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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge

What do you think of the news that Alex Salmond is going to be hosting a new TV show on the Russian state sponsored network, RT?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What do you think of the news that Alex Salmond is going to be hosting a new TV show on the Russian state sponsored network, RT?

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It will be very interesting viewing, Alex Salmond is a very clever man and has done vast amounts for Scotland

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

Proves what I have allways said about the man,called him a corrupt left wing fasist many times and been told I am a moron well as usual I am right.

Just feel like blowing my own trumpet as I will be proved right on many points in time

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I love RT,I think it's a great alternative view to the narrative pushed in the West, and on that point absolutely essential

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Proves what I have allways said about the man,called him a corrupt left wing fasist many times and been told I am a moron well as usual I am right.

Just feel like blowing my own trumpet as I will be proved right on many points in time "

yep, you are right in your own wee world

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now; back to the real world

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What do you think of the news that Alex Salmond is going to be hosting a new TV show on the Russian state sponsored network, RT?

"

...So Russia and RT are on your big list of hate.

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By *andACouple  over a year ago

glasgow

Russia has an interest in weakening anyone that opposes it in any way which is why we see the interference in the US, the EU and the UK (in Brexit and indy). It's no surprise that they opened up offices in Edinburgh and it's also no surprise Salmond has ended up there after his rejection by the electorate.

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By *andACouple  over a year ago

glasgow

Actually it's interesting to see who's producing his chat show. The same person he's been travelling to Strasbourg with for EU meetings since they both lost their seats. And she was involved in his show at the Fringe.

Wonder what his wife makes of it all

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"What do you think of the news that Alex Salmond is going to be hosting a new TV show on the Russian state sponsored network, RT?

...So Russia and RT are on your big list of hate."

I don't see what is controversial in the statement... RT Is funded by the Russian State Government!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yep and the BBC is funded by the UK lol.

Salmond is much too savvy and politically wise to please his critics by balling this up. He speaks very well in public and is very controlled with his views. I actually think it'll be entertaining.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep and the BBC is funded by the UK lol.

Salmond is much too savvy and politically wise to please his critics by balling this up. He speaks very well in public and is very controlled with his views. I actually think it'll be entertaining."

"No, you see they think they're using me but actually I'm cleverer and I'm totally using them!"

- Alex Salmond, and every other useful idiot in the history of forever.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

"Useful idiot" "subversion"

https://youtu.be/0Jfp0_vIn2U

^^^these days Britain genrally is full of shameless Marxists..

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By *andACouple  over a year ago

glasgow


"Yep and the BBC is funded by the UK lol.

Salmond is much too savvy and politically wise to please his critics by balling this up. He speaks very well in public and is very controlled with his views. I actually think it'll be entertaining."

You're missing the point, by appearing on that channel he is basically giving it some legitimacy. It says it all when some SNP politicians have been openly critical and the SNP's own statement on the matter basically makes it clear he has nothing to do with them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""Useful idiot" "subversion"

https://youtu.be/0Jfp0_vIn2U

^^^these days Britain genrally is full of shameless Marxists.."

Why don't you use your own words.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""Useful idiot" "subversion"

https://youtu.be/0Jfp0_vIn2U

^^^these days Britain genrally is full of shameless Marxists..

Why don't you use your own words. "

.

I'd suggest the same to you but your words are boring and uselessly idiotic

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""Useful idiot" "subversion"

https://youtu.be/0Jfp0_vIn2U

^^^these days Britain genrally is full of shameless Marxists..

Why don't you use your own words. .

I'd suggest the same to you but your words are boring and uselessly idiotic"

If you really want my attention that badly, use a private message.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep and the BBC is funded by the UK lol.

Salmond is much too savvy and politically wise to please his critics by balling this up. He speaks very well in public and is very controlled with his views. I actually think it'll be entertaining.

"No, you see they think they're using me but actually I'm cleverer and I'm totally using them!"

- Alex Salmond, and every other useful idiot in the history of forever."

Have you heard him? He's no idiot, whatever his political beliefs.

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


""Useful idiot" "subversion"

https://youtu.be/0Jfp0_vIn2U

^^^these days Britain genrally is full of shameless Marxists.."

I can't really see the link between that clip of Malcolm X and the topic at hand.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Socialism and all forms of Marxist ideology are subversive...

The NHS is socialist healthcare

And it is shit...they get alot of money....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The NHS is fucking fantastic.

Every country I've ever lived in has had an inferior health service to the NHS.

And that's exclusively wealthy western nations, before anyone gets any funny ideas.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep and the BBC is funded by the UK lol.

Salmond is much too savvy and politically wise to please his critics by balling this up. He speaks very well in public and is very controlled with his views. I actually think it'll be entertaining.

"No, you see they think they're using me but actually I'm cleverer and I'm totally using them!"

- Alex Salmond, and every other useful idiot in the history of forever.

Have you heard him? He's no idiot, whatever his political beliefs. "

Well, if he's hard up for rent money, that's fair enough, but if he thinks he's getting paid for any other reason than he's a good fit for RT's particular brand of Russian state propaganda, he's a fucking idiot.

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Socialism and all forms of Marxist ideology are subversive...

The NHS is socialist healthcare

And it is shit...they get alot of money....

"

What are they subverting?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is that not the case working for any government-run organisation? Do you think you have the only insight into that? Perhaps the coup is the very fact he's doing it. He's well aware, I'd think, of outside influences.

still think it will be entertaining.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep and the BBC is funded by the UK lol.

Salmond is much too savvy and politically wise to please his critics by balling this up. He speaks very well in public and is very controlled with his views. I actually think it'll be entertaining.

"No, you see they think they're using me but actually I'm cleverer and I'm totally using them!"

- Alex Salmond, and every other useful idiot in the history of forever.

Have you heard him? He's no idiot, whatever his political beliefs. "

Abcxyz you are spot on, Alex Salmond certainly is no ones puppet, He has strong believes for Scotland and he is one of Scotland's greatest ambassador's

I have dinned in his company at Stirling Castle and at a dinner in Blairgowrie where he has done after dinner speeches.

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He is no longer an elected politician and is free to do as he wishes, he openly admits he does not miss politics as much as he thought he would.

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one thing for certain is that as long as Nicola Sturgeon remains leader of the SNP, the SNP will continue to lose votes on a daily basis.

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Alex Salmond should never have stepped down and it is essential that he returns as leader, that is the only way that the SNP will ever regain votes and regain the fight for Independence.

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Alex Salmond has done more good for Scotland than any other living Scot today.

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Is that not the case working for any government-run organisation? Do you think you have the only insight into that? Perhaps the coup is the very fact he's doing it. He's well aware, I'd think, of outside influences.

still think it will be entertaining.

"

You have made quite a few assumptions there haven't you?

Lets add another question to the OP then, do you think more Scottish nationalists will watch RT as a result of this new show?

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By *omaMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Socialism and all forms of Marxist ideology are subversive...

The NHS is socialist healthcare

And it is shit...they get alot of money....

"

NHS might be a lot of things, wasteful, inefficient but never shit.

Many other nations wish they had a service that was a fraction of what the NHS delivers to our people

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Socialism and all forms of Marxist ideology are subversive...

The NHS is socialist healthcare

And it is shit...they get alot of money....

NHS might be a lot of things, wasteful, inefficient but never shit.

Many other nations wish they had a service that was a fraction of what the NHS delivers to our people "

If the NHS does a poor job and puts a persons life in danger through negligence or incompetence, then that individual has every right to consider the NHS "shit"

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By *omaMan  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Socialism and all forms of Marxist ideology are subversive...

The NHS is socialist healthcare

And it is shit...they get alot of money....

NHS might be a lot of things, wasteful, inefficient but never shit.

Many other nations wish they had a service that was a fraction of what the NHS delivers to our people

If the NHS does a poor job and puts a persons life in danger through negligence or incompetence, then that individual has every right to consider the NHS "shit""

If it were not for the NHS then many people wouldnt be alive today. . From childbirth onwards for millions of people the NHS is a God send.

Not a single institution is perfect though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Socialism and all forms of Marxist ideology are subversive...

The NHS is socialist healthcare

And it is shit...they get alot of money....

NHS might be a lot of things, wasteful, inefficient but never shit.

Many other nations wish they had a service that was a fraction of what the NHS delivers to our people

If the NHS does a poor job and puts a persons life in danger through negligence or incompetence, then that individual has every right to consider the NHS "shit"

If it were not for the NHS then many people wouldnt be alive today. . From childbirth onwards for millions of people the NHS is a God send.

Not a single institution is perfect though. "

the NHS is only as good as the people working for it

sadly today so many are losing commitment and dedication

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By *oyce69Man  over a year ago

Driffield

Fuckin hell, how did a post about Alec Salmond and the Russians end up slating the NHS?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Back to the topic....no not the chocolate bar.......The Russians have become masters at the dis-information game, the ideal way to wreck the western democracies, all you need is a few hundred tech/politically savvy social media posters and hey Presto.....Spain in turmoil, The UK leaving the E.U.. and best of all Trump in the white house.. What a result all from pandering to the bigots and ill informed in the west.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Personally i think the Russian involvement in influencing any elections anywhere is hysterical shite of the first degree since the witch trials in the 1800s.

Nowhere, is there any evidence of the slightest that this happened.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh you must have been asleep when the FBI warned the Democrats that there system had been hacked and Mrs Clintons e mails were hacked and released to the worlds press through CNN....So it all came to pass x

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally i think the Russian involvement in influencing any elections anywhere is hysterical shite of the first degree since the witch trials in the 1800s.

Nowhere, is there any evidence of the slightest that this happened.

"

Except, of course, for all the evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally i think the Russian involvement in influencing any elections anywhere is hysterical shite of the first degree since the witch trials in the 1800s.

Nowhere, is there any evidence of the slightest that this happened.

Except, of course, for all the evidence."

Oh yes? Give me some.. Bearing in mind the fbi saying it without any material evidence and clinton usung an insecure server doesn't count, lets have it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The moon is made of wenslydale cheese, ive no proof but i said it so it must be true!

