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"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive." Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? " I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? " Here's an idea see if you email the SNP and find out. So you are moaning about an SNP to set up a public owned energy company? At least the SNP are doing something to improve energy What is the UK government doing to make Energy more affordable for people ? | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? Here's an idea see if you email the SNP and find out. So you are moaning about an SNP to set up a public owned energy company? At least the SNP are doing something to improve energy What is the UK government doing to make Energy more affordable for people ? " No, Im asking how do you know it will be cheaper? | |||
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"You are not "leading the way" Nottingham has had the not for profit "Robin Hood Energy" scheme since September 2015. " Ok whats the UK policy ? Are you moaning about Scotland having a public owned energy company ? | |||
"You are not "leading the way" Nottingham has had the not for profit "Robin Hood Energy" scheme since September 2015. Ok whats the UK policy ? Are you moaning about Scotland having a public owned energy company ? " Scotland has devolved powers and can do what it likes within those powers. I'm simply quoting facts. | |||
"You are not "leading the way" Nottingham has had the not for profit "Robin Hood Energy" scheme since September 2015. Ok whats the UK policy ? Are you moaning about Scotland having a public owned energy company ? Scotland has devolved powers and can do what it likes within those powers. I'm simply quoting facts." Yup Scotland has devolved powers just a shame unionists do not want to devolve real powers eh Instead unionists want our Scottish government to only mitigate Tory cuts rather than devolve powers to Scotland Everyone knows fine well the welfare powers were not gonna be 100% devolved to Scotland thats not Home Rule | |||
"You are not "leading the way" Nottingham has had the not for profit "Robin Hood Energy" scheme since September 2015. " P.s your talking about a region of England not a country Scotland as a country is leading the UK Shame the UK government will not do they same eh the want private companies making money and screw the poor | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? " . Your UK government?. You mean our UK government!. You know the same one that you have  | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? . Your UK government?. You mean our UK government!. You know the same one that you have "No no Scotland has a devolved parliament in Edinburgh called Holyrood Also Scotland voters didnt elect a majority of Scottish Tories the majority vote went to the SNP England voted Tory hey thats what you wanted fair enough but Scotland didnt So its your UK government not mine the Tories can fuck off!!! They aint my government | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? " actually you'll find that is labour party paolicy which was in their 2017 general election manifesto.... but that is still not answering the simple question.... how would it be cheaper? they are well within their rights to set up a state owned energy company.... they are not in effect any different from any of the competition and they will own the infrustructure... unless they are going to operate it as a "non for profit" organisation, which is not part of their plan.... people will still have to switch to this "state owned company" what this would do at best is create a price war.... they can basically freeze or try to undercut the competition... but at the end of the day... you need to be able to cover all your costs.... also if you are saying that scotland are underspending.... are you saying they will run it as a loss making company????? | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? actually you'll find that is labour party paolicy which was in their 2017 general election manifesto.... but that is still not answering the simple question.... how would it be cheaper? they are well within their rights to set up a state owned energy company.... they are not in effect any different from any of the competition and they will own the infrustructure... unless they are going to operate it as a "non for profit" organisation, which is not part of their plan.... people will still have to switch to this "state owned company" what this would do at best is create a price war.... they can basically freeze or try to undercut the competition... but at the end of the day... you need to be able to cover all your costs.... also if you are saying that scotland are underspending.... are you saying they will run it as a loss making company?????" What am saying is Scotland budget is under spend so there is money there to be used if need be just incase the Tories bring any other shite cuts Scotland didnt vote for there is money to protect us Scottish people since unionists do NOT want to devolve real fucking power to Scotland they only want Scotland to keep mitigating Tory cuts Dont tell me you want the Scotland government to overspend ? That would be crazy for someone to say that and admit that wanting that to happen | |||
" What am saying is Scotland budget is under spend so there is money there to be used if need be just incase the Tories bring any other shite cuts Scotland didnt vote for there is money to protect us Scottish people since unionists do NOT want to devolve real fucking power to Scotland they only want Scotland to keep mitigating Tory cuts Dont tell me you want the Scotland government to overspend ? That would be crazy for someone to say that and admit that wanting that to happen " so the fact that scotland are underspending has absolutely NOTHING to do in context with the topic of a state owned Energy company.... so why bring it up? 
that is why i asked if they are proposing to used that money to prop up your new state owed energy company... if the answer is no, then you brought it up to muddy the waters...
so lets go back to YOUR topic....
are they going to undercut the current suppliers.... unless they anounce they are going to run it as a "not for profit" enterprise.... they are going to have to fun it at a commercial level otherwise they will fall foul of EU law for tampering and manipulation.....
also bearing in my that it looks like the price cap bill is going to be brought forward next week, you might find there is going to be either very little or no scope for a state owned company to undercut the current manufacture's.....
also ironically the companies any state owned energy providers will drive to the wall first are going to be the smaller companies.....
but if a state owned energy company want to fight with SSE for example and they think that is the best way to invest money.... then have at it.....
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so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????  | |||
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"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? Here's an idea see if you email the SNP and find out. So you are moaning about an SNP to set up a public owned energy company? At least the SNP are doing something to improve energy What is the UK government doing to make Energy more affordable for people ? " Ha ha SNP can't even educate its own kids properly . . That little witch Sturgeon has overseen standards in education fall thru the floor . . . now they're promising state owned power? Go boil yer heed | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? Here's an idea see if you email the SNP and find out. So you are moaning about an SNP to set up a public owned energy company? At least the SNP are doing something to improve energy What is the UK government doing to make Energy more affordable for people ? Ha ha SNP can't even educate its own kids properly . . That little witch Sturgeon has overseen standards in education fall thru the floor . . . now they're promising state owned power? Go boil yer heed " Offt very nice of you to say boil my heed lol Ok you think SNP are failing education fair enough Problem though the voters dont agree with you as the SNP were elected in 2007 , 2011 , 2016 in the Scottish elections I already caught a unionist out on social media claiming the only reason the SNP have one elections is because of independence he was not bright enough to see his mistake of claiming that lol Which country in the UK right now has the best record in education ? Anyone bold enough to admit its Scotland ? So you not happy to have a state owned energy company ? Would you right a private company ? Thats very socialist lol | |||
"Not in football your not leading the way Gordon Strachan thinks you all need to grow up more "Lol we all know Scotland are shite when it comes to football but we do have the best fans we know we are pish but we have the good old Scottish banter England aint the much better btw under Southgate its like watching paint dry lol | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? " Underspending what? The money the rest of the UK give them under the Barnet Formula? | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ? Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box? | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? Underspending what? The money the rest of the UK give them under the Barnet Formula?" Oh my ! Lol So are you about to say money that is raised in Scotland does not get send down to Westminster for the treasury to give Scotland some of that money back ? Also did you know see before the SNP took office back in 2007 Scottish Labour branch send 1 billion of Scotland's under-spend because they didn't have a fucking clue what to spend it on any clue on why Scottish Labour aint in government in Scotland anymore ? lol Its better being underspend that having an overspend and any money doesnt dont get spend carries on to the next year thanks to the SNP none of that money goes down to wankers to screw up just like their doing with the UK economy lol Some people seem to think Scotland's people are fucking leeches / subsidy junkies i got news for you if you think that then why does a government that seem hell bend on cutting people's ESA /PIP why not let a Scotland go then if we leech off England there is the problem Westminster know they need Scotland or they are royally fucked!!! | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. All anyone knows until it's up and running is that it'll be 'not for profit' and as near to cost as possible' so sounds likely to be cheaper but time will tell. " | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
"plagiarism: noun the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago... so again....... "are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? " I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
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"Not in football your not leading the way Gordon Strachan thinks you all need to grow up more
Lol we all know Scotland are shite when it comes to football but we do have the best fans we know we are pish but we have the good old Scottish banter
England aint the much better btw under Southgate its like watching paint dry lol"Id rather watch paint dry ...so i agree with you there lol | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
"The SNP invented sliced bread | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
"Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it Talk about plagiarism Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
The SNP invented sliced bread "Must piss you off eh that up here in Scotland we have a government that is outperforming the rest of the UK in many things where as the government you have is fucking shocking adding the the UK debt , taking money off the poor and disabled offt not good | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
"I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know "Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007 Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
"You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt  | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt "Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ? This is the council tax crap all over again now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you 2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
"No right over your head....read back on your own post | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post "Again you dont seem to have an answer to this 1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt | |||
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"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? . Your UK government?. You mean our UK government!. You know the same one that you have
No no
Scotland has a devolved parliament in Edinburgh called Holyrood
Also Scotland voters didnt elect a majority of Scottish Tories the majority vote went to the SNP
England voted Tory hey thats what you wanted fair enough but Scotland didnt
So its your UK government not mine the Tories can fuck off!!! They aint my government". What's that got to do with shit, did Yorkshire vote Tory, did Cornwall, did Wales?... It's still our government wether we like it or not, that's called democracy, grow some balls and deal with it p  | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
"Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party | |||
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"Reserved powers The UK Parliament retains control over a whole range of national affairs. These are called reserved powers, and they include: constitutional matters UK defence and national security UK foreign policy immigration and nationality UK economic and monetary policy (other than Scotland's tax-varying power) energy: electricity, coal, gas and nuclear power employment legislation social security (the DWP - Department for Work and Pensions) some aspects of transport, including railways, safety and regulation regulation of certain professions such as medicine and dentistry others, such as data protection, broadcasting, gambling and the National Lottery Oh look -- energy: electricity, coal, gas and nuclear power Its not devolved to Scotland. Scottish Labour branch in 2015 put in their manifesto they would outright ban fracking strange thing is how the fuck could Scottish Labour branch ban fracking when its NOT devolved oh the must think people are thick as mince lol Also same Scottish Labour branch said before that election they would allow local area to decide if they wanted fracking Jan 2015 Labour abstained on a UK wide moratorium Labour in Scotland want to treat the voters as if they are thick then we the voters will tell Scottish Labour branch to get to fuck and take the Tories with you lol" Are you drinking the Tennants extra stong shite they sell up there | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? . Your UK government?. You mean our UK government!. You know the same one that you have
No no
Scotland has a devolved parliament in Edinburgh called Holyrood
Also Scotland voters didnt elect a majority of Scottish Tories the majority vote went to the SNP
England voted Tory hey thats what you wanted fair enough but Scotland didnt
So its your UK government not mine the Tories can fuck off!!! They aint my government.
