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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought  |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought "
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought "
No they haven't. The figures change every week, and they certainly haven't given us a break down of what its for.
Google : eu bill for uk latest figure. Ill tell you now, none of the figures i just read are nowhere even near each other.
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought "
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt |
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt"
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...  |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought "
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed? |
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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago
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What is the figure here, there have been several banded about, but what is the figure?
Can anyone answer this, does the Eu know the figure? Or is it all a load of 'let's come up with a figure over a few pints at lunch' figure! The whole process is farcical on both sides. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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The U.K. simply has to agree to honour the financial commitments that it made as an EU Member. Unfortunately, those commitments go beyond March 2019 because they include MEP pensions, loans to other countries and long term aid programmes. Rightly or wrongly, the EU believes that the U.K. should fund the obligations that it was instrumental in putting into place. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The U.K. simply has to agree to honour the financial commitments that it made as an EU Member. Unfortunately, those commitments go beyond March 2019 because they include MEP pensions, loans to other countries and long term aid programmes. Rightly or wrongly, the EU believes that the U.K. should fund the obligations that it was instrumental in putting into place."
Whether or not we pay anything past 2019 is merely a moral issue and not a legal one.
Nowhere in the subsections of article 50 of the lisbon treaty does it say anything about paying more once a country has left.
What the eu are doing is effectively trying to carry on milking a cow after the cow has died.
Just shows what they were and only still are intrested in, they couldn't give a monkeys about the people of this country. |
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"The U.K. simply has to agree to honour the financial commitments that it made as an EU Member. Unfortunately, those commitments go beyond March 2019 because they include MEP pensions, loans to other countries and long term aid programmes. Rightly or wrongly, the EU believes that the U.K. should fund the obligations that it was instrumental in putting into place.
Whether or not we pay anything past 2019 is merely a moral issue and not a legal one.
Nowhere in the subsections of article 50 of the lisbon treaty does it say anything about paying more once a country has left.
What the eu are doing is effectively trying to carry on milking a cow after the cow has died.
Just shows what they were and only still are intrested in, they couldn't give a monkeys about the people of this country."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view? "
Yeh, were all shitting bricks,
stuff the E.U. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like... "
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that! |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that! "
Hahah... yeah, you beat me to it.
The EU is made up of elected MEPs. We elect our MEPs. The fact we elect muppets like Farage who don't turn up is no-ones fault but our own.
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that!
Hahah... yeah, you beat me to it.
The EU is made up of elected MEPs. We elect our MEPs. The fact we elect muppets like Farage who don't turn up is no-ones fault but our own.
-Matt"
spot on Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that!
Hahah... yeah, you beat me to it.
The EU is made up of elected MEPs. We elect our MEPs. The fact we elect muppets like Farage who don't turn up is no-ones fault but our own.
-Matt"
Spot on Matt...maybe there the same muppets that fell for Mays strong and stable slants  |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?"
So 10 hours later and still I answer? How surprising! |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?"
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that! "
Can you please refer me back to the date was when we were ACTUALLY asked whether or not we wanted mep's, eu courts, eu parliaments eu laws etc etc?
If we'd voted for it in the first place then you may of had a point.
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view?
Yeh, were all shitting bricks,
stuff the E.U.
I think most people really couldn't care less about the EU, if fact a poll by the ONS (office for national statistics) concluded yesterday that the UK is now a much more happier place since the leave vote in the EU referendum last year. The study showed that Life satisfaction and happiness levels in the UK are now at their highest since the year 2011 and this was with a full years worth of data since the Leave vote happened. I'm certainly happier now safe in the knowledge that we are leaving the wretched EU.  "
Was that the telegraph pole or Totan pole sounds like it to me
Mind you we all no how the polls have been right for the last two years fucking useless |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that!
Can you please refer me back to the date was when we were ACTUALLY asked whether or not we wanted mep's, eu courts, eu parliaments eu laws etc etc?
If we'd voted for it in the first place then you may of had a point.
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I will if you tell me when we were ACTUALLLY asked if we wanted MPs, County councils, borough councils, parish councils, etc. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that!
Can you please refer me back to the date was when we were ACTUALLY asked whether or not we wanted mep's, eu courts, eu parliaments eu laws etc etc?
If we'd voted for it in the first place then you may of had a point.
I will if you tell me when we were ACTUALLLY asked if we wanted MPs, County councils, borough councils, parish councils, etc. "
30th of April -7th of july 1708
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that!