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By *tjohnspairCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"Yep and the BBC is funded by the UK lol.

Salmond is much too savvy and politically wise to please his critics by balling this up. He speaks very well in public and is very controlled with his views. I actually think it'll be entertaining."

BBC is funded by you and me...licence payers. NOT by the state! Let’s get that straight first!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally i think the Russian involvement in influencing any elections anywhere is hysterical shite of the first degree since the witch trials in the 1800s.

Nowhere, is there any evidence of the slightest that this happened.

Except, of course, for all the evidence.

Oh yes? Give me some.. Bearing in mind the fbi saying it without any material evidence and clinton usung an insecure server doesn't count, lets have it! "

Ahh, I see.

Evidence, but not the evidence you've decided doesn't count.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Personally i think the Russian involvement in influencing any elections anywhere is hysterical shite of the first degree since the witch trials in the 1800s.

Nowhere, is there any evidence of the slightest that this happened.

Except, of course, for all the evidence.

Oh yes? Give me some.. Bearing in mind the fbi saying it without any material evidence and clinton usung an insecure server doesn't count, lets have it!

Ahh, I see.

Evidence, but not the evidence you've decided doesn't count."

Evidence based on material proof counts. Opinions and 'he said she said' tittle tattle doesn't count. Its quite easy really

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Oh you must have been asleep when the FBI warned the Democrats that there system had been hacked and Mrs Clintons e mails were hacked and released to the worlds press through CNN....So it all came to pass x"
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That's fake news.

The NSA have conclusively proved by experiment that the download speed used was near impossible to be reached via a "hack" even from next door let alone Russia... It is therefore most probable that the data was achieved by downloading to a USB drive.

Until DNC let the FBI investigate their servers we'll never know conclusively either way

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep and the BBC is funded by the UK lol.

Salmond is much too savvy and politically wise to please his critics by balling this up. He speaks very well in public and is very controlled with his views. I actually think it'll be entertaining.

BBC is funded by you and me...licence payers. NOT by the state! Let’s get that straight first!"

You and I ARE the UK. However, government has a huge say, since they hold the control over the funding.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction."

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Take it up with the NSA then

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

Read this joint statement from DHS and ODNI. The Director of National Intelligence sits above the 16 agencies that make up the US Intelligence Community, of which the NSA is one.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_interference_in_the_2016_United_States_elections

Read this joint statement from DHS and ODNI. The Director of National Intelligence sits above the 16 agencies that make up the US Intelligence Community, of which the NSA is one. "

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Give me the jist of it, What's the evidence?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As far as I can tell the Russians seemed to be working pretty well with ms Clinton so I really can't think why they preferred trump

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then "

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The omniscient one has spoken

Everyone prostrate before him and be aware of your wrongness

For he has said so

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit."

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Actually it was from the 4 highest rank cyber expert in the NSA, the top 3 haven't said anything because they still work there

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Funny how a fact that does not tie in with the deluded is instantly branded Fake News.......So it is that we now have Mr Trump believing the word of an ex KGB agent (Putin) over his own security agencies........See the problem with fake news is that it may not be lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit..

Actually it was from the 4 highest rank cyber expert in the NSA, the top 3 haven't said anything because they still work there "

If you want to believe that, that is your prerogative.

But nobody else is under any obligation to believe your flights of fancy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit..

Actually it was from the 4 highest rank cyber expert in the NSA, the top 3 haven't said anything because they still work there

If you want to believe that, that is your prerogative.

But nobody else is under any obligation to believe your flights of fancy."

As someone once said:

Ahh, I see.

Evidence, but not the evidence you've decided doesn't count.

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit..

Actually it was from the 4 highest rank cyber expert in the NSA, the top 3 haven't said anything because they still work there

If you want to believe that, that is your prerogative.

But nobody else is under any obligation to believe your flights of fancy.

As someone once said:

Ahh, I see.

Evidence, but not the evidence you've decided doesn't count.

"

No one apart from me has provided any evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit..

Actually it was from the 4 highest rank cyber expert in the NSA, the top 3 haven't said anything because they still work there

If you want to believe that, that is your prerogative.

But nobody else is under any obligation to believe your flights of fancy.

As someone once said:

Ahh, I see.

Evidence, but not the evidence you've decided doesn't count.

No one apart from me has provided any evidence. "

.

You HAVEN'T provided any evidence of anything, there isn't any evidence of trump colluding (that's not actually illegal anyhow) or conspiring with any Russian elements whatsoever.

What you pointed to was a Wikipedia page that said 17 agencies "suspect" Russian interference

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit..

Actually it was from the 4 highest rank cyber expert in the NSA, the top 3 haven't said anything because they still work there

If you want to believe that, that is your prerogative.

But nobody else is under any obligation to believe your flights of fancy.

As someone once said:

Ahh, I see.

Evidence, but not the evidence you've decided doesn't count.

No one apart from me has provided any evidence. "

Demon said that to me so i was answering his double standards

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Suspicion is not evidence.... That's a rule of law

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What do you think of the news that Alex Salmond is going to be hosting a new TV show on the Russian state sponsored network, RT?

"

Good on him. I'd do it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Suspicion is not evidence.... That's a rule of law "

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit..

Actually it was from the 4 highest rank cyber expert in the NSA, the top 3 haven't said anything because they still work there

If you want to believe that, that is your prerogative.

But nobody else is under any obligation to believe your flights of fancy.

As someone once said:

Ahh, I see.

Evidence, but not the evidence you've decided doesn't count.

"

Nobody knows who this "The Forensicator" actually is. Hence this idea that he or she is the 3rd best cyber expert in the NSA is a fantasy.

I hope this has cleared things up for you.

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit..

Actually it was from the 4 highest rank cyber expert in the NSA, the top 3 haven't said anything because they still work there

If you want to believe that, that is your prerogative.

But nobody else is under any obligation to believe your flights of fancy.

As someone once said:

Ahh, I see.

Evidence, but not the evidence you've decided doesn't count.

No one apart from me has provided any evidence. .

You HAVEN'T provided any evidence of anything, there isn't any evidence of trump colluding (that's not actually illegal anyhow) or conspiring with any Russian elements whatsoever.

What you pointed to was a Wikipedia page that said 17 agencies "suspect" Russian interference "

"Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections

ICA 2017-01D

6 January 2017

Key Judgments

Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort

compared to previous operations. We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.

We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her

unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.

Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the

electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.

Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals.

Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.”"

The last paragraph links quite nicely to the OP I think.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The download speed argument only works if you don't know a damn thing about computers.

So, understandably, it has gained some traction..

Take it up with the NSA then

I don't have to, that theory came from a blogger, not the NSA.

It came from a a person calling themselves "The Forensicator", and other cyber security experts have called bullshit..

Actually it was from the 4 highest rank cyber expert in the NSA, the top 3 haven't said anything because they still work there

If you want to believe that, that is your prerogative.

But nobody else is under any obligation to believe your flights of fancy.

As someone once said:

Ahh, I see.

Evidence, but not the evidence you've decided doesn't count.

No one apart from me has provided any evidence. .

You HAVEN'T provided any evidence of anything, there isn't any evidence of trump colluding (that's not actually illegal anyhow) or conspiring with any Russian elements whatsoever.

What you pointed to was a Wikipedia page that said 17 agencies "suspect" Russian interference

"Assessing Russian Activities and Intentions in Recent US Elections

ICA 2017-01D

6 January 2017

Key Judgments

Russian efforts to influence the 2016 US presidential election represent the most recent expression of Moscow’s longstanding desire to undermine the US-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort

compared to previous operations. We assess Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election. Russia’s goals were to undermine public faith in the US democratic process, denigrate Secretary Clinton, and harm her electability and potential presidency. We further assess Putin and the Russian Government developed a clear preference for President-elect Trump. We have high confidence in these judgments.

We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her

unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment. CIA and FBI have high confidence in this judgment; NSA has moderate confidence.

Moscow’s approach evolved over the course of the campaign based on Russia’s understanding of the

electoral prospects of the two main candidates. When it appeared to Moscow that Secretary Clinton was likely to win the election, the Russian influence campaign began to focus more on undermining her future presidency.

Further information has come to light since Election Day that, when combined with Russian behavior since early November 2016, increases our confidence in our assessments of Russian motivations and goals.

Moscow’s influence campaign followed a Russian messaging strategy that blends covert intelligence operations—such as cyber activity—with overt efforts by Russian Government agencies, state-funded media, third-party intermediaries, and paid social media users or “trolls.”"

The last paragraph links quite nicely to the OP I think. "

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Like I said before... no evidence whatsoever then?.

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I'm not saying your a nieve Fool but do you remember old man Powell wandering around the UN with US intelligence on proof that Iraq had wmds!.... Pretty much the same shit, we "believe" we "think" we "suspect" .... We have no evidence whatsoever

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Look over there!!.

A little boy crying wolf

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For someone who spends a non zero amount of time accusing people of being alts of each other, you've picked an odd time to become an absolutist about what you consider to be evidence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For someone who spends a non zero amount of time accusing people of being alts of each other, you've picked an odd time to become an absolutist about what you consider to be evidence."
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#yeahbutnobutyeah

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

In the words of killary .... Can't we just drone this guy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Illuminating, as always.

But here's the rub, the agencies whose stock and trade this is are convinced that Russia has attempted to influence the 2016 election, so what the internet peanut gallery does or does not believe is of little consequence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Neither convincing nor interesting

Noyeahnoyeahno

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Illuminating, as always.

But here's the rub, the agencies whose stock and trade this is are convinced that Russia has attempted to influence the 2016 election, so what the internet peanut gallery does or does not believe is of little consequence."

.

What like they were convinced about wmds in Iraq?.

Or that they knew Osama was definitely in Afghanistan?.

Maybe that they absolutely definitely are absolutely sure that no American uranium was used in North Korean bombs?.

Of course they were right about Benghazi as well, that's a defo right there.