What's that got to do with shit, did Yorkshire vote Tory, did Cornwall, did Wales?... It's still our government wether we like it or not, that's called democracy, grow some balls and deal with it p "Your quoting regions of England Nope Scotland has its own government. England did vote Tory you got what you wanted Scotland didnt vote Tory so the UK government aint my government i dont vote for sick fucks!! | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party "Interesting So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ? | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ? "England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ?
England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then "Wow so your telling me you do not think England is a country ? Why do you think very little of your own country that your calling it a region ? Wow just wow So there is not 4 countries that are in the UK now ? LMAO!!!!!!!!! You do know the UK is a union ? So out of interest do you call the EU one country ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ?
England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then
Wow so your telling me you do not think England is a country ? Why do you think very little of your own country that your calling it a region ?
Wow just wow
So there is not 4 countries that are in the UK now ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
You do know the UK is a union ?
So out of interest do you call the EU one country ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!"Missed the point yet again...and again failed to accept you made a mistake about nationalised companies....tbh i could give a fuck what the SNP do or Jimmy Krankie if im honest....but you my friend are really a bit of a hypocrite | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ?
England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then
Wow so your telling me you do not think England is a country ? Why do you think very little of your own country that your calling it a region ?
Wow just wow
So there is not 4 countries that are in the UK now ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
You do know the UK is a union ?
So out of interest do you call the EU one country ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed the point yet again...and again failed to accept you made a mistake about nationalised companies....tbh i could give a fuck what the SNP do or Jimmy Krankie if im honest....but you my friend are really a bit of a hypocrite "Come on is the UK a union ? Do you call the EU one country ? Your the first ever that i have seen said you think England is a region only and you dont think England is a country lol Why do you think so low of your own country to call it a region ? | |||
"Reserved powers The UK Parliament retains control over a whole range of national affairs. These are called reserved powers, and they include: constitutional matters UK defence and national security UK foreign policy immigration and nationality UK economic and monetary policy (other than Scotland's tax-varying power) energy: electricity, coal, gas and nuclear power employment legislation social security (the DWP - Department for Work and Pensions) some aspects of transport, including railways, safety and regulation regulation of certain professions such as medicine and dentistry others, such as data protection, broadcasting, gambling and the National Lottery Oh look -- energy: electricity, coal, gas and nuclear power Its not devolved to Scotland. Scottish Labour branch in 2015 put in their manifesto they would outright ban fracking strange thing is how the fuck could Scottish Labour branch ban fracking when its NOT devolved oh the must think people are thick as mince lol Also same Scottish Labour branch said before that election they would allow local area to decide if they wanted fracking Jan 2015 Labour abstained on a UK wide moratorium Labour in Scotland want to treat the voters as if they are thick then we the voters will tell Scottish Labour branch to get to fuck and take the Tories with you lol" you do know that "energy: electricity, coal, gas and nuclear power" relates to the building of such plants and relating that to the national grid don't you????? it has "f all" to do with your state owned energy company without its the UK goverment that owns all the infrusture your "state owned" energy company would run on the same basis as SSE, or Eon for example.... | |||
"Reserved powers The UK Parliament retains control over a whole range of national affairs. These are called reserved powers, and they include: constitutional matters UK defence and national security UK foreign policy immigration and nationality UK economic and monetary policy (other than Scotland's tax-varying power) energy: electricity, coal, gas and nuclear power employment legislation social security (the DWP - Department for Work and Pensions) some aspects of transport, including railways, safety and regulation regulation of certain professions such as medicine and dentistry others, such as data protection, broadcasting, gambling and the National Lottery Oh look -- energy: electricity, coal, gas and nuclear power Its not devolved to Scotland. Scottish Labour branch in 2015 put in their manifesto they would outright ban fracking strange thing is how the fuck could Scottish Labour branch ban fracking when its NOT devolved oh the must think people are thick as mince lol Also same Scottish Labour branch said before that election they would allow local area to decide if they wanted fracking Jan 2015 Labour abstained on a UK wide moratorium Labour in Scotland want to treat the voters as if they are thick then we the voters will tell Scottish Labour branch to get to fuck and take the Tories with you lol you do know that "energy: electricity, coal, gas and nuclear power" relates to the building of such plants and relating that to the national grid don't you????? it has "f all" to do with your state owned energy company without its the UK goverment that owns all the infrusture your "state owned" energy company would run on the same basis as SSE, or Eon for example...." No he dosent....the way he goes on about Labour you would think they had won the last 3 elections up there....or maybe the SNP are running scared of Labour | |||
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"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ?
England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then
Wow so your telling me you do not think England is a country ? Why do you think very little of your own country that your calling it a region ?
Wow just wow
So there is not 4 countries that are in the UK now ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
You do know the UK is a union ?
So out of interest do you call the EU one country ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed the point yet again...and again failed to accept you made a mistake about nationalised companies....tbh i could give a fuck what the SNP do or Jimmy Krankie if im honest....but you my friend are really a bit of a hypocrite
Come on is the UK a union ?
Do you call the EU one country ?
Your the first ever that i have seen said you think England is a region only and you dont think England is a country lol Why do you think so low of your own country to call it a region ?"Geographic Regions of the United Kingdom Learn about the 4 Regions that Make Up the United Kingdom The United Kingdom is an island nation in Western Europe on the island of Great Britain, part of the island of Ireland and several other small islands. The UK has a total area of 94,058 square miles (243,610 sq km) and a coastline of 7,723 miles (12,429 m). The population of the UK is 62,698,362 people (July 2011 estimate) and the capital. The UK is made up of four different regions that are not independent nations. These regions are England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. The following is a list of the UK's four regions and some information about each. All information was obtained from Wikipedia.org. England is the largest of the four geographical regions making up the United Kingdom. It is bordered by Scotland to the north and Wales to the west and it has coastlines along Celtic, North and Irish Seas and the English Channel. Its total land area is 50,346 square miles (130,395 sq km) and a population of 51,446,000 people (2008 estimate). The capital and largest city of England (and the UK) is London. The topography of England consists mainly of gently rolling hills and lowlands. There are several large rivers in England and the most famous and longest of these is the Thames River that runs through London. England is separated from continental Europe 21 mile (34 km) English Channel but they are connected by the undersea Channel Tunnel Scotland is the second largest of the four regions making up the UK. It is located on the northern part of Great Britain and it borders England to the south and has coastlines along the North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Its area is 30,414 square miles (78,772 sq km) and it has a population of 5,194,000 (2009 estimate). Scotland's area also includes almost 800 offshore islands. The capital of Scotland is Edinburgh but the largest city is Glasgow. The topography of Scotland is varied and its northern portions have high mountain ranges, while the central portion consists of lowlands and the south has gently rolling hills and uplands. Despite its latitude, the climate of Scotland is temperate because of the Gulf Stream Wales is a region of the United Kingdom that is bordered by England to the east and the Atlantic Ocean and Irish Sea to the west. It has an area of 8,022 square miles (20,779 sq km) and a population of 2,999,300 people (2009 estimate). The capital and largest city of Wales is Cardiff with a metropolitan population of 1,445,500 (2009 estimate). Wales has a coastline of 746 miles (1,200 km) which includes the coastlines of its many offshore islands. The largest of these is Anglesey in the Irish Sea. The topography of Wales consists mainly of mountains and its highest peak is Snowdon at 3,560 feet (1,085 m). Wales has a temperate, maritime climate and it is one of the wettest regions in Europe. Winters in Wales are mild and summers are warm. Northern Ireland is a region of the United Kingdom that is located in the northern part of the island of Ireland. It borders the Republic of Ireland to the south and west and has coastlines along the Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Northern Ireland has an area of 5,345 square miles (13,843 sq km), making it the smallest of the UK's regions. The population of Northern Ireland is 1,789,000 (2009 estimate) and the capital and largest city is Belfast. The topography of Northern Ireland is varied and consists of both uplands and valleys. Lough Neagh is a large lake located in the center of Northern Ireland and with an area of 151 square miles (391 sq km) it is the largest lake in the British Isles https://www.thoughtco.com/geographic-regions-of-the-united-kingdom-1435712 NOW ARGUE THAT!!!!! | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ?
England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then
Wow so your telling me you do not think England is a country ? Why do you think very little of your own country that your calling it a region ?
Wow just wow
So there is not 4 countries that are in the UK now ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
You do know the UK is a union ?
So out of interest do you call the EU one country ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed the point yet again...and again failed to accept you made a mistake about nationalised companies....tbh i could give a fuck what the SNP do or Jimmy Krankie if im honest....but you my friend are really a bit of a hypocrite
Come on is the UK a union ?
Do you call the EU one country ?
Your the first ever that i have seen said you think England is a region only and you dont think England is a country lol Why do you think so low of your own country to call it a region ?
Geographic Regions of the United Kingdom
Learn about the 4 Regions that Make Up the United Kingdom
The United Kingdom is an island nation in Western Europe on the island of Great Britain, part of the island of Ireland and several other small islands. The UK has a total area of 94,058 square miles (243,610 sq km) and a coastline of 7,723 miles (12,429 m). The population of the UK is 62,698,362 people (July 2011 estimate) and the capital. The UK is made up of four different regions that are not independent nations. These regions are England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
The following is a list of the UK's four regions and some information about each. All information was obtained from Wikipedia.org.
