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"European first English second. "Soon you will just be English... 
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"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first "Why that order? Do you just feel more swedish? Or did you make a conscious choice? | |||
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"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first
Why that order? Do you just feel more swedish? Or did you make a conscious choice?"Not sure, but yes, as I feel more swedish and grew up there. I mostly visited germany on holiday, so didnt spend so much time there, although stuttgart is a nice place. | |||
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"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first "Half German half Brit | |||
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"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first
Half German half Brit "Nice one, where abouts in germany are you from? | |||
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"I am swedish and half german, but swedish first
Half German half Brit Nice one, where abouts in germany are you from?"British born German family now mainly in Rhur area. However my mother was born in Prussia now Poland which is complicating "Plan B". | |||
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"I'm British. My parents were Irish (Dublin and Cork/Kerry border) I was born in Manchester and educated in UK and Ireland. I know I am not English, I am not Irish and have been told by many Irish I am English. I am British and proud of it!" . Similar only I was born in Ireland just on the border, n Irish/Irish parents but raised in Manchester, lived all over Britain but I'll always consider myself Mancunian first, English second, British third | |||
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"English British " Human , kind and empathic Beyond that is needless tribal labelling I feel it is sad that so many cannot form their own identity and need to adopt what will always be a backwards position of the default clichie that is attributed to their arbitrary place me birth X | |||
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"English British Human , kind and empathic Beyond that is needless tribal labelling I feel it is sad that so many cannot form their own identity and need to adopt what will always be a backwards position of the default clichie that is attributed to their arbitrary place me birth X" True. I should of put earthling but my cultural programming kicked in.. | |||
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"Yes a one world government is surely the answer "Its inevitable .However the "answer" lies in the stars. | |||
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"Nationality doesn't define anyone. If you want to be called British that's up to you and people should respect that. Flags are only symbols for "sybolmtons" (George Carlin). "Being born in a stable," the Duke of Wellington is supposed to have said, "does not make one a horse." Wellington, so the story goes, was rejecting the idea that the accident of his birth (in Ireland) would make him Irish. The point here is, we all eventually become what we perceive ourselves to be. " I would not agree with all of that, but certainly agree that we all eventually find where we belong provided we have the opportunity. The problem is that regardless of where we are born our early years are moulded in what ever way our parents choose for us, and that can change the whole course of our lives. | |||
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"Changed my mind lol I'm a teesider northerner English and British lol" And what exactly does giving yourself that fine number of relatively meaningless labels achieve ? Apart from giving the ignorant who like to stereotype data to abuse? | |||
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"Nationality doesn't define anyone. If you want to be called British that's up to you and people should respect that. Flags are only symbols for "sybolmtons" (George Carlin). "Being born in a stable," the Duke of Wellington is supposed to have said, "does not make one a horse." Wellington, so the story goes, was rejecting the idea that the accident of his birth (in Ireland) would make him Irish. The point here is, we all eventually become what we perceive ourselves to be. " That's all well and good but if someone gets into bother abroad you can guarantee they'll be looking for assistance from their local embassy, no matter who they perceive themselves to be | |||
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I like the idea of just being "human" but I do see a benefit in recognizing differences for the purpose of benefiting everyone (not for the purpose of discriminating). | |||
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"Changed my mind lol I'm a teesider northerner English and British lol And what exactly does giving yourself that fine number of relatively meaningless labels achieve ? Apart from giving the ignorant who like to stereotype data to abuse? " it achieves nothing it's just how I feel it's a light hearted comment keep your knickers on mate ffs | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british" Have you got a Scottish passport? | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? " What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself" Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders? | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders? "Ive already said scottish ,why | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why"Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done. | |||
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"international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done. " My passport used to say 'Government Service' Guaranteed I would be followed in many countries and refused entry to more! Of course there were son#me that the British Government refused me permission to visit... LoL | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done. "Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british "So you don't care that it says British on it? | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it? "Nope its only a document | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
Nope its only a document "And a passport proves who you are, right? | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
Nope its only a document
And a passport proves who you are, right? "It gives my name and dob | |||
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"I was thinking last night about why I am happy to be british rather, despite being born, bred and living in scotland. For me i wonder if its about dislike and disdain for being associated with my image of scotland. I would rather be seen as a British lady than a Scottish cow. How do you feel about your nationality? If you have a choice, do you feel the one you identify with is a choice?" I am British and proud of it | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it? "British ones will soon have "European union" removed from the front! | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it? "YAWN it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc. | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc. "now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain" | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain""What is your definition of a country? | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country? "why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions; again for the third time; please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY! | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY! "you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum here, I will help you; . Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
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Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"Your post is extremely contradictory. | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"Technically, Wales is a Principality. | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality."Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right. Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years. Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century. The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality.