Do you think Hillary was definitely right in her thoughts that maybe drone striking whistleblowers is the best policy for keeping her shit secrets secret?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Oh and those agencies were so thoroughly definitely sure about those 19 hijackers that flew those planes into buildings..... Even though one of them didn't, and still works for Saudi airlines flying err planes!.

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Gee fucking Wiz those agencies are so just fucking right all the time!.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The CIA couldn't even find Osama bin Laden in ten fucking years even though he'd been admitted to their own fucking field hospital!.....I dunno it's like having bin Laden on the loose sort of was helpful in their Geo political ambitions!.

Shit I wonder if Russia colluding with trump to rig the American elections would be helpful in their Geo political ambitions....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I mean rigging elections is the lowest of the shit you can do.... It's not like Hillary was upto shit like that... Is it

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Illuminating, as always.

But here's the rub, the agencies whose stock and trade this is are convinced that Russia has attempted to influence the 2016 election, so what the internet peanut gallery does or does not believe is of little consequence."

No, I'm sure sick boi has a much bigger budget (financed by bitcoins no doubt) to inveatigate this kind of thing than the entire US intelligence community.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Illuminating, as always.

But here's the rub, the agencies whose stock and trade this is are convinced that Russia has attempted to influence the 2016 election, so what the internet peanut gallery does or does not believe is of little consequence.

No, I'm sure sick boi has a much bigger budget (financed by bitcoins no doubt) to inveatigate this kind of thing than the entire US intelligence community. "

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Might as well, the singularity occurs soon

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge

Anyway, getting back to the OP. I think the reason why RT would want to hire Salmond is to get more nationalists to watch RT, and then they can have a greater influence over Scottish politics.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If your considered opinion is that no intelligence agency is capable of being right, his do you square that with your earlier claims that the analysis of "The Forensicator" was correct, by virtue of your belief that it was actually a report by the NSA?

A tad inconsistent, isn't it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyway, getting back to the OP. I think the reason why RT would want to hire Salmond is to get more nationalists to watch RT, and then they can have a greater influence over Scottish politics."
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What's wrong with being a nationalist?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If your considered opinion is that no intelligence agency is capable of being right, his do you square that with your earlier claims that the analysis of "The Forensicator" was correct, by virtue of your belief that it was actually a report by the NSA?

A tad inconsistent, isn't it?"

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No not really, I think you'll find repeatable, verifiable examination of facts is very telling.

1857 GB in 86 seconds downloaded, now if somebody can repeat that we'll go from there but upto now it's been proven impossible

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Killary and the DNC (same thing as been admitted to) said this is reason for war!!. Yes war, they wouldn't even let the FBI examine the fucking server but oh no, it's war.

And you suckers keep falling for the same bullshit over and over and over

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Trump should have just signed up to the Paris accord like Trudeau and Obama and Cameron and then done fuck all about it just like they've done... Trudeau is out there now trampling over Indian rights and reservation deals, nobody says Jack shit.

Neo liberal corporate cunts have fucked us over for 30 years but somehow you think trumps the problem???.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anyway, getting back to the OP. I think the reason why RT would want to hire Salmond is to get more nationalists to watch RT, and then they can have a greater influence over Scottish politics..

What's wrong with being a nationalist?"

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This is the true neo liberal attitude right there, you see it in every post you make about Catalonia, Scotland, n Ireland.

You hate borders, you hate countries, you hate flags, you absolutely hate democracy......

Me I'm gonna shake shake shake you off

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I must admit to hating nationalism and thinking democracy has become a joke but I also hate left wing retards who fail to think..... And just drink drink drink all that lovely koolaid

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I must admit to hating nationalism and thinking democracy has become a joke but I also hate left wing retards who fail to think..... And just drink drink drink all that lovely koolaid

"

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Democracy isn't a joke, state lead corruption of democracy is a joke.

Capitalism isn't perfect but it's the best we've come up with, cronyism capitalism needs to be stamped out as soon as possible and with the full penalty that the law allows!.

What they've done over the last 40 years is convince everybody of every enemy going except the one staring us all in the face.

The Facebook's spying with the CIA, the Starbucks and apples lobbying EU law, the Clinton's Obama's Bush's Camerons and Blair's feeding us more wars for ever more profits the neo liberal bullshit of foreign aid solving Ethiopias famines, the climate change crises solved by signing upto the Paris accord while at the same time cheapening air flights, giving tax breaks, selling shit to solve shit.... This shits causing the shit we see today from Catalonia to trump to brexit to refugees and the neo liberal wankers are still insisting it's all Russias fault! Or trump or whoever else they can get the mass media to spin it onto

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm no fan of Antifa but I can see where it's coming from just like I can see where the rise in the rights coming from.... The one thing that unites them both is the downfall of neo liberalism.

Obama was right about one thing.....change is coming

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Clinton's solution to solving this shit is drone bombing whistleblowers..... Killing assange is the obvious answer.

Im actually arguing with people that think this is a good plan...wtf is going on?.

Electing a woman that corruption follows round for thirty years to solve a corrupt system... .wtf are we even Jibber jabbering about!.

Phoney fucking wars will solve this shit?.

Trump ain't gonna solve this shit, we all know that, but by God he's highlighting the hypocrisy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If your considered opinion is that no intelligence agency is capable of being right, his do you square that with your earlier claims that the analysis of "The Forensicator" was correct, by virtue of your belief that it was actually a report by the NSA?

A tad inconsistent, isn't it?.

No not really, I think you'll find repeatable, verifiable examination of facts is very telling.

1857 GB in 86 seconds downloaded, now if somebody can repeat that we'll go from there but upto now it's been proven impossible "

That would be amazing.

But the report you're putting so much stock in, for reasons unknown, claimed a transfer speed of 23 Mb/sec, which would mean in the 86 seconds you have plucked from the ether the transfered data would be 1978 Mb, or just shy of 2Gb.

A bit less than the 1857 GB you're talking about, wouldn't you say?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Sorry. I said report, I should have said blog post, report implies a level of competence and respectability that is lacking here.

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"If your considered opinion is that no intelligence agency is capable of being right, his do you square that with your earlier claims that the analysis of "The Forensicator" was correct, by virtue of your belief that it was actually a report by the NSA?

A tad inconsistent, isn't it?.

No not really, I think you'll find repeatable, verifiable examination of facts is very telling.

1857 GB in 86 seconds downloaded, now if somebody can repeat that we'll go from there but upto now it's been proven impossible

That would be amazing.

But the report you're putting so much stock in, for reasons unknown, claimed a transfer speed of 23 Mb/sec, which would mean in the 86 seconds you have plucked from the ether the transfered data would be 1978 Mb, or just shy of 2Gb.

A bit less than the 1857 GB you're talking about, wouldn't you say?"

So 1857 GB in 86 seconds? That works out to 21.59 gbps, right? Sick boi said that it was a USB download, but USB 3.1 only has a theoretical transfer rate of 10 gbps, so it can't possibly have been a USB download.

Glad that I could figure that out in about 5 minutes with a google search. Can you imagine what the NSA could do if they used Google?

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

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Last i checked Alex Salmond is a private citizen and can work where he wants

Interesting though to see how much pro unionists are foaming at the mouth at this yet it seems its ok when a Tory or Labour UKIP or Lib Dem or Green appear on RT

Ah but when its a member of the SNP oh no no no cant have that

The reason the MSM are pissed off is they cant and wont be able to control Alex Salmond or the guests

Ah well if your angry at this then hey you still have the BBC that you are willing to hand over £147 to lie to you lmao

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Last i checked Alex Salmond is a private citizen and can work where he wants

Interesting though to see how much pro unionists are foaming at the mouth at this yet it seems its ok when a Tory or Labour UKIP or Lib Dem or Green appear on RT

Ah but when its a member of the SNP oh no no no cant have that

The reason the MSM are pissed off is they cant and wont be able to control Alex Salmond or the guests

Ah well if your angry at this then hey you still have the BBC that you are willing to hand over £147 to lie to you lmao

"

He is indeed he got voted out in the last UK election and no longer represents that region

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Last i checked Alex Salmond is a private citizen and can work where he wants

Interesting though to see how much pro unionists are foaming at the mouth at this yet it seems its ok when a Tory or Labour UKIP or Lib Dem or Green appear on RT

Ah but when its a member of the SNP oh no no no cant have that

The reason the MSM are pissed off is they cant and wont be able to control Alex Salmond or the guests

Ah well if your angry at this then hey you still have the BBC that you are willing to hand over £147 to lie to you lmao

He is indeed he got voted out in the last UK election and no longer represents that region "

Wow you think your really gonna wind me up by calling Scotland a region lol

Hey do it all you want if you think so low of Emgland that you call it a region be my guest but their is 4 countries in the UK fact

But thanks for agreeing that Alex Salmond as a private citizen can work where he wants

Seems for some that are angry with this its ok if Tory Labour UKIP Lib Dem Greens all go on RT but when SNP nope that not allowed

Oh my must have the unionists rattled that they cant control him or his show lol

Its fucking great to see them piss their knickers over this lol

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Last i checked Alex Salmond is a private citizen and can work where he wants

Interesting though to see how much pro unionists are foaming at the mouth at this yet it seems its ok when a Tory or Labour UKIP or Lib Dem or Green appear on RT

Ah but when its a member of the SNP oh no no no cant have that

The reason the MSM are pissed off is they cant and wont be able to control Alex Salmond or the guests

Ah well if your angry at this then hey you still have the BBC that you are willing to hand over £147 to lie to you lmao

He is indeed he got voted out in the last UK election and no longer represents that region

Wow you think your really gonna wind me up by calling Scotland a region lol

Hey do it all you want if you think so low of Emgland that you call it a region be my guest but their is 4 countries in the UK fact

But thanks for agreeing that Alex Salmond as a private citizen can work where he wants

Seems for some that are angry with this its ok if Tory Labour UKIP Lib Dem Greens all go on RT but when SNP nope that not allowed

Oh my must have the unionists rattled that they cant control him or his show lol

Its fucking great to see them piss their knickers over this lol "

Nice to see how happy you are to get you talking points from the Kremlin

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Last i checked Alex Salmond is a private citizen and can work where he wants

Interesting though to see how much pro unionists are foaming at the mouth at this yet it seems its ok when a Tory or Labour UKIP or Lib Dem or Green appear on RT

Ah but when its a member of the SNP oh no no no cant have that

The reason the MSM are pissed off is they cant and wont be able to control Alex Salmond or the guests

Ah well if your angry at this then hey you still have the BBC that you are willing to hand over £147 to lie to you lmao

He is indeed he got voted out in the last UK election and no longer represents that region

Wow you think your really gonna wind me up by calling Scotland a region lol

Hey do it all you want if you think so low of Emgland that you call it a region be my guest but their is 4 countries in the UK fact

But thanks for agreeing that Alex Salmond as a private citizen can work where he wants

Seems for some that are angry with this its ok if Tory Labour UKIP Lib Dem Greens all go on RT but when SNP nope that not allowed

Oh my must have the unionists rattled that they cant control him or his show lol

Its fucking great to see them piss their knickers over this lol

Nice to see how happy you are to get you talking points from the Kremlin "

Nice to see that you will attack that but are you happy to defend the BBC ?

