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"Unfortunately it's not needed.The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stone.The age of oil is over.It will be left in the ground.You won't see any petrol cars in 2050." I dont think we will complete rid of oil but the demand will have significantly reduced | |||
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"You voted....you wanted to stay" Did i ? News to me as i voted to get the hell away from the UK Fact is unionists claimed back in 2014 oil was running out Indact BP were against Scottish independence and warning us oil is running out Now BP have magically found all this new oil eh lol Oh well no doubt once a new independence referendum comes i wouldnt be shocked if unionists use the old shit lines of oil is running out again lol | |||
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"When will you just accept the democratic vote and get on with it? You lost, tough luck but the majority voted to stay part of the UK. You can't keep demanding a vote if you don't win, why not try to make the best of things. Remember the vote was once in a generation, you won't be getting another one any time soon. " Wow so you dont believe in democracy Do you know democracy is not a one off event ? Are people not allowed to change their minds ? Yeah ok so you want Scottish people just to accept brexit when the majority didnt vote for it ? Yeah right guess again lol Sounding very dictatorship there Scotland does not need permission to have an independence referendum Westminster have no legal power to stop a referendum happening Also the news on new oil being found pretty much tells you unionists were wrong its not running out and seen as its been found in Scottish waters and Scotland gain independence Westminster get bugger all money from oil Ooooohhh is that another reason they are hell bend on keeping Scotland in the UK lol | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! " Breaking news you are a EU cizizen duhhhh!!!! As for the UK and EU for Scotland Well in the UK union Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government or brexit and has no veto Where as an independent Scotland in the EU will have a veto and have a say in the EU bloc What is so wrong about having the right to self govern and have full control over all affairs and we do not want to be ruled by Westminster and we want to elect a oarty in government we can hold to account | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol " Er, no they didn't, as you may recall that was around the time massive oil reserves were discovered around Gatwick. Try and get it right? | |||
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"You voted....you wanted to stay Did i ? News to me as i voted to get the hell away from the UK Fact is unionists claimed back in 2014 oil was running out Indact BP were against Scottish independence and warning us oil is running out Now BP have magically found all this new oil eh lol Oh well no doubt once a new independence referendum comes i wouldnt be shocked if unionists use the old shit lines of oil is running out again lol" . Do you know what depletion means? | |||
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"Scotland won't get in, the price would be to high to pay, to comply with the acquis communautaire would mean austerity on a scale beyond George Osbornes wildest wet dream. As for oil running out, it will some day as it is a finite resource. There isn't an never ending unlimited amount under the North Sea. It is just a question of whether it's economically viable to do so. Cost of extraction V profit from the sale of. Incidentally, we have millions of tons of coal under our feet, coal that is too costly to get out the ground, same applies to oil. " But unionists claimed it was running out back 2014 ? So is Ian Wood and Ally Darling now wrong ? | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! Breaking news you are a EU cizizen duhhhh!!!! As for the UK and EU for Scotland Well in the UK union Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government or brexit and has no veto Where as an independent Scotland in the EU will have a veto and have a say in the EU bloc What is so wrong about having the right to self govern and have full control over all affairs and we do not want to be ruled by Westminster and we want to elect a oarty in government we can hold to account " But you will not have the right to self govern. Nether will you have full control. EU will dictate what you can and can not do. One of the main reasons why over 17 million UK citizens voted to leave the EU. | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol Er, no they didn't, as you may recall that was around the time massive oil reserves were discovered around Gatwick. Try and get it right?" Ian Woods words not mine "the industry’s projected decline means “the case is heavily weighted towards Scotland remaining in the UK” and he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged. Instead he warned they would see a “real rundown” in Scottish public services and jobs after independence" That sure as hell sounds like he saying oil will run out and that was back in 2014 | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! " Google "Auld Alliance"  | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! Breaking news you are a EU cizizen duhhhh!!!! As for the UK and EU for Scotland Well in the UK union Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government or brexit and has no veto Where as an independent Scotland in the EU will have a veto and have a say in the EU bloc What is so wrong about having the right to self govern and have full control over all affairs and we do not want to be ruled by Westminster and we want to elect a oarty in government we can hold to account But you will not have the right to self govern. Nether will you have full control. EU will dictate what you can and can not do. One of the main reasons why over 17 million UK citizens voted to leave the EU." Wow so let me get this right are you about to say Germany , France , Sweden , Italy , Holland all there government do not have full control over all their own affairs ? You better get clued up on the EU lol What and the UK do not dictate what Scotland can and cant have in devolved powers ? Tell me this on the Scotland bill was it unelected lords that decided what powers Scotland will get ? Here is something for you to learn see those fannies moaning about taking back control over immigration did you know the UK government already have power over immigration ? No no that dont suit the leave voters agenda they want to blame it all on non UK cizitens So if you need treatment in a hospital with you refuse to be treated because that EU citizen doesnt speak English that well ? As it stands you are a EU citizen | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol Er, no they didn't, as you may recall that was around the time massive oil reserves were discovered around Gatwick. Try and get it right? Ian Woods words not mine "the industry’s projected decline means “the case is heavily weighted towards Scotland remaining in the UK” and he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged. Instead he warned they would see a “real rundown” in Scottish public services and jobs after independence" That sure as hell sounds like he saying oil will run out and that was back in 2014 " I said on this forum back in 2014 that we had new discoveries, new "untapped reserves" and vast new finds west of Shetland too Various companies are at this present time building new Jackets & platforms for finds in both North sea & West of Shetland, South Korea has a good few contracts for this work Various oil companies are building new refineries and expanding old ones (costing £billions) You do not build a new platform for 5 - 10 years production, you look for minimum of 30 years production. As for Sir Ian Wood, he had alternative motives for telling such lies or at least not being upfront with the truth | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! Breaking news you are a EU cizizen duhhhh!!!! As for the UK and EU for Scotland Well in the UK union Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government or brexit and has no veto Where as an independent Scotland in the EU will have a veto and have a say in the EU bloc What is so wrong about having the right to self govern and have full control over all affairs and we do not want to be ruled by Westminster and we want to elect a oarty in government we can hold to account " I did not vote for a snp executive in Edinburgh but got one. Can I claim Inverclyde an independent state please !!! | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! " Must admit that I could never get my head around that one. OK they would have some input. 6 MEP's out of 751 and 1 commissioner out of 28.  | |||
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"I'm not sure anyone said oil is running out . . . It's there but it's getting more and more difficult to extract. As I understand it they have to go deeper to Reach the stuff. As they go deeper the geology changes. " no Roma, you don't understand and that is not the case, its more to do with permeability and porosity of the reservior | |||
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"Scotland won't get in, the price would be to high to pay, to comply with the acquis communautaire would mean austerity on a scale beyond George Osbornes wildest wet dream. As for oil running out, it will some day as it is a finite resource. There isn't an never ending unlimited amount under the North Sea. It is just a question of whether it's economically viable to do so. Cost of extraction V profit from the sale of. Incidentally, we have millions of tons of coal under our feet, coal that is too costly to get out the ground, same applies to oil. But unionists claimed it was running out back 2014 ? So is Ian Wood and Ally Darling now wrong ? " . Saudi Arabia has claimed the same reserves for 40 fucking years, do you think they lied to begin with or are lying now? | |||
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"Scotland won't get in, the price would be to high to pay, to comply with the acquis communautaire would mean austerity on a scale beyond George Osbornes wildest wet dream. As for oil running out, it will some day as it is a finite resource. There isn't an never ending unlimited amount under the North Sea. It is just a question of whether it's economically viable to do so. Cost of extraction V profit from the sale of. Incidentally, we have millions of tons of coal under our feet, coal that is too costly to get out the ground, same applies to oil. But unionists claimed it was running out back 2014 ? So is Ian Wood and Ally Darling now wrong ? . Saudi Arabia has claimed the same reserves for 40 fucking years, do you think they lied to begin with or are lying now?" See there is that thing i am getting accused off in another thread not answering questions lol I wonder if that will get flegged up by someone eh loll You answered with a question maybe try and answer mine lol | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! Breaking news you are a EU cizizen duhhhh!!!! As for the UK and EU for Scotland Well in the UK union Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government or brexit and has no veto Where as an independent Scotland in the EU will have a veto and have a say in the EU bloc What is so wrong about having the right to self govern and have full control over all affairs and we do not want to be ruled by Westminster and we want to elect a oarty in government we can hold to account I did not vote for a snp executive in Edinburgh but got one. Can I claim Inverclyde an independent state please !!!" Ok please by all means tell me how does Scotland keep the Tories to account in Westminster ? | |||
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"You voted....you wanted to stay Did i ? News to me as i voted to get the hell away from the UK Fact is unionists claimed back in 2014 oil was running out Indact BP were against Scottish independence and warning us oil is running out Now BP have magically found all this new oil eh lol Oh well no doubt once a new independence referendum comes i wouldnt be shocked if unionists use the old shit lines of oil is running out again lol. Do you know what depletion means?" Yes Voyeur I know what depletion means, and I know how to work with depletion wells to increase production Do you know what New discoveries mean and new un-tapped reserves | |||
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"Scotland won't get in, the price would be to high to pay, to comply with the acquis communautaire would mean austerity on a scale beyond George Osbornes wildest wet dream. As for oil running out, it will some day as it is a finite resource. There isn't an never ending unlimited amount under the North Sea. It is just a question of whether it's economically viable to do so. Cost of extraction V profit from the sale of. Incidentally, we have millions of tons of coal under our feet, coal that is too costly to get out the ground, same applies to oil. But unionists claimed it was running out back 2014 ? So is Ian Wood and Ally Darling now wrong ? " North Sea oil has been "running out" since they extracted the first barrel. The only thing in question is the time scale. Of course new discovery's will be made and it may well drag on for a bit longer than is currently thought. The biggest problem however isn't the amount left, it is the price it will be able to achieve. Over the next few decades world demand will reduce as new technology takes over and the Arabs (who are still sat on an ocean of the stuff) will dictate the price. I love Scotland and if the people want independence then I would wish them well, but please don't do it on the premise that North Sea oil will pay the bills and solve all the problems. It Won't and the hangover from the Indy party could last a very long time. | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! Breaking news you are a EU cizizen duhhhh!!!! As for the UK and EU for Scotland Well in the UK union Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government or brexit and has no veto Where as an independent Scotland in the EU will have a veto and have a say in the EU bloc What is so wrong about having the right to self govern and have full control over all affairs and we do not want to be ruled by Westminster and we want to elect a oarty in government we can hold to account I did not vote for a snp executive in Edinburgh but got one. Can I claim Inverclyde an independent state please !!! Ok please by all means tell me how does Scotland keep the Tories to account in Westminster ? " Scotland had 13 Tory MP's doesn't it? | |||
