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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Oh dear Oh dear.

With the pathetic MSM banging on about some made up (in my opinion, zero evidence presented) Trump/Russia collusion for almost a year now it turns out that....

Wait for it,

None other than Killary Clinton is the real treasonous deplorable that colluded, lied, sold out the USA and put money before national security .

$145 million into the bent Clinton foundation for Rosatom, the regulatory body of the Russian nuclear complex, to aquire 20% of uranium produced by the US. All documented by the FBI and ignored by the Obama administration.

Even more retarded, info was aquired by a freedom of information request . You'd think they'd have denied that one ehh.

Is this the final nail in her coffin that will send this disgusting woman to jail where she belongs?

Discuss .

P.s. Didn't seem to be on the BBC news tonight even though it could well be the biggest scandal in US political history..... Shocker.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes

This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fakes news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rodaton Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that? "

No idea. Don't really care tbh. Feel free to address the blatant treason anytime you want instead of telling me who's "running" the US.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

This wasn't true back in 2016, it's not news now.

But when Donny farts out a tweet there's always people willing to parrot that message uncritically, as we see here.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes

This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fake news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rosatin Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that?

No idea. Don't really care tbh. Feel free to address the blatant treason anytime you want instead of telling me who's "running" the US. "

Check your facts before you repeat what you've read but not researched yourself.

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS  over a year ago

Burton-on-Trent

Yes Hillary is terrible and this will probably see her finished. But scandal, lies and total incompetence hardly seemed like a burden to Trump did it?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fakes news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rodaton Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

"

Sorry but utter rubbish.

Yes the deal is well documented, I'm not denying that. What's new is the FBI documents regarding bribes, bla**mail and the Obama administrations failure to prosecute blatant treason.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Yes Hillary is terrible and this will probably see her finished. But scandal, lies and total incompetence hardly seemed like a burden to Trump did it?

"

Except that, as set out in the original OP, it simply untrue.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that?

No idea. Don't really care tbh. Feel free to address the blatant treason anytime you want instead of telling me who's "running" the US.

Check your facts before you repeat what you've read but not researched yourself."

Lol, feel free to enlighten me. You saying the FBI falsified documents, wire taps, witness testimonies, transactions into the Clinton foundation? Seems pretty clear cut.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fakes news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rodaton Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

Sorry but utter rubbish.

Yes the deal is well documented, I'm not denying that. What's new is the FBI documents regarding bribes, bla**mail and the Obama administrations failure to prosecute blatant treason."

You clearly haven't read the factcheck link because it talks about the allegations of bribery and corruption against Hillary. Those allocations were originally made back in 2015. There was, and still is, no evidence to support those allegations.

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS  over a year ago

Burton-on-Trent


"Yes Hillary is terrible and this will probably see her finished. But scandal, lies and total incompetence hardly seemed like a burden to Trump did it?

Except that, as set out in the original OP, it simply untrue."

No it's perfectly true. Trump is a liar, scandal ridden and incompetent.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I like how this treason and collusion took place with the full knowledge and approval of the government of the very country they we're conspiring against.

Truly, words have no meanings anymore.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that?

No idea. Don't really care tbh. Feel free to address the blatant treason anytime you want instead of telling me who's "running" the US.

Check your facts before you repeat what you've read but not researched yourself.

Lol, feel free to enlighten me. You saying the FBI falsified documents, wire taps, witness testimonies, transactions into the Clinton foundation? Seems pretty clear cut. "

I'm saying there are no FBI documents, witness testimonies or transactions that support an allegation of treason, bribery or corruption by Hillary in relation to UraniumOne and Rosatom.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that?

No idea. Don't really care tbh. Feel free to address the blatant treason anytime you want instead of telling me who's "running" the US. "

Well she hasn't committed treason, so that's why she hasn't been arrested or charged. We all know that Trump doesn't care about swing voters, he only cares about his base. They would love him to "lock her up" the fact he hasn't proves she didn't do anything.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that?

No idea. Don't really care tbh. Feel free to address the blatant treason anytime you want instead of telling me who's "running" the US.

Well she hasn't committed treason, so that's why she hasn't been arrested or charged. We all know that Trump doesn't care about swing voters, he only cares about his base. They would love him to "lock her up" the fact he hasn't proves she didn't do anything."

It doesn't actually prove that she didn't do anything. It does however seem likely that there is no proof that she has committed treason and the most likely and plausible reason for the total lack of any proof that she has committed treason is because she hasn't.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fakes news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rodaton Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

Sorry but utter rubbish.

Yes the deal is well documented, I'm not denying that. What's new is the FBI documents regarding bribes, bla**mail and the Obama administrations failure to prosecute blatant treason.

You clearly haven't read the factcheck link because it talks about the allegations of bribery and corruption against Hillary. Those allocations were originally made back in 2015. There was, and still is, no evidence to support those allegations."

Evidence came out yesterday, documented by the FBI, aquired by a freedom of information request. It also shows that Comey had written a pardon for Clinton RE the email scandal 2 months before he interviewed her. Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that?

No idea. Don't really care tbh. Feel free to address the blatant treason anytime you want instead of telling me who's "running" the US.

Check your facts before you repeat what you've read but not researched yourself.

Lol, feel free to enlighten me. You saying the FBI falsified documents, wire taps, witness testimonies, transactions into the Clinton foundation? Seems pretty clear cut.

I'm saying there are no FBI documents, witness testimonies or transactions that support an allegation of treason, bribery or corruption by Hillary in relation to UraniumOne and Rosatom."

Looks to me like there are now.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that?

No idea. Don't really care tbh. Feel free to address the blatant treason anytime you want instead of telling me who's "running" the US.

Well she hasn't committed treason, so that's why she hasn't been arrested or charged. We all know that Trump doesn't care about swing voters, he only cares about his base. They would love him to "lock her up" the fact he hasn't proves she didn't do anything.

It doesn't actually prove that she didn't do anything. It does however seem likely that there is no proof that she has committed treason and the most likely and plausible reason for the total lack of any proof that she has committed treason is because she hasn't."

Yes, that's the general thrust

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS  over a year ago

Burton-on-Trent


"This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fakes news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rodaton Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

Sorry but utter rubbish.

Yes the deal is well documented, I'm not denying that. What's new is the FBI documents regarding bribes, bla**mail and the Obama administrations failure to prosecute blatant treason.

You clearly haven't read the factcheck link because it talks about the allegations of bribery and corruption against Hillary. Those allocations were originally made back in 2015. There was, and still is, no evidence to support those allegations.

Evidence came out yesterday, documented by the FBI, aquired by a freedom of information request. It also shows that Comey had written a pardon for Clinton RE the email scandal 2 months before he interviewed her. Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday."

Should have said you were getting your info from fox news. That most neutral of news sources.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I'm guessing the little lul in reply's here is all you guys googling your wee heads off and finding out everything I've said is true..... .

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fakes news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rodaton Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

Sorry but utter rubbish.

Yes the deal is well documented, I'm not denying that. What's new is the FBI documents regarding bribes, bla**mail and the Obama administrations failure to prosecute blatant treason.

You clearly haven't read the factcheck link because it talks about the allegations of bribery and corruption against Hillary. Those allocations were originally made back in 2015. There was, and still is, no evidence to support those allegations.

Evidence came out yesterday, documented by the FBI, aquired by a freedom of information request. It also shows that Comey had written a pardon for Clinton RE the email scandal 2 months before he interviewed her. Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday.

Should have said you were getting your info from fox news. That most neutral of news sources. "

Wrong again. Hannity just done a hit piece on it....... it's everywhere except where it should be.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"I'm guessing the little lul in reply's here is all you guys googling your wee heads off and finding out everything I've said is true..... ."

It's true that she hasn't been arrested. These allegations are years old and nothing has been done, despite 2 different administrations being in the White House.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fakes news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rodaton Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

Sorry but utter rubbish.

Yes the deal is well documented, I'm not denying that. What's new is the FBI documents regarding bribes, bla**mail and the Obama administrations failure to prosecute blatant treason.

You clearly haven't read the factcheck link because it talks about the allegations of bribery and corruption against Hillary. Those allocations were originally made back in 2015. There was, and still is, no evidence to support those allegations.

Evidence came out yesterday, documented by the FBI, aquired by a freedom of information request. It also shows that Comey had written a pardon for Clinton RE the email scandal 2 months before he interviewed her. Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday.

Should have said you were getting your info from fox news. That most neutral of news sources.

Wrong again. Hannity just done a hit piece on it....... it's everywhere except where it should be."

You mean Sean Hannity, from FOX NEWS? Oh yeah, that's totally different to hearing it from fox news.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I'm guessing the little lul in reply's here is all you guys googling your wee heads off and finding out everything I've said is true..... .

It's true that she hasn't been arrested. These allegations are years old and nothing has been done, despite 2 different administrations being in the White House."

Jimmy never got arrested for being a peado, turns out he was though and loads of people knew it. Hopefully the same mistake isn't made twice.

Out of curiosity, what would it take in your eyes to arrest this woman?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"I'm guessing the little lul in reply's here is all you guys googling your wee heads off and finding out everything I've said is true..... .

It's true that she hasn't been arrested. These allegations are years old and nothing has been done, despite 2 different administrations being in the White House.

Jimmy never got arrested for being a peado, turns out he was though and loads of people knew it. Hopefully the same mistake isn't made twice.

Out of curiosity, what would it take in your eyes to arrest this woman?"

You said that the FBI had this information, they and the AG have decided not to arrest her, not to charge her, not to persecute her, not to put her in front of a grand jury.

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By *ensualtouch15Man  over a year ago

ashby de la zouch


"This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fakes news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rodaton Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

Sorry but utter rubbish.

Yes the deal is well documented, I'm not denying that. What's new is the FBI documents regarding bribes, bla**mail and the Obama administrations failure to prosecute blatant treason.

You clearly haven't read the factcheck link because it talks about the allegations of bribery and corruption against Hillary. Those allocations were originally made back in 2015. There was, and still is, no evidence to support those allegations.

Evidence came out yesterday, documented by the FBI, aquired by a freedom of information request. It also shows that Comey had written a pardon for Clinton RE the email scandal 2 months before he interviewed her. Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday."

Fox news lol

Hang on let me fact check this ? Oh yes the daily sport have proven Hillary is an alien from Saturn ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I'm guessing the little lul in reply's here is all you guys googling your wee heads off and finding out everything I've said is true..... .

It's true that she hasn't been arrested. These allegations are years old and nothing has been done, despite 2 different administrations being in the White House.

