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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I've found, in politics, people are supremely reluctant to admit that they would have done things differently (either publically or to themselves).
Note: I'm not saying everyone would have voted differently. I'm just saying that I think the impulse is to double down, not re-think... |
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over a year ago
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I would have still voted leave , and never expected it to be all plain sailing !
Tho to me leave meant leave straight away !
The longer we leave it the weaker our position is !
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over a year ago
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" Even if you knew it would lead to economic change, such as the collapse of the banking sector. And depression of the housing market?"
YOU don't know that, and cannot prove that.
Most who succeed in life take risk, looks like some here wouldn't even risk crossing a road.
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Leaving the EU will be the best thing the UK has done for a long long time |
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"I would have still voted leave , and never expected it to be all plain sailing !
Tho to me leave meant leave straight away !
The longer we leave it the weaker our position is !
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Defiantly remain there’s worse to come it hasent even started yet
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Leave...
The banks will stay in London they have been there for 150 years way before the EU. And as for the housing market it to high anyway due to 160,000 new people come in every year needing a home? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Leave...
The banks will stay in London they have been there for 150 years way before the EU. And as for the housing market it to high anyway due to 160,000 new people come in every year needing a home?"
a) that shows an lack of knowledge of which banking jobs will have to be relocated due to the uk not being inside the EU due to EU law......
b) i think you'll find that most people who come into the country from the EU will have had jobs lined up before they come here... so they will be people who will be net contibutor's to the uk's finances due to them paying taxes here |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I've found, in politics, people are supremely reluctant to admit that they would have done things differently (either publically or to themselves).
Note: I'm not saying everyone would have voted differently. I'm just saying that I think the impulse is to double down, not re-think..."
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" Even if you knew it would lead to economic change, such as the collapse of the banking sector. And depression of the housing market?
YOU don't know that, and cannot prove that.
Most who succeed in life take risk, looks like some here wouldn't even risk crossing a road.
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Leaving the EU will be the best thing the UK has done for a long long time"
I wonder why it is that pro-Brexit posts never have any actual reasons why it's going to be so great... |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Leave...
The banks will stay in London they have been there for 150 years way before the EU. And as for the housing market it to high anyway due to 160,000 new people come in every year needing a home?
a) that shows an lack of knowledge of which banking jobs will have to be relocated due to the uk not being inside the EU due to EU law......
b) i think you'll find that most people who come into the country from the EU will have had jobs lined up before they come here... so they will be people who will be net contibutor's to the uk's finances due to them paying taxes here"
yes but still need houses it live in, and over half that come don't have job's.
But we aways need more car washers |
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"I would have still voted leave , and never expected it to be all plain sailing !
Tho to me leave meant leave straight away !
The longer we leave it the weaker our position is !
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The longer you stay in the stronger your position is because it gives you more time to plan and avoid the worst effects of Brexit.
If this was a 4+ year negotiation period (which it would have been if the EU didnt want leaving to be an absurd choice) then the UK would be in a far stronger position.
If the Torys were good negotiators they wouldnt have triggered A50 without some guarantees on transition and an extended negotiating period. And even beyond that they should have gotten the divorce bill and citizen rights settled early and tried to fold N. Ireland into the future relationship (which makes sense for the 2 to be discussed together) and theyd have tons of time to negotiate a good deal.
Instead we have less than a year to finish off negotiations on the 3 main issues AND then the future relationship.
The tories are on a tricycle playing chicken with a train and they think they'll win. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"The US/Japanese banking sector looks good to me or are they in the EU????"
they are.... and those jobs wont be going....
the ones that are EU related are thought to be roughly about 10,000 banking jobs that will relocate from the UK into the rest of the EU....
so are you saying those people are "collateral damage"?
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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yes but still need houses it live in, and over half that come don't have job's.
But we aways need more car washers "
where do you get "over half" from.... can you show me the government statistics please.... because you are actually not entitled to any help or benefits from any EU country till you have been here for 2 years!
thats just throwing shit out there to see what sticks.....
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The US/Japanese banking sector looks good to me or are they in the EU????
they are.... and those jobs wont be going....
the ones that are EU related are thought to be roughly about 10,000 banking jobs that will relocate from the UK into the rest of the EU....
so are you saying those people are "collateral damage"?
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yes banking sector never give a dam about the rest of us when they screwed everything up. Sorry I won't be crying to much.
Have to get out in the world like the rest of us and get on with it the gravy train coming to an end |
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By (user no longer on site)
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" Even if you knew it would lead to economic change, such as the collapse of the banking sector. And depression of the housing market?"
I voted leave mainly based on what Marta Andreasen revealed when she became a whistle blower about the fraud in the EU budget.
Banks don't collapse because counties join or leave trading blocks they collapse because of fractional reserve banking and a loss of confidence in a small percentage of the customers. There is at least 2000 years and thousands of examples of this through out history.
Land value is also one of the main cost of houses.
The housing market is massively over priced based on historic figures so it should and it will collapse it just a matter of time the same with the banks.
The government have done everything they can to keep house prices high because most people have their wealth tied up in their homes.
Read the book reviews on Amazon for Who Owns Britain and Ireland.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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but to try and answer your claim...
EU migrants make up only a small proportion of the overall benefits caseload. They accounted for 2.5% of benefits the DWP administered in 2014 - mostly out-of-work benefits - in 2014, and 7% of tax credits,
The DWP analysis says EU migrants on “in-work” benefits cost the taxpayer £530m in 2013. That represents a modest 1.6% of the year’s total tax credit bill. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"The US/Japanese banking sector looks good to me or are they in the EU????
they are.... and those jobs wont be going....
the ones that are EU related are thought to be roughly about 10,000 banking jobs that will relocate from the UK into the rest of the EU....
so are you saying those people are "collateral damage"?
yes banking sector never give a dam about the rest of us when they screwed everything up. Sorry I won't be crying to much.
Have to get out in the world like the rest of us and get on with it the gravy train coming to an end "
but a lot of those people are contributing a lot in tax revenues and spending thru the economy.......
but thanks for being so honest about your cold hearted attitude to others who may lose their jobs.... lets hope that others are more sympathetic to you if you even found yourself in their situation...... |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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" Even if you knew it would lead to economic change, such as the collapse of the banking sector. And depression of the housing market?"
Yes because I think long term and you only think theses thinks may happen
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"The US/Japanese banking sector looks good to me or are they in the EU????"
