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"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. " Seasoned businessman?! Hahahahaahahahahah He has bankrupted pretty much every business he has had, been charged and fined for money laundering. Been pumping up his clubs and hotels with his presidential status. Couldn’t even get a budget through even though his party controls all 3 legislative branches and has yet to actually pass any significant legislation. Oh and got the lowest presidential rating ever. Yeah. Seasoned. -Matt | |||
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"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. Seasoned businessman?! Hahahahaahahahahah He has bankrupted pretty much every business he has had, been charged and fined for money laundering. Been pumping up his clubs and hotels with his presidential status. Couldn’t even get a budget through even though his party controls all 3 legislative branches and has yet to actually pass any significant legislation. Oh and got the lowest presidential rating ever. Yeah. Seasoned. -Matt. So have HSBC I don't see you bitching about them on a daily basis?. Let's get one thing straight, trump ain't good, he's gonna screw everybody as much as he can.... Exactly the same as every fucking leader we've ever had and every major FTSE 100 company does on a daily basis... The only friggin difference is they give you some nice patter to stop you whinging on forums about racism or xenophobia or how triggered we all are about some tweet.... Let's cut the bullshit about how "different" anything would have been if only racists hadn't voted for trump. Trump is just another in a long line of manifestations of human nature. The system isn't fucked, its the people in the system that are fucked, the sooner we come to grips with that in an honest manner the better off we'll all be trying to move forward " I get your point but come on as a leader he has been a myriad of hypocrisy. Drain the swamp, washkngton is a swamp, crooked Hilary a shill for Wall Street - yeah I agree, but then what do you get, his entire financial team are goldman sachs guys. The guys who fucked the American public over, us too, got bailed out and still fuck us over. Tax breaks, oh yeah a tax break - only if youre already wealthy though, who does the tax break effect, a small percent of US households..... And then yeah, he flirtd with the idea of medicare for all, a sander's policy, the shilled for big pharma and isurance firms. And yes, the Republican GOP has overall control of all 3 legislative branches, he cant get them all to agree of policies in unison to get them through - a leader in times of chaos who brings no uniformity to his party's policies. Much like our PM. God help trump if the Democrats actually start pushing real issues instead of Russia bullcrap in the run up to their local elections. | |||
"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. Seasoned businessman?! Hahahahaahahahahah He has bankrupted pretty much every business he has had, been charged and fined for money laundering. Been pumping up his clubs and hotels with his presidential status. Couldn’t even get a budget through even though his party controls all 3 legislative branches and has yet to actually pass any significant legislation. Oh and got the lowest presidential rating ever. Yeah. Seasoned. -Matt" ???? Matt, I’d love to be $1 behind him | |||
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"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. " well said; TAXES Trump and congressional Republicans delivered on an overhaul that substantially lowers corporate taxes and cuts personal income taxes, as promised. It's sizable but not everything Trump said it would be, and it is more tilted to the wealthy than he promised or will admit. He promised a 15 percent tax rate for corporations and settled for 21 percent, still a major drop from 35 percent . TRADE Trump made good on his promise to withdraw the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement and to reopen the North American Free Trade Agreement in search of a better deal. Trump promised to impose a 35 percent tariff on goods from U.S. companies that ship production abroad. He's not delivered on that. Instead, his tax plan aims to encourage companies to stay in the U.S. with the lower tax rate and to entice those operating abroad to come home by letting them repatriate their profits in the U.S. at a temporarily discounted rate. His approach so far is all carrot, no stick . IMMIGRATION He's now succeeded in banning the entry of citizens from several Muslim-majority countries and in severely curbing refugee admissions. He's tried to deny certain federal money for cities that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities Trump is now deep in negotiations over an immigration deal that could deliver on other promises, including money for the border wall with Mexico and overhauling the legal immigration system to make it harder for immigrants to sponsor their families. . ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT Trump promised aggressive action on the energy front and has pursued that. He announced his intention to take the U.S. out of the Paris climate-change accord. He gave swift approval to the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines stalled by President Barack Obama, moved to shrink protected national monument lands in Utah and Arizona, and acted to lift restrictions on mining coal and coastal drilling for oil and natural gas. A provision in the new tax law opens the long-protected Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling. As other countries turn harder toward green energy, Trump is making fossil fuels the centerpiece of his drive toward energy independence — a benchmark that Obama closed in on during an era of surging natural gas development . HEALTH CARE Probably nothing exemplifies frustrated ambition more than the Obama health law Republicans have been trying to dismantle ever since it was enacted in 2010. Trump has declared it dead many times — he just never got around to killing it but the time is ticking. Trump's "America First" ethic has been reflected in his pressure on member NATO countries to step up their own military spending, in his wariness of international accords and in the seeming drift from a diplomatic tradition of promoting U.S. democratic values abroad . INFRASTRUCTURE Trump pledged a $1 trillion effort to rebuild the country's airports, roads, bridges and other infrastructure. Perhaps we can all drive route 66 again. . Trump Donald J. Trump is the personification of the American dream. He is a true patriot and successful businessman. Every day, he offers ordinary Americans hope to make America greater than ever before. In the political field, he has been doing things that have never been done before. He has single handedly reshaped American politics forever and political analysts will be studying Trump's campaign and presidency many years from now Time to have him carved into Mount Rushmore perhaps. | |||
"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. well said; TAXES Trump and congressional Republicans delivered on an overhaul that substantially lowers corporate taxes and cuts personal income taxes, as promised. It's sizable but not everything Trump said it would be, and it is more tilted to the wealthy than he promised or will admit. He promised a 15 percent tax rate for corporations and settled for 21 percent, still a major drop from 35 percent . TRADE Trump made good on his promise to withdraw the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement and to reopen the North American Free Trade Agreement in search of a better deal. Trump promised to impose a 35 percent tariff on goods from U.S. companies that ship production abroad. He's not delivered on that. Instead, his tax plan aims to encourage companies to stay in the U.S. with the lower tax rate and to entice those operating abroad to come home by letting them repatriate their profits in the U.S. at a temporarily discounted rate. His approach so far is all carrot, no stick . IMMIGRATION He's now succeeded in banning the entry of citizens from several Muslim-majority countries and in severely curbing refugee admissions. He's tried to deny certain federal money for cities that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities Trump is now deep in negotiations over an immigration deal that could deliver on other promises, including money for the border wall with Mexico and overhauling the legal immigration system to make it harder for immigrants to sponsor their families. . ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT Trump promised aggressive action on the energy front and has pursued that. He announced his intention to take the U.S. out of the Paris climate-change accord. He gave swift approval to the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines stalled by President Barack Obama, moved to shrink protected national monument lands in Utah and Arizona, and acted to lift restrictions on mining coal and coastal drilling for oil and natural gas. A provision in the new tax law opens the long-protected Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling. As other countries turn harder toward green energy, Trump is making fossil fuels the centerpiece of his drive toward energy independence — a benchmark that Obama closed in on during an era of surging natural gas development . HEALTH CARE Probably nothing exemplifies frustrated ambition more than the Obama health law Republicans have been trying to dismantle ever since it was enacted in 2010. Trump has declared it dead many times — he just never got around to killing it but the time is ticking. Trump's "America First" ethic has been reflected in his pressure on member NATO countries to step up their own military spending, in his wariness of international accords and in the seeming drift from a diplomatic tradition of promoting U.S. democratic values abroad . INFRASTRUCTURE Trump pledged a $1 trillion effort to rebuild the country's airports, roads, bridges and other infrastructure. Perhaps we can all drive route 66 again. . Trump Donald J. Trump is the personification of the American dream. He is a true patriot and successful businessman. Every day, he offers ordinary Americans hope to make America greater than ever before. In the political field, he has been doing things that have never been done before. He has single handedly reshaped American politics forever and political analysts will be studying Trump's campaign and presidency many years from now Time to have him carved into Mount Rushmore perhaps." You forgot to say he’s a raciest like a lot of his followers | |||
