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Michael Flynn pt3
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"deputy McCabe steps down early" Who's he / she then..... | |||
"deputy McCabe steps down early Who's he / she then....." Deputy Head of FBI. Hated by Trump because his wife was a Democratic Politician who allegedly received $700,000 in political funding support and therefore seen to be biased by Trump. | |||
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"Reputedly asked by Trump how he voted during the presidential election" He's a class act  | |||
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"So why do you think Andy jacked it in?" Because Trump told Sessions who told Wray who told Macabre "you're retiring early". Only Mueller left to get rid of then Trump's FBI purge is complete https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/30/politics/donald-trump-attorneys/index.html | |||
"So why do you think Andy jacked it in? Because Trump told Sessions who told Wray who told Macabre "you're retiring early". Only Mueller left to get rid of then Trump's FBI purge is complete https://edition.cnn.com/2018/01/30/politics/donald-trump-attorneys/index.html" . You don't think it's anything to do with the text messages between the two FBI agents mentioning an "Andy" then? | |||
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"Those same exchanges also make disparaging comments about Trump Hilary Bernie Ted Cruz, no more than idle chitter chatter and water cooler sniping and gossip. " . That's not really the same, the two FBI agents who were dismissed by Mueller for the remarks were actually talking about how to find the best way to impeach trump, they were talking about meetings of a secret society and they were talking about an accomplice called Andy. | |||
"I think that Trump is in the process of politicising federal justice in the USA. First he stacked the federal judiciary at all levels, now he is removing or forcing out the senior management of the FBI and justice department that are not loyal to him. It is nothing new, it is what all those who gain power through the ballot but that are corrupt and seek to become 'president for life' do. Donny has already told us that he sees nothing wrong in suspending elections in 2020 and his supporters will back him and they have guns." . Well that's one of things I was actually quite shocked about. The president has the right and the power to dismiss anybody, cancel any investigation and pardon any convicted | |||
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"you missed the bit yesterday where Mueller has flipped Paul Manafort's besty Rick Gates. Manafort is feeling the pressure now." This lawyer (Alex Van Der Zwaan) lied about something to do with Gates and works for the firm Manafort used for his shady work for the pro Russia Ukrainian President Yanukovych... | |||
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"This lawyer (Alex Van Der Zwaan) lied about something to do with Gates and works for the firm Manafort used for his shady work for the pro Russia Ukrainian President Yanukovych..." 30 days prison and $20,000 fine. Of course the 30 days nick means loss of licence to practice law in any part of the USA and that will have a knock on effect across the rest of the world. So that's his career gone too. Seems the cost of getting in bed with trump is expensive indeed. | |||
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"And Trump has rolled out the pardon pen... It must be getting hot in the Oval Office!" the scooter libby one is weird.... because it is widely accepted he was not the whistleblower in the CIA case, and where bush jr didn't pardon him, he did commute his sentence... and his lawyers licence was given back to him..... it is more a message to manifort, flynn that he will pardon people if they don't crack in the mueller case..... | |||
"it is more a message to manifort, flynn that he will pardon people if they don't crack in the mueller case....." Agreed. But I wonder if Trump realises how it can backfire on him. Anyone he pardons loses their right to claim the right to claim 5 and so may be forced to answer the very questions that Trump wants them to keep stum on! | |||
"And Trump has rolled out the pardon pen... It must be getting hot in the Oval Office! the scooter libby one is weird.... because it is widely accepted he was not the whistleblower in the CIA case, and where bush jr didn't pardon him, he did commute his sentence... and his lawyers licence was given back to him..... it is more a message to manifort, flynn that he will pardon people if they don't crack in the mueller case....." But only federal cases, not state ones. | |||
"And Trump has rolled out the pardon pen... It must be getting hot in the Oval Office! the scooter libby one is weird.... because it is widely accepted he was not the whistleblower in the CIA case, and where bush jr didn't pardon him, he did commute his sentence... and his lawyers licence was given back to him..... it is more a message to manifort, flynn that he will pardon people if they don't crack in the mueller case..... But only federal cases, not state ones. " True, but evidence discovered in a federal grand jury can be passed to state prosecutors. | |||
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"cohen hearing today.... judge basically refuses every single cohen and trump lawyer request....... and cohen on had 3 clients .... and the secret 3rd client was sean hannity.... and i have giggling all night...... "Yet Hannity is claiming he never paid him a penny, he never represented him, he was just a long-term friend who he asked legal questions of, and expected that these were privileged  | |||
Centy, do you still think this is a non story with no legs?
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"Anyone remember that meeting in Trump Tower with the Russians... Seems a whole raft of emails between the Russian lawyer and the Kremlin have been released by an anti Putin group... Apparently they show that not only was she acting for the Kremlin but that the Trump team knew and may even have been in direct contact with Putin or his inner circle. Added to that the fact that Trump basically torpedoed his own legal case to stop the fed getting access to Cohen's records and that Cohen used to record all meetings and has kept all old phones it looks as if Donny's meltdown on Fax yesterday may be because he knows that PC999 is about to come knocking with the bracelets and an invitation for the Trumpsters to spend some time in a small room with a spy-hole in the door, a toilet in the corner and a camera to record them using it...
Centy, do you still think this is a non story with no legs?
