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Would you change your vote ? pt 2
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Centaur wrote
"Another myth being perpetuated by remainers on this thread is that the UK has free trade with the EU. What a crock of shit that assumption is. The UK currently pays a tariff to trade with the EU, it's called the 'EU Membership fee'. The EU membership fee is a tariff by any other name and is another gigantic con trick pulled by the EU, clearly remainers on here have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Leave voters on the other hand seem to be more aware as to what is really going on. After the rebate and other money coming back to us (which is originally UK taxpayers money anyway as the UK is a nett contributor to the EU) we are left with a bill of around £8.5 to £9 billion a year to trade with the EU. This is really a tariff by any other name, it's only the EU which calls it a 'membership fee'."
So if we pay this £8.5 billion as a tariff then Centaur, then a % must surely be applied to each transaction of trade to be a tariff, so if our trade with the EU doubled Centaur would our "tariff" bill of £8.5 billion also double then, or is it a membership fee after all that gives benefits and trade discounts ? |
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"Centaur wrote
Another myth being perpetuated by remainers on this thread is that the UK has free trade with the EU. What a crock of shit that assumption is. The UK currently pays a tariff to trade with the EU, it's called the 'EU Membership fee'. The EU membership fee is a tariff by any other name and is another gigantic con trick pulled by the EU, clearly remainers on here have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Leave voters on the other hand seem to be more aware as to what is really going on. After the rebate and other money coming back to us (which is originally UK taxpayers money anyway as the UK is a nett contributor to the EU) we are left with a bill of around £8.5 to £9 billion a year to trade with the EU. This is really a tariff by any other name, it's only the EU which calls it a 'membership fee'.
So if we pay this £8.5 billion as a tariff then Centaur, then a % must surely be applied to each transaction of trade to be a tariff, so if our trade with the EU doubled Centaur would our "tariff" bill of £8.5 billion also double then, or is it a membership fee after all that gives benefits and trade discounts ?"
The tariff we pay or what we pay has hardly anything to do with trade....more disinformation from you...how many times do people have to prove you wrong on things for you to realise?....we pay a fee as most other EU countries do to get the benefits of being in the club...trade is one....and grants for infrastructure is another....most likely half the places that gets grants from the EU wouldn't have them especially under this government  |
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"Centaur wrote
Another myth being perpetuated by remainers on this thread is that the UK has free trade with the EU. What a crock of shit that assumption is. The UK currently pays a tariff to trade with the EU, it's called the 'EU Membership fee'. The EU membership fee is a tariff by any other name and is another gigantic con trick pulled by the EU, clearly remainers on here have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Leave voters on the other hand seem to be more aware as to what is really going on. After the rebate and other money coming back to us (which is originally UK taxpayers money anyway as the UK is a nett contributor to the EU) we are left with a bill of around £8.5 to £9 billion a year to trade with the EU. This is really a tariff by any other name, it's only the EU which calls it a 'membership fee'.
So if we pay this £8.5 billion as a tariff then Centaur, then a % must surely be applied to each transaction of trade to be a tariff, so if our trade with the EU doubled Centaur would our "tariff" bill of £8.5 billion also double then, or is it a membership fee after all that gives benefits and trade discounts ?
The tariff we pay or what we pay has hardly anything to do with trade....more disinformation from you...how many times do people have to prove you wrong on things for you to realise?....we pay a fee as most other EU countries do to get the benefits of being in the club...trade is one....and grants for infrastructure is another....most likely half the places that gets grants from the EU wouldn't have them especially under this government "
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"Centaur wrote
Another myth being perpetuated by remainers on this thread is that the UK has free trade with the EU. What a crock of shit that assumption is. The UK currently pays a tariff to trade with the EU, it's called the 'EU Membership fee'. The EU membership fee is a tariff by any other name and is another gigantic con trick pulled by the EU, clearly remainers on here have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Leave voters on the other hand seem to be more aware as to what is really going on. After the rebate and other money coming back to us (which is originally UK taxpayers money anyway as the UK is a nett contributor to the EU) we are left with a bill of around £8.5 to £9 billion a year to trade with the EU. This is really a tariff by any other name, it's only the EU which calls it a 'membership fee'.
So if we pay this £8.5 billion as a tariff then Centaur, then a % must surely be applied to each transaction of trade to be a tariff, so if our trade with the EU doubled Centaur would our "tariff" bill of £8.5 billion also double then, or is it a membership fee after all that gives benefits and trade discounts ?