Jimmy never got arrested for being a peado, turns out he was though and loads of people knew it. Hopefully the same mistake isn't made twice.

Out of curiosity, what would it take in your eyes to arrest this woman?

You said that the FBI had this information, they and the AG have decided not to arrest her, not to charge her, not to persecute her, not to put her in front of a grand jury. "

Lol. It's really not hard figure out why, for now, it's not happened. I'm down to 2 though do I'd say I'm winning. Go find out who's running the FBI and thier links to the Obama administration. The swamp is being drained, just not as quick as some would like.

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By *ustJ0dieTV/TS  over a year ago

Burton-on-Trent


"I'm guessing the little lul in reply's here is all you guys googling your wee heads off and finding out everything I've said is true..... .

It's true that she hasn't been arrested. These allegations are years old and nothing has been done, despite 2 different administrations being in the White House.

Jimmy never got arrested for being a peado, turns out he was though and loads of people knew it. Hopefully the same mistake isn't made twice.

Out of curiosity, what would it take in your eyes to arrest this woman?"

Corroborated evidence, facts, probable cause. Not an old disproved story being pushed by Trump's mouthpiece to distract from his wrongdoings and daily fuckups.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"This is old news and was reported originally in 2014/15. It's also, while based on some truth, mostly simply fakes news used to try and discredit Hillary Clinton.

If you want to know the truth read this link.

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-veto-power-for-clinton-on-uranium-deal/

If you Google 'Rodaton Clinton' you will also see that the BBC did cover the story at the time (2015).

Sorry but utter rubbish.

Yes the deal is well documented, I'm not denying that. What's new is the FBI documents regarding bribes, bla**mail and the Obama administrations failure to prosecute blatant treason.

You clearly haven't read the factcheck link because it talks about the allegations of bribery and corruption against Hillary. Those allocations were originally made back in 2015. There was, and still is, no evidence to support those allegations.

Evidence came out yesterday, documented by the FBI, aquired by a freedom of information request. It also shows that Comey had written a pardon for Clinton RE the email scandal 2 months before he interviewed her. Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday.

Fox news lol

Hang on let me fact check this ? Oh yes the daily sport have proven Hillary is an alien from Saturn ?"

Once again, Hannity done a hit piece. That is all. I don't rely on any media outlet, I watch them all but do my own research. You should try it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I'm guessing the little lul in reply's here is all you guys googling your wee heads off and finding out everything I've said is true..... .

It's true that she hasn't been arrested. These allegations are years old and nothing has been done, despite 2 different administrations being in the White House.

Jimmy never got arrested for being a peado, turns out he was though and loads of people knew it. Hopefully the same mistake isn't made twice.

Out of curiosity, what would it take in your eyes to arrest this woman?

Corroborated evidence, facts, probable cause. Not an old disproved story being pushed by Trump's mouthpiece to distract from his wrongdoings and daily fuckups. "

You can literally find the documents, go look.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" Jimmy never got arrested for being a peado, turns out he was though and loads of people knew it. Hopefully the same mistake isn't made twice.

"

Of course, we could use this line of "reasoning" on anyone for anything. It only works if you believe the conclusion ahead of time.

It's stupid, and you should be ashamed.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Also, not to nitpick, but a "hit piece" means news that is attempting to sway public opinion with false or biased information.

I mean, you're not wrong that Hannity has put out a hit piece, but I don't believe you meant to be so forthright about it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Ashamed of what "demonjohnsaysyourwrong"? Go do a google search. We deal in facts.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"I'm guessing the little lul in reply's here is all you guys googling your wee heads off and finding out everything I've said is true..... .

It's true that she hasn't been arrested. These allegations are years old and nothing has been done, despite 2 different administrations being in the White House.

Jimmy never got arrested for being a peado, turns out he was though and loads of people knew it. Hopefully the same mistake isn't made twice.

Out of curiosity, what would it take in your eyes to arrest this woman?

You said that the FBI had this information, they and the AG have decided not to arrest her, not to charge her, not to persecute her, not to put her in front of a grand jury.

Lol. It's really not hard figure out why, for now, it's not happened. I'm down to 2 though do I'd say I'm winning. Go find out who's running the FBI and thier links to the Obama administration. The swamp is being drained, just not as quick as some would like. "

For years it hasn't happened. The swamp is being drained? 3 cabinet members are being investigated for improper use of private planes!

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Also, not to nitpick, but a "hit piece" means news that is attempting to sway public opinion with false or biased information.

I mean, you're not wrong that Hannity has put out a hit piece, but I don't believe you meant to be so forthright about it."

We'll give you that one.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

For the record, I'm not a Trumper as many of you may think.

In my opinion America was given a choice between a disaster and a catastrophy that day which is sad in itself.

I'm still unsure which they went for.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I'm guessing the little lul in reply's here is all you guys googling your wee heads off and finding out everything I've said is true..... .

It's true that she hasn't been arrested. These allegations are years old and nothing has been done, despite 2 different administrations being in the White House.

Jimmy never got arrested for being a peado, turns out he was though and loads of people knew it. Hopefully the same mistake isn't made twice.

Out of curiosity, what would it take in your eyes to arrest this woman?"

Proof might be a starting point?

And this is from someone who has nothing but disdain for the Clinton Clan.....

Fake news, lies and rumours do not equate to proof tho!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ashamed of what "demonjohnsaysyourwrong"? Go do a google search. We deal in facts."

You ought to be ashamed of responding to the very accurate point that Hillary Clinton hasn't been charged with any crime, that Jimmy Savile also wasn't charged with anything, therefore clearly Hillary is actually guilty, we just haven't found the proof yet.

It's monstrously stupid.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The only real question is "is this a concerted effort by Trump to distract from one of his latest fuckups"

Or

"Is the feeble minded dotard just yelling about this because it was on Morning Joe today"

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ashamed of what "demonjohnsaysyourwrong"? Go do a google search. We deal in facts.

You ought to be ashamed of responding to the very accurate point that Hillary Clinton hasn't been charged with any crime, that Jimmy Savile also wasn't charged with anything, therefore clearly Hillary is actually guilty, we just haven't found the proof yet.

It's monstrously stupid."

Sorry for trying to point out something I can now rather than something that happened when I was a child, how demonstrable of me. I'm ashamed of nothing, you should be ashamed of trying to shame me for pointing it out.

How's M103 working out for you? Absolute lunacy. Cuddos to Trudeau.

End of roast.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ashamed of what "demonjohnsaysyourwrong"? Go do a google search. We deal in facts.

You ought to be ashamed of responding to the very accurate point that Hillary Clinton hasn't been charged with any crime, that Jimmy Savile also wasn't charged with anything, therefore clearly Hillary is actually guilty, we just haven't found the proof yet.

It's monstrously stupid.

Sorry for trying to point out something I can now rather than something that happened when I was a child, how demonstrable of me. I'm ashamed of nothing, you should be ashamed of trying to shame me for pointing it out.

How's M103 working out for you? Absolute lunacy. Cuddos to Trudeau.

End of roast."

You're not pointing out anything. You're trying to imply guilt by association by forcing an association where none exists.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got a raging hate boner for Hillary, and just because that's daft doesn't give you license to make bad arguments unchallenged.

And M-103 is fine, I mean its just a motion so it doesn't do anything, it confirms that Canada condemns systemic racism and religious discrimination, including Islamophobia.

So, yes.

Kudos indeed.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ashamed of what "demonjohnsaysyourwrong"? Go do a google search. We deal in facts.

You ought to be ashamed of responding to the very accurate point that Hillary Clinton hasn't been charged with any crime, that Jimmy Savile also wasn't charged with anything, therefore clearly Hillary is actually guilty, we just haven't found the proof yet.

It's monstrously stupid.

Sorry for trying to point out something I can now rather than something that happened when I was a child, how demonstrable of me. I'm ashamed of nothing, you should be ashamed of trying to shame me for pointing it out.

How's M103 working out for you? Absolute lunacy. Cuddos to Trudeau.

End of roast.

You're not pointing out anything. You're trying to imply guilt by association by forcing an association where none exists.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got a raging hate boner for Hillary, and just because that's daft doesn't give you license to make bad arguments unchallenged.

And M-103 is fine, I mean its just a motion so it doesn't do anything, it confirms that Canada condemns systemic racism and religious discrimination, including Islamophobia.

So, yes.

Kudos indeed."

First of all I'm implying absolutely nothing, especially not guilt by association you mad man. Nice "classic lefty" try though.

Second, I hate no one, not even Killary, don't like her much but hate? No.

Thirdly, well, let's talk in 3-5 years.

Feel free to PM us before then though.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

I think posting about an alleged unfounded information publishing by making an equally hard line criticism,against someone else - without any links to evidence is farcical.

Op, you're an unknown poster in an internet forum . The internet is awash with ludicrous claims - if you don't wish to be perceived by us in the same way, you'll need to open threads with supporting evidence from exemplary sources and using sites that fab permits use of in the forum.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ashamed of what "demonjohnsaysyourwrong"? Go do a google search. We deal in facts.

You ought to be ashamed of responding to the very accurate point that Hillary Clinton hasn't been charged with any crime, that Jimmy Savile also wasn't charged with anything, therefore clearly Hillary is actually guilty, we just haven't found the proof yet.

It's monstrously stupid.

Sorry for trying to point out something I can now rather than something that happened when I was a child, how demonstrable of me. I'm ashamed of nothing, you should be ashamed of trying to shame me for pointing it out.

How's M103 working out for you? Absolute lunacy. Cuddos to Trudeau.

End of roast.

You're not pointing out anything. You're trying to imply guilt by association by forcing an association where none exists.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got a raging hate boner for Hillary, and just because that's daft doesn't give you license to make bad arguments unchallenged.

And M-103 is fine, I mean its just a motion so it doesn't do anything, it confirms that Canada condemns systemic racism and religious discrimination, including Islamophobia.

So, yes.

Kudos indeed.

First of all I'm implying absolutely nothing, especially not guilt by association you mad man. Nice "classic lefty" try though.

"

OK then explain, in detail what Jimmy Savile has to do with Hillary Clinton.

I'll wait.


"

Second, I hate no one, not even Killary, don't like her much but hate? No.

"

Yeah... You can't seem to bring yourself to type her actual name, and you're absolutely convinced she's guilty of *something* so she ought to be in jail already, also, something, something Jimmy Savile.

But I'm sure that's just reasonable behaviour when you have ideological differences with someone.


"

Thirdly, well, let's talk in 3-5 years.

"

Ohhhhh, how ominous!