"A centipede has less legs than this story. Mueller has done an absolutely phenomenal job in less than a year to get the charges and convictions hes had. And we can all see the noose getting tighter and tighter. The only thing to consider is if the Dems want to impeach after the midterms or neuter his agenda and keep him for annhilation in 2020. | |||
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"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion?" No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation. | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation." . Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks | |||
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"I mean the opcw couldn't find any chemicals whatsoever at the alleged western bombed site?. Yet we were sure it was used for chemical manufacturing.... That lovely honest liberal macron was categorical about it" yeah... because it wasn't like the russians and syrians wouldn't allow the OPCW access to the sites until 17 days after the alledged attacks..... in fact the OPCW were in a hotel 8 days before they were allowed... so why did the russians veto the resolution put there by 5 countries asking for the joint commission that was in place till last november... also... if the russians are all over this OPCW report, then why are they disputing the OPCW report about salisbury? one right and one wrong then?  | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks "How is that similar? | |||
"I mean the opcw couldn't find any chemicals whatsoever at the alleged western bombed site?. Yet we were sure it was used for chemical manufacturing.... That lovely honest liberal macron was categorical about it yeah... because it wasn't like the russians and syrians wouldn't allow the OPCW access to the sites until 17 days after the alledged attacks..... in fact the OPCW were in a hotel 8 days before they were allowed... so why did the russians veto the resolution put there by 5 countries asking for the joint commission that was in place till last november... also... if the russians are all over this OPCW report, then why are they disputing the OPCW report about salisbury? one right and one wrong then? ". That's fake news. The opcw were prevented firstly by the bombing by us UK and France the night before they were due and then secondly by a un task force which reported a "large crowd at the first site" and came under "small arms fire" at the second site. The Russians have been vetoing the joint investigative body that the Americans were insisting came with the opcw investigation. This particular body is a long standing argument between Russia and the USA. | |||
" The Russians have been vetoing the joint investigative body that the Americans were insisting came with the opcw investigation. This particular body is a long standing argument between Russia and the USA." if you are going to post then please don't try and insult peoples inteligence... and please don't lie... you see... the wording of the UN resolution was this... ""the Council would established the United Nations independent mechanism for an initial period of one year. It would request the Secretary-General to make recommendations about the mechanism including its terms of reference, based on the principles of impartiality, independence and professionalism, to identify those responsible for the use of chemical weapons in Syria. Condemning the use of such weapons in the strongest terms, the Council would also have expressed full support for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) fact-finding mission, which was already investigating the Douma incident. It calls on all parties in Syria to fully cooperate with both investigations and allow them immediate, unfettered, safe and secure access to all relevant witnesses, evidence, reporting, materials and sites" this is exactly the same organisation with the same set up that was in place in syria for 18 months until its mandate ran out in november... no one was asking for anything more than what was in place before.... not one thing.... | |||
" The Russians have been vetoing the joint investigative body that the Americans were insisting came with the opcw investigation. This particular body is a long standing argument between Russia and the USA. if you are going to post then please don't try and insult peoples inteligence... and please don't lie... you see... the wording of the UN resolution was this... ""the Council would established the United Nations independent mechanism for an initial period of one year. It would request the Secretary-General to make recommendations about the mechanism including its terms of reference, based on the principles of impartiality, independence and professionalism, to identify those responsible for the use of chemical weapons in Syria. Condemning the use of such weapons in the strongest terms, the Council would also have expressed full support for the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) fact-finding mission, which was already investigating the Douma incident. It calls on all parties in Syria to fully cooperate with both investigations and allow them immediate, unfettered, safe and secure access to all relevant witnesses, evidence, reporting, materials and sites" this is exactly the same organisation with the same set up that was in place in syria for 18 months until its mandate ran out in november... no one was asking for anything more than what was in place before.... not one thing...." . The long standing argument is exactly that, the joint investigative committees into the findings of khan sheikehouns alleged gas attack, in which the committee freely excepts they found Syria guilty without ever actually going to the site!. Now the Russians want that joint investigative committee separated from the opcw. Nobody. No lies no insulting intelligence, I just simply corrected your statement that the Russians and Syrians had blocked the opcw for "17 days". And as I said before the opcw has not found any traces of anything in the supposed chemical factories bombed by the USA UK and France. Wants more, that news hasn't even been reported anywhere from what I can Google. 2-1 the reds, great result | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar? "Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. ". Yes no yes, it's very similar | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar"How? | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? ". Why do you think it's different | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? .
Why do you think it's different "This is essentially a select committee made up of 2 parties where one party said the investigation is over, and the other party said more investigation is needed. Nothing to do with the intervention in Libya was anything to do with a select committee investigation. Also as mentioned, the more important investigation is the special prosecutor Mueller. Again, the decision to intervene in Libya had nothing to do with a special prosecutor. | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? .
Why do you think it's different
This is essentially a select committee made up of 2 parties where one party said the investigation is over, and the other party said more investigation is needed.
Nothing to do with the intervention in Libya was anything to do with a select committee investigation.
Also as mentioned, the more important investigation is the special prosecutor Mueller. Again, the decision to intervene in Libya had nothing to do with a special prosecutor. ". Nah | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? .
Why do you think it's different
This is essentially a select committee made up of 2 parties where one party said the investigation is over, and the other party said more investigation is needed.
Nothing to do with the intervention in Libya was anything to do with a select committee investigation.
Also as mentioned, the more important investigation is the special prosecutor Mueller. Again, the decision to intervene in Libya had nothing to do with a special prosecutor. .
Nah"Glad you see you have finally recognised they are not in the slightest bit similar | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? .
Why do you think it's different
This is essentially a select committee made up of 2 parties where one party said the investigation is over, and the other party said more investigation is needed.
Nothing to do with the intervention in Libya was anything to do with a select committee investigation.
Also as mentioned, the more important investigation is the special prosecutor Mueller. Again, the decision to intervene in Libya had nothing to do with a special prosecutor. .
Nah
Glad you see you have finally recognised they are not in the slightest bit similar ". Nah, your wrong there just the same | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? .
Why do you think it's different
This is essentially a select committee made up of 2 parties where one party said the investigation is over, and the other party said more investigation is needed.
Nothing to do with the intervention in Libya was anything to do with a select committee investigation.
Also as mentioned, the more important investigation is the special prosecutor Mueller. Again, the decision to intervene in Libya had nothing to do with a special prosecutor. .
Nah
Glad you see you have finally recognised they are not in the slightest bit similar .
Nah, your wrong there just the same"Do you mean 'they are'? | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? .
Why do you think it's different
This is essentially a select committee made up of 2 parties where one party said the investigation is over, and the other party said more investigation is needed.
Nothing to do with the intervention in Libya was anything to do with a select committee investigation.
Also as mentioned, the more important investigation is the special prosecutor Mueller. Again, the decision to intervene in Libya had nothing to do with a special prosecutor. .
Nah
Glad you see you have finally recognised they are not in the slightest bit similar .
Nah, your wrong there just the same
Do you mean 'they are'?". No | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation." just a quick point of correction needed... it was the house intelligence committee that wrote it and only the republican half... the senate intelligence committee are also producing their own report.. and theirs is still bi-partisan.... anyway mueller is going to be a huge deal, there is no one out there who believes he isn't going to be charges with "obstruction of justice" at least... it will be what else they will try and charge him with... for example perjury, | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? .
Why do you think it's different
This is essentially a select committee made up of 2 parties where one party said the investigation is over, and the other party said more investigation is needed.
Nothing to do with the intervention in Libya was anything to do with a select committee investigation.
Also as mentioned, the more important investigation is the special prosecutor Mueller. Again, the decision to intervene in Libya had nothing to do with a special prosecutor. .
Nah
Glad you see you have finally recognised they are not in the slightest bit similar .
Nah, your wrong there just the same
Do you mean 'they are'?.
No"I think you did! | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? .
Why do you think it's different
This is essentially a select committee made up of 2 parties where one party said the investigation is over, and the other party said more investigation is needed.
Nothing to do with the intervention in Libya was anything to do with a select committee investigation.
Also as mentioned, the more important investigation is the special prosecutor Mueller. Again, the decision to intervene in Libya had nothing to do with a special prosecutor. .
Nah
Glad you see you have finally recognised they are not in the slightest bit similar .
Nah, your wrong there just the same
Do you mean 'they are'?.
No
I think you did! ". I didn't | |||
"I thought I read the other day the official report come out saying there was no Russian collusion? No, that was the conclusion of the republicans on the Senate intelligence committee. The democrats said that the investigation hadn't been completed. Still Mueller is the big investigation.. Ah that's a bit like the intelligence on Libya then that turned out 5 years later in parliament to be complete bollocks
How is that similar?
Perhaps you realise it's not similar at all anymore. .
Yes no yes, it's very similar
How? .