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"Scotland won't get in, the price would be to high to pay, to comply with the acquis communautaire would mean austerity on a scale beyond George Osbornes wildest wet dream. As for oil running out, it will some day as it is a finite resource. There isn't an never ending unlimited amount under the North Sea. It is just a question of whether it's economically viable to do so. Cost of extraction V profit from the sale of. Incidentally, we have millions of tons of coal under our feet, coal that is too costly to get out the ground, same applies to oil. But unionists claimed it was running out back 2014 ? So is Ian Wood and Ally Darling now wrong ? North Sea oil has been "running out" since they extracted the first barrel. The only thing in question is the time scale. Of course new discovery's will be made and it may well drag on for a bit longer than is currently thought. The biggest problem however isn't the amount left, it is the price it will be able to achieve. Over the next few decades world demand will reduce as new technology takes over and the Arabs (who are still sat on an ocean of the stuff) will dictate the price. I love Scotland and if the people want independence then I would wish them well, but please don't do it on the premise that North Sea oil will pay the bills and solve all the problems. It Won't and the hangover from the Indy party could last a very long time." The point is unionists back 2014 said oil is running out to scare people | |||
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"You voted....you wanted to stay Did i ? News to me as i voted to get the hell away from the UK Fact is unionists claimed back in 2014 oil was running out Indact BP were against Scottish independence and warning us oil is running out Now BP have magically found all this new oil eh lol Oh well no doubt once a new independence referendum comes i wouldnt be shocked if unionists use the old shit lines of oil is running out again lol. Do you know what depletion means? Yes Voyeur I know what depletion means, and I know how to work with depletion wells to increase production Do you know what New discoveries mean and new un-tapped reserves" . Yes. But then I also know North sea production peaked in 1998. You don't get any "extra" out of Wells via new technology, the technology just let's you get out what you once couldn't,I also know that the latter produced oil in all Wells is more expensive to extract and of lower quality so always buying into profit, crappier oil also requires new and different refineries, one of the reasons why your seeing investment in "new refineries" in Scotland, it's got nothing to do with additional output | |||
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"Scotland won't get in, the price would be to high to pay, to comply with the acquis communautaire would mean austerity on a scale beyond George Osbornes wildest wet dream. As for oil running out, it will some day as it is a finite resource. There isn't an never ending unlimited amount under the North Sea. It is just a question of whether it's economically viable to do so. Cost of extraction V profit from the sale of. Incidentally, we have millions of tons of coal under our feet, coal that is too costly to get out the ground, same applies to oil. But unionists claimed it was running out back 2014 ? So is Ian Wood and Ally Darling now wrong ? North Sea oil has been "running out" since they extracted the first barrel. The only thing in question is the time scale. Of course new discovery's will be made and it may well drag on for a bit longer than is currently thought. The biggest problem however isn't the amount left, it is the price it will be able to achieve. Over the next few decades world demand will reduce as new technology takes over and the Arabs (who are still sat on an ocean of the stuff) will dictate the price. I love Scotland and if the people want independence then I would wish them well, but please don't do it on the premise that North Sea oil will pay the bills and solve all the problems. It Won't and the hangover from the Indy party could last a very long time." You will of course be aware there are many different qualities of oil tell me? what grade is it the Arabs are sitting on un-tapped is it light oil? Heavy, is it LP/HP | |||
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"Scotland won't get in, the price would be to high to pay, to comply with the acquis communautaire would mean austerity on a scale beyond George Osbornes wildest wet dream. As for oil running out, it will some day as it is a finite resource. There isn't an never ending unlimited amount under the North Sea. It is just a question of whether it's economically viable to do so. Cost of extraction V profit from the sale of. Incidentally, we have millions of tons of coal under our feet, coal that is too costly to get out the ground, same applies to oil. But unionists claimed it was running out back 2014 ? So is Ian Wood and Ally Darling now wrong ? North Sea oil has been "running out" since they extracted the first barrel. The only thing in question is the time scale. Of course new discovery's will be made and it may well drag on for a bit longer than is currently thought. The biggest problem however isn't the amount left, it is the price it will be able to achieve. Over the next few decades world demand will reduce as new technology takes over and the Arabs (who are still sat on an ocean of the stuff) will dictate the price. I love Scotland and if the people want independence then I would wish them well, but please don't do it on the premise that North Sea oil will pay the bills and solve all the problems. It Won't and the hangover from the Indy party could last a very long time. The point is unionists back 2014 said oil is running out to scare people " I think it is a moot point really. Alex Salmond did most of his numbers based on a $100+ oil price and look where that ended up. Just because the oil is there doesn't mean that it can be extracted and sold profitably, just ask any Venezuelan. | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! Breaking news you are a EU cizizen duhhhh!!!! As for the UK and EU for Scotland Well in the UK union Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government or brexit and has no veto Where as an independent Scotland in the EU will have a veto and have a say in the EU bloc What is so wrong about having the right to self govern and have full control over all affairs and we do not want to be ruled by Westminster and we want to elect a oarty in government we can hold to account I did not vote for a snp executive in Edinburgh but got one. Can I claim Inverclyde an independent state please !!! Ok please by all means tell me how does Scotland keep the Tories to account in Westminster ? Scotland had 13 Tory MP's doesn't it?" Yes it does name one thing they have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Did all 13 Scottish Tory branch office MPs vote against protecting the devolved powers in Holyrood ? After saying how annoyed they were at their own party lazyness to amendent the Bill ? But hey they still voted with their party eh Remember them saying the will stand up for Scotlands interests how is that working out ? Cant name a single power to be returned to Holyrood nor can they name one single non devolved power going to Holyrood in this great powers bonzana Fluffy Mundell promised Scotland will get | |||
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"You voted....you wanted to stay Did i ? News to me as i voted to get the hell away from the UK Fact is unionists claimed back in 2014 oil was running out Indact BP were against Scottish independence and warning us oil is running out Now BP have magically found all this new oil eh lol Oh well no doubt once a new independence referendum comes i wouldnt be shocked if unionists use the old shit lines of oil is running out again lol. Do you know what depletion means? Yes Voyeur I know what depletion means, and I know how to work with depletion wells to increase production Do you know what New discoveries mean and new un-tapped reserves. Yes. But then I also know North sea production peaked in 1998. You don't get any "extra" out of Wells via new technology, the technology just let's you get out what you once couldn't,I also know that the latter produced oil in all Wells is more expensive to extract and of lower quality so always buying into profit, crappier oil also requires new and different refineries, one of the reasons why your seeing investment in "new refineries" in Scotland, it's got nothing to do with additional output" wow, is that so tell me? when did the Buzzard come on line oh and what about the Elgin/Franklin, was that pre or post 1998 and what about all the west of Shetland finds are these "crappy Oil" and of course "Statoil" why would they be venturing into the North Sea, and building a vast new platform and as for expansion and new refineries, your comment was "bullshit" its all to do with new finds and west of Shetland HT/HP discoveries | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol Er, no they didn't, as you may recall that was around the time massive oil reserves were discovered around Gatwick. Try and get it right? Ian Woods words not mine "the industry’s projected decline means “the case is heavily weighted towards Scotland remaining in the UK” and he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged. Instead he warned they would see a “real rundown” in Scottish public services and jobs after independence" That sure as hell sounds like he saying oil will run out and that was back in 2014 " Pick out where he says "oil" and "running out", oh he doesn't. | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol Er, no they didn't, as you may recall that was around the time massive oil reserves were discovered around Gatwick. Try and get it right? Ian Woods words not mine "the industry’s projected decline means “the case is heavily weighted towards Scotland remaining in the UK” and he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged. Instead he warned they would see a “real rundown” in Scottish public services and jobs after independence" That sure as hell sounds like he saying oil will run out and that was back in 2014 Pick out where he says "oil" and "running out", oh he doesn't." Read between the lines you will get there sooner or later hint "he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged" Now what do you suppose he means by that eh ? As that sounds very close to him saying oil is running out its not hard if you really look closer | |||
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"You voted....you wanted to stay Did i ? News to me as i voted to get the hell away from the UK Fact is unionists claimed back in 2014 oil was running out Indact BP were against Scottish independence and warning us oil is running out Now BP have magically found all this new oil eh lol Oh well no doubt once a new independence referendum comes i wouldnt be shocked if unionists use the old shit lines of oil is running out again lol. Do you know what depletion means? Yes Voyeur I know what depletion means, and I know how to work with depletion wells to increase production Do you know what New discoveries mean and new un-tapped reserves. Yes. But then I also know North sea production peaked in 1998. You don't get any "extra" out of Wells via new technology, the technology just let's you get out what you once couldn't,I also know that the latter produced oil in all Wells is more expensive to extract and of lower quality so always buying into profit, crappier oil also requires new and different refineries, one of the reasons why your seeing investment in "new refineries" in Scotland, it's got nothing to do with additional output wow, is that so tell me? when did the Buzzard come on line oh and what about the Elgin/Franklin, was that pre or post 1998 and what about all the west of Shetland finds are these "crappy Oil" and of course "Statoil" why would they be venturing into the North Sea, and building a vast new platform and as for expansion and new refineries, your comment was "bullshit" its all to do with new finds and west of Shetland HT/HP discoveries" . Your either completely stupid or just blinded by your own bullshit. Theres plenty of places in the world you can go visit to see depletion in action like Baku or Venezuela, Texas.... Can Scotland make a reasonable living off oil for a few more decades? Sure. Basing your economy in it for any prolonged period is both dangerous and stupid though | |||