Yes but many of those Japanese and American banks have their EU subsidiaries in the UK so that they can operate here. Once the UK leavea the EU then those banks will leave too because the only reason theyre in the UK is EU access.
And when those companies go all their local suppliers will take a hit. The local british companies that supply them with cleaners, food, vending machines, tech support etc. etc. So it wont just be the banks and their employees that are hurt, its the wider area.
Never mind the fact that the unemployment will increase as will social payments right when the government loses out on billions in tax revenue because the banks left. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Voted to leave and sorry to be the bearer of bad news here but........
Here's what's really going on.
Perspective for those who don't know, most countries in the world have a Rothschild central banking system in place. 2 that don't, Russia and China.
So.....
It doesn't take a financial expert to work out that the collapse of any fractional reserve banking system is inevitable and that makes the housing market mention literally pointless as they are so heavily intertwined.
The last chance to save the west died with JFK (he wanted to get rid of the privately owned Federal reserve in favour of a currency owned by the US government and citizens, hence the bullet to the head). The coffin was firmly nailed (for the world) when Nixon took the US dollar off the gold standard and onto the unbelievably retarded petro-dollar. Since that point the USA has went from the richest and most prosperous country the world has ever seen to only 50 years ago to $21 trillion in debt as of last month
Brexit gives us a very, very slim chance of ensuring this Nation can get through the biggest and most far reaching coming event in modern human history, the collapse of the world's reserve currency, the US dollar.
Sorry if some of you find this disturbing but it's the truth. I personally hope the world elites have a plan but something tells me they don't and they're terrified.
Capitalism is great until you come to the end where just like in a game of monopoly, one person owns everything. With 80 families in the world owning half of the world, I'd say we're almost there.
The only thing keeping everything together right now is the sheer might of the US military and if you didn't before, you now have a pretty good idea of one of the reasons for trying to carve up the oil rich middle east.
Do some mediocre research and you'll find everything I've said can be pretty much verified by various experts in their field.
Apologies again if I've terrified you  .
Mr. |
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Sorry to mention the war but didnt we lose thousands of men and women. Leaving Europe we shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Money is not what makes a country it's the people and that's why we are great Britain.
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Voted to leave and sorry to be the bearer of bad news here but........
Here's what's really going on.
Perspective for those who don't know, most countries in the world have a Rothschild central banking system in place. 2 that don't, Russia and China.
So.....
It doesn't take a financial expert to work out that the collapse of any fractional reserve banking system is inevitable and that makes the housing market mention literally pointless as they are so heavily intertwined.
The last chance to save the west died with JFK (he wanted to get rid of the privately owned Federal reserve in favour of a currency owned by the US government and citizens, hence the bullet to the head). The coffin was firmly nailed (for the world) when Nixon took the US dollar off the gold standard and onto the unbelievably retarded petro-dollar. Since that point the USA has went from the richest and most prosperous country the world has ever seen to only 50 years ago to $21 trillion in debt as of last month
Brexit gives us a very, very slim chance of ensuring this Nation can get through the biggest and most far reaching coming event in modern human history, the collapse of the world's reserve currency, the US dollar.
Sorry if some of you find this disturbing but it's the truth. I personally hope the world elites have a plan but something tells me they don't and they're terrified.
Capitalism is great until you come to the end where just like in a game of monopoly, one person owns everything. With 80 families in the world owning half of the world, I'd say we're almost there.
The only thing keeping everything together right now is the sheer might of the US military and if you didn't before, you now have a pretty good idea of one of the reasons for trying to carve up the oil rich middle east.
Do some mediocre research and you'll find everything I've said can be pretty much verified by various experts in their field.
Apologies again if I've terrified you .
Mr."
I can exeot what you are saying as I feel you are largely correct |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The US/Japanese banking sector looks good to me or are they in the EU????
they are.... and those jobs wont be going....
the ones that are EU related are thought to be roughly about 10,000 banking jobs that will relocate from the UK into the rest of the EU....
so are you saying those people are "collateral damage"?
yes banking sector never give a dam about the rest of us when they screwed everything up. Sorry I won't be crying to much.
Have to get out in the world like the rest of us and get on with it the gravy train coming to an end "
I get the sentiment, but I'll be pretty pissed if my job goes under and I have a repeat of what happened when I was a younger guy (2007 crash onto 2012 was not a good time to find work).
Also, no idea how much debt you have, but the weaker the pound is, the less financially stable the country is (this is universal to any county) and the less investment attracted, the greater any debt you have is, an addition to any interest in your debt going up.
If you have family with student loans or bank loans they'll be worst hit. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Sorry to mention the war but didnt we lose thousands of men and women. Leaving Europe we shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Money is not what makes a country it's the people and that's why we are great Britain.
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It's titled Great because you're situated on the larger of the two main island in the archipelago. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Voted to leave and sorry to be the bearer of bad news here but........
Here's what's really going on.
Perspective for those who don't know, most countries in the world have a Rothschild central banking system in place. 2 that don't, Russia and China.
So.....
It doesn't take a financial expert to work out that the collapse of any fractional reserve banking system is inevitable and that makes the housing market mention literally pointless as they are so heavily intertwined.
The last chance to save the west died with JFK (he wanted to get rid of the privately owned Federal reserve in favour of a currency owned by the US government and citizens, hence the bullet to the head). The coffin was firmly nailed (for the world) when Nixon took the US dollar off the gold standard and onto the unbelievably retarded petro-dollar. Since that point the USA has went from the richest and most prosperous country the world has ever seen to only 50 years ago to $21 trillion in debt as of last month
Brexit gives us a very, very slim chance of ensuring this Nation can get through the biggest and most far reaching coming event in modern human history, the collapse of the world's reserve currency, the US dollar.
Sorry if some of you find this disturbing but it's the truth. I personally hope the world elites have a plan but something tells me they don't and they're terrified.
Capitalism is great until you come to the end where just like in a game of monopoly, one person owns everything. With 80 families in the world owning half of the world, I'd say we're almost there.
The only thing keeping everything together right now is the sheer might of the US military and if you didn't before, you now have a pretty good idea of one of the reasons for trying to carve up the oil rich middle east.
Do some mediocre research and you'll find everything I've said can be pretty much verified by various experts in their field.
Apologies again if I've terrified you .
Mr."
Also, invest in tinfoil. It makes for nifty headwear. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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" Even if you knew it would lead to economic change, such as the collapse of the banking sector. And depression of the housing market?"