Can you please refer me back to the date was when we were ACTUALLY asked whether or not we wanted mep's, eu courts, eu parliaments eu laws etc etc?
If we'd voted for it in the first place then you may of had a point.
I will if you tell me when we were ACTUALLLY asked if we wanted MPs, County councils, borough councils, parish councils, etc.
30th of April -7th of july 1708
Your turn.. "
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that!
Can you please refer me back to the date was when we were ACTUALLY asked whether or not we wanted mep's, eu courts, eu parliaments eu laws etc etc?
If we'd voted for it in the first place then you may of had a point.
I will if you tell me when we were ACTUALLLY asked if we wanted MPs, County councils, borough councils, parish councils, etc.
30th of April -7th of july 1708
Your turn..
What was the turn out for and against? How many women voted?"
By the way, that was a general election, not a referendum to ask if we wanted a parliament. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that!
Can you please refer me back to the date was when we were ACTUALLY asked whether or not we wanted mep's, eu courts, eu parliaments eu laws etc etc?
If we'd voted for it in the first place then you may of had a point.
I will if you tell me when we were ACTUALLLY asked if we wanted MPs, County councils, borough councils, parish councils, etc.
30th of April -7th of july 1708
Your turn..
What was the turn out for and against? How many women voted?"
Dunno i wasn't there, you asked for a date and i gave you one.
Still waiting for the date we voted to accept an eu parliament however.
Even though I already know there wasn't one.
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that!
Can you please refer me back to the date was when we were ACTUALLY asked whether or not we wanted mep's, eu courts, eu parliaments eu laws etc etc?
If we'd voted for it in the first place then you may of had a point.
I will if you tell me when we were ACTUALLLY asked if we wanted MPs, County councils, borough councils, parish councils, etc.
30th of April -7th of july 1708
Your turn..
What was the turn out for and against? How many women voted?
Dunno i wasn't there, you asked for a date and i gave you one.
Still waiting for the date we voted to accept an eu parliament however.
Even though I already know there wasn't one.
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No, you gave the dates of a general election period. The question was when were we asked if we wanted MPs, county councils, borough councils and parish councils? The answer is never. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view?
Yeh, were all shitting bricks,
stuff the E.U.
I think most people really couldn't care less about the EU, if fact a poll by the ONS (office for national statistics) concluded yesterday that the UK is now a much more happier place since the leave vote in the EU referendum last year. The study showed that Life satisfaction and happiness levels in the UK are now at their highest since the year 2011 and this was with a full years worth of data since the Leave vote happened. I'm certainly happier now safe in the knowledge that we are leaving the wretched EU. "
Much happier? Geeez, you really like to put spin on things don't you?
The mean happiness increase has gone from 7.46 to 7.52, an increase of 0.8%. I'm not sure about you, but I certainly don't call that 'much' of anything.
In the words of the statto that published them:
"Today's figures, the first to be based on a full year of data since the EU referendum, show small increases in how people in the UK rate their life satisfaction, happiness and feelings that the things they do in life are worthwhile. The improvements were driven by England - the only country where quality of life ratings got better over the last year."
Matthew Steel – Office for National Statistics
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view?
Yeh, were all shitting bricks,
stuff the E.U.
I think most people really couldn't care less about the EU, if fact a poll by the ONS (office for national statistics) concluded yesterday that the UK is now a much more happier place since the leave vote in the EU referendum last year. The study showed that Life satisfaction and happiness levels in the UK are now at their highest since the year 2011 and this was with a full years worth of data since the Leave vote happened. I'm certainly happier now safe in the knowledge that we are leaving the wretched EU. "
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view?
Yeh, were all shitting bricks,
stuff the E.U.
I think most people really couldn't care less about the EU, if fact a poll by the ONS (office for national statistics) concluded yesterday that the UK is now a much more happier place since the leave vote in the EU referendum last year. The study showed that Life satisfaction and happiness levels in the UK are now at their highest since the year 2011 and this was with a full years worth of data since the Leave vote happened. I'm certainly happier now safe in the knowledge that we are leaving the wretched EU.
Much happier? Geeez, you really like to put spin on things don't you?
The mean happiness increase has gone from 7.46 to 7.52, an increase of 0.8%. I'm not sure about you, but I certainly don't call that 'much' of anything.