England is the largest of the four geographical regions making up the United Kingdom. It is bordered by Scotland to the north and Wales to the west and it has coastlines along Celtic, North and Irish Seas and the English Channel. Its total land area is 50,346 square miles (130,395 sq km) and a population of 51,446,000 people (2008 estimate). The capital and largest city of England (and the UK) is London. The topography of England consists mainly of gently rolling hills and lowlands. There are several large rivers in England and the most famous and longest of these is the Thames River that runs through London.
England is separated from continental Europe 21 mile (34 km) English Channel but they are connected by the undersea Channel Tunnel
Scotland is the second largest of the four regions making up the UK. It is located on the northern part of Great Britain and it borders England to the south and has coastlines along the North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Its area is 30,414 square miles (78,772 sq km) and it has a population of 5,194,000 (2009 estimate). Scotland's area also includes almost 800 offshore islands. The capital of Scotland is Edinburgh but the largest city is Glasgow.
The topography of Scotland is varied and its northern portions have high mountain ranges, while the central portion consists of lowlands and the south has gently rolling hills and uplands. Despite its latitude, the climate of Scotland is temperate because of the Gulf Stream
Wales is a region of the United Kingdom that is bordered by England to the east and the Atlantic Ocean and Irish Sea to the west. It has an area of 8,022 square miles (20,779 sq km) and a population of 2,999,300 people (2009 estimate). The capital and largest city of Wales is Cardiff with a metropolitan population of 1,445,500 (2009 estimate). Wales has a coastline of 746 miles (1,200 km) which includes the coastlines of its many offshore islands. The largest of these is Anglesey in the Irish Sea.
The topography of Wales consists mainly of mountains and its highest peak is Snowdon at 3,560 feet (1,085 m). Wales has a temperate, maritime climate and it is one of the wettest regions in Europe. Winters in Wales are mild and summers are warm.
Northern Ireland is a region of the United Kingdom that is located in the northern part of the island of Ireland. It borders the Republic of Ireland to the south and west and has coastlines along the Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Northern Ireland has an area of 5,345 square miles (13,843 sq km), making it the smallest of the UK's regions. The population of Northern Ireland is 1,789,000 (2009 estimate) and the capital and largest city is Belfast.
The topography of Northern Ireland is varied and consists of both uplands and valleys. Lough Neagh is a large lake located in the center of Northern Ireland and with an area of 151 square miles (391 sq km) it is the largest lake in the British Isles
https://www.thoughtco.com/geographic-regions-of-the-united-kingdom-1435712
NOW ARGUE THAT!!!!!
"Argue what ? All is see is people think so low of England that they are not proud enough to call England a country lol its rather embarrassing lol England is a country just as Scotland is and Wales and N.Ireland Whats with the shouting calm down man have a wee hot chocolate lol | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ?
England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then
Wow so your telling me you do not think England is a country ? Why do you think very little of your own country that your calling it a region ?
Wow just wow
So there is not 4 countries that are in the UK now ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
You do know the UK is a union ?
So out of interest do you call the EU one country ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed the point yet again...and again failed to accept you made a mistake about nationalised companies....tbh i could give a fuck what the SNP do or Jimmy Krankie if im honest....but you my friend are really a bit of a hypocrite
Come on is the UK a union ?
Do you call the EU one country ?
Your the first ever that i have seen said you think England is a region only and you dont think England is a country lol Why do you think so low of your own country to call it a region ?
Geographic Regions of the United Kingdom
Learn about the 4 Regions that Make Up the United Kingdom
The United Kingdom is an island nation in Western Europe on the island of Great Britain, part of the island of Ireland and several other small islands. The UK has a total area of 94,058 square miles (243,610 sq km) and a coastline of 7,723 miles (12,429 m). The population of the UK is 62,698,362 people (July 2011 estimate) and the capital. The UK is made up of four different regions that are not independent nations. These regions are England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
The following is a list of the UK's four regions and some information about each. All information was obtained from Wikipedia.org.
England is the largest of the four geographical regions making up the United Kingdom. It is bordered by Scotland to the north and Wales to the west and it has coastlines along Celtic, North and Irish Seas and the English Channel. Its total land area is 50,346 square miles (130,395 sq km) and a population of 51,446,000 people (2008 estimate). The capital and largest city of England (and the UK) is London. The topography of England consists mainly of gently rolling hills and lowlands. There are several large rivers in England and the most famous and longest of these is the Thames River that runs through London.
England is separated from continental Europe 21 mile (34 km) English Channel but they are connected by the undersea Channel Tunnel
Scotland is the second largest of the four regions making up the UK. It is located on the northern part of Great Britain and it borders England to the south and has coastlines along the North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Its area is 30,414 square miles (78,772 sq km) and it has a population of 5,194,000 (2009 estimate). Scotland's area also includes almost 800 offshore islands. The capital of Scotland is Edinburgh but the largest city is Glasgow.
The topography of Scotland is varied and its northern portions have high mountain ranges, while the central portion consists of lowlands and the south has gently rolling hills and uplands. Despite its latitude, the climate of Scotland is temperate because of the Gulf Stream
Wales is a region of the United Kingdom that is bordered by England to the east and the Atlantic Ocean and Irish Sea to the west. It has an area of 8,022 square miles (20,779 sq km) and a population of 2,999,300 people (2009 estimate). The capital and largest city of Wales is Cardiff with a metropolitan population of 1,445,500 (2009 estimate). Wales has a coastline of 746 miles (1,200 km) which includes the coastlines of its many offshore islands. The largest of these is Anglesey in the Irish Sea.
The topography of Wales consists mainly of mountains and its highest peak is Snowdon at 3,560 feet (1,085 m). Wales has a temperate, maritime climate and it is one of the wettest regions in Europe. Winters in Wales are mild and summers are warm.
Northern Ireland is a region of the United Kingdom that is located in the northern part of the island of Ireland. It borders the Republic of Ireland to the south and west and has coastlines along the Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Northern Ireland has an area of 5,345 square miles (13,843 sq km), making it the smallest of the UK's regions. The population of Northern Ireland is 1,789,000 (2009 estimate) and the capital and largest city is Belfast.
The topography of Northern Ireland is varied and consists of both uplands and valleys. Lough Neagh is a large lake located in the center of Northern Ireland and with an area of 151 square miles (391 sq km) it is the largest lake in the British Isles
https://www.thoughtco.com/geographic-regions-of-the-united-kingdom-1435712
NOW ARGUE THAT!!!!!
Argue what ? All is see is people think so low of England that they are not proud enough to call England a country lol its rather embarrassing lol
England is a country just as Scotland is and Wales and N.Ireland
Whats with the shouting calm down man have a wee hot chocolate lol
"Obviously your great Scottish education failed you .....Big Style | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ?
England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then
Wow so your telling me you do not think England is a country ? Why do you think very little of your own country that your calling it a region ?
Wow just wow
So there is not 4 countries that are in the UK now ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
You do know the UK is a union ?
So out of interest do you call the EU one country ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed the point yet again...and again failed to accept you made a mistake about nationalised companies....tbh i could give a fuck what the SNP do or Jimmy Krankie if im honest....but you my friend are really a bit of a hypocrite
Come on is the UK a union ?
Do you call the EU one country ?
Your the first ever that i have seen said you think England is a region only and you dont think England is a country lol Why do you think so low of your own country to call it a region ?
Geographic Regions of the United Kingdom
Learn about the 4 Regions that Make Up the United Kingdom
The United Kingdom is an island nation in Western Europe on the island of Great Britain, part of the island of Ireland and several other small islands. The UK has a total area of 94,058 square miles (243,610 sq km) and a coastline of 7,723 miles (12,429 m). The population of the UK is 62,698,362 people (July 2011 estimate) and the capital. The UK is made up of four different regions that are not independent nations. These regions are England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
The following is a list of the UK's four regions and some information about each. All information was obtained from Wikipedia.org.
England is the largest of the four geographical regions making up the United Kingdom. It is bordered by Scotland to the north and Wales to the west and it has coastlines along Celtic, North and Irish Seas and the English Channel. Its total land area is 50,346 square miles (130,395 sq km) and a population of 51,446,000 people (2008 estimate). The capital and largest city of England (and the UK) is London. The topography of England consists mainly of gently rolling hills and lowlands. There are several large rivers in England and the most famous and longest of these is the Thames River that runs through London.
England is separated from continental Europe 21 mile (34 km) English Channel but they are connected by the undersea Channel Tunnel
Scotland is the second largest of the four regions making up the UK. It is located on the northern part of Great Britain and it borders England to the south and has coastlines along the North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Its area is 30,414 square miles (78,772 sq km) and it has a population of 5,194,000 (2009 estimate). Scotland's area also includes almost 800 offshore islands. The capital of Scotland is Edinburgh but the largest city is Glasgow.
The topography of Scotland is varied and its northern portions have high mountain ranges, while the central portion consists of lowlands and the south has gently rolling hills and uplands. Despite its latitude, the climate of Scotland is temperate because of the Gulf Stream
Wales is a region of the United Kingdom that is bordered by England to the east and the Atlantic Ocean and Irish Sea to the west. It has an area of 8,022 square miles (20,779 sq km) and a population of 2,999,300 people (2009 estimate). The capital and largest city of Wales is Cardiff with a metropolitan population of 1,445,500 (2009 estimate). Wales has a coastline of 746 miles (1,200 km) which includes the coastlines of its many offshore islands. The largest of these is Anglesey in the Irish Sea.
The topography of Wales consists mainly of mountains and its highest peak is Snowdon at 3,560 feet (1,085 m). Wales has a temperate, maritime climate and it is one of the wettest regions in Europe. Winters in Wales are mild and summers are warm.