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"Scotland won't get in, the price would be to high to pay, to comply with the acquis communautaire would mean austerity on a scale beyond George Osbornes wildest wet dream. As for oil running out, it will some day as it is a finite resource. There isn't an never ending unlimited amount under the North Sea. It is just a question of whether it's economically viable to do so. Cost of extraction V profit from the sale of. Incidentally, we have millions of tons of coal under our feet, coal that is too costly to get out the ground, same applies to oil. But unionists claimed it was running out back 2014 ? So is Ian Wood and Ally Darling now wrong ? North Sea oil has been "running out" since they extracted the first barrel. The only thing in question is the time scale. Of course new discovery's will be made and it may well drag on for a bit longer than is currently thought. The biggest problem however isn't the amount left, it is the price it will be able to achieve. Over the next few decades world demand will reduce as new technology takes over and the Arabs (who are still sat on an ocean of the stuff) will dictate the price. I love Scotland and if the people want independence then I would wish them well, but please don't do it on the premise that North Sea oil will pay the bills and solve all the problems. It Won't and the hangover from the Indy party could last a very long time. You will of course be aware there are many different qualities of oil tell me? what grade is it the Arabs are sitting on un-tapped is it light oil? Heavy, is it LP/HP" Doesn't matter if it's Olive Oil. If nobody wants it then it is worthless. At the moment the West Texas/Brent spread is around $2 a barrel, hardly an earth shattering or independence funding difference. | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! Breaking news you are a EU cizizen duhhhh!!!! As for the UK and EU for Scotland Well in the UK union Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government or brexit and has no veto Where as an independent Scotland in the EU will have a veto and have a say in the EU bloc What is so wrong about having the right to self govern and have full control over all affairs and we do not want to be ruled by Westminster and we want to elect a oarty in government we can hold to account I did not vote for a snp executive in Edinburgh but got one. Can I claim Inverclyde an independent state please !!! Ok please by all means tell me how does Scotland keep the Tories to account in Westminster ? Scotland had 13 Tory MP's doesn't it? Yes it does name one thing they have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Did all 13 Scottish Tory branch office MPs vote against protecting the devolved powers in Holyrood ? After saying how annoyed they were at their own party lazyness to amendent the Bill ? But hey they still voted with their party eh Remember them saying the will stand up for Scotlands interests how is that working out ? Cant name a single power to be returned to Holyrood nor can they name one single non devolved power going to Holyrood in this great powers bonzana Fluffy Mundell promised Scotland will get " So if Scotland has 13 Tory MP's, that means more Scottish people voted for each one of them than any of the other candidates? | |||
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"I really don't understand Scottish independent people. They want out of a union of over 300 years where all 4 countries have close ties, family members, same language and a common history. But they want to be a small part of the EU in which they have nothing in common, different languages, been at war with them a number of times in the last 300 years, will have no say how it's run and will have to accept their rules with no input! Breaking news you are a EU cizizen duhhhh!!!! As for the UK and EU for Scotland Well in the UK union Scotland didnt vote for a Tory government or brexit and has no veto Where as an independent Scotland in the EU will have a veto and have a say in the EU bloc What is so wrong about having the right to self govern and have full control over all affairs and we do not want to be ruled by Westminster and we want to elect a oarty in government we can hold to account I did not vote for a snp executive in Edinburgh but got one. Can I claim Inverclyde an independent state please !!! Ok please by all means tell me how does Scotland keep the Tories to account in Westminster ? Scotland had 13 Tory MP's doesn't it? Yes it does name one thing they have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Did all 13 Scottish Tory branch office MPs vote against protecting the devolved powers in Holyrood ? After saying how annoyed they were at their own party lazyness to amendent the Bill ? But hey they still voted with their party eh Remember them saying the will stand up for Scotlands interests how is that working out ? Cant name a single power to be returned to Holyrood nor can they name one single non devolved power going to Holyrood in this great powers bonzana Fluffy Mundell promised Scotland will get So if Scotland has 13 Tory MP's, that means more Scottish people voted for each one of them than any of the other candidates? " Right again pointing this out for those accusing me of not answering questions just so you see the double standards on here lol name one thing they have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Did all 13 Scottish Tory branch office MPs vote against protecting the devolved powers in Holyrood ? After saying how annoyed they were at their own party lazyness to amendent the Bill ? But hey they still voted with their party eh | |||
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"When will you just accept the democratic vote and get on with it? You lost, tough luck but the majority voted to stay part of the UK. You can't keep demanding a vote if you don't win, why not try to make the best of things. Remember the vote was once in a generation, you won't be getting another one any time soon. " It will be the scottish ppl who will decide when we get a vote ,and as for once in a generation that was one person who said that | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol " i remember the snp saying it would be worth 120 dollars a barrel...... and that was that they would be making all their economic calculations based on that..... so............ what happened? | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol i remember the snp saying it would be worth 120 dollars a barrel...... and that was that they would be making all their economic calculations based on that..... so............ what happened? "USA fracked the shit out their country (they'll pay the price for that ecologically later) stopped importing so much oil - and OPEC won't restrict production to bump up the oil price. They've got deep pockets so they can weather it for a while to keep market share. As for the prices that the SNP based their calculations - they were comcomitant with other predictions at the time. Pretty much in the middle of other predictions - maybe a bit on the high side - but not excessively so. It was a fair enough price to calculate on. Thats what happened... | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol i remember the snp saying it would be worth 120 dollars a barrel...... and that was that they would be making all their economic calculations based on that..... so............ what happened? "oth sides were wrong But unionists claimed it was running out correct ? So Fabio did the no side get it wrong ? Did Ian Wood get it wrong ? Do you think unionists will be able to pull that trick again So do you believe an independent Scotland would only have oil as a revenue ? | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol i remember the snp saying it would be worth 120 dollars a barrel...... and that was that they would be making all their economic calculations based on that..... so............ what happened?
USA fracked the shit out their country (they'll pay the price for that ecologically later) stopped importing so much oil - and OPEC won't restrict production to bump up the oil price. They've got deep pockets so they can weather it for a while to keep market share.
As for the prices that the SNP based their calculations - they were comcomitant with other predictions at the time. Pretty much in the middle of other predictions - maybe a bit on the high side - but not excessively so. It was a fair enough price to calculate on.
Thats what happened..."cant argue at that and its sitting at a good price right now fluctuating between $68 - $70 there are a lot of big projects on the go right now, a lot of new finds and for Statoil to move into North sea is also big its not often you get the Norwegians buying up blocks for exploration on top of what they have already found | |||
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"I get it Fabio your worried if Scotland goes independent no more oil for Westminster and a lose in north sea oil reveune for Westminster as its in Scottish waters lol " how much revenue did the uk government make from north sea oil last year? ... I'll await your answer...... | |||
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"I get it Fabio your worried if Scotland goes independent no more oil for Westminster and a lose in north sea oil reveune for Westminster as its in Scottish waters lol " Not quite sure how an independent Scotland wold protect it without a Navy and Airforce. Maybe one of those probing Russian naval ships might just take it all away from you!  | |||
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"The link you posted had the quote... He said no more than 35 years of oil and gas production remain unless major new discoveries are made So he’s not wrong. He offered a qualified statement. The new reserves themselves seem to vary in size from “small to moderate” to very large (refined down from largest ever). I’d also be slightly wary of using a BP spokesperson as an unbiased source for good news ..." BP have already spent billions on a new refinery for sweetening the gas, not only have they the Clare ridge and a lot more un-tapped reserves on top of that. Total, Chevron, Statoil, Shell and a few others have made major finds | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol i remember the snp saying it would be worth 120 dollars a barrel...... and that was that they would be making all their economic calculations based on that..... so............ what happened?
USA fracked the shit out their country (they'll pay the price for that ecologically later) stopped importing so much oil - and OPEC won't restrict production to bump up the oil price. They've got deep pockets so they can weather it for a while to keep market share.
As for the prices that the SNP based their calculations - they were comcomitant with other predictions at the time. Pretty much in the middle of other predictions - maybe a bit on the high side - but not excessively so. It was a fair enough price to calculate on.
Thats what happened..."So doing all the calculations at $100+ a barrel then the price crashing to below $50 is "fair enough"? It's far from fair enough, it's huge black hole. (pardon the pun) Even after a bit of a recovery it is still only around half the price the SNP were counting on. The SNP bet the farm on what was pretty obviously, even then, nothing more than a short term spike in the price. We hear a lot about "Casino Banking" these days but to base a case for independence on the price of a volatile internationally traded commodity was "Casino Politics" at its worst. | |||
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"I get it Fabio your worried if Scotland goes independent no more oil for Westminster and a lose in north sea oil reveune for Westminster as its in Scottish waters lol Not quite sure how an independent Scotland wold protect it without a Navy and Airforce. Maybe one of those probing Russian naval ships might just take it all away from you! "You are aware that if Scotland got independence the army, navy and airforce would be divided up | |||
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"I get it Fabio your worried if Scotland goes independent no more oil for Westminster and a lose in north sea oil reveune for Westminster as its in Scottish waters lol how much revenue did the uk government make from north sea oil last year? ... I'll await your answer...... "Oh there it has happend again not answering my questions the very think i am accused off lol | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol i remember the snp saying it would be worth 120 dollars a barrel...... and that was that they would be making all their economic calculations based on that..... so............ what happened?
USA fracked the shit out their country (they'll pay the price for that ecologically later) stopped importing so much oil - and OPEC won't restrict production to bump up the oil price. They've got deep pockets so they can weather it for a while to keep market share.
As for the prices that the SNP based their calculations - they were comcomitant with other predictions at the time. Pretty much in the middle of other predictions - maybe a bit on the high side - but not excessively so. It was a fair enough price to calculate on.
Thats what happened...
So doing all the calculations at $100+ a barrel then the price crashing to below $50 is "fair enough"? It's far from fair enough, it's huge black hole. (pardon the pun)
Even after a bit of a recovery it is still only around half the price the SNP were counting on.
The SNP bet the farm on what was pretty obviously, even then, nothing more than a short term spike in the price.