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
"Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope. How about on the WTO? Nah. Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't. How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not! Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me! | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality.
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.
How about on the WTO? Nah.
Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.
How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!
Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me! "please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality.
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.
How about on the WTO? Nah.
Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.
How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!
Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France. | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality.
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.
How about on the WTO? Nah.
Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.
How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!
Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France. "I was told at school that the United Kindom was made up of 4 Countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, they come together as the UK for things such as NATO etc as they are united! The France comment...well it has regions, as does the countries of the uk with their counties. America works on the principal of States, hence United States, here it is countries that make a kindom. But am more amazed that after a guy, just stating his answer to a question, it started an argument about it that got this far  | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality.
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.
How about on the WTO? Nah.
Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.
How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!
Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.
I was told at school that the United Kindom was made up of 4 Countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, they come together as the UK for things such as NATO etc as they are united! The France comment...well it has regions, as does the countries of the uk with their counties. America works on the principal of States, hence United States, here it is countries that make a kindom. But am more amazed that after a guy, just stating his answer to a question, it started an argument about it that got this far "So what is your definition of a country then? | |||
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"CLCC would start an argument in an empty house then sticks a question on the end if someone describes themselves as Scottish and not British wots it got to do with you lol" be nice now, you have to remember its the only life he has living online but yes, true. | |||
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"CLCC would start an argument in an empty house then sticks a question on the end if someone describes themselves as Scottish and not British wots it got to do with you lol be nice now, you have to remember its the only life he has living online but yes, true." Dont lie, I'm about to go to Morrison's | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality.
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.
How about on the WTO? Nah.
Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.
How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!
Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.
I was told at school that the United Kindom was made up of 4 Countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, they come together as the UK for things such as NATO etc as they are united! The France comment...well it has regions, as does the countries of the uk with their counties. America works on the principal of States, hence United States, here it is countries that make a kindom. But am more amazed that after a guy, just stating his answer to a question, it started an argument about it that got this far " | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality.
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.
How about on the WTO? Nah.
Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.
How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!
Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.
I was told at school that the United Kindom was made up of 4 Countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, they come together as the UK for things such as NATO etc as they are united! The France comment...well it has regions, as does the countries of the uk with their counties. America works on the principal of States, hence United States, here it is countries that make a kindom. But am more amazed that after a guy, just stating his answer to a question, it started an argument about it that got this far
So what is your definition of a country then?"My definition of a country? I don't have one as I, mostly, don't really care for borders and their politics. I was just telling you what I was taught and that I am pretty amazed that one guys response to a forum question got you that miffed | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality.
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.
How about on the WTO? Nah.
Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.
How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!
Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.
I was told at school that the United Kindom was made up of 4 Countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, they come together as the UK for things such as NATO etc as they are united! The France comment...well it has regions, as does the countries of the uk with their counties. America works on the principal of States, hence United States, here it is countries that make a kindom. But am more amazed that after a guy, just stating his answer to a question, it started an argument about it that got this far
So what is your definition of a country then?
My definition of a country? I don't have one as I, mostly, don't really care for borders and their politics. I was just telling you what I was taught and that I am pretty amazed that one guys response to a forum question got you that miffed "It hasn't got me miffed, this is just how threads go in the politics forum. | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Technically, Wales is a Principality.
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
Does it have a seat at the UN? Nope.
How about on the WTO? Nah.
Does it have the ability to enter into international agreement? Uh, no. No it doesn't.
How about NATO, its a member of that right? Oops, no its not!
Hmmm, doesn't sound like a country to me!
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
None! The UK is the country! It's like asking what countries make up France.