Our house price has increased since brexit. All the remain treasury experts were saying it would fall by 18% in the 2 years following the vote to leave.
To live down to their fire last, our house would have to drop by about 30%... In the next 9 months.
And where has the banking sector collapsed? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Voted to leave and sorry to be the bearer of bad news here but........
Here's what's really going on.
Perspective for those who don't know, most countries in the world have a Rothschild central banking system in place. 2 that don't, Russia and China.
So.....
It doesn't take a financial expert to work out that the collapse of any fractional reserve banking system is inevitable and that makes the housing market mention literally pointless as they are so heavily intertwined.
The last chance to save the west died with JFK (he wanted to get rid of the privately owned Federal reserve in favour of a currency owned by the US government and citizens, hence the bullet to the head). The coffin was firmly nailed (for the world) when Nixon took the US dollar off the gold standard and onto the unbelievably retarded petro-dollar. Since that point the USA has went from the richest and most prosperous country the world has ever seen to only 50 years ago to $21 trillion in debt as of last month
Brexit gives us a very, very slim chance of ensuring this Nation can get through the biggest and most far reaching coming event in modern human history, the collapse of the world's reserve currency, the US dollar.
Sorry if some of you find this disturbing but it's the truth. I personally hope the world elites have a plan but something tells me they don't and they're terrified.
Capitalism is great until you come to the end where just like in a game of monopoly, one person owns everything. With 80 families in the world owning half of the world, I'd say we're almost there.
The only thing keeping everything together right now is the sheer might of the US military and if you didn't before, you now have a pretty good idea of one of the reasons for trying to carve up the oil rich middle east.
Do some mediocre research and you'll find everything I've said can be pretty much verified by various experts in their field.
Apologies again if I've terrified you .
Mr."
Embrace the comming new world order.From chaos comes order.
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"Sorry to mention the war but didnt we lose thousands of men and women. Leaving Europe we shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Money is not what makes a country it's the people and that's why we are great Britain.
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Well, sorry again but no. The fact that you believe money doesn't make a country baffles me. Money makes the world go round and millions, if not billions of people have died for it.
History is written by the victors, that's a fact.
Now, let me be VERY clear here, I am in no way defeniding the defeated party in WW2 or commending anything that happened during that or any war, by either side. Both hands are controlled by the same brain by the way, think about that for a minute. I'm simply telling you things that you should go research yourself. Freedom of information and the Internet are two of the biggest mistakes ever made by our psychopathic overlords.
Germany had a central banking system which decided to bankrupt them..... twice, the reasons for said bankruptcies, I can't quite bring to the forefront of my mind at the minute but again, they're fairly easy to find.
So, along comes Hitler and he does the impossible. In 10 years or so he brings Germany from a bankrupt country in which people were literally starving to death to one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
How did he do it? He created a German currency owned by the German government and German people. Who didn't like this? The federal reserve and their almost worldwide fractional reserve banking system or as I like to call it, the humanity enslaver.
Every pound in your bank right now is owed to the people who own the banks....... with interest. This makes sure you, yes YOU, owe someone that pound back with interest. There are never enough pounds to pay the pound and the interest because every new pound to pay the interest on the first pound comes with interest. That's fractional reserve banking.
Anyway, I digress. Germany was the first JFK because Hitler created a German banking system owned by the German government and German people.
This is all verifiable and there's so much more to the story but the truth is, your not allowed to know the truth.
Sorry again if if terrified ya'all or possibly offended you this time but you can find all this out for yourselves, you just need to be a little interested and look.
Mr. Who's prabably getting JFK'd soon  . |
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"Sorry to mention the war but didnt we lose thousands of men and women. Leaving Europe we shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Money is not what makes a country it's the people and that's why we are great Britain.
Well, sorry again but no. The fact that you believe money doesn't make a country baffles me. Money makes the world go round and millions, if not billions of people have died for it.
History is written by the victors, that's a fact.
Now, let me be VERY clear here, I am in no way defeniding the defeated party in WW2 or commending anything that happened during that or any war, by either side. Both hands are controlled by the same brain by the way, think about that for a minute. I'm simply telling you things that you should go research yourself. Freedom of information and the Internet are two of the biggest mistakes ever made by our psychopathic overlords.
Germany had a central banking system which decided to bankrupt them..... twice, the reasons for said bankruptcies, I can't quite bring to the forefront of my mind at the minute but again, they're fairly easy to find.
So, along comes Hitler and he does the impossible. In 10 years or so he brings Germany from a bankrupt country in which people were literally starving to death to one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
How did he do it? He created a German currency owned by the German government and German people. Who didn't like this? The federal reserve and their almost worldwide fractional reserve banking system or as I like to call it, the humanity enslaver.
Every pound in your bank right now is owed to the people who own the banks....... with interest. This makes sure you, yes YOU, owe someone that pound back with interest. There are never enough pounds to pay the pound and the interest because every new pound to pay the interest on the first pound comes with interest. That's fractional reserve banking.
Anyway, I digress. Germany was the first JFK because Hitler created a German banking system owned by the German government and German people.
This is all verifiable and there's so much more to the story but the truth is, your not allowed to know the truth.
Sorry again if if terrified ya'all or possibly offended you this time but you can find all this out for yourselves, you just need to be a little interested and look.
Mr. Who's prabably getting JFK'd soon ."
Dont let me disappoint you in your rants....but Hitler also stole a lot of money from the countries he pillaged and the 20 million he killed  |
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If the Torys were good negotiators they wouldnt have triggered A50 without some guarantees on transition and an extended negotiating period. And even beyond that they should have gotten the divorce bill and citizen rights settled early and tried to fold N. Ireland into the future relationship (which makes sense for the 2 to be discussed together) and theyd have tons of time to negotiate a good deal.
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EU would not talk about anything until article 50 was triggered. To rise making a pigs ear of it...but could only start making a pigs ear AFTER triggering A50. No discussion allowed before under EU "rules" |
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Rants, conspiracies and tin foil hats  .
All verifiable. But hey, guess you don't believe in Tuskegee, the Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, Isreal's attack on the USS Liberty to frame Egypt and set up an attack by the world's most deadly military or the gulf of Tonkin attack too get Vietnam on the go.....haha. All of which are now admitted to.
You probably think a few guys with box cutters hijacked some planes and downed the WTC.....lol. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Voted to leave, would do the same again.
