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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

well mrs maygabe's torys have a magic money tree, so maybe she can give that a wave around and come up with the promised weekly amount of 350 big ones ... or maybe they'll just carry on being a bunch of useless turds

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well."

Like replacing all the EU nurses that quit?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well."

Deluded

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Like replacing all the EU nurses that quit? "

jobseekers allowance maybe

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Many people seem to misunderstand just what a promise is especially when it comes to politics, and seem to neglect the authority, accountability and ability of the person making said "promise".

I'm truly astounded that people actually believed that the £350m per week to the NHS was a promise, it was simply a fanciful idea that sounded good but it lacked all elements of a promise.

In next weeks news, there will be calls to finally begin harvesting cheese from the moon.

Ginger

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon "

They know full well they'll never get it, it was alway a simple lie for simple people.

But it's a fantastic stick to beat the pro-brexit government with.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon

They know full well they'll never get it, it was alway a simple lie for simple people.

But it's a fantastic stick to beat the pro-brexit government with. "

"Simple people" Nice

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Like replacing all the EU nurses that quit? "

Hopefully yes, with fully trained Brits, The NHS is totally incompetent right now, part of that is due to cash and part due to incompetence of people working within it, that includes nurses an doctors

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

They never said it would, just that it could be for example!

Poor choice of words maybe but nobody really thought it would be a whole 350,000,000

Other countries are more financially viable for a lot of European nurses to work at this time so if they can earn the same or closer at home they will do

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded "

How is this deluded?

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded

How is this deluded?"

Because rather than having 350 million a week 'left over' - unless an economic miracle occurs in the next 2 years or so, Brexit is going to be a net cost, not a saving.

As a poster above said, it was a simple lie designed to con simple people.

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By *rumpyMcFuckNuggetMan  over a year ago

Den of Iniquity


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Like replacing all the EU nurses that quit?

Hopefully yes, with fully trained Brits, The NHS is totally incompetent right now, part of that is due to cash and part due to incompetence of people working within it, that includes nurses an doctors "

I'm afraid the problem is much simpler than that . Too many people and not enough hospitals or staff in them . That's it .

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded

How is this deluded?

Because rather than having 350 million a week 'left over' - unless an economic miracle occurs in the next 2 years or so, Brexit is going to be a net cost, not a saving.

As a poster above said, it was a simple lie designed to con simple people."

I was referring to the reply that said we are still in the EU.

It was a factually correct answer, certainly nothing deluded about it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded

How is this deluded?

Because rather than having 350 million a week 'left over' - unless an economic miracle occurs in the next 2 years or so, Brexit is going to be a net cost, not a saving.

As a poster above said, it was a simple lie designed to con simple people.

I was referring to the reply that said we are still in the EU.

It was a factually correct answer, certainly nothing deluded about it."

But its not factually correct...because ever the figure was wrong...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded

How is this deluded?

Because rather than having 350 million a week 'left over' - unless an economic miracle occurs in the next 2 years or so, Brexit is going to be a net cost, not a saving.

As a poster above said, it was a simple lie designed to con simple people.

I was referring to the reply that said we are still in the EU.

It was a factually correct answer, certainly nothing deluded about it.

But its not factually correct...because ever the figure was wrong..."

Read what I have just posted again.

Are we still in the EU or not?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded

How is this deluded?

Because rather than having 350 million a week 'left over' - unless an economic miracle occurs in the next 2 years or so, Brexit is going to be a net cost, not a saving.

As a poster above said, it was a simple lie designed to con simple people.

I was referring to the reply that said we are still in the EU.

It was a factually correct answer, certainly nothing deluded about it.

But its not factually correct...because ever the figure was wrong...

Read what I have just posted again.

Are we still in the EU or not?"

Maybe you should also read...the original post....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Maybe you should also read...the original post.... "

I did, and I watched the speech given by Simon Stevens.

The £350m on the side of the bus was a publicity stunt. Simon Stevens knows that. Asking for that money is like trying to cash in Monopoly money at the bank.

The NHS would still be underfunded if the UK had voted remain.

Even if there was £350m a week would that really solve the problem?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


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Even if there was £350m a week would that really solve the problem?"

It wouldn't solve the problem 100%. But it would help. That's how reality works. If we didn't do things because they weren't 100% effective then we'd never do anything positive.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded

How is this deluded?

Because rather than having 350 million a week 'left over' - unless an economic miracle occurs in the next 2 years or so, Brexit is going to be a net cost, not a saving.

As a poster above said, it was a simple lie designed to con simple people."

weyyyy wondered how long it would take you to insult the leave voters or the simple ppl as you say lol

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By *ostaCostaCouple  over a year ago

Spain


"They never said it would, just that it could be for example!

Poor choice of words maybe but nobody really thought it would be a whole 350,000,000

Other countries are more financially viable for a lot of European nurses to work at this time so if they can earn the same or closer at home they will do"

Many EU nurses working in the UK speak only one foreign language - English

The majority simply don't have a choice of working in other EU countries other than their own

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By *ighland gentlemanMan  over a year ago

Ardgay

The NHS suffers from having to treat an increasingly large number of ill and elderly with multiple conditions.

We are a victim of our own success, we keep more folk alive for longer.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded

How is this deluded?

Because rather than having 350 million a week 'left over' - unless an economic miracle occurs in the next 2 years or so, Brexit is going to be a net cost, not a saving.

As a poster above said, it was a simple lie designed to con simple people. weyyyy wondered how long it would take you to insult the leave voters or the simple ppl as you say lol"

Given the excuses being trotted out amount to "nobody could have honestly believed this particular promise to be true" how would you characterise people who did, in fact, believe it to be true?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

well it goes back to everyone asking them to remove the message from the side of the bus....... even the ASA (advertising standards authority) asked them nicely to remove it as it could be seen as misleading.. but because it was "political" it was outside their remit to order it taken down.... and they refused...

They reap what they sow on the promise now... if they now always get beaten over the head with it then so be it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"well it goes back to everyone asking them to remove the message from the side of the bus....... even the ASA (advertising standards authority) asked them nicely to remove it as it could be seen as misleading.. but because it was "political" it was outside their remit to order it taken down.... and they refused...

They reap what they sow on the promise now... if they now always get beaten over the head with it then so be it! "

Well that 350 million is wrong apparently. Its around 980 million.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon "

Surely, if it was in anyway true, they'd only get the cash once we'd left?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Like replacing all the EU nurses that quit? "

there were no nurses available to fill the thousands of posts available prior to the referendum. There are no nurses available to replace those retiring, quitting through low moral and any choosing to quit due to Brexit.

Every student nurse who qualifies is guaranteed a job because there are more posts than applicants nationwide.

What does the government do? Remove the bursary.

Does anyone truly believe this government is interested in the longevity of our NHS?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Many people seem to misunderstand just what a promise is especially when it comes to politics, and seem to neglect the authority, accountability and ability of the person making said "promise".

I'm truly astounded that people actually believed that the £350m per week to the NHS was a promise, it was simply a fanciful idea that sounded good but it lacked all elements of a promise.

In next weeks news, there will be calls to finally begin harvesting cheese from the moon.

Ginger "

Spot on. I laughed when i heard people actually believed this.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon

They know full well they'll never get it, it was alway a simple lie for simple people.

But it's a fantastic stick to beat the pro-brexit government with. "

It wasn't a lie but an idea. Those who viewed it as a promise were foolish.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Like replacing all the EU nurses that quit?