Why do you think it's different
This is essentially a select committee made up of 2 parties where one party said the investigation is over, and the other party said more investigation is needed.
Nothing to do with the intervention in Libya was anything to do with a select committee investigation.
Also as mentioned, the more important investigation is the special prosecutor Mueller. Again, the decision to intervene in Libya had nothing to do with a special prosecutor. .
Nah
Glad you see you have finally recognised they are not in the slightest bit similar .
Nah, your wrong there just the same
Do you mean 'they are'?.
No
I think you did! .
I didn't"You you are not saying you DON'T believe "they are just the same"? You agree with me that they are totally different!  | |||
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"Nice to see Rudy finally give up the game with regards to the stormy Daniel payments... So we know he lied there.. so that’s campaign elections violation law and obstruction of justice so far... wonderl what else they will nail him with It’s like every time either he or his reps go on Fox News something else comes out to make his case worse " But Trump said he didn't pay it, Cohen said Trump didn't know about it, now they are contradicting themselves! | |||
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"One thing is for sure if by the her actions the trump administration was brought down she would definitely have to go into hiding "By her actions?? What has she done? | |||
"One thing is for sure if by the her actions the trump administration was brought down she would definitely have to go into hiding
By her actions?? What has she done?"Which woman are we talking about? Stormy Daniels? | |||
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"No legs story latest... Cohen (Trumps lawyer) collected millions for access to the President. The payments were made in instalments so as not to trigger federal payments disclosure requirements and justice department corruption investigations... No wonder Trump and his mates on the hill are trying to suppress the Muller investigation and the evidence it has uncovered so far." Slightly juicier than that... Remember that the Donald has only just acknowledged that he did actually pay back Cohen the $130,000... Reason likely admitting this is because the $130,000 that Cohen paid to Daniels came from his “Essential Consultants” Account and that account received millions of dollars from corporate entities including an aluminium company with ties to Vladimir Putin. Had Donald not admitted that he paid Cohen back then there would be a trail of money from Russia, through Trump’s Attorney to a hush payment made on behalf of Trump. (Source Time Magazine and reported in other places) | |||
"Slightly juicier than that... Remember that the Donald has only just acknowledged that he did actually pay back Cohen the $130,000... Reason likely admitting this is because the $130,000 that Cohen paid to Daniels came from his “Essential Consultants” Account and that account received millions of dollars from corporate entities including an aluminium company with ties to Vladimir Putin. Had Donald not admitted that he paid Cohen back then there would be a trail of money from Russia, through Trump’s Attorney to a hush payment made on behalf of Trump. (Source Time Magazine and reported in other places)" This is totally separate and includes $1.35 million paid by the Russian oligarch who was served with a subpoena and interviewed when he flew into a private NY airport earlier in the year and a $1.2 million payment by AT&T while their takeover bid of Time Warner was being investigated by Trumps DoJ (AT&T's lawyers have confirmed they made the payments that added up to this amount as has the Russian). | |||
"Slightly juicier than that... Remember that the Donald has only just acknowledged that he did actually pay back Cohen the $130,000... Reason likely admitting this is because the $130,000 that Cohen paid to Daniels came from his “Essential Consultants” Account and that account received millions of dollars from corporate entities including an aluminium company with ties to Vladimir Putin. Had Donald not admitted that he paid Cohen back then there would be a trail of money from Russia, through Trump’s Attorney to a hush payment made on behalf of Trump. (Source Time Magazine and reported in other places) This is totally separate and includes $1.35 million paid by the Russian oligarch who was served with a subpoena and interviewed when he flew into a private NY airport earlier in the year and a $1.2 million payment by AT&T while their takeover bid of Time Warner was being investigated by Trumps DoJ (AT&T's lawyers have confirmed they made the payments that added up to this amount as has the Russian)." I saw one suggestion that maybe AT&T also had am affair with Stormy Daniels | |||
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"the problem for manifort with the allegations of "witness tampering" is you wouldn't be able to bring that sort of charge unless that had evidence you were doing it.... and the people who he was alledged to have tried to tamper are co-operating.... also... the sentence for the tampering crime is the same as if you had done the actual crime deed itself.... he is so screwed..... he is praying on that trump pardon coming!! but the optics on that is going to look really really bad" They have people he contacted who have already given evidence to say that he tried to tamper with their statements. They also have phone records and messages sent over the encrypted chat app Telegram. Sadly for Manafort encryption doesnt matter if the other person just shows it to the feds. Muellers clearly aiming to get Manafort to flip. The way he's handled him is text book stuff. Manafort faces the potential of spending the rest of his life in jail, cooperating or taking a pardon. Jails not gonna suit him too well. Cooperating would likely see him serve a little jail time bit not much, but would also probably bring down Trump (because Mueller isnt going to deal unless its someone that matters). If he takes a pardon things get interesting. He'd be admitting guilt, he'd still be vulnerable to state charges and he would lose his 5th amendment rights because he cant incriminate himself on an issue hes already admitted guilt for. | |||
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"Manafort has been taken into federal custody for breaching his bail conditions and witness tampering! "LoL! I wonder how he will be getting on in Canaan... I hear it is a rather unpleasant reputation for extreme violence. | |||
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"something that may have gone under the radar a bit today..... who said this "As the son of a Polish holocaust survivor, the images and sounds of this family separation policy is heart wrenching, While I strongly support measures that will secure our porous borders, children should never be used as bargaining chips." it was michael cohen in his resignation letter to the RNC from the post as one of their financial chair... so.... is this the first sign that he flips? will trump respond via tweet..... " Cohen? Financial chair?  | |||
"Cohen? Financial chair?" I did not know that. But it makes sense, after all the Trumpster would need his fixer to be in place to sort out any irregularities that may have cropped or are cropping up while using the RNC to launder the money being funnelled to him and his campaign through the NRA (and who knows where else) from Russia. No legs on Michael Flynn... Not only has he legs, he's got wings and maybe even a ballistic missile rammed right up his proverbial! | |||
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"no legs??" Way back at the start of the first thread, a poster said "LOL when I read that on the BBC this morning I thought, bet you cannot wait to post on this uneventful move along" To which I replied "The National Security Advisor illegally having spoken to a foreign power, then lying about it, making the VP lie about it, and having to resign less than 4 weeks into a new presidency is "uneventful"? I think this story has legs." And they said "In what way?" The threads have continued about illegal activity in the Trump administration and campaign, which has gone on for some time, and so the story did indeed have legs. | |||
"no legs?? Way back at the start of the first thread, a poster said "LOL when I read that on the BBC this morning I thought, bet you cannot wait to post on this uneventful move along" To which I replied "The National Security Advisor illegally having spoken to a foreign power, then lying about it, making the VP lie about it, and having to resign less than 4 weeks into a new presidency is "uneventful"? I think this story has legs." And they said "In what way?" The threads have continued about illegal activity in the Trump administration and campaign, which has gone on for some time, and so the story did indeed have legs. " It didn't have legs about Russian collusion though, which is what people like you were screaming about in the first place. None of the convictions you posted about point to any Russian collusion. The Russian collusion story never had any legs. | |||
"no legs?? Way back at the start of the first thread, a poster said "LOL when I read that on the BBC this morning I thought, bet you cannot wait to post on this uneventful move along" To which I replied "The National Security Advisor illegally having spoken to a foreign power, then lying about it, making the VP lie about it, and having to resign less than 4 weeks into a new presidency is "uneventful"? I think this story has legs." And they said "In what way?" The threads have continued about illegal activity in the Trump administration and campaign, which has gone on for some time, and so the story did indeed have legs. It didn't have legs about Russian collusion though, which is what people like you were screaming about in the first place. None of the convictions you posted about point to any Russian collusion. The Russian collusion story never had any legs. "
You see, people are still claiming that the story doesn't have legs!