What could you possibly be alluding to?

It's such a mystery...

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday."

..... and thats where you lose any credibility...

Sean hannity.... really???

there is a reason why fox's "news division" seperate themselves for the opinion people like hannity and tucker carlson

in fact i am surprise hannity isn't running another behghazi story... but he can't at the moment for trumps ineptitude with the 4 soldiers killed in niger!

there is a reason why trump only ever does interviews with hannity, more "arselicking" than "hardhitting".....

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Ashamed of what "demonjohnsaysyourwrong"? Go do a google search. We deal in facts.

You ought to be ashamed of responding to the very accurate point that Hillary Clinton hasn't been charged with any crime, that Jimmy Savile also wasn't charged with anything, therefore clearly Hillary is actually guilty, we just haven't found the proof yet.

It's monstrously stupid.

Sorry for trying to point out something I can now rather than something that happened when I was a child, how demonstrable of me. I'm ashamed of nothing, you should be ashamed of trying to shame me for pointing it out.

How's M103 working out for you? Absolute lunacy. Cuddos to Trudeau.

End of roast.

You're not pointing out anything. You're trying to imply guilt by association by forcing an association where none exists.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've got a raging hate boner for Hillary, and just because that's daft doesn't give you license to make bad arguments unchallenged.

And M-103 is fine, I mean its just a motion so it doesn't do anything, it confirms that Canada condemns systemic racism and religious discrimination, including Islamophobia.

So, yes.

Kudos indeed.

First of all I'm implying absolutely nothing, especially not guilt by association you mad man. Nice "classic lefty" try though.

OK then explain, in detail what Jimmy Savile has to do with Hillary Clinton.

I'll wait.

Second, I hate no one, not even Killary, don't like her much but hate? No.

Yeah... You can't seem to bring yourself to type her actual name, and you're absolutely convinced she's guilty of *something* so she ought to be in jail already, also, something, something Jimmy Savile.

But I'm sure that's just reasonable behaviour when you have ideological differences with someone.

Thirdly, well, let's talk in 3-5 years.

Ohhhhh, how ominous!

What could you possibly be alluding to?

It's such a mystery..."

Wow, you put some effort into that one didn't ya.

M103 means you can't walk your streets and say what you feel, at the very least, you'll probably get jailed for thinking it so on , it's a joke. What ever happened to sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. Far to many people in today's western societies think getting thier god dam feelings hurt is a crime, where does it stop? I personally think all religion is a joke, there is absolutely no such thing as a "religion of peace" and if you think there is your delusional.

Never said Hillary and Jimmy have anything in common except rich and powerful people get away with, well, pretty much anything you or I would be jailed in an instant for. If you can't see that I feel sorry for you. Ideological thinking is moronic and not something I do, I think and act logically with my own morals as my compass. Worship who you want, bang who you want, skin colour is irrelevant and say what you want. Try and force it upon me then we have a problem.

That woman is guilty of so much, the deaths of 10's of thousands if not 100's of thousands of innocent Syrians would be my first go to for charges but hey, you probably believe she had nothing to do with that utter train wreck.

Lastly, I'll be suprised if your allowed to talk in 3 to 5 years for fear of hurting someones feelings.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday.

..... and thats where you lose any credibility...

Sean hannity.... really???

there is a reason why fox's "news division" seperate themselves for the opinion people like hannity and tucker carlson

in fact i am surprise hannity isn't running another behghazi story... but he can't at the moment for trumps ineptitude with the 4 soldiers killed in niger!

there is a reason why trump only ever does interviews with hannity, more "arselicking" than "hardhitting"....."

OK, once again. Hannity done a piece on it, that is all. Go find the documents. If you think all is in order with $145 million for 20% of US uranium then we're done chatting really.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford

I think you know how a thread will pan out when it starts with "Oh dear, Oh Dear".

Ergo; I didn't read it. Was it as shit as I'd imagined?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Wow, you put some effort into that one didn't ya.

"

More than it deserved, truth be told.


"

M103 means you can't walk your streets and say what you feel, at the very least, you'll probably get jailed for thinking it so on , it's a joke.

"

The M prefix means its a motion, which means it's simply a statement on something. It can't stop me from walking anywhere, or saying things, because it doesn't actually do anything.

You'd need a bill for that.


"

What ever happened to sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. Far to many people in today's western societies think getting thier god dam feelings hurt is a crime, where does it stop? I personally think all religion is a joke, there is absolutely no such thing as a "religion of peace" and if you think there is your delusional.

"

Your, undoubtedly well informed, opinions on kids these days and religions in general are duly noted.


"

Never said Hillary and Jimmy have anything in common except rich and powerful people get away with, well, pretty much anything you or I would be jailed in an instant for. If you can't see that I feel sorry for you.

"

I don't see any relevance in bringing Savile up, except as a transparent attempt to create a false equivalence. Poor showing, try harder next time.


"

Ideological thinking is moronic and not something I do, I think and act logically

"

Do you? Because evidence is stacking up to the contrary.


"

Worship who you want, bang who you want, skin colour is irrelevant and say what you want. Try and force it upon me then we have a problem.

"

Good for you.

What's that got to do with anything?


"

That woman is guilty of so much, the deaths of 10's of thousands if not 100's of thousands of innocent Syrians would be my first go to for charges but hey, you probably believe she had nothing to do with that utter train wreck.

"

I wonder how she had the time to murder all those people? She must be real good at it. Fair play to her.


"

Lastly, I'll be suprised if your allowed to talk in 3 to 5 years for fear of hurting someones feelings."

You forgot the word "snowflake" from your rote reciting of baseless whining about the world.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday.

..... and thats where you lose any credibility...

Sean hannity.... really???

there is a reason why fox's "news division" seperate themselves for the opinion people like hannity and tucker carlson

in fact i am surprise hannity isn't running another behghazi story... but he can't at the moment for trumps ineptitude with the 4 soldiers killed in niger!

there is a reason why trump only ever does interviews with hannity, more "arselicking" than "hardhitting".....

OK, once again. Hannity done a piece on it, that is all. Go find the documents. If you think all is in order with $145 million for 20% of US uranium then we're done chatting really."

I think you'll find that it's 20% of UraniumOne, a Canadian company I believe, that mines Uranium and supplies some of that Uranium to the US. You really do need to check your facts. Try actually reading the link I posted earlier. You not agree with what it concludes but the actual facts are clearly stated in it.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

Wow, you put some effort into that one didn't ya.

More than it deserved, truth be told.

M103 means you can't walk your streets and say what you feel, at the very least, you'll probably get jailed for thinking it so on , it's a joke.

The M prefix means its a motion, which means it's simply a statement on something. It can't stop me from walking anywhere, or saying things, because it doesn't actually do anything.

You'd need a bill for that.

What ever happened to sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me. Far to many people in today's western societies think getting thier god dam feelings hurt is a crime, where does it stop? I personally think all religion is a joke, there is absolutely no such thing as a "religion of peace" and if you think there is your delusional.

Your, undoubtedly well informed, opinions on kids these days and religions in general are duly noted.

Never said Hillary and Jimmy have anything in common except rich and powerful people get away with, well, pretty much anything you or I would be jailed in an instant for. If you can't see that I feel sorry for you.

I don't see any relevance in bringing Savile up, except as a transparent attempt to create a false equivalence. Poor showing, try harder next time.

Ideological thinking is moronic and not something I do, I think and act logically

Do you? Because evidence is stacking up to the contrary.

Worship who you want, bang who you want, skin colour is irrelevant and say what you want. Try and force it upon me then we have a problem.

Good for you.

What's that got to do with anything?

That woman is guilty of so much, the deaths of 10's of thousands if not 100's of thousands of innocent Syrians would be my first go to for charges but hey, you probably believe she had nothing to do with that utter train wreck.

I wonder how she had the time to murder all those people? She must be real good at it. Fair play to her.

Lastly, I'll be suprised if your allowed to talk in 3 to 5 years for fear of hurting someones feelings.

You forgot the word "snowflake" from your rote reciting of baseless whining about the world."

Oh dear. Few points I could rebuttal there John but your snowflake comment is where we part ways. It does nothing but prove your so institutionalised by the blatantly manufactured left/right paradigm that there's no meaningful discussion to be had.

Before I leave you to your little dream world though, Think about and answer this.

Have you really not noticed that in the last 20 years or so we, humanity, have become so divided? Left vrs right, black vrs white, man vrs woman, Muslim vrs Hindu, trans vrs the world, to name but a few. Pick your side like a good little John while I keep trying to explain to people that the vast majority of it is utter bullshit.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday.

..... and thats where you lose any credibility...

Sean hannity.... really???

there is a reason why fox's "news division" seperate themselves for the opinion people like hannity and tucker carlson

in fact i am surprise hannity isn't running another behghazi story... but he can't at the moment for trumps ineptitude with the 4 soldiers killed in niger!

there is a reason why trump only ever does interviews with hannity, more "arselicking" than "hardhitting".....

OK, once again. Hannity done a piece on it, that is all. Go find the documents. If you think all is in order with $145 million for 20% of US uranium then we're done chatting really.

I think you'll find that it's 20% of UraniumOne, a Canadian company I believe, that mines Uranium and supplies some of that Uranium to the US. You really do need to check your facts. Try actually reading the link I posted earlier. You not agree with what it concludes but the actual facts are clearly stated in it."

You believe!!! , well thank God you joined the conversation. Telling me to check my facts.....lol.

It includes Australia, Canada, Kazakhstan, South Africa and the US.

Anything else to add?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yeah the "oh man, we're so divided now" shtick is both wrong, as people have always been divided on the issues of the day and also a really poor way to try and shame people into getting back into their box and stop rocking the boat.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Yeah the "oh man, we're so divided now" shtick is both wrong, as people have always been divided on the issues of the day and also a really poor way to try and shame people into getting back into their box and stop rocking the boat.

"

No, Europe has seem it's longest peaceful period since records began..... fact. Now it's descending into chaos. Left wing this, right wing that, Muslims done this, the cops done that. Who have I shamed? How on earth don't you see this? Your not rocking the boat pal, you are the boat and it's sinking.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Yeah the "oh man, we're so divided now" shtick is both wrong, as people have always been divided on the issues of the day and also a really poor way to try and shame people into getting back into their box and stop rocking the boat.

No, Europe has seem it's longest peaceful period since records began..... fact. Now it's descending into chaos. Left wing this, right wing that, Muslims done this, the cops done that. Who have I shamed? How on earth don't you see this? Your not rocking the boat pal, you are the boat and it's sinking."