In the words of the statto that published them:
"Today's figures, the first to be based on a full year of data since the EU referendum, show small increases in how people in the UK rate their life satisfaction, happiness and feelings that the things they do in life are worthwhile. The improvements were driven by England - the only country where quality of life ratings got better over the last year."
Matthew Steel – Office for National Statistics
-Matt"
Thanks for confirming that people are now much happier since we voted to Leave the EU. |
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
I guess you are not British, or you’d know that criticising our government is pretty much our national sport. Just turn on any TV or pick up any paper. Holding government to account is also a pretty key part of an effective democracy. Alas there are those that think a loud vocal minority yelling ‘smile and get on with it’ is what democracy means.
-Matt
Totally agree matt,
However the best way to show the government that you dont like what they are doing is by using your vote once every 5 years to remove them.
Can you please explain how we remove people in Brussels who have ultimate control over our courts and some laws etc, seeing as you are so clued up on democracy like...
You mean, if only there were some kind of democratic process in the EU? Like maybe they could have some kind of forum that all the citizens of the EU could send representatives to? We could even call it a European Parliament, and the representatives we send could be called Members of the European Parliament, or MEP for short? What a brilliant idea! The EU should totally do that!
Can you please refer me back to the date was when we were ACTUALLY asked whether or not we wanted mep's, eu courts, eu parliaments eu laws etc etc?
If we'd voted for it in the first place then you may of had a point.
I will if you tell me when we were ACTUALLLY asked if we wanted MPs, County councils, borough councils, parish councils, etc.
30th of April -7th of july 1708
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view?
Yeh, were all shitting bricks,
stuff the E.U.
I think most people really couldn't care less about the EU, if fact a poll by the ONS (office for national statistics) concluded yesterday that the UK is now a much more happier place since the leave vote in the EU referendum last year. The study showed that Life satisfaction and happiness levels in the UK are now at their highest since the year 2011 and this was with a full years worth of data since the Leave vote happened. I'm certainly happier now safe in the knowledge that we are leaving the wretched EU.
Much happier? Geeez, you really like to put spin on things don't you?
The mean happiness increase has gone from 7.46 to 7.52, an increase of 0.8%. I'm not sure about you, but I certainly don't call that 'much' of anything.
In the words of the statto that published them:
"Today's figures, the first to be based on a full year of data since the EU referendum, show small increases in how people in the UK rate their life satisfaction, happiness and feelings that the things they do in life are worthwhile. The improvements were driven by England - the only country where quality of life ratings got better over the last year."
Matthew Steel – Office for National Statistics
-Matt
Thanks for confirming that people are now much happier since we voted to Leave the EU. "
People were happier in 2013 than they were in 2012. How do you explain that? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view?
Yeh, were all shitting bricks,
stuff the E.U.
I think most people really couldn't care less about the EU, if fact a poll by the ONS (office for national statistics) concluded yesterday that the UK is now a much more happier place since the leave vote in the EU referendum last year. The study showed that Life satisfaction and happiness levels in the UK are now at their highest since the year 2011 and this was with a full years worth of data since the Leave vote happened. I'm certainly happier now safe in the knowledge that we are leaving the wretched EU.
Much happier? Geeez, you really like to put spin on things don't you?
The mean happiness increase has gone from 7.46 to 7.52, an increase of 0.8%. I'm not sure about you, but I certainly don't call that 'much' of anything.
In the words of the statto that published them:
"Today's figures, the first to be based on a full year of data since the EU referendum, show small increases in how people in the UK rate their life satisfaction, happiness and feelings that the things they do in life are worthwhile. The improvements were driven by England - the only country where quality of life ratings got better over the last year."
Matthew Steel – Office for National Statistics
-Matt
Thanks for confirming that people are now much happier since we voted to Leave the EU. "
Now I remember why I stopped bothering to come in the politics forum.
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought "
Could you perhaps give us a figure then? I’ve certainly not seen any definite figures. Could you enlighten us...give us a link to the breakdown? |
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The mean happiness increase has gone from 7.46 to 7.52, an increase of 0.8%. I'm not sure about you, but I certainly don't call that 'much' of anything.
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If you are going to quote stats...could you also check your maths?
A 0.8 increase on a starting figure of 7.46 is 10.72%. That’s a significant increase! |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
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So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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I saw an interview the other week with a Finnish politician, who basically said that Germany and France are pushing to get the maximum settlement possible.