Hopefully yes, with fully trained Brits, The NHS is totally incompetent right now, part of that is due to cash and part due to incompetence of people working within it, that includes nurses an doctors "

You're talking outing of your bloody arse. The government input is incompetent.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston


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You're talking outing of your bloody arse. The government input is incompetent."

Why do so many think the government is incompetent?

There is nothing incompetent about what they are doing anywhere, be it brexit, the management of the economy that has seen seven and half years of cuts to public spending and welfare both at a national and local level, or the dismantling and selling off of the NHS and national education system to fund the doubling of wealth held by the top 1%. Each and every one of them has at some point told the country what their intentions were if ever they were given power. They are now making good on those promises and still a vast swath of the county mistake the flow of shit from their arses as the sun, moon and stars!

7 1/2 years of austerity and national debt up from 70% of GDP to 90% of GDP, homelessness doubled, NHS on the brink of collapse and no progress in the brexit talks. This is not incompetence! This is the deliberate dismantlement of the state for the benefit of the super wealthy!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You're talking outing of your bloody arse. The government input is incompetent.

Why do so many think the government is incompetent?

There is nothing incompetent about what they are doing anywhere, be it brexit, the management of the economy that has seen seven and half years of cuts to public spending and welfare both at a national and local level, or the dismantling and selling off of the NHS and national education system to fund the doubling of wealth held by the top 1%. Each and every one of them has at some point told the country what their intentions were if ever they were given power. They are now making good on those promises and still a vast swath of the county mistake the flow of shit from their arses as the sun, moon and stars!

7 1/2 years of austerity and national debt up from 70% of GDP to 90% of GDP, homelessness doubled, NHS on the brink of collapse and no progress in the brexit talks. This is not incompetence! This is the deliberate dismantlement of the state for the benefit of the super wealthy!"

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon "

I think you'll find Farage never said that.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon

I think you'll find Farage never said that."

I think you will find he said it ....in many speeches he made along with others

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon

I think you'll find Farage never said that.

I think you will find he said it ....in many speeches he made along with others "

Nigel Farage actually distanced himself from the £350 million figure.

As he was not actually part of the official Leave campaign, he had no reason to be affiliated to it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon

I think you'll find Farage never said that.

I think you will find he said it ....in many speeches he made along with others

Nigel Farage actually distanced himself from the £350 million figure.

As he was not actually part of the official Leave campaign, he had no reason to be affiliated to it."

He distanced himself once it was found out to be untrue...and he waqs part of the leave campaigne

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The NHS should not be given more money...

They misspent the money they get...

They need to sort out internal corruption and usless admin staff on permanent contracts....

There are not enough doctors and too many middle people

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"I see the NHS are calling for the 350m that was on the side of the bus....this is from the chairman of the NHS i believe....does anyone think they will get get it or were they sold a croc of shite by Farage and the buffoon

I think you'll find Farage never said that.

I think you will find he said it ....in many speeches he made along with others

Nigel Farage actually distanced himself from the £350 million figure.

As he was not actually part of the official Leave campaign, he had no reason to be affiliated to it.

He distanced himself once it was found out to be untrue...and he waqs part of the leave campaigne "

No, he was part of grassroots out, not the leave campaign.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The NHS should not be given more money...

They misspent the money they get...

They need to sort out internal corruption and usless admin staff on permanent contracts....

There are not enough doctors and too many middle people"

Not enough health professionals fullstop

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

"Not enough health profesionals"

^^^^ofcourse.... this is socialism..

They are all social workers....

You need doctors...

Not some cunt asking you "how do you feel in the last 2 weeks"

^^^they are wasteing public money and the usefull idiot broad masses will never question it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Many people seem to misunderstand just what a promise is especially when it comes to politics, and seem to neglect the authority, accountability and ability of the person making said "promise".

I'm truly astounded that people actually believed that the £350m per week to the NHS was a promise, it was simply a fanciful idea that sounded good but it lacked all elements of a promise.

In next weeks news, there will be calls to finally begin harvesting cheese from the moon.

Ginger "

I don’t know a single person who believed it. And I know some right numpties.

Either way there was no promise...ther was a SUGGESTION.

The actual wording was “we send £350million a week to the EU” (and we ALL knew that’s not the true figure). “ Let’s spend it on the NHS instead”..... a suggestion only. Not a promise, and the suggestion was made by someone who was not in power.

I could “suggest” we spend it on white chocolate.... it would be no more or less of a promise. No more or less likely either.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


""Not enough health profesionals"

^^^^ofcourse.... this is socialism..

They are all social workers....

You need doctors...

Not some cunt asking you "how do you feel in the last 2 weeks"

^^^they are wasteing public money and the usefull idiot broad masses will never question it.

"

Shall we let Richard Branson run it then from the British Virgin Isles

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Many people seem to misunderstand just what a promise is especially when it comes to politics, and seem to neglect the authority, accountability and ability of the person making said "promise".

I'm truly astounded that people actually believed that the £350m per week to the NHS was a promise, it was simply a fanciful idea that sounded good but it lacked all elements of a promise.

In next weeks news, there will be calls to finally begin harvesting cheese from the moon.

Ginger

I don’t know a single person who believed it. And I know some right numpties.

Either way there was no promise...ther was a SUGGESTION.

The actual wording was “we send £350million a week to the EU” (and we ALL knew that’s not the true figure). “ Let’s spend it on the NHS instead”..... a suggestion only. Not a promise, and the suggestion was made by someone who was not in power.

I could “suggest” we spend it on white chocolate.... it would be no more or less of a promise. No more or less likely either."

But the thing is people DID believe the suggestion....a few on here did...and it influenced there vote

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By *eavenscentitCouple  over a year ago

barnstaple


""Not enough health profesionals"

^^^^ofcourse.... this is socialism..

They are all social workers....

You need doctors...

Not some cunt asking you "how do you feel in the last 2 weeks"

^^^they are wasteing public money and the usefull idiot broad masses will never question it.

"

What do you do ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Shall we let Richard Branson run it then from the British Virgin Isles "

No.

I think it should be made more basic. Strip it down. Cut costs...

I'm happy to keep some level of socialist care but not as much influence as the NHS currently has...

They mismanage money and all the beurocracy drains cash...

Also they let immigrants come hear from Syria and Pakistan and they recieve the bennefits of expensive socialism...it's all free for new people.

^^^^I worked abroad and didn't get free healthcare...I don't get why people come hear and get money and jobs english people should be doing.

^^^British liberal minded people are very silly. The healthcare system is drained by old ladies from Pakistan.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nobody gives a shit about these brown people using the NHS because what it costs to treat them is essentially a rounding error in the NHS budget.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What do you do ?

Gardener

NHS catering

NHS admin

Caretaker

Teacher

....nothing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What do you do ?

Gardener

NHS catering

NHS admin

Caretaker

Teacher

....nothing"

Yes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What do you do?"

I went to uni before that (a real degree)

Volenteer abit now

And I had my own business for a while (delivering food)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Was good having my own business but then the tax situation killed my idea so I signed on...

^^^that was after uni....

Socialism kinda forced you into shit meaningless work or the dole...

^^^^so I went to work in Asia...

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By *eavenscentitCouple  over a year ago

barnstaple


"What do you do?

I went to uni before that (a real degree)

Volenteer abit now

And I had my own business for a while (delivering food)"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The posts are structured like a conversation, yet there's only one person posting....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

You ask what I do currently...

I'm receiving healthcare...

^^^^I paid for it....

So why my appointments are agonisingly limited?

I should be back living my life...

Instead of relying on the slow paced NHS

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The posts are structured like a conversation, yet there's only one person posting...."