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Last i checked Alex Salmond is a private citizen and can work where he wants

Interesting though to see how much pro unionists are foaming at the mouth at this yet it seems its ok when a Tory or Labour UKIP or Lib Dem or Green appear on RT

Ah but when its a member of the SNP oh no no no cant have that

The reason the MSM are pissed off is they cant and wont be able to control Alex Salmond or the guests

Ah well if your angry at this then hey you still have the BBC that you are willing to hand over £147 to lie to you lmao

He is indeed he got voted out in the last UK election and no longer represents that region

Wow you think your really gonna wind me up by calling Scotland a region lol

Hey do it all you want if you think so low of Emgland that you call it a region be my guest but their is 4 countries in the UK fact

But thanks for agreeing that Alex Salmond as a private citizen can work where he wants

Seems for some that are angry with this its ok if Tory Labour UKIP Lib Dem Greens all go on RT but when SNP nope that not allowed

Oh my must have the unionists rattled that they cant control him or his show lol

Its fucking great to see them piss their knickers over this lol

Nice to see how happy you are to get you talking points from the Kremlin

Nice to see that you will attack that but are you happy to defend the BBC ?"

The BBC isn't funded or run by a foreign power.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Last i checked Alex Salmond is a private citizen and can work where he wants

Interesting though to see how much pro unionists are foaming at the mouth at this yet it seems its ok when a Tory or Labour UKIP or Lib Dem or Green appear on RT

Ah but when its a member of the SNP oh no no no cant have that

The reason the MSM are pissed off is they cant and wont be able to control Alex Salmond or the guests

Ah well if your angry at this then hey you still have the BBC that you are willing to hand over £147 to lie to you lmao

He is indeed he got voted out in the last UK election and no longer represents that region

Wow you think your really gonna wind me up by calling Scotland a region lol

Hey do it all you want if you think so low of Emgland that you call it a region be my guest but their is 4 countries in the UK fact

But thanks for agreeing that Alex Salmond as a private citizen can work where he wants

Seems for some that are angry with this its ok if Tory Labour UKIP Lib Dem Greens all go on RT but when SNP nope that not allowed

Oh my must have the unionists rattled that they cant control him or his show lol

Its fucking great to see them piss their knickers over this lol "

But he aint an MSP anymore so you cant compere like for like....hes a has been

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?"

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT? "

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol"

I'm asking which have TV shows.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows."

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows.

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

"

I don't think anyone should go on RT, let alone have a show on the network.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows.

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

I don't think anyone should go on RT, let alone have a show on the network. "

Ok interesting so you pull up a thread on Alex Salmond having a show on RT

But somehow you managed to miss all those politicians from ( Labour , Tory ,UKIP Greens who would have all received a payment for appearing on Rt oohhh double standards lol

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows.

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

I don't think anyone should go on RT, let alone have a show on the network.

Ok interesting so you pull up a thread on Alex Salmond having a show on RT

But somehow you managed to miss all those politicians from ( Labour , Tory ,UKIP Greens who would have all received a payment for appearing on Rt oohhh double standards lol

"

They don't have a show, he does.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows.

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

I don't think anyone should go on RT, let alone have a show on the network.

Ok interesting so you pull up a thread on Alex Salmond having a show on RT

But somehow you managed to miss all those politicians from ( Labour , Tory ,UKIP Greens who would have all received a payment for appearing on Rt oohhh double standards lol

They don't have a show, he does. "

Going right over your heed

Alex Salmond is a private citizen which he has every right to work where he wants correct ?

So all those politicians from Labour Tory UKIP Greens who went on RT to give their views on things and also received a payment for appearing on RT thats all ok then ?

You just have a problem because a private citizen has a show on RT ?

I call that bullshit i can see you pure hatred that you or the MSM wont be able to control what Alex says oh well

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows.

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

I don't think anyone should go on RT, let alone have a show on the network.

Ok interesting so you pull up a thread on Alex Salmond having a show on RT

But somehow you managed to miss all those politicians from ( Labour , Tory ,UKIP Greens who would have all received a payment for appearing on Rt oohhh double standards lol

They don't have a show, he does.

Going right over your heed

Alex Salmond is a private citizen which he has every right to work where he wants correct ?

So all those politicians from Labour Tory UKIP Greens who went on RT to give their views on things and also received a payment for appearing on RT thats all ok then ?

You just have a problem because a private citizen has a show on RT ?

I call that bullshit i can see you pure hatred that you or the MSM wont be able to control what Alex says oh well

"

No, I said I don't think anyone should go on it.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows.

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

I don't think anyone should go on RT, let alone have a show on the network.

Ok interesting so you pull up a thread on Alex Salmond having a show on RT

But somehow you managed to miss all those politicians from ( Labour , Tory ,UKIP Greens who would have all received a payment for appearing on Rt oohhh double standards lol

They don't have a show, he does.

Going right over your heed

Alex Salmond is a private citizen which he has every right to work where he wants correct ?

So all those politicians from Labour Tory UKIP Greens who went on RT to give their views on things and also received a payment for appearing on RT thats all ok then ?

You just have a problem because a private citizen has a show on RT ?

I call that bullshit i can see you pure hatred that you or the MSM wont be able to control what Alex says oh well

No, I said I don't think anyone should go on it."

Right so why have a go at Alex Salmond and not all the others then ?

Your thread only singles out Alex Salmond why ? I call it out as double standards

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yep and the BBC is funded by the UK lol.

Salmond is much too savvy and politically wise to please his critics by balling this up. He speaks very well in public and is very controlled with his views. I actually think it'll be entertaining.

"No, you see they think they're using me but actually I'm cleverer and I'm totally using them!"

- Alex Salmond, and every other useful idiot in the history of forever.

Have you heard him? He's no idiot, whatever his political beliefs.

Abcxyz you are spot on, Alex Salmond certainly is no ones puppet, He has strong believes for Scotland and he is one of Scotland's greatest ambassador's

I have dinned in his company at Stirling Castle and at a dinner in Blairgowrie where he has done after dinner speeches.

.

He is no longer an elected politician and is free to do as he wishes, he openly admits he does not miss politics as much as he thought he would.

.

one thing for certain is that as long as Nicola Sturgeon remains leader of the SNP, the SNP will continue to lose votes on a daily basis.

.

Alex Salmond should never have stepped down and it is essential that he returns as leader, that is the only way that the SNP will ever regain votes and regain the fight for Independence.

.

Alex Salmond has done more good for Scotland than any other living Scot today."

Like what exactly ??

His rediculase flag waving at Wimbledon ???

His lying about the EU letter ???

His hundred dollar a barrel claim ??

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

After the 2014 referendum in Scotland there was footage on the internet of miss counting therefore robbing the separatist of there goal.

Supprise the fake footage was traced back to sputnick another organ of Putin's Russia !!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?"

No British politician should be on RT as Putin is using it to wage war on the west.

It is not the fact that salmon is on RT it is what RT represents even sturgeon is against it !!!

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows.

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

I don't think anyone should go on RT, let alone have a show on the network.

Ok interesting so you pull up a thread on Alex Salmond having a show on RT

But somehow you managed to miss all those politicians from ( Labour , Tory ,UKIP Greens who would have all received a payment for appearing on Rt oohhh double standards lol

They don't have a show, he does.

Going right over your heed

Alex Salmond is a private citizen which he has every right to work where he wants correct ?

So all those politicians from Labour Tory UKIP Greens who went on RT to give their views on things and also received a payment for appearing on RT thats all ok then ?

You just have a problem because a private citizen has a show on RT ?

I call that bullshit i can see you pure hatred that you or the MSM wont be able to control what Alex says oh well

No, I said I don't think anyone should go on it.

Right so why have a go at Alex Salmond and not all the others then ?

Your thread only singles out Alex Salmond why ? I call it out as double standards

"

He has a show, the others don't.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Also

You should see the amount of MSP's in Scotland having a go at Alex Salmond a private citizen having a show on RT

Yet this same plonkers were ok to do interviews with Sputnik News and Mark Hirst is calling each everyone of them out on it good to see the double standards eh

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Also

You should see the amount of MSP's in Scotland having a go at Alex Salmond a private citizen having a show on RT

Yet this same plonkers were ok to do interviews with Sputnik News and Mark Hirst is calling each everyone of them out on it good to see the double standards eh

"

Same standard applied across the board from me.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows.

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

I don't think anyone should go on RT, let alone have a show on the network.

Ok interesting so you pull up a thread on Alex Salmond having a show on RT

But somehow you managed to miss all those politicians from ( Labour , Tory ,UKIP Greens who would have all received a payment for appearing on Rt oohhh double standards lol

They don't have a show, he does.

Going right over your heed

Alex Salmond is a private citizen which he has every right to work where he wants correct ?