Northern Ireland is a region of the United Kingdom that is located in the northern part of the island of Ireland. It borders the Republic of Ireland to the south and west and has coastlines along the Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Northern Ireland has an area of 5,345 square miles (13,843 sq km), making it the smallest of the UK's regions. The population of Northern Ireland is 1,789,000 (2009 estimate) and the capital and largest city is Belfast.
The topography of Northern Ireland is varied and consists of both uplands and valleys. Lough Neagh is a large lake located in the center of Northern Ireland and with an area of 151 square miles (391 sq km) it is the largest lake in the British Isles
https://www.thoughtco.com/geographic-regions-of-the-united-kingdom-1435712
NOW ARGUE THAT!!!!!
Argue what ? All is see is people think so low of England that they are not proud enough to call England a country lol its rather embarrassing lol
England is a country just as Scotland is and Wales and N.Ireland
Whats with the shouting calm down man have a wee hot chocolate lol
Obviously your great Scottish education failed you .....Big Style "You calmed down ? lol get some hot chocolate in you hehe So do you think the EU is one country ? Do you think the 27 countries in the EU are just regions ? lol | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ?
England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then
Wow so your telling me you do not think England is a country ? Why do you think very little of your own country that your calling it a region ?
Wow just wow
So there is not 4 countries that are in the UK now ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
You do know the UK is a union ?
So out of interest do you call the EU one country ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed the point yet again...and again failed to accept you made a mistake about nationalised companies....tbh i could give a fuck what the SNP do or Jimmy Krankie if im honest....but you my friend are really a bit of a hypocrite
Come on is the UK a union ?
Do you call the EU one country ?
Your the first ever that i have seen said you think England is a region only and you dont think England is a country lol Why do you think so low of your own country to call it a region ?
Geographic Regions of the United Kingdom
Learn about the 4 Regions that Make Up the United Kingdom
The United Kingdom is an island nation in Western Europe on the island of Great Britain, part of the island of Ireland and several other small islands. The UK has a total area of 94,058 square miles (243,610 sq km) and a coastline of 7,723 miles (12,429 m). The population of the UK is 62,698,362 people (July 2011 estimate) and the capital. The UK is made up of four different regions that are not independent nations. These regions are England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
The following is a list of the UK's four regions and some information about each. All information was obtained from Wikipedia.org.
England is the largest of the four geographical regions making up the United Kingdom. It is bordered by Scotland to the north and Wales to the west and it has coastlines along Celtic, North and Irish Seas and the English Channel. Its total land area is 50,346 square miles (130,395 sq km) and a population of 51,446,000 people (2008 estimate). The capital and largest city of England (and the UK) is London. The topography of England consists mainly of gently rolling hills and lowlands. There are several large rivers in England and the most famous and longest of these is the Thames River that runs through London.
England is separated from continental Europe 21 mile (34 km) English Channel but they are connected by the undersea Channel Tunnel
Scotland is the second largest of the four regions making up the UK. It is located on the northern part of Great Britain and it borders England to the south and has coastlines along the North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Its area is 30,414 square miles (78,772 sq km) and it has a population of 5,194,000 (2009 estimate). Scotland's area also includes almost 800 offshore islands. The capital of Scotland is Edinburgh but the largest city is Glasgow.
The topography of Scotland is varied and its northern portions have high mountain ranges, while the central portion consists of lowlands and the south has gently rolling hills and uplands. Despite its latitude, the climate of Scotland is temperate because of the Gulf Stream
Wales is a region of the United Kingdom that is bordered by England to the east and the Atlantic Ocean and Irish Sea to the west. It has an area of 8,022 square miles (20,779 sq km) and a population of 2,999,300 people (2009 estimate). The capital and largest city of Wales is Cardiff with a metropolitan population of 1,445,500 (2009 estimate). Wales has a coastline of 746 miles (1,200 km) which includes the coastlines of its many offshore islands. The largest of these is Anglesey in the Irish Sea.
The topography of Wales consists mainly of mountains and its highest peak is Snowdon at 3,560 feet (1,085 m). Wales has a temperate, maritime climate and it is one of the wettest regions in Europe. Winters in Wales are mild and summers are warm.
Northern Ireland is a region of the United Kingdom that is located in the northern part of the island of Ireland. It borders the Republic of Ireland to the south and west and has coastlines along the Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Northern Ireland has an area of 5,345 square miles (13,843 sq km), making it the smallest of the UK's regions. The population of Northern Ireland is 1,789,000 (2009 estimate) and the capital and largest city is Belfast.
The topography of Northern Ireland is varied and consists of both uplands and valleys. Lough Neagh is a large lake located in the center of Northern Ireland and with an area of 151 square miles (391 sq km) it is the largest lake in the British Isles
https://www.thoughtco.com/geographic-regions-of-the-united-kingdom-1435712
NOW ARGUE THAT!!!!!
Argue what ? All is see is people think so low of England that they are not proud enough to call England a country lol its rather embarrassing lol
England is a country just as Scotland is and Wales and N.Ireland
Whats with the shouting calm down man have a wee hot chocolate lol
Obviously your great Scottish education failed you .....Big Style
You calmed down ? lol get some hot chocolate in you hehe
So do you think the EU is one country ? Do you think the 27 countries in the EU are just regions ? lol "Look i provided you with the details...read it then sink it in....i didnt type in i copied it....its not me saying it....its someone brighter than me and you | |||
"i know this is going to be tough for you.... just been doing some research... it was also in the last scottish labour holyrood manifesto as well.....
so are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward????
80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owed energy company ?
Why do you think people in Scotland is telling Scottish Labour branch office no thanks and rejecting them at the ballot box?
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
see......I can show you where it was written in both sets of labour manifesto's, which is more than can be said of the SNP who made that change in policy announcement all of 10hrs ago...
so again.......
"are you going to give scottish labour credit for coming up with a policy the now SNP administration are looking at taking forward???? "
I know it must be hard for you to want to give anyone any credit than your beloved SNP administration...... but if they got the policy from somewhere else... hmmmmmm!
Again 80 years of Labour in Scotland can you show me where they set up a public owned energy company ? Labour have been in government and as usual did fuck all about it
Talk about plagiarism
Corbyn has copied SNP policies lol
The problem with that fanny he has fuck all clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and when he had a go at the SNP saying they should
mitigate Tory cuts the brass fucking neck of the guy if he had a clue about countries outside of England he will see Labour are in government in Wales where they do NOT mitigate Tory cuts double standards
I think you will find after the 2nd world war the Labour party nationalised most energy companies....ant the tories privatised then in the 80s....but what do i know
Do you remember 1997 -2010 Labour were in government at UK level
Also Scottish Labour were in government 1999- 2007
Why didnt they do it then ? They had the power to bring Energy companies , Railways etc into public hands but failed to do any
Again wonder why Scotland reject Labour
You asked a question and i answered it....The labour party HAVE set up lots of nationalised companies in the last 80 years .....and they ran on a manifesto at the last election to do the same....THE SNP didnt
Right over your heed again Labour were in government 1997 -2010 simple question why didnt Labour do it then when they had the power ?
This is the council tax crap all over again
now seen as you aint in Scotland i will remind you
2007 - SNP put scrapping the council tax in their manifesto they were elected by the people
Labour chose to join up with their pals the Tories and vote against scrapping the council tax in Scotland
Then under Kezia Dugdale pish leadership of the Scottish Labour branch they put forward the policy to scrap the council tax the very thing they voted against so excuse me if i dont believe shite coming from liars eh lol
No right over your head....read back on your own post
Again you dont seem to have an answer to this
1997 -2010 why didnt Labour bring all these things backn into public hands ? They had to power to do so yet didnt
Listen pal ...yOU said that Labour hasnt nationalised and energy in the last 80s years....i showed you were they had....IE...Telephones or the post office as it was called....regional electricity companies...im sure you also had them up in the Scottish region and yes im calling Scotland a region....the fucking tories privatised them all back in the 80s to pay for the doles queues they caused and make money for there buddies...so stop this nonsense...the only time the SNP have mentioned this was roughly 12hrs ago...and they STOLE it from the Labour party
Interesting
So do you call England a country ? Or is England a just a region ?
England is a region in the UK the same as Scotland...Wales ...Nth Ireland...they make up the UK...in the UK we vote for a government from those four regions to make up a parliament....that governs the WHOLE of the UK including SCOTLAND.....it just so happens that the UK government have devolved powers to some of these regions...IE SCOTLAND being one of then
Wow so your telling me you do not think England is a country ? Why do you think very little of your own country that your calling it a region ?
Wow just wow
So there is not 4 countries that are in the UK now ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!
You do know the UK is a union ?
So out of interest do you call the EU one country ? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Missed the point yet again...and again failed to accept you made a mistake about nationalised companies....tbh i could give a fuck what the SNP do or Jimmy Krankie if im honest....but you my friend are really a bit of a hypocrite
Come on is the UK a union ?
Do you call the EU one country ?
Your the first ever that i have seen said you think England is a region only and you dont think England is a country lol Why do you think so low of your own country to call it a region ?
Geographic Regions of the United Kingdom
Learn about the 4 Regions that Make Up the United Kingdom
The United Kingdom is an island nation in Western Europe on the island of Great Britain, part of the island of Ireland and several other small islands. The UK has a total area of 94,058 square miles (243,610 sq km) and a coastline of 7,723 miles (12,429 m). The population of the UK is 62,698,362 people (July 2011 estimate) and the capital. The UK is made up of four different regions that are not independent nations. These regions are England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
The following is a list of the UK's four regions and some information about each. All information was obtained from Wikipedia.org.