The idea we need to preserve the status quo above all, lest we fall into chaos is stupid.

Unsurprisingly, the peace between nations will survive women asserting such dangerous ideas as "we are people too"

Which is both far away and actually close to your initial post, wherein a woman that dared to play the game as a man does is super-hitler.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

I find it strange that the man (Trump) who has been convicted of money laundering for the Russian mob and is under investigation for covert and illegal dealings with Russians is claiming that he has done nothing wrong but an above board corporate investment in a Canadian company by a Russian company controlled by Putin is criminal. Personally I think there could be serious national security issues as a result of the federal contracts that are now effectively held by Putin. But if your countries economy is built on unregulated capitalism and you are ideologically opposed to any form of state run industry then I guess that eventually a foreign power would do to you what you have been doing to yourselves for decades. After all there has to be plenty of pork to be had in uranium...

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By *andACouple  over a year ago

glasgow


"Yeah the "oh man, we're so divided now" shtick is both wrong, as people have always been divided on the issues of the day and also a really poor way to try and shame people into getting back into their box and stop rocking the boat.

No, Europe has seem it's longest peaceful period since records began..... fact. Now it's descending into chaos. Left wing this, right wing that, Muslims done this, the cops done that. Who have I shamed? How on earth don't you see this? Your not rocking the boat pal, you are the boat and it's sinking."

The break up of Yugoslavia and associated conflicts certainly weren't a peacful time for Europe.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I've read the link above and it can be summed up as Hillary Clinton did not have the power to veto the sale but the president did.

If anyone is interested in an alternative point of view from the people who have brought the Clinton cruption to light you can check out judicial watch on youtube and their website were they have purchased documents they received via a freedom of information request.

They also made a documentary called Clinton cash.

It's always a good idea to check facts from multiple sources.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"I've read the link above and it can be summed up as Hillary Clinton did not have the power to veto the sale but the president did.

If anyone is interested in an alternative point of view from the people who have brought the Clinton cruption to light you can check out judicial watch on youtube and their website were they have purchased documents they received via a freedom of information request.

They also made a documentary called Clinton cash.

It's always a good idea to check facts from multiple sources. "

What do you mean they "purchased documents they received via a FOIA"? A FOIA is free (or admin costs)

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"I've read the link above and it can be summed up as Hillary Clinton did not have the power to veto the sale but the president did.

If anyone is interested in an alternative point of view from the people who have brought the Clinton cruption to light you can check out judicial watch on youtube and their website were they have purchased documents they received via a freedom of information request.

They also made a documentary called Clinton cash.

It's always a good idea to check facts from multiple sources.

What do you mean they "purchased documents they received via a FOIA"? A FOIA is free (or admin costs)"

So you don't pay anything, but it still costs you something?

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday.

..... and thats where you lose any credibility...

Sean hannity.... really???

there is a reason why fox's "news division" seperate themselves for the opinion people like hannity and tucker carlson

in fact i am surprise hannity isn't running another behghazi story... but he can't at the moment for trumps ineptitude with the 4 soldiers killed in niger!

there is a reason why trump only ever does interviews with hannity, more "arselicking" than "hardhitting".....

OK, once again. Hannity done a piece on it, that is all. Go find the documents. If you think all is in order with $145 million for 20% of US uranium then we're done chatting really.

I think you'll find that it's 20% of UraniumOne, a Canadian company I believe, that mines Uranium and supplies some of that Uranium to the US. You really do need to check your facts. Try actually reading the link I posted earlier. You not agree with what it concludes but the actual facts are clearly stated in it.

You believe!!! , well thank God you joined the conversation. Telling me to check my facts.....lol.

It includes Australia, Canada, Kazakhstan, South Africa and the US.

Anything else to add?"

It's a Canadian Company that supplies Uranium to the US. It may, and in fact does, supply Uranium to other countries to but that's totally irrelevant to your unfounded argument that Clinton was involved in some kind of corrupt deal that put the security of the US in jeopardy. Again, try actually reading the link I posted, all the relevant facts are in there, and try not to confuse the issues by bringing up totally irrelevant bits of information like Australia.

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental

This is an interesting news article, whether true or not. It's hard to get a balanced viewpoint and opinion as a lot of the media in the USA has some vested interest in the democratic party.

Do you believe the mainstream or do you believe the independents or the republican sources.

I'm pretty sure that if this is true the legal system would be all over it like a rash.

There are some huge problems in the world, a lot are fuelled by greed, power and money. Unfortunately the political parties of all countries fit into these categories. It's not politics. Don't forget these weasels control your everyday lives. They would sell their own Grandma for a few dollars.

I find the whole finger pointing thing hilarious, one day we might get some Truth!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I've read the link above and it can be summed up as Hillary Clinton did not have the power to veto the sale but the president did.

If anyone is interested in an alternative point of view from the people who have brought the Clinton cruption to light you can check out judicial watch on youtube and their website were they have purchased documents they received via a freedom of information request.

They also made a documentary called Clinton cash.

It's always a good idea to check facts from multiple sources.

What do you mean they "purchased documents they received via a FOIA"? A FOIA is free (or admin costs)"

I meant published but it was changed by autocorrect I think.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Looks legit to me and Hannity done a good piece on it on fox news yesterday.

..... and thats where you lose any credibility...

Sean hannity.... really???

there is a reason why fox's "news division" seperate themselves for the opinion people like hannity and tucker carlson

in fact i am surprise hannity isn't running another behghazi story... but he can't at the moment for trumps ineptitude with the 4 soldiers killed in niger!

there is a reason why trump only ever does interviews with hannity, more "arselicking" than "hardhitting".....

OK, once again. Hannity done a piece on it, that is all. Go find the documents. If you think all is in order with $145 million for 20% of US uranium then we're done chatting really.

I think you'll find that it's 20% of UraniumOne, a Canadian company I believe, that mines Uranium and supplies some of that Uranium to the US. You really do need to check your facts. Try actually reading the link I posted earlier. You not agree with what it concludes but the actual facts are clearly stated in it.

You believe!!! , well thank God you joined the conversation. Telling me to check my facts.....lol.

It includes Australia, Canada, Kazakhstan, South Africa and the US.

Anything else to add?

It's a Canadian Company that supplies Uranium to the US. It may, and in fact does, supply Uranium to other countries to but that's totally irrelevant to your unfounded argument that Clinton was involved in some kind of corrupt deal that put the security of the US in jeopardy. Again, try actually reading the link I posted, all the relevant facts are in there, and try not to confuse the issues by bringing up totally irrelevant bits of information like Australia."

.

From what I've read on the hill, New York times, Washington post.

Clinton was involved in corruption, the FBI said they had "substantial evidence" of corruption by the Russians BEFORE Clinton and Obama signed off on the deal.

Then when you throw in stuff like bill Clinton getting 500,000 dollars for a speech from a Kremlin connected bank and hundreds of millions of dollars being funneled through the Clinton Foundation...... IT'S CORRUPTION

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well, if you start from the position that the Clinton's are corrupt then work backwards, I'd see how you'd arrive at that conclusion.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"I've read the link above and it can be summed up as Hillary Clinton did not have the power to veto the sale but the president did.

If anyone is interested in an alternative point of view from the people who have brought the Clinton cruption to light you can check out judicial watch on youtube and their website were they have purchased documents they received via a freedom of information request.

They also made a documentary called Clinton cash.

It's always a good idea to check facts from multiple sources.

What do you mean they "purchased documents they received via a FOIA"? A FOIA is free (or admin costs)

I meant published but it was changed by autocorrect I think."

Ah, that makes more sense, thanks for the clarification. I thought it might have been an auto correct, but couldn't figure out what you had meant.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well, if you start from the position that the Clinton's are corrupt then work backwards, I'd see how you'd arrive at that conclusion. "
.

Yes because it's just obvious that an able politician with the FBI telling them of substantial evidence of bribery, money laundering and kick backs at Russian state level would sign of on this deal thinking it was just dapper

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Like I said, makes perfect sense, provided you work backwards.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I mean, for a start, Clinton isn't being investigated for the alleged uranium deal, the Obama administration is the target if this particular waste of time.

They've also decided that Hilary Clinton's emails are due another raking over, because reasons.

Maybe that's how you got confused?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Like I said, makes perfect sense, provided you work backwards."
.

I leave backwards thinking to you, you seem to specialise in it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Basically Clinton didn't violate established protocol to stop a private company from selling to another private (Russian) company. Absolutely zero evidence she was even aware of the deal happening much less that she stepped in to exert any influence.

But, Mueller is going to be arresting the first person in the ongoing actual Russian case, and the Whitehouse is in full on distraction mode.

And, of course, what Trump tweets, we get regurgitated to us by others.

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

Manfort and Gates charged...breaking story

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Manfort and Gates charged...breaking story"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Basically Clinton didn't violate established protocol to stop a private company from selling to another private (Russian) company. Absolutely zero evidence she was even aware of the deal happening much less that she stepped in to exert any influence.

But, Mueller is going to be arresting the first person in the ongoing actual Russian case, and the Whitehouse is in full on distraction mode.

And, of course, what Trump tweets, we get regurgitated to us by others."

.

Arrested for tax evasion?...

So the evidence against trump is overwhelming? Yet for Clinton it's neither here nor there .

You do make me laugh

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes


"Basically Clinton didn't violate established protocol to stop a private company from selling to another private (Russian) company. Absolutely zero evidence she was even aware of the deal happening much less that she stepped in to exert any influence.

But, Mueller is going to be arresting the first person in the ongoing actual Russian case, and the Whitehouse is in full on distraction mode.

And, of course, what Trump tweets, we get regurgitated to us by others..

Arrested for tax evasion?...

So the evidence against trump is overwhelming? Yet for Clinton it's neither here nor there .

You do make me laugh"

You people keep talking about evidence against Hillary but than spectacularly fail to actually produce any that actually stands up to even the most cursory analysis. Show us some real evidence please.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Arrested for tax evasion?...

So the evidence against trump is overwhelming? Yet for Clinton it's neither here nor there .