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"It didn't have legs about Russian collusion though, which is what people like you were screaming about in the first place. None of the convictions you posted about point to any Russian collusion. The Russian collusion story never had any legs. " No Centy. There is a reason that CinC Bonespurs President Fart is now claiming he can sack Mueller and run the probe himself. He knows that Mueller already has the evidence (supplied by his own lawyers) to convict Junior and Kushner of of conspiring with a foreign power to interfere in the 2016 election and I expect that it is only a matter of time until Mueller produces the smoking gun that proves Senior knew everything from the start. The fact that the only time the Special Councils Office releases any information is when they file indictments and there have 24 unsealed indicted so far speaks volumes. But you keep the faith with the racist squatting in the Oval Office and every time the noose is tightened round his traitorous neck we will remind you of exactly who you are so quick to support. | |||
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"no legs?? Way back at the start of the first thread, a poster said "LOL when I read that on the BBC this morning I thought, bet you cannot wait to post on this uneventful move along" To which I replied "The National Security Advisor illegally having spoken to a foreign power, then lying about it, making the VP lie about it, and having to resign less than 4 weeks into a new presidency is "uneventful"? I think this story has legs." And they said "In what way?" The threads have continued about illegal activity in the Trump administration and campaign, which has gone on for some time, and so the story did indeed have legs. It didn't have legs about Russian collusion though, which is what people like you were screaming about in the first place. None of the convictions you posted about point to any Russian collusion. The Russian collusion story never had any legs. " The Russian collusion story didn’t go any further today.... but the campaign finance violations story did... so we can say stormy Daniels and karen mcdougall were right all along, and Cohen said under oath that trump directed him to commit the crimes As Cohen lawyer said... if it is a crime for Cohen then it would be crime for trump.... At this point trump is basically an unindicted co conspirator | |||
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"it is convention that a sitting president cannot be indited.... but that is only "convention".. and also the statue of limitation on this would remain in place till he was to leave office... and there is nothing to sat you can't indite an "outgoing" president.......
basically trump is in huge trouble.... and if cohen lawyer as is claiming the money came from the trump organisation itself, that is potential bank and wire fraud, "Fuck "convention" - give trump some of his own medicine! | |||
"it is convention that a sitting president cannot be indited.... but that is only "convention".. and also the statue of limitation on this would remain in place till he was to leave office... and there is nothing to sat you can't indite an "outgoing" president.......
basically trump is in huge trouble.... and if cohen lawyer as is claiming the money came from the trump organisation itself, that is potential bank and wire fraud,
Fuck "convention" - give trump some of his own medicine! "#lockhimup | |||
"you missed the bit yesterday where Mueller has flipped Paul Manafort's besty Rick Gates. Manafort is feeling the pressure now." Manafort will be feeling more than that now ... especially when he is picking up the soap | |||
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"mueller indicts info-wars jerome corsi for perjury" technically now quite true... yet Corsi says he expects to be charged, and that someone in the mueller team has told him to expect the notification..... but it has not been done offically yet! I don't think they would announce it in isolation, i think there may be a few more coming along with it (don jr? jared?) | |||
"mueller indicts info-wars jerome corsi for perjury technically now quite true... yet Corsi says he expects to be charged, and that someone in the mueller team has told him to expect the notification..... but it has not been done offically yet! I don't think they would announce it in isolation, i think there may be a few more coming along with it (don jr? jared?)" he's just trying to curry some wider public sympathy before he get's his collar felt and his internet access is restricted as part of his bail conditions...classic righty conspiracy nutjob tactic | |||
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"well..... that flynn sentencing court appearance really blew up in this defence lawyers teams face.... when the judge asks "did you ever consider a treason charge?" you know its bad.... the judge was fuming!!!! basically he all but in effect threw out the pleading agreement!!!! the fox news/trump narrative today really really backfired!" Lt Gen's who conspire with 'Hostile Foreign Powers' to corrupt elections, subvert foreign policy and undermine public confidence in the probity of the government to the benefit of that 'Hostile Foreign Power' would in my view most certainly be guilty of Treason. Regardless of how successful the conspiracy was the offence is absolute, and that is because of the breaking of the oath to defend ones country. This is just my opinion, but I suspect it is shared by every man and woman who has sworn an 'Oath of Allegiance' to any country. | |||
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"well..... that flynn sentencing court appearance really blew up in this defence lawyers teams face.... when the judge asks "did you ever consider a treason charge?" you know its bad.... the judge was fuming!!!! basically he all but in effect threw out the pleading agreement!!!! the fox news/trump narrative today really really backfired! Lt Gen's who conspire with 'Hostile Foreign Powers' to corrupt elections, subvert foreign policy and undermine public confidence in the probity of the government to the benefit of that 'Hostile Foreign Power' would in my view most certainly be guilty of Treason. Regardless of how successful the conspiracy was the offence is absolute, and that is because of the breaking of the oath to defend ones country. This is just my opinion, but I suspect it is shared by every man and woman who has sworn an 'Oath of Allegiance' to any country. " Totally this..