Not surprising, as they will shoulder the majority of the shortfall when the UK leaves. |
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The mean happiness increase has gone from 7.46 to 7.52, an increase of 0.8%. I'm not sure about you, but I certainly don't call that 'much' of anything.
If you are going to quote stats...could you also check your maths?
A 0.8 increase on a starting figure of 7.46 is 10.72%. That’s a significant increase!"
Hmmm well my maths tells me
The diff between 7.46 and 7.52 is 0.06
0.06 as a percentage of 7.46 is 0.8 percent increase
Which is NOT even statistically significant let alone a significant increase and only a manipulative brass balled deluded liar could promote or spin such an NON significant change as
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
Wow, no facts there at all then."
So you are taking the position that the UK doesn't know how much it has pledged to the EU and doesn't know what it's liabilities are? That's not fiscally responsible. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
Wow, no facts there at all then.
So you are taking the position that the UK doesn't know how much it has pledged to the EU and doesn't know what it's liabilities are? That's not fiscally responsible. "
No, I'm taking the view that you're quoting a source as fact, when it's clearly not.
And I find it ironic that you're saying that the UK us fiscally irresponsible, without commenting on the fiscal irresponsibility of the EU. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
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The mean happiness increase has gone from 7.46 to 7.52, an increase of 0.8%. I'm not sure about you, but I certainly don't call that 'much' of anything.
If you are going to quote stats...could you also check your maths?
A 0.8 increase on a starting figure of 7.46 is 10.72%. That’s a significant increase!"
Go back to school. No wonder we are in this shit.
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The mean happiness increase has gone from 7.46 to 7.52, an increase of 0.8%. I'm not sure about you, but I certainly don't call that 'much' of anything.
If you are going to quote stats...could you also check your maths?
A 0.8 increase on a starting figure of 7.46 is 10.72%. That’s a significant increase!"
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
Wow, no facts there at all then.
So you are taking the position that the UK doesn't know how much it has pledged to the EU and doesn't know what it's liabilities are? That's not fiscally responsible.
No, I'm taking the view that you're quoting a source as fact, when it's clearly not.
And I find it ironic that you're saying that the UK us fiscally irresponsible, without commenting on the fiscal irresponsibility of the EU."
Well there are 2 options. The UK government knows its liabilities, or it doesnt. Which one is it? |
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If you are going to quote stats...could you also check your maths?
A 0.8 increase on a starting figure of 7.46 is 10.72%. That’s a significant increase!"
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
Wow, no facts there at all then.
So you are taking the position that the UK doesn't know how much it has pledged to the EU and doesn't know what it's liabilities are? That's not fiscally responsible.
No, I'm taking the view that you're quoting a source as fact, when it's clearly not.
And I find it ironic that you're saying that the UK us fiscally irresponsible, without commenting on the fiscal irresponsibility of the EU.
Well there are 2 options. The UK government knows its liabilities, or it doesnt. Which one is it? "
The EU knows what the figure is, or it doesn't which one is it? |
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By *oubepoMan
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
Wow, no facts there at all then.
So you are taking the position that the UK doesn't know how much it has pledged to the EU and doesn't know what it's liabilities are? That's not fiscally responsible.
No, I'm taking the view that you're quoting a source as fact, when it's clearly not.
And I find it ironic that you're saying that the UK us fiscally irresponsible, without commenting on the fiscal irresponsibility of the EU.
Well there are 2 options. The UK government knows its liabilities, or it doesnt. Which one is it?
The EU knows what the figure is, or it doesn't which one is it?"
I honestly don't think there is a figure
The EU resents the fact that you are leaving and wants to get as many kilos of flesh as it can, irrespective if you owe it or not
The UK want to appear they are trying to negotiate - but in all probability will leave without a deal being struck
It will then be a case of picking your winners and losers.
From a citizen of the EU, I would say the UK probably has the capacity and manoeuvrability to make a better recovery than the EU - certainly in the medium/long term
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
Wow, no facts there at all then.
So you are taking the position that the UK doesn't know how much it has pledged to the EU and doesn't know what it's liabilities are? That's not fiscally responsible.
No, I'm taking the view that you're quoting a source as fact, when it's clearly not.
And I find it ironic that you're saying that the UK us fiscally irresponsible, without commenting on the fiscal irresponsibility of the EU.
Well there are 2 options. The UK government knows its liabilities, or it doesnt. Which one is it?
The EU knows what the figure is, or it doesn't which one is it?"