So all those politicians from Labour Tory UKIP Greens who went on RT to give their views on things and also received a payment for appearing on RT thats all ok then ?

You just have a problem because a private citizen has a show on RT ?

I call that bullshit i can see you pure hatred that you or the MSM wont be able to control what Alex says oh well

No, I said I don't think anyone should go on it.

Right so why have a go at Alex Salmond and not all the others then ?

Your thread only singles out Alex Salmond why ? I call it out as double standards

He has a show, the others don't. "

Ah right so what your saying is because a private citizen has a show you have a big problem with that

But you dont seem to have as big a problem with politicians from Labour Tory UKIP Greens going on RT doing interviews and giving their views on issues and actually getting payment to do so thats ok

Your problem is because he has a show lmao!!!!!!!!!

So if you really are against everyone going on RT then why you only singling Alex Salmond out ?

Seems like you have a big problem with a private citizen working tut tut

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"CLCC

Do you just have a problem because its a member of the SNP going on RT ?

What about all those MPs and members of Labour Tory UKIP do not have a problem with them appearing on RT ? Or is it just your hatred towarda the SNP ?

Which other politicians, or former politicians have shows on RT?

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ? Lol

I'm asking which have TV shows.

Ok i will answer it right none

So now will you answer mine eh soo...

Are you trying to deny politicians from either Labour , Tory , UKIP have never ever appeared on RT for interviews giving their views on theses ?

What is wrong what Alex Salmond going on RT but every other person its ok ? What is it because you wont be able to control what he says ?

It comes across CLCC like you have a big problem with a private citizen going on RT but then you dont have a problem with politicians from Labour , Tory and Lib Dem going on RT why is that ?

Is it just because he is a member of SNP that you have a problem with eh ?

I don't think anyone should go on RT, let alone have a show on the network.

Ok interesting so you pull up a thread on Alex Salmond having a show on RT

But somehow you managed to miss all those politicians from ( Labour , Tory ,UKIP Greens who would have all received a payment for appearing on Rt oohhh double standards lol

They don't have a show, he does.

Going right over your heed

Alex Salmond is a private citizen which he has every right to work where he wants correct ?

So all those politicians from Labour Tory UKIP Greens who went on RT to give their views on things and also received a payment for appearing on RT thats all ok then ?

You just have a problem because a private citizen has a show on RT ?

I call that bullshit i can see you pure hatred that you or the MSM wont be able to control what Alex says oh well

No, I said I don't think anyone should go on it.

Right so why have a go at Alex Salmond and not all the others then ?

Your thread only singles out Alex Salmond why ? I call it out as double standards

He has a show, the others don't.

Ah right so what your saying is because a private citizen has a show you have a big problem with that

But you dont seem to have as big a problem with politicians from Labour Tory UKIP Greens going on RT doing interviews and giving their views on issues and actually getting payment to do so thats ok

Your problem is because he has a show lmao!!!!!!!!!

So if you really are against everyone going on RT then why you only singling Alex Salmond out ?

Seems like you have a big problem with a private citizen working tut tut "

Because he has a show, the others dont, none of them should be on there.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Ok CLCC why is it then if you think none of them should go on RT why is it your only singling out Alex Salmond ?

You seem to be saying its because he has a show on RT that you have a problem with that

Yet you dont seem to have a problem with politicians going on RT and airing their views in interviews and getting paid on RT to do so

So because Alex Samlond has a show and the others dont as you keep saying thats ok for them to do it but just not Alex ?

Why are you only singling out Alex Salmond ? It really comes across as you have pure hatred towards a private citizen for working lol

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Ok CLCC why is it then if you think none of them should go on RT why is it your only singling out Alex Salmond ?

You seem to be saying its because he has a show on RT that you have a problem with that

Yet you dont seem to have a problem with politicians going on RT and airing their views in interviews and getting paid on RT to do so

So because Alex Samlond has a show and the others dont as you keep saying thats ok for them to do it but just not Alex ?

Why are you only singling out Alex Salmond ? It really comes across as you have pure hatred towards a private citizen for working lol

"

Because he has a show, they dont. No one should go on.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Ok CLCC why is it then if you think none of them should go on RT why is it your only singling out Alex Salmond ?

You seem to be saying its because he has a show on RT that you have a problem with that

Yet you dont seem to have a problem with politicians going on RT and airing their views in interviews and getting paid on RT to do so

So because Alex Samlond has a show and the others dont as you keep saying thats ok for them to do it but just not Alex ?

Why are you only singling out Alex Salmond ? It really comes across as you have pure hatred towards a private citizen for working lol

Because he has a show, they dont. No one should go on."

So if no one should go on RT as you say then why the hell are you only singling out Alex Salmond then ?

You keep saying its because he has a show on RT yet it doesnt come across like you have an issue with anyone else appearing on RT doing interviews sharing their views on issues

I call that out as double standards CLCC

So CLCC Jeremy Corbyn has done interviews on RT will you have a go at him for appearing on RT ? or is it really Alex Salmond you have a problem with eh ?

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge

If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation. "

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ?

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ? "

Yup.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ?

Yup."

So why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

You keep claiming its cause he has a show on RT yet it also seems like your trying to give others an excuse because they dont have a show its ok for them to do interviews on RT

If you are honestly against everyone appearing on RT then stop singling out Alex Salmond and condenm everyone going on it even if its only intervews they are doing

Like i said it comes across like your having a go a Alex Salmond bcecause he is doing a show on RT but it doesnt seem like you are bothered about others being paid to do interviews on RT even though you say you dont think anyone should go on it

You are all over the place with this

One may think you have a problem with Alex Salmond being able to say what he wants on this show and the MSM in the UK wont be able to shut him up lol Oh well

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ?

Yup.

So why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

You keep claiming its cause he has a show on RT yet it also seems like your trying to give others an excuse because they dont have a show its ok for them to do interviews on RT

If you are honestly against everyone appearing on RT then stop singling out Alex Salmond and condenm everyone going on it even if its only intervews they are doing

Like i said it comes across like your having a go a Alex Salmond bcecause he is doing a show on RT but it doesnt seem like you are bothered about others being paid to do interviews on RT even though you say you dont think anyone should go on it

You are all over the place with this

One may think you have a problem with Alex Salmond being able to say what he wants on this show and the MSM in the UK wont be able to shut him up lol Oh well "

He has a show, they don't, no one should go on it.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ?

Yup.

So why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

You keep claiming its cause he has a show on RT yet it also seems like your trying to give others an excuse because they dont have a show its ok for them to do interviews on RT

If you are honestly against everyone appearing on RT then stop singling out Alex Salmond and condenm everyone going on it even if its only intervews they are doing

Like i said it comes across like your having a go a Alex Salmond bcecause he is doing a show on RT but it doesnt seem like you are bothered about others being paid to do interviews on RT even though you say you dont think anyone should go on it

You are all over the place with this

One may think you have a problem with Alex Salmond being able to say what he wants on this show and the MSM in the UK wont be able to shut him up lol Oh well

He has a show, they don't, no one should go on it."

Lol

Yet again CLCC your singling out Alex Salmond why not have a go at everyone appearing on RT eh ?

You seem to be defending those people that appear on RT by doing interviews giving them an excuse what because they dont have a show its ok for them to go on RT eh ?

I will call you out if you really do not agree with anyone going on RT then have the balls to call out everyone appearing on RT instead of having a go at a private citizen working eh

Double standards from you and you know it

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ?

Yup.

So why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

You keep claiming its cause he has a show on RT yet it also seems like your trying to give others an excuse because they dont have a show its ok for them to do interviews on RT

If you are honestly against everyone appearing on RT then stop singling out Alex Salmond and condenm everyone going on it even if its only intervews they are doing

Like i said it comes across like your having a go a Alex Salmond bcecause he is doing a show on RT but it doesnt seem like you are bothered about others being paid to do interviews on RT even though you say you dont think anyone should go on it

You are all over the place with this

One may think you have a problem with Alex Salmond being able to say what he wants on this show and the MSM in the UK wont be able to shut him up lol Oh well

He has a show, they don't, no one should go on it.

Lol

Yet again CLCC your singling out Alex Salmond why not have a go at everyone appearing on RT eh ?

You seem to be defending those people that appear on RT by doing interviews giving them an excuse what because they dont have a show its ok for them to go on RT eh ?

I will call you out if you really do not agree with anyone going on RT then have the balls to call out everyone appearing on RT instead of having a go at a private citizen working eh

Double standards from you and you know it

"

No one should go on it.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ?

Yup.

So why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

You keep claiming its cause he has a show on RT yet it also seems like your trying to give others an excuse because they dont have a show its ok for them to do interviews on RT

If you are honestly against everyone appearing on RT then stop singling out Alex Salmond and condenm everyone going on it even if its only intervews they are doing

Like i said it comes across like your having a go a Alex Salmond bcecause he is doing a show on RT but it doesnt seem like you are bothered about others being paid to do interviews on RT even though you say you dont think anyone should go on it

You are all over the place with this

One may think you have a problem with Alex Salmond being able to say what he wants on this show and the MSM in the UK wont be able to shut him up lol Oh well

He has a show, they don't, no one should go on it.

Lol

Yet again CLCC your singling out Alex Salmond why not have a go at everyone appearing on RT eh ?

You seem to be defending those people that appear on RT by doing interviews giving them an excuse what because they dont have a show its ok for them to go on RT eh ?

I will call you out if you really do not agree with anyone going on RT then have the balls to call out everyone appearing on RT instead of having a go at a private citizen working eh

Double standards from you and you know it

No one should go on it. "

Ok so why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

I will await your go to answer its becausehe has a show and the others dont

and by giving that answer you are giving those people that go onto RT doing interviews an excuse to say it ok for them to go on because they dont have a show its only an invterview

Call it out if you are really against everyone going on RT dont make excuses for them

How about saying you think anyone that appears on RT whether it be a show or doing interviews is wrong and shouldnt do it

or i will take it that as you trying to only attack Alex Salmond.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Also

You should see the amount of MSP's in Scotland having a go at Alex Salmond a private citizen having a show on RT

Yet this same plonkers were ok to do interviews with Sputnik News and Mark Hirst is calling each everyone of them out on it good to see the double standards eh

"

And don't forget the snp s Alan Smith saying " what the fuck is he doing now " about salmond so members including the leader are against it !!!