You do make me laugh"

you might want to slow down there sickie.....

the other important thing to note: re manafort and gates is that the statue of limitations on some of these charges is 10 years..... which if they are going back as far as the 06/07 tax year means the statue on those would have run out tomorrow.....

so you could say some of these means they know they can get him on these and may be working on more whilst these are out there....

also as someone else said, he was the person who was in charge of the RNC convention committee.... and there were questions asked at the time when certain statements with regards to ukraine were removed from the platform

manafort was working for viktor yanakovich, who was the pro russia president who baulked on the us/nato/deal which sparked the war in ukraine...

oh... and he fled to moscow for assulym!!

also.... the current Ukrainian government have been alledging he had been money laundering for a while and he had denied it...

trump cant say he wasn't part of the team at the time... the conspiracy charge specifically says from 2006 thru to 2017!!!!!

manafort may have only been the top guy in the campaign for 4 months... but rick gates was there right the way thru the election and part of the inaugeration committee....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Basically Clinton didn't violate established protocol to stop a private company from selling to another private (Russian) company. Absolutely zero evidence she was even aware of the deal happening much less that she stepped in to exert any influence.

But, Mueller is going to be arresting the first person in the ongoing actual Russian case, and the Whitehouse is in full on distraction mode.

And, of course, what Trump tweets, we get regurgitated to us by others..

Arrested for tax evasion?...

So the evidence against trump is overwhelming? Yet for Clinton it's neither here nor there .

You do make me laugh"

The evidence against Trump is building.

The evidence against Clinton doesn't exist.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Basically Clinton didn't violate established protocol to stop a private company from selling to another private (Russian) company. Absolutely zero evidence she was even aware of the deal happening much less that she stepped in to exert any influence.

But, Mueller is going to be arresting the first person in the ongoing actual Russian case, and the Whitehouse is in full on distraction mode.

And, of course, what Trump tweets, we get regurgitated to us by others..

Arrested for tax evasion?...

So the evidence against trump is overwhelming? Yet for Clinton it's neither here nor there .

You do make me laugh

The evidence against Trump is building.

The evidence against Clinton doesn't exist."

.

#demonjohnsays

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Basically Clinton didn't violate established protocol to stop a private company from selling to another private (Russian) company. Absolutely zero evidence she was even aware of the deal happening much less that she stepped in to exert any influence.

But, Mueller is going to be arresting the first person in the ongoing actual Russian case, and the Whitehouse is in full on distraction mode.

And, of course, what Trump tweets, we get regurgitated to us by others..

Arrested for tax evasion?...

So the evidence against trump is overwhelming? Yet for Clinton it's neither here nor there .

You do make me laugh

You people keep talking about evidence against Hillary but than spectacularly fail to actually produce any that actually stands up to even the most cursory analysis. Show us some real evidence please.

"

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YOU PEOPLE? who the fuck is you people .

I simply stated that so far the evidence against trump is no greater than the evidence against Clinton....ie I suspect there both bent, although if history is anything to go by then none of them hardly ever face charges for wrong doing

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Basically Clinton didn't violate established protocol to stop a private company from selling to another private (Russian) company. Absolutely zero evidence she was even aware of the deal happening much less that she stepped in to exert any influence.

But, Mueller is going to be arresting the first person in the ongoing actual Russian case, and the Whitehouse is in full on distraction mode.

And, of course, what Trump tweets, we get regurgitated to us by others..

Arrested for tax evasion?...

So the evidence against trump is overwhelming? Yet for Clinton it's neither here nor there .

You do make me laugh

You people keep talking about evidence against Hillary but than spectacularly fail to actually produce any that actually stands up to even the most cursory analysis. Show us some real evidence please.

.

YOU PEOPLE? who the fuck is you people .

I simply stated that so far the evidence against trump is no greater than the evidence against Clinton....ie I suspect there both bent, although if history is anything to go by then none of them hardly ever face charges for wrong doing"

No one on Clinton's team has been charged, and no one had pleaded guilty.

On Trump's team, 3 have been charged and 1 has pleaded guilty.

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent

Manafort slapped with 12 charges, Papadopoulos has already pleaded guilty to lying to the Feds

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!"

And ignore that one has been fully investigated and nothing found, and the other is currently being investigated and charges are being brought. But other than that, totally the same

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Manafort slapped with 12 charges, Papadopoulos has already pleaded guilty to lying to the Feds"
.

Long time friend and business partner of John podesta.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!

And ignore that one has been fully investigated and nothing found, and the other is currently being investigated and charges are being brought. But other than that, totally the same "

.

That's because apart from Clinton there all still in power in their job, who they going to investigate, themselves

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Manafort slapped with 12 charges, Papadopoulos has already pleaded guilty to lying to the Feds.

Long time friend and business partner of John podesta.

"

And if John Podesta is indicted, then that will become relevant.

Until then, it's not relevant, is it?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!

And ignore that one has been fully investigated and nothing found, and the other is currently being investigated and charges are being brought. But other than that, totally the same .

That's because apart from Clinton there all still in power in their job, who they going to investigate, themselves "

Clinton was part of the Obama administration. The Obama administration is no longer in the White House. It's now the Trump administration in the White House, and its the people who put him there who are being charged.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!

And ignore that one has been fully investigated and nothing found, and the other is currently being investigated and charges are being brought. But other than that, totally the same .

That's because apart from Clinton there all still in power in their job, who they going to investigate, themselves

Clinton was part of the Obama administration. The Obama administration is no longer in the White House. It's now the Trump administration in the White House, and its the people who put him there who are being charged. "

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Some Civil servants don't change with the party.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Manafort slapped with 12 charges, Papadopoulos has already pleaded guilty to lying to the Feds.

Long time friend and business partner of John podesta.

And if John Podesta is indicted, then that will become relevant.

Until then, it's not relevant, is it?

"

.

Ok who paid for the trump dossier in the first place?... Is that relevant

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!

And ignore that one has been fully investigated and nothing found, and the other is currently being investigated and charges are being brought. But other than that, totally the same .

That's because apart from Clinton there all still in power in their job, who they going to investigate, themselves

Clinton was part of the Obama administration. The Obama administration is no longer in the White House. It's now the Trump administration in the White House, and its the people who put him there who are being charged. .

Some Civil servants don't change with the party."

Not many change in the UK, in the US however, there are more than 6,000 appointments within the administration.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!

And ignore that one has been fully investigated and nothing found, and the other is currently being investigated and charges are being brought. But other than that, totally the same .

That's because apart from Clinton there all still in power in their job, who they going to investigate, themselves

Clinton was part of the Obama administration. The Obama administration is no longer in the White House. It's now the Trump administration in the White House, and its the people who put him there who are being charged. "

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The people who put him there was the millions of Americans who voted for him

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Manafort slapped with 12 charges, Papadopoulos has already pleaded guilty to lying to the Feds.

Long time friend and business partner of John podesta.

And if John Podesta is indicted, then that will become relevant.

Until then, it's not relevant, is it?

.

Ok who paid for the trump dossier in the first place?... Is that relevant"

The GOP!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Manafort slapped with 12 charges, Papadopoulos has already pleaded guilty to lying to the Feds.

Long time friend and business partner of John podesta.

And if John Podesta is indicted, then that will become relevant.

Until then, it's not relevant, is it?

.

Ok who paid for the trump dossier in the first place?... Is that relevant

The GOP! "

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Close but not quite

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!

And ignore that one has been fully investigated and nothing found, and the other is currently being investigated and charges are being brought. But other than that, totally the same .

That's because apart from Clinton there all still in power in their job, who they going to investigate, themselves

Clinton was part of the Obama administration. The Obama administration is no longer in the White House. It's now the Trump administration in the White House, and its the people who put him there who are being charged. .

The people who put him there was the millions of Americans who voted for him"

No, if you want to get technical about it, the electoral college put him there. After all, he lost the popular vote by about 3,000,000 votes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!

And ignore that one has been fully investigated and nothing found, and the other is currently being investigated and charges are being brought. But other than that, totally the same .

That's because apart from Clinton there all still in power in their job, who they going to investigate, themselves

Clinton was part of the Obama administration. The Obama administration is no longer in the White House. It's now the Trump administration in the White House, and its the people who put him there who are being charged. .

The people who put him there was the millions of Americans who voted for him

No, if you want to get technical about it, the electoral college put him there. After all, he lost the popular vote by about 3,000,000 votes. "

.

Oh so are they being investigated as well

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"But if we ignore all that, they're both the same!

And ignore that one has been fully investigated and nothing found, and the other is currently being investigated and charges are being brought. But other than that, totally the same .

That's because apart from Clinton there all still in power in their job, who they going to investigate, themselves

Clinton was part of the Obama administration. The Obama administration is no longer in the White House. It's now the Trump administration in the White House, and its the people who put him there who are being charged. .

The people who put him there was the millions of Americans who voted for him

No, if you want to get technical about it, the electoral college put him there. After all, he lost the popular vote by about 3,000,000 votes. .

Oh so are they being investigated as well "

The Mueller investigation hasn't released the names of those being investigated.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

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Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides"

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! "

.

That's inflation for yer

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By *nleashedCrakenMan  over a year ago

Widnes

I have to admit that I personally am not a great fan of the Clintons and could never have imagined voting for either of them. In fact I campaigned against Bill when he stood against G. Bush Snr in 1992. However that was because I didn't agree with his politics, and that was the only reason.

Whilst in the intervening years I have seen and heard things that make me question the character of both Bill and Hillary I've not seen anything that actually proves, even on a balance of probabilities, that they have done anything illegal. On the other hand, in less than two years, I have seen and heard enough about Trump, some of it from his own mouth, to believe that this is a man who totally lacks any form of integrity, honestly or decency. My gut feelings about both Trump and the Clintons seems to be being proved right by the actions either being taken or not taken by those who have looked more closely into both than any of us on this site could ever possibly hope to do.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I have to admit that I personally am not a great fan of the Clintons and could never have imagined voting for either of them. In fact I campaigned against Bill when he stood against G. Bush Snr in 1992. However that was because I didn't agree with his politics, and that was the only reason.

Whilst in the intervening years I have seen and heard things that make me question the character of both Bill and Hillary I've not seen anything that actually proves, even on a balance of probabilities, that they have done anything illegal. On the other hand, in less than two years, I have seen and heard enough about Trump, some of it from his own mouth, to believe that this is a man who totally lacks any form of integrity, honestly or decency. My gut feelings about both Trump and the Clintons seems to be being proved right by the actions either being taken or not taken by those who have looked more closely into both than any of us on this site could ever possibly hope to do."

.

Whereas the honest Bernie Sanders got shafted by his own party and the media like MSNBC and CNN who ran coverage of empty trump podiums instead of Sanders with 50,000 people at his!.

Swindled by the DNC on umpteen occasions to insist on getting the candidate they want not who the people want, this attack on "alternative media" is not just against conservatives it's on progressives as well...... THAT is the real political scandal.