I'm pretty sure they do. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
Wow, no facts there at all then.
So you are taking the position that the UK doesn't know how much it has pledged to the EU and doesn't know what it's liabilities are? That's not fiscally responsible.
No, I'm taking the view that you're quoting a source as fact, when it's clearly not.
And I find it ironic that you're saying that the UK us fiscally irresponsible, without commenting on the fiscal irresponsibility of the EU.
Well there are 2 options. The UK government knows its liabilities, or it doesnt. Which one is it?
The EU knows what the figure is, or it doesn't which one is it?
I honestly don't think there is a figure
The EU resents the fact that you are leaving and wants to get as many kilos of flesh as it can, irrespective if you owe it or not
The UK want to appear they are trying to negotiate - but in all probability will leave without a deal being struck
It will then be a case of picking your winners and losers.
From a citizen of the EU, I would say the UK probably has the capacity and manoeuvrability to make a better recovery than the EU - certainly in the medium/long term
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So the UK could easily publish the figure and show what a greedy bunch the EU is. But they haven't. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
Wow, no facts there at all then.
So you are taking the position that the UK doesn't know how much it has pledged to the EU and doesn't know what it's liabilities are? That's not fiscally responsible.
No, I'm taking the view that you're quoting a source as fact, when it's clearly not.
And I find it ironic that you're saying that the UK us fiscally irresponsible, without commenting on the fiscal irresponsibility of the EU.
Well there are 2 options. The UK government knows its liabilities, or it doesnt. Which one is it?
The EU knows what the figure is, or it doesn't which one is it?
I'm pretty sure they do."
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"How do you 'pay the bill' if they wont tell you how much it is or list the items that you have supposedly purchased?
Why oh why is all we hear that its the uks fault on negotiations when the eu are clearly as bad if not worse?
What ever happened to being positive? Constant brexit bashing isn't going to change the result, so maybe its time we all got behind the uk...
Just a thought
They have told us how much it is. Try reading a paper.
Just a thought
How much us it then? What source are you using? I thought the papers weren't to be believed?
https://www.ft.com/content/29fc1abc-2fe0-11e7-9555-23ef563ecf9a
I think this is the best breakdown of the figure. It shows both what the EU owes to the UK, as well as what the UK owes to the EU.
So, it's not actually an EU figure, it's what the FT (a probrexit paper) has calculated, based on assumptions, and even they say it could be net somewhere between 45 Billion and 75Billion.
Wow, no facts there at all then.
So you are taking the position that the UK doesn't know how much it has pledged to the EU and doesn't know what it's liabilities are? That's not fiscally responsible.
No, I'm taking the view that you're quoting a source as fact, when it's clearly not.
And I find it ironic that you're saying that the UK us fiscally irresponsible, without commenting on the fiscal irresponsibility of the EU.
Well there are 2 options. The UK government knows its liabilities, or it doesnt. Which one is it?
The EU knows what the figure is, or it doesn't which one is it?
I honestly don't think there is a figure
The EU resents the fact that you are leaving and wants to get as many kilos of flesh as it can, irrespective if you owe it or not
The UK want to appear they are trying to negotiate - but in all probability will leave without a deal being struck
It will then be a case of picking your winners and losers.
From a citizen of the EU, I would say the UK probably has the capacity and manoeuvrability to make a better recovery than the EU - certainly in the medium/long term
So the UK could easily publish the figure and show what a greedy bunch the EU is. But they haven't. "
And the EU could easily publish the figure and show how the UK is trying to con the EU - but they haven't. |
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"It is only 2 weeks left, they have hinted it could be around the £53 billion mark."
They can hint all they like, Brexit secretary David Davis has said he doesn't recognise the 2 week deadline the EU has put forward. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"It is only 2 weeks left, they have hinted it could be around the £53 billion mark.
They can hint all they like, Brexit secretary David Davis has said he doesn't recognise the 2 week deadline the EU has put forward. "
You have no idea how negotiations work, do you? You think Davis is just going to start talking about Trade and the EU will just sit there and take it? |
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"They can hint all they like, Brexit secretary David Davis has said he doesn't recognise the 2 week deadline the EU has put forward. "
You like many really don't get it...
The brexit negotiations are not negotiations. They are us begging the EU not to totally shaft us and the EU saying well this is what we want otherwise you can go get fucked...