"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. Seasoned businessman?! Hahahahaahahahahah He has bankrupted pretty much every business he has had, been charged and fined for money laundering. Been pumping up his clubs and hotels with his presidential status. Couldn’t even get a budget through even though his party controls all 3 legislative branches and has yet to actually pass any significant legislation. Oh and got the lowest presidential rating ever. Yeah. Seasoned. -Matt. So have HSBC I don't see you bitching about them on a daily basis?. Let's get one thing straight, trump ain't good, he's gonna screw everybody as much as he can.... Exactly the same as every fucking leader we've ever had and every major FTSE 100 company does on a daily basis... The only friggin difference is they give you some nice patter to stop you whinging on forums about racism or xenophobia or how triggered we all are about some tweet.... Let's cut the bullshit about how "different" anything would have been if only racists hadn't voted for trump. Trump is just another in a long line of manifestations of human nature. The system isn't fucked, its the people in the system that are fucked, the sooner we come to grips with that in an honest manner the better off we'll all be trying to move forward I get your point but come on as a leader he has been a myriad of hypocrisy. Drain the swamp, washkngton is a swamp, crooked Hilary a shill for Wall Street - yeah I agree, but then what do you get, his entire financial team are goldman sachs guys. The guys who fucked the American public over, us too, got bailed out and still fuck us over. Tax breaks, oh yeah a tax break - only if youre already wealthy though, who does the tax break effect, a small percent of US households..... And then yeah, he flirtd with the idea of medicare for all, a sander's policy, the shilled for big pharma and isurance firms. And yes, the Republican GOP has overall control of all 3 legislative branches, he cant get them all to agree of policies in unison to get them through - a leader in times of chaos who brings no uniformity to his party's policies. Much like our PM. God help trump if the Democrats actually start pushing real issues instead of Russia bullcrap in the run up to their local elections." . I agree with you completely, the democrats need to drop the corporate arm of the party and get back to issues that people really want. The real problem for democrats is everything they attack trump on comes back to bite them on their corporate arses and its two steps forward one step back. Theres folks in Illinois crying out for water pipes not social media witch hunts | |||
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"I think the way we talk on here ..everyone is racist... at least the don has got ball's.....oh no I'm sure I've upset another snowflake ...ps I support the darts walk on girls...if we ban them we nest take all woman sport off tv ....those outfits will offend someone .worlds gone mad" Its actually a strange phenomenon that racists think that everyone is really a racist but doesnt want to admit it for some reason. Its only 50 or 60 years ago that being openly racist was acceptable and if a majority still thought that way then it would still be acceptable. Unfortunately for you the vast majority of the people have moved on from your racist ideas. Its particularly stupid of you to be racist given that its not that long ago that Irish people were considered sub human, literally thought of as something less than a real person. Granted you probably dont have the education and intelligence to interrogate those ideas but Ill try and simplify it for you. Where people racist against africans for being sub human they said the same about the Irish. Where people complain about immigrants from poor countries arriving broke, poor and looking for work they used to criticise us for the same thing. Now people discriminate against Muslims for the terrorist acts of a few they used to do the same to us. (Hell I got a DM only last month from some enraged Scottish orangeman calling me a baby killer because Im Irish). Now I dont expect to change your mind with any of this, youre old, set in your ways and clearly not bright enough to be able to discuss this let alone form any kind of comprehensible or logical reply. But what I am pointing out (since you'll probably need it spelled out) is that no, most people arent racist like you think and that we look down on you as stupid and a relic from the days people thought leeches were a good cure for disease. | |||
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"I think the way we talk on here ..everyone is racist... at least the don has got ball's.....oh no I'm sure I've upset another snowflake ...ps I support the darts walk on girls...if we ban them we nest take all woman sport off tv ....those outfits will offend someone .worlds gone mad" Dinosaur | |||
"I think the way we talk on here ..everyone is racist... at least the don has got ball's.....oh no I'm sure I've upset another snowflake ...ps I support the darts walk on girls...if we ban them we nest take all woman sport off tv ....those outfits will offend someone .worlds gone mad" Filth | |||
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"Yup i must be thick.. Racist old ...but hey no worries I'm happy and love pulling ya chains...like little fish...love u all forgot to mention...very well educated...succesful bizz man and rich ...must be thick or look in mirror.. .it might be u" Calling bullshit on that given about 3 years ago you were whining about not getting the benefits you thought you were entitled to and the foreigners coming here (your words and even worse language too) we're being given everything.. Was the same time you thought it acceptable to machine gun any of 'them' crossing the channel.. Didnt you claim to be a long serving member of the army too.. Busy eh.. | |||
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"Yup i must be thick.. Racist old ...but hey no worries I'm happy and love pulling ya chains...like little fish...love u all forgot to mention...very well educated...succesful bizz man and rich ...must be thick or look in mirror.. .it might be u Calling bullshit on that given about 3 years ago you were whining about not getting the benefits you thought you were entitled to and the foreigners coming here (your words and even worse language too) we're being given everything.. Was the same time you thought it acceptable to machine gun any of 'them' crossing the channel.. Didnt you claim to be a long serving member of the army too.. Busy eh.. " Still making false statements about other's on the forum then, care to post a link to those comments? You made false statements about me on here a few weeks ago even when I posted links to other threads to prove you wrong you still didn't apologise. Then you made false statements about hotlovefun on another thread, to which he posted links which proved you wrong, but at least on that occasion you made a public apology to him. You are an absolute disgrace, given you now have a proven track record on making false statements about others now I don't see why anyone should believe a single word you say. | |||
"Yup i must be thick.. Racist old ...but hey no worries I'm happy and love pulling ya chains...like little fish...love u all forgot to mention...very well educated...succesful bizz man and rich ...must be thick or look in mirror.. .it might be u Calling bullshit on that given about 3 years ago you were whining about not getting the benefits you thought you were entitled to and the foreigners coming here (your words and even worse language too) we're being given everything.. Was the same time you thought it acceptable to machine gun any of 'them' crossing the channel.. Didnt you claim to be a long serving member of the army too.. Busy eh.. Still making false statements about other's on the forum then, care to post a link to those comments? You made false statements about me on here a few weeks ago even when I posted links to other threads to prove you wrong you still didn't apologise. Then you made false statements about hotlovefun on another thread, to which he posted links which proved you wrong, but at least on that occasion you made a public apology to him. You are an absolute disgrace, given you now have a proven track record on making false statements about others now I don't see why anyone should believe a single word you say. " No you didn't you said one thing then posted a link to something else.. As usual your lying but it's nothing new for you.. Track record my arse and coming from you that's funny, given your own postings.. BTW saying sorry for something one has gotten wrong is some thing you should try doing.. Mate you can fuck right off with calling anyone out on here, your nasty little racism is there for all to see so shove your Faux outrage where your values are... | |||
