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over a year ago
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Apparently he wasn't even aware of what the allegations were, not even when he died. Sacked, humiliated and splattered all over the press. All without ever being given the chance to defend himself. I am so sad for him and his family. So much for innocent until proven guilty. |
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"Apparently he wasn't even aware of what the allegations were, not even when he died. Sacked, humiliated and splattered all over the press. All without ever being given the chance to defend himself. I am so sad for him and his family. So much for innocent until proven guilty. " |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Apparently he wasn't even aware of what the allegations were, not even when he died. Sacked, humiliated and splattered all over the press. All without ever being given the chance to defend himself. I am so sad for him and his family. So much for innocent until proven guilty. "
True, same could be said for Jimmy Savile though |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Apparently he wasn't even aware of what the allegations were, not even when he died. Sacked, humiliated and splattered all over the press. All without ever being given the chance to defend himself. I am so sad for him and his family. So much for innocent until proven guilty. "
True, but innocent until proven guilty is for 3rd parties. He would know what he had or hadn't done. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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I reckon people should think twice when posting incase it turns this into 'trial by fab'
Everyone likes gossip but not through something like this "
No one has accused him of anything. |
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I reckon people should think twice when posting incase it turns this into 'trial by fab'
Everyone likes gossip but not through something like this
No one has accused him of anything. "
Not saying anyone has, just thought I'd day before anyone did. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I reckon people should think twice when posting incase it turns this into 'trial by fab'
Everyone likes gossip but not through something like this
No one has accused him of anything. "
No one has, just thought id mention BEFORE anyone MIGHT stray into unsavory tertitory. . Its not a command or anything, just sayin.. Tell me to shut up if you like |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Apparently he wasn't even aware of what the allegations were, not even when he died. Sacked, humiliated and splattered all over the press. All without ever being given the chance to defend himself. I am so sad for him and his family. So much for innocent until proven guilty.
True, but innocent until proven guilty is for 3rd parties. He would know what he had or hadn't done. "
I don't follow what you mean by that. |
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By *LCCCouple
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"Apparently he wasn't even aware of what the allegations were, not even when he died. Sacked, humiliated and splattered all over the press. All without ever being given the chance to defend himself. I am so sad for him and his family. So much for innocent until proven guilty.
True, but innocent until proven guilty is for 3rd parties. He would know what he had or hadn't done.
I don't follow what you mean by that."
If person A is accused of doing something to person B, the general public XYZ, have to assume that A is innocent of the alleged offence until A is found guilty in a court of law. However, A will know if they did something or not. Person A doesn't need to wait for the conclusion of the trial to know if they did it or not. |
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"Apparently he wasn't even aware of what the allegations were, not even when he died. Sacked, humiliated and splattered all over the press. All without ever being given the chance to defend himself. I am so sad for him and his family. So much for innocent until proven guilty.
True, but innocent until proven guilty is for 3rd parties. He would know what he had or hadn't done.
I don't follow what you mean by that.
If person A is accused of doing something to person B, the general public XYZ, have to assume that A is innocent of the alleged offence until A is found guilty in a court of law. However, A will know if they did something or not. Person A doesn't need to wait for the conclusion of the trial to know if they did it or not."
Person A might not make it to a court of law if they feel the entire world already sees them as guilty. Whether they are or not. Removing ghe man from his position, effectively sacking him and having it splashed all over the press does not sound like 'general public xyz' having to assume he is innocent until found guilty in a court of law |
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By *LCCCouple
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"Apparently he wasn't even aware of what the allegations were, not even when he died. Sacked, humiliated and splattered all over the press. All without ever being given the chance to defend himself. I am so sad for him and his family. So much for innocent until proven guilty.
True, but innocent until proven guilty is for 3rd parties. He would know what he had or hadn't done.
I don't follow what you mean by that.
If person A is accused of doing something to person B, the general public XYZ, have to assume that A is innocent of the alleged offence until A is found guilty in a court of law. However, A will know if they did something or not. Person A doesn't need to wait for the conclusion of the trial to know if they did it or not.
Person A might not make it to a court of law if they feel the entire world already sees them as guilty. Whether they are or not. Removing ghe man from his position, effectively sacking him and having it splashed all over the press does not sound like 'general public xyz' having to assume he is innocent until found guilty in a court of law"
True, but that still doesn't change my original point that person A knows what they did and didn't do. |
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"Apparently he wasn't even aware of what the allegations were, not even when he died. Sacked, humiliated and splattered all over the press. All without ever being given the chance to defend himself. I am so sad for him and his family. So much for innocent until proven guilty.
True, but innocent until proven guilty is for 3rd parties. He would know what he had or hadn't done.
I don't follow what you mean by that.
If person A is accused of doing something to person B, the general public XYZ, have to assume that A is innocent of the alleged offence until A is found guilty in a court of law. However, A will know if they did something or not. Person A doesn't need to wait for the conclusion of the trial to know if they did it or not.
Person A might not make it to a court of law if they feel the entire world already sees them as guilty. Whether they are or not. Removing ghe man from his position, effectively sacking him and having it splashed all over the press does not sound like 'general public xyz' having to assume he is innocent until found guilty in a court of law
True, but that still doesn't change my original point that person A knows what they did and didn't do. "
Yes, but someone may feel a conclusion has been reached (rigbtly or wrongly) by others if theyve been sacked rather than suspended, and feel theyve been judged and sentenced by bosses and the press etc. People rarely think straight or act rationslly when upset or angry |
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