We hear a lot about "Casino Banking" these days but to base a case for independence on the price of a volatile internationally traded commodity was "Casino Politics" at its worst."Doing the calculations at that price was fair enough at the time - the price had been relatively stable for 5 years. Not a short term spike - you made that up. No-one saw the crash coming. Russia got humped by it - Venezuala too I think. | |||
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"I get it Fabio your worried if Scotland goes independent no more oil for Westminster and a lose in north sea oil reveune for Westminster as its in Scottish waters lol how much revenue did the uk government make from north sea oil last year? ... I'll await your answer......
Oh there it has happend again not answering my questions the very think i am accused off lol "well since the UK government made ZERO revenue from north sea oil last year it wasn't something that was missed.... so thats why if you were crowing about i would do it from a point of fact.... also if you want to go independent, and since you want all the oil in scottish waters (at the momnet because the shetlands and the orkneys would have a very legitimate claim if their seperatist movements gain strength) you will also be left with all the capping costs..... which conservatively has been estimated to be somewhere around 75-100 billion.... so..... be my guest..... if you want those costs i'll be more than happy to pass them on.....
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"I get it Fabio your worried if Scotland goes independent no more oil for Westminster and a lose in north sea oil reveune for Westminster as its in Scottish waters lol how much revenue did the uk government make from north sea oil last year? ... I'll await your answer......
Oh there it has happend again not answering my questions the very think i am accused off lol
well since the UK government made ZERO revenue from north sea oil last year it wasn't something that was missed.... so thats why if you were crowing about i would do it from a point of fact....
also if you want to go independent, and since you want all the oil in scottish waters (at the momnet because the shetlands and the orkneys would have a very legitimate claim if their seperatist movements gain strength) you will also be left with all the capping costs..... which conservatively has been estimated to be somewhere around 75-100 billion....
so..... be my guest..... if you want those costs i'll be more than happy to pass them on.....
you seem to have this great addiction to making scotland poorer.... 1st the 40 billion.... now this! its just as well you are the minority in your own country!!! "doesn't cost much at all to cap or indeed cement a reservoir tell me Fabio, who gets the decommissioning bill? the UK or the oil company? | |||
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"I get it Fabio your worried if Scotland goes independent no more oil for Westminster and a lose in north sea oil reveune for Westminster as its in Scottish waters lol how much revenue did the uk government make from north sea oil last year? ... I'll await your answer......
Oh there it has happend again not answering my questions the very think i am accused off lol
well since the UK government made ZERO revenue from north sea oil last year it wasn't something that was missed.... so thats why if you were crowing about i would do it from a point of fact....
also if you want to go independent, and since you want all the oil in scottish waters (at the momnet because the shetlands and the orkneys would have a very legitimate claim if their seperatist movements gain strength) you will also be left with all the capping costs..... which conservatively has been estimated to be somewhere around 75-100 billion....
so..... be my guest..... if you want those costs i'll be more than happy to pass them on.....
you seem to have this great addiction to making scotland poorer.... 1st the 40 billion.... now this! its just as well you are the minority in your own country!!! "yeah... but thats a strawman though. The argument at the time of the ref was oil is running out - that's patently not true though is it? And just cos the price of oil is low now - it does not make it worthless. last year means nothing - oil wasn't worth feck all in 2009 either - so what? Whats the value over 30 years... 40 years? An 'embarrassment of riches' I think is a term that has been used in the past | |||
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"Oh Fabio where is answers to these questions i am only pointing out what i m getting accused of not doing as i am seeing double standards lol unionists claimed it was running out correct ? So Fabio did the no side get it wrong ? Did Ian Wood get it wrong in 2014 ? So do you believe an independent Scotland would only have oil as a revenue ?" Was just wondering..! Will the Scottish Green Party be happy for an independent Scotland to extract all this oil? | |||
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"I get it Fabio your worried if Scotland goes independent no more oil for Westminster and a lose in north sea oil reveune for Westminster as its in Scottish waters lol how much revenue did the uk government make from north sea oil last year? ... I'll await your answer......
Oh there it has happend again not answering my questions the very think i am accused off lol
well since the UK government made ZERO revenue from north sea oil last year it wasn't something that was missed.... so thats why if you were crowing about i would do it from a point of fact....
also if you want to go independent, and since you want all the oil in scottish waters (at the momnet because the shetlands and the orkneys would have a very legitimate claim if their seperatist movements gain strength) you will also be left with all the capping costs..... which conservatively has been estimated to be somewhere around 75-100 billion....
so..... be my guest..... if you want those costs i'll be more than happy to pass them on.....
you seem to have this great addiction to making scotland poorer.... 1st the 40 billion.... now this! its just as well you are the minority in your own country!!!
yeah... but thats a strawman though.
The argument at the time of the ref was oil is running out - that's patently not true though is it?
And just cos the price of oil is low now - it does not make it worthless.
last year means nothing - oil wasn't worth feck all in 2009 either - so what?
Whats the value over 30 years... 40 years? An 'embarrassment of riches' I think is a term that has been used in the past". Actually most of the UK oil companies have received massive billon pound tax subsidies since the oil price crash and seen as the UK nor Scotland actually "own" the oil but only make an amount on tax per barrel brought ashore then no... It really really wasn't anything like a gold mine for like five years. I'm not particularly bothered one way or the tother but if you ask me if your trying to sell people a "country" sell them it with some honesty and I'm telling you now is the time but it will probably mean dropping the EU membership for awhile, your never going to persuade them to swap one union for another | |||
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"Oh Fabio where is answers to these questions i am only pointing out what i m getting accused of not doing as i am seeing double standards lol unionists claimed it was running out correct ? So Fabio did the no side get it wrong ? Did Ian Wood get it wrong in 2014 ? So do you believe an independent Scotland would only have oil as a revenue ?" The OGA central estimate is 10bn to 20bn if tonnes Their estimate of undiscovered is 6bn (range 2 to 9) 600m was taken in 2016 So a top end estimate is c 50 years. Mid range is 30 ish Bottom 20 years. I’d say Ian Wood is ball park okay at the moment. | |||
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"Scotland is a world leader in renewable energy in 2017 it produced over half of what it required from renewables.You could be selling electricity to the rest of the UK and be carbon neutral.Forget the oil and the gas it's over. "Bob you use the products of oil & gas every day | |||
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"a few products manufactured from Oil & Gas; Solvents Diesel Motor Oil Bearing Grease Ink Floor Wax Ballpoint Pens Football Cleats Upholstery Sweaters Boats Insecticides Bicycle Tires Sports Car Bodies Nail Polish Fishing lures Dresses Tires Golf Bags Perfumes Cassettes Dishwasher Tool Boxes Shoe Polish Motorcycle Helmet Caulking Petroleum Jelly Transparent Tape CD Player Faucet Washers Antiseptics Clothesline Curtains Food Preservatives Basketballs Soap Vitamin Capsules Antihistamines Purses Shoes Dashboards Cortisone Deodorant Footballs Putty Dyes Panty Hose Refrigerant Percolators Life Jackets Rubbing Alcohol Linings Skis TV Cabinets Shag Rugs Electrician's Tape Tool Racks Car Battery Cases Epoxy Paint Mops Slacks Insect Repellent Oil Filters Umbrellas Yarn Fertilizers Hair Coloring Roofing Toilet Seats Fishing Rods Lipstick Denture Adhesive Linoleum Ice Cube Trays Synthetic Rubber Speakers Plastic Wood Electric Blankets Glycerin Tennis Rackets Rubber Cement Fishing Boots Dice Nylon Rope Candles Trash Bags House Paint Water Pipes Hand Lotion Roller Skates Surf Boards Shampoo Wheels Paint Rollers Shower Curtains Guitar Strings Luggage Aspirin Safety Glasses Antifreeze Football Helmets Awnings Eyeglasses Clothes Toothbrushes Ice Chests Footballs Combs CD's Paint Brushes Detergents Vaporizers Balloons Sun Glasses Tents Heart Valves Crayons Parachutes Telephones Enamel Pillows Dishes Cameras Anesthetics Artificial Turf Artificial limbs Bandages Dentures Model Cars Folding Doors Hair Curlers Cold cream Movie film Soft Contact lenses Drinking Cups Fan Belts Car Enamel Shaving Cream Ammonia Refrigerators Golf Balls Toothpaste Gasoline Ink Dishwashing liquids Paint brushes Telephones Toys Unbreakable dishes Insecticides Antiseptics Dolls Car sound insulation Fishing lures Deodorant Tires Motorcycle helmets Linoleum Sweaters Tents Refrigerator linings Paint rollers Floor wax Shoes Electrician's tape Plastic wood Model cars Glue Roller-skate wheels Trash bags Soap dishes Skis Permanent press clothes Hand lotion Clothesline Dyes Soft contact lenses Shampoo Panty hose Cameras Food preservatives Fishing rods Oil filters Combs Transparent tape Anesthetics Upholstery Dice Disposable diapers TV cabinets Cassettes Mops Sports car bodies Salad bowls House paint Purses Electric blankets Awnings Ammonia Dresses Car battery cases Safety glass Hair curlers Pajamas Synthetic rubber VCR tapes Eyeglasses Pillows Vitamin capsules Movie film Ice chests Candles Rubbing alcohol Loudspeakers Ice buckets Boats Ice cube trays Credit cards Fertilizers Crayons Insect repellent Water pipes Toilet seats Caulking Roofing shingles Fishing boots Life jackets Balloons Shower curtains Garden hose Golf balls Curtains Plywood adhesive Umbrellas Detergents Milk jugs Beach umbrellas Rubber cement Sun glasses Putty Faucet washers Cold cream Bandages Tool racks Antihistamines Hair coloring Nail polish Slacks Drinking cups Guitar strings False teeth Yarn Petroleum jelly Toothpaste Golf bags Roofing Tennis rackets Toothbrushes Perfume Luggage Wire insulation Folding doors Shoe polish Fan belts Ballpoint pens Shower doors Cortisone Carpeting Artificial turf Heart valves LP records Lipstick Artificial limbs Hearing aids Vaporizers" You think the other people in the forum did not know this ??????? | |||
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"Scotland is a world leader in renewable energy in 2017 it produced over half of what it required from renewables.You could be selling electricity to the rest of the UK and be carbon neutral.Forget the oil and the gas it's over. "2 out 3 things you said there are true
Oil is far from over... its days of use as a fuel might be limited - but not for some time. Battery tech is just not where it needs to be yet and is still reliant on relatively rare minerals like cobalt and lithium. Also - whatever happens... there will need to be changes in infrastructure and manufacturing. Oil will be used in the process of making those changes.