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Also

You should see the amount of MSP's in Scotland having a go at Alex Salmond a private citizen having a show on RT

Yet this same plonkers were ok to do interviews with Sputnik News and Mark Hirst is calling each everyone of them out on it good to see the double standards eh

And don't forget the snp s Alan Smith saying " what the fuck is he doing now " about salmond so members including the leader are against it !!!"

And what ? i dont see your point

Ok some people in the SNP and Nicola said they would have advised Alex not to work with RT ?

Again and what ?

As a private Citizen Alex Salmond is quite within his right to do and work with whoever he wishes correct ?

I love this how unionists are foaming at the mouth at Alex Salmond choosing to set up his own show on RT

But unionists dont seem to give a damn about others actually doing interviews and being paid by RT go

figure eh lol

Oh well if it ratttles unionist cages so be it Alex Salmond is doing fuck all wrong!!

What your afraid is you wont be able to shit him up and people will be able to see and record to put it out their into social media

instead of the lies coming from the BBC ah well more fool you lot if you want to give the BBC £147 of your money for them to then lie to you

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ?

Yup.

So why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

You keep claiming its cause he has a show on RT yet it also seems like your trying to give others an excuse because they dont have a show its ok for them to do interviews on RT

If you are honestly against everyone appearing on RT then stop singling out Alex Salmond and condenm everyone going on it even if its only intervews they are doing

Like i said it comes across like your having a go a Alex Salmond bcecause he is doing a show on RT but it doesnt seem like you are bothered about others being paid to do interviews on RT even though you say you dont think anyone should go on it

You are all over the place with this

One may think you have a problem with Alex Salmond being able to say what he wants on this show and the MSM in the UK wont be able to shut him up lol Oh well

He has a show, they don't, no one should go on it.

Lol

Yet again CLCC your singling out Alex Salmond why not have a go at everyone appearing on RT eh ?

You seem to be defending those people that appear on RT by doing interviews giving them an excuse what because they dont have a show its ok for them to go on RT eh ?

I will call you out if you really do not agree with anyone going on RT then have the balls to call out everyone appearing on RT instead of having a go at a private citizen working eh

Double standards from you and you know it

No one should go on it.

Ok so why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

I will await your go to answer its becausehe has a show and the others dont

and by giving that answer you are giving those people that go onto RT doing interviews an excuse to say it ok for them to go on because they dont have a show its only an invterview

Call it out if you are really against everyone going on RT dont make excuses for them

How about saying you think anyone that appears on RT whether it be a show or doing interviews is wrong and shouldnt do it

or i will take it that as you trying to only attack Alex Salmond.

"

I think anyone that appears on RT whether it be a show or doing interviews is wrong and shouldnt do it

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

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Alex Salmond offered his programme to all TV Stations. RT put in the best bid. Remember its his Show being shown on TV by Russia Today - NO Russian input whatsoever. The plus is is that what he says will not be cut, lied about or distorted like his interview with Nick Robinson of the BBC

Remember Nick Robinson told people on the BBC news that Alex Salmond didnt answer his question but wee Nick was caught out fucking lying as Alex did infact answer his question

but hey like it said if you feel like giving the BBC £147 to lie to you go ahead more fool you

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

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"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ?

Yup.

So why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

You keep claiming its cause he has a show on RT yet it also seems like your trying to give others an excuse because they dont have a show its ok for them to do interviews on RT

If you are honestly against everyone appearing on RT then stop singling out Alex Salmond and condenm everyone going on it even if its only intervews they are doing

Like i said it comes across like your having a go a Alex Salmond bcecause he is doing a show on RT but it doesnt seem like you are bothered about others being paid to do interviews on RT even though you say you dont think anyone should go on it

You are all over the place with this

One may think you have a problem with Alex Salmond being able to say what he wants on this show and the MSM in the UK wont be able to shut him up lol Oh well

He has a show, they don't, no one should go on it.

Lol

Yet again CLCC your singling out Alex Salmond why not have a go at everyone appearing on RT eh ?

You seem to be defending those people that appear on RT by doing interviews giving them an excuse what because they dont have a show its ok for them to go on RT eh ?

I will call you out if you really do not agree with anyone going on RT then have the balls to call out everyone appearing on RT instead of having a go at a private citizen working eh

Double standards from you and you know it

No one should go on it.

Ok so why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

I will await your go to answer its becausehe has a show and the others dont

and by giving that answer you are giving those people that go onto RT doing interviews an excuse to say it ok for them to go on because they dont have a show its only an invterview

Call it out if you are really against everyone going on RT dont make excuses for them

How about saying you think anyone that appears on RT whether it be a show or doing interviews is wrong and shouldnt do it

or i will take it that as you trying to only attack Alex Salmond.

I think anyone that appears on RT whether it be a show or doing interviews is wrong and shouldnt do it"

Good , good finally got there eh CLCC

So do you think anyone that appears on the BBC is wrong and shouldnt do it ?

I will await you defending the BBC to the max and saying they dont lie and cover shit up like abuse

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"If you have your own show on RT, you earn your own thread of condemnation, if you just do interviews, you have to make do with general condemnation.

CLCC do you have a problem with Jeremy Corbyn doing interviews on RT and him sharing his views on issues ?

Should Jeremy Corbyn condemed for going on RT ?

Yup.

So why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

You keep claiming its cause he has a show on RT yet it also seems like your trying to give others an excuse because they dont have a show its ok for them to do interviews on RT

If you are honestly against everyone appearing on RT then stop singling out Alex Salmond and condenm everyone going on it even if its only intervews they are doing

Like i said it comes across like your having a go a Alex Salmond bcecause he is doing a show on RT but it doesnt seem like you are bothered about others being paid to do interviews on RT even though you say you dont think anyone should go on it

You are all over the place with this

One may think you have a problem with Alex Salmond being able to say what he wants on this show and the MSM in the UK wont be able to shut him up lol Oh well

He has a show, they don't, no one should go on it.

Lol

Yet again CLCC your singling out Alex Salmond why not have a go at everyone appearing on RT eh ?

You seem to be defending those people that appear on RT by doing interviews giving them an excuse what because they dont have a show its ok for them to go on RT eh ?

I will call you out if you really do not agree with anyone going on RT then have the balls to call out everyone appearing on RT instead of having a go at a private citizen working eh

Double standards from you and you know it

No one should go on it.

Ok so why are you singling out Alex Salmond ?

I will await your go to answer its becausehe has a show and the others dont

and by giving that answer you are giving those people that go onto RT doing interviews an excuse to say it ok for them to go on because they dont have a show its only an invterview

Call it out if you are really against everyone going on RT dont make excuses for them

How about saying you think anyone that appears on RT whether it be a show or doing interviews is wrong and shouldnt do it

or i will take it that as you trying to only attack Alex Salmond.

I think anyone that appears on RT whether it be a show or doing interviews is wrong and shouldnt do it

Good , good finally got there eh CLCC

So do you think anyone that appears on the BBC is wrong and shouldnt do it ?

I will await you defending the BBC to the max and saying they dont lie and cover shit up like abuse "

I said from the start people shouldn't go on RT. You however can't read what people post. You just read what you want them to have said, and then feign indignation at words they haven't written.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

CLCC

Do you think anyone appear on the BBC ?

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By *bi_scotlandTV/TS  over a year ago

Glasgow

One of the main pro-indy sites has come out with an article on RT and Russia to help out those who blindly support anything they believe helps independece. Quite surprised about it actually

http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2017/11/13/from-russia-with-lols/

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This is nothing to do with salmond being on RT as a Nat.

NO POLITION should be on rt full stop !!!!

No matter what party you belong to you are giving Putin's mouth piece legitimacy.

It the past many politions were on rt and that were wrong to appear !!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"This is nothing to do with salmond being on RT as a Nat.

NO POLITION should be on rt full stop !!!!

No matter what party you belong to you are giving Putin's mouth piece legitimacy.

It the past many politions were on rt and that were wrong to appear !!!!!"

WOW; WOW; WOW

you saying Alex Salmond is BACK into politics!!!!

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When did this happen, must have missed the news, where did you hear he was back into politics

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

He never left !!!

He just does not have a seat right now !!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"He never left !!!

He just does not have a seat right now !!!!"

so he was lying in various interviews when he said he did not miss politics one little bit

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

YES !!!!!

He is also in the media stating in the media when sturgeon is gonna call Indy ref 2 !!!!

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

Downing Street urges Alex Salmond to ditch Russia Today chat show

Oh no Dowing Street getting shit feart because they wont be able to control / cut the feed or censor Alex Salmond who is a private citizen

So let me get this right other former MPs are allowed to do what they want to do for whatever jobs but just not Alex Salmond what the fuck are they so afraid of oh thats again they wont be able to gag Alex or cut the feed to the so

The BBC are really bad for that eh remember Nick Robinson report about Alex Salmond not answering his question when infact wee Nick was caught out fucking lying as ALex did answer it.

Funny how Downing Street want to shit Alex Salmond up but hey its fucking fine to have Tory mps go on RT and share their views fucking double standards

Ah well am sure vids on youtube will come out that wont be edited out or feed cut uncensored with Alex Salmond telling you how it is thats what the elite fear

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Downing Street urges Alex Salmond to ditch Russia Today chat show

Oh no Dowing Street getting shit feart because they wont be able to control / cut the feed or censor Alex Salmond who is a private citizen

So let me get this right other former MPs are allowed to do what they want to do for whatever jobs but just not Alex Salmond what the fuck are they so afraid of oh thats again they wont be able to gag Alex or cut the feed to the so

The BBC are really bad for that eh remember Nick Robinson report about Alex Salmond not answering his question when infact wee Nick was caught out fucking lying as ALex did answer it.

