stay in the UK outside of the EU in a hard brexit?

No, they wouldn't. They would have to apply. At the moment, they don't meet the criteria for membership. But we all know how you struggle with criteria!

Do you read ? I asked him "if an independent Scotland will 100% be in the EU as a member state how would you vote in an independepence referendum would vote independence for Scotland in the EU or vote to stay in the UK outside of the EU in a hard brexit?

The point of that question CLCC if you bothered looking is to see he would vote if he voted to remain in the EU lol

"

Sorry, my bad. So you were asking him a hypothetical? Do you answer hypothetical questions?

I seem to remember you being asked over and over and over again, if you would vote for independence if it would cost Scotland £40bn a year, however you refused to answer, even as a hypothetical.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London

It's the same basic contradiction.

Either a "country" should do it's own thing alone in a big world or it becomes part of a larger organisation and "sacrifices" some level of "independence" for greater power on an international stage.

Scottish independence means leaving the UK to join the EU.

Tory Brexit means leaving the EU but keeping Scotland.

Cognitive dissonance

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By *inkyHnS OP   Couple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

PM gets interviewed in China shite feart to be interviewed in the UK a guess lol

Now this slogan " take back control " that is all bullshit the UK government have always had control money, laws and the border

Well Scotland has its own laws but you know what i mean

The UK government are banking on the mugs that cant register it that the UK government already have control over all these but instead trying to blame the EU

Thats the UK government for you landing the UK trillions in debt screwing us all fucking up the oil where as Norway are trillions in profit with their oil

The UK government are a fucking embarrassment no wonder the rest of the world can look on pissing themselves laughing i would too

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"It's the same basic contradiction.

Either a "country" should do it's own thing alone in a big world or it becomes part of a larger organisation and "sacrifices" some level of "independence" for greater power on an international stage.

Scottish independence means leaving the UK to join the EU.

Tory Brexit means leaving the EU but keeping Scotland.

Cognitive dissonance "

Yup, you either believe in working together, or going it alone.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"So The Scottish government get the UK government telt thT if the release the brexit analysis the Scottish government will release it to the public

UK government shit a brick and say we are warning you do not release the analysis to public

Sounds like the UK government really do not want the public to see how bad brexit is going to be

Scotland and the rest of the UK have a right to know what it will mean remember in 2014 Scottish referendum the Tories saying they want to know what independence will mean for Scotland abit of double standards from the Tories hehe all noted thought

"

So let me get this right , you like me think brexit will be bad for most living in the UK and your solution is , fuck the English humans they were arbitrarily born in the wrong place I live in Scotland and think only humans arbitrarily born in a specific place deserve to be excused from the cluster fuck and leave the deserving foul scum English to suffer the shit ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"We have asked numerous times, what would an independent Scotland look like?

What was the answer?

The white paper tried to paint a rosy picture of independence, unfortunately it all turned to shit within a couple of months, all forecasts wrong, EU membership a bust, currency and trade etc.

Now we are expecting the Growth Commission to release their report, it was supposed to be out last year but the snp,s arses collapsed and had a shit haemorrhage when they read it and realised the dire situation Scotland is in.

They do have a history of burying bad news, we are still awaiting results from the "listening exercise" called the National Survey in late 2016.

If you go on the snat sites then you will see the sheep responded to it four and five times each.

No self respecting person went near it as it was a data mining exercise! !!!

Am now curious did you vote to remain in the EU? If you did if an independent Scotland will 100% be in the EU as a member state how would you vote in an independepencw referendum would vote independence for Scotland in the EU or vote to stay in the UK outside of the EU in a hard brexit? "

Vote to stay in the UK as most of Scotland's trade is with the UK.

I voted remain but Scotland rejoining holds many dangers.

Scotland would need to reduce the deficit, start an bank and this would lead to austerity max according to the snp ( I can't remember his first name but surname Keravan )

He got hauled over the coals by the snp for being truthful.

Scotland has no automatic right of entry to the eu so we would be in limbo for years.

Scotland would be a net contributor to the eu rather than a net reciever of funds so that almost negates the benifits of joining.

Scotland would not have the opt outs and rebates that Thatcher insisted on.

Truthfully I am not that keen on using the euro And that would be a condition of joining.... it would come eventually.

And finally the powers that will eventually we devoled to Scotland will be handed back to the eu.

While I voted to remain I accept that we need to move on.

Finally the snp campaigned not to join the EU in the first place !!!

Leaving the eu will not be the end of the world for Scotland! !!

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"So The Scottish government get the UK government telt thT if the release the brexit analysis the Scottish government will release it to the public

UK government shit a brick and say we are warning you do not release the analysis to public

Sounds like the UK government really do not want the public to see how bad brexit is going to be

Scotland and the rest of the UK have a right to know what it will mean remember in 2014 Scottish referendum the Tories saying they want to know what independence will mean for Scotland abit of double standards from the Tories hehe all noted thought

So let me get this right , you like me think brexit will be bad for most living in the UK and your solution is , fuck the English humans they were arbitrarily born in the wrong place I live in Scotland and think only humans arbitrarily born in a specific place deserve to be excused from the cluster fuck and leave the deserving foul scum English to suffer the shit ? "

That's how nationalism works in every flavour.

Scotland to UK

Nation state to EU

US state to USA

A series of selfish decisions dressed up as bringing decision making closer. That's what Communism was supposed to do. How has that worked out?

You do the best for the largest number of people by making "your tribe" as large as it can be.

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