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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
David Davis is being questioned right now by the Exiting the EU committee and he is floundering badly.
Brexiter or Remainer - this is cringeworthy television.
His words “excruciating detail” are coming back to him in a way he probably never imagined. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
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I see a contempt of parliament motion coming....
it is a riveting watch, but is it like watching a slow motion car crash..... |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
Yes, this really is quite shocking. I'm not sure which is worse:
1) That no sector specific impact assessments were done
or
2) That DD said previously that they had been done.
But hey... the leave voters all knew exactly what they were voting for. So that's OK then.
-Matt |
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"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
I see a contempt of parliament motion coming....
it is a riveting watch, but is it like watching a slow motion car crash....."
Davis seems contemptuous of every department and everyone except for himself, the sneer on his face when Steven Timms asked for a clarification. |
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over a year ago
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"Yes, this really is quite shocking. I'm not sure which is worse:
1) That no sector specific impact assessments were done
or
2) That DD said previously that they had been done.
But hey... the leave voters all knew exactly what they were voting for. So that's OK then.
-Matt"
You mean he actually lied about impact assessments which could well assist us in navigating this economic change correctly the first time round?
He lied about doing his job?
I want him sacked, if I bullshitted I'd done a report then handed nothing in then i'd be sacked. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"He is getting a very easy ride from the Conservative committee members."
he is.... i was shocked that peter bone, and especially jacob rees-mogg, who is always meticulous basically tried to bail him out...
thats not what committee is there for! they are suppose to ask the really hard questions!! another example of party over country... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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not surprised considering Mogg has recently been meeting with the likes of Bannon etc. on fact finding missions of how to subvert the democratic process to install the far-right into power |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
So the take away from this is that despite assumptions made by parliament, it was just a play on words and no impact assessmnts have been undertaken whereas the analysis of the impact of Brexit has been. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"So the take away from this is that despite assumptions made by parliament, it was just a play on words and no impact assessmnts have been undertaken whereas the analysis of the impact of Brexit has been."
the last answer was telling.... no analysis made before cabinet decision to pull out of SM/CU..... so that decision seems to be a purely political one...
also did i hear that they are making a lot of their decisions on the impact studies switzerland did on their own economy???? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept |
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"Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept "
Complete nonsense. I suppose you'd like to have the UK's Brexit papers laid out all over the desk next time the press have a photo opportunity. David Davis had his papers in his bag under the table, only a fool would have them on the table while the press are there taking photos. |
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"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded "
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong. |
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"Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept
Complete nonsense. I suppose you'd like to have the UK's Brexit papers laid out all over the desk next time the press have a photo opportunity. David Davis had his papers in his bag under the table, only a fool would have them on the table while the press are there taking photos. "
Utter garbage he had no papers with him only his toilet paper to wipe the shit from his slimy gob |
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He can't have it both ways. One set of comments is a lie / twisted truth.
They either exist in 'excruciating detail' and he won't hand them over, or they don't exist, or something different to what he first described exists. Both / all can't be true.
I imagine a sector by sector analysis exists - automotive, fisheries, agriculture, finance etc.
I can understand him not wanting to hand it over as it shows our hand too much. But, since he's been 'told' to, it makes for a 'tricky' situation..... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong. "
We haven't left yet! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept
Complete nonsense. I suppose you'd like to have the UK's Brexit papers laid out all over the desk next time the press have a photo opportunity. David Davis had his papers in his bag under the table, only a fool would have them on the table while the press are there taking photos. "
No not really...but then id like him to go into a meeting prepared....the fool never carried a bag or anything else...i suppose he wrote them on the back of a fag packet......to the majority of the press core and the public that's what impression there getting....but don't try to spin it again...these fuckers along with the brexiters of this country have backed us into a corner with there ideological views |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong. "
An impact assessment is more than just an economic forecast.
For example an impact assessment could say something like: "For the automotive industry, if we leave the customs union that will affect the 150 trucks a day that turn up at car plant X" or "For the NHS leaving Euratom would affect the supply of radioisotopes for medical imaging. These would then cost more / be harder to source / slower to get / etc".
The point being to look at each of the industries. Even (shock! horror!) ask them what the impact of leaving the EU would be to them and collate it all in one place so that an overall picture could be formed.
No doubt there would be benefits to leaving the EU to certain players in industries or sectors. But if you can get an overall picture then you can see how much that works out.
Even if you get the exact financial figures wrong, or have to estimate or forecast them based on incomplete data, at least you can try and put together a picture of what is going to happen. And the process of doing so will help to work out what bits are going to be easy or hard.
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong.
We haven't left yet!"