Frau May will probably call another "are you sure" referendum in the next few months."
do you think we should get a vote on the final deal.... or do you think the government should get a blank cheque to decide what goes in...... |
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"Sorry to mention the war but didnt we lose thousands of men and women. Leaving Europe we shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Money is not what makes a country it's the people and that's why we are great Britain.
Well, sorry again but no. The fact that you believe money doesn't make a country baffles me. Money makes the world go round and millions, if not billions of people have died for it.
History is written by the victors, that's a fact.
Now, let me be VERY clear here, I am in no way defeniding the defeated party in WW2 or commending anything that happened during that or any war, by either side. Both hands are controlled by the same brain by the way, think about that for a minute. I'm simply telling you things that you should go research yourself. Freedom of information and the Internet are two of the biggest mistakes ever made by our psychopathic overlords.
Germany had a central banking system which decided to bankrupt them..... twice, the reasons for said bankruptcies, I can't quite bring to the forefront of my mind at the minute but again, they're fairly easy to find.
So, along comes Hitler and he does the impossible. In 10 years or so he brings Germany from a bankrupt country in which people were literally starving to death to one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
How did he do it? He created a German currency owned by the German government and German people. Who didn't like this? The federal reserve and their almost worldwide fractional reserve banking system or as I like to call it, the humanity enslaver.
Every pound in your bank right now is owed to the people who own the banks....... with interest. This makes sure you, yes YOU, owe someone that pound back with interest. There are never enough pounds to pay the pound and the interest because every new pound to pay the interest on the first pound comes with interest. That's fractional reserve banking.
Anyway, I digress. Germany was the first JFK because Hitler created a German banking system owned by the German government and German people.
This is all verifiable and there's so much more to the story but the truth is, your not allowed to know the truth.
Sorry again if if terrified ya'all or possibly offended you this time but you can find all this out for yourselves, you just need to be a little interested and look.
Mr. Who's prabably getting JFK'd soon .
Dont let me disappoint you in your rants....but Hitler also stole a lot of money from the countries he pillaged and the 20 million he killed "
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"Sorry to mention the war but didnt we lose thousands of men and women. Leaving Europe we shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Money is not what makes a country it's the people and that's why we are great Britain.
Well, sorry again but no. The fact that you believe money doesn't make a country baffles me. Money makes the world go round and millions, if not billions of people have died for it.
History is written by the victors, that's a fact.
Now, let me be VERY clear here, I am in no way defeniding the defeated party in WW2 or commending anything that happened during that or any war, by either side. Both hands are controlled by the same brain by the way, think about that for a minute. I'm simply telling you things that you should go research yourself. Freedom of information and the Internet are two of the biggest mistakes ever made by our psychopathic overlords.
Germany had a central banking system which decided to bankrupt them..... twice, the reasons for said bankruptcies, I can't quite bring to the forefront of my mind at the minute but again, they're fairly easy to find.
So, along comes Hitler and he does the impossible. In 10 years or so he brings Germany from a bankrupt country in which people were literally starving to death to one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
How did he do it? He created a German currency owned by the German government and German people. Who didn't like this? The federal reserve and their almost worldwide fractional reserve banking system or as I like to call it, the humanity enslaver.
Every pound in your bank right now is owed to the people who own the banks....... with interest. This makes sure you, yes YOU, owe someone that pound back with interest. There are never enough pounds to pay the pound and the interest because every new pound to pay the interest on the first pound comes with interest. That's fractional reserve banking.
Anyway, I digress. Germany was the first JFK because Hitler created a German banking system owned by the German government and German people.
This is all verifiable and there's so much more to the story but the truth is, your not allowed to know the truth.
Sorry again if if terrified ya'all or possibly offended you this time but you can find all this out for yourselves, you just need to be a little interested and look.
Mr. Who's prabably getting JFK'd soon .
Dont let me disappoint you in your rants....but Hitler also stole a lot of money from the countries he pillaged and the 20 million he killed
Sorry but what's that got to do with all the info above?"
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"Rants, conspiracies and tin foil hats .
All verifiable. But hey, guess you don't believe in Tuskegee, the Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, Isreal's attack on the USS Liberty to frame Egypt and set up an attack by the world's most deadly military or the gulf of Tonkin attack too get Vietnam on the go.....haha. All of which are now admitted to.
You probably think a few guys with box cutters hijacked some planes and downed the WTC.....lol. "
Jet fuel can't melt steel beams, is it?
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"Rants, conspiracies and tin foil hats .
All verifiable. But hey, guess you don't believe in Tuskegee, the Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, Isreal's attack on the USS Liberty to frame Egypt and set up an attack by the world's most deadly military or the gulf of Tonkin attack too get Vietnam on the go.....haha. All of which are now admitted to.
You probably think a few guys with box cutters hijacked some planes and downed the WTC.....lol. "
Honestly! you'll be telling us that colonel gaddafi was killed to stop him creating an African currency based on the value of gold, planning to get the other African nations to only sell oil in that currency not US dollars next! |
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"Rants, conspiracies and tin foil hats .
All verifiable. But hey, guess you don't believe in Tuskegee, the Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, Isreal's attack on the USS Liberty to frame Egypt and set up an attack by the world's most deadly military or the gulf of Tonkin attack too get Vietnam on the go.....haha. All of which are now admitted to.
You probably think a few guys with box cutters hijacked some planes and downed the WTC.....lol.
Honestly! you'll be telling us that colonel gaddafi was killed to stop him creating an African currency based on the value of gold, planning to get the other African nations to only sell oil in that currency not US dollars next! "
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"Sorry to mention the war but didnt we lose thousands of men and women. Leaving Europe we shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Money is not what makes a country it's the people and that's why we are great Britain.
Well, sorry again but no. The fact that you believe money doesn't make a country baffles me. Money makes the world go round and millions, if not billions of people have died for it.
History is written by the victors, that's a fact.
Now, let me be VERY clear here, I am in no way defeniding the defeated party in WW2 or commending anything that happened during that or any war, by either side. Both hands are controlled by the same brain by the way, think about that for a minute. I'm simply telling you things that you should go research yourself. Freedom of information and the Internet are two of the biggest mistakes ever made by our psychopathic overlords.
Germany had a central banking system which decided to bankrupt them..... twice, the reasons for said bankruptcies, I can't quite bring to the forefront of my mind at the minute but again, they're fairly easy to find.