The tariff we pay or what we pay has hardly anything to do with trade....more disinformation from you...how many times do people have to prove you wrong on things for you to realise?....we pay a fee as most other EU countries do to get the benefits of being in the club...trade is one....and grants for infrastructure is another....most likely half the places that gets grants from the EU wouldn't have them especially under this government
Some get more benefits than others, much more benefits whilst others pay the price"
Now now do you understand the whole EU project...im guessing you dont |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Centaur wrote
Another myth being perpetuated by remainers on this thread is that the UK has free trade with the EU. What a crock of shit that assumption is. The UK currently pays a tariff to trade with the EU, it's called the 'EU Membership fee'. The EU membership fee is a tariff by any other name and is another gigantic con trick pulled by the EU, clearly remainers on here have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Leave voters on the other hand seem to be more aware as to what is really going on. After the rebate and other money coming back to us (which is originally UK taxpayers money anyway as the UK is a nett contributor to the EU) we are left with a bill of around £8.5 to £9 billion a year to trade with the EU. This is really a tariff by any other name, it's only the EU which calls it a 'membership fee'.
So if we pay this £8.5 billion as a tariff then Centaur, then a % must surely be applied to each transaction of trade to be a tariff, so if our trade with the EU doubled Centaur would our "tariff" bill of £8.5 billion also double then, or is it a membership fee after all that gives benefits and trade discounts ?
The tariff we pay or what we pay has hardly anything to do with trade....more disinformation from you...how many times do people have to prove you wrong on things for you to realise?....we pay a fee as most other EU countries do to get the benefits of being in the club...trade is one....and grants for infrastructure is another....most likely half the places that gets grants from the EU wouldn't have them especially under this government
Some get more benefits than others, much more benefits whilst others pay the price
Now now do you understand the whole EU project...im guessing you dont"
so patronising
perhaps it is attitudes like that that have helped persuade people we are far better out
the joke being, some people just cannot accept we are leaving/out/gone, EU no more 
Best decision the UK public ever made. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Centaur wrote
Another myth being perpetuated by remainers on this thread is that the UK has free trade with the EU. What a crock of shit that assumption is. The UK currently pays a tariff to trade with the EU, it's called the 'EU Membership fee'. The EU membership fee is a tariff by any other name and is another gigantic con trick pulled by the EU, clearly remainers on here have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Leave voters on the other hand seem to be more aware as to what is really going on. After the rebate and other money coming back to us (which is originally UK taxpayers money anyway as the UK is a nett contributor to the EU) we are left with a bill of around £8.5 to £9 billion a year to trade with the EU. This is really a tariff by any other name, it's only the EU which calls it a 'membership fee'.
So if we pay this £8.5 billion as a tariff then Centaur, then a % must surely be applied to each transaction of trade to be a tariff, so if our trade with the EU doubled Centaur would our "tariff" bill of £8.5 billion also double then, or is it a membership fee after all that gives benefits and trade discounts ?
The tariff we pay or what we pay has hardly anything to do with trade....more disinformation from you...how many times do people have to prove you wrong on things for you to realise?....we pay a fee as most other EU countries do to get the benefits of being in the club...trade is one....and grants for infrastructure is another....most likely half the places that gets grants from the EU wouldn't have them especially under this government
Some get more benefits than others, much more benefits whilst others pay the price
Now now do you understand the whole EU project...im guessing you dont
so patronising
perhaps it is attitudes like that that have helped persuade people we are far better out
the joke being, some people just cannot accept we are leaving/out/gone, EU no more
Best decision the UK public ever made."
Nah i'll stick by you dont know about the EU project as a whole |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"the EU project as a whole has failed big time
That is why the whole of the uk has voted overwhelmly to leave"
If it had failed "big time" shouldn't there be more countries looking to leave?
Certainly, it makes more sense that if you believe the above Brexit becomes a slightly more palatable idea. |
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"the EU project as a whole has failed big time
That is why the whole of the uk has voted overwhelmly to leave"
I wouldent say overwhelmingly and I wouldent say the whole country suggest you do your sums
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"the EU project as a whole has failed big time
That is why the whole of the uk has voted overwhelmly to leave"
What ever 52% to 48% is, it's definitely not overwhelming. I'd call it more 'a dambed close thing'. The whole BREXIT project could still be totally lost by the BREXITers themselves with their total inability to recognise this simple fact and compromise even a little. |
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"the EU project as a whole has failed big time
That is why the whole of the uk has voted overwhelmly to leave
What ever 52% to 48% is, it's definitely not overwhelming. I'd call it more 'a dambed close thing'. The whole BREXIT project could still be totally lost by the BREXITers themselves with their total inability to recognise this simple fact and compromise even a little. "
I consider over a million votes to be an overwhelming number. Leave got over a million more votes than Remain. In fact the Leave vote in the EU referendum is the biggest vote for anything, ever, in the entire history of the UK. |
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"the EU project as a whole has failed big time
That is why the whole of the uk has voted overwhelmly to leave
What ever 52% to 48% is, it's definitely not overwhelming. I'd call it more 'a dambed close thing'. The whole BREXIT project could still be totally lost by the BREXITers themselves with their total inability to recognise this simple fact and compromise even a little.