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"Yup i must be thick.. Racist old ...but hey no worries I'm happy and love pulling ya chains...like little fish...love u all forgot to mention...very well educated...succesful bizz man and rich ...must be thick or look in mirror.. .it might be u Calling bullshit on that given about 3 years ago you were whining about not getting the benefits you thought you were entitled to and the foreigners coming here (your words and even worse language too) we're being given everything.. Was the same time you thought it acceptable to machine gun any of 'them' crossing the channel.. Didnt you claim to be a long serving member of the army too.. Busy eh.. Still making false statements about other's on the forum then, care to post a link to those comments? You made false statements about me on here a few weeks ago even when I posted links to other threads to prove you wrong you still didn't apologise. Then you made false statements about hotlovefun on another thread, to which he posted links which proved you wrong, but at least on that occasion you made a public apology to him. You are an absolute disgrace, given you now have a proven track record on making false statements about others now I don't see why anyone should believe a single word you say. No you didn't you said one thing then posted a link to something else.. As usual your lying but it's nothing new for you.. Track record my arse and coming from you that's funny, given your own postings.. BTW saying sorry for something one has gotten wrong is some thing you should try doing.. Mate you can fuck right off with calling anyone out on here, your nasty little racism is there for all to see so shove your Faux outrage where your values are..." Ooo touched a nerve it seems, and I did post links which proved you'd made false statements about me, pity the thread closed because you were well and truly shown up! Your ass handed to you on a plate is about the size of it. | |||
"Yup i must be thick.. Racist old ...but hey no worries I'm happy and love pulling ya chains...like little fish...love u all forgot to mention...very well educated...succesful bizz man and rich ...must be thick or look in mirror.. .it might be u Calling bullshit on that given about 3 years ago you were whining about not getting the benefits you thought you were entitled to and the foreigners coming here (your words and even worse language too) we're being given everything.. Was the same time you thought it acceptable to machine gun any of 'them' crossing the channel.. Didnt you claim to be a long serving member of the army too.. Busy eh.. Still making false statements about other's on the forum then, care to post a link to those comments? You made false statements about me on here a few weeks ago even when I posted links to other threads to prove you wrong you still didn't apologise. Then you made false statements about hotlovefun on another thread, to which he posted links which proved you wrong, but at least on that occasion you made a public apology to him. You are an absolute disgrace, given you now have a proven track record on making false statements about others now I don't see why anyone should believe a single word you say. No you didn't you said one thing then posted a link to something else.. As usual your lying but it's nothing new for you.. Track record my arse and coming from you that's funny, given your own postings.. BTW saying sorry for something one has gotten wrong is some thing you should try doing.. Mate you can fuck right off with calling anyone out on here, your nasty little racism is there for all to see so shove your Faux outrage where your values are... Ooo touched a nerve it seems, and I did post links which proved you'd made false statements about me, pity the thread closed because you were well and truly shown up! Your ass handed to you on a plate is about the size of it. " You did post a link to a post that you had made later on but on the issue and many on here who have been part of 'debates' with you will attest to it that you hid like that other coward trump behind the phrase 'condemn all violence' in relation to Charlottesville but you ducked the issue of the murder by a vile racist using a car.. you have shown on here that your quick to scream outrage and condemn as do others whenever an IS or Taliban terrorist commits a cowardly act of murder but you go a bit quiet when the same vile cowardice is carried out by a white person of the far right.. arse's on plates..how old are you? | |||
"It concerns me that with really really big problems just around the corner we seem to be stuck on minor issues about wether or not trump is racist, how racist is he, how big are his hands, is his hair real, have your seen his latest tweet.... What about those dart girls oooooo and those F1 grid babes!!. When confronted with what seems unsolvable we often tend to argue about the trivial stuff. " Yup. Look up 'bikeshedding'. In a nutshell, you can have a town council meeting in which plans to build a nuclear power plant in the town get waved through without much thought, and the majority of the meeting is spent arguing the colour to paint the bike sheds. The theory is that some things a just too complex for people to understand and so they completely shut off from them. But the colour of bike sheds. They understand that, and they want their say dammit! It is what happened with Brexit too. The consequences of the UK leaving the EU were so wide and so complex and so many people's brains just shut down. But blue passports, they can understand an argument about that! Trump is slightly different, but a very obvious tactic of just throw so much outrageous random shit out there that people just can't cope with it any more. It gets normalised and then people just ignore it. As soon as something regarding his upcoming impeachment gets near, he goes off on one about something trivial and makes it into a big thing, just for distraction. -Matt | |||
"Yup i must be thick.. Racist old ...but hey no worries I'm happy and love pulling ya chains...like little fish...love u all forgot to mention...very well educated...succesful bizz man and rich ...must be thick or look in mirror.. .it might be u Calling bullshit on that given about 3 years ago you were whining about not getting the benefits you thought you were entitled to and the foreigners coming here (your words and even worse language too) we're being given everything.. Was the same time you thought it acceptable to machine gun any of 'them' crossing the channel.. Didnt you claim to be a long serving member of the army too.. Busy eh.. Still making false statements about other's on the forum then, care to post a link to those comments? You made false statements about me on here a few weeks ago even when I posted links to other threads to prove you wrong you still didn't apologise. Then you made false statements about hotlovefun on another thread, to which he posted links which proved you wrong, but at least on that occasion you made a public apology to him. You are an absolute disgrace, given you now have a proven track record on making false statements about others now I don't see why anyone should believe a single word you say. No you didn't you said one thing then posted a link to something else.. As usual your lying but it's nothing new for you.. Track record my arse and coming from you that's funny, given your own postings.. BTW saying sorry for something one has gotten wrong is some thing you should try doing.. Mate you can fuck right off with calling anyone out on here, your nasty little racism is there for all to see so shove your Faux outrage where your values are..." lol guess someone lost the plot there and spat the dummy | |||
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"A Republican-drafted memo alleging FBI bias against US President Donald Trump will be released on Friday, a senior White House official says. Mr Trump is expected to declassify the document and send it to Congress for release, according to US media. The FBI has voiced "grave concerns" about the release of the memo, which is expected to have redactions. It reportedly says the FBI misled an intelligence court to obtain a warrant to spy on the Trump election campaign. " Whoopi do | |||
"A Republican-drafted memo alleging FBI bias against US President Donald Trump will be released on Friday, a senior White House official says. Mr Trump is expected to declassify the document and send it to Congress for release, according to US media. The FBI has voiced "grave concerns" about the release of the memo, which is expected to have redactions. It reportedly says the FBI misled an intelligence court to obtain a warrant to spy on the Trump election campaign. " And a more objective account would have that the report has been altered after the cross party Committee saw it.. Altered by the republican chair.. | |||
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"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. " So, just for clarity, doing good is a bad thing? Also, just for clarity, how many times has Trump been bankrupt and how many times has he not paid his employees and suppliers? If you are unable to step up and justify your assertions then it appears that you have just believed what you've been told without checking it's veracity. That is the definition of foolish | |||