England is the largest of the four geographical regions making up the United Kingdom. It is bordered by Scotland to the north and Wales to the west and it has coastlines along Celtic, North and Irish Seas and the English Channel. Its total land area is 50,346 square miles (130,395 sq km) and a population of 51,446,000 people (2008 estimate). The capital and largest city of England (and the UK) is London. The topography of England consists mainly of gently rolling hills and lowlands. There are several large rivers in England and the most famous and longest of these is the Thames River that runs through London.
England is separated from continental Europe 21 mile (34 km) English Channel but they are connected by the undersea Channel Tunnel
Scotland is the second largest of the four regions making up the UK. It is located on the northern part of Great Britain and it borders England to the south and has coastlines along the North Sea, Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Its area is 30,414 square miles (78,772 sq km) and it has a population of 5,194,000 (2009 estimate). Scotland's area also includes almost 800 offshore islands. The capital of Scotland is Edinburgh but the largest city is Glasgow.
The topography of Scotland is varied and its northern portions have high mountain ranges, while the central portion consists of lowlands and the south has gently rolling hills and uplands. Despite its latitude, the climate of Scotland is temperate because of the Gulf Stream
Wales is a region of the United Kingdom that is bordered by England to the east and the Atlantic Ocean and Irish Sea to the west. It has an area of 8,022 square miles (20,779 sq km) and a population of 2,999,300 people (2009 estimate). The capital and largest city of Wales is Cardiff with a metropolitan population of 1,445,500 (2009 estimate). Wales has a coastline of 746 miles (1,200 km) which includes the coastlines of its many offshore islands. The largest of these is Anglesey in the Irish Sea.
The topography of Wales consists mainly of mountains and its highest peak is Snowdon at 3,560 feet (1,085 m). Wales has a temperate, maritime climate and it is one of the wettest regions in Europe. Winters in Wales are mild and summers are warm.
Northern Ireland is a region of the United Kingdom that is located in the northern part of the island of Ireland. It borders the Republic of Ireland to the south and west and has coastlines along the Atlantic Ocean, North Channel and Irish Sea. Northern Ireland has an area of 5,345 square miles (13,843 sq km), making it the smallest of the UK's regions. The population of Northern Ireland is 1,789,000 (2009 estimate) and the capital and largest city is Belfast.
The topography of Northern Ireland is varied and consists of both uplands and valleys. Lough Neagh is a large lake located in the center of Northern Ireland and with an area of 151 square miles (391 sq km) it is the largest lake in the British Isles
https://www.thoughtco.com/geographic-regions-of-the-united-kingdom-1435712
NOW ARGUE THAT!!!!!
Argue what ? All is see is people think so low of England that they are not proud enough to call England a country lol its rather embarrassing lol
England is a country just as Scotland is and Wales and N.Ireland
Whats with the shouting calm down man have a wee hot chocolate lol
Obviously your great Scottish education failed you .....Big Style
You calmed down ? lol get some hot chocolate in you hehe
So do you think the EU is one country ? Do you think the 27 countries in the EU are just regions ? lol
Look i provided you with the details...read it then sink it in....i didnt type in i copied it....its not me saying it....its someone brighter than me and you "So you copied something and its now gospel lol god you think so low of England calling it a region not proud enough to call it a country lol So do you think the EU is one country ? Do you think the countries in the EU are just regions ? | |||
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"It's a possibility fantastic move to help support the many overspending on energy to fatten the wallets of the rich energy companies. " oh i am not argueing that point at all.... there are so many different tarriffs out there, they are fleecing some people who are in effect paying for the same product without them realising it.... the issue i am raising is that it seems as if kinky is lauding and trying to give the SNP credit for coming up with the policy..... when it was actually labour who came up with the policy and proposals and have been running on it in their manifesto's for the last 2 1/2 yrs!!!! THAT is the point and principle I am trying to get kinky HnS to admit... and in their hatred of all things non SNP, they just can't do it, which is why they deflect and bait a switch every which way! so back to Kinky and the Opening post.... Before yesterday, lets say a month ago! Did you think it state owned companies were a good idea? because until yesterday there was only 1 political party that was advocating that!!!! which party was it? | |||
"It's a possibility fantastic move to help support the many overspending on energy to fatten the wallets of the rich energy companies. oh i am not argueing that point at all.... there are so many different tarriffs out there, they are fleecing some people who are in effect paying for the same product without them realising it.... the issue i am raising is that it seems as if kinky is lauding and trying to give the SNP credit for coming up with the policy..... when it was actually labour who came up with the policy and proposals and have been running on it in their manifesto's for the last 2 1/2 yrs!!!! THAT is the point and principle I am trying to get kinky HnS to admit... and in their hatred of all things non SNP, they just can't do it, which is why they deflect and bait a switch every which way! so back to Kinky and the Opening post.... Before yesterday, lets say a month ago! Did you think it state owned companies were a good idea? because until yesterday there was only 1 political party that was advocating that!!!! which party was it? "Great idea if it can help ppl with lower bills ,as for it being a labour policy its pretty easy to say things when you know you have no chance of having to implement them why didnt labour bring the policy in when they were in power for decades in scotland | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? " Do you really think they would set up a company to supply more expensive power, you are just on here for a fight and to stir shit, | |||
" Great idea if it can help ppl with lower bills ,as for it being a labour policy its pretty easy to say things when you know you have no chance of having to implement them why didnt labour bring the policy in when they were in power for decades in scotland " its been labour policy since late 14/early 15... labour haven't been in power since 2011... but they have advocated for it and putting it in their election manifesto's in both the 15 general election and the 16 scottish elections.... (probably the shift to the more left leaning policies of milliband then the people before him) do you know how people ridiculed the labour party when they proposed the energy cap, and all those tories and the right leaning press all called the idea "marxist" and all sort of different names.... but when may put the same idea in the manifesto, and people reminded them of that they said... and they didn't like it.... voila!!!!!!!! taaaa daaaaaaa!!!!!
so..... going to take you back to something in the thread....
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
kinky HnS "wee problem" is they they either didn't know or won't acknowledge where the policy came from......
so they are coming at this from a point of ignorance, (me being kind) or a point of trying to rewrite and blatantly lying (which given their history of posts on all things scottish here on the forums wouldn't be outside the rhelms of possibility)
if we are going to have a factual debate, you need to also acknowledge the fact of there the initial proposals came from...
I know kinky won't because of there "everything but the snp is bad" attitude..... and won't give any credit....
but will the sensible scotspeople's hope they do....
not saying its a bad policy, i am saying its a stolen/borrowed policy.......
if they truely believed it at the time when labour made the proposal public.... wouldn't the SNP have said something about it at the time of the 15 general election, wouldn't they have put something about it in the 16 Scottish election manifesto...
because they have had something that the scottish labour party haven't! They actually HAVE HAD the power to do it! rather than waiting till yesterday! | |||
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" Great idea if it can help ppl with lower bills ,as for it being a labour policy its pretty easy to say things when you know you have no chance of having to implement them why didnt labour bring the policy in when they were in power for decades in scotland its been labour policy since late 14/early 15... labour haven't been in power since 2011... but they have advocated for it and putting it in their election manifesto's in both the 15 general election and the 16 scottish elections.... (probably the shift to the more left leaning policies of milliband then the people before him) do you know how people ridiculed the labour party when they proposed the energy cap, and all those tories and the right leaning press all called the idea "marxist" and all sort of different names.... but when may put the same idea in the manifesto, and people reminded them of that they said... and they didn't like it.... voila!!!!!!!! taaaa daaaaaaa!!!!!
so..... going to take you back to something in the thread....
plagiarism:
noun
the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own
kinky HnS "wee problem" is they they either didn't know or won't acknowledge where the policy came from......
so they are coming at this from a point of ignorance, (me being kind) or a point of trying to rewrite and blatantly lying (which given their history of posts on all things scottish here on the forums wouldn't be outside the rhelms of possibility)
if we are going to have a factual debate, you need to also acknowledge the fact of there the initial proposals came from...
I know kinky won't because of there "everything but the snp is bad" attitude..... and won't give any credit....
but will the sensible scotspeople's hope they do....
not saying its a bad policy, i am saying its a stolen/borrowed policy.......
if they truely believed it at the time when labour made the proposal public.... wouldn't the SNP have said something about it at the time of the 15 general election, wouldn't they have put something about it in the 16 Scottish election manifesto...