I was told at school that the United Kindom was made up of 4 Countries, England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, they come together as the UK for things such as NATO etc as they are united! The France comment...well it has regions, as does the countries of the uk with their counties. America works on the principal of States, hence United States, here it is countries that make a kindom. But am more amazed that after a guy, just stating his answer to a question, it started an argument about it that got this far "You are correct the United Kingdom is made up of 4 Countries | |||
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"A country is a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. "So England isn't a country? | |||
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"England is a country that is part of the United Kingdom. CLCC you are just being silly and I will not reply to idiots. "It was your definition! You said "A country is a nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory". England does not have its own government, therefore England does not meet your definition of a country. Maybe someone else would like to put forward their definition? | |||
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"I'm going to guess a geographical political enitity recognized by the UN and by CLCC. "You see, now that's the kind of definition I can support! | |||
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"Are you stupid CLCC England is part of the United Kingdom of which Parliament is government idiot." Yes, it's part of the UK, and the UK is the country, not England. | |||
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"If the UK is a very good country what is Britain? " Bloody auto cawrong 
I meant if the UK is a country what is Britain? | |||
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"I'm going to guess a geographical political enitity recognized by the UN and by CLCC. "Google "what is a country" for the answer. | |||
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"The UK is a group of 4 countries not one. "So it has 4 seats at the UN? | |||
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"Countries that are not part of the UN are not countries, everyone knows that "What's your definition of a country? | |||
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"I would define it as a piece of land that has it's own border and flag. " Like California ? | |||
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"I would define it as a piece of land that has it's own border and flag. Like California ?" No like Cornwall. | |||
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"You can define a country however you choose, it just is a fact that 4 countries make up the UK - Google it!" Oi stop using logic it's been band in this country lol | |||
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"I would define it as a piece of land that has it's own border and flag. Like California ? No like Cornwall. "Well its got a flag, its got a border. Hang on, so has Cambridgeshire. Does that make it a country? Surely not. Right, so that's at least 2 definitions out the window as to what a country is. Maybe someone else can have a go? | |||
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"This definition is from the Oxford dictionary. A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. I have learnt something new today. The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States was a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26 1933. The convention set out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is Article 1, which set out four criteria for statehood, as quoted below. The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states. Article 3 of the Convention also declares that statehood is independent of recognition by other states, so a country can exist even if other countries don't recognize it. " I have refered to the Montevideo Convention previously. Do you want to apply those 4 tests to England, or should I? | |||
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"This definition is from the Oxford dictionary. A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. I have learnt something new today. The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States was a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26 1933. The convention set out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is Article 1, which set out four criteria for statehood, as quoted below. The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states. Article 3 of the Convention also declares that statehood is independent of recognition by other states, so a country can exist even if other countries don't recognize it. I have refered to the Montevideo Convention previously. Do you want to apply those 4 tests to England, or should I? " If you can apply them to california, yes | |||
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"This definition is from the Oxford dictionary. A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. I have learnt something new today. The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States was a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26 1933. The convention set out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is Article 1, which set out four criteria for statehood, as quoted below. The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states. Article 3 of the Convention also declares that statehood is independent of recognition by other states, so a country can exist even if other countries don't recognize it. I have refered to the Montevideo Convention previously. Do you want to apply those 4 tests to England, or should I? If you can apply them to california, yes "No, I we looked at how California met your criteria of a country as being a defined territory with a flag. We also applied this rule to Cambridgeshire and Cornwall and we found they all met your criteria, yet we all know they are not countries. But lets apply the Montevideo Convention to England. A) Yes, it has a permanent population. B) Yes, it has a defined territory. So far so good! C) a government? No, no English government that I am aware of. D) Capacity to enter into relations with other states, no, again going back to C, there is no government to direct any such agreements/relations. So unfortunately, England fails to meet the internationally established criteria for statehood. | |||
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"Im still scottish never ever british lol "May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ? | |||
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"Im still scottish never ever british lol
May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ?"depends, how much you like or dislike the English, Welsh n Irish and whether you wish to be associated with the majority of them | |||
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"Im still scottish never ever british lol
May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ?
depends, how much you like or dislike the English, Welsh n Irish and whether you wish to be associated with the majority of them"The English ? The Welsh ? Are the people demonstrably different ? Is it possible to make a rational statement that applies to all born or parents born of on bit of land that does not apply to other born on another bit ? | |||
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"Im still scottish never ever british lol
May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ?"Because i was born scottish have never classed myself as british nothing to do with being extra special its my country of birth and why i class myself as scottish | |||
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"Im still scottish never ever british lol
May I ask why ? I could not ever call myself Scottish is there something extra special I'm missing ?