What's this? The Marxist club?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The posts are structured like a conversation, yet there's only one person posting....

What's this? The Marxist club?"

Yes.

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By *eavenscentitCouple  over a year ago

barnstaple


"The posts are structured like a conversation, yet there's only one person posting....

What's this? The Marxist club?

Yes."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

At some point you've just got to tell them what they want to hear.

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By *eavenscentitCouple  over a year ago

barnstaple


"At some point you've just got to tell them what they want to hear."

I did chuckle

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Was good having my own business but then the tax situation killed my idea so I signed on...

^^^that was after uni....

Socialism kinda forced you into shit meaningless work or the dole...

^^^^so I went to work in Asia...

"

So its ok for you to go work in a foreign country...but not them...hows that work

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Nigel Farage actually distanced himself from the £350 million figure.

As he was not actually part of the official Leave campaign, he had no reason to be affiliated to it."

you are right that farage did distance himself from the 350 million figure..... 4hrs after they won the referendum and only when pushed about it by susanna reid on good morning britain!!!

he did not say anything about it during the campaign

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

Either way there was no promise...ther was a SUGGESTION.

The actual wording was “we send £350million a week to the EU” (and we ALL knew that’s not the true figure). “ Let’s spend it on the NHS instead”..... a suggestion only. Not a promise, and the suggestion was made by someone who was not in power.

I could “suggest” we spend it on white chocolate.... it would be no more or less of a promise. No more or less likely either."

Come on, that's a total cop out.

The 'suggestion' was part of an official campaign and was being used to try and influence people.

If we stop holding politicians to account for what they say in campaigns then we may as well give up on democracy.

And not to focus on semantics too much, but it wasn't even a suggestion. A suggestion is in the form of 'shall we do this, maybe?'

'Let's fund the NHS instead' is a proposal. A clear plan.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So its ok for you to go work in a foreign country...but not them...hows that work "

Yes because I was an asset to the economy and didn't recieve any benefits from them.

I was in a reserved occupation teaching their children ABC.

After my job finished I had to go...

^^^I wasn't just sponging off the state

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yah...the Marxist liberal lefty forum....

You probably want me to go hug a Muslim?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yah...the Marxist liberal lefty forum....

You probably want me to go hug a Muslim?"

I guess I'd settle for not treating the idea of showing basic human decency towards someone as being a horrible imposition simply because of their religious.

But a hug is good too.

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"Many people seem to misunderstand just what a promise is especially when it comes to politics, and seem to neglect the authority, accountability and ability of the person making said "promise".

I'm truly astounded that people actually believed that the £350m per week to the NHS was a promise, it was simply a fanciful idea that sounded good but it lacked all elements of a promise.

In next weeks news, there will be calls to finally begin harvesting cheese from the moon.

Ginger

I don’t know a single person who believed it. And I know some right numpties.

Either way there was no promise...ther was a SUGGESTION.

The actual wording was “we send £350million a week to the EU” (and we ALL knew that’s not the true figure). “ Let’s spend it on the NHS instead”..... a suggestion only. Not a promise, and the suggestion was made by someone who was not in power.

I could “suggest” we spend it on white chocolate.... it would be no more or less of a promise. No more or less likely either.

But the thing is people DID believe the suggestion....a few on here did...and it influenced there vote"

You're absolutely right...

And people believed

there would be an immediate and deep recession

That house prices would drop by 10%

That 800,000 jobs would be lost

Western political civilization would be destroyed

It would cause a world war

Am immediate £30 Billion emergency tax raising budget

The EU did not want a centrally controlled army

And those people who believed those suggestions, let them influence their votes....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I guess I'd settle for not treating the idea of showing basic human decency towards someone as being a horrible imposition simply because of their religious"

It's a backwards evil cult.

I don't give much credibility to Abraham in the first place but Jews and Christians are not the ones beheading anyone who thinks they are wrong...

Islam does not bellong hear. If you appease it you are one of its "usefull idiots" (lenin)

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I guess I'd settle for not treating the idea of showing basic human decency towards someone as being a horrible imposition simply because of their religious

It's a backwards evil cult.

I don't give much credibility to Abraham in the first place but Jews and Christians are not the ones beheading anyone who thinks they are wrong...

Islam does not bellong hear. If you appease it you are one of its "usefull idiots" (lenin)

Quran (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends"

"

Islam belongs pretty much anywhere, it's just a religion.

And if we hold that people ought to be free to worship as they please, then guess what that means?

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded "

Talking about yourself again

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well firstly we are still in the EU so he should not say it and secondly the answer to your question is no they will not get that much I am sure.

There may well be 350 mill spare but it will have to go on other things as well.

Deluded Talking about yourself again"

Nope talking about the people who believed it

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Was good having my own business but then the tax situation killed my idea so I signed on...

^^^that was after uni....

Socialism kinda forced you into shit meaningless work or the dole...

^^^^so I went to work in Asia...

"

Never give them the satisfaction of pandering to their noseyness!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Islam belongs pretty much anywhere, it's just a religion.

And if we hold that people ought to be free to worship as they please, then guess what that means?"

No "usefull idiots" should be guided away from totalitarian death cults...

Your using typical subversion tactics that the left always use...

The quoran directly tells Muslims it's ok to force their beliefs.

When the Muslim population of this country gets high enough it will become an Islamic state...

It's already happening^^^^

Manchester arena gets blown up by a suicide bomber and all the pathetic Marxist kalegi media can do is kiss the arses of "good muslims"

Mohamed was a peado^^^^ how can someone who worships a warlord peado be a good person?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Islam belongs pretty much anywhere, it's just a religion.

And if we hold that people ought to be free to worship as they please, then guess what that means?

No "usefull idiots" should be guided away from totalitarian death cults...

Your using typical subversion tactics that the left always use...

The quoran directly tells Muslims it's ok to force their beliefs.

When the Muslim population of this country gets high enough it will become an Islamic state...

It's already happening^^^^

Manchester arena gets blown up by a suicide bomber and all the pathetic Marxist kalegi media can do is kiss the arses of "good muslims"

Mohamed was a peado^^^^ how can someone who worships a warlord peado be a good person?

"

There's roughly 1.8 billion Muslims in the world, you're going to have a very hard time selling me the idea that you've vetted all of them and found them not to be good people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

There's roughly 1.8 billion Muslims in the world, you're going to have a very hard time selling me the idea that you've vetted all of them and found them not to be good people."

The religion is bad...the people themselves are just "usefull idiots" and "broad masses"

^^^^they don't know any better

You can't tell them about the hadron collider (they are too stupid to understand these basic concepts of science)

^^^^it disproves the things they believe so they support terrorists.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Islam belongs pretty much anywhere, it's just a religion.

And if we hold that people ought to be free to worship as they please, then guess what that means?

No "usefull idiots" should be guided away from totalitarian death cults...

Your using typical subversion tactics that the left always use...

The quoran directly tells Muslims it's ok to force their beliefs.

When the Muslim population of this country gets high enough it will become an Islamic state...

It's already happening^^^^

Manchester arena gets blown up by a suicide bomber and all the pathetic Marxist kalegi media can do is kiss the arses of "good muslims"

Mohamed was a peado^^^^ how can someone who worships a warlord peado be a good person?

"

Your very raciest

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Islam and Marxism are both evil ideologies and you labour voters have allowed a Trojan horse into europe.

Cologne is already fucked quite literally. That disgusting Merkel and jeromy corbyn deserve eachother.

As I watch Europe fall apart and gradually decline into the caliphate...

^^^I can thank you labour voters

High tax...no freedom.."political correctness"....welcome to Marxism..