So, along comes Hitler and he does the impossible. In 10 years or so he brings Germany from a bankrupt country in which people were literally starving to death to one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
How did he do it? He created a German currency owned by the German government and German people. Who didn't like this? The federal reserve and their almost worldwide fractional reserve banking system or as I like to call it, the humanity enslaver.
Every pound in your bank right now is owed to the people who own the banks....... with interest. This makes sure you, yes YOU, owe someone that pound back with interest. There are never enough pounds to pay the pound and the interest because every new pound to pay the interest on the first pound comes with interest. That's fractional reserve banking.
Anyway, I digress. Germany was the first JFK because Hitler created a German banking system owned by the German government and German people.
This is all verifiable and there's so much more to the story but the truth is, your not allowed to know the truth.
Sorry again if if terrified ya'all or possibly offended you this time but you can find all this out for yourselves, you just need to be a little interested and look.
Mr. Who's prabably getting JFK'd soon .
Dont let me disappoint you in your rants....but Hitler also stole a lot of money from the countries he pillaged and the 20 million he killed
Sorry but what's that got to do with all the info above?
Well it was you who mentioned Hitler being such a good economist lol "
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So, along comes Hitler and he does the impossible. In 10 years or so he brings Germany from a bankrupt country in which people were literally starving to death to one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
How did he do it? He created a German currency owned by the German government and German people. Who didn't like this? The federal reserve and their almost worldwide fractional reserve banking system or as I like to call it, the humanity enslaver.
Did I?"
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" Even if you knew it would lead to economic change, such as the collapse of the banking sector. And depression of the housing market?"
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"Rants, conspiracies and tin foil hats .
All verifiable. But hey, guess you don't believe in Tuskegee, the Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male, Isreal's attack on the USS Liberty to frame Egypt and set up an attack by the world's most deadly military or the gulf of Tonkin attack too get Vietnam on the go.....haha. All of which are now admitted to.
You probably think a few guys with box cutters hijacked some planes and downed the WTC.....lol.
Honestly! you'll be telling us that colonel gaddafi was killed to stop him creating an African currency based on the value of gold, planning to get the other African nations to only sell oil in that currency not US dollars next! "
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You know the second biggest war monger in Libya was France and interestingly enough North Africa still deals without stuff in French francs.
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"Voted to leave, would do the same again.
Frau May will probably call another "are you sure" referendum in the next few months.
do you think we should get a vote on the final deal.... or do you think the government should get a blank cheque to decide what goes in...... "
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Would our vote be binding or would it just be a "guide" to what we want implementing |
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" Even if you knew it would lead to economic change, such as the collapse of the banking sector. And depression of the housing market?
Our house price has increased since brexit. All the remain treasury experts were saying it would fall by 18% in the 2 years following the vote to leave.
To live down to their fire last, our house would have to drop by about 30%... In the next 9 months.
And where has the banking sector collapsed?"
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"I wonder what it is that makes people who regurgitate conspiracy theories believe they are terrifying truth speakers."
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"Sorry to mention the war but didnt we lose thousands of men and women. Leaving Europe we shouldn't have joined in the first place.
Money is not what makes a country it's the people and that's why we are great Britain.
Well, sorry again but no. The fact that you believe money doesn't make a country baffles me. Money makes the world go round and millions, if not billions of people have died for it.
History is written by the victors, that's a fact.
Now, let me be VERY clear here, I am in no way defeniding the defeated party in WW2 or commending anything that happened during that or any war, by either side. Both hands are controlled by the same brain by the way, think about that for a minute. I'm simply telling you things that you should go research yourself. Freedom of information and the Internet are two of the biggest mistakes ever made by our psychopathic overlords.
Germany had a central banking system which decided to bankrupt them..... twice, the reasons for said bankruptcies, I can't quite bring to the forefront of my mind at the minute but again, they're fairly easy to find.
So, along comes Hitler and he does the impossible. In 10 years or so he brings Germany from a bankrupt country in which people were literally starving to death to one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
How did he do it? He created a German currency owned by the German government and German people. Who didn't like this? The federal reserve and their almost worldwide fractional reserve banking system or as I like to call it, the humanity enslaver.
Every pound in your bank right now is owed to the people who own the banks....... with interest. This makes sure you, yes YOU, owe someone that pound back with interest. There are never enough pounds to pay the pound and the interest because every new pound to pay the interest on the first pound comes with interest. That's fractional reserve banking.
Anyway, I digress. Germany was the first JFK because Hitler created a German banking system owned by the German government and German people.
This is all verifiable and there's so much more to the story but the truth is, your not allowed to know the truth.
Sorry again if if terrified ya'all or possibly offended you this time but you can find all this out for yourselves, you just need to be a little interested and look.
Mr. Who's prabably getting JFK'd soon ."
While I think there's a grain of truth hidden with the theories... There will be a financial restructing of the world at some stage but as these systems are so entwined... Leaving the eu won't make a blind bit of difference (you could also argue that sterling offered you a hint of immunity anyway... So why bother? ).
Anyway do you think TM and co are that advanced at planning? ... And look at all that debt?
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"I wonder what it is that makes people who regurgitate conspiracy theories believe they are terrifying truth speakers.
Well you seem to believe everything you say too "
I know I've never quite gone as far as to cast myself as the terrifying orator of the unspoken truths of the universe, but you seem to have a bit of a bee in your bonnet so feel free to take as many swings as you need there, champ. |
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I'm just defending the honour of actual debate where you back up your point with a reason.
You just run around the forum telling people they are "yeah, no, you are wrong" ... All vocabulary and no logic |
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"I'm just defending the honour of actual debate where you back up your point with a reason.
You just run around the forum telling people they are "yeah, no, you are wrong" ... All vocabulary and no logic"
If that's what you need to believe, then sure. |
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"Just flesh out your arguments better and we'll all get along
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They're perfectly fine as is. That you're pretending otherwise is proof enough of that.
Then again, I've very little time for people who use the world logic as a crutch.
It's the mark of one the Internet's more virulent strains: Cargo-cult logisticians. People who wear the trappings of what they think logic is, but with no understanding of the limits of the system they ape and worship. |
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Let's make a peace pact... You are all emotion and I am all logic (I'm a cult member..) so we just don't understand each other.
You might be blessed with divine wisdom and fully correct in everyone else being wrong and you being right. I tend to play with the ideas, listen to the arguments and at least consider changing my mind... But of course I'm stubborn (and human) too
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"Let's make a peace pact... You are all emotion and I am all logic (I'm a cult member..) so we just don't understand each other.