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"you know we love coming back to this thread..... but just keep an eye on the story buzzfeed news put out last night alledging the president told cohen to lie to the congress about the dealings regarding the trump tower moscow project.... because if it is true.... and it has some corroboration from other sources, then not only is that a slam dunk for "obstruction of justice".... but more importantly that is also be Subornation of Perjury, which is a biggie! basically.... in effect that's what they got President Nixon for in Watergate! if true, there is no way that republican lawmakers could justify standing in the way of any impeachment" Fake news seemingly. Seemed a bit dodgy to me when only one news outlet came out with it - and it being not a traditionally reliable one. | |||
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"Its maybe time BuzzFeed were banned from Twitter, Facebook and YouTube for spreading fake news, which I might add was instantly spread by the MSM as truth despite it never being confirmed by a second source!. " The two journalists who wrote the story have been writing about the Trump Tower story for a while and theyve been consistently ahead of the pack on this. Also if you'd read the story you'd know that they have 2 sources. And if you read Muellers Offices reply they didnt say the whole thing was wrong but that specific statements and charachtrisations were innaccurate. But that could be a tactical response. This may turn out to be wrong but for the moment Buzzfeed is standing by its story. Its a false equivalency to compare it to the likes of Alex Jones who testified that he plays a character and is entertainment instead of news but then promotes easily disproved conspiracy theories. | |||
"Its maybe time BuzzFeed were banned from Twitter, Facebook and YouTube for spreading fake news, which I might add was instantly spread by the MSM as truth despite it never being confirmed by a second source!. The two journalists who wrote the story have been writing about the Trump Tower story for a while and theyve been consistently ahead of the pack on this. Also if you'd read the story you'd know that they have 2 sources. And if you read Muellers Offices reply they didnt say the whole thing was wrong but that specific statements and charachtrisations were innaccurate. But that could be a tactical response. This may turn out to be wrong but for the moment Buzzfeed is standing by its story. Its a false equivalency to compare it to the likes of Alex Jones who testified that he plays a character and is entertainment instead of news but then promotes easily disproved conspiracy theories." . No I think you need to put your Tim foil hat on if your taking this story seriously!, unless your applying different standards in stories, which frankly I've suspected for awhile. Personally I don't mind bullshit stories, I'd rather counter them with facts. | |||
"Its maybe time BuzzFeed were banned from Twitter, Facebook and YouTube for spreading fake news, which I might add was instantly spread by the MSM as truth despite it never being confirmed by a second source!. The two journalists who wrote the story have been writing about the Trump Tower story for a while and theyve been consistently ahead of the pack on this. Also if you'd read the story you'd know that they have 2 sources. And if you read Muellers Offices reply they didnt say the whole thing was wrong but that specific statements and charachtrisations were innaccurate. But that could be a tactical response. This may turn out to be wrong but for the moment Buzzfeed is standing by its story. Its a false equivalency to compare it to the likes of Alex Jones who testified that he plays a character and is entertainment instead of news but then promotes easily disproved conspiracy theories.. No I think you need to put your Tim foil hat on if your taking this story seriously!, unless your applying different standards in stories, which frankly I've suspected for awhile. Personally I don't mind bullshit stories, I'd rather counter them with facts." Ill defer to Muellers statement unless something changes. Im asduming its not true, or at least that Muellers office doesnt have evidence of this. But its still a false equivalency to compare buzzfeed to the likes of Alex Jones and it was factually wrong to day the story wasnt corroborated by a second source when it was. | |||
"Its maybe time BuzzFeed were banned from Twitter, Facebook and YouTube for spreading fake news, which I might add was instantly spread by the MSM as truth despite it never being confirmed by a second source!. The two journalists who wrote the story have been writing about the Trump Tower story for a while and theyve been consistently ahead of the pack on this. Also if you'd read the story you'd know that they have 2 sources. And if you read Muellers Offices reply they didnt say the whole thing was wrong but that specific statements and charachtrisations were innaccurate. But that could be a tactical response. This may turn out to be wrong but for the moment Buzzfeed is standing by its story. Its a false equivalency to compare it to the likes of Alex Jones who testified that he plays a character and is entertainment instead of news but then promotes easily disproved conspiracy theories.. No I think you need to put your Tim foil hat on if your taking this story seriously!, unless your applying different standards in stories, which frankly I've suspected for awhile. Personally I don't mind bullshit stories, I'd rather counter them with facts. Ill defer to Muellers statement unless something changes. Im asduming its not true, or at least that Muellers office doesnt have evidence of this. But its still a false equivalency to compare buzzfeed to the likes of Alex Jones and it was factually wrong to day the story wasnt corroborated by a second source when it was." . No it wasn't, Muller said your a tin foil wearing conspiracy theorist, your worse than Alex Jones, just go home put some tin foil on your head and relax!. | |||
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Charged this morning with 7 counts in the investigation including obstruction, making false statements and witness tampering
He was the supposed middle man between the trump campaign and wikileaks....
And the noose tightened
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"Next one up.... roger stone
Charged this morning with 7 counts in the investigation including obstruction, making false statements and witness tampering
He was the supposed middle man between the trump campaign and wikileaks....
And the noose tightened
If they got stone this morning, then I am guessing don jr isn’t going to be far behind "Exciting isn't it, what was it 26 armed feds, 17 vehicles and CNN recording the whole event. A tad over the top for a 70 year old guy without any firearms in his home and his wife present. Drug cartels don't even get that sort of treatment. | |||
" Exciting isn't it, what was it 26 armed feds, 17 vehicles and CNN recording the whole event. A tad over the top for a 70 year old guy without any firearms in his home and his wife present. Drug cartels don't even get that sort of treatment. " other than CNN recording it actually there is a prefectly explanable reason as to why it happened this way, the reasoning being is that there was also a SWAT team at the same time outside his new york home with a search warrant in most cases he would have been asked to appear at a certain time, but the FBI thought is that had happened he would have destroyed any potential evidence they thought he may still have....... or he would have called to new york for someone to do the same thing... actually its the same thing they did when they went they arrested michael cohen..... minus CNN in tow.... | |||
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" Exciting isn't it, what was it 26 armed feds, 17 vehicles and CNN recording the whole event. A tad over the top for a 70 year old guy without any firearms in his home and his wife present. Drug cartels don't even get that sort of treatment. other than CNN recording it actually there is a prefectly explanable reason as to why it happened this way, the reasoning being is that there was also a SWAT team at the same time outside his new york home with a search warrant in most cases he would have been asked to appear at a certain time, but the FBI thought is that had happened he would have destroyed any potential evidence they thought he may still have....... or he would have called to new york for someone to do the same thing... actually its the same thing they did when they went they arrested michael cohen..... minus CNN in tow.... " . He's had two years to destroy the evidence!! That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, his main indictments are for lying to a Congressional hearing, he's in his 60s and the judge didn't even consider him a flight risk as he was bailed without even handing over money. This is the power of the state intimidating its own citizens. They've had two and a half years, three if you include the illegal FISA warrants before he was even elected and got zero evidence for collision, they've got people for lying, tax evasion, and S&M sexual activity which is standard politican behaviour .
You'd dig up more with a probe this size and a 3 year investigation of the conservative or Labour party. | |||
" Exciting isn't it, what was it 26 armed feds, 17 vehicles and CNN recording the whole event. A tad over the top for a 70 year old guy without any firearms in his home and his wife present. Drug cartels don't even get that sort of treatment. other than CNN recording it actually there is a prefectly explanable reason as to why it happened this way, the reasoning being is that there was also a SWAT team at the same time outside his new york home with a search warrant in most cases he would have been asked to appear at a certain time, but the FBI thought is that had happened he would have destroyed any potential evidence they thought he may still have....... or he would have called to new york for someone to do the same thing... actually its the same thing they did when they went they arrested michael cohen..... minus CNN in tow.... . He's had two years to destroy the evidence!! That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, his main indictments are for lying to a Congressional hearing, he's in his 60s and the judge didn't even consider him a flight risk as he was bailed without even handing over money. This is the power of the state intimidating its own citizens. They've had two and a half years, three if you include the illegal FISA warrants before he was even elected and got zero evidence for collision, they've got people for lying, tax evasion, and S&M sexual activity which is standard politican behaviour .