It's the shutting down of dissecting voices to anything and everything that's not the narrative of the establishment

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Rachel maddow spent months going on about trump and Russia.... But the folks in flint don't give a shit, they want water they can drink, they wanted it fixing under Obama, they still want it fixing under trump....I suspect they'll still be waiting for it to be fixed under whoever's next while turning in the news to see how bad this Russia shit is

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

"

Yeah, poor old Bernie.

Ran a shit primary campaign and lost, but that's everyone's fault but his.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Everything about this fusion GPS scandal is so absurd.

It can't even be phrased as an attack that can maintain any semblance of coherence.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everything about this fusion GPS scandal is so absurd.

It can't even be phrased as an attack that can maintain any semblance of coherence."

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That's funny because that's the FBIs main case on Donald trump, the FBI even paid the British agent to keep the info coming

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

Yeah, poor old Bernie.

Ran a shit primary campaign and lost, but that's everyone's fault but his.

"

.

Well actually he attracted more people than Clinton and trump combined to his primaries was given far less air time than both despite that, was illegally swindled from money by the DNC and Debbie Shultz almost caused a riot by denying a vote...but yes poor old Bernie

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everything about this fusion GPS scandal is so absurd.

It can't even be phrased as an attack that can maintain any semblance of coherence..

That's funny because that's the FBIs main case on Donald trump, the FBI even paid the British agent to keep the info coming"

The FBI's main case on Donald Trump is that "the DNC swindled 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump"?

Do you want to try that again?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

Yeah, poor old Bernie.

Ran a shit primary campaign and lost, but that's everyone's fault but his.

.

Well actually he attracted more people than Clinton and trump combined to his primaries was given far less air time than both despite that, was illegally swindled from money by the DNC and Debbie Shultz almost caused a riot by denying a vote...but yes poor old Bernie "

And despite being so amazing, he couldn't turn that into primary wins, could he?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are several documentries abut how corruot the clintons are.

clinton cash

The hillary files

The clinton cronicles

Hilaries america

After watching those you'd have to be completely brain dead or brainwashed to not believe the Clintons are probably the most corrupt politicians in US history.

And all of these were made before most of the recent scandals have resurfaced.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are several documentries abut how corruot the clintons are.

clinton cash

The hillary files

The clinton cronicles

Hilaries america

After watching those you'd have to be completely brain dead or brainwashed to not believe the Clintons are probably the most corrupt politicians in US history.

And all of these were made before most of the recent scandals have resurfaced."

There's plenty of 'documentaries' about how bigfoot is real, too.

And they're both made for the same reason, to tell people what they already believe to be true.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everything about this fusion GPS scandal is so absurd.

It can't even be phrased as an attack that can maintain any semblance of coherence..

That's funny because that's the FBIs main case on Donald trump, the FBI even paid the British agent to keep the info coming

The FBI's main case on Donald Trump is that "the DNC swindled 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump"?

Do you want to try that again?"

.

No

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

Yeah, poor old Bernie.

Ran a shit primary campaign and lost, but that's everyone's fault but his.

.

Well actually he attracted more people than Clinton and trump combined to his primaries was given far less air time than both despite that, was illegally swindled from money by the DNC and Debbie Shultz almost caused a riot by denying a vote...but yes poor old Bernie

And despite being so amazing, he couldn't turn that into primary wins, could he?"

.

Well no, despite what the DNC did to him he turned into very good wins

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

Yeah, poor old Bernie.

Ran a shit primary campaign and lost, but that's everyone's fault but his.

.

Well actually he attracted more people than Clinton and trump combined to his primaries was given far less air time than both despite that, was illegally swindled from money by the DNC and Debbie Shultz almost caused a riot by denying a vote...but yes poor old Bernie

And despite being so amazing, he couldn't turn that into primary wins, could he?.

Well no, despite what the DNC did to him he turned into very good wins"

Ahh, yes, these wins that led to him conceding to his opponent before the democratic national convention.

Classic winning move, there.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everything about this fusion GPS scandal is so absurd.

It can't even be phrased as an attack that can maintain any semblance of coherence..

That's funny because that's the FBIs main case on Donald trump, the FBI even paid the British agent to keep the info coming

The FBI's main case on Donald Trump is that "the DNC swindled 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump"?

Do you want to try that again?.

No"

Didn't think so.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Everything about this fusion GPS scandal is so absurd.

It can't even be phrased as an attack that can maintain any semblance of coherence..

That's funny because that's the FBIs main case on Donald trump, the FBI even paid the British agent to keep the info coming

The FBI's main case on Donald Trump is that "the DNC swindled 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump"?

Do you want to try that again?.

No

Didn't think so."

.

What's the point in typing anything to you?... Your not here for anything other than a troll.

Back under that bridge with you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Of course, everyone who doesn't agree with you is a troll.

How novel.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"I have to admit that I personally am not a great fan of the Clintons and could never have imagined voting for either of them. In fact I campaigned against Bill when he stood against G. Bush Snr in 1992. However that was because I didn't agree with his politics, and that was the only reason.

Whilst in the intervening years I have seen and heard things that make me question the character of both Bill and Hillary I've not seen anything that actually proves, even on a balance of probabilities, that they have done anything illegal. On the other hand, in less than two years, I have seen and heard enough about Trump, some of it from his own mouth, to believe that this is a man who totally lacks any form of integrity, honestly or decency. My gut feelings about both Trump and the Clintons seems to be being proved right by the actions either being taken or not taken by those who have looked more closely into both than any of us on this site could ever possibly hope to do..

Whereas the honest Bernie Sanders got shafted by his own party and the media like MSNBC and CNN who ran coverage of empty trump podiums instead of Sanders with 50,000 people at his!.

Swindled by the DNC on umpteen occasions to insist on getting the candidate they want not who the people want, this attack on "alternative media" is not just against conservatives it's on progressives as well...... THAT is the real political scandal.

It's the shutting down of dissecting voices to anything and everything that's not the narrative of the establishment"

But the party members voted in the democratic primary, right?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"There are several documentries abut how corruot the clintons are.

clinton cash

The hillary files

The clinton cronicles

Hilaries america

After watching those you'd have to be completely brain dead or brainwashed to not believe the Clintons are probably the most corrupt politicians in US history.

And all of these were made before most of the recent scandals have resurfaced."

given the level of such corruption one must wonder at the incompetence of the law enforcement agencies in not picking up on this..

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer "

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"There are several documentries abut how corruot the clintons are.

clinton cash

The hillary files

The clinton cronicles

Hilaries america

After watching those you'd have to be completely brain dead or brainwashed to not believe the Clintons are probably the most corrupt politicians in US history.

And all of these were made before most of the recent scandals have resurfaced.

given the level of such corruption one must wonder at the incompetence of the law enforcement agencies in not picking up on this..

"

Maybe the FBI should stop wasting their time looking at evidence and watch the documentaries.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Maybe the FBI should stop wasting their time looking at evidence and watch the documentaries. "

indeed

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

See no evil hear no evil speak no evil.... But don't worry, you won't get trump or brexit or any shit at all.

It will be just dandy

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

"

Did they take out a loan for the other $124m?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are several documentries abut how corruot the clintons are.

clinton cash

The hillary files

The clinton cronicles

Hilaries america

After watching those you'd have to be completely brain dead or brainwashed to not believe the Clintons are probably the most corrupt politicians in US history.

And all of these were made before most of the recent scandals have resurfaced.

given the level of such corruption one must wonder at the incompetence of the law enforcement agencies in not picking up on this..

Maybe the FBI should stop wasting their time looking at evidence and watch the documentaries. "

When the person in charge of the FBI is involved in the corruption it's hard for the people below him to do there job and not get fired or worse.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

Did they take out a loan for the other $124m?"

No one knows how much the Clinton foundation raised because they don't have to declare it.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston


"I simply stated that so far the evidence against trump is no greater than the evidence against Clinton....ie I suspect there both bent, although if history is anything to go by then none of them hardly ever face charges for wrong doing"

But you are wrong. If what I am reading from unbiased sources is correct.

Neither Clinton or Obama did anything wrong. The deal which allowed a private (Russian owned) company buy a private (Canadian owned) company was totally above board and the deal was examined by numerous Federal Agencies that all cleared it. What Obama and Clinton did was not break with precedent and block the deal.

On the other hand we have Trump, who publicly asked the Russians to hack the Democrats and Clinton and publish their email. We have Junior, Kushner and others taking a meeting in the hope of getting Russian dirt with a Russian layer, former spy and others who said they could help. You have Trump inviting the Russian ambassador and chief spymaster in the USA into the Oval office where he passed on highly secret information of an ally that had been shared with the USA to the Russians. And finally you have Trump refusing to act on a bill congress passed unanimously and forced him to sign increasing sanctions on Russia although he was legally required to enforce the law no later than the 1st October.

There is only one story of Russian collusion and that is Trump has been laundering money for the Russian mob and Russian oligarchs for years and now he is Putin and the FSB's bitch.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that? "

I think Trump likes her really

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

I know you probably have little time for CNN, but the first 10 mins of this report by Anderson Cooper is very interesting and explains much.

https://youtu.be/9m-x9S_KZY0

Watch/listen to it.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

Did they take out a loan for the other $124m?

No one knows how much the Clinton foundation raised because they don't have to declare it.

"

We know how much the DNC raised. They raised $76m. Sick boi says that the DNC paid $200m for the dossier, so where did they get the money?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Well you have a republican President, a Republican AG, Republican Senate, a Republican House, a Republican SCOTUS etc. Yet Hilary Clinton hasn't been arrested.

Why is that? I think Trump likes her really "

It could be that Mr Suit! Or, or, just possibly, there is no evidence she did anything wrong?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"There are several documentries abut how corruot the clintons are.

clinton cash

The hillary files

The clinton cronicles

Hilaries america

After watching those you'd have to be completely brain dead or brainwashed to not believe the Clintons are probably the most corrupt politicians in US history.

And all of these were made before most of the recent scandals have resurfaced.

given the level of such corruption one must wonder at the incompetence of the law enforcement agencies in not picking up on this..

Maybe the FBI should stop wasting their time looking at evidence and watch the documentaries.

When the person in charge of the FBI is involved in the corruption it's hard for the people below him to do there job and not get fired or worse.

"

You know Trump can appoint a new director of the FBI, right?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

who knew.... manafort apparently had 3 different us passports with 3 different numbers on them... and had applied for 10 passports over the last 10 years.... and had travelled across the world on fake names....

hello.... shady?????