depends, how much you like or dislike the English, Welsh n Irish and whether you wish to be associated with the majority of them"I have no dislike for any english irish or welsh i have family in all 3 countries | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland"Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland). Great Britain is made of two countries and one province. The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands. If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities. | |||
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"This definition is from the Oxford dictionary. A nation with its own government, occupying a particular territory. I have learnt something new today. The Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States was a treaty signed at Montevideo, Uruguay, on December 26 1933. The convention set out the definition, rights and duties of statehood. Most well-known is Article 1, which set out four criteria for statehood, as quoted below. The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states. Article 3 of the Convention also declares that statehood is independent of recognition by other states, so a country can exist even if other countries don't recognize it. I have refered to the Montevideo Convention previously. Do you want to apply those 4 tests to England, or should I? If you can apply them to california, yes
No, I we looked at how California met your criteria of a country as being a defined territory with a flag. We also applied this rule to Cambridgeshire and Cornwall and we found they all met your criteria, yet we all know they are not countries.
But lets apply the Montevideo Convention to England.
A) Yes, it has a permanent population.
B) Yes, it has a defined territory. So far so good!
C) a government? No, no English government that I am aware of.
D) Capacity to enter into relations with other states, no, again going back to C, there is no government to direct any such agreements/relations.
So unfortunately, England fails to meet the internationally established criteria for statehood. "That's Statehood, not country. I think a better definition of a country is this A country is a region that is identified as a distinct national entity in political geography. A country may be an independent sovereign state or one that is occupied by another state, as a non-sovereign or formerly sovereign political division, or a geographic region associated with sets of previously independent or differently associated people with distinct political characteristics. Regardless of the physical geography. Thanks Wikkie.
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities."Hush you dont tell Kinky that he will blow a fuse | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities."But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country? | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country? "I'm saying there is no formal legal status of being English, Scottish or Welsh as nationalities, only British. However I still feel English and am English. The definition of 'country' is quite vague however the definition of statehood, as CLCC has pointed out, is more clear and by that definition neither England, Scotland or Wales are nation states. As your legal nationality is dependent being a member of a nation state and the nation state for most of the British Isles is The United Kingdon and nationals of that nation state are called British, legacy that is what we all are (unless your Irish). | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?
I'm saying there is no formal legal status of being English, Scottish or Welsh as nationalities, only British. However I still feel English and am English. The definition of 'country' is quite vague however the definition of statehood, as CLCC has pointed out, is more clear and by that definition neither England, Scotland or Wales are nation states. As your legal nationality is dependent being a member of a nation state and the nation state for most of the British Isles is The United Kingdon and nationals of that nation state are called British, legacy that is what we all are (unless your Irish)."So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams? | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?
I'm saying there is no formal legal status of being English, Scottish or Welsh as nationalities, only British. However I still feel English and am English. The definition of 'country' is quite vague however the definition of statehood, as CLCC has pointed out, is more clear and by that definition neither England, Scotland or Wales are nation states. As your legal nationality is dependent being a member of a nation state and the nation state for most of the British Isles is The United Kingdon and nationals of that nation state are called British, legacy that is what we all are (unless your Irish).
So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?"There can be if it was desired | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?
I'm saying there is no formal legal status of being English, Scottish or Welsh as nationalities, only British. However I still feel English and am English. The definition of 'country' is quite vague however the definition of statehood, as CLCC has pointed out, is more clear and by that definition neither England, Scotland or Wales are nation states. As your legal nationality is dependent being a member of a nation state and the nation state for most of the British Isles is The United Kingdon and nationals of that nation state are called British, legacy that is what we all are (unless your Irish).
So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?"Ask FIFA? | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?
I'm saying there is no formal legal status of being English, Scottish or Welsh as nationalities, only British. However I still feel English and am English. The definition of 'country' is quite vague however the definition of statehood, as CLCC has pointed out, is more clear and by that definition neither England, Scotland or Wales are nation states. As your legal nationality is dependent being a member of a nation state and the nation state for most of the British Isles is The United Kingdon and nationals of that nation state are called British, legacy that is what we all are (unless your Irish).
So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?