because they have had something that the scottish labour party haven't! They actually HAVE HAD the power to do it! rather than waiting till yesterday!"To be honest i dont really care whos policy it was its the snp who are going to push it through ,and as i said earlier its easy to put things in manifestos when you know you have no chance of having to actually do it labour had decades of power in scotland and took their voters for granted thats why they will never be trusted or in power in scotland for a very long time if ever | |||
" labour had decades of power in scotland and took their voters for granted thats why they will never be trusted or in power in scotland for a very long time if ever "  | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? Do you really think they would set up a company to supply more expensive power, you are just on here for a fight and to stir shit, " . Yes but this isn't the main objective of this in my opinion, there's dozens of easier ways to lower energy costs than setting up your own state owned energy company, this is a long term strategy for owning your own oil something that Scotland doesn't actually do, it's owned by corporation, what the SNP have realised like most socialist politicians is that you've gotta own your resources. The long term goal is ownership! | |||
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"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? actually you'll find that is labour party paolicy which was in their 2017 general election manifesto.... but that is still not answering the simple question.... how would it be cheaper? they are well within their rights to set up a state owned energy company.... they are not in effect any different from any of the competition and they will own the infrustructure... unless they are going to operate it as a "non for profit" organisation, which is not part of their plan.... people will still have to switch to this "state owned company" what this would do at best is create a price war.... they can basically freeze or try to undercut the competition... but at the end of the day... you need to be able to cover all your costs.... also if you are saying that scotland are underspending.... are you saying they will run it as a loss making company????? What am saying is Scotland budget is under spend so there is money there to be used if need be just incase the Tories bring any other shite cuts Scotland didnt vote for there is money to protect us Scottish people since unionists do NOT want to devolve real fucking power to Scotland they only want Scotland to keep mitigating Tory cuts Dont tell me you want the Scotland government to overspend ? That would be crazy for someone to say that and admit that wanting that to happen " This budget being weighted more favourably (per head of population) than that given to other regions? | |||
" This budget being weighted more favourably (per head of population) than that given to other regions?" well since you'll never get Kinky to admit that Scotland do better per head of population using the various formula's than people in England do.... there is absolutely zero chance you will get them to admit they do better out of the formula's than little old Wales...... | |||
" This budget being weighted more favourably (per head of population) than that given to other regions? well since you'll never get Kinky to admit that Scotland do better per head of population using the various formula's than people in England do.... there is absolutely zero chance you will get them to admit they do better out of the formula's than little old Wales...... "The Scottish region does but then he doesn't think Scotland is classed as a region due to his grandeur | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? actually you'll find that is labour party paolicy which was in their 2017 general election manifesto.... but that is still not answering the simple question.... how would it be cheaper? they are well within their rights to set up a state owned energy company.... they are not in effect any different from any of the competition and they will own the infrustructure... unless they are going to operate it as a "non for profit" organisation, which is not part of their plan.... people will still have to switch to this "state owned company" what this would do at best is create a price war.... they can basically freeze or try to undercut the competition... but at the end of the day... you need to be able to cover all your costs.... also if you are saying that scotland are underspending.... are you saying they will run it as a loss making company????? What am saying is Scotland budget is under spend so there is money there to be used if need be just incase the Tories bring any other shite cuts Scotland didnt vote for there is money to protect us Scottish people since unionists do NOT want to devolve real fucking power to Scotland they only want Scotland to keep mitigating Tory cuts Dont tell me you want the Scotland government to overspend ? That would be crazy for someone to say that and admit that wanting that to happen This budget being weighted more favourably (per head of population) than that given to other regions?" Im pretty sure scotland pays more into the uk economy than wales or the north of Ireland so its only right it should be given more | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? actually you'll find that is labour party paolicy which was in their 2017 general election manifesto.... but that is still not answering the simple question.... how would it be cheaper? they are well within their rights to set up a state owned energy company.... they are not in effect any different from any of the competition and they will own the infrustructure... unless they are going to operate it as a "non for profit" organisation, which is not part of their plan.... people will still have to switch to this "state owned company" what this would do at best is create a price war.... they can basically freeze or try to undercut the competition... but at the end of the day... you need to be able to cover all your costs.... also if you are saying that scotland are underspending.... are you saying they will run it as a loss making company????? What am saying is Scotland budget is under spend so there is money there to be used if need be just incase the Tories bring any other shite cuts Scotland didnt vote for there is money to protect us Scottish people since unionists do NOT want to devolve real fucking power to Scotland they only want Scotland to keep mitigating Tory cuts Dont tell me you want the Scotland government to overspend ? That would be crazy for someone to say that and admit that wanting that to happen " So if the Scottish Executive have underspent their budget why do taxes have to go up in Scotland ?? If Scotland is suffering from Tory austerity why is there a underspend ??? As John Swinney is on record as saying they will NOT underspend but make sure the budget is spent on the country. Do they have a new policy the Scottish electorate were not informed about ?? | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? actually you'll find that is labour party paolicy which was in their 2017 general election manifesto.... but that is still not answering the simple question.... how would it be cheaper? they are well within their rights to set up a state owned energy company.... they are not in effect any different from any of the competition and they will own the infrustructure... unless they are going to operate it as a "non for profit" organisation, which is not part of their plan.... people will still have to switch to this "state owned company" what this would do at best is create a price war.... they can basically freeze or try to undercut the competition... but at the end of the day... you need to be able to cover all your costs.... also if you are saying that scotland are underspending.... are you saying they will run it as a loss making company????? What am saying is Scotland budget is under spend so there is money there to be used if need be just incase the Tories bring any other shite cuts Scotland didnt vote for there is money to protect us Scottish people since unionists do NOT want to devolve real fucking power to Scotland they only want Scotland to keep mitigating Tory cuts Dont tell me you want the Scotland government to overspend ? That would be crazy for someone to say that and admit that wanting that to happen So if the Scottish Executive have underspent their budget why do taxes have to go up in Scotland ?? If Scotland is suffering from Tory austerity why is there a underspend ??? As John Swinney is on record as saying they will NOT underspend but make sure the budget is spent on the country. Do they have a new policy the Scottish electorate were not informed about ??" There is no tax raise. See when Labour want tax to raise and the Tories want tax cuts in Scotland you know the SNP are getting it right. So are you saying you want the Scottish government to overspend on the budget? That would be mental. The underspend money is there to use if need be is it not better to have that under spend money there incase the Tories push through something else like the bedroom tax where our Scottish government can mitigate it i would prefer to see things like that devolved where as unionists would rather keep that in Tory hands fucking mental! You know there is something seriously wrong when you have unionists in Scotland saying they would rather see the Scottish government mitigate Tory cuts than actually fight to have real powers devolved to Scotland. Swap SNP with Labour and Labour would be in the same position in Scotland where they would have to mitigate Tory cuts as things like the bedroom tax is not devolved so real question is why unionists dont want those powers devolved they would rather see it come out the Scottish budget to mitigate those cuts. I can take a wild guess why unionists dont want to see things like the bedroom tax and fracking devolved to Scotland because the minute it does and the SNP are showing the UK government up and doing things better the case for independence keeps going and going that Scotland can easily be independent and there will be none of the unionist shite of being too wee , too poor and far to thick to be independent. | |||
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"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that?" Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that? Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster " but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that? Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you!" Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that? Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland " What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them | |||
"I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? " I’ve been a member of the SNP, & my other half works in Energy Supply. With that in mind OP I think this is a valid question. How DO you know that bills will be cheaper than the big six? Is this because Nicola says it will be cheaper, or do you know the complexities of Energy Supply & can speak authoritatively on the matter? If it’s because Nicola said... Well she also said Independence & oil would be Scotland’s savior & instantly world oil prices plummeted the week after the Referendum. Likewise, Tory voters do actually believe their parliamentarians tell them the truth all the time. Now I’m not knocking your post, or your belief in the SNP’s policy statement, but what does it actually mean? Will it mean cheaper bills for everyone or is someone, somewhere losing out? I’m also curious about this “underspend” you speak of. What is happening with that money? Surely, that money should be making its way into some authorities spend? | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that? Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them " Lmao yeah real threat Have you saw the two fannies that could be the Scottish Labour branch leader ? Anas Sarwar vs Richard Leonard oh yes am shaking in my boots that any of the tow of them is going to become First Minster lmao SNP flip flop on polices you say ? Can you give me an example ? Yes i do know fine well Labour were in government in 1997 to 2010 and failed to set up a state owned enegry company yet on here no one seems to care about that. What chance have you got when the so called leader of the Labour party has no clue that Scotland has its very own legal system and that the Scottish government already mitigate Tory cuts but Corbyn still attack the SNP on that but fails to see Labour in Wales wont mitigate Tory cuts so why the fuck should Scottish voters believe a word of the leader of the Labour party when he doesnt know things about Scotland lol In 2015 Corbyn said he would visit Scotland very month failed to do that! now he is at it again saying the same thing starting to get the picture yet why Labour are not to be trusted in Scotland Labour seem to think they have a god given right to get Scottish votes instead of earning them. Took the voters for gained now they are being punished in Scotland for failing to improve Scotland case and point Out of government Out of councils Well the do have some councils in Scotland where Labour joined their pals the Tories to form a coaliton in the councils to keep the SNP out Red Tories really is a good name for the Scottish Labour branch office cant tell the difference red and blue Tories | |||
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"I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? I’ve been a member of the SNP, & my other half works in Energy Supply. With that in mind OP I think this is a valid question. How DO you know that bills will be cheaper than the big six? Is this because Nicola says it will be cheaper, or do you know the complexities of Energy Supply & can speak authoritatively on the matter? If it’s because Nicola said... Well she also said Independence & oil would be Scotland’s savior & instantly world oil prices plummeted the week after the Referendum. Likewise, Tory voters do actually believe their parliamentarians tell them the truth all the time. Now I’m not knocking your post, or your belief in the SNP’s policy statement, but what does it actually mean? Will it mean cheaper bills for everyone or is someone, somewhere losing out? I’m also curious about this “underspend” you speak of. What is happening with that money? Surely, that money should be making its way into some authorities spend? " Best advice you say your a SNP member then write to Nicola and ask yourself the point is Nicola is doing whileothers piss and moan. Right the underspend is there if need be for all kinds of things surely you would agree its being to have money there in the Scottish budget that overspend and there is nothing there just think the Tories could think of a new idea to cut something else would it not be good to have there to mitigate it. Now before anyone has a go at me i would rather see full devolved powers be given to Scotland than have to mitigate Tory cuts. Now if you recall the council elections was in May 2017 before the elections the SNP made it very clear that the Scottish government would give local councils the power to decide to raise tax and many agreed to the tax freeze Also the SNP have pumped in alot of money to the councils Labour just failed to use it right claiming in shortage of teachers in Scottish schools Labour think the people are thick as mince as its councils that are incharge of hiring and firing teachers North Lanarkshire council Labour / Tory run before the election there was alot of corruption claims going on with Labour back pocketing money with fraud claims tut tut Rome wasnt build in a day and the SNP cant just fix the mess Labour have left Scotland in just like that afraid | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front "Tut tut Tell the full story now lol SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
"So have the SNP scrapped council tax? | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax? "No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out "So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments? | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments? "Ask Jimmy Krankie | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax? "No they havent scrapped it all because Labour joined their pals the Tories to stop it being scrapped Your lack of knowledge on Scottish polatics shows here. Also Scottish Labour put it in the 2016 manifesto to scrap the council tax have is that for the same branch office that voted with scum to stop it being scraped now want it scrapped you couldnt make it up lol So how is it flip flop on policy when the SNP did vote to scrap it but because of Labour joining the Tories it didnt pass ? Try again lol | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie "Your the same lack of knowledge is shocking 2011 SNP manifesto was to freeze the council tax which btw the did implement that and it stands to this very day Also again do i really need to point this shit out before the May 2017 council elections is Scotland SNP made it clear the councils will be in charge on if they wish to raise tax or freeze tax now considering Scottish Labour put it in their manifesto to raise tax you would think they would be jumping at the chance to raise the tax but no no they shat a brick and agreed with the SNP tax freeze i bet you didnt know that eh ? Time wake up and stop being ffed unionists media pish and do your homework | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they havent scrapped it all because Labour joined their pals the Tories to stop it being scrapped
Your lack of knowledge on Scottish polatics shows here.