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And the EU are beginning to loose patients with us. If we continue to act as we are they are going to take us outside and give us a really good economic kicking and our brexit team are either too stupid or too full of themselves to realise that they are about to take a tasty hiding from the quiet bloke in the corner that they have been picking on all night who is actually a heavyweight boxer and not the pushover they think! |
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"And the EU are beginning to loose patients with us. If we continue to act as we are they are going to take us outside and give us a really good economic kicking and our brexit team are either too stupid or too full of themselves to realise that they are about to take a tasty hiding from the quiet bloke in the corner that they have been picking on all night who is actually a heavyweight boxer and not the pushover they think!"
You are mistaken, that bloke who has been sitting on his own in the corner all night is Jean Claude Juncker, a proven alcoholic d*unk who struggles to raise a finger let alone a fist at the end of a night out on the drink. |
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"It is only 2 weeks left, they have hinted it could be around the £53 billion mark.
They can hint all they like, Brexit secretary David Davis has said he doesn't recognise the 2 week deadline the EU has put forward.
You have no idea how negotiations work, do you? You think Davis is just going to start talking about Trade and the EU will just sit there and take it?"
I get it alright, it's clear that you don't! As David Davis said today on sky news the real deadline for the Brexit bill talks are in late December, not in 2 weeks time as the EU are trying to bully us into giving a figure over. |
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"They can hint all they like, Brexit secretary David Davis has said he doesn't recognise the 2 week deadline the EU has put forward.
You like many really don't get it...
The brexit negotiations are not negotiations. They are us begging the EU not to totally shaft us and the EU saying well this is what we want otherwise you can go get fucked...
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I don't think you get it. You can't see that the EU is acting like a playground bully and let's face it they have previous form for this in they way they treated Greece. Only Great Britain in NOT Greece and the EU has made a grave mistake in treating us in the same regard as they treated Greece. Britain won't be pushed around or bullied, the EU should have learned this from history. So its as David Davis said he doesn't recognise the EU's 2 week deadline. The Prime minister is going to have it passed into law that we will leave the EU come what may in March 2019. If there is no deal then we will leave with no deal. The government has already started making preparations for a no deal scenario. |
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"It is only 2 weeks left, they have hinted it could be around the £53 billion mark.
They can hint all they like, Brexit secretary David Davis has said he doesn't recognise the 2 week deadline the EU has put forward.
You have no idea how negotiations work, do you? You think Davis is just going to start talking about Trade and the EU will just sit there and take it?
I get it alright, it's clear that you don't! As David Davis said today on sky news the real deadline for the Brexit bill talks are in late December, not in 2 weeks time as the EU are trying to bully us into giving a figure over. "
Isnt Davis part of the same gang of Tories that said the EU can swivel haha..
Weak as piss he is and being found out big time |
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"They can hint all they like, Brexit secretary David Davis has said he doesn't recognise the 2 week deadline the EU has put forward.
You like many really don't get it...
The brexit negotiations are not negotiations. They are us begging the EU not to totally shaft us and the EU saying well this is what we want otherwise you can go get fucked...
I don't think you get it. You can't see that the EU is acting like a playground bully and let's face it they have previous form for this in they way they treated Greece. Only Great Britain in NOT Greece and the EU has made a grave mistake in treating us in the same regard as they treated Greece. Britain won't be pushed around or bullied, the EU should have learned this from history. So its as David Davis said he doesn't recognise the EU's 2 week deadline. The Prime minister is going to have it passed into law that we will leave the EU come what may in March 2019. If there is no deal then we will leave with no deal. The government has already started making preparations for a no deal scenario. "
Is this the same Davis that said he would have the battle of the Summer with the EU over the sequencing of talks, who said that they would not be pushed into sequencing because it would be such a disaster for the UK and then pitifully capitulated almost immediately? |
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By *LCCCouple
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view? "
So OP, tell us, did the EU cave into British demands? |
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view?
So OP, tell us, did the EU cave into British demands? "
No, they didnt, they got more time to the 13th december, cos there havent been enough progress |
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By *LCCCouple
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view? "
Well the UK met the EUs deadline. Its pretty clear which party is the monkey, and which is the organ grinder. |
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"The british government has less than a month to make a concession on the brexit bill in order to guarantee launching trade talks in december, how likely will that be, what is your view?
Well the UK met the EUs deadline. Its pretty clear which party is the monkey, and which is the organ grinder. "
Yes they did, but this is just one part of many negotiations to come. |
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