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Yeah, you're not the first person to try this "oh, you're so emotional, not like me, the logical man that I am" drivel.
It has never been interesting
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They're perfectly fine as is. That you're pretending otherwise is proof enough of that.
Then again, I've very little time for people who use the world logic as a crutch.
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If you think that the more people disagree with the you say the more you are correct, that's the height of narcissism
You have little time for any point of view except your own, that's the height of arrogance
I'm just urging you in my admittedly aggressive style (apologies) to chill out a bit and stop dragging down some good debates and to try listening for once. |
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"Let's make a peace pact... You are all emotion and I am all logic (I'm a cult member..) so we just don't understand each other.
Yeah, you're not the first person to try this "oh, you're so emotional, not like me, the logical man that I am" drivel.
It has never been interesting
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It's in the language you use...
"if that makes you FEEL better" is your stand quip
It shows you are an emotional thinker (not a bad thing)
Most of us don't particularly care what others think (or feel) here... It's just a forum and some fun and we're not that fragile...
Anyway we're going off topic and I don't want to ruin things here. Just try to reflect on some of what I said for the betterment of a great place to take the pulse of political opinion
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"Let's make a peace pact... You are all emotion and I am all logic (I'm a cult member..) so we just don't understand each other.
Yeah, you're not the first person to try this "oh, you're so emotional, not like me, the logical man that I am" drivel.
It has never been interesting
It's in the language you use...
"if that makes you FEEL better" is your stand quip
It shows you are an emotional thinker
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That's some stretch, but if you're working backwards from a conclusion it'd be an attractive truism to latch onto.
Here's a better explanation - you want to position the conversation on your terms, and frame it as logic v emotion.
And you might think there's nothing wrong with that, but just have a think over all the times you've ever heard someone being chastised for "getting emotional". Double points for the times you can recall where it wasn't a manly man chastising either a woman, or a stereotypically unfeminine man.
Now, whether or not you're doing this on purpose, I neither know nor care.
But I don't really have much time for it, people like that are ten a penny. |
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If the Torys were good negotiators they wouldnt have triggered A50 without some guarantees on transition and an extended negotiating period. And even beyond that they should have gotten the divorce bill and citizen rights settled early and tried to fold N. Ireland into the future relationship (which makes sense for the 2 to be discussed together) and theyd have tons of time to negotiate a good deal.
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EU would not talk about anything until article 50 was triggered. To rise making a pigs ear of it...but could only start making a pigs ear AFTER triggering A50. No discussion allowed before under EU "rules""
Yeah, that was a negotiation. EU said no discussion before A50 because this would massively strengthen their negotiating position by putting the clock in motion. The torys being a weak governing party bowed to the pressure from the EU and their own impatient constituents who wanted it triggered as soon as possible for no reason at all.
It was the EUs first victory in negotiations and the mistake from the Torys that guaranteed there would be no successful brexit. |
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I think ye're in too deep and assigning all sorts of stuff to genders there... I thought you're into equality and there you are typecasting manly men and girly girls or boys and displaying all sorts of normative scharmatives (that a proud equalitist should hate) about emotions being bad (they are not)
Anyway, before you jump to conclusions I wasn't even slightly going in that direction at all.
I was talking specifically about myers briggs personality assessments or thinking styles where some people sense (or feel) and other people think.
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"I think ye're in too deep and assigning all sorts of stuff to genders there... I thought you're into equality and there you are typecasting manly men and girly girls or boys and displaying all sorts of normative scharmatives (that a proud equalitist should hate) about emotions being bad (they are not)
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You'll be doing well to tie the claims you've made, specifically that "emotions are bad" what I said.
Or indeed, that I aspire to be something as useless as an "equalitist".
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Anyway, before you jump to conclusions I wasn't even slightly going in that direction at all.
I was talking specifically about myers briggs personality assessments or thinking styles where some people sense (or feel) and other people think.
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And, do you not find it strange that you position and pride yourself as one of those "thinkers" and then cast others in the "not thinking" category.
You're at pains to present what you imagine logic to be paramount - and chastise people for not displaying what you think constitute logic and reason, so I'm not convinced you mean what you say.
And again, try to think to the number of times society celebrates great (male) thinkers and works of intellect, and how we treat people who, as you put it don't think but feel.
Whether it's intentional or not, you're trying to frame the conversation in a very definite, and boring, way.
It doesn't help that Myers-Briggs is woeful tripe, but that's the least of your worries. |
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Come off it... You love feminism and the tagline is that feminism is "all about equality" and "for everyone". You've shown your cards of weirdly having something against men (double points for white men... Bizarre seeing as you are one!) by rejecting a label of equalitist.
Sidenote:
Say yes to equality by saying no to feminism folks
Like I said already, I'm urging you to listen... I was trying to offer an olive branch, account for our different styles and find common ground... I perceived you rightly or wrongly to be a more emotional thinker to explain why we disagree on things.
Of course thinking and logic are important.. You wouldn't have a computer or Internet to have this little chat about (or to inhale your shite from...) without the beauty of clear, logical thinking.
Why do you seem to hold it as a trait only for men? That'd a bit weird...
Anyway, way off topic. Have a good night and try to make a point rather than applying the DemonJohnsaysyourwrong stamp left right and centre in future.
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So, along comes Hitler and he does the impossible. In 10 years or so he brings Germany from a bankrupt country in which people were literally starving to death to one of the most prosperous countries in the world.
How did he do it? He created a German currency owned by the German government and German people. Who didn't like this? The federal reserve and their almost worldwide fractional reserve banking system or as I like to call it, the humanity enslaver.
Did I?
Yes "
No. I just pointed out what he did. If you think that made him a good economist then that's on you.
Nice classic lefty try though. |
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"Come off it... You love feminism and the tagline is that feminism is "all about equality" and "for everyone". You've shown your cards of weirdly having something against men (double points for white men... Bizarre seeing as you are one!) by rejecting a label of equalitist.
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Equalism is a farce.
It's born from the same stupid place as "all lives matter".
So, wrong again.
And don't you find it a bit weird that your take away from that was "you must have something against men" as opposed to "there are different standards at play in society".
One being true and your version of events being wrong.
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Like I said already, I'm urging you to listen... I was trying to offer an olive branch, account for our different styles and find common ground... I perceived you rightly or wrongly to be a more emotional thinker to explain why we disagree on things.