You'd dig up more with a probe this size and a 3 year investigation of the conservative or Labour party."See... that whole time thing would be plausible if not for one thing Cohen didn’t destroy his... and if they are charging stone with witness tampering and they put the text messages in the indictment.. then someone didn’t destroy them either | |||
" Exciting isn't it, what was it 26 armed feds, 17 vehicles and CNN recording the whole event. A tad over the top for a 70 year old guy without any firearms in his home and his wife present. Drug cartels don't even get that sort of treatment. other than CNN recording it actually there is a prefectly explanable reason as to why it happened this way, the reasoning being is that there was also a SWAT team at the same time outside his new york home with a search warrant in most cases he would have been asked to appear at a certain time, but the FBI thought is that had happened he would have destroyed any potential evidence they thought he may still have....... or he would have called to new york for someone to do the same thing... actually its the same thing they did when they went they arrested michael cohen..... minus CNN in tow.... . He's had two years to destroy the evidence!! That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, his main indictments are for lying to a Congressional hearing, he's in his 60s and the judge didn't even consider him a flight risk as he was bailed without even handing over money. This is the power of the state intimidating its own citizens. They've had two and a half years, three if you include the illegal FISA warrants before he was even elected and got zero evidence for collision, they've got people for lying, tax evasion, and S&M sexual activity which is standard politican behaviour .
You'd dig up more with a probe this size and a 3 year investigation of the conservative or Labour party.
See... that whole time thing would be plausible if not for one thing
Cohen didn’t destroy his... and if they are charging stone with witness tampering and they put the text messages in the indictment.. then someone didn’t destroy them either ". Again we're not in disagreement, the theatre and spectacle is grandiose on the states interest, they want to flip stone, drag him out for millions of dollars in legal fees. They don't call it the wheels of machinery for nothing. What's really highlighted here is how deeply woven the deep state is, they contact CNN before the guys attorney, this is no different than cliff Richards case with the BBC, it's guilt by association and the spectacle. | |||
" Exciting isn't it, what was it 26 armed feds, 17 vehicles and CNN recording the whole event. A tad over the top for a 70 year old guy without any firearms in his home and his wife present. Drug cartels don't even get that sort of treatment. other than CNN recording it actually there is a prefectly explanable reason as to why it happened this way, the reasoning being is that there was also a SWAT team at the same time outside his new york home with a search warrant in most cases he would have been asked to appear at a certain time, but the FBI thought is that had happened he would have destroyed any potential evidence they thought he may still have....... or he would have called to new york for someone to do the same thing... actually its the same thing they did when they went they arrested michael cohen..... minus CNN in tow.... . He's had two years to destroy the evidence!! That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, his main indictments are for lying to a Congressional hearing, he's in his 60s and the judge didn't even consider him a flight risk as he was bailed without even handing over money. This is the power of the state intimidating its own citizens. They've had two and a half years, three if you include the illegal FISA warrants before he was even elected and got zero evidence for collision, they've got people for lying, tax evasion, and S&M sexual activity which is standard politican behaviour .
You'd dig up more with a probe this size and a 3 year investigation of the conservative or Labour party.
See... that whole time thing would be plausible if not for one thing
Cohen didn’t destroy his... and if they are charging stone with witness tampering and they put the text messages in the indictment.. then someone didn’t destroy them either .
Again we're not in disagreement, the theatre and spectacle is grandiose on the states interest, they want to flip stone, drag him out for millions of dollars in legal fees.
They don't call it the wheels of machinery for nothing.
What's really highlighted here is how deeply woven the deep state is, they contact CNN before the guys attorney, this is no different than cliff Richards case with the BBC, it's guilt by association and the spectacle."Think the difference between Stone and Richards is with the latter they were looking for evidence and didn't find any to charge him, whereas with Stone they had enough to charge him and were looking for more.. The media aspect with Stone probably has links to the Fbi being slagged off by Trump and them yes wanting to put pressure on but will possibly justify the media being theriwith the nature of possible collusion with Russia.. | |||
" Exciting isn't it, what was it 26 armed feds, 17 vehicles and CNN recording the whole event. A tad over the top for a 70 year old guy without any firearms in his home and his wife present. Drug cartels don't even get that sort of treatment. other than CNN recording it actually there is a prefectly explanable reason as to why it happened this way, the reasoning being is that there was also a SWAT team at the same time outside his new york home with a search warrant in most cases he would have been asked to appear at a certain time, but the FBI thought is that had happened he would have destroyed any potential evidence they thought he may still have....... or he would have called to new york for someone to do the same thing... actually its the same thing they did when they went they arrested michael cohen..... minus CNN in tow.... . He's had two years to destroy the evidence!! That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, his main indictments are for lying to a Congressional hearing, he's in his 60s and the judge didn't even consider him a flight risk as he was bailed without even handing over money. This is the power of the state intimidating its own citizens. They've had two and a half years, three if you include the illegal FISA warrants before he was even elected and got zero evidence for collision, they've got people for lying, tax evasion, and S&M sexual activity which is standard politican behaviour .
You'd dig up more with a probe this size and a 3 year investigation of the conservative or Labour party.
See... that whole time thing would be plausible if not for one thing
Cohen didn’t destroy his... and if they are charging stone with witness tampering and they put the text messages in the indictment.. then someone didn’t destroy them either .
Again we're not in disagreement, the theatre and spectacle is grandiose on the states interest, they want to flip stone, drag him out for millions of dollars in legal fees.
They don't call it the wheels of machinery for nothing.
What's really highlighted here is how deeply woven the deep state is, they contact CNN before the guys attorney, this is no different than cliff Richards case with the BBC, it's guilt by association and the spectacle.
Think the difference between Stone and Richards is with the latter they were looking for evidence and didn't find any to charge him, whereas with Stone they had enough to charge him and were looking for more..
The media aspect with Stone probably has links to the Fbi being slagged off by Trump and them yes wanting to put pressure on but will possibly justify the media being theriwith the nature of possible collusion with Russia.. "CNN media outlet controlled by the dems. | |||
" Exciting isn't it, what was it 26 armed feds, 17 vehicles and CNN recording the whole event. A tad over the top for a 70 year old guy without any firearms in his home and his wife present. Drug cartels don't even get that sort of treatment. other than CNN recording it actually there is a prefectly explanable reason as to why it happened this way, the reasoning being is that there was also a SWAT team at the same time outside his new york home with a search warrant in most cases he would have been asked to appear at a certain time, but the FBI thought is that had happened he would have destroyed any potential evidence they thought he may still have....... or he would have called to new york for someone to do the same thing... actually its the same thing they did when they went they arrested michael cohen..... minus CNN in tow.... . He's had two years to destroy the evidence!! That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, his main indictments are for lying to a Congressional hearing, he's in his 60s and the judge didn't even consider him a flight risk as he was bailed without even handing over money. This is the power of the state intimidating its own citizens. They've had two and a half years, three if you include the illegal FISA warrants before he was even elected and got zero evidence for collision, they've got people for lying, tax evasion, and S&M sexual activity which is standard politican behaviour .
You'd dig up more with a probe this size and a 3 year investigation of the conservative or Labour party.