Ask FIFA?"I don't have to its because they are different countries sinples. | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?
I'm saying there is no formal legal status of being English, Scottish or Welsh as nationalities, only British. However I still feel English and am English. The definition of 'country' is quite vague however the definition of statehood, as CLCC has pointed out, is more clear and by that definition neither England, Scotland or Wales are nation states. As your legal nationality is dependent being a member of a nation state and the nation state for most of the British Isles is The United Kingdon and nationals of that nation state are called British, legacy that is what we all are (unless your Irish).
So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?
Ask FIFA?
I don't have to its because they are different countries sinples. "Nothing to do with that at all | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
But are they classed as countrys? Or are you saying like CLCC that that the UK a single country?
I'm saying there is no formal legal status of being English, Scottish or Welsh as nationalities, only British. However I still feel English and am English. The definition of 'country' is quite vague however the definition of statehood, as CLCC has pointed out, is more clear and by that definition neither England, Scotland or Wales are nation states. As your legal nationality is dependent being a member of a nation state and the nation state for most of the British Isles is The United Kingdon and nationals of that nation state are called British, legacy that is what we all are (unless your Irish).
So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?
Ask FIFA?
I don't have to its because they are different countries sinples. "We could have an English and Welsh team, like we do in Cricket; we could have an 'all British Isles' team, as we do in Rugby; we could have a UK team, as we do in the Olympics; we could have any mixture we wanted, if we wanted. Where we don't do it, we don't do it because the governing bodies of those sports don't want it. | |||
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" So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams?" Which team plays football/soccer in the olympics? Is it Team GB? Im not a big football fan, so I'm not really sure. | |||
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" So why cant there be a UK football team instead of 4 different country teams? Which team plays football/soccer in the olympics? Is it Team GB? Im not a big football fan, so I'm not really sure." Indeed it is | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities."Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in; you failed to read this; Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right. Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years. Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century. The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed | |||
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" Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right. Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years. Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century. The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed" We always knew we were a country though, we've known it since King Offa built his dyke and told us to stay the other side of it lol | |||
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"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team. There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen." How very patriotic of them  | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;
you failed to read this;
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed"So you are going to take ISO as your definition of what is and isn't a country then? Interesting, they describe NI as a province, not a country.  | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;
you failed to read this;
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
So you are going to take ISO as your definition of what is and isn't a country then? Interesting, they describe NI as a province, not a country. "Its the north of Ireland not northern Ireland | |||
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"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team. There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen. How very patriotic of them "Well done the welsh | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;
you failed to read this;
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
So you are going to take ISO as your definition of what is and isn't a country then? Interesting, they describe NI as a province, not a country.
Its the north of Ireland not northern Ireland "So it's not part of the UK at all? It's part of Ireland? | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;
you failed to read this;
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed"I guess, just like country, it depends what your definition of principality actually is. Mine is:- the territory or jurisdiction of a prince or the country that gives title to a prince. As Wales gives title to the Prince of Wales, by the definition I use, Wales is a principality. However, by the same definition, a principality can be a country also. Perhaps I should have said the United Kingdon is made up of two kingdoms, one principality and a province. How many countries make up the UK depends on your definition of country and could possibly be anything from one to four (or more if you include the Channel Island states, Isle Of Man, Silly Isles etc). | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
you still haven't answered the question, which is strange as you seem to live on this forum
here, I will help you;
.
Great Britain is three countries: England, Scotland and Wales. Great Britain is the name of the main island of the British Isles. It is a geographical term, not a country, not a state, not a political entity. The current political entity is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
Actually the United Kingdom is made up of two countries( England & Scotland) 1 principality (Wales) and one province (Northern Ireland).
Great Britain is made of two countries and one province.
The British Isles consists of all of the United Kingdom as well as Southern Ireland, Isle of Man, Chanel Islands, Shetland, Silly Isles and other smaller islands.
If you are a citizen of any of the British Isles then, legally, your nationality is British or Irish or both, there is no other legal choice: English, Scottish and Welsh do not exist as legal nationalities.
Unleashedcracken you should read the forum before stepping in;
you failed to read this;
Wales is country and not a Principality. Although Wales shares a border with England and is part of Great Britain, Wales is a country in its own right.