And you have the nerve to moan about public services?

Really?

Perhaps you shouldn't be giving your money to Brussels and Syrians.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

priceless

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

"Your very raciest "

Think before you throw subversive Marxist labels at me....

I've not once mentioned race...just Islam...

I find this websight fetishists race...^^^^typical liberals

white liberals are manipulative towards all races and minorities...you tokenise them....you speak for them...

Marxists and liberals grasp for opression points but the groups you tokenise are wise to your tactics.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


""Your very raciest "

Think before you throw subversive Marxist labels at me....

I've not once mentioned race...just Islam...

I find this websight fetishists race...^^^^typical liberals

white liberals are manipulative towards all races and minorities...you tokenise them....you speak for them...

Marxists and liberals grasp for opression points but the groups you tokenise are wise to your tactics."

Nah your a raciest

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And you are a marxist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

There's roughly 1.8 billion Muslims in the world, you're going to have a very hard time selling me the idea that you've vetted all of them and found them not to be good people.

The religion is bad...the people themselves are just "usefull idiots" and "broad masses"

^^^^they don't know any better

You can't tell them about the hadron collider (they are too stupid to understand these basic concepts of science)

^^^^it disproves the things they believe so they support terrorists."

That's some grade A old skool 'cism.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

ahem ... The Workers and Peasants Party of Great Britain of the Shining Path of Marxist-Leninist Mao Zedong Abimael Guzman Pete Smith Thought ... if you please

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

That's some grade A old skool 'cism."

Muslims and Marxists come in all different shades..

Let me educate you....

Ideology is not racially specific...

I know these concepts are difficult for typical subversive liberals and Marxists

...but it's very simple....

Imigration....Marxism....and Islam are not racially specific.

The converts to Islam are more likely to be terrorists actually..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

That's some grade A old skool 'cism.

Muslims and Marxists come in all different shades..

Let me educate you....

Ideology is not racially specific...

I know these concepts are difficult for typical subversive liberals and Marxists

...but it's very simple....

Imigration....Marxism....and Islam are not racially specific.

The converts to Islam are more likely to be terrorists actually.."

I don't think you're in any position to "educate" anyone.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"ahem ... The Workers and Peasants Party of Great Britain of the Shining Path of Marxist-Leninist Mao Zedong Abimael Guzman Pete Smith Thought ... if you please "

Labour party and the socialist workers party.....and a communist party!

And whatever slut walk the 3rd wave feminists are going on this week

^^^^it's all far left marxism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I don't think you're in any position to "educate" anyone."

What's that? Did I hear a little voice?

Speak louder....be more direct...

Liberals are vapid and vicarious..

A full 1 liner and a retreat to the safe space when you realize you were not born equal...

^^^some men are smarter than your silly 1 liners

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am struggling to think of a label that's so amazingly one sided in its application as "Marxist".

Y'know, clearly something that the accuser finds repugnant, but the accused just finds kind of quaint that anyone would get so worked up about it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I don't think you're in any position to "educate" anyone.

What's that? Did I hear a little voice?

Speak louder....be more direct...

Liberals are vapid and vicarious..

A full 1 liner and a retreat to the safe space when you realize you were not born equal...

^^^some men are smarter than your silly 1 liners"

I wouldn't be so sure of yourself, I mean you did try and convince me that of all 1.8 billion Muslims are just too stupid to "understand science".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I wouldn't be so sure of yourself, I mean you did try and convince me that of all 1.8 billion Muslims are just too stupid to "understand science"."

It's more than that I am afraid....

Jews and Christians also believe that the desert lunatic who believed god was telling him to kill his son...

^^^^it's all bullshit you see?

Except I can garontee non of you liberals and subverted usefull idiots will shed a tear for the Christians?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Marxists and commies? Wow?

I mean they have butchered 1 third of Cambodia and brought about the Soviet union and countless genocides...

Yet you love being called a marxist?

You love the communist manifesto just like your precious jeromy corbyn, Angeler merkle and Hillary clinton?

Joseph Stalin and pol pot are the inspiration that drives you...

The KGB and marxist media has done a very good job suubverting the British sheeple into usefull idiots...

As you welcome home 400 isis prisoners back to Britain with open arms?

Wow....

What more appeasments can we look forward too?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

And whatever slut walk the 3rd wave feminists are going on this week

"

As much as I think that modern feminism is a bit of a joke... I'd like to distance myself from the rants of an internet incensed loon.

DJ

In case my point didn't sink in last time, you are looking at the byproduct of extreme feminism... It's equal and opposite! This is the unexpected consequence to chasing diminishing returns.

Bounce bounce bounce little molecules of Internet subcults... All the hate groups... All the ideological incompatibile bubbles of brainfog in one big pot... Bouncing and bouncing and the temperature rising and rising until it boils over

Forget feminism

Forget blm

Forget the manosphere

Let it all cool down and then we can have peace love and having fun.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ah yes....

Your idols...

Like Meryl Streep, polanski and wienstine..hollywood

MSN and CNN....and your precious "guardian"....or whatever wank sheet tabloid you can understand...

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex & Bridgend


"

I wouldn't be so sure of yourself, I mean you did try and convince me that of all 1.8 billion Muslims are just too stupid to "understand science".

It's more than that I am afraid....

Jews and Christians also believe that the desert lunatic who believed god was telling him to kill his son...

^^^^it's all bullshit you see?

Except I can garontee non of you liberals and subverted usefull idiots will shed a tear for the Christians?

"

The thought of you teaching, professionally, for money, fills me with horror.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I wouldn't be so sure of yourself, I mean you did try and convince me that of all 1.8 billion Muslims are just too stupid to "understand science".

It's more than that I am afraid....

Jews and Christians also believe that the desert lunatic who believed god was telling him to kill his son...

^^^^it's all bullshit you see?

"

Not really, no.

Perhaps you should dial up the obnoxious atheist act a bit more.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ah yes....

Your idols...

Like Meryl Streep, polanski and wienstine..hollywood

MSN and CNN....and your precious "guardian"....or whatever wank sheet tabloid you can understand...

"

There's a hint of truth in what you're saying... But it's mostly insane ramblings.

Where did you import your opinions from?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

And whatever slut walk the 3rd wave feminists are going on this week

As much as I think that modern feminism is a bit of a joke... I'd like to distance myself from the rants of an internet incensed loon.

DJ

In case my point didn't sink in last time, you are looking at the byproduct of extreme feminism... It's equal and opposite! This is the unexpected consequence to chasing diminishing returns.

Bounce bounce bounce little molecules of Internet subcults... All the hate groups... All the ideological incompatibile bubbles of brainfog in one big pot... Bouncing and bouncing and the temperature rising and rising until it boils over

Forget feminism

Forget blm

Forget the manosphere

Let it all cool down and then we can have peace love and having fun. "

"Let's ignore things that make me uncomfortable!"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

@superflash

Feminism was subverted by Marxism...

Now it subverts transgender...

And homosexual issues....

You would be suprised just how much British culture has been negatively affected by foreign propoganda/religious/cultural influences

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's the left that are the kings of discomfort.

Let's not do things that yield shit consequences.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"@superflash

Feminism was subverted by Marxism...

Now it subverts transgender...

And homosexual issues....

You would be suprised just how much British culture has been negatively affected by foreign propoganda/religious/cultural influences

"

You are preaching to the choir but it seems to have also spawned nutbags like you who sound like they are only a few steps from a mass murder themselves.

Chill out

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's the left that are the kings of discomfort.

Let's not do things that yield shit consequences."