See... that whole time thing would be plausible if not for one thing
Cohen didn’t destroy his... and if they are charging stone with witness tampering and they put the text messages in the indictment.. then someone didn’t destroy them either .
Again we're not in disagreement, the theatre and spectacle is grandiose on the states interest, they want to flip stone, drag him out for millions of dollars in legal fees.
They don't call it the wheels of machinery for nothing.
What's really highlighted here is how deeply woven the deep state is, they contact CNN before the guys attorney, this is no different than cliff Richards case with the BBC, it's guilt by association and the spectacle.
Think the difference between Stone and Richards is with the latter they were looking for evidence and didn't find any to charge him, whereas with Stone they had enough to charge him and were looking for more..
The media aspect with Stone probably has links to the Fbi being slagged off by Trump and them yes wanting to put pressure on but will possibly justify the media being theriwith the nature of possible collusion with Russia.. CNN media outlet controlled by the dems."Controlled? Certainly politically alighned.. That's the same with the GOP and other outlets though.. | |||
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"I guess it has nothing to do with Russian collusion then. " Well if stone was the middle person between the trump campaign and wikileaks, who got the hacked DNC emails from Russia... then yes, it does play a part in the link of collusion... By the way, conspiracy in helping a foreign country influence a campaign is a problem | |||
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"I guess it has nothing to do with Russian collusion then. Well if stone was the middle person between the trump campaign and wikileaks, who got the hacked DNC emails from Russia... then yes, it does play a part in the link of collusion... By the way, conspiracy in helping a foreign country influence a campaign is a problem " . Except three things, none of his indictments are for this, there for telling lies to a Congressional hearing (quick somebody get Clinton she told right whoppers in the Benghazi hearing). Wikileaks deny getting them from Russia and wikileaks don't need a middle man, they publish material they get from whistle blowers, last time I looked everything they published about the DNC emails was true, if anything Hillary Clinton and the DNC defrauded the Sanders guy by stealing 200 million of his donations and Hillary Clinton and the DNC were the ones who payed the Russians for information on trump while the untied states intelligence agencies illegally(have we seen the FISA evidence yet?) spied on its own citizens (trump and manafort). It's been two years and they've found zero evidence for collusion, Mueller is about to wrap it up apparently but I've no doubt it will be dragged along to the 2020 campaign for more propaganda of bombshell breaking news. | |||
"I guess it has nothing to do with Russian collusion then. Well if stone was the middle person between the trump campaign and wikileaks, who got the hacked DNC emails from Russia... then yes, it does play a part in the link of collusion... By the way, conspiracy in helping a foreign country influence a campaign is a problem . Except three things, none of his indictments are for this, there for telling lies to a Congressional hearing (quick somebody get Clinton she told right whoppers in the Benghazi hearing). Wikileaks deny getting them from Russia and wikileaks don't need a middle man, they publish material they get from whistle blowers, last time I looked everything they published about the DNC emails was true, if anything Hillary Clinton and the DNC defrauded the Sanders guy by stealing 200 million of his donations and Hillary Clinton and the DNC were the ones who payed the Russians for information on trump while the untied states intelligence agencies illegally(have we seen the FISA evidence yet?) spied on its own citizens (trump and manafort). It's been two years and they've found zero evidence for collusion, Mueller is about to wrap it up apparently but I've no doubt it will be dragged along to the 2020 campaign for more propaganda of bombshell breaking news." ooooh.... interesting spin.... few holes in there though old sport... 1) the indictment suggests "someone" at wikileaks (Assange) was in contact with stone.... who was in contact with the trump campaign... 2) the trump campaign then knew that files were going to be released, but stone told them (he may not of know exactly what, but knew stuff was coming) 3) when trump gave the "russia can you hear me, find the clinton e-mails" speech... the GRU tried to hack the DNC servers again the same day! 4) the FISA warrants were not being used to spy on manafort.... they were being used to spy on the russian ambassador, who happened to be talking to manafort!!!! 5) the only people who believe clinton lied at all are the alt right crowd... are you one of them? just because even at the end of countless republican based enquiries, they found nothing..... they have proof manafort lied, the have proof stone lied, they had proof of manafort witness tampering, which is why he pleaded guilty to it in the washington DC case... they have proof stone was witness tampering with all the text messages they published in the indictment!!! | |||
"I guess it has nothing to do with Russian collusion then. Well if stone was the middle person between the trump campaign and wikileaks, who got the hacked DNC emails from Russia... then yes, it does play a part in the link of collusion... By the way, conspiracy in helping a foreign country influence a campaign is a problem . Except three things, none of his indictments are for this, there for telling lies to a Congressional hearing (quick somebody get Clinton she told right whoppers in the Benghazi hearing). Wikileaks deny getting them from Russia and wikileaks don't need a middle man, they publish material they get from whistle blowers, last time I looked everything they published about the DNC emails was true, if anything Hillary Clinton and the DNC defrauded the Sanders guy by stealing 200 million of his donations and Hillary Clinton and the DNC were the ones who payed the Russians for information on trump while the untied states intelligence agencies illegally(have we seen the FISA evidence yet?) spied on its own citizens (trump and manafort). It's been two years and they've found zero evidence for collusion, Mueller is about to wrap it up apparently but I've no doubt it will be dragged along to the 2020 campaign for more propaganda of bombshell breaking news. ooooh.... interesting spin.... few holes in there though old sport... 1) the indictment suggests "someone" at wikileaks (Assange) was in contact with stone.... who was in contact with the trump campaign... 2) the trump campaign then knew that files were going to be released, but stone told them (he may not of know exactly what, but knew stuff was coming) 3) when trump gave the "russia can you hear me, find the clinton e-mails" speech... the GRU tried to hack the DNC servers again the same day! 4) the FISA warrants were not being used to spy on manafort.... they were being used to spy on the russian ambassador, who happened to be talking to manafort!!!! 5) the only people who believe clinton lied at all are the alt right crowd... are you one of them? just because even at the end of countless republican based enquiries, they found nothing..... they have proof manafort lied, the have proof stone lied, they had proof of manafort witness tampering, which is why he pleaded guilty to it in the washington DC case... they have proof stone was witness tampering with all the text messages they published in the indictment!!! " . I suggest you actually watch the Clinton Benghazi hearing on C-SPAN yourself before making assertions that she didn't lie to a Congressional hearing (I mean she does like a bit of sniper fire in Bosnia as well ).
I never said manafort didn't lie or stone or Flynn, what I said was this is how the state works, they crush you into financial Oblivion while crushing you with federal "crimes" I mean there's 500,000 federal crimes in America, they could probably get you on about twenty if they wanted they just choose not to because your of no consequence to them.
We don't know about the FISA warrants because they've been redacted and classified, a few senators who have seen them seem to think contrary to your claim and why would wikileaks be in contact with Roger stone? Assange denies all of it.
The DNC servers have never been under FBI scrutiny or NSA or CIA it was all done by a third party private company called crowd strike, they have no proof that would stand up in court that it was Russia or the GNU that hacked the DNC.