Also Scottish Labour put it in the 2016 manifesto to scrap the council tax have is that for the same branch office that voted with scum to stop it being scraped now want it scrapped you couldnt make it up lol
So how is it flip flop on policy when the SNP did vote to scrap it but because of Labour joining the Tories it didnt pass ?
Try again lol"because they reneged on there manifesto...they have the powers...the very same powers that they scrapped tuition fee's with...they flipped they were and to a point still are the biggest party up in the Scottish region of the UK...who have been given powers by the central UK government to do these things...its called home rule | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
Your the same lack of knowledge is shocking
2011 SNP manifesto was to freeze the council tax which btw the did implement that and it stands to this very day
Also again do i really need to point this shit out before the May 2017 council elections is Scotland SNP made it clear the councils will be in charge on if they wish to raise tax or freeze tax now considering Scottish Labour put it in their manifesto to raise tax you would think they would be jumping at the chance to raise the tax but no no they shat a brick and agreed with the SNP tax freeze i bet you didnt know that eh ?
Time wake up and stop being ffed unionists media pish and do your homework"That sounds shockingly similar to the Tories. I thought you hated them?  | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they havent scrapped it all because Labour joined their pals the Tories to stop it being scrapped
Your lack of knowledge on Scottish polatics shows here.
Also Scottish Labour put it in the 2016 manifesto to scrap the council tax have is that for the same branch office that voted with scum to stop it being scraped now want it scrapped you couldnt make it up lol
So how is it flip flop on policy when the SNP did vote to scrap it but because of Labour joining the Tories it didnt pass ?
Try again lol
because they reneged on there manifesto...they have the powers...the very same powers that they scrapped tuition fee's with...they flipped they were and to a point still are the biggest party up in the Scottish region of the UK...who have been given powers by the central UK government to do these things...its called home rule "Wow just wow lol So anyone like to challenge me on the fact Labour and the Tories joined hands and voted together against scrapping the council tax ? All the SNP MSP'S voted to scrap it just like it said in their manifesto in 2007 what more did you want them to do in a minority government where they need help from others to pass to be able to scrap the council tax Stick to Westminster shit as you clear dont know what happens in Holyrood and the votes that took place lol | |||
"Best advice you say your a SNP member then write to Nicola and ask yourself the point is Nicola is doing whileothers piss and moan. Right the underspend is there if need be for all kinds of things surely you would agree its being to have money there in the Scottish budget that overspend and there is nothing there just think the Tories could think of a new idea to cut something else would it not be good to have there to mitigate it. Now before anyone has a go at me i would rather see full devolved powers be given to Scotland than have to mitigate Tory cuts. Now if you recall the council elections was in May 2017 before the elections the SNP made it very clear that the Scottish government would give local councils the power to decide to raise tax and many agreed to the tax freeze Also the SNP have pumped in alot of money to the councils Labour just failed to use it right claiming in shortage of teachers in Scottish schools Labour think the people are thick as mince as its councils that are incharge of hiring and firing teachers North Lanarkshire council Labour / Tory run before the election there was alot of corruption claims going on with Labour back pocketing money with fraud claims tut tut Rome wasnt build in a day and the SNP cant just fix the mess Labour have left Scotland in just like that afraid" Again, I’m not having a go at your political beliefs, however I will point out that I said “I’ve been” (past tense) an SNP Member, having cancelled my membership shortly after the GE2017 result & Nicola announcing her intention to table another Independence Referendum almost immediately. So, I don’t have any intention of getting the answer of “what makes you think energy will be cheaper?” from Nicola... unless she’s on Fab & reading this thread. My question was to you as the person posting the thread discussion & claiming “cheaper” energy. Unless you work in the Energy Supply Sector & can speak authoritatively on the claim of cheaper energy for Scottish energy customers it comes across as merely repeating the Mantra of the Leader & SNP/Scottish Parliament. My other concern is that if you can’t read & understand the first few words of my post then I’m probably not going to trust any reply on your political statements as authoritative fact either. Ultimately, this might undermine any persuasive argument given the fact that you’ve not answered either of my first two questions, & referred me to Nicola Sturgeon in one case. My final question was on the underspend by the current Scottish Government. Again, you’ve not sufficiently answered why it’s being sidelined or kept aside, but merely stated it’s to counter possible Tory austerity (at a time when austerity is causing the foodbanks, tough economic climate that SNP tell us we’re having, falling education levels, under financed NHS, etc etc). As this is money that the Scottish Public have paid in to the System surely you must question why my money & your money hasn’t been passed on to benefit the tax payer, the student, the elderly, Social Housing, Social Care, the NHS. This might be one I will have to write to Holyrood about - I’m genuinely curious who is sitting on the money & why it’s not been spent to tackle this austerity we’re all experiencing. As for Rome not being built in a day... the SNP have been in charge of the devolved parliament for 10 years. Thatcher (who incidentally I had an intense dislike for) was in power 11 years. Blair lasted 10 years. Both had pretty good economic records but failed in so many other areas to address other issues. Surely, it’s not unreasonable that people are asking what the SNP have achieved with their 10 year record? For the record, I think they are all self serving, have back handed deals, & couldn’t care less about the electorate (until polling time). That’s just my take on our current bunch of politicians. However, I return to the original quotation... “why will (energy bills) be cheaper? In closing, I wish you luck with your political beliefs & sincerely hope the SNP can provide cheaper energy bills for Scotland, but I don’t think it’s going to be as easy as Nicola thinks, especially as “Our Power” are receiving a publicly funded subsidy. | |||
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"Best advice you say your a SNP member then write to Nicola and ask yourself the point is Nicola is doing whileothers piss and moan. Right the underspend is there if need be for all kinds of things surely you would agree its being to have money there in the Scottish budget that overspend and there is nothing there just think the Tories could think of a new idea to cut something else would it not be good to have there to mitigate it. Now before anyone has a go at me i would rather see full devolved powers be given to Scotland than have to mitigate Tory cuts. Now if you recall the council elections was in May 2017 before the elections the SNP made it very clear that the Scottish government would give local councils the power to decide to raise tax and many agreed to the tax freeze Also the SNP have pumped in alot of money to the councils Labour just failed to use it right claiming in shortage of teachers in Scottish schools Labour think the people are thick as mince as its councils that are incharge of hiring and firing teachers North Lanarkshire council Labour / Tory run before the election there was alot of corruption claims going on with Labour back pocketing money with fraud claims tut tut Rome wasnt build in a day and the SNP cant just fix the mess Labour have left Scotland in just like that afraid Again, I’m not having a go at your political beliefs, however I will point out that I said “I’ve been” (past tense) an SNP Member, having cancelled my membership shortly after the GE2017 result & Nicola announcing her intention to table another Independence Referendum almost immediately. So, I don’t have any intention of getting the answer of “what makes you think energy will be cheaper?” from Nicola... unless she’s on Fab & reading this thread. My question was to you as the person posting the thread discussion & claiming “cheaper” energy. Unless you work in the Energy Supply Sector & can speak authoritatively on the claim of cheaper energy for Scottish energy customers it comes across as merely repeating the Mantra of the Leader & SNP/Scottish Parliament. My other concern is that if you can’t read & understand the first few words of my post then I’m probably not going to trust any reply on your political statements as authoritative fact either. Ultimately, this might undermine any persuasive argument given the fact that you’ve not answered either of my first two questions, & referred me to Nicola Sturgeon in one case. My final question was on the underspend by the current Scottish Government. Again, you’ve not sufficiently answered why it’s being sidelined or kept aside, but merely stated it’s to counter possible Tory austerity (at a time when austerity is causing the foodbanks, tough economic climate that SNP tell us we’re having, falling education levels, under financed NHS, etc etc). As this is money that the Scottish Public have paid in to the System surely you must question why my money & your money hasn’t been passed on to benefit the tax payer, the student, the elderly, Social Housing, Social Care, the NHS. This might be one I will have to write to Holyrood about - I’m genuinely curious who is sitting on the money & why it’s not been spent to tackle this austerity we’re all experiencing. As for Rome not being built in a day... the SNP have been in charge of the devolved parliament for 10 years. Thatcher (who incidentally I had an intense dislike for) was in power 11 years. Blair lasted 10 years. Both had pretty good economic records but failed in so many other areas to address other issues. Surely, it’s not unreasonable that people are asking what the SNP have achieved with their 10 year record? For the record, I think they are all self serving, have back handed deals, & couldn’t care less about the electorate (until polling time). That’s just my take on our current bunch of politicians. However, I return to the original quotation... “why will (energy bills) be cheaper? In closing, I wish you luck with your political beliefs & sincerely hope the SNP can provide cheaper energy bills for Scotland, but I don’t think it’s going to be as easy as Nicola thinks, especially as “Our Power” are receiving a publicly funded subsidy. " Sorry you feel that way but the SNP never said that an independence was almost immediately the SNP made it clear the have a triple lock mandate and that a referendum could very well take place when the full brexit deal is known giving Scotland's majority vote to remain in the EU a decision on to agree with brexit or choose another path ie independence Just because you are not a member of the SNP there is nothing stopping you from writing to her to get your answer you want. Can i ask you something why do you want the Scottish government to keep mitigating Tory austerity ? Would you not rather fight to have those powers devolved to Scotland ? Surely thats better than having to waste money fighting Tory cuts we never voted for Now i know people are foaming at the mouth ready to jump and attack on me saying its wasting money it kinda is wasting our money as in the Scottish budget when that money could go on all kinds of things rather than trying to simply mitigate Tory austerity when all the Tories have to do is devolve those powers to Scotland so we have power to scrap it altogether and not waste a single penny. That money can go into local areas. I keep seeing these but see when i ask which country in the UK has the best record on the NHS and education everyone goes quiet. Stop putting our NHS down those nurses and doctors work damn well hard and with a 95% record on meeting target i say thats fucking amazing Where down in England sadly the Red Cross called the NHS a crisis and its not getting any better under the Tories did you not hear them admit if no deal happens there will be lack of money in the NHS Lol ask yourself a question if the SNP are as bad as you think then why do they keep winning elections in Scotland ? First quarter of the year the Scottish economy is outpeforming the rest of the UK by fucking miles not bad eh | |||