Yes. You've been rather vocal that you think things like treating women as people would lead to "shit consequences".

Less vocal about how that would pan out.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Actually I misread what you said Alladin... And don't agree with that at all.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Vapid vicarious one liners of the left really amaze me....

Perhaps it's time I got you some crayons?

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex & Bridgend


"Vapid vicarious one liners of the left really amaze me....

Perhaps it's time I got you some crayons?"

What's a vapid, vicarious one liner?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's the left that are the kings of discomfort.

Let's not do things that yield shit consequences.

Yes. You've been rather vocal that you think things like treating women as people would lead to "shit consequences".

Less vocal about how that would pan out.

"

Words in the mouth again..playing a pathetic shaming by rewording game.. Drop it

Are you really the sort of idiot who thinks that all views have to be mutually exclusive?

Women are treated like people - you want them to be treated like spoiled kids... Therein lies the difference.

Can you even for a second entertain the idea that the likes of Alladin here feeds off what feminists are saying in developing his anger at the world?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Not really, no.

Perhaps you should dial up the obnoxious atheist act a bit more.

"

I can recite verses from the quoran or you can read it yourself?

Or you can ask Salman Rushdie if you can find him....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Not really, no.

Perhaps you should dial up the obnoxious atheist act a bit more.

I can recite verses from the quoran or you can read it yourself?

Or you can ask Salman Rushdie if you can find him....

"

No, no, no.

Dial it all all the way up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm not even complaining about women in genral..

These politicly minded Marxist red wave feminist cat spinsters are a rare minority amoung females

It's less than 5% but they are all over the liberal media

If not that they are obeace spinsters on the internet complaining about men sending dick pics

^^^^other women rarely bother with them

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It's the left that are the kings of discomfort.

Let's not do things that yield shit consequences.

Yes. You've been rather vocal that you think things like treating women as people would lead to "shit consequences".

Less vocal about how that would pan out.

Words in the mouth again..playing a pathetic shaming by rewording game.. Drop it

Are you really the sort of idiot who thinks that all views have to be mutually exclusive?

Women are treated like people - you want them to be treated like spoiled kids... Therein lies the difference.

"

What was that about rewording again?

If recent events have had no impact on your misconceptions, there's very little that can help you.


"

Can you even for a second entertain the idea that the likes of Alladin here feeds off what feminists are saying in developing his anger at the world?

"

I'm certain he does.

Why ought he be coddled?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Lets not forget male sitzspinklers /white knights who also carry the 3rd wave banner in hopes of getting some aknowledgement from the opposite sex...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Could I hazard a guess that you've been reading some red pill websites?

We've all the buzzwords anyway

You are just as bad as the ugly side of feminism that you're mocking

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

^^^^it all boils down to 1 key issue...

LABOUR VOTERS

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm not even complaining about women in genral..

These politicly minded Marxist red wave feminist cat spinsters are a rare minority amoung females

It's less than 5% but they are all over the liberal media

If not that they are obeace spinsters on the internet complaining about men sending dick pics

^^^^other women rarely bother with them

"

Well, I guess if you can characterise them as old or ugly you can convinced yourself that you can ignore them.

It really does seem easier than the unsightly business of actually thinking.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

What recent events DJ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"What recent events DJ? "

http://www.cnn.com

Have a wee look at the headlines, you seem to have been under a rock of late.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was hoping you'd say that

Harvey weinstein...Maybe? That shows how you fall for the trap of conflating bad news with reality.

The news is but a cherry picked subset.

Maybe if you spoke about persistent events in Africa where women are systematically abused you'd have a point... But no you fell into the trap of showing that you just think what you read and hear.

Tell me about the plight of more Women in the West please. You can use Maslows pyramid of human needs for reference to show how bad they have it.

Meanwhile we'll let the hate fester and brew in the world (and more women will be abused in Africa...)

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well, I guess if you can characterise them as old or ugly you can convinced yourself that you can ignore them.

It really does seem easier than the unsightly business of actually thinking."

Takes someone of my calliber all of 1 second to debunk "gender pay gap" and "rape culture"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Lol he has you there John

It took me a while to debunk those I must admit, counterintuitive as they are to the zeitgeist of the day.

Alladin here worked it out on 1 second

But you'll probably never "get it"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I was hoping you'd say that

Harvey weinstein...Maybe? That shows how you fall for the trap of conflating bad news with reality.

The news is but a cherry picked subset.

Maybe if you spoke about persistent events in Africa where women are systematically abused you'd have a point... But no you fell into the trap of showing that you just think what you read and hear.

Tell me about the plight of more Women in the West please. You can use Maslows pyramid of human needs for reference to show how bad they have it.

Meanwhile we'll let the hate fester and brew in the world (and more women will be abused in Africa...) "

Peados and wierdos in Africa?

Perhaps the 3rd wavers can go spread their message of love and peace and pollyssapiozevonsexualism to boko harram?

Go teach boko harram about gender studies.

Try asking one of those lost girls where she fits into Marlowes hierachy of needs?

^^^^women in the Islamic world don't choose to be sex slaves....

Perhaps if "feminists" give a shit about women they would be more vocal about that that "fat shame" and "misgendering"

^^^^usefull idiots

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Neither of you have achieved anything.

But you certainly think you have, so I guess that's really what you were searching for.

I look forward to these one second debunkings, I'm certain they'll be just as uninspiring.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"zeitgeist "

Scientology kgb subversion?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"zeitgeist

Scientology kgb subversion?

"

German, actually.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Hint hint they aren't actually activists

They just go on twitter all day and write opinion pieces.... A bit like the lads who write the red pill shit in an equal and opposite fashion.

The lads with machetes aren't worried about any wave of feministas just yet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither of you have achieved anything.

But you certainly think you have, so I guess that's really what you were searching for.

I look forward to these one second debunkings, I'm certain they'll be just as uninspiring."

I'm guessing you are a sitzspinkler defending your right to do as you are told?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I will be sure to let the gynocracy know that a noted internet user has figured out everything and the jig is up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Neither of you have achieved anything.

But you certainly think you have, so I guess that's really what you were searching for.

I look forward to these one second debunkings, I'm certain they'll be just as uninspiring.

I'm guessing you are a sitzspinkler defending your right to do as you are told?"

Guess all you like.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"zeitgeist

German, actually."

There is a movie by the same name so I assumed you were talking about that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Nope.

So, for those joining us now, a summation

The NHS; amazing.

Feminism: also great.

Weird views on Muslims: not good

Marxist: the tamest epithet.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Marxism

Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly. (Commie manifesto)

^^^^banker always wins

Some are more equal than others....especially if they are Karl Marxes people.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Liberals are vapid and vicarious

They give very short "politicly correct" #meme responses to intellectual debate.

"That's wacist stop misgendering me and opressing my sexuality right to be a narcasist"

Then scuttle off to the safe space or tell the relivant free speech police

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The NHS

Corrupt mismanagement of public funds...

Controlled by unions and bent chef executives and lazy dumb cunts on permanent contracts who have not lifted a finger in their entire careers...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Islam

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah"

Liberals are vapid and vicarious.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Liberals are vapid and vicarious

They give very short "politicly correct" #meme responses to intellectual debate.

"That's wacist stop misgendering me and opressing my sexuality right to be a narcasist"

Then scuttle off to the safe space or tell the relivant free speech police "

I don't think anyone whose idea of a debunking is to state that "people are suffering the world over therefore shutup", has much of a standing when it comes to protesting about "intellectual debate"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


""Not enough health profesionals"

^^^^ofcourse.... this is socialism..