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Yes, your "olive branch" that also happened to be born entirely out of the myth of the rational, logical thinker. You must think I came down in the last shower...
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Of course thinking and logic are important.. You wouldn't have a computer or Internet to have this little chat about (or to inhale your shite from...) without the beauty of clear, logical thinking.
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Of course you do. And do you still wonder why I have no time for your patronising "emotional thinker" bullshit? You don't even fucking believe it.
You've constantly tried and failed to frame yourself as a man of logic and reason, and you worship logic, even if you don't have the first clue about it. This tact into Myers-briggs nonsense isn't compelling or convincing.
I'd actually have more time for you if you just owned your cargo-cult style worship of logic, than wasting my time with this.
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Why do you seem to hold it as a trait only for men? That'd a bit weird...
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You're right, that would be weird, wouldn't it.
Good thing I'm not weird.
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Anyway, way off topic. Have a good night and try to make a point rather than applying the DemonJohnsaysyourwrong stamp left right and centre in future.
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Well. If you'd stop being wrong, I'd have an easier time of it. But here we are. |
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I voted leave and I'd keep on voting leave .I never wanted in the damn thing in the first place. The first referendum was meant to be for free trade among nine European countries not this euro super state which let's anyone in and tells you what you can and can't do .we were sold down the line all those years ago .and for all the whinging remainers who have no idea what it was like beforehand get behind this country give brexit a try .you never know you might like it |
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"I voted leave and I'd keep on voting leave .I never wanted in the damn thing in the first place. The first referendum was meant to be for free trade among nine European countries not this euro super state which let's anyone in and tells you what you can and can't do .we were sold down the line all those years ago .and for all the whinging remainers who have no idea what it was like beforehand get behind this country give brexit a try .you never know you might like it "
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I think its strange how pro leavers are considered right wing. I consider those that voted remain voted for more of the same. More capitalism. More cheap labour moving around Europe keeping overheads down so the share holders could reap the benefits. Whereas as those who voted leave were saying "fuck you" to capitalism. Its gone to far. Stop trying to take over the world and look after your own people! |
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" Even if you knew it would lead to economic change, such as the collapse of the banking sector. And depression of the housing market?
YOU don't know that, and cannot prove that.
Most who succeed in life take risk, looks like some here wouldn't even risk crossing a road.
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Leaving the EU will be the best thing the UK has done for a long long time"
You don't know that and cannot prove it. |
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"I think its strange how pro leavers are considered right wing. I consider those that voted remain voted for more of the same. More capitalism. More cheap labour moving around Europe keeping overheads down so the share holders could reap the benefits. Whereas as those who voted leave were saying "fuck you" to capitalism. Its gone to far. Stop trying to take over the world and look after your own people! "
Thats the problem every brexiter projected their own views on to what brexit means for them.
I voted remain but what i like about whats happening now, is that all the cards are up in the air and the britain after brexit will be very different to what people want.I doubt anyone will be truely happy but thats a good place to start and make a different UK . |
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"I think its strange how pro leavers are considered right wing. I consider those that voted remain voted for more of the same. More capitalism. More cheap labour moving around Europe keeping overheads down so the share holders could reap the benefits. Whereas as those who voted leave were saying "fuck you" to capitalism. Its gone to far. Stop trying to take over the world and look after your own people! Thats the problem every brexiter projected their own views on to what brexit means for them.
I voted remain but what i like about whats happening now, is that all the cards are up in the air and the britain after brexit will be very different to what people want.I doubt anyone will be truely happy but thats a good place to start and make a different UK . "
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"I'm just defending the honour of actual debate where you back up your point with a reason.
You just run around the forum telling people they are "yeah, no, you are wrong" ... All vocabulary and no logic"
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I haven't read all the threads but this paragraph is interesting.
Capitalism is great until you come to the end where just like in a game of monopoly, one person owns everything. With 80 families in the world owning half of the world, I'd say we're almost there.
The board game manopoly was invented as a way to teach people about the political ideas of henry george.
Henry george wrote a best selling book in 1879, it sold over a million copies internationaly and was a big influence on lots of of European and American politicians at the time.
The book is basically about not taxing Labour but using land value tax to tax the owners of land.
It's a political idea that almost everyone I have discussed it with agrees on. |
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"I'm just defending the honour of actual debate where you back up your point with a reason.
You just run around the forum telling people they are "yeah, no, you are wrong" ... All vocabulary and no logic"
Stop using logic you ad hominem his just trying to appeal to emotion. |
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"I'm just defending the honour of actual debate where you back up your point with a reason.
You just run around the forum telling people they are "yeah, no, you are wrong" ... All vocabulary and no logic
Stop using logic you ad hominem his just trying to appeal to emotion. "
Word salads are a sign of brain trauma.
If this symptom persists, I'd go see a doctor. |
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"I think its strange how pro leavers are considered right wing. I consider those that voted remain voted for more of the same. More capitalism. More cheap labour moving around Europe keeping overheads down so the share holders could reap the benefits. Whereas as those who voted leave were saying "fuck you" to capitalism. Its gone to far. Stop trying to take over the world and look after your own people! "
Capital will never stop trying to do that. Nation states, borders, culture differences are all inconveniences to capital.
The reason that some on the right voted leave is so that, if in power they could wage war on the working class unfettered by "excessive red tape" from Brussels, like the human rights act and so on.
Leave does offer opportunities to redress the balance in favour of the proles, but they would have to gain some power first. |
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"I think its strange how pro leavers are considered right wing. I consider those that voted remain voted for more of the same. More capitalism. More cheap labour moving around Europe keeping overheads down so the share holders could reap the benefits. Whereas as those who voted leave were saying "fuck you" to capitalism. Its gone to far. Stop trying to take over the world and look after your own people!
Capital will never stop trying to do that. Nation states, borders, culture differences are all inconveniences to capital.
The reason that some on the right voted leave is so that, if in power they could wage war on the working class unfettered by "excessive red tape" from Brussels, like the human rights act and so on.
Leave does offer opportunities to redress the balance in favour of the proles, but they would have to gain some power first. "
I think that sounds a bit paranoid to be honest. I don't think there's enough people who want to wage war on the working class to make that much difference in a national referendum...... but I've been wrong before! |
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By *drianukMan
over a year ago
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Medium term and long term we will prosper by rejoining the rest of the world.
Short term, well, the EU seems to be prepared to cut off their nose to spite their face.