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"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. well said; TAXES Trump and congressional Republicans delivered on an overhaul that substantially lowers corporate taxes and cuts personal income taxes, as promised. It's sizable but not everything Trump said it would be, and it is more tilted to the wealthy than he promised or will admit. He promised a 15 percent tax rate for corporations and settled for 21 percent, still a major drop from 35 percent . TRADE Trump made good on his promise to withdraw the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement and to reopen the North American Free Trade Agreement in search of a better deal. Trump promised to impose a 35 percent tariff on goods from U.S. companies that ship production abroad. He's not delivered on that. Instead, his tax plan aims to encourage companies to stay in the U.S. with the lower tax rate and to entice those operating abroad to come home by letting them repatriate their profits in the U.S. at a temporarily discounted rate. His approach so far is all carrot, no stick . IMMIGRATION He's now succeeded in banning the entry of citizens from several Muslim-majority countries and in severely curbing refugee admissions. He's tried to deny certain federal money for cities that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities Trump is now deep in negotiations over an immigration deal that could deliver on other promises, including money for the border wall with Mexico and overhauling the legal immigration system to make it harder for immigrants to sponsor their families. . ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT Trump promised aggressive action on the energy front and has pursued that. He announced his intention to take the U.S. out of the Paris climate-change accord. He gave swift approval to the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines stalled by President Barack Obama, moved to shrink protected national monument lands in Utah and Arizona, and acted to lift restrictions on mining coal and coastal drilling for oil and natural gas. A provision in the new tax law opens the long-protected Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling. As other countries turn harder toward green energy, Trump is making fossil fuels the centerpiece of his drive toward energy independence — a benchmark that Obama closed in on during an era of surging natural gas development . HEALTH CARE Probably nothing exemplifies frustrated ambition more than the Obama health law Republicans have been trying to dismantle ever since it was enacted in 2010. Trump has declared it dead many times — he just never got around to killing it but the time is ticking. Trump's "America First" ethic has been reflected in his pressure on member NATO countries to step up their own military spending, in his wariness of international accords and in the seeming drift from a diplomatic tradition of promoting U.S. democratic values abroad . INFRASTRUCTURE Trump pledged a $1 trillion effort to rebuild the country's airports, roads, bridges and other infrastructure. Perhaps we can all drive route 66 again. . Trump Donald J. Trump is the personification of the American dream. He is a true patriot and successful businessman. Every day, he offers ordinary Americans hope to make America greater than ever before. In the political field, he has been doing things that have never been done before. He has single handedly reshaped American politics forever and political analysts will be studying Trump's campaign and presidency many years from now Time to have him carved into Mount Rushmore perhaps." So, sometimes I think that there is some vague logic and intelligence behind what you say. Bitter and selfish, but something. Then there are other times that I think, like Pat, that you are actually lonely and vulnerable because you are on here just to get some attention, and possibly a little senile because you might believe the stuff you hear I'm sure that you will now state with absolute conviction how wealthy and important and loved you are...which raises its own questions. Taxes Bonanza for the wealthy and.big corporations so that it "trickles down" to the poor. Of no direct benefit to Trump and his family whatsoever. Trade Everything will cost more in the US and choice and innovation will be curtailed. Energy and the Environment Dirty water, dirty air, dirty land. New coastal real estate when waters rise after he (and you) have gone. More money for the wealthy now though. China wants green energy. China will win and the USA will be tied to old technology. Kodak. Healthcare Earlier death and debilitating if you're poor. NATO No problem with expecting payment. However, an unreliable ally is not an ally. Leadership surrendered. Infrastructure Obama also pledged the money but was blocked by partisan politics. The country has already Vern shut down in his first year... If the American dream is being born the son of a millionaire, being a crooked businessman, dodging the draft, reneging on deals, lying, disrespecting women and being racist...then yep. He is what everyone should aspire to. I mean, who'd want their children to aspire to being a nurse or doctor or scientist or teacher or carer. Fools. | |||
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"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all " remember this all started as a republican document that the democrats then ran with! if you are talking about the nunes memo.... i would save the grinning quite yet... what has been released is the republican version of the memo.... which they released unclassified after being given the ok by the president... the democrats on the committee haven't actually seen this version as nunes wouldn't show it to them..... so the democrats have actually produced their version....and we are waiting to see if the president will also allow that version to be released... also..... 1)the democrats on the committee are saying they have seen all the documents, but the memo doesn't tell all the story and/or represent all the documents 2) the republicans on the committee have voted against the democrats having a rebuttal to this.... 3) the house intelligence committee have refused to share this information with the senate intelligence committee (which is still working on a bi-partisan basis..) as we are saying at the moment is one side of a story where politicans have gone against the recommendation of the FBI and the DOJ (both of which have trump appointees at the top of them) this is a political reports which is basically trying to smear the top people at the FBI (basically at this point rod rosenstein) to try and get rid of them to then get to mueller..... | |||
"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all remember this all started as a republican document that the democrats then ran with! if you are talking about the nunes memo.... i would save the grinning quite yet... what has been released is the republican version of the memo.... which they released unclassified after being given the ok by the president... the democrats on the committee haven't actually seen this version as nunes wouldn't show it to them..... so the democrats have actually produced their version....and we are waiting to see if the president will also allow that version to be released... also..... 1)the democrats on the committee are saying they have seen all the documents, but the memo doesn't tell all the story and/or represent all the documents 2) the republicans on the committee have voted against the democrats having a rebuttal to this.... 3) the house intelligence committee have refused to share this information with the senate intelligence committee (which is still working on a bi-partisan basis..) as we are saying at the moment is one side of a story where politicans have gone against the recommendation of the FBI and the DOJ (both of which have trump appointees at the top of them) this is a political reports which is basically trying to smear the top people at the FBI (basically at this point rod rosenstein) to try and get rid of them to then get to mueller..... " well done Fabio, your quick off the draw, nice pick up | |||
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"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all " I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" | |||
"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. So, just for clarity, doing good is a bad thing? Also, just for clarity, how many times has Trump been bankrupt and how many times has he not paid his employees and suppliers? If you are unable to step up and justify your assertions then it appears that you have just believed what you've been told without checking it's veracity. That is the definition of foolish " Still unable to actually answer with any actual information, alternate or otherwise? | |||
"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" " lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker | |||
"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker" I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason | |||
"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason " not only that, I also have my own personnel pathetic stalker | |||
"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason " Best description I’ve seen! -Matt | |||
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"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason not only that, I also have my own personnel pathetic stalker " Excellent comeback. Witty and eloquent. Yes, I am mocking you again | |||
"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason not only that, I also have my own personnel pathetic stalker Excellent comeback. Witty and eloquent. Yes, I am mocking you again " no son, your hiding behind a keyboard | |||
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"Let's get back to governments being allowed to spy on its own citizens through bullshit politically bought evidence hey!. . Come on, own up, who knows a Russian?" I've fucked a few.. | |||
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"Let's get back to governments being allowed to spy on its own citizens through bullshit politically bought evidence hey!. . Come on, own up, who knows a Russian? I've fucked a few.. " . I came close....I say close, she was Hungarian | |||
"Let's get back to governments being allowed to spy on its own citizens through bullshit politically bought evidence hey!. . Come on, own up, who knows a Russian? I've fucked a few.. . I came close....I say close, she was Hungarian " Anything behind the former iron curtain is close enough. | |||