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"Scotland is a world leader in renewable energy in 2017 it produced over half of what it required from renewables.You could be selling electricity to the rest of the UK and be carbon neutral.Forget the oil and the gas it's over.
2 out 3 things you said there are true
Oil is far from over... its days of use as a fuel might be limited - but not for some time. Battery tech is just not where it needs to be yet and is still reliant on relatively rare minerals like cobalt and lithium. Also - whatever happens... there will need to be changes in infrastructure and manufacturing. Oil will be used in the process of making those changes.
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol Er, no they didn't, as you may recall that was around the time massive oil reserves were discovered around Gatwick. Try and get it right? Ian Woods words not mine "the industry’s projected decline means “the case is heavily weighted towards Scotland remaining in the UK” and he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged. Instead he warned they would see a “real rundown” in Scottish public services and jobs after independence" That sure as hell sounds like he saying oil will run out and that was back in 2014 Pick out where he says "oil" and "running out", oh he doesn't. Read between the lines you will get there sooner or later hint "he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged" Now what do you suppose he means by that eh ? As that sounds very close to him saying oil is running out its not hard if you really look closer " But he didn't, yet again you are caught lieing | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol Er, no they didn't, as you may recall that was around the time massive oil reserves were discovered around Gatwick. Try and get it right? Ian Woods words not mine "the industry’s projected decline means “the case is heavily weighted towards Scotland remaining in the UK” and he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged. Instead he warned they would see a “real rundown” in Scottish public services and jobs after independence" That sure as hell sounds like he saying oil will run out and that was back in 2014 Pick out where he says "oil" and "running out", oh he doesn't. Read between the lines you will get there sooner or later hint "he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged" Now what do you suppose he means by that eh ? As that sounds very close to him saying oil is running out its not hard if you really look closer But he didn't, yet again you are caught lieing" Right so what do you think he means when he said he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged" ? Does he have to use those words of oil and running out for you to get it ? Can you not read between the lines ? Lol | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year?" How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17?" Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol Er, no they didn't, as you may recall that was around the time massive oil reserves were discovered around Gatwick. Try and get it right? Ian Woods words not mine "the industry’s projected decline means “the case is heavily weighted towards Scotland remaining in the UK” and he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged. Instead he warned they would see a “real rundown” in Scottish public services and jobs after independence" That sure as hell sounds like he saying oil will run out and that was back in 2014 Pick out where he says "oil" and "running out", oh he doesn't. Read between the lines you will get there sooner or later hint "he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged" Now what do you suppose he means by that eh ? As that sounds very close to him saying oil is running out its not hard if you really look closer But he didn't, yet again you are caught lieing Right so what do you think he means when he said he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged" ? Does he have to use those words of oil and running out for you to get it ? Can you not read between the lines ? Lol " . That's probably very accurate if he's basing (young Scots) on 16 years old, middle age being 50 so 34 years time. | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make?" Are you not answering my ? | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?" i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. " Def not buttons being exported | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?" Firstly, I asked first, and you didn't answer, so why would I answer your question before you answer mine? Secondly, what do you mean by the "uk" if not the "UK Treasury"? So how much money did the government, the treasury make from oil last year? | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported " that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. " https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ? Firstly, I asked first, and you didn't answer, so why would I answer your question before you answer mine? Secondly, what do you mean by the "uk" if not the "UK Treasury"? So how much money did the government, the treasury make from oil last year?" You never asked me you posted a question and so did i ,i dont know what the treasury made as i havent looked into it ,but the uk exported $13.3 billion | |||
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"I could have sworn that back in 2014 unionists were claiming oil was running out Well BP dont see to think so And if Scotkand vote for independence guess what that oil is in Scottish waters Cant wait to hear Sir Ian Wood come up and tell us all he was wrong lol Er, no they didn't, as you may recall that was around the time massive oil reserves were discovered around Gatwick. Try and get it right? Ian Woods words not mine "the industry’s projected decline means “the case is heavily weighted towards Scotland remaining in the UK” and he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged. Instead he warned they would see a “real rundown” in Scottish public services and jobs after independence" That sure as hell sounds like he saying oil will run out and that was back in 2014 Pick out where he says "oil" and "running out", oh he doesn't. Read between the lines you will get there sooner or later hint "he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged" Now what do you suppose he means by that eh ? As that sounds very close to him saying oil is running out its not hard if you really look closer But he didn't, yet again you are caught lieing Right so what do you think he means when he said he was speaking out to ensure young Scots voting in the referendum knew there would be little production by the time they are middle aged" ? Does he have to use those words of oil and running out for you to get it ? Can you not read between the lines ? Lol " You can have all the oil you like, if it's too expensive to extract, it will stay there. You can have all the oil you like, if it's deemed environmentally dangerous, it will stay there. You can have all the oil you like, if alternative fuels are in use, it can stay there. Does someone have to tattoo it on your eyelids. No one said the oil is running out. Got it? Need it on the side of a bus? | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great " If they are exporting $13.3 billion worth i find that hard to beleive | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great " I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way. | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way. " | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
"I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab "Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying "You! | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great If they are exporting $13.3 billion worth i find that hard to beleive " my numbers came from the scottish government. I was suprised too. | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab "They should just put you in charge at Westminster eh? You'd soon sort it all out. CLCC for PM! I'd vote for ya  | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great If they are exporting $13.3 billion worth i find that hard to beleive my numbers came from the scottish government. I was suprised too. " Is that the figures Westminster give the scottish government? | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great If they are exporting $13.3 billion worth i find that hard to beleive my numbers came from the scottish government. I was suprised too. Is that the figures Westminster give the scottish government?" As far is I can tell they are the Scottish governments own. http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0050/00504649.pdf#page=6 | |||
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" Does someone have to tattoo it on your eyelids. No one said the oil is running out. Got it? Need it on the side of a bus?" I'm afraid you are wrong. The oil running out in the next year or two was very much reported at the time of the referendum, in Scotland | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great If they are exporting $13.3 billion worth i find that hard to beleive my numbers came from the scottish government. I was suprised too. Is that the figures Westminster give the scottish government? As far is I can tell they are the Scottish governments own. http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0050/00504649.pdf#page=6 " Ok but i think they get the figures from Westminster but not 100% sure | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!"Pls say what i am lying about ?  | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ? "The income to the treasury. | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury."Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it  | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it "Jesus, there is something seriously wrong with the education in Scotland | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it
Jesus, there is something seriously wrong with the education in Scotland "Just quote what it says | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it
Jesus, there is something seriously wrong with the education in Scotland
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it ". Your bonkers daft. You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?. Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England  | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it
Jesus, there is something seriously wrong with the education in Scotland
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England "Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ? | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ?". Yes I'm saying they made tax on per barrel brought ashore (I think it's about 5 quid) plus tax on company profits which were shit coz they offset the capex against profits and made not alot .
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great If they are exporting $13.3 billion worth i find that hard to beleive my numbers came from the scottish government. I was suprised too. Is that the figures Westminster give the scottish government? As far is I can tell they are the Scottish governments own. http://www.gov.scot/Resource/0050/00504649.pdf#page=6 " Its the GERS so the info... is well... its not dodgy as such - but it it pretty much just a purely arithmetic excercise show how Scotlands finances would look if it were run exactly as it though it were the UK. I think they left the oil revenues out one year... or maybe the whiskey - I dunno, there was a stramash about it I recall :P Lots of folk like to cite it as a reason why Scotland can't be independent. I look at as a reason should be | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ?.
Yes I'm saying they made tax on per barrel brought ashore (I think it's about 5 quid) plus tax on company profits which were shit coz they offset the capex against profits and made not alot .
Its not rocket science"Well that i dont beleive someone is cooking the books and the uk goverment are shafting us all thats my opinion | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England "Will they though? costs a lot to change where you onshore the oil. And last I looked Norway were taxing oil at a heckuva lot higher rate than we are - I reckon we could stand to increase the take without rocking the boat | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ?.
Yes I'm saying they made tax on per barrel brought ashore (I think it's about 5 quid) plus tax on company profits which were shit coz they offset the capex against profits and made not alot .
Its not rocket science
Well that i dont beleive someone is cooking the books and the uk goverment are shafting us all thats my opinion ". Bloody hell, how much do you think wages alone cost?...r&d, platforms, years and years of looking without finding, pipelines, divers, ships, helicopters.... We ain't even got to CEOs pay | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Will they though? costs a lot to change where you onshore the oil. And last I looked Norway were taxing oil at a heckuva lot higher rate than we are - I reckon we could stand to increase the take without rocking the boat". That's why I wrote more than there willing to pay???. I agree, we currently don't tax them enough, I think it's possible to squeeze a little bit more out of them. Plus Norway don't forget actually own their oil!.. Like Saudi Arabia do or Venezuela do or Brazil do but not like Canada the UK or America do | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ?"Not only did the government NOT make any money, it COST the UK taxpayer/the treasury/the government £400m! | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ?.
Yes I'm saying they made tax on per barrel brought ashore (I think it's about 5 quid) plus tax on company profits which were shit coz they offset the capex against profits and made not alot .
Its not rocket science
Well that i dont beleive someone is cooking the books and the uk goverment are shafting us all thats my opinion "do you have any evidence for this ? Why hasn’t the Scottish government challenged? The paper itself suggests an independant review. Are they in on it ? | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Will they though? costs a lot to change where you onshore the oil. And last I looked Norway were taxing oil at a heckuva lot higher rate than we are - I reckon we could stand to increase the take without rocking the boat.
That's why I wrote more than there willing to pay???.
I agree, we currently don't tax them enough, I think it's possible to squeeze a little bit more out of them.
Plus Norway don't forget actually own their oil!.. Like Saudi Arabia do or Venezuela do or Brazil do but not like Canada the UK or America do"Haha! thats the UK way though aint it - privatise all the things! even vital strategic resources lol | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Will they though? costs a lot to change where you onshore the oil. And last I looked Norway were taxing oil at a heckuva lot higher rate than we are - I reckon we could stand to increase the take without rocking the boat.