Wales was officially recognised as a country in December 2011 by the influential International Organisation for Standardisation (ISO) - but it hasn’t really been a Principality for hundreds of years.
Despite the relatively recent recognition of Wales as a country, even though it has its own National Assembly, anthem, language and our own rugby and football teams, it hasn’t been a Principality since the 16th century.
The change by ISO came after the institute referred to Wales as a Principality in a newsletter, prompting Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood AM to launch a campaign for the status to be changed
I guess, just like country, it depends what your definition of principality actually is. Mine is:- the territory or jurisdiction of a prince or the country that gives title to a prince.
As Wales gives title to the Prince of Wales, by the definition I use, Wales is a principality. However, by the same definition, a principality can be a country also.
Perhaps I should have said the United Kingdon is made up of two kingdoms, one principality and a province. How many countries make up the UK depends on your definition of country and could possibly be anything from one to four (or more if you include the Channel Island states, Isle Of Man, Silly Isles etc).
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"God I hate all this obsessive small minded nationalistic crap! Everybody playing self interested one up-manship games to look after there own little patch of mud and bollox to what happens to everybody else
It's the 21St century not the 12th! The time of competing petty kingdoms vying for power and influence should be ancient history! ". What's your alternative? | |||
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"God I hate all this obsessive small minded nationalistic crap! Everybody playing self interested one up-manship games to look after there own little patch of mud and bollox to what happens to everybody else
It's the 21St century not the 12th! The time of competing petty kingdoms vying for power and influence should be ancient history! .
What's your alternative?"As I've said on several threads, I'm a one world globalist. One government with one executive and one bureaucracy. | |||
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"God I hate all this obsessive small minded nationalistic crap! Everybody playing self interested one up-manship games to look after there own little patch of mud and bollox to what happens to everybody else
It's the 21St century not the 12th! The time of competing petty kingdoms vying for power and influence should be ancient history! .
What's your alternative?
As I've said on several threads, I'm a one world globalist. One government with one executive and one bureaucracy. "Me to.One nation one flag one people on a little blue ball. | |||
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"English first, British 2nd and European last. " Yes, this. | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY! "Wrong Dude United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland. oh and I'm English first British second | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
Wrong Dude
United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.
oh and I'm English first British second"UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
Wrong Dude
United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.
oh and I'm English first British second
UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country "no wonder people get sick of your daily crap | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
Wrong Dude
United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.
oh and I'm English first British second
UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country
no wonder people get sick of your daily crap"Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public. | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
Wrong Dude
United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.
oh and I'm English first British second
UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country
no wonder people get sick of your daily crap
Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public. "Still scottish and always will be and no matter what you or anyone says i WILL NEVER BE BRITISH | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
Wrong Dude
United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.
oh and I'm English first British second
UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country
no wonder people get sick of your daily crap
Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public.
Still scottish and always will be and no matter what you or anyone says i WILL NEVER BE BRITISH "Apart from when you use your passport, right? | |||
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, _candium....if ive got this correct?, is an alloy, developed by our soviet buddies, to tip missiles with, that would withstand breaking thru ice, launched underwater??? xxx | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
Wrong Dude
United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.
oh and I'm English first British second
UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country
no wonder people get sick of your daily crap
Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public.
Still scottish and always will be and no matter what you or anyone says i WILL NEVER BE BRITISH
Apart from when you use your passport, right? "Nope as i said a passport is only a document doesnt make you british | |||
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"Scottish ,have never and would never class myself as british Have you got a Scottish passport? What does it matter what passport ive got the question was what nationality you class yourself Ok, what nationality do you class yourself as when you go through international borders?
Ive already said scottish ,why
Then you have never crossed an international border. British passports say on the data page "British Citizen", it doesn't say "Scottish". You said that you would never class yourself as "British", but if you have ever travelled on a British passport, then that's exactly what you have done.
Lol a passport is just a document that allows you into different countries dont really care what it says on it as i have said im scottish never ever british
So you don't care that it says British on it?
YAWN
it also says European Union & United Kingdom of Great Britain
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The United Kingdom is the country, that's why it is the one to issue passports, the UK is the one with the seat at the UN etc.
now please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain"
What is your definition of a country?
why is it difficult for you to reply to the most simple of questions;
again
for the third time;
please remind me, Which countries make up the United Kingdom of Great Britain
The UK IS the country, it's not made up of countries, IT IS THE COUNTRY!