"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason not only that, I also have my own personnel pathetic stalker Excellent comeback. Witty and eloquent. Yes, I am mocking you again no son, your hiding behind a keyboard" No. I will answer a question as best as I can and will try to at least understand another person's point of view even if I disagree with them. I only call you out what you fail to respond. I guess you've arranged your life in such a way that you aren't often questioned which makes this situation unfamiliar and scary. So, back on topic. If you don't like the use of graphs, numbers or data, what do you base your assertions on? | |||
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"I'm in favour of the press publishing the shit our governments get upto.... Whoever it may be!" I agree. Corporations too. That's what the press is actually for. Not long lens photos of topless celebrities. I'm not sure that's altogether controversial, except if you put it in the context of Trump or China. We are now desperate to be best buddies with both of them... | |||
"I'm in favour of the press publishing the shit our governments get upto.... Whoever it may be! I agree. Corporations too. That's what the press is actually for. Not long lens photos of topless celebrities. I'm not sure that's altogether controversial, except if you put it in the context of Trump or China. We are now desperate to be best buddies with both of them..." . That's the one thing I like about trump. People are looking!. My big problem with with well speaking good looking liberals is they tend to turn a blind eye | |||
"I'm in favour of the press publishing the shit our governments get upto.... Whoever it may be! I agree. Corporations too. That's what the press is actually for. Not long lens photos of topless celebrities. I'm not sure that's altogether controversial, except if you put it in the context of Trump or China. We are now desperate to be best buddies with both of them.... That's the one thing I like about trump. People are looking!. My big problem with with well speaking good looking liberals is they tend to turn a blind eye" I'm not following. If the most useful function of the press, liberal or otherwise, is to hold power to account, then Trump undermining it's legitimacy and trying to create his own alternate "truth" - like the Chinese or Russian states, doesn't seem to be a positive step... | |||
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"I'm in favour of the press publishing the shit our governments get upto.... Whoever it may be! I agree. Corporations too. That's what the press is actually for. Not long lens photos of topless celebrities. I'm not sure that's altogether controversial, except if you put it in the context of Trump or China. We are now desperate to be best buddies with both of them.... That's the one thing I like about trump. People are looking!. My big problem with with well speaking good looking liberals is they tend to turn a blind eye I'm not following. If the most useful function of the press, liberal or otherwise, is to hold power to account, then Trump undermining it's legitimacy and trying to create his own alternate "truth" - like the Chinese or Russian states, doesn't seem to be a positive step..." . I don't want anybody to undermine law and order, that includes trump or the DOJ or the FBI!. | |||
"I'm in favour of the press publishing the shit our governments get upto.... Whoever it may be! I agree. Corporations too. That's what the press is actually for. Not long lens photos of topless celebrities. I'm not sure that's altogether controversial, except if you put it in the context of Trump or China. We are now desperate to be best buddies with both of them.... That's the one thing I like about trump. People are looking!. My big problem with with well speaking good looking liberals is they tend to turn a blind eye I'm not following. If the most useful function of the press, liberal or otherwise, is to hold power to account, then Trump undermining it's legitimacy and trying to create his own alternate "truth" - like the Chinese or Russian states, doesn't seem to be a positive step.... I don't want anybody to undermine law and order, that includes trump or the DOJ or the FBI!. " Fair enough, but what are the circumstances under which a fair judgment can be made about this? Who makes that judgement? | |||
"I'm in favour of the press publishing the shit our governments get upto.... Whoever it may be! I agree. Corporations too. That's what the press is actually for. Not long lens photos of topless celebrities. I'm not sure that's altogether controversial, except if you put it in the context of Trump or China. We are now desperate to be best buddies with both of them.... That's the one thing I like about trump. People are looking!. My big problem with with well speaking good looking liberals is they tend to turn a blind eye I'm not following. If the most useful function of the press, liberal or otherwise, is to hold power to account, then Trump undermining it's legitimacy and trying to create his own alternate "truth" - like the Chinese or Russian states, doesn't seem to be a positive step.... I don't want anybody to undermine law and order, that includes trump or the DOJ or the FBI!. Fair enough, but what are the circumstances under which a fair judgment can be made about this? Who makes that judgement?" . Well that's the real problem without an unbiased press. Its not like you can't blame them, they like all the rest of us had really had enough of Bush and then we get a charismatic good looking well speaking black guy, hooray, alas we let him get away with far too much!, stuff that trump certainty wouldn't have got away with | |||
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"Let's get back to governments being allowed to spy on its own citizens through bullshit politically bought evidence hey!. . Come on, own up, who knows a Russian?" but the original thing that started the fbi looking wasn't the steele dossier... in the memo it confirms it was the australian government who told the FBI that people were saying the russians had dirt on clinton...... and carter page had been looked at earlier by the fbi for possible involvement with the russians.... | |||
"I love the way he pisses of the media and the Do Gooders . Walls,Racist,Emigration,Shitholes etc . I said it from day one he will be the best President of all times . Now away ye go and bitch away but the Yanks have got it right voting in a extremely seasoned business man to get the States rocking in a short time. Well done President Trump. well said; TAXES Trump and congressional Republicans delivered on an overhaul that substantially lowers corporate taxes and cuts personal income taxes, as promised. It's sizable but not everything Trump said it would be, and it is more tilted to the wealthy than he promised or will admit. He promised a 15 percent tax rate for corporations and settled for 21 percent, still a major drop from 35 percent . TRADE Trump made good on his promise to withdraw the U.S. from the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement and to reopen the North American Free Trade Agreement in search of a better deal. Trump promised to impose a 35 percent tariff on goods from U.S. companies that ship production abroad. He's not delivered on that. Instead, his tax plan aims to encourage companies to stay in the U.S. with the lower tax rate and to entice those operating abroad to come home by letting them repatriate their profits in the U.S. at a temporarily discounted rate. His approach so far is all carrot, no stick . IMMIGRATION He's now succeeded in banning the entry of citizens from several Muslim-majority countries and in severely curbing refugee admissions. He's tried to deny certain federal money for cities that refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities Trump is now deep in negotiations over an immigration deal that could deliver on other promises, including money for the border wall with Mexico and overhauling the legal immigration system to make it harder for immigrants to sponsor their families. . ENERGY AND THE ENVIRONMENT Trump promised aggressive action on the energy front and has pursued that. He announced his intention to take the U.S. out of the Paris climate-change accord. He gave swift approval to the Keystone XL and Dakota Access pipelines stalled by President Barack Obama, moved to shrink protected national monument lands in Utah and Arizona, and acted to lift restrictions on mining coal and coastal drilling for oil and natural gas. A provision in the new tax law opens the long-protected Arctic National Wildlife Refuge to drilling. As other countries turn harder toward green energy, Trump is making fossil fuels the centerpiece of his drive toward energy independence — a benchmark that Obama closed in on during an era of surging natural gas development . HEALTH CARE Probably nothing exemplifies frustrated ambition more than the Obama health law Republicans have been trying to dismantle ever since it was enacted in 2010. Trump has declared it dead many times — he just never got around to killing it but the time is ticking. Trump's "America First" ethic has been reflected in his pressure on member NATO countries to step up their own military spending, in his wariness of international accords and in the seeming drift from a diplomatic tradition of promoting U.S. democratic values abroad . INFRASTRUCTURE Trump pledged a $1 trillion effort to rebuild the country's airports, roads, bridges and other infrastructure. Perhaps we can all drive route 66 again. . Trump Donald J. Trump is the personification of the American dream. He is a true patriot and successful businessman. Every day, he offers ordinary Americans hope to make America greater than ever before. In the political field, he has been doing things that have never been done before. He has single handedly reshaped American politics forever and political analysts will be studying Trump's campaign and presidency many years from now Time to have him carved into Mount Rushmore perhaps." Nice cut and paste, have you got anything in your head that didn't originate in the Daily Fail or the National Enquiror? The man is a proven liar, a serial bankrupt, a con artist and fantasist. | |||