There wrong when Centuar wants them to be wrong....is this the same guy who was harping on about Morgan Stanley  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept
Complete nonsense. I suppose you'd like to have the UK's Brexit papers laid out all over the desk next time the press have a photo opportunity. David Davis had his papers in his bag under the table, only a fool would have them on the table while the press are there taking photos. "
you could just admit you didn't watch the proceedings of the committee today..... no one would think less of you I swear....
because making it up and bold face lying only makes you look worse!!
or you could retract what you said..... |
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"Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept
Complete nonsense. I suppose you'd like to have the UK's Brexit papers laid out all over the desk next time the press have a photo opportunity. David Davis had his papers in his bag under the table, only a fool would have them on the table while the press are there taking photos.
you could just admit you didn't watch the proceedings of the committee today..... no one would think less of you I swear....
because making it up and bold face lying only makes you look worse!!
or you could retract what you said..... "
Did you even bother to read the post I quoted? The post I quoted was clearly not referring to today's proceedings.  |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept
Complete nonsense. I suppose you'd like to have the UK's Brexit papers laid out all over the desk next time the press have a photo opportunity. David Davis had his papers in his bag under the table, only a fool would have them on the table while the press are there taking photos.
you could just admit you didn't watch the proceedings of the committee today..... no one would think less of you I swear....
because making it up and bold face lying only makes you look worse!!
or you could retract what you said.....
Did you even bother to read the post I quoted? The post I quoted was clearly not referring to today's proceedings. "
well since the topic is about TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS.... was it not a silly thing to have chimed in if you have no idea of what was said.......
but it is nice of you to admit that you are talking from a point of ignorance on what was said today.... just parroting the same normal pish without knowing subject or context.... 
p.s you may want to check in hansard and see what he did say today... i think you'll find it enlightening... |
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"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong.
We haven't left yet!"
Then why did the Bank of England and Remain economists publicly admit to having their "Michael Fish moment" over Brexit. The forecasts they made about Brexit would have had to be wrong for them to publicly admit to having a Micheal Fish moment. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong.
We haven't left yet!
Then why did the Bank of England and Remain economists publicly admit to having their "Michael Fish moment" over Brexit. The forecasts they made about Brexit would have had to be wrong for them to publicly admit to having a Micheal Fish moment. "
again you do realise you are commenting on proceeding you have admitted 5 minutes ago you didn't watch today! |
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"Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept
Complete nonsense. I suppose you'd like to have the UK's Brexit papers laid out all over the desk next time the press have a photo opportunity. David Davis had his papers in his bag under the table, only a fool would have them on the table while the press are there taking photos.
you could just admit you didn't watch the proceedings of the committee today..... no one would think less of you I swear....
because making it up and bold face lying only makes you look worse!!
or you could retract what you said.....
Did you even bother to read the post I quoted? The post I quoted was clearly not referring to today's proceedings.
well since the topic is about TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS.... was it not a silly thing to have chimed in if you have no idea of what was said.......
but it is nice of you to admit that you are talking from a point of ignorance on what was said today.... just parroting the same normal pish without knowing subject or context....
p.s you may want to check in hansard and see what he did say today... i think you'll find it enlightening..."
It was olderforyounger who 'chimed in' with that comment which I replied to which was not about today's proceedings. If you think it's a silly thing to bring into the thread I suggest you take it up with him as he was the one who first commented on it.  |
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"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong.
We haven't left yet!
Then why did the Bank of England and Remain economists publicly admit to having their "Michael Fish moment" over Brexit. The forecasts they made about Brexit would have had to be wrong for them to publicly admit to having a Micheal Fish moment.
again you do realise you are commenting on proceeding you have admitted 5 minutes ago you didn't watch today! "
Where did I admit to either watching or not watching today's proceedings???? Can you quote me where I've admitted either on the thread? |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
True to form - The Brexit Committee has reported back that by a majority of 2 (10 Conservatives / 8 opposition MP's) - David Davis has not misled Parliament. All Conservatives supported him and all opposition MP's were against him. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong.
We haven't left yet!
Then why did the Bank of England and Remain economists publicly admit to having their "Michael Fish moment" over Brexit. The forecasts they made about Brexit would have had to be wrong for them to publicly admit to having a Micheal Fish moment.
again you do realise you are commenting on proceeding you have admitted 5 minutes ago you didn't watch today!
Where did I admit to either watching or not watching today's proceedings???? Can you quote me where I've admitted either on the thread? "
okay.... i'll ask you bluntly.... did you watch todays proceedings? |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
"True to form - The Brexit Committee has reported back that by a majority of 2 (10 Conservatives / 8 opposition MP's) - David Davis has not misled Parliament. All Conservatives supported him and all opposition MP's were against him. "
And people say that the EU is self-serving and corrupt. The same EU who published Brexit impact assessments without fear of "showing their hand" months ago and used those reports to shape their Brexit negotiating position. (Probably in the absolute knowledge that no-one from the UK team would read them anyway). The same EU that will give every EU country a vote on the final Brexit deal whereas the one parliament who it will really impact will be denied a vote. |
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"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong.
We haven't left yet!
Then why did the Bank of England and Remain economists publicly admit to having their "Michael Fish moment" over Brexit. The forecasts they made about Brexit would have had to be wrong for them to publicly admit to having a Micheal Fish moment.
again you do realise you are commenting on proceeding you have admitted 5 minutes ago you didn't watch today!