Wrong Dude
United Kingdom isn't the country or a country. United Kingdom is the union of four separate countries, England, Wales, Scotland and N Ireland.
oh and I'm English first British second
UK at the U.N. UK on the passports. UK at the EU. UK at the World Bank. UK in NATO. UK in the WTO. But sure, it's not a country
no wonder people get sick of your daily crap
Yeah, most people don't like being proven wrong in public.
Still scottish and always will be and no matter what you or anyone says i WILL NEVER BE BRITISH
Apart from when you use your passport, right?
Nope as i said a passport is only a document doesnt make you british " it proves you are British! You use jt to prove your identity as a British citizen.
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"How do you feel about your nationality? If you have a choice, do you feel the one you identify with is a choice?" I class myself as British as was born and raised in London, but have Jamaican parents who came to England when they were both young. I have always felt the identity of being a Brit was applied to people who were born in England but whose heritage was from elsewhere. Personally I don't feel I would be accepted as English by the majority of people who class themselves as that, yet Jamaicans do not accept me as Jamaican either. Being British is an identity for those English residents who don't really fit in to their original country's mould. | |||
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I'm English !
Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!! | |||
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"I hate having to put British on forms
I'm English !
Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!!"
I hate not being given british as a choice on forms and having to put scottish. I go for other. | |||
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"I hate having to put British on forms
I'm English !
Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!!
I hate not being given british as a choice on forms and having to put scottish. I go for other.
"Never ever ever use british on anything fck id come out in a rash just thinking about it | |||
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"when the three letters 'ish' are placed at the end of a word it signifies that it is an approximation of the root word ... in the case of the this thread, british would be a person who is an approximation of a briton, but in reality, does not qualify as being such .... linguistic fact "Does that apply to English, Scottish or Irish as well. Maybe the Welsh are the only people in the whole of the British Isles that actually have real national identity of their own after all. | |||
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"How do you feel about your nationality? If you have a choice, do you feel the one you identify with is a choice? I class myself as British as was born and raised in London, but have Jamaican parents who came to England when they were both young. I have always felt the identity of being a Brit was applied to people who were born in England but whose heritage was from elsewhere. Personally I don't feel I would be accepted as English by the majority of people who class themselves as that, yet Jamaicans do not accept me as Jamaican either. Being British is an identity for those English residents who don't really fit in to their original country's mould. " To be honest with you, if you're of British Caribbean decent then you've probably got more Anglo-Saxon or Celtic blood in you than most people who actually think they are English. There's not many people in this country who can trace their ancestry back further than their Grandparents or Great Grandparents and there's normally at least one, if not many more, of their parents, Grandparents or Great Grandparents who are not originally from the British Isles, regardless of their complexion. | |||
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"I hate having to put British on forms
I'm English !
Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!!"I'm British. I would never identify myself as English as I feel that the designation as been hijacked by the disgusting far right edl, ukip etc | |||
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"when the three letters 'ish' are placed at the end of a word it signifies that it is an approximation of the root word ... in the case of the this thread, british would be a person who is an approximation of a briton, but in reality, does not qualify as being such .... linguistic fact
Does that apply to English, Scottish or Irish as well. Maybe the Welsh are the only people in the whole of the British Isles that actually have real national identity of their own after all. "apply it however you want .... i'm just relaying linguistic fact | |||
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"I hate having to put British on forms
I'm English !
Sadly a Nation not Recognised except as the Baddy in Disney or Hollywood Movies !!!
I hate not being given british as a choice on forms and having to put scottish. I go for other.