They are all social workers....

You need doctors...

Not some cunt asking you "how do you feel in the last 2 weeks"

^^^they are wasteing public money and the usefull idiot broad masses will never question it.

"

Social workers aren't health professionals.

Are you trying to say we don't need more nurses and physiotherapists?

Your posts are angry and incoherent.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shall we let Richard Branson run it then from the British Virgin Isles "

No.

I think it should be made more basic. Strip it down. Cut costs...

I'm happy to keep some level of socialist care but not as much influence as the NHS currently has...

They mismanage money and all the beurocracy drains cash...

Also they let immigrants come hear from Syria and Pakistan and they recieve the bennefits of expensive socialism...it's all free for new people.

^^^^I worked abroad and didn't get free healthcare...I don't get why people come hear and get money and jobs english people should be doing.

^^^British liberal minded people are very silly. The healthcare system is drained by old ladies from Pakistan.

"

You do talk out of your arse. the only people who get free healthcare who come from other countries, are those in the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Islam and Marxism are both evil ideologies and you labour voters have allowed a Trojan horse into europe.

Cologne is already fucked quite literally. That disgusting Merkel and jeromy corbyn deserve eachother.

As I watch Europe fall apart and gradually decline into the caliphate...

^^^I can thank you labour voters

High tax...no freedom.."political correctness"....welcome to Marxism..

And you have the nerve to moan about public services?

Really?

Perhaps you shouldn't be giving your money to Brussels and Syrians."

I haven't seen anyone moan about public services as much as you.

Chill ffs.

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By *oggoneMan  over a year ago

Derry


"Shall we let Richard Branson run it then from the British Virgin Isles "

No.

I think it should be made more basic. Strip it down. Cut costs...

I'm happy to keep some level of socialist care but not as much influence as the NHS currently has...

They mismanage money and all the beurocracy drains cash...

Also they let immigrants come hear from Syria and Pakistan and they recieve the bennefits of expensive socialism...it's all free for new people.

^^^^I worked abroad and didn't get free healthcare...I don't get why people come hear and get money and jobs english people should be doing.

^^^British liberal minded people are very silly. The healthcare system is drained by old ladies from Pakistan.

You do talk out of your arse. the only people who get free healthcare who come from other countries, are those in the EU."

Observationally challenged or trolling, pick one.

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By *tjohnspairCouple  over a year ago

Worcester


"Many people seem to misunderstand just what a promise is especially when it comes to politics, and seem to neglect the authority, accountability and ability of the person making said "promise".

I'm truly astounded that people actually believed that the £350m per week to the NHS was a promise, it was simply a fanciful idea that sounded good but it lacked all elements of a promise.

In next weeks news, there will be calls to finally begin harvesting cheese from the moon.

Ginger

I don’t know a single person who believed it. And I know some right numpties.

Either way there was no promise...ther was a SUGGESTION.

The actual wording was “we send £350million a week to the EU” (and we ALL knew that’s not the true figure). “ Let’s spend it on the NHS instead”..... a suggestion only. Not a promise, and the suggestion was made by someone who was not in power.

I could “suggest” we spend it on white chocolate.... it would be no more or less of a promise. No more or less likely either.

But the thing is people DID believe the suggestion....a few on here did...and it influenced there vote"

Must be some REALLY thick people about then....we never came across anyone who thought it was anything but a joke.

There are seriously people who believed it? They shouldn’t be allowed out....but actually I don’t think they are.... Probably more believed the Osbourne/Camoron propaganda leaflet...which cost tax payers £17 million.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Shall we let Richard Branson run it then from the British Virgin Isles "

No.

I think it should be made more basic. Strip it down. Cut costs...

I'm happy to keep some level of socialist care but not as much influence as the NHS currently has...

They mismanage money and all the beurocracy drains cash...

Also they let immigrants come hear from Syria and Pakistan and they recieve the bennefits of expensive socialism...it's all free for new people.

^^^^I worked abroad and didn't get free healthcare...I don't get why people come hear and get money and jobs english people should be doing.

^^^British liberal minded people are very silly. The healthcare system is drained by old ladies from Pakistan.

You do talk out of your arse. the only people who get free healthcare who come from other countries, are those in the EU.

Observationally challenged or trolling, pick one."

Just an angry little nobody who hates everybody. Poor sod.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Anymore caped vicarious liberal 1 liners?

For the brod marxist masses have no concept of an objective reality behind what the liberal media feeds them.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When the system pays usless agents of the state to sit arround in offices on Facebook instead of getting more doctors?

...you just drain the health service like parasites...

The broad Marxist labour voting massive have no strong opinions of their own...

Oh no...

It's just vapid vicarious 1 liners and snark...

Iq level 100

You should not be voteing or deciding what happens

Your decisions are all influenced by the media...

You have no objective reality other than the one you are supposed to have....

Sheeple....barrrrrr

Oink

The broad masses are not capable of governing themselves...

They get manipulated easily by Marxism through the media.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent


"Liberals are vapid and vicarious

They give very short "politicly correct" #meme responses to intellectual debate.

"That's wacist stop misgendering me and opressing my sexuality right to be a narcasist"

Then scuttle off to the safe space or tell the relivant free speech police "

#justsayno

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

They get manipulated easily by Marxism through the media."

I feel your pain, man. I can't pick up a copy of the left wing hippy Sun, Express, Mail, Telegraph or Times without them trying to make me into a Marxist. It's just awful and definitely not a completely made up idea.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Corbynites

They need money for the NHS...

I know that the tax payer is being decieved...

The NHS misspend money

And no matter how much money goes into it the returns are quite small...

Ofcourse most healthcare staff are low iq and qualifications bitter that doctors don't have time to speak to them...

That's because the NHS is full of admin staff and usless shits

^^^^and you can never see an actual doctor who has studied what is wrong with you...

It's fluff healthcare...it's mostly a political stunt....appointments with real doctors can take weeks...months...years...

^^^go complain to your gp?

It's all you can do 18 months later when you have not yet been referred to a specialist...

^^^^it's worse than 3rd world...

Dispite huge ammounts of national insurance...

Your silly left wing political stunt fails...

It's not suficient healthcare...

You are happy to ignore it untill you need it....then you can't depend on it...

It's the bare minimum. The biggest cut of national insurance will go to immigrants and public service "workers"....who never studied medicine...

^^^^just usless left wing stones fighting for their own paycheck instead of what's best for the genral public...

Greedy Marxist admin workers...

^^^they can't prescribe medicine or do opporations...

Only 50% of that workforce is remotely productive...

The rest are on Facebook drinking tea because they have "permanent contracts" and don't work very hard...

^^^my local hospitals were scrapped under Labour government...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The Labour party also takes out huge debts from the central banks to appease the masses.

^^^that causes debts...

So there is a cycle of labour being voted out and conservatives having to come in and clean up the books.

Rothschilds love the Marxists "usefull idiots"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Corbynites

They need money for the NHS...

I know that the tax payer is being decieved...

The NHS misspend money

And no matter how much money goes into it the returns are quite small...

Ofcourse most healthcare staff are low iq and qualifications bitter that doctors don't have time to speak to them...

That's because the NHS is full of admin staff and usless shits

^^^^and you can never see an actual doctor who has studied what is wrong with you...

It's fluff healthcare...it's mostly a political stunt....appointments with real doctors can take weeks...months...years...

^^^go complain to your gp?

It's all you can do 18 months later when you have not yet been referred to a specialist...

^^^^it's worse than 3rd world...

Dispite huge ammounts of national insurance...

Your silly left wing political stunt fails...