Where did I admit to either watching or not watching today's proceedings???? Can you quote me where I've admitted either on the thread? "
I think it would be better if you didn’t comment as your allwayscwrong and make crap up we all read it in here your making yourself look a fool |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"True to form - The Brexit Committee has reported back that by a majority of 2 (10 Conservatives / 8 opposition MP's) - David Davis has not misled Parliament. All Conservatives supported him and all opposition MP's were against him. "
there is not 1 conservative that campaigned for remain on that committee... are you surprised? contempt would have meant that davies would have almost certainly have to go... so them and sammy wilson of the DUP have a vested interest keeping him in place... which is why they were almost trying to bail him out with their questioning today.... |
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"Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept
Complete nonsense. I suppose you'd like to have the UK's Brexit papers laid out all over the desk next time the press have a photo opportunity. David Davis had his papers in his bag under the table, only a fool would have them on the table while the press are there taking photos. "
any journalist knows that a plain piece of paper devoid of any writing is not worth photographing.. |
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"True to form - The Brexit Committee has reported back that by a majority of 2 (10 Conservatives / 8 opposition MP's) - David Davis has not misled Parliament. All Conservatives supported him and all opposition MP's were against him.
there is not 1 conservative that campaigned for remain on that committee... are you surprised? contempt would have meant that davies would have almost certainly have to go... so them and sammy wilson of the DUP have a vested interest keeping him in place... which is why they were almost trying to bail him out with their questioning today...."
when such things as we are now seeing happen in other countries, our own Parliamentarians will condemn them as not democratic..
how much lower do we have to go to maintain this total farce.. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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I have been saying it from day one Westminster is corrupt the UK government is corrupt
Imagine telling people that the government have done excruciating details over the brexit impact
Then to pretty much hear not a single Brexit impact assessment was done
If this is not a contempt of parliament then what the hell is ?
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
West London |
"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong. "
So are you saying that the best way to make a decision is to have no idea whatsoever about what the consequences, both positive and negative, would be?
That's a yes/no answer  |
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"Is anyone really surprised...he was defended staunchly by a few on here when the talks first started by walking in with no papers at all !!!....the guy and this government is totally inept
Complete nonsense. I suppose you'd like to have the UK's Brexit papers laid out all over the desk next time the press have a photo opportunity. David Davis had his papers in his bag under the table, only a fool would have them on the table while the press are there taking photos.
any journalist knows that a plain piece of paper devoid of any writing is not worth photographing.. "
Maybe he wrote on the paper with Lemon Juice so those sneaky Europeans wouldn't be able to read it on the sly. He could always of nipped of to the bog and got his Ronson's Lighter out to heat the paper up so he could read it when he needed it. I think that's actually the most likely thing really. |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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I saw this one social media yes i know some people may not like this newspaper i dont care for it or really any newspapers i find them all shite but i thought this would be laugh for everyone lol
Have a laugh write or draw your own lol
https://twitter.com/ScotNational/status/938518024679718912 |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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You know the worse thing about it people were going mental over the whole Catalan independence using UDI saying its anti democratic
But back home we have David Davis conning the people and should be held in contempt of Parliament and the Brexit committee members include 10 Tories and 1 DUP saves his ass by voting 11-8
Yeah that the UK democracy working right there eh lol |
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By *inkyHnSCouple
over a year ago
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You may even find the brexit impact papers had been done and now they are doing everthing in their power to bury them
Wont be first time an assessment commissioned by the UK government has been buried
Anyone remember the missing McCrone report ? |
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"The Govt HAS NOT conducted a single Brexit impact assessment !!!
A
he doesn't want to say how bad it's going to be
B
He is a totally retarded
Or C
As David Davis explained it would be a waste of time, money and resources as the majority of economic forecasts about leaving the EU have so far turned out to be wrong. "
So why did he tell Parliament that the analyses existed? Surely even a blind faither can see that is wrong |
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David Davis exposed the problem at the heart of Brexit, no one is sure what we are trying to achieve. The arguments are defined by what we don't want rather than a proactive proposition about what we do want.
If you don't know what your goal is then how can you work out a negotiating position or undertake the analysis about what that goal would entail?
Brexit reminds me of a bolshy teenager wanting their independence without knowing what that would entail.
"I don't want to live here"
"Would you like this instead"
"No"
"How about that?"
"No"
"So what do you want?"
"I dunno"
"What do you want to change"
"I hate it, it's disgusting"
"What do you hate?"
"Everything about here"
"So what do you want instead?"
"Dunno"
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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And today Boris Johnson said...
“What we want to achieve is a deep and special partnership where we can intensify our trade links...”
How can we intensify trading links by walking away from the Customs Union and Single Market? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And today Boris Johnson said...
“What we want to achieve is a deep and special partnership where we can intensify our trade links...”
How can we intensify trading links by walking away from the Customs Union and Single Market?"
Cake and eat it deal? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes, this really is quite shocking. I'm not sure which is worse:
1) That no sector specific impact assessments were done
or
2) That DD said previously that they had been done.
But hey... the leave voters all knew exactly what they were voting for. So that's OK then.
-Matt
You mean he actually lied about impact assessments which could well assist us in navigating this economic change correctly the first time round?
He lied about doing his job?
I want him sacked, if I bullshitted I'd done a report then handed nothing in then i'd be sacked."
remember, children don't always get "what they want" |
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