"Let's get back to governments being allowed to spy on its own citizens through bullshit politically bought evidence hey!. . Come on, own up, who knows a Russian? but the original thing that started the fbi looking wasn't the steele dossier... in the memo it confirms it was the australian government who told the FBI that people were saying the russians had dirt on clinton...... and carter page had been looked at earlier by the fbi for possible involvement with the russians...." . I don't like secret courts and I don't like secret services... Truth be known I just don't like secrets. Carter page is as far as I've heard completely innocent, to get fisa permission they allege he was a foreign agent!!... We all know why the secret services admittedly don't like trump and didn't want him elected and it's got nothing to do with trump being a tit or a racist or even an oligarch.... He didn't seem willing to go along with the MIC, all those pre election speeches of getting out of foreign wars just like Bernie Sanders means the deep state will make sure they do everything to make sure you don't get elected | |||
"We all put too much faith in politicans to solve shit, the reality is politicans can only invoke laws, there not going to fix racism or sexism or xenophobia or trans gender issues, there evolutionary societal problems. So let's concentrate on what they can fix, housing, NHS, infrastructure.... Stop invading Libya or Syria, I mean this comes back to mind about what I said earlier (which I was derided for from Matt) about Calais and refugees, the Iraq invasion, nobody in the UK wanted it, a million people marched against it and yet only a few years later the government was trying to invade Syria and then bomb Libya, the vast majority of the UK are not interested in bombing or invading these countries just like there not interested in Thais, Vietnamese, Eritreans and Ghanians claiming refugees status, the majority of people know it's bollocks and yet no government left or right is willing to act on it..... There's an underlying agenda through the press on everything from wars to immigration to trade deals and that's why we get brexit and trump." What's the agenda? I don't see one particularly, what do you see? | |||
"We all put too much faith in politicans to solve shit, the reality is politicans can only invoke laws, there not going to fix racism or sexism or xenophobia or trans gender issues, there evolutionary societal problems. So let's concentrate on what they can fix, housing, NHS, infrastructure.... Stop invading Libya or Syria, I mean this comes back to mind about what I said earlier (which I was derided for from Matt) about Calais and refugees, the Iraq invasion, nobody in the UK wanted it, a million people marched against it and yet only a few years later the government was trying to invade Syria and then bomb Libya, the vast majority of the UK are not interested in bombing or invading these countries just like there not interested in Thais, Vietnamese, Eritreans and Ghanians claiming refugees status, the majority of people know it's bollocks and yet no government left or right is willing to act on it..... There's an underlying agenda through the press on everything from wars to immigration to trade deals and that's why we get brexit and trump. What's the agenda? I don't see one particularly, what do you see?" . The agenda is the press pretty much just go along with everything any neo liberal politican does, I get that nobody wants the right wing gaining from exposing the failures of liberals but come on... Could you imagine the headlines if trump let off BP like Obama did for the gulf disaster! Or if trump had made the decisions that Hillary made on Libya, actually no, that's the one thing trump doesnt get pulled up on, silly tweets make massive headlines, bombing Syria, threatening North Korea, pushing back into Afghanistan he gets away with... Coincidence? | |||
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"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason not only that, I also have my own personnel pathetic stalker " I've noticed that you've Fab'd some of my photos. I understand that I am attractive to a certain male demographic, which is quite flattering, but I don't think that this is why you have. I get the impression that this is some attempt to intimidate or bully me off the forum. Strangely enough, Centaur did this a while ago too. It doesn't bother me at all. I am concerned that if you are behaving this way with other people they may well feel creeped out. I'm calling you out. Again. Debate in here with some actual reasoned thought and data. Put up or shut up | |||
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"We all put too much faith in politicans to solve shit, the reality is politicans can only invoke laws, there not going to fix racism or sexism or xenophobia or trans gender issues, there evolutionary societal problems. So let's concentrate on what they can fix, housing, NHS, infrastructure.... Stop invading Libya or Syria, I mean this comes back to mind about what I said earlier (which I was derided for from Matt) about Calais and refugees, the Iraq invasion, nobody in the UK wanted it, a million people marched against it and yet only a few years later the government was trying to invade Syria and then bomb Libya, the vast majority of the UK are not interested in bombing or invading these countries just like there not interested in Thais, Vietnamese, Eritreans and Ghanians claiming refugees status, the majority of people know it's bollocks and yet no government left or right is willing to act on it..... There's an underlying agenda through the press on everything from wars to immigration to trade deals and that's why we get brexit and trump. What's the agenda? I don't see one particularly, what do you see?. The agenda is the press pretty much just go along with everything any neo liberal politican does, I get that nobody wants the right wing gaining from exposing the failures of liberals but come on... Could you imagine the headlines if trump let off BP like Obama did for the gulf disaster! Or if trump had made the decisions that Hillary made on Libya, actually no, that's the one thing trump doesnt get pulled up on, silly tweets make massive headlines, bombing Syria, threatening North Korea, pushing back into Afghanistan he gets away with... Coincidence?" There are very few good decisions that can be made in politics. Everything is a crap compromise because there is never enough money or information or time to make the optimum choice. The problem with the press isn't liberal bias. The main problem is that it's proliferation has led to an endless demand for shallow "news" grazing. This has led to the view that the world is a horrible place and everyone's life is miserable and everyone's life is miserable. Decide not to be a chimp Hans and Ola Rosling: How not to be ignorant about the world http://go.ted.com/bbmD1Q | |||
"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason not only that, I also have my own personnel pathetic stalker I've noticed that you've Fab'd some of my photos. I understand that I am attractive to a certain male demographic, which is quite flattering, but I don't think that this is why you have. I get the impression that this is some attempt to intimidate or bully me off the forum. Strangely enough, Centaur did this a while ago too. It doesn't bother me at all. I am concerned that if you are behaving this way with other people they may well feel creeped out. I'm calling you out. Again. Debate in here with some actual reasoned thought and data. Put up or shut up " KBW, you got 3 words correct, well done | |||
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"We all put too much faith in politicans to solve shit, the reality is politicans can only invoke laws, there not going to fix racism or sexism or xenophobia or trans gender issues, there evolutionary societal problems. So let's concentrate on what they can fix, housing, NHS, infrastructure.... Stop invading Libya or Syria, I mean this comes back to mind about what I said earlier (which I was derided for from Matt) about Calais and refugees, the Iraq invasion, nobody in the UK wanted it, a million people marched against it and yet only a few years later the government was trying to invade Syria and then bomb Libya, the vast majority of the UK are not interested in bombing or invading these countries just like there not interested in Thais, Vietnamese, Eritreans and Ghanians claiming refugees status, the majority of people know it's bollocks and yet no government left or right is willing to act on it..... There's an underlying agenda through the press on everything from wars to immigration to trade deals and that's why we get brexit and trump. What's the agenda? I don't see one particularly, what do you see?. The agenda is the press pretty much just go along with everything any neo liberal politican does, I get that nobody wants the right wing gaining from exposing the failures of liberals but come on... Could you imagine the headlines if trump let off BP like Obama did for the gulf disaster! Or if trump had made the decisions that Hillary made on Libya, actually no, that's the one thing trump doesnt get pulled up on, silly tweets make massive headlines, bombing Syria, threatening North Korea, pushing back into Afghanistan he gets away with... Coincidence? There are very few good decisions that can be made in politics. Everything is a crap compromise because there is never enough money or information or time to make the optimum choice. The problem with the press isn't liberal bias. The main problem is that it's proliferation has led to an endless demand for shallow "news" grazing. This has led to the view that the world is a horrible place and everyone's life is miserable and everyone's life is miserable. Decide not to be a chimp Hans and Ola Rosling: How not to be ignorant about the world http://go.ted.com/bbmD1Q " . I get your point but I said in 08 thered be prolific consequences for bailing out those banks and what I see today is those ripples, it undermined societal foundations | |||