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There are several documentries abut how corruot the clintons are.

clinton cash

The hillary files

The clinton cronicles

Hilaries america

After watching those you'd have to be completely brain dead or brainwashed to not believe the Clintons are probably the most corrupt politicians in US history.

And all of these were made before most of the recent scandals have resurfaced.

given the level of such corruption one must wonder at the incompetence of the law enforcement agencies in not picking up on this..

Maybe the FBI should stop wasting their time looking at evidence and watch the documentaries.

When the person in charge of the FBI is involved in the corruption it's hard for the people below him to do there job and not get fired or worse.

You know Trump can appoint a new director of the FBI, right? "

He fired comey and the new director is Christopher A. Wray but the whole structure of the deep state is still in place.

I have watched both sides of the story and in my opinion judicial watch, George webb, victoria toensing.

CNN is obviously reporting to Democrats and fox news to Republicans but very little facts are coming out on either channel so it is better to go to the source of the material.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

Did they take out a loan for the other $124m?

No one knows how much the Clinton foundation raised because they don't have to declare it.

We know how much the DNC raised. They raised $76m. Sick boi says that the DNC paid $200m for the dossier, so where did they get the money?"

.

No your just falling into your old habits of making things up and twisting what people say.

I said they swindled him out of 200 million dollars which is the extra money he could have raised for his campaign if the DNC hadn't been completely corrupt in their favour of Hillary Clinton.

I believe the figure the DNC and Clinton paid out for the dossier on trump was 12 million dollars, from what I've read they paid an ex British secret agent Christopher Steele? To pay out money to Russian state employees, ex KGB, Russian media, Russian politicians to "get dirt" on trump collusion, they then said that Russia hacked their servers and passed on genuine shit the DNC and Clinton have done to Wikileaks in an attempt to get favour for trump??

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

Did they take out a loan for the other $124m?

No one knows how much the Clinton foundation raised because they don't have to declare it.

We know how much the DNC raised. They raised $76m. Sick boi says that the DNC paid $200m for the dossier, so where did they get the money?.

No your just falling into your old habits of making things up and twisting what people say.

I said they swindled him out of 200 million dollars which is the extra money he could have raised for his campaign if the DNC hadn't been completely corrupt in their favour of Hillary Clinton.

I believe the figure the DNC and Clinton paid out for the dossier on trump was 12 million dollars, from what I've read they paid an ex British secret agent Christopher Steele? To pay out money to Russian state employees, ex KGB, Russian media, Russian politicians to "get dirt" on trump collusion, they then said that Russia hacked their servers and passed on genuine shit the DNC and Clinton have done to Wikileaks in an attempt to get favour for trump??"

You said spent "it" the "it" being $200m on hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald Trump. If the DNC raised $76m, where are even getting this figure of $200m?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

Did they take out a loan for the other $124m?

No one knows how much the Clinton foundation raised because they don't have to declare it.

We know how much the DNC raised. They raised $76m. Sick boi says that the DNC paid $200m for the dossier, so where did they get the money?.

No your just falling into your old habits of making things up and twisting what people say.

I said they swindled him out of 200 million dollars which is the extra money he could have raised for his campaign if the DNC hadn't been completely corrupt in their favour of Hillary Clinton.

I believe the figure the DNC and Clinton paid out for the dossier on trump was 12 million dollars, from what I've read they paid an ex British secret agent Christopher Steele? To pay out money to Russian state employees, ex KGB, Russian media, Russian politicians to "get dirt" on trump collusion, they then said that Russia hacked their servers and passed on genuine shit the DNC and Clinton have done to Wikileaks in an attempt to get favour for trump??

You said spent "it" the "it" being $200m on hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald Trump. If the DNC raised $76m, where are even getting this figure of $200m? "

.

I've just wrote what I wanted to clarify for your sake....

Read back what I wrote!!!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

The democrats are accusing Trump of Russian collusion.

But the main stream media who is mainly supporting the democrats isn't mentioning anything about the awan scandal, bernie sanders being conned out of the nomination, whitewater scandal, the Clinton misterious deaths, the Clinton foundation not giving hardly any of the money it raises to people in need, bill Clintons pardons, how the Clintons used the IRS against opposition as a weapon, the uranium one deal, lying when being questioned, pizza gate, mishandling of classified documents.

Out of all of these I think the awan brothers will be the thing that brings down the democrats.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

You know Trump can appoint a new director of the FBI, right?

He fired comey and the new director is Christopher A. Wray but the whole structure of the deep state is still in place.

"

any potential appoints to top jobs in the FBI/CIA for example still have to go thru the senate judicary committee before being voted on the entire senate.... and these tend to be bipartisan appointments!!

anyway the senate committee have made it perfectly clear they will not stand for any sackings because they will not confirm the replacements! which is why moeller and jeff sessions are untouchable at the moment.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

according the the FT, this story has created a backlash from web-wierdos that has increased the stock value of bacofoil over the last week

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

Did they take out a loan for the other $124m?

No one knows how much the Clinton foundation raised because they don't have to declare it.

We know how much the DNC raised. They raised $76m. Sick boi says that the DNC paid $200m for the dossier, so where did they get the money?.

No your just falling into your old habits of making things up and twisting what people say.

I said they swindled him out of 200 million dollars which is the extra money he could have raised for his campaign if the DNC hadn't been completely corrupt in their favour of Hillary Clinton.

I believe the figure the DNC and Clinton paid out for the dossier on trump was 12 million dollars, from what I've read they paid an ex British secret agent Christopher Steele? To pay out money to Russian state employees, ex KGB, Russian media, Russian politicians to "get dirt" on trump collusion, they then said that Russia hacked their servers and passed on genuine shit the DNC and Clinton have done to Wikileaks in an attempt to get favour for trump??

You said spent "it" the "it" being $200m on hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald Trump. If the DNC raised $76m, where are even getting this figure of $200m? .

I've just wrote what I wanted to clarify for your sake....

Read back what I wrote!!!

"

Yeah, I've read your bullshit lies that you think the DNC spent $200m on a dossier. Like I pointed out, thats more than $120m more than they raised. To pay that they wouldn't have been able rent a campaign office, print a leaflet, set up a phone line, pay for an advert, or campaign in anyway at all. Then borrow $120m+.

That is total bullshit.

You sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist, and now that I have shone a spotlight on your rubbish you are trying to backtrack and change your story, even when myself and another poster asked you if you were sure about your claim and both times you said you were.

Out of interest, you may wish to look into the press release from right wing news site Free Beacon have confirmed that they were the ones who hired GPS Fusion for info on the republican candidates.

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"The democrats are accusing Trump of Russian collusion.

But the main stream media who is mainly supporting the democrats isn't mentioning anything about the awan scandal, bernie sanders being conned out of the nomination, whitewater scandal, the Clinton misterious deaths, the Clinton foundation not giving hardly any of the money it raises to people in need, bill Clintons pardons, how the Clintons used the IRS against opposition as a weapon, the uranium one deal, lying when being questioned, pizza gate, mishandling of classified documents.

Out of all of these I think the awan brothers will be the thing that brings down the democrats. "

You have no idea what your talking about and are just parroting talking points from people desperately trying to distract from the Russia story.

Pizzagate was psycho drivel made up from nothing on 4chan and reddit. It literally came about because Podesta talked about getting pizza in an email.

Whitewater was a scandal from nearly 30 years ago that has had 3 different investigations that showed no illegal behaviour on the part of the Clintons. This was hugely covered at the time because it was actually happening. Im not sure why youre outraged that a comcluded 30 year old story that made huge headlines at the time isnt getting covered today.

And you think the Awan thing is going to bring down the democrats? It would be charitable to call this delusional. 2 dozen democrats sacked him and everyone associated with him when they were under investigation, one waited until charges were formerly brought. Thats the entire controversey, that she didnt sack him sooner.

In ACTUAL news it appears Jeff Sessions has perjured himself by claiming he didnt know about any contact between Trumps campaign and Russia as 2 people have confirmed his presence in a meeting where he argued against it.

So far his campaign manager, his attorney general, his son and son in law have all been implicated in meeting with the Russians in an attempt to sway the election. The noose is tightening.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The democrats are accusing Trump of Russian collusion.

But the main stream media who is mainly supporting the democrats isn't mentioning anything about the awan scandal, bernie sanders being conned out of the nomination, whitewater scandal, the Clinton misterious deaths, the Clinton foundation not giving hardly any of the money it raises to people in need, bill Clintons pardons, how the Clintons used the IRS against opposition as a weapon, the uranium one deal, lying when being questioned, pizza gate, mishandling of classified documents.

Out of all of these I think the awan brothers will be the thing that brings down the democrats. "

Let's take one of those conspiracy theories you have mentioned. Pizza Gate. Do you honestly believe that Hilary Clinton is running a child sex ring in a pizza shop?

You know an armed civilian went there looking for the children, he couldn't find it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

Did they take out a loan for the other $124m?

No one knows how much the Clinton foundation raised because they don't have to declare it.

We know how much the DNC raised. They raised $76m. Sick boi says that the DNC paid $200m for the dossier, so where did they get the money?.

No your just falling into your old habits of making things up and twisting what people say.

I said they swindled him out of 200 million dollars which is the extra money he could have raised for his campaign if the DNC hadn't been completely corrupt in their favour of Hillary Clinton.

I believe the figure the DNC and Clinton paid out for the dossier on trump was 12 million dollars, from what I've read they paid an ex British secret agent Christopher Steele? To pay out money to Russian state employees, ex KGB, Russian media, Russian politicians to "get dirt" on trump collusion, they then said that Russia hacked their servers and passed on genuine shit the DNC and Clinton have done to Wikileaks in an attempt to get favour for trump??

You said spent "it" the "it" being $200m on hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald Trump. If the DNC raised $76m, where are even getting this figure of $200m? .

I've just wrote what I wanted to clarify for your sake....

Read back what I wrote!!!

Yeah, I've read your bullshit lies that you think the DNC spent $200m on a dossier. Like I pointed out, thats more than $120m more than they raised. To pay that they wouldn't have been able rent a campaign office, print a leaflet, set up a phone line, pay for an advert, or campaign in anyway at all. Then borrow $120m+.

That is total bullshit.

You sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist, and now that I have shone a spotlight on your rubbish you are trying to backtrack and change your story, even when myself and another poster asked you if you were sure about your claim and both times you said you were.

Out of interest, you may wish to look into the press release from right wing news site Free Beacon have confirmed that they were the ones who hired GPS Fusion for info on the republican candidates."