Never ever ever use british on anything fck id come out in a rash just thinking about it "Apart from on your passport | |||
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"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport. But I'll bite... I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood. What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it." We all have multiple identities. To someone you are a son, to someone else you are a lover, to someone else you are a customer etc. When people use their passport they are assuming the identity and nationality within. It is therefore daft to claim that you would never identify as that nationality when you have done multiple times. | |||
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"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport. But I'll bite... I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood. What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it. We all have multiple identities. To someone you are a son, to someone else you are a lover, to someone else you are a customer etc. When people use their passport they are assuming the identity and nationality within. It is therefore daft to claim that you would never identify as that nationality when you have done multiple times. " A nation, and so nationality, is not defined by the country whose passport you have. There is no contradiction in terms of declaring nationality of one of its nations but using the country of the UK'S passport. | |||
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"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport. But I'll bite... I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood. What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it. We all have multiple identities. To someone you are a son, to someone else you are a lover, to someone else you are a customer etc. When people use their passport they are assuming the identity and nationality within. It is therefore daft to claim that you would never identify as that nationality when you have done multiple times. A nation, and so nationality, is not defined by the country whose passport you have. There is no contradiction in terms of declaring nationality of one of its nations but using the country of the UK'S passport." Actually it is! Look at the photo page of your passport. Section 3 says "NATIONALITY" and then under that on a British passport it will say "BRITISH CITIZEN" | |||
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"Scottish first Scottish second and Scottish third"" Human first Human second Human third I have realised any other data could be misleading x English yes I was born in an English town but do I I want that to define me ie the stereo types that English× conger absolutely NOT The more emphatically you suggest you are x then the less emphatically you can be you xxx | |||
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"Scottish first Scottish second and Scottish third" Human first Human second Human third I have realised any other data could be misleading x English yes I was born in an English town but do I I want that to define me ie the stereo types that English× conger absolutely NOT The more emphatically you suggest you are x then the less emphatically you can be you xxx" The Duke of Wellington was fiercely adamant that being born in Ireland did not make him Irish. He said something along the lines of 'if a man is born in a stable, that does not make him a horse' | |||
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"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport. But I'll bite... I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood. What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it. We all have multiple identities. To someone you are a son, to someone else you are a lover, to someone else you are a customer etc. When people use their passport they are assuming the identity and nationality within. It is therefore daft to claim that you would never identify as that nationality when you have done multiple times. A nation, and so nationality, is not defined by the country whose passport you have. There is no contradiction in terms of declaring nationality of one of its nations but using the country of the UK'S passport. Actually it is! Look at the photo page of your passport. Section 3 says "NATIONALITY" and then under that on a British passport it will say "BRITISH CITIZEN" " And that sums up exactly what fuels independence referendums. Britain is not a nation. Wales, England and Scotland are. The UK is a state. Do it should really say : State citizenship :UK. I don't have a UK passport. | |||
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"CLCC I think you're being pedantic about the British passport. But I'll bite... I'd say me first, British culturally, Chilean blood. What about the people with dual nationality. I'm elegible for it but haven't been back to Chile to do it. We all have multiple identities. To someone you are a son, to someone else you are a lover, to someone else you are a customer etc. When people use their passport they are assuming the identity and nationality within. It is therefore daft to claim that you would never identify as that nationality when you have done multiple times. A nation, and so nationality, is not defined by the country whose passport you have. There is no contradiction in terms of declaring nationality of one of its nations but using the country of the UK'S passport. Actually it is! Look at the photo page of your passport. Section 3 says "NATIONALITY" and then under that on a British passport it will say "BRITISH CITIZEN" And that sums up exactly what fuels independence referendums. Britain is not a nation. Wales, England and Scotland are. The UK is a state. Do it should really say : State citizenship :UK. I don't have a UK passport. " What kind of passport do you have? | |||
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"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team. There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen. How very patriotic of them "So is "god save the Queen " an English national anthem ? Or is it the UK national anthem ? Cant have both ? Scotland , Wales both have their own countries national anthems | |||
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"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team. There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen. How very patriotic of them
So is "god save the Queen " an English national anthem ? Or is it the UK national anthem ?
Cant have both ? Scotland , Wales both have their own countries national anthems "is that a trick question ? | |||
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"When do you ever hear the English and Welsh cricket team being referred to as "England and Wales"? Never. It's always "England". That's the problem with having a combined team. There was a Team GB football entry at the London Olympics after much controversy. Welsh fans at the games held at the Millennium stadium booed through God Save the Queen. How very patriotic of them
So is "god save the Queen " an English national anthem ? Or is it the UK national anthem ?
Cant have both ? Scotland , Wales both have their own countries national anthems
is that a trick question ?"Nope try and answer is "god save the queen" an English or UK national anthem ? Which one | |||
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"I recognize my personality as distinct from artificial constructions such as nation states. Boundaries diminish, so I'd prefer to link my identity to my personal limitations. I'm human." Excellent statement | |||
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