"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason not only that, I also have my own personnel pathetic stalker I've noticed that you've Fab'd some of my photos. I understand that I am attractive to a certain male demographic, which is quite flattering, but I don't think that this is why you have. I get the impression that this is some attempt to intimidate or bully me off the forum. Strangely enough, Centaur did this a while ago too. It doesn't bother me at all. I am concerned that if you are behaving this way with other people they may well feel creeped out. I'm calling you out. Again. Debate in here with some actual reasoned thought and data. Put up or shut up KBW, you got 3 words correct, well done " Excellent. I don't even know what the acronym means but I'm sure it was a decisive argument. Mwah! | |||
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"Hillary Clinton might be going to jail after all I've noticed a trend that you never answer directly when your challenged. Some bluster and name calling, but never a rebuttal with any information. Oh yes, it's because you don't like playing other people's "games" lol, your all trends and graphs, ehh what an exciting life nice to have my very own little stalker I know. Who needs to think when you "know"? People like you interest me in the same way a decaying animal does. Kind of repulsive, but there's a lot of interesting stuff going on which might allow me to get a better understanding of the world. The difference is, if I spent some time looking at a rotting corpse I'd discover a lot. Unfortunately with you it turns out there's nothing there. You've never been able to articulate any of your positions or provide any information beyond the most superficial newspaper headlines. Just noisiness. You are not trying to persuade or educate. You seem unable to engage beyond, trying to bully, taunt or provoke people. You aren't that special though. Centaur functions in a similar way to you and I treat him in much the same way. Bless you rich, old white man who doesn't like foreigners much and who's hero is Trump for some reason not only that, I also have my own personnel pathetic stalker I've noticed that you've Fab'd some of my photos. I understand that I am attractive to a certain male demographic, which is quite flattering, but I don't think that this is why you have. I get the impression that this is some attempt to intimidate or bully me off the forum. Strangely enough, Centaur did this a while ago too. It doesn't bother me at all. I am concerned that if you are behaving this way with other people they may well feel creeped out. I'm calling you out. Again. Debate in here with some actual reasoned thought and data. Put up or shut up KBW, you got 3 words correct, well done Excellent. I don't even know what the acronym means but I'm sure it was a decisive argument. Mwah! " I am sure someone will enlighten you as to KBW. and your 3 words, you said "I don't think" | |||
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"isn't it a bit rich for you to call anyone a keyboard warrior when you in fact go out and bully and intimidate people.......... sorry... just thinking out loud...." nope, I am more than happy to meet anyone, including yourself Fabio, I have offered to meet up with you in the past if you recall. | |||
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" you think some just don't want to work?" Can you back that up with any evidence that isnt anecdotal? And the US unemployment figures only include people actively looking for work which would mean that the 7.7% are trying to get work. | |||
"The unemployment rate for US black workers jumped to 7.7% last month, reversing course after falling to a record low in December. The new figures were a potentially awkward turn of events for President Donald Trump, who has bragged repeatedly about the decline. Job gains in 2017 pushed the black unemployment rate down in December to 6.8%. While that was the lowest rate since the US started tracking the figure in 1972, it remained by far the highest of racial groups. The national unemployment rate has fallen 60% since 2009 to 4.1% - a level not seen since the start of the century. The white unemployment rate was 3.7% in December, while it hovered at 2.5% for Asians and at 4.9% for Hispanic and Latinos The January rate of 7.7% among black workers was the highest since April. (The unemployment rate for white workers, however, edged lower to 3.5%.) The black unemployment rate has been roughly double that of the white rate for decades you think some just don't want to work?" The point is still what Trump has done to influence any of this? You quoted a fall in unemployment from 2009. All your other information is for one time point. You might have to look at one of those nerdy graphs to understand if your hero has actually influenced anything | |||
"The unemployment rate for US black workers jumped to 7.7% last month, reversing course after falling to a record low in December. The new figures were a potentially awkward turn of events for President Donald Trump, who has bragged repeatedly about the decline. Job gains in 2017 pushed the black unemployment rate down in December to 6.8%. While that was the lowest rate since the US started tracking the figure in 1972, it remained by far the highest of racial groups. The national unemployment rate has fallen 60% since 2009 to 4.1% - a level not seen since the start of the century. The white unemployment rate was 3.7% in December, while it hovered at 2.5% for Asians and at 4.9% for Hispanic and Latinos The January rate of 7.7% among black workers was the highest since April. (The unemployment rate for white workers, however, edged lower to 3.5%.) The black unemployment rate has been roughly double that of the white rate for decades you think some just don't want to work? The point is still what Trump has done to influence any of this? You quoted a fall in unemployment from 2009. All your other information is for one time point. You might have to look at one of those nerdy graphs to understand if your hero has actually influenced anything " with the last 5 years working in control room, I have had enough of graphs, temps/pressures/levels to see my lifetime out living the good life now my son, don't really need a graph to tell me if my chickens are slowing down in egg production, a graph wont tell me if the deer I have shot has infection either I did receive a nice supplementation award of 4.6% to my pension today in the mail though and again that was in letter form, no graph will leave the graphs for you, as well as the suit & tie, keep trying to look smart and fit in my son. | |||
" you think some just don't want to work? Can you back that up with any evidence that isnt anecdotal? And the US unemployment figures only include people actively looking for work which would mean that the 7.7% are trying to get work." he's engaging in being lazy and flippant....again if cask knew anything (which he doesn't but he likes to spout anyway) then he would know that historically throughout the report black unemployment has been about 3% higher than white counterparts.... and it as well he likes to take credit... but forgets to tell people that unemployment figures has decreased in every month since march 2012........ | |||
"The unemployment rate for US black workers jumped to 7.7% last month, reversing course after falling to a record low in December. The new figures were a potentially awkward turn of events for President Donald Trump, who has bragged repeatedly about the decline. Job gains in 2017 pushed the black unemployment rate down in December to 6.8%. While that was the lowest rate since the US started tracking the figure in 1972, it remained by far the highest of racial groups. The national unemployment rate has fallen 60% since 2009 to 4.1% - a level not seen since the start of the century. The white unemployment rate was 3.7% in December, while it hovered at 2.5% for Asians and at 4.9% for Hispanic and Latinos The January rate of 7.7% among black workers was the highest since April. (The unemployment rate for white workers, however, edged lower to 3.5%.) The black unemployment rate has been roughly double that of the white rate for decades you think some just don't want to work? The point is still what Trump has done to influence any of this? You quoted a fall in unemployment from 2009. All your other information is for one time point. You might have to look at one of those nerdy graphs to understand if your hero has actually influenced anything with the last 5 years working in control room, I have had enough of graphs, temps/pressures/levels to see my lifetime out living the good life now my son, don't really need a graph to tell me if my chickens are slowing down in egg production, a graph wont tell me if the deer I have shot has infection either I did receive a nice supplementation award of 4.6% to my pension today in the mail though and again that was in letter form, no graph will leave the graphs for you, as well as the suit & tie, keep trying to look smart and fit in my son. " Yawn. More bragging and still empty of content. Every time you do this you make your assertions less and less credible. Enjoy your isolation, and no, I'm not interested in how popular you are now going to claim that you are | |||