It's not suficient healthcare...

You are happy to ignore it untill you need it....then you can't depend on it...

It's the bare minimum. The biggest cut of national insurance will go to immigrants and public service "workers"....who never studied medicine...

^^^^just usless left wing stones fighting for their own paycheck instead of what's best for the genral public...

Greedy Marxist admin workers...

^^^they can't prescribe medicine or do opporations...

Only 50% of that workforce is remotely productive...

The rest are on Facebook drinking tea because they have "permanent contracts" and don't work very hard...

^^^my local hospitals were scrapped under Labour government...

"

Have you considered checking your arse for sticks as you seem really quite angry

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Anger is good.

It's a positive energy.

Better to be angry than subservient to the media.

It's unusual for liberals to be angry over politics...

They enjoy complying and being "politicly correct"

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent


"Anger is good.

It's a positive energy.

Better to be angry than subservient to the media.

It's unusual for liberals to be angry over politics...

They enjoy complying and being "politicly correct"

"

#heroinscrewsyouup

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Anger is good.

It's a positive energy.

Better to be angry than subservient to the media.

It's unusual for liberals to be angry over politics...

They enjoy complying and being "politicly correct"

"

..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"#heroinscrewsyouup "

So does cocaine...

^^^doesn't stop you lot using it "liberally"...so you can be even more stupid and mentally fucked...

The dummied down broad masses gathered arround discussing philosphy at 4am in a state of panic attack...

^^^no thanks!

You can shove your addictions up your arse where they bellong.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Liberals draining NHS services because they do too many drugs and feel depressed and suicidal...

^^^people have genuine illness yet abulances are wasting precious time dealing with alcohol and cocaine addled broad masses.

^^^all because of liberal/marxist tolerances and acceptance of crime and disorder...

Break down your own society why don't you?

The KGB and isis must be suprised how easy it is to subvert the British chattering cosmopolitain classes.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"The Labour party also takes out huge debts from the central banks to appease the masses.

^^^that causes debts...

So there is a cycle of labour being voted out and conservatives having to come in and clean up the books.

Rothschilds love the Marxists "usefull idiots""

I dont know if you have even seen the figures....but the Tories have borrowed a lot more and are running a higher deficit than ever Labour have ever done

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I dont know if you have even seen the figures....but the Tories have borrowed a lot more and are running a higher deficit than ever Labour have ever done "

When you have a choice between 2 evils you pick the lesser evil I suppose...

Corbyn doesn't like NATO or trident...fancy just bending over and spreading your cheeks to Vladimir Putin?

He wants to do everything he can to reverse brexit..

And he loves the Islamics...

It's not an easy decision to vote tory...but when the other choice is Marxism and 1984 opression it sways me toward conservative...

It's not my fault there is worthless proportional representation in the system...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you keep loads of cats and you attack the male gender constantly...

^^^then it's anouther point I have debunked within 1 second...

Labour is a party of sitzspinklers and spinsters...

Labour party are all toxic 3rd wave feminist appeasers.

^^^^Marxism supports ANY cause of the proliteriate....even if it is stupid and hysterical smearing itself in menstral blood.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I dont know if you have even seen the figures....but the Tories have borrowed a lot more and are running a higher deficit than ever Labour have ever done

When you have a choice between 2 evils you pick the lesser evil I suppose...

Corbyn doesn't like NATO or trident...fancy just bending over and spreading your cheeks to Vladimir Putin?

He wants to do everything he can to reverse brexit..

And he loves the Islamics...

It's not an easy decision to vote tory...but when the other choice is Marxism and 1984 opression it sways me toward conservative...

It's not my fault there is worthless proportional representation in the system...

"

But your no better....your making false statements without knowing any facts...i just hope your not teaching our children

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

They get manipulated easily by Marxism through the media.

I feel your pain, man. I can't pick up a copy of the left wing hippy Sun, Express, Mail, Telegraph or Times without them trying to make me into a Marxist. It's just awful and definitely not a completely made up idea. "

I wonder if you are humble enough to see my point now stove?

All these ideologically opposed Internet subgroups are spawning the likes of this.

I'm still asking if diminishing returns on the equality front are worth creating a rift in society?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"But your no better....your making false statements without knowing any facts...i just hope your not teaching our children "

I know that Tony Blair and gordon brown are responsible for the recession the tories inherited.

I wouldn't want to teach children in England....are you mad?

Everyone wins and everyone is gender neutral

I'm more intrested in teaching Asians because they are the future....

All these stupid little bastards in the British system are not worth my time...

Teach an Asian kid to grow up and become a doctor...or teach in a state school in England so the kid from a dysfunctional snowflake background can study "gender studies" or "drama"

^^^^go shove your usless kids and politicly correct marxist education system...^^^^

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It's funny...

I feel sorry for teachers in England.

I have worked in British schools but not with teaching...

They cannot manage the classrooms...they work long long horrible hours and take abuse from parents and children all day long^^^

Your bastards have grown up into a toxic left wing system...

They learn to break rules and bully eachother...

They are also subjected to alot of "politicly correct" history.

^^^no thanks!

Asian children and parents are not fucking usless like the modern day English...

They grow up to make cars, iPhones and robots...

^^^your children will be lucky to get jobs in the service industry!

They are a waste of my time and the job and hours are pityfull..

No future for your kids in this country...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"But your no better....your making false statements without knowing any facts...i just hope your not teaching our children

I know that Tony Blair and gordon brown are responsible for the recession the tories inherited.

I wouldn't want to teach children in England....are you mad?

Everyone wins and everyone is gender neutral

I'm more intrested in teaching Asians because they are the future....

All these stupid little bastards in the British system are not worth my time...

Teach an Asian kid to grow up and become a doctor...or teach in a state school in England so the kid from a dysfunctional snowflake background can study "gender studies" or "drama"

^^^^go shove your usless kids and politicly correct marxist education system...^^^^

"

You my friend are very deluded and should be seeking help

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"You my friend are very deluded and should be seeking help "

Well the NHS are not very good at that are they?

Seems people in that horrible situation are just thrown asside onto disability bennefits because there are not enough doctors to deal with them...

^^^socialism...

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"You my friend are very deluded and should be seeking help

Well the NHS are not very good at that are they?

Seems people in that horrible situation are just thrown asside onto disability bennefits because there are not enough doctors to deal with them...

^^^socialism...

"

Dont know if you have noticed...but there been a right wing tory government in for the last few years or so

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Mental healthcare is a big problem in this country...

All the Labour voters are narcasists and they cannot be cured.

But I feel bad for the schizophrenics and bipolar etc...they can't help the illness they have but with better healthcare (like they get in some countrys)...they would get faster appointments with specialist doctors who can help them...

You labour voters and admin workers just have personality disorders or drug issues.

Your depressions/anxiety are mainly self inflicted and easy to manage if you had half a brain cell to control your own cognition.

^^^your pointless wastes of time

meanwhile schizophrenics are left going loony in town centres on spice...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Dont know if you have noticed...but there been a right wing tory government in for the last few years or so "

Tory are "centre right" bordering liberal...

For myself it's just a strategic vote for a lesser evil...

Because most people in this country are not politicly minded and they have been totally kalergified and islamofied with alot of marxism and kgb media subversion...

There isn't a popular nationalist party...

^^^only racists...the lower and of the barrel when it comes to philosophical debate.

Liberal racists are much more covert with their racism. They manipulate the minorities.

...I don't like racism.

I value a person on what they believe...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The Labour party also takes out huge debts from the central banks to appease the masses.

^^^that causes debts...