That's why I wrote more than there willing to pay???.
I agree, we currently don't tax them enough, I think it's possible to squeeze a little bit more out of them.
Plus Norway don't forget actually own their oil!.. Like Saudi Arabia do or Venezuela do or Brazil do but not like Canada the UK or America do
Haha! thats the UK way though aint it - privatise all the things! even vital strategic resources lol". Before laughing your socks off you might wanna do a little research into how Brazil Venezuela and Saudis economy is doing since the price crash! | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties." Ah now some have changed their minds and will now vote yes anyone that denys that go to youtube and type in " journey to yes" and tey and deny those were not no voters changed to a yes voter ? Its the hardcore yoons that will never change they will defend their their fleg and queen and love their Tory government to bits Those that have and those that are unsure you will be most welcome to join up with the YES movement and end this corrupt UK union lol | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties." Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. | |||
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"If this was 1980 I'd tell you straight, fuck the UK off and follow Norway's example of how to manage your oil. You'd still have the problem of re-nationalising the oil fields but future revenues would make it doable, get yourself a got wealth fund management and fuck the EU off (like Norway) and sit back on your laurels. . . However its 2018 and your boat sailed off with the Thatcher era "Thing is though... we might as well own the fields cos we end up having to subsidise the oil companies when the bottom drops out of the market. I don't know the terms of those subsidies - this isn't my field. But the way i see it, if we're investing public money, there needs to be harder terms and a far greater ROI. I don't trust Westminster to do that. | |||
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"If this was 1980 I'd tell you straight, fuck the UK off and follow Norway's example of how to manage your oil. You'd still have the problem of re-nationalising the oil fields but future revenues would make it doable, get yourself a got wealth fund management and fuck the EU off (like Norway) and sit back on your laurels. . . However its 2018 and your boat sailed off with the Thatcher era
Thing is though... we might as well own the fields cos we end up having to subsidise the oil companies when the bottom drops out of the market.
I don't know the terms of those subsidies - this isn't my field. But the way i see it, if we're investing public money, there needs to be harder terms and a far greater ROI.
I don't trust Westminster to do that.". I'll give you a clue, its called power. They have the ability to do whatever they want when they want... Not many politicians can stop them, for all the moaning about trump, nobody said shit when Obama caved in to BP,I say caved, I mean took the wonga | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties. Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. " What has the Tories done for Scotland ? Name one thing the 13Scottish Tory branch mps have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Also what has the Scottish Tory branch Msp done for Scotland ? The Scottish Tory branch councillors are racist bigoted dicks! And the jumped into bed with their old pals Scottish Labour branch in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire And the Tory MEP no one voted that dick in Scotland it was handed to him | |||
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"If this was 1980 I'd tell you straight, fuck the UK off and follow Norway's example of how to manage your oil. You'd still have the problem of re-nationalising the oil fields but future revenues would make it doable, get yourself a got wealth fund management and fuck the EU off (like Norway) and sit back on your laurels. . . However its 2018 and your boat sailed off with the Thatcher era
Thing is though... we might as well own the fields cos we end up having to subsidise the oil companies when the bottom drops out of the market.
I don't know the terms of those subsidies - this isn't my field. But the way i see it, if we're investing public money, there needs to be harder terms and a far greater ROI.
I don't trust Westminster to do that."It is already being subsidised, £400m a year, and the Nutter Nats are screaming "it's ours, it's all ours! Our oil, we'll subsidise it!" | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties. Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. What has the Tories done for Scotland ? Name one thing the 13Scottish Tory branch mps have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Also what has the Scottish Tory branch Msp done for Scotland ? The Scottish Tory branch councillors are racist bigoted dicks! And the jumped into bed with their old pals Scottish Labour branch in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire And the Tory MEP no one voted that dick in Scotland it was handed to him " I'm not Tory fan nor voter, but you can't deny that lots of Scots vote Tory am all levels of government, from local to MEP. | |||
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"Unfortunately it's not needed.The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stone.The age of oil is over.It will be left in the ground.You won't see any petrol cars in 2050." Very true | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties. Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. What has the Tories done for Scotland ? Name one thing the 13Scottish Tory branch mps have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Also what has the Scottish Tory branch Msp done for Scotland ? The Scottish Tory branch councillors are racist bigoted dicks! And the jumped into bed with their old pals Scottish Labour branch in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire And the Tory MEP no one voted that dick in Scotland it was handed to him I'm not Tory fan nor voter, but you can't deny that lots of Scots vote Tory am all levels of government, from local to MEP." What have they done for Scotland ? | |||
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"If this was 1980 I'd tell you straight, fuck the UK off and follow Norway's example of how to manage your oil. You'd still have the problem of re-nationalising the oil fields but future revenues would make it doable, get yourself a got wealth fund management and fuck the EU off (like Norway) and sit back on your laurels. . . However its 2018 and your boat sailed off with the Thatcher era
Thing is though... we might as well own the fields cos we end up having to subsidise the oil companies when the bottom drops out of the market.
I don't know the terms of those subsidies - this isn't my field. But the way i see it, if we're investing public money, there needs to be harder terms and a far greater ROI.
I don't trust Westminster to do that."arent the subsidies tax rebates and recommissioning rebates ? How do you get a ROI on that ? | |||
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"If this was 1980 I'd tell you straight, fuck the UK off and follow Norway's example of how to manage your oil. You'd still have the problem of re-nationalising the oil fields but future revenues would make it doable, get yourself a got wealth fund management and fuck the EU off (like Norway) and sit back on your laurels. . . However its 2018 and your boat sailed off with the Thatcher era
Thing is though... we might as well own the fields cos we end up having to subsidise the oil companies when the bottom drops out of the market.
I don't know the terms of those subsidies - this isn't my field. But the way i see it, if we're investing public money, there needs to be harder terms and a far greater ROI.
I don't trust Westminster to do that..
I'll give you a clue, its called power.
They have the ability to do whatever they want when they want... Not many politicians can stop them, for all the moaning about trump, nobody said shit when Obama caved in to BP,I say caved, I mean took the wonga"Ah but they don't have the power to do whatever they want though... not really. Its an illusion. EU referendum proved that one. | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties. Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. What has the Tories done for Scotland ? Name one thing the 13Scottish Tory branch mps have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Also what has the Scottish Tory branch Msp done for Scotland ? The Scottish Tory branch councillors are racist bigoted dicks! And the jumped into bed with their old pals Scottish Labour branch in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire And the Tory MEP no one voted that dick in Scotland it was handed to him I'm not Tory fan nor voter, but you can't deny that lots of Scots vote Tory am all levels of government, from local to MEP. What have they done for Scotland ? " That doesn't make a difference. The other poster said that Scotland would have been rid of the Tories, but that's not the case, as there are many Tory voters in Scotland. | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties. Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. What has the Tories done for Scotland ? Name one thing the 13Scottish Tory branch mps have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Also what has the Scottish Tory branch Msp done for Scotland ? The Scottish Tory branch councillors are racist bigoted dicks! And the jumped into bed with their old pals Scottish Labour branch in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire And the Tory MEP no one voted that dick in Scotland it was handed to him I'm not Tory fan nor voter, but you can't deny that lots of Scots vote Tory am all levels of government, from local to MEP. What have they done for Scotland ? That doesn't make a difference. The other poster said that Scotland would have been rid of the Tories, but that's not the case, as there are many Tory voters in Scotland." So CLCC do you agree the Tories have done nothing for Scotland ? | |||
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"If this was 1980 I'd tell you straight, fuck the UK off and follow Norway's example of how to manage your oil. You'd still have the problem of re-nationalising the oil fields but future revenues would make it doable, get yourself a got wealth fund management and fuck the EU off (like Norway) and sit back on your laurels. . . However its 2018 and your boat sailed off with the Thatcher era
Thing is though... we might as well own the fields cos we end up having to subsidise the oil companies when the bottom drops out of the market.
I don't know the terms of those subsidies - this isn't my field. But the way i see it, if we're investing public money, there needs to be harder terms and a far greater ROI.
I don't trust Westminster to do that.arent the subsidies tax rebates and recommissioning rebates ? How do you get a ROI on that ?"I dunno - like I say its not my field. But I mean... are we getting anything in return for these rebates? other than the promise of jobs - which makes it essentially ransom money. How about we stop giving them rebates and give em loans instead... the UK govt does still own RBS right? hasn't been entirely flogged off yet has it? | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties. Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. What has the Tories done for Scotland ? Name one thing the 13Scottish Tory branch mps have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Also what has the Scottish Tory branch Msp done for Scotland ? The Scottish Tory branch councillors are racist bigoted dicks! And the jumped into bed with their old pals Scottish Labour branch in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire And the Tory MEP no one voted that dick in Scotland it was handed to him I'm not Tory fan nor voter, but you can't deny that lots of Scots vote Tory am all levels of government, from local to MEP. What have they done for Scotland ? That doesn't make a difference. The other poster said that Scotland would have been rid of the Tories, but that's not the case, as there are many Tory voters in Scotland. So CLCC do you agree the Tories have done nothing for Scotland ? " I'm not playing your bait and switch, I've made my point. Perhaps you should ask your fellow Scots why they keep voting Tory if they do nothing for Scotland. | |||
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"If this was 1980 I'd tell you straight, fuck the UK off and follow Norway's example of how to manage your oil. You'd still have the problem of re-nationalising the oil fields but future revenues would make it doable, get yourself a got wealth fund management and fuck the EU off (like Norway) and sit back on your laurels. . . However its 2018 and your boat sailed off with the Thatcher era
Thing is though... we might as well own the fields cos we end up having to subsidise the oil companies when the bottom drops out of the market.
I don't know the terms of those subsidies - this isn't my field. But the way i see it, if we're investing public money, there needs to be harder terms and a far greater ROI.
I don't trust Westminster to do that.arent the subsidies tax rebates and recommissioning rebates ? How do you get a ROI on that ?
I dunno - like I say its not my field. But I mean... are we getting anything in return for these rebates? other than the promise of jobs - which makes it essentially ransom money.