I am meeting lots of people who voted Remain who now want the country to get on with leaving |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"I think its strange how pro leavers are considered right wing. I consider those that voted remain voted for more of the same. More capitalism. More cheap labour moving around Europe keeping overheads down so the share holders could reap the benefits. Whereas as those who voted leave were saying "fuck you" to capitalism. Its gone to far. Stop trying to take over the world and look after your own people!
Capital will never stop trying to do that. Nation states, borders, culture differences are all inconveniences to capital.
The reason that some on the right voted leave is so that, if in power they could wage war on the working class unfettered by "excessive red tape" from Brussels, like the human rights act and so on.
Leave does offer opportunities to redress the balance in favour of the proles, but they would have to gain some power first.
I think that sounds a bit paranoid to be honest. I don't think there's enough people who want to wage war on the working class to make that much difference in a national referendum...... but I've been wrong before! "
They don't call it "waging war on the working class", they call it "removal of excessive red tape" and sell it through the newspapers as "necessary to keep Britain prosperous". This is the thing about the EU - there are provisions in it to protect workers (however begrudgingly I feel that they are given). Leaving the EU would give those in power to remove even more protections, unfettered, or to take some bold steps that would hit snags given current EU rules (re-nationalisation of utilities, for example). It just depends who gets power.
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"Medium term and long term we will prosper by rejoining the rest of the world.
Short term, well, the EU seems to be prepared to cut off their nose to spite their face.
I am meeting lots of people who voted Remain who now want the country to get on with leaving"
Meduim to long term, it'll make no difference at all.
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I'm sure the rest of the people in the other countries are watching to see how well we do outside the EU
If it's a success you can bet it will be the begging of the end for the EU as other countries want out
Also how are Germany and France going to prop it all up without our millions flooding into the EU |
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Also how are Germany and France going to prop it all up without our millions flooding into the EU"
Just fine. The UK is prone to overestimating its importance. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Also how are Germany and France going to prop it all up without our millions flooding into the EU
Just fine. The UK is prone to overestimating its importance.
So says someone not in the EU"
Yes. And what difference do you imagine that makes? |
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Also how are Germany and France going to prop it all up without our millions flooding into the EU
Just fine. The UK is prone to overestimating its importance.
So says someone not in the EU
Yes. And what difference do you imagine that makes?"
I've heard it can make people bitter. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd actually have more time for you if you just owned your cargo-cult style worship of logic, than wasting my time with this.
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What's the alternative? To purposefully be irrational?
Would you to prefer if I joined your ill-logic crew?
What emotion is all this anger coming from? Bullied in school? Stress at work?
You're making a tit of yourself by trolling the forum repeatedly
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By (user no longer on site)
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Why do you seem to hold it as a trait only for men? That'd a bit weird...
It's amusing seeing you big yourself up as a master of logic when you don't even have basic reading comprehension. "
Maybe it's just the contrast with someone who gets so tied up in the big words he read on some nifty article that he confuses the double and triple negatives he uses to ultimately says the opposite of what he meant and consistently contradicts his own point over and over in layers by trying to argue the opposite of everything with everyone.... and then gets upset when called out on it |
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Why do you seem to hold it as a trait only for men? That'd a bit weird...
It's amusing seeing you big yourself up as a master of logic when you don't even have basic reading comprehension.
Maybe it's just the contrast with someone who gets so tied up in the big words he read on some nifty article that he confuses the double and triple negatives he uses to ultimately says the opposite of what he meant and consistently contradicts his own point over and over in layers by trying to argue the opposite of everything with everyone.... and then gets upset when called out on it "
I make a point of knowing what words mean before using them. Can you say the same? |
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I'd actually have more time for you if you just owned your cargo-cult style worship of logic, than wasting my time with this.
What's the alternative? To purposefully be irrational?
Would you to prefer if I joined your ill-logic crew?
What emotion is all this anger coming from? Bullied in school? Stress at work?
You're making a tit of yourself by trolling the forum repeatedly
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I don't think you quite get the significance of the phrase "cargo cult". |
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Why do you seem to hold it as a trait only for men? That'd a bit weird...
It's amusing seeing you big yourself up as a master of logic when you don't even have basic reading comprehension.
Maybe it's just the contrast with someone who gets so tied up in the big words he read on some nifty article that he confuses the double and triple negatives he uses to ultimately says the opposite of what he meant and consistently contradicts his own point over and over in layers by trying to argue the opposite of everything with everyone.... and then gets upset when called out on it "
Nah. It's just that you think you're an awful lot smarter than you are. It comes across really strongly every time you post. You mistake your lack of comprehension as being a lack of substance.
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By (user no longer on site)
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I remember my teenage years where we used to lock horns and rut to impress the females....
These forums remind of it all the time, aghhh the good ol days |
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By (user no longer on site)
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That's why I'm here (in the forum) lads... to debate and learn and gleam some wisdom from others
You are right I haven't a clue what a cargo cult or how it applies here. Tell me.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That's why I'm here (in the forum) lads... to debate and learn and gleam some wisdom from others
You are right I haven't a clue what a cargo cult or how it applies here. Tell me.
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Then you'll be interested in the section marked "Metaphorical uses of the term" of the Wikipedia entry for the term cargo cult. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"That awkward moment when you have to explain your own joke.."
He understands all the words he uses (thanks wikipedia).
I'm still none the wiser what a cargo cult logistician is? Would you explain please DemonJohn? I'm a bit thick.
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"That awkward moment when you have to explain your own joke..
He understands all the words he uses (thanks wikipedia).
I'm still none the wiser what a cargo cult logistician is? Would you explain please DemonJohn? I'm a bit thick.
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No, you're not.
You'll put two and two together, eventually. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"LIFE WILL BE FAR BETTER WHEN WE FULLY LEAVE THE E.U."
I'll give it about 40 years to recover from the shit fest of extracting ourselves from the stinging tentacles of this Jellyfish of an organisation. Hind sight is a wonderful thing. |
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" Even if you knew it would lead to economic change, such as the collapse of the banking sector. And depression of the housing market?"
I voted leave
and now; all the more determined now that the press & news teams are telling us how wrong we are and what we should do now.
If the BBC are so dam perfect they would be able to stand on their own 2 feet without needing funding from every person in UK with a tv.
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Sooner we get away from E.U. Corruption the better.
We can all survive this and it will make the UK a greater, stronger place to live. |
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