They have no evidence at all that trump was in cahoots with ANYBODY let alone the Russians, how do I know this? Because there indictmenting people like Roger stone over witness tampering and lying to a Congressional hearing while sending dozens of armed officers in dawn raids to an old man's house, lord knows what dilemma the left would have been in if there'd shot his wife!. | |||
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"Well well well zero evidence of collusion?." According to a GOP partisan report that has refused to look at a lot of evidence or interview many witnesses and refused to pass its transcripts to Mueller. And is now having a collective fit because the house has reopened its investigation and passing its work over to the Special Council. So maybe not so much evidence of zero collusion, but more evidence of how systemically corrupt the GOP has become in the era of the 'Tea Party' and Trump. | |||
"Well well well zero evidence of collusion?. According to a GOP partisan report that has refused to look at a lot of evidence or interview many witnesses and refused to pass its transcripts to Mueller. And is now having a collective fit because the house has reopened its investigation and passing its work over to the Special Council. So maybe not so much evidence of zero collusion, but more evidence of how systemically corrupt the GOP has become in the era of the 'Tea Party' and Trump." . They have access to every intelligence interception,300,000 documents that are classified, in their own words zero evidence of collusion!. Mueller has found zero evidence of collusion. Maybe your right and the evidence is there but yet not found, maybe it's a giant conspiracy like the flat earth | |||
"They have access to every intelligence interception,300,000 documents that are classified, in their own words zero evidence of collusion!. Mueller has found zero evidence of collusion. Maybe your right and the evidence is there but yet not found, maybe it's a giant conspiracy like the flat earth "You must be following a different investigation than me, because from where I am sitting I have heard 1 judge tell 1 former Trump national security advisor that in the judges view he should have been charged with treason. Another has been found to have been passing information to and coordinating with the Russians. So many have been found to have lied to various investigation to cover up the above. I have also noted that with the exception of Flynn as the indictments flow out the charges and jail time get more serious. I expect it is only a matter of time before the treason charges come and that he knows the noose is tightening round him. That is the reason Trump and the GOP are in full attack mode. I can't see either surviving Trump or his family facing treason indictments regardless of pardon powers being used to stop any cases going to trial. | |||
"They have access to every intelligence interception,300,000 documents that are classified, in their own words zero evidence of collusion!. Mueller has found zero evidence of collusion. Maybe your right and the evidence is there but yet not found, maybe it's a giant conspiracy like the flat earth
You must be following a different investigation than me, because from where I am sitting I have heard 1 judge tell 1 former Trump national security advisor that in the judges view he should have been charged with treason. Another has been found to have been passing information to and coordinating with the Russians. So many have been found to have lied to various investigation to cover up the above. I have also noted that with the exception of Flynn as the indictments flow out the charges and jail time get more serious. I expect it is only a matter of time before the treason charges come and that he knows the noose is tightening round him. That is the reason Trump and the GOP are in full attack mode.
I can't see either surviving Trump or his family facing treason indictments regardless of pardon powers being used to stop any cases going to trial.". It's possible, the one I'm following is a bipartisan one where as the one you appear to be following is one made of bias republicans hell bent on conspiracy?. | |||
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"Now that this investigation is coming to a close. I'm not sure what the end result is good for some bad for others. It took two years to conclude, goodness knows how much money and for what? Is it now time to start an investigation into the dealings of the Clintons, particularly HRC?" Actually the Grand Jury has just been extended by six months, so the drawing to a close may be a little premature. Secondly this investigation has cost the US tax payer nothing, in fact I believe that when the fines imposed and the value of property sized is fully realised that it is in profit to the tune of some $46 million. Thirdly, 2 years is very quick for a special investigation. The Clinton Whitewater investigation took 4 years and cost $60 million, Watergate took 3 1/2 years and the Iran Contra investigation took over 6 years. | |||
" . He's had two years to destroy the evidence!! That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, his main indictments are for lying to a Congressional hearing, he's in his 60s and the judge didn't even consider him a flight risk as he was bailed without even handing over money. This is the power of the state intimidating its own citizens. They've had two and a half years, three if you include the illegal FISA warrants before he was even elected and got zero evidence for collision, they've got people for lying, tax evasion, and S&M sexual activity which is standard politican behaviour .
You'd dig up more with a probe this size and a 3 year investigation of the conservative or Labour party."This is going to come as a disappointment to our favourite tin foil hat wearer bob.... but it look as if the Feds are saying in further information given that stone DID have direct communication with wikileaks.... and more interesting DID have direct communication with gucifer 2, which is the Russians who hacked the DNC emails So disappointing........... So that link between stone, Russia, wikileaks and the trump campaign... hmmmmm | |||
" . He's had two years to destroy the evidence!! That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, his main indictments are for lying to a Congressional hearing, he's in his 60s and the judge didn't even consider him a flight risk as he was bailed without even handing over money. This is the power of the state intimidating its own citizens. They've had two and a half years, three if you include the illegal FISA warrants before he was even elected and got zero evidence for collision, they've got people for lying, tax evasion, and S&M sexual activity which is standard politican behaviour .
You'd dig up more with a probe this size and a 3 year investigation of the conservative or Labour party.
This is going to come as a disappointment to our favourite tin foil hat wearer bob.... but it look as if the Feds are saying in further information given that stone DID have direct communication with wikileaks.... and more interesting DID have direct communication with gucifer 2, which is the Russians who hacked the DNC emails
So disappointing...........
So that link between stone, Russia, wikileaks and the trump campaign... hmmmmm ". Hahahaha the only tin foil hat wearers are you lot watching CNN. 3 threads 2 and a half years and zero evidence except "it looks like" and "the walls are closing in" and "Russians". Your bloody flat earthers, if they ever do find evidence I'll be the first to say lock him up... Or sail me off the edge | |||
" . He's had two years to destroy the evidence!! That's the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard, his main indictments are for lying to a Congressional hearing, he's in his 60s and the judge didn't even consider him a flight risk as he was bailed without even handing over money. This is the power of the state intimidating its own citizens. They've had two and a half years, three if you include the illegal FISA warrants before he was even elected and got zero evidence for collision, they've got people for lying, tax evasion, and S&M sexual activity which is standard politican behaviour .
You'd dig up more with a probe this size and a 3 year investigation of the conservative or Labour party.
This is going to come as a disappointment to our favourite tin foil hat wearer bob.... but it look as if the Feds are saying in further information given that stone DID have direct communication with wikileaks.... and more interesting DID have direct communication with gucifer 2, which is the Russians who hacked the DNC emails
So disappointing...........
So that link between stone, Russia, wikileaks and the trump campaign... hmmmmm .
Hahahaha the only tin foil hat wearers are you lot watching CNN.
3 threads 2 and a half years and zero evidence except "it looks like" and "the walls are closing in" and "Russians".
Your bloody flat earthers, if they ever do find evidence I'll be the first to say lock him up... Or sail me off the edge "I'm wondering what excuses and conspiracy theories the likes of Fabio will come out with when Trump wins a 2nd term as President. | |||
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