How about we stop giving them rebates and give em loans instead... the UK govt does still own RBS right? hasn't been entirely flogged off yet has it?"I’m guessing it’s to help prevent a load of defunct oil rigs from rusting in our seas ... | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties. Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. What has the Tories done for Scotland ? Name one thing the 13Scottish Tory branch mps have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Also what has the Scottish Tory branch Msp done for Scotland ? The Scottish Tory branch councillors are racist bigoted dicks! And the jumped into bed with their old pals Scottish Labour branch in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire And the Tory MEP no one voted that dick in Scotland it was handed to him I'm not Tory fan nor voter, but you can't deny that lots of Scots vote Tory am all levels of government, from local to MEP. What have they done for Scotland ? That doesn't make a difference. The other poster said that Scotland would have been rid of the Tories, but that's not the case, as there are many Tory voters in Scotland. So CLCC do you agree the Tories have done nothing for Scotland ? I'm not playing your bait and switch, I've made my point. Perhaps you should ask your fellow Scots why they keep voting Tory if they do nothing for Scotland." We know why tactial voting to keep the SNP out Kezia Dugdale let slip on the UK election telling people in the highlands to go vote Tory and when they learned Alex Salmond lost his seat to a Tory yeah Kezia and the rest of the Red Tories were jumping for joy So CLCC what do you think the Tories have done for Scotland ? | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties. Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. What has the Tories done for Scotland ? Name one thing the 13Scottish Tory branch mps have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Also what has the Scottish Tory branch Msp done for Scotland ? The Scottish Tory branch councillors are racist bigoted dicks! And the jumped into bed with their old pals Scottish Labour branch in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire And the Tory MEP no one voted that dick in Scotland it was handed to him I'm not Tory fan nor voter, but you can't deny that lots of Scots vote Tory am all levels of government, from local to MEP. What have they done for Scotland ? That doesn't make a difference. The other poster said that Scotland would have been rid of the Tories, but that's not the case, as there are many Tory voters in Scotland. So CLCC do you agree the Tories have done nothing for Scotland ? I'm not playing your bait and switch, I've made my point. Perhaps you should ask your fellow Scots why they keep voting Tory if they do nothing for Scotland. We know why tactial voting to keep the SNP out Kezia Dugdale let slip on the UK election telling people in the highlands to go vote Tory and when they learned Alex Salmond lost his seat to a Tory yeah Kezia and the rest of the Red Tories were jumping for joy So CLCC what do you think the Tories have done for Scotland ?" Right, all tactical voting  | |||
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"Scotlands " nawbags " should be ashamed of themselves, giving this country more tory rule. They had the chance to rid this country forever of being ruled by tories but shat their " better together " panties. Scotland has Tory MPs, a Tory MEP, Tory MSPs, and Tory councillors. Like it or not, lots of Scots vote Tory. What has the Tories done for Scotland ? Name one thing the 13Scottish Tory branch mps have done for Scotland since being elected in June 2017 ? Also what has the Scottish Tory branch Msp done for Scotland ? The Scottish Tory branch councillors are racist bigoted dicks! And the jumped into bed with their old pals Scottish Labour branch in Aberdeen and North Lanarkshire And the Tory MEP no one voted that dick in Scotland it was handed to him I'm not Tory fan nor voter, but you can't deny that lots of Scots vote Tory am all levels of government, from local to MEP. What have they done for Scotland ? That doesn't make a difference. The other poster said that Scotland would have been rid of the Tories, but that's not the case, as there are many Tory voters in Scotland. So CLCC do you agree the Tories have done nothing for Scotland ? I'm not playing your bait and switch, I've made my point. Perhaps you should ask your fellow Scots why they keep voting Tory if they do nothing for Scotland. We know why tactial voting to keep the SNP out Kezia Dugdale let slip on the UK election telling people in the highlands to go vote Tory and when they learned Alex Salmond lost his seat to a Tory yeah Kezia and the rest of the Red Tories were jumping for joy So CLCC what do you think the Tories have done for Scotland ? Right, all tactical voting "Yeah unionists stick together Kezia proved that Like i said she told people to go vote Tory and jumped for joy when Salmond lost his seat You seem interested in debating that yet wont answer what has the Tories done for Scotland ? | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? " Oh am sorry where in the rule book does it have to stick to the thread 100% of the time ? Lol | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? " Yup same old crap. | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. " No one forces you to comment just remember that lol | |||
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"If this was 1980 I'd tell you straight, fuck the UK off and follow Norway's example of how to manage your oil. You'd still have the problem of re-nationalising the oil fields but future revenues would make it doable, get yourself a got wealth fund management and fuck the EU off (like Norway) and sit back on your laurels. . . However its 2018 and your boat sailed off with the Thatcher era
Thing is though... we might as well own the fields cos we end up having to subsidise the oil companies when the bottom drops out of the market.
I don't know the terms of those subsidies - this isn't my field. But the way i see it, if we're investing public money, there needs to be harder terms and a far greater ROI.
I don't trust Westminster to do that.arent the subsidies tax rebates and recommissioning rebates ? How do you get a ROI on that ?
I dunno - like I say its not my field. But I mean... are we getting anything in return for these rebates? other than the promise of jobs - which makes it essentially ransom money.
How about we stop giving them rebates and give em loans instead... the UK govt does still own RBS right? hasn't been entirely flogged off yet has it?
I’m guessing it’s to help prevent a load of defunct oil rigs from rusting in our seas ... "Ha! maybe lol. But meh - stuff em I say. I wouldn't get away with leaving stray rigs lying about in the North Sea - neither should they. Fine the bastards! lol | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. No one forces you to comment just remember that lol " Watching the whole forum laugh at you is pretty entertaining | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. No one forces you to comment just remember that lol Watching the whole forum laugh at you is pretty entertaining " Oh really i was getting accused of not answering questions but in here the double standards really are showing you wont answer a question lol | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. No one forces you to comment just remember that lol Watching the whole forum laugh at you is pretty entertaining Oh really i was getting accused of not answering questions but in here the double standards really are showing you wont answer a question lol " The question was "Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing?" I answered "Yup same old crap." | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. No one forces you to comment just remember that lol Watching the whole forum laugh at you is pretty entertaining Oh really i was getting accused of not answering questions but in here the double standards really are showing you wont answer a question lol The question was "Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing?" I answered "Yup same old crap."" You answer that but wont answer this lol So CLCC what do you think the Tories have done for Scotland? Lol | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. No one forces you to comment just remember that lol Watching the whole forum laugh at you is pretty entertaining Oh really i was getting accused of not answering questions but in here the double standards really are showing you wont answer a question lol The question was "Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing?" I answered "Yup same old crap." You answer that but wont answer this lol So CLCC what do you think the Tories have done for Scotland? Lol" They gave you a legally binding independence referendum! | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. No one forces you to comment just remember that lol Watching the whole forum laugh at you is pretty entertaining Oh really i was getting accused of not answering questions but in here the double standards really are showing you wont answer a question lol The question was "Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing?" I answered "Yup same old crap." You answer that but wont answer this lol So CLCC what do you think the Tories have done for Scotland? Lol They gave you a legally binding independence referendum! "Because Scottish government had a mandate for one just like the do now i have been through this with you it would be unwise to refuse one Is that it Nothing else ? Doesnt say alot eh ? Ok try this one since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ? | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. No one forces you to comment just remember that lol Watching the whole forum laugh at you is pretty entertaining Oh really i was getting accused of not answering questions but in here the double standards really are showing you wont answer a question lol The question was "Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing?" I answered "Yup same old crap." You answer that but wont answer this lol So CLCC what do you think the Tories have done for Scotland? Lol They gave you a legally binding independence referendum!
Because Scottish government had a mandate for one just like the do now i have been through this with you it would be unwise to refuse one
Is that it Nothing else ? Doesnt say alot eh ?
Ok try this one since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ? "I answered yours, how about you answer one of mine? How many ships are being built for the RN on the Clyde? | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. No one forces you to comment just remember that lol Watching the whole forum laugh at you is pretty entertaining Oh really i was getting accused of not answering questions but in here the double standards really are showing you wont answer a question lol The question was "Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing?" I answered "Yup same old crap." You answer that but wont answer this lol So CLCC what do you think the Tories have done for Scotland? Lol They gave you a legally binding independence referendum!
Because Scottish government had a mandate for one just like the do now i have been through this with you it would be unwise to refuse one
Is that it Nothing else ? Doesnt say alot eh ?
Ok try this one since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ?
I answered yours, how about you answer one of mine? How many ships are being built for the RN on the Clyde? "3 type 26 type frigates have been signed off way off the mark of the 13 type 26 frigates that were promised not that you give a shit Now that i have answered yours lets play fair eh Ok try this one since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ? | |||
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"Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing? Yup same old crap. No one forces you to comment just remember that lol Watching the whole forum laugh at you is pretty entertaining Oh really i was getting accused of not answering questions but in here the double standards really are showing you wont answer a question lol The question was "Is this thread finished as we’re back on the generic posturing?" I answered "Yup same old crap." You answer that but wont answer this lol So CLCC what do you think the Tories have done for Scotland? Lol They gave you a legally binding independence referendum!
Because Scottish government had a mandate for one just like the do now i have been through this with you it would be unwise to refuse one
Is that it Nothing else ? Doesnt say alot eh ?
Ok try this one since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ?
I answered yours, how about you answer one of mine? How many ships are being built for the RN on the Clyde?
3 type 26 type frigates have been signed off way off the mark of the 13 type 26 frigates that were promised not that you give a shit
Now that i have answered yours lets play fair eh
Ok try this one since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ?