Funny how Downing Street want to shit Alex Salmond up but hey its fucking fine to have Tory mps go on RT and share their views fucking double standards

Ah well am sure vids on youtube will come out that wont be edited out or feed cut uncensored with Alex Salmond telling you how it is thats what the elite fear "

It is absolutely laughable that "Downing Street" & Theresa May advise against, some say it is controlled by the Kremlin; Ehhh hello, wake up, its regulated by Ofcom!!!!!

.

Ofcom have censored more from ITV, Channel 4 & Sky News individually than they have from RT

and of course the BBC have been censored more than ITV, Channel 4 & Sky News combined.

.

Over 100 MP's have been broadcasted on RT, (no whinging about that is there).

What about Jeremy Corbyn? Vince Cable?? no complaints about them being on RT

.

Has anybody actually watched it, I have just finished watching first show which featured an interview with former Catalan president Carles Puigdemont and tackled issues including LGBT rights

.

Both were interesting topics and an excellent interview with Carles Puigdemont, who; was intervied in his forth language (English).

.

If RT is so bad, then Theresa May needs to have a word in the ear of "OFCOM" and while she is at it, she should have a word in their ear regarding the BBC who are far worse.

.

Following his interview with the ousted Catalan president, Mr Salmond offered a right of reply to the Spanish Government and insisted he has not given his support to Catalan independence

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By *bi_scotlandTV/TS  over a year ago

Glasgow

Very interesting comments from Alex Bell, Salmond's former head of policy and speechwriter. He speaks about the Russians getting in touch before the indy referendum and makes it clear what their priorities were. The words below are all his:

"In the run up to the 2014 referendum, the volume of contact with foreign governments increased. The meeting with Russian officials was more interesting than others for obvious reasons – it had an air of intrigue lacking from most appointments.

As I recall, we went through the usual chat of wanting an independent, peaceful country that would be a positive contributor to world affairs.

The Russians were interested in the commitment to no nuclear deterrence.

Then it was suggested that if Alex Salmond were to visit Moscow then this would be looked on positively. We took it to mean a meeting with Mr Putin.

The meeting ended, hands were shaken and smiles exchanged, and when the embassy representatives were gone, we agreed there would be no chance of following up the offer, and that was that.

What stood in 2012 still stands – Russia is not a functioning democracy, does not respect human rights, is in the habit of murdering government critics and would clearly like to destabilise the west."

"Mr Salmond has been lured by the siren calls of public exposure and money – none of which he is in need of. He’s already a darling to the SNP loyal, and is a millionaire.

Thus it is only an insecure ego which explains why he should lend his name to the propaganda channel.

The issue is not that he will become Mr Putin’s patsy – his role as a “useful idiot” has already been served by bringing huge publicity for an otherwise obscure cable channel."

"This is a sad tale. Mr Salmond could have sat out his days as the eternal darling of the nationalist movement, like a king across the water, toasted by devotees.

He could have become Scotland’s political elder, offering time and expertise to develop aspects of this country. He could have joined the boards of banks, served as a trustee to charities, while enjoying the interest from his investments.

Instead he’s eroding his own political capital, selling cheap his reputation. It is a blessing to his successors.

Nicola Sturgeon found his constant interventions and publicity seeking a distraction. The more he devalues himself, the less she has to worry about the consequences of what he says.

The sadness is that a man blessed with great political talents should become a novelty act."

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By *bi_scotlandTV/TS  over a year ago

Glasgow

Also, rather embarrasingly, the show has a number of questions that were asked on twitter and they've been shown to be fake from accounts that have never tweeted, well apart from the one that was sent by @lastjohn........ who it turns out is the series director.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Very interesting comments from Alex Bell, Salmond's former head of policy and speechwriter. He speaks about the Russians getting in touch before the indy referendum and makes it clear what their priorities were. The words below are all his:

"In the run up to the 2014 referendum, the volume of contact with foreign governments increased. The meeting with Russian officials was more interesting than others for obvious reasons – it had an air of intrigue lacking from most appointments.

As I recall, we went through the usual chat of wanting an independent, peaceful country that would be a positive contributor to world affairs.

The Russians were interested in the commitment to no nuclear deterrence.

Then it was suggested that if Alex Salmond were to visit Moscow then this would be looked on positively. We took it to mean a meeting with Mr Putin.

The meeting ended, hands were shaken and smiles exchanged, and when the embassy representatives were gone, we agreed there would be no chance of following up the offer, and that was that.

What stood in 2012 still stands – Russia is not a functioning democracy, does not respect human rights, is in the habit of murdering government critics and would clearly like to destabilise the west."

"Mr Salmond has been lured by the siren calls of public exposure and money – none of which he is in need of. He’s already a darling to the SNP loyal, and is a millionaire.

Thus it is only an insecure ego which explains why he should lend his name to the propaganda channel.

The issue is not that he will become Mr Putin’s patsy – his role as a “useful idiot” has already been served by bringing huge publicity for an otherwise obscure cable channel."

"This is a sad tale. Mr Salmond could have sat out his days as the eternal darling of the nationalist movement, like a king across the water, toasted by devotees.

He could have become Scotland’s political elder, offering time and expertise to develop aspects of this country. He could have joined the boards of banks, served as a trustee to charities, while enjoying the interest from his investments.

Instead he’s eroding his own political capital, selling cheap his reputation. It is a blessing to his successors.

Nicola Sturgeon found his constant interventions and publicity seeking a distraction. The more he devalues himself, the less she has to worry about the consequences of what he says.

The sadness is that a man blessed with great political talents should become a novelty act.""

Does that include 100 MP's who have also been on RT; sounds like you do not like Alex Salmond, perhaps he has a clear direction ahead, do you?

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By *bi_scotlandTV/TS  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Very interesting comments from Alex Bell, Salmond's former head of policy and speechwriter. He speaks about the Russians getting in touch before the indy referendum and makes it clear what their priorities were. The words below are all his:

"In the run up to the 2014 referendum, the volume of contact with foreign governments increased. The meeting with Russian officials was more interesting than others for obvious reasons – it had an air of intrigue lacking from most appointments.

As I recall, we went through the usual chat of wanting an independent, peaceful country that would be a positive contributor to world affairs.

The Russians were interested in the commitment to no nuclear deterrence.

Then it was suggested that if Alex Salmond were to visit Moscow then this would be looked on positively. We took it to mean a meeting with Mr Putin.

The meeting ended, hands were shaken and smiles exchanged, and when the embassy representatives were gone, we agreed there would be no chance of following up the offer, and that was that.

What stood in 2012 still stands – Russia is not a functioning democracy, does not respect human rights, is in the habit of murdering government critics and would clearly like to destabilise the west."

"Mr Salmond has been lured by the siren calls of public exposure and money – none of which he is in need of. He’s already a darling to the SNP loyal, and is a millionaire.

Thus it is only an insecure ego which explains why he should lend his name to the propaganda channel.

The issue is not that he will become Mr Putin’s patsy – his role as a “useful idiot” has already been served by bringing huge publicity for an otherwise obscure cable channel."

"This is a sad tale. Mr Salmond could have sat out his days as the eternal darling of the nationalist movement, like a king across the water, toasted by devotees.

He could have become Scotland’s political elder, offering time and expertise to develop aspects of this country. He could have joined the boards of banks, served as a trustee to charities, while enjoying the interest from his investments.

Instead he’s eroding his own political capital, selling cheap his reputation. It is a blessing to his successors.

Nicola Sturgeon found his constant interventions and publicity seeking a distraction. The more he devalues himself, the less she has to worry about the consequences of what he says.

The sadness is that a man blessed with great political talents should become a novelty act."

Does that include 100 MP's who have also been on RT; sounds like you do not like Alex Salmond, perhaps he has a clear direction ahead, do you?"

None of them should be on RT and I think we'll see less and less as the investigations into Russian interventions continue. Also, those were the words of Alex Bell, Salmonds former head of policy and speechwriter.

I should add, I'm pretty happy about him being on there as what's left of his reputation is taking a kicking from everyone except a small hardcore of nats.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"Very interesting comments from Alex Bell, Salmond's former head of policy and speechwriter. He speaks about the Russians getting in touch before the indy referendum and makes it clear what their priorities were. The words below are all his:

"In the run up to the 2014 referendum, the volume of contact with foreign governments increased. The meeting with Russian officials was more interesting than others for obvious reasons – it had an air of intrigue lacking from most appointments.

As I recall, we went through the usual chat of wanting an independent, peaceful country that would be a positive contributor to world affairs.

The Russians were interested in the commitment to no nuclear deterrence.

Then it was suggested that if Alex Salmond were to visit Moscow then this would be looked on positively. We took it to mean a meeting with Mr Putin.

The meeting ended, hands were shaken and smiles exchanged, and when the embassy representatives were gone, we agreed there would be no chance of following up the offer, and that was that.

What stood in 2012 still stands – Russia is not a functioning democracy, does not respect human rights, is in the habit of murdering government critics and would clearly like to destabilise the west."

"Mr Salmond has been lured by the siren calls of public exposure and money – none of which he is in need of. He’s already a darling to the SNP loyal, and is a millionaire.

Thus it is only an insecure ego which explains why he should lend his name to the propaganda channel.

The issue is not that he will become Mr Putin’s patsy – his role as a “useful idiot” has already been served by bringing huge publicity for an otherwise obscure cable channel."

"This is a sad tale. Mr Salmond could have sat out his days as the eternal darling of the nationalist movement, like a king across the water, toasted by devotees.

He could have become Scotland’s political elder, offering time and expertise to develop aspects of this country. He could have joined the boards of banks, served as a trustee to charities, while enjoying the interest from his investments.

Instead he’s eroding his own political capital, selling cheap his reputation. It is a blessing to his successors.

Nicola Sturgeon found his constant interventions and publicity seeking a distraction. The more he devalues himself, the less she has to worry about the consequences of what he says.

The sadness is that a man blessed with great political talents should become a novelty act."

Does that include 100 MP's who have also been on RT; sounds like you do not like Alex Salmond, perhaps he has a clear direction ahead, do you?