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"Isn't there a Scotland forum for this nonsense?. Wait no.... It's just a UK forum... Bunch of splitters "This is the Political Forum. It was created because of the amount of threads regarding the Referendum. Not the Scottish Independence Referendum but the Brexit Referendum. You would need to ask Fab why they decided they needed to create a Politcal Forum, but this is where all political discussion threads are posted now. So, no... the Scotland Forum is for everything EXCEPT Political Discussions. The Scotland Forum does accept visitors however, so you can visit it. Please note however, we speak a different way & we print our own money. Lol | |||
"Sorry you feel that way but the SNP never said that an independence was almost immediately the SNP made it clear the have a triple lock mandate and that a referendum could very well take place when the full brexit deal is known giving Scotland's majority vote to remain in the EU a decision on to agree with brexit or choose another path ie independence Just because you are not a member of the SNP there is nothing stopping you from writing to her to get your answer you want. Can i ask you something why do you want the Scottish government to keep mitigating Tory austerity ? Would you not rather fight to have those powers devolved to Scotland ? Surely thats better than having to waste money fighting Tory cuts we never voted for Now i know people are foaming at the mouth ready to jump and attack on me saying its wasting money it kinda is wasting our money as in the Scottish budget when that money could go on all kinds of things rather than trying to simply mitigate Tory austerity when all the Tories have to do is devolve those powers to Scotland so we have power to scrap it altogether and not waste a single penny. That money can go into local areas. I keep seeing these but see when i ask which country in the UK has the best record on the NHS and education everyone goes quiet. Stop putting our NHS down those nurses and doctors work damn well hard and with a 95% record on meeting target i say thats fucking amazing Where down in England sadly the Red Cross called the NHS a crisis and its not getting any better under the Tories did you not hear them admit if no deal happens there will be lack of money in the NHS Lol ask yourself a question if the SNP are as bad as you think then why do they keep winning elections in Scotland ? First quarter of the year the Scottish economy is outpeforming the rest of the UK by fucking miles not bad eh " Please don’t misunderstand me, but I’ve read your reply a few times now & perhaps you’re typing too fast, but your sentences aren’t clear to me. It’s causing a lack of clarity in your political responses & their persuasive argument. This makes it difficult to discuss the matter of cheaper energy & what started off as a potentially good thread on “state owned” vs “privatisation”. It is particularly evident in your habit of wandering into other areas when faced with direct questioning, or matters in which you don’t have the answers to, or have difficulties addressing succinctly. In conclusion I’ve tried reading (not only) your responses to my questioning, but your other responses to questions. However the scatter shot style makes your posts almost impossible to get to the nub of your discussions. That said, I acknowledge your passion for the SNP even though I suspect when we sit down to review their legacy, in say another 10 years, their real achievements might be as limited as that of any other Government. Anyway, I hope your political ambitions for your party work out for you. I have my own personal doubts that they have failed to grasp the complexities of Energy Supply, the winners losers, & of the implications to the general electorate. If nothing else, it’s reminded me not to wander into the Politics Threads. | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that?" Totally agree with this its the snp who are going to do this and ppl in scotland should be welcoming it no matter whos policies if was i say well done snp | |||
"Isn't there a Scotland forum for this nonsense?. Wait no.... It's just a UK forum... Bunch of splitters
This is the Political Forum. It was created because of the amount of threads regarding the Referendum. Not the Scottish Independence Referendum but the Brexit Referendum.
You would need to ask Fab why they decided they needed to create a Politcal Forum, but this is where all political discussion threads are posted now. So, no... the Scotland Forum is for everything EXCEPT Political Discussions. The Scotland Forum does accept visitors however, so you can visit it. Please note however, we speak a different way & we print our own money. Lol " | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie "That comment just makes you sound like a twat | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat " | |||
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"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
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"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that? Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them " That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them | |||
"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? Do you see Your UK government doing that? You might not know this but see the Scottish government is underspend right now Whereas your UK government are borrowing more and adding to the UK debt is that now acceptable? I said, how do you know it will be cheaper? Here's an idea see if you email the SNP and find out. So you are moaning about an SNP to set up a public owned energy company? At least the SNP are doing something to improve energy What is the UK government doing to make Energy more affordable for people ? No, Im asking how do you know it will be cheaper? " For one thing, there will be no overpaid corporate fatcats claiming bonuses for sitting on their arses, while Joe & Josephine Bloggs do all the work. It will be a not for profit organisation, with no shareholders greedy for ever bigger dividends, and unlike England, it won't be in hock to China and France. | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that? Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them " We will see | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that?its Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them We will see " No you will never see it in your lifetime they are a irrelevance in scottish politics | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that?its Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them We will see No you will never see it in your lifetime they are a irrelevance in scottish politics " A bit like the SNP are now...there a one trick pony | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front "Since your always happy to help pls let us all know the labour manifesto pledges that were not impemented when they were in power in scotland or does that not count now ? | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that?its Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them We will see No you will never see it in your lifetime they are a irrelevance in scottish politics A bit like the SNP are now...there a one trick pony " Oh it must really hurt that Scotland has seen sense and booted out the unionist branch offices and trust the SNP lol So you think the Scottish Labour branch office is a threat to the SNP ? In your view which one do you think is going to cause this threat is it Anas Sarwar ? Or Richard Leonard ? Me personally i cant wait to see the next leader of the branch office of the Labour party is Scotland is to rip the pish out of them as both are fucking mince You should watch them both right now on putting their reason to be branch leader is fucking laughable get your popcorn out and enjoy the show of the Scottish Labour branch comedy club Does it not say something that Kezia left the branch office leadership and then said she wasnt allowed to speak her mind and their is alot of infighting in Labour lol Am rather enjoying the ungagged Kezia that speaks her mind instead of being gagged by the Labour party | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that?its Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them We will see No you will never see it in your lifetime they are a irrelevance in scottish politics A bit like the SNP are now...there a one trick pony " Really so whats the trick ? As they seem to be doing pretty well up here getting more mps than the other 3 unionist parties combined | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that?its Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them We will see No you will never see it in your lifetime they are a irrelevance in scottish politics A bit like the SNP are now...there a one trick pony Really so whats the trick ? As they seem to be doing pretty well up here getting more mps than the other 3 unionist parties combined " there on the wane...there share of the vote dropped tremendously at the last election...indigence is dead...a bit like UKIP in the rest of the UK | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that?its Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them We will see No you will never see it in your lifetime they are a irrelevance in scottish politics A bit like the SNP are now...there a one trick pony Really so whats the trick ? As they seem to be doing pretty well up here getting more mps than the other 3 unionist parties combined there on the wane...there share of the vote dropped tremendously at the last election...indigence is dead...a bit like UKIP in the rest of the UK "Really ?check the polls pretty sure you will see snp well ahead of any other party ,you really should stop reading tory media papers lol | |||
"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that?its Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland What the hell are you on about...you know well Labour never did....and yesterday you were saying they hadn't done it for 80 years....you flip flop about more than the SNP do with there policies....they stole this policy from the last Labour manifesto. Labour are a huge threat to the SNP up in Scotland and the SNP are running scared of them That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them We will see No you will never see it in your lifetime they are a irrelevance in scottish politics A bit like the SNP are now...there a one trick pony Really so whats the trick ? As they seem to be doing pretty well up here getting more mps than the other 3 unionist parties combined there on the wane...there share of the vote dropped tremendously at the last election...indigence is dead...a bit like UKIP in the rest of the UK "So who is the biggest threat to the SNP Anas Sawar or Richard Leonard ? Curious to know since you seem to think Labour are a threat lol | |||
"Isn't there a Scotland forum for this nonsense?. Wait no.... It's just a UK forum... Bunch of splitters
This is the Political Forum. It was created because of the amount of threads regarding the Referendum. Not the Scottish Independence Referendum but the Brexit Referendum.
You would need to ask Fab why they decided they needed to create a Politcal Forum, but this is where all political discussion threads are posted now. So, no... the Scotland Forum is for everything EXCEPT Political Discussions. The Scotland Forum does accept visitors however, so you can visit it. Please note however, we speak a different way & we print our own money. Lol ". The one thing I've always loved about the UK is you only have to go 50 miles down the road for anybody to speak "funny" | |||
"Our Scottish government saying they will set up a state-owned energy company in Scotland to offer cheaper power to homeowners Remember back in 2014 Scotland was told by David Cameron dont leave the UK lead the