I consider over a million votes to be an overwhelming number. Leave got over a million more votes than Remain. In fact the Leave vote in the EU referendum is the biggest vote for anything, ever, in the entire history of the UK. "
Sorry to disappoint you but 52 to 48 is not overwhelming
At all but your views will allways be right in your mind |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"the EU project as a whole has failed big time
That is why the whole of the uk has voted overwhelmly to leave
If it had failed "big time" shouldn't there be more countries looking to leave?
Certainly, it makes more sense that if you believe the above Brexit becomes a slightly more palatable idea. "
As a significant number of Countries are net beneficiaries of EU funding it is unlikely that they would wish to leave. The only countries who would want to consider leaving are the net contributors . The UK have decided that their contribution was poor value for money . |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"the EU project as a whole has failed big time
That is why the whole of the uk has voted overwhelmly to leave
If it had failed "big time" shouldn't there be more countries looking to leave?
Certainly, it makes more sense that if you believe the above Brexit becomes a slightly more palatable idea. As a significant number of Countries are net beneficiaries of EU funding it is unlikely that they would wish to leave. The only countries who would want to consider leaving are the net contributors . The UK have decided that their contribution was poor value for money . "
*some* of the UK believed it was poor value for money. I, personally, thought it was pretty good value for money. I wonder how those that thought it was poor value for money feel now that the cost of leaving has been revealed. Not the 'divorce bill', but the cost of all the civil servants time in dealing with all this. And the cost to replace from scratch all the services that we lost.
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"the EU project as a whole has failed big time
That is why the whole of the uk has voted overwhelmly to leave
What ever 52% to 48% is, it's definitely not overwhelming. I'd call it more 'a dambed close thing'. The whole BREXIT project could still be totally lost by the BREXITers themselves with their total inability to recognise this simple fact and compromise even a little.
I consider over a million votes to be an overwhelming number. Leave got over a million more votes than Remain. In fact the Leave vote in the EU referendum is the biggest vote for anything, ever, in the entire history of the UK. "
Yes, but it is about proportions isn't it. I mean, 13 million registered voters didn't vote in the referendum... would you call that overwhelming? Hilary Clinton got 2.8 million more votes than your buddy Trump did. Would you call that overwhelming?
If you really wanted to you could probably say that the vote to remain in the EU was the 2nd biggest vote for anything, ever, in the entire history of the UK. Doesn't really mean anything though, does it?
Your idol Farage said that if it was this close a call for remain winning then he would not accept it and demand a do-over. So clearly he doesn't think the margin is 'overwhelming'.
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By (user no longer on site)
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The whole of the UK vote to leave!? Are you joking. It was a targeted vote based on lies and populist propaganda.
UK is a good laugh now.
While unity is the future, UK wants to be just a small island.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Centaur wrote
Another myth being perpetuated by remainers on this thread is that the UK has free trade with the EU. What a crock of shit that assumption is. The UK currently pays a tariff to trade with the EU, it's called the 'EU Membership fee'. The EU membership fee is a tariff by any other name and is another gigantic con trick pulled by the EU, clearly remainers on here have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. Leave voters on the other hand seem to be more aware as to what is really going on. After the rebate and other money coming back to us (which is originally UK taxpayers money anyway as the UK is a nett contributor to the EU) we are left with a bill of around £8.5 to £9 billion a year to trade with the EU. This is really a tariff by any other name, it's only the EU which calls it a 'membership fee'.
So if we pay this £8.5 billion as a tariff then Centaur, then a % must surely be applied to each transaction of trade to be a tariff, so if our trade with the EU doubled Centaur would our "tariff" bill of £8.5 billion also double then, or is it a membership fee after all that gives benefits and trade discounts ?"
I'll take your silence on this matter as your admission of being incorrect over this point then Centaur |
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