.

A conspiracy theorist? .

I read the story in the Washington post FFS .

Free beacon did hire them at first but later the DNC took up the mantle, they pretty much admitted it at first but back tracked later when they realised it was actually against political funding rules...(slush fund in the opposition mmmm sounds familiar).

I can feel another "gate" coming on

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"The democrats are accusing Trump of Russian collusion.

But the main stream media who is mainly supporting the democrats isn't mentioning anything about the awan scandal, bernie sanders being conned out of the nomination, whitewater scandal, the Clinton misterious deaths, the Clinton foundation not giving hardly any of the money it raises to people in need, bill Clintons pardons, how the Clintons used the IRS against opposition as a weapon, the uranium one deal, lying when being questioned, pizza gate, mishandling of classified documents.

Out of all of these I think the awan brothers will be the thing that brings down the democrats.

You have no idea what your talking about and are just parroting talking points from people desperately trying to distract from the Russia story.

Pizzagate was psycho drivel made up from nothing on 4chan and reddit. It literally came about because Podesta talked about getting pizza in an email.

Whitewater was a scandal from nearly 30 years ago that has had 3 different investigations that showed no illegal behaviour on the part of the Clintons. This was hugely covered at the time because it was actually happening. Im not sure why youre outraged that a comcluded 30 year old story that made huge headlines at the time isnt getting covered today.

And you think the Awan thing is going to bring down the democrats? It would be charitable to call this delusional. 2 dozen democrats sacked him and everyone associated with him when they were under investigation, one waited until charges were formerly brought. Thats the entire controversey, that she didnt sack him sooner.

In ACTUAL news it appears Jeff Sessions has perjured himself by claiming he didnt know about any contact between Trumps campaign and Russia as 2 people have confirmed his presence in a meeting where he argued against it.

So far his campaign manager, his attorney general, his son and son in law have all been implicated in meeting with the Russians in an attempt to sway the election. The noose is tightening."

.

Not true, the whitewater investigation eventually after a few years lead to Bill Clintons sexual assaults on his intern with a cigar.... No wonder the Clinton's liked the support of Harvey Weinstein

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"The democrats are accusing Trump of Russian collusion.

But the main stream media who is mainly supporting the democrats isn't mentioning anything about the awan scandal, bernie sanders being conned out of the nomination, whitewater scandal, the Clinton misterious deaths, the Clinton foundation not giving hardly any of the money it raises to people in need, bill Clintons pardons, how the Clintons used the IRS against opposition as a weapon, the uranium one deal, lying when being questioned, pizza gate, mishandling of classified documents.

Out of all of these I think the awan brothers will be the thing that brings down the democrats.

You have no idea what your talking about and are just parroting talking points from people desperately trying to distract from the Russia story.

Pizzagate was psycho drivel made up from nothing on 4chan and reddit. It literally came about because Podesta talked about getting pizza in an email.

Whitewater was a scandal from nearly 30 years ago that has had 3 different investigations that showed no illegal behaviour on the part of the Clintons. This was hugely covered at the time because it was actually happening. Im not sure why youre outraged that a comcluded 30 year old story that made huge headlines at the time isnt getting covered today.

And you think the Awan thing is going to bring down the democrats? It would be charitable to call this delusional. 2 dozen democrats sacked him and everyone associated with him when they were under investigation, one waited until charges were formerly brought. Thats the entire controversey, that she didnt sack him sooner.

In ACTUAL news it appears Jeff Sessions has perjured himself by claiming he didnt know about any contact between Trumps campaign and Russia as 2 people have confirmed his presence in a meeting where he argued against it.

So far his campaign manager, his attorney general, his son and son in law have all been implicated in meeting with the Russians in an attempt to sway the election. The noose is tightening..

Not true, the whitewater investigation eventually after a few years lead to Bill Clintons sexual assaults on his intern with a cigar.... No wonder the Clinton's liked the support of Harvey Weinstein"

....have a read back over what you wrote and see if theres anything even resembling logic in there.

I said nobodies talking about Whitewater because its 30 year old, well covered news. And that it led to no findings of illegality on the Clintons part. And you say its not true because of a completely different and unrelated act of wrongdoing? While Ken Starr investigated both (as well as other issues at the time) they were still 2 completely seperate issues and investigations.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Does this thread mean the site owners have to go to US senate to explain how Russian Bots are now swingers?

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental

So that's that then, Hillary Clinton is an angel in disguise. However, a little point still bugs me, why were mobile phones destroyed and some small amount of emails, what was it 30000! Erased?

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

According to the Telegraph, Russia are targeting Nationalist groups around the world, and Scotland and Spain are targets!

Today's fake news is yesterday's atom bomb!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Does this thread mean the site owners have to go to US senate to explain how Russian Bots are now swingers?"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So that's that then, Hillary Clinton is an angel in disguise. However, a little point still bugs me, why were mobile phones destroyed and some small amount of emails, what was it 30000! Erased? "

Never said Hillary was an angel.

Mueller is playing a deep game, but his brief is to investigate the Trump campaign.

So by going after Manafort, I reckon he will go after Podesta.

So therefore he will be able to investigate Hillary's campaign that way.

Then when he proves all lobbyists are crooks, both sides are correct... collusion.

Trump gets impeached, then the Americans will clean up and possibly start of new cold war as Russians will not drop opposition to countries who implement the Magnitsky Act.

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By *uxinteriorMan  over a year ago

south west , continental

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"So that's that then, Hillary Clinton is an angel in disguise. However, a little point still bugs me, why were mobile phones destroyed and some small amount of emails, what was it 30000! Erased? "

Interesting tactic, one used by a lot of Russian trolls in fact. Hillarys either terrible or an angel and nothing in between. Youve been reading too much Russian propaganda over corn flakes!

The emails,whitewater and whatever she did wrong in pre school arent relevant to this discussion. Theres no evidence that Clintons campaign colluded with Russia. There is evidence that Trumps campaign, at the highest levels, was colluding.

Bringing up Hillary is just a distraction tactic, a lazy, overused and irrelevant one. The Trump campaign is guilty, either defend or condemn them for it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So that's that then, Hillary Clinton is an angel in disguise. However, a little point still bugs me, why were mobile phones destroyed and some small amount of emails, what was it 30000! Erased?

Interesting tactic, one used by a lot of Russian trolls in fact. Hillarys either terrible or an angel and nothing in between. Youve been reading too much Russian propaganda over corn flakes!

The emails,whitewater and whatever she did wrong in pre school arent relevant to this discussion. Theres no evidence that Clintons campaign colluded with Russia. There is evidence that Trumps campaign, at the highest levels, was colluding.

Bringing up Hillary is just a distraction tactic, a lazy, overused and irrelevant one. The Trump campaign is guilty, either defend or condemn them for it."

Or they just leg it...

https://youtu.be/Ibf4GXUZpLA

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By *or Fox SakeCouple  over a year ago

Thornaby

The Golden Rule

Don't even assume that a Trump fan knows what they are on about, they don't.

At a guess (educated) most Trump fans deny climate change, think homosexuality is wrong, and struggle to tie their own shoelaces.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"The scandal is the one where the DNC swindle 200 million dollars from Bernie Sanders and spend it hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald trump which they get by hiring a British secret service agent who gets his "evidence" from Russian sources.

.

.

Get fucking real, politics is corrupt to the fucking core on both sides

Wow, I need to get into the dossier writing business at $200,000,000 a pop! .

That's inflation for yer

The DNC raised $76m in 2016, you really believe that they spent $200m on 1 dossier on trump?

Did they take out a loan for the other $124m?

No one knows how much the Clinton foundation raised because they don't have to declare it.

We know how much the DNC raised. They raised $76m. Sick boi says that the DNC paid $200m for the dossier, so where did they get the money?.

No your just falling into your old habits of making things up and twisting what people say.

I said they swindled him out of 200 million dollars which is the extra money he could have raised for his campaign if the DNC hadn't been completely corrupt in their favour of Hillary Clinton.

I believe the figure the DNC and Clinton paid out for the dossier on trump was 12 million dollars, from what I've read they paid an ex British secret agent Christopher Steele? To pay out money to Russian state employees, ex KGB, Russian media, Russian politicians to "get dirt" on trump collusion, they then said that Russia hacked their servers and passed on genuine shit the DNC and Clinton have done to Wikileaks in an attempt to get favour for trump??

You said spent "it" the "it" being $200m on hiring GPS to write a dossier on Donald Trump. If the DNC raised $76m, where are even getting this figure of $200m? .

I've just wrote what I wanted to clarify for your sake....

Read back what I wrote!!!

Yeah, I've read your bullshit lies that you think the DNC spent $200m on a dossier. Like I pointed out, thats more than $120m more than they raised. To pay that they wouldn't have been able rent a campaign office, print a leaflet, set up a phone line, pay for an advert, or campaign in anyway at all. Then borrow $120m+.

That is total bullshit.

You sound like a crazy conspiracy theorist, and now that I have shone a spotlight on your rubbish you are trying to backtrack and change your story, even when myself and another poster asked you if you were sure about your claim and both times you said you were.

Out of interest, you may wish to look into the press release from right wing news site Free Beacon have confirmed that they were the ones who hired GPS Fusion for info on the republican candidates..

A conspiracy theorist? .

I read the story in the Washington post FFS .

Free beacon did hire them at first but later the DNC took up the mantle, they pretty much admitted it at first but back tracked later when they realised it was actually against political funding rules...(slush fund in the opposition mmmm sounds familiar).

I can feel another "gate" coming on "

Ok, give us the link from the Post that says the DNC paid $200m for the dossier.

This should be great!

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" There is evidence that Trumps campaign, at the highest levels, was colluding.

Bringing up Hillary is just a distraction tactic, a lazy, overused and irrelevant one. The Trump campaign is guilty, either defend or condemn them for it."

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Of course there is, they even admitted it themselves, they paid 12 million dollars for a dossier on trump, the information of which was gathered by a ex British secret service man (foreigner) who paid out millions to Russian (foreigner) politicians, KGB, journalists..... The FBI have used the dossier for its investigation they also offered to pay the ex British secret service agent...

That's called colluding with foreigners to sway political outcome!.

Now it may well I agree be the type of collusion I or you like, hell I hope the DNC find any and all dirt on trump or the trump campaign,I don't mind who or how the dirt is released as long as it's relevant and true, that's why personally I had no problem with so called Hilary server hack, I'm not interested in how information is released just in what the information released shows.

Politics has been corrupt on all sides for far too long

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