So there is a cycle of labour being voted out and conservatives having to come in and clean up the books.

Rothschilds love the Marxists "usefull idiots""

What is THIS government doing for the NHS?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Liberals draining NHS services because they do too many drugs and feel depressed and suicidal...

^^^people have genuine illness yet abulances are wasting precious time dealing with alcohol and cocaine addled broad masses.

^^^all because of liberal/marxist tolerances and acceptance of crime and disorder...

Break down your own society why don't you?

The KGB and isis must be suprised how easy it is to subvert the British chattering cosmopolitain classes.

"

Bless your little cotton socks you really don't have a clue. I have been out with the paramedics and did not experience one example of what you've stated.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"If you keep loads of cats and you attack the male gender constantly...

^^^then it's anouther point I have debunked within 1 second...

Labour is a party of sitzspinklers and spinsters...

Labour party are all toxic 3rd wave feminist appeasers.

^^^^Marxism supports ANY cause of the proliteriate....even if it is stupid and hysterical smearing itself in menstral blood."

The NHS does indeed need to fund better mental health care

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Mental healthcare is a big problem in this country...

All the Labour voters are narcasists and they cannot be cured.

But I feel bad for the schizophrenics and bipolar etc...they can't help the illness they have but with better healthcare (like they get in some countrys)...they would get faster appointments with specialist doctors who can help them...

You labour voters and admin workers just have personality disorders or drug issues.

Your depressions/anxiety are mainly self inflicted and easy to manage if you had half a brain cell to control your own cognition.

^^^your pointless wastes of time

meanwhile schizophrenics are left going loony in town centres on spice...

"

A great understanding of neurotransmitters you have there sunshine

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

...I don't like racism.

I value a person on what they believe...

"

I laughed so hard i started choking.

A total contradiction of previous posts.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

...I don't like racism.

I value a person on what they believe...

I laughed so hard i started choking.

A total contradiction of previous posts.

"

I know the hypocrisy lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Bless your little cotton socks you really don't have a clue. I have been out with the paramedics and did not experience one example of what you've stated.

"

So I guess this country has no issues with d*unks and drug addicts wasteing ambulance time?

You need a reality check...your 1 day doesn't explain the shit paramedics deal with every weekend.

^^^^stupid cunts...

Meanwhile old people are having heart attacks and falling down stairs...

Being driven on longer journeys to Oldham because birch hill and Rochdale infirmary were closed by the Labour party.

Rochdale town centre is full of pakistanies and repribates who have been failed by the education system...

Jermomy Kyle and the prison are the only people who really care about helping them be normal.

And the justice system is totally rotten!

Johnny in and outs who could be cured with 1 long sentence and rehabilitarltion.

^^^^I've worked about a year of my life in NHS catering and admin...

^^^I've observed all manner of shit going on in hospitals...

Perhaps I should shut my mouth?

Wouldn't want the bolshervics who are likely to be a future employer knowing that I have this knowledge...

Since my next of kinns work in the health service in top jobs it shouldn't matter?

I've worked for the nhs before....everyone in those institutions are related

How do you think I got jobs with the admin/catering?

It's not what you know it's who you know in socialist systems...

Some are more equal than others^^^

Especially if a Labour socialist give you a contract for the rest of your life no matter how low in productivity you actually are?

Oh the joys of socialism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

The NHS does indeed need to fund better mental health care "

So why are you arguing and conflating?

Filabusting what I have to say with vicarious and vapid liberal 1 liners?

Was funny to make fun of the mentally ill...

Untill I told you they are just left to rot.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

What is THIS government doing for the NHS?"

I want them to get less money and more cost effective care...

Give it to people who need it rather than lazy admin staff, business partners of the chief executive and Syrians.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"

They get manipulated easily by Marxism through the media.

I feel your pain, man. I can't pick up a copy of the left wing hippy Sun, Express, Mail, Telegraph or Times without them trying to make me into a Marxist. It's just awful and definitely not a completely made up idea.

I wonder if you are humble enough to see my point now stove?

All these ideologically opposed Internet subgroups are spawning the likes of this.

I'm still asking if diminishing returns on the equality front are worth creating a rift in society? "

We as people shouldn't avoid doing the right thing for fear of upsetting overly angry people like our antiMarxist friend here.

And your entire schtick on here is to ask people with different concerns than you to be quiet. You don't think telling people they're wrong to feel discriminated against can also foster anger and resentment?

Doing nothing is not without its own consequences. 'Be quiet and put up with it' is not a neutral position.

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex & Bridgend


"It's funny...

I feel sorry for teachers in England.

I have worked in British schools but not with teaching...

They cannot manage the classrooms...they work long long horrible hours and take abuse from parents and children all day long^^^

Your bastards have grown up into a toxic left wing system...

They learn to break rules and bully eachother...

They are also subjected to alot of "politicly correct" history.

^^^no thanks!

Asian children and parents are not fucking usless like the modern day English...

They grow up to make cars, iPhones and robots...

^^^your children will be lucky to get jobs in the service industry!

They are a waste of my time and the job and hours are pityfull..

No future for your kids in this country..."

With your utterly scummy views, you shouldnt be allowed within a mile of any school.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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Bless your little cotton socks you really don't have a clue. I have been out with the paramedics and did not experience one example of what you've stated.

So I guess this country has no issues with d*unks and drug addicts wasteing ambulance time?

You need a reality check...your 1 day doesn't explain the shit paramedics deal with every weekend. "

You need a reality check! The police are more likely to bring in d*unks and addicts to A&E. The paramedics deal with those who play the system and those who are genuine.


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Being driven on longer journeys to Oldham because birch hill and Rochdale infirmary were closed by the Labour party. "

Both historically and presently the Tory govt has and is shutting down healthcare provisions.


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^^^^I've worked about a year of my life in NHS catering and admin...

^^^I've observed all manner of shit going on in hospitals...

Perhaps I should shut my mouth?

Since my next of kinns work in the health service in top jobs it shouldn't matter?

I've worked for the nhs before....everyone in those institutions are related

How do you think I got jobs with the admin/catering?

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You've worked a year in the NHS and know it all. Rightio. Funny i have no relatives in the NHS but my 19 year front row seat serves me well.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

"The right thing"

As long as it concerns the opinions of white skinned liberal Marxists and not the opinion of the minority.

What happens if the black man doesn't agree with you? What do you do in that situation?

https://youtu.be/T3PaqxblOx0

I find these minorities you speak for and tokenise as white liberals...

They are more likely to be conservatives.

^^^you can't fool everyone.

Malcome x Morgan Freeman...

You do it with the gays....

Blair white, milo

You tokenise alot of minorities with your Marxist labour propoganda...

Trouble is conservative opinion isn't race/gender/sexuality specific...

^^^liberal politics is all about opressing and opression points.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Go roam around Africa asif you are bono or gildolf himself...

^^^^but then endorse the European union... (because you wouldn't trust food made by blacks)

^^^^(from an earlier remark further up the page)

Your such racist fucking hypocrites...

You know conservative blacks do have a voice?

Not every minority is a token marxist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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The NHS does indeed need to fund better mental health care

So why are you arguing and conflating?

Filabusting what I have to say with vicarious and vapid liberal 1 liners?

Was funny to make fun of the mentally ill...

Untill I told you they are just left to rot.

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You have nothing worthwhile to say. I cannot debate with the musings of someone so totally deluded. As for the mentally ill, they have my empathy. Psychology and Psychiatry are young sciences compared to medicine, and much has yet to be discovered. Patients do fall through the net sadly but they are not left to rot generically like in the days of Victorian asylums.

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