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"The unemployment rate for US black workers jumped to 7.7% last month, reversing course after falling to a record low in December. The new figures were a potentially awkward turn of events for President Donald Trump, who has bragged repeatedly about the decline. Job gains in 2017 pushed the black unemployment rate down in December to 6.8%. While that was the lowest rate since the US started tracking the figure in 1972, it remained by far the highest of racial groups. The national unemployment rate has fallen 60% since 2009 to 4.1% - a level not seen since the start of the century. The white unemployment rate was 3.7% in December, while it hovered at 2.5% for Asians and at 4.9% for Hispanic and Latinos The January rate of 7.7% among black workers was the highest since April. (The unemployment rate for white workers, however, edged lower to 3.5%.) The black unemployment rate has been roughly double that of the white rate for decades you think some just don't want to work? The point is still what Trump has done to influence any of this? You quoted a fall in unemployment from 2009. All your other information is for one time point. You might have to look at one of those nerdy graphs to understand if your hero has actually influenced anything with the last 5 years working in control room, I have had enough of graphs, temps/pressures/levels to see my lifetime out living the good life now my son, don't really need a graph to tell me if my chickens are slowing down in egg production, a graph wont tell me if the deer I have shot has infection either I did receive a nice supplementation award of 4.6% to my pension today in the mail though and again that was in letter form, no graph will leave the graphs for you, as well as the suit & tie, keep trying to look smart and fit in my son. Yawn. More bragging and still empty of content. Every time you do this you make your assertions less and less credible. Enjoy your isolation, and no, I'm not interested in how popular you are now going to claim that you are " eh yes you are son, that's why you continue to reply time after time, you are easier than fishing | |||
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"The good news is the Stock Market is going in the correct direction " after the biggest single day loss in nearly 2 years on friday...... p.s.... dows down another 350 today so .... so that would be down 1,000 points (or basically 4%) since thursday..... | |||
"The unemployment rate for US black workers jumped to 7.7% last month, reversing course after falling to a record low in December. The new figures were a potentially awkward turn of events for President Donald Trump, who has bragged repeatedly about the decline. Job gains in 2017 pushed the black unemployment rate down in December to 6.8%. While that was the lowest rate since the US started tracking the figure in 1972, it remained by far the highest of racial groups. The national unemployment rate has fallen 60% since 2009 to 4.1% - a level not seen since the start of the century. The white unemployment rate was 3.7% in December, while it hovered at 2.5% for Asians and at 4.9% for Hispanic and Latinos The January rate of 7.7% among black workers was the highest since April. (The unemployment rate for white workers, however, edged lower to 3.5%.) The black unemployment rate has been roughly double that of the white rate for decades you think some just don't want to work? The point is still what Trump has done to influence any of this? You quoted a fall in unemployment from 2009. All your other information is for one time point. You might have to look at one of those nerdy graphs to understand if your hero has actually influenced anything with the last 5 years working in control room, I have had enough of graphs, temps/pressures/levels to see my lifetime out living the good life now my son, don't really need a graph to tell me if my chickens are slowing down in egg production, a graph wont tell me if the deer I have shot has infection either I did receive a nice supplementation award of 4.6% to my pension today in the mail though and again that was in letter form, no graph will leave the graphs for you, as well as the suit & tie, keep trying to look smart and fit in my son. Yawn. More bragging and still empty of content. Every time you do this you make your assertions less and less credible. Enjoy your isolation, and no, I'm not interested in how popular you are now going to claim that you are eh yes you are son, that's why you continue to reply time after time, you are easier than fishing" No. It seems that you are still unable to provide any information to back up anything that you say. An attempt to patronise me and a playground challenge is just another way to try to shut people down. You really are quite a manipulative bully. Why do you do it? Anyway, the data has been posted and it's clear that Trump has had no effect on any of the economic data yet except for stock market valuations which are based more on sentiment and rumours than company value. If Cask, or the OP, or anyone else is able to indicate a link between a Trump policy and any economic data other than the DOW that might be interesting. Otherwise, meh. Just noise | |||
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"The good news is the Stock Market is going in the correct direction after the biggest single day loss in nearly 2 years on friday...... p.s.... dows down another 350 today so .... so that would be down 1,000 points (or basically 4%) since thursday..... " did i say down 350 today..... make that down 500 if you are going to say this kinda stuff, least dont say it at the start of maybe a "correction" in the market...... | |||
" If Cask, or the OP, or anyone else is able to indicate a link between a Trump policy and any economic data other than the DOW that might be interesting. Otherwise, meh. Just noise " Tourism numbers? That sector of the economy has been affected by Trump. Consecutive years of incoming tourist numbers and then a drop when Trump becomes President. | |||
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"The good news is the Stock Market is going in the correct direction after the biggest single day loss in nearly 2 years on friday...... p.s.... dows down another 350 today so .... so that would be down 1,000 points (or basically 4%) since thursday..... did i say down 350 today..... make that down 500 if you are going to say this kinda stuff, least dont say it at the start of maybe a "correction" in the market......" exactly, as I said "good news" returning to reality Hopefully Interest rates will start to rise | |||
"UK - down 6.2% Mexico - down 9.4% China - down 10.6% The United States lost $2.7 billion in tourist revenue in the first three months of 2017 over the same period in 2016. Spain is now forecast to overtake the United States and become the second most visited country in the world. " yeh, like there is so much to see in Spain, I will leave Spain for the losers in life | |||
"easy... did i read that rare fabbed your pics.... he did the same to me yesterday" Yes. I assume that it's an attempt at intimidation, but it could be some sort of obsession. Certainly odd. Is Trump tweeting about the stock market? | |||
"easy... did i read that rare fabbed your pics.... he did the same to me yesterday Yes. I assume that it's an attempt at intimidation, but it could be some sort of obsession. Certainly odd. Is Trump tweeting about the stock market?" not today... its normally his favourite subject.... | |||
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"The good news is the Stock Market is going in the correct direction " but i though you had stocks and shares and you were lauding it... so.... 667 loss on friday, plus 1178 loss today...... so thats 1845 in two day... or 8% in two days... oooh thats going to mess with your pension!!!! | |||
"Is Trump tweeting about the stock market? not today... its normally his favourite subject...." ... same thing goes for Pat | |||
"The good news is the Stock Market is going in the correct direction but i though you had stocks and shares and you were lauding it... so.... 667 loss on friday, plus 1178 loss today...... so thats 1845 in two day... or 8% in two days... oooh thats going to mess with your pension!!!! " No. Shares will have been cashed in if pension is being collected Like everything else it's a source of pleasure for him that he's got lucky whilst others pay. He'll also take credit for that luck. Remind you of anyone? | |||
"The good news is the Stock Market is going in the correct direction but i though you had stocks and shares and you were lauding it... so.... 667 loss on friday, plus 1178 loss today...... so thats 1845 in two day... or 8% in two days... oooh thats going to mess with your pension!!!! " How in hell will it mess with my pension!!! I already receive my pension and ive just had a discretionary supplementation award of 4.6% Oil company pensions are well protected and this is just a tiny dip, guess you forget the thread many moons back when I said "by at 4000" so eh no, no oooooohs at all but perhaps yahoo's as interest rates may start to head up | |||
"The good news is the Stock Market is going in the correct direction but i though you had stocks and shares and you were lauding it... so.... 667 loss on friday, plus 1178 loss today...... so thats 1845 in two day... or 8% in two days... oooh thats going to mess with your pension!!!! No. Shares will have been cashed in if pension is being collected Like everything else it's a source of pleasure for him that he's got lucky whilst others pay. He'll also take credit for that luck. Remind you of anyone?" sometimes you have your head switched on and the post above should say "buy at 4000" | |||