"Wrong a total of 13 ships of all classes are being built for the RN on the Clyde. I don't support the Tories, I have never voted Tory, so why are you asking me what they have done since June 2017? The fact however remains, hundreds of thousands, or maybe even more, of your fellow Scots voted Tory. | |||
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"No no CLCC i answered your question if an gonna get accused of not answering questions then yeah i will point the double standards of shite in here of you alot not answering questions So CLCC since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ? Play fair now " What answer are you looking for here? They have all spoken to members of their constituency. There you go. Answered. | |||
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"No no CLCC i answered your question if an gonna get accused of not answering questions then yeah i will point the double standards of shite in here of you alot not answering questions So CLCC since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ? Play fair now What answer are you looking for here? They have all spoken to members of their constituency. There you go. Answered. " Really so they spoke to the WASPI women ? They spoke to their constituency for walking down the lobby to vote against protecting the single market ? And protecting the devolved powers ? Name ine thing you think they have done for Scotland aince June shouldnt be that hard right ? | |||
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"No no CLCC i answered your question if an gonna get accused of not answering questions then yeah i will point the double standards of shite in here of you alot not answering questions So CLCC since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ? Play fair now What answer are you looking for here? They have all spoken to members of their constituency. There you go. Answered. Really so they spoke to the WASPI women ? They spoke to their constituency for walking down the lobby to vote against protecting the single market ? And protecting the devolved powers ? Name ine thing you think they have done for Scotland aince June shouldnt be that hard right ? " I've answered, if you are happy, that's your problem. Right, next question. Would you vote for independence if it was going to, make Scotland £40bn a year poorer? | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ?.
Yes I'm saying they made tax on per barrel brought ashore (I think it's about 5 quid) plus tax on company profits which were shit coz they offset the capex against profits and made not alot .
Its not rocket science
Well that i dont beleive someone is cooking the books and the uk goverment are shafting us all thats my opinion do you have any evidence for this ?
Why hasn’t the Scottish government challenged? The paper itself suggests an independant review. Are they in on it ?
"I have no evidence at all its just my opinion that the goverment arent making any money for oil is load of crap and il not change my opinion ,its one of the reasons that they all pleaded and begged scots to vote no in 2014 | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ?.
Yes I'm saying they made tax on per barrel brought ashore (I think it's about 5 quid) plus tax on company profits which were shit coz they offset the capex against profits and made not alot .
Its not rocket science
Well that i dont beleive someone is cooking the books and the uk goverment are shafting us all thats my opinion do you have any evidence for this ?
Why hasn’t the Scottish government challenged? The paper itself suggests an independant review. Are they in on it ?
I have no evidence at all its just my opinion that the goverment arent making any money for oil is load of crap and il not change my opinion ,its one of the reasons that they all pleaded and begged scots to vote no in 2014 "The SNP lied to you, and told you oil would fund public services. That's not true. It would cost Scotland £400m a year. If you vote for independence knowing that, then you are deliberately choosing to close hospitals, sack teachers, nurses, fireman and police to fund the oil industry. Scottish tax payers money being taken from families, and given in dividends to oil industry shareholders. | |||
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"No no CLCC i answered your question if an gonna get accused of not answering questions then yeah i will point the double standards of shite in here of you alot not answering questions So CLCC since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ? Play fair now What answer are you looking for here? They have all spoken to members of their constituency. There you go. Answered. Really so they spoke to the WASPI women ? They spoke to their constituency for walking down the lobby to vote against protecting the single market ? And protecting the devolved powers ? Name ine thing you think they have done for Scotland aince June shouldnt be that hard right ? I've answered, if you are happy, that's your problem. Right, next question. Would you vote for independence if it was going to, make Scotland £40bn a year poorer?" There is no evidence of that so how can i answer that ? You do not have a clue what an independent Scotland would look like Now would you be happy to accept to Scitland being 12 bilkion a year worse off in a hard brexit ? Wanna me to answer that for you since you wont answer yes you are happy to screw Scotland over has you cant even come up with a solution to on how Scotland avoids being 12 billion a year worse off in a hard brexit The leak in the UK government analyes proves Scottish impact papers are right as it say leaving the EU will fuck over the UK in every single way Now what do you suppose Scotland does about this ? The UK government are saying bye bye to the single market and customs union so you really want Scotland to sit and wait and suffer ? Too afraid to go out in the bad world on your own ? Now yes i hope England does change its mind and quick but am i fuck gonna hang about waiting and hoping England changes its mind on brexit or tve single market not while Scotland can fuck off ffrom the brexit mess Your welcome to join us though and move up here in Scotland CLCC you will be very welcome | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ?.
Yes I'm saying they made tax on per barrel brought ashore (I think it's about 5 quid) plus tax on company profits which were shit coz they offset the capex against profits and made not alot .
Its not rocket science
Well that i dont beleive someone is cooking the books and the uk goverment are shafting us all thats my opinion do you have any evidence for this ?
Why hasn’t the Scottish government challenged? The paper itself suggests an independant review. Are they in on it ?
I have no evidence at all its just my opinion that the goverment arent making any money for oil is load of crap and il not change my opinion ,its one of the reasons that they all pleaded and begged scots to vote no in 2014
The SNP lied to you, and told you oil would fund public services. That's not true. It would cost Scotland £400m a year. If you vote for independence knowing that, then you are deliberately choosing to close hospitals, sack teachers, nurses, fireman and police to fund the oil industry. Scottish tax payers money being taken from families, and given in dividends to oil industry shareholders."This will be last time i will amswer you as you called me a liar for saying the uk expoted $13.3 billion of oil which was true ,you can go on about the mistical 400m ive already said i dont beleive it ,pls dont comment of any of my posts unless you are willing to apologize for calling me a liar | |||
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"No no CLCC i answered your question if an gonna get accused of not answering questions then yeah i will point the double standards of shite in here of you alot not answering questions So CLCC since June 2017 what have the 13 Scottish Tory branch MP done for Scotland ? Play fair now What answer are you looking for here? They have all spoken to members of their constituency. There you go. Answered. Really so they spoke to the WASPI women ? They spoke to their constituency for walking down the lobby to vote against protecting the single market ? And protecting the devolved powers ? Name ine thing you think they have done for Scotland aince June shouldnt be that hard right ? I've answered, if you are happy, that's your problem. Right, next question. Would you vote for independence if it was going to, make Scotland £40bn a year poorer? There is no evidence of that so how can i answer that ? You do not have a clue what an independent Scotland would look like Now would you be happy to accept to Scitland being 12 bilkion a year worse off in a hard brexit ? Wanna me to answer that for you since you wont answer yes you are happy to screw Scotland over has you cant even come up with a solution to on how Scotland avoids being 12 billion a year worse off in a hard brexit The leak in the UK government analyes proves Scottish impact papers are right as it say leaving the EU will fuck over the UK in every single way Now what do you suppose Scotland does about this ? The UK government are saying bye bye to the single market and customs union so you really want Scotland to sit and wait and suffer ? Too afraid to go out in the bad world on your own ? Now yes i hope England does change its mind and quick but am i fuck gonna hang about waiting and hoping England changes its mind on brexit or tve single market not while Scotland can fuck off ffrom the brexit mess Your welcome to join us though and move up here in Scotland CLCC you will be very welcome " Firstly, there is evidence, you just ignore it. Secondly, you can still answer as a hypothetical. So how about it, would you vote for independence knowing that would cost Scotland £40bn a year? | |||
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"How much did the treasury get from North sea oil last year? How much did uk make exporting oil in 2016/17? Yes, how much did the UK Treasury make? Are you not answering my ?i think the point is it’s the same question. With the answer being buttons. Def not buttons being exported that was neither your nor _lcc question though. It made c 0.1% of Scotland’s revenue in 2016. Or £59m If I’ve read paper correctly. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/apr/04/north-sea-oil-and-gas-industry-cost-taxpayer-396m-in-2016 It was a net DRAIN of £400m. It COST the UK taxpayer £400m last year. Scotland want to take that on, great I'm not sure what your point is here though... seeing as Osborne has slashed PRT to the point of "effectively abolishing" it (Osborne's words). And given that Westminster refuses to tax corporations... which I presume includes oil companies... why would HM treasury expect any revenue from the oil? having said that though... fantastic idea - lets have the powers to tax the oil and the oil companies up this way.
I'm sure that the people of England, Wales and NI will be happy that the people of Scotland want to pick up the £400m tab
Still dont beleive the £400m when they are exporting $13.3billion so someone is lying
You!
Pls say what i am lying about ?
The income to the treasury.
Easy to find it just google top exporters of crude oil ,il expect an apology from you once youv seen it .
Your bonkers daft.
You do know the UK nor Scotland own the oil don't you?.
Its owned by oil companies, we get tax per barrel brought ashore, if you or anybody else decides to put that tax up higher than they want to pay they'll simply pipe to Norway or dread the thought for you.... England
Are you really trying to say the uk goverment made no money from $13.3billion of exports ?.
Yes I'm saying they made tax on per barrel brought ashore (I think it's about 5 quid) plus tax on company profits which were shit coz they offset the capex against profits and made not alot .
Its not rocket science
Well that i dont beleive someone is cooking the books and the uk goverment are shafting us all thats my opinion do you have any evidence for this ?
Why hasn’t the Scottish government challenged? The paper itself suggests an independant review. Are they in on it ?
I have no evidence at all its just my opinion that the goverment arent making any money for oil is load of crap and il not change my opinion ,its one of the reasons that they all pleaded and begged scots to vote no in 2014
The SNP lied to you, and told you oil would fund public services. That's not true. It would cost Scotland £400m a year. If you vote for independence knowing that, then you are deliberately choosing to close hospitals, sack teachers, nurses, fireman and police to fund the oil industry. Scottish tax payers money being taken from families, and given in dividends to oil industry shareholders.
This will be last time i will amswer you as you called me a liar for saying the uk expoted $13.3 billion of oil which was true ,you can go on about the mistical 400m ive already said i dont beleive it ,pls dont comment of any of my posts unless you are willing to apologize for calling me a liar "I didn't call you a liar about the export, I said you were lying about the amount the treasury gets. They get nothing, £400m gets taken out of the treasury to pay for the oil industry. | |||
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"First off an independent wouldnt need to pay its fair share of that evil weapon called Trident money saved there already England can keep that shite Then Scotlands revenue wont be sent to the UK treasury it stays in Scotland another good saving as look at what the Tories are doing with the money right now Trillions in debt and borrowing more and fucking over the NHS No more giving the queen money fuck her she is unelected and couldnt give a damn about her and her family another good saving All powers come Home to Scotland Mon CLCC you know you wanna move to Scotland and make it a fairer and better country instead of wee lil England and that racist bunch of Tories and UKIPPERS " Wont be long until we have another referendum kinky prob called in october and date just before the brexit leaving date ,the yes movement have already started getting ready for it and this time we will win, give Westminster there nukes back lets see where they try put them lol | |||
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