None of them should be on RT and I think we'll see less and less as the investigations into Russian interventions continue. Also, those were the words of Alex Bell, Salmonds former head of policy and speechwriter.

I should add, I'm pretty happy about him being on there as what's left of his reputation is taking a kicking from everyone except a small hardcore of nats. "

So how come its Alex Salmond that is being singled out ? Why not name and shame all of them instead of just talking about Alex Salmond it really does come across with some people that they hate Alex Salmond and will be more than happy to let others away with being on RT yes i know you have said none of them should go on but the point is none of you on here seem to be bothered by naming and shaming them its only Alex Salmond that getting it

Would it be ok for them to appear on the BBC ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What do you mean "Why is Alex Salmond being singled out"

Are there a horde of MPs that are getting their own show on RT we're just not aware of?

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By *bi_scotlandTV/TS  over a year ago

Glasgow


"Very interesting comments from Alex Bell, Salmond's former head of policy and speechwriter. He speaks about the Russians getting in touch before the indy referendum and makes it clear what their priorities were. The words below are all his:

"In the run up to the 2014 referendum, the volume of contact with foreign governments increased. The meeting with Russian officials was more interesting than others for obvious reasons – it had an air of intrigue lacking from most appointments.

As I recall, we went through the usual chat of wanting an independent, peaceful country that would be a positive contributor to world affairs.

The Russians were interested in the commitment to no nuclear deterrence.

Then it was suggested that if Alex Salmond were to visit Moscow then this would be looked on positively. We took it to mean a meeting with Mr Putin.

The meeting ended, hands were shaken and smiles exchanged, and when the embassy representatives were gone, we agreed there would be no chance of following up the offer, and that was that.

What stood in 2012 still stands – Russia is not a functioning democracy, does not respect human rights, is in the habit of murdering government critics and would clearly like to destabilise the west."

"Mr Salmond has been lured by the siren calls of public exposure and money – none of which he is in need of. He’s already a darling to the SNP loyal, and is a millionaire.

Thus it is only an insecure ego which explains why he should lend his name to the propaganda channel.

The issue is not that he will become Mr Putin’s patsy – his role as a “useful idiot” has already been served by bringing huge publicity for an otherwise obscure cable channel."

"This is a sad tale. Mr Salmond could have sat out his days as the eternal darling of the nationalist movement, like a king across the water, toasted by devotees.

He could have become Scotland’s political elder, offering time and expertise to develop aspects of this country. He could have joined the boards of banks, served as a trustee to charities, while enjoying the interest from his investments.

Instead he’s eroding his own political capital, selling cheap his reputation. It is a blessing to his successors.

Nicola Sturgeon found his constant interventions and publicity seeking a distraction. The more he devalues himself, the less she has to worry about the consequences of what he says.

The sadness is that a man blessed with great political talents should become a novelty act."

Does that include 100 MP's who have also been on RT; sounds like you do not like Alex Salmond, perhaps he has a clear direction ahead, do you?

None of them should be on RT and I think we'll see less and less as the investigations into Russian interventions continue. Also, those were the words of Alex Bell, Salmonds former head of policy and speechwriter.

I should add, I'm pretty happy about him being on there as what's left of his reputation is taking a kicking from everyone except a small hardcore of nats.

So how come its Alex Salmond that is being singled out ? Why not name and shame all of them instead of just talking about Alex Salmond it really does come across with some people that they hate Alex Salmond and will be more than happy to let others away with being on RT yes i know you have said none of them should go on but the point is none of you on here seem to be bothered by naming and shaming them its only Alex Salmond that getting it

Would it be ok for them to appear on the BBC ? "

Why don't you ask Salmond's former head of policy and speechwriter (no idea how many times I'll have to repeat that...) why he's singling out Salmond for criticism?

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"What do you mean "Why is Alex Salmond being singled out"

Are there a horde of MPs that are getting their own show on RT we're just not aware of?"

No, there is only one who has their own show, Alex sombody....

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond


"What do you mean "Why is Alex Salmond being singled out"

Are there a horde of MPs that are getting their own show on RT we're just not aware of?"

Ah but its ok for them to appear on RT doing interviews

If you believe none of them should be on RT then instead of just naming Alex Salmond get them all named and shamed then

How about Jeremy Corbyn i dont see anyone single one of you naming and shaming him for going on RT

Double standards and you know it is

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"What do you mean "Why is Alex Salmond being singled out"

Are there a horde of MPs that are getting their own show on RT we're just not aware of?

Ah but its ok for them to appear on RT doing interviews

If you believe none of them should be on RT then instead of just naming Alex Salmond get them all named and shamed then

How about Jeremy Corbyn i dont see anyone single one of you naming and shaming him for going on RT

Double standards and you know it is "

Do you have a problem with your short term memory? Why do you keep asking the same question that has already been answered? Have you forgotten what was said last time?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What do you mean "Why is Alex Salmond being singled out"

Are there a horde of MPs that are getting their own show on RT we're just not aware of?

No, there is only one who has their own show, Alex sombody...."

come on CLCC; you should already be aware that Alex Salmond is not an MP or SMP, he is no longer a politician, but yet you seem to think he is and criticise him for this.

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will put it in capitals for you;

ALEX SALMOND IS NOT AN MP OR SMP

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he can do as he wishes

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What do you mean "Why is Alex Salmond being singled out"

Are there a horde of MPs that are getting their own show on RT we're just not aware of?

Ah but its ok for them to appear on RT doing interviews

If you believe none of them should be on RT then instead of just naming Alex Salmond get them all named and shamed then

How about Jeremy Corbyn i dont see anyone single one of you naming and shaming him for going on RT

Double standards and you know it is "

That's not double standards at all.

While I'm of the opinion that RT should be ignored until it goes away, and nobody should give them the time of day, there is a very big difference between giving interviews on RT as part of your job and being paid by RT to host a show on their network.

Pretending they're the same thing won't fly, I'm afraid.

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By *LCC OP   Couple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"What do you mean "Why is Alex Salmond being singled out"

Are there a horde of MPs that are getting their own show on RT we're just not aware of?

No, there is only one who has their own show, Alex sombody....

come on CLCC; you should already be aware that Alex Salmond is not an MP or SMP, he is no longer a politician, but yet you seem to think he is and criticise him for this.

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will put it in capitals for you;

ALEX SALMOND IS NOT AN MP OR SMP

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he can do as he wishes "

Such as trying to attract people to watch Russian state sponsored media even though the Russian state is involved is systemic cyber attacks, annexations, invasions and interfering in elections.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I don't think anyone thinks Alex Salmond isn't free to do as he wishes, but in the same way as he is free to do as he pleases, we are free to agree or disagree with his new career choice.

Framing as an issue of "can he" rather than "should he" is a waste of everyone's time.

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By *inkyHnSCouple  over a year ago

The Council of Elrond

CLCC do you think people should go on the BBC ?

Do you feel great about handing over |£147 for the BBC to lie to you ? Oh wait the BBC never lie and cover up stuff

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For once i agree with Kinky.........But maybe not for the same reasons....Salmond is not in any position of power and has almost no influence. He is yesterdays failed leader and now also a reject MP...So he is entitled to make a career where he can.....Oh and better still after being on RT he will never again be elected to anything more powerful than co-chair of his local sanitation committee

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By *andACouple  over a year ago

glasgow

Can we discuss austerity?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"The NHS is fucking fantastic.

Every country I've ever lived in has had an inferior health service to the NHS.

And that's exclusively wealthy western nations, before anyone gets any funny ideas. "

Whilst I don't think the NHS is shit I'm not sure I'd go along with your statement that 'Every country I've ever lived in has had an inferior health service to the NHS'. I can think of 3 European countries that have a health service which could be argued is better and most of the rest of West Europe has health services that are arguably just as good.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Socialism and all forms of Marxist ideology are subversive...

The NHS is socialist healthcare

And it is shit...they get alot of money....

NHS might be a lot of things, wasteful, inefficient but never shit.

Many other nations wish they had a service that was a fraction of what the NHS delivers to our people "

But non, not even those that could easily afford to, have copied the organisational and funding model of the NHS. Ever wonder why?

We do have a good health service in the UK and it is better than a lot of (much poorer) counties around the world, we are right to be proud of that, but it is definitely not the envy of the world and it is also not the best health service in the world in terms of real patient outcomes.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"The moon is made of wenslydale cheese, ive no proof but i said it so it must be true! "

Don't be so f'ing daft! If the moon was made out of Wenslydale it would have crumbled to pieces when Armstrong landed on it. Ffs man, get real!!

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Suspicion is not evidence.... That's a rule of law

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But credible suspicion is grounds for an investigation, and that's where we are on Trump and Russia.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Illuminating, as always.

But here's the rub, the agencies whose stock and trade this is are convinced that Russia has attempted to influence the 2016 election, so what the internet peanut gallery does or does not believe is of little consequence..

What like they were convinced about wmds in Iraq?.

Or that they knew Osama was definitely in Afghanistan?.

Maybe that they absolutely definitely are absolutely sure that no American uranium was used in North Korean bombs?.

Of course they were right about Benghazi as well, that's a defo right there.

Do you think Hillary was definitely right in her thoughts that maybe drone striking whistleblowers is the best policy for keeping her shit secrets secret? "

I thought you wanted evidence? It seems a pretty double standard your running. Any suspicion of Hillary you treat as absolute truth and condemn her accordingly but choose to ignore the ever growing signals that something may not be quite right with Donald and Russia. Some what biased thinking I think.

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By *bi_scotlandTV/TS  over a year ago

Glasgow

A recent study has found that almost 400k tweets were sent by bots (believed to be Russian) about Scottish Independence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"A recent study has found that almost 400k tweets were sent by bots (believed to be Russian) about Scottish Independence."

do not forget the fake Indy ref count vids on youtube that were traced back to sputnick the other Russian/ Putin missinformation service !!!

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By *educedWoman  over a year ago

Birmingham

Yeah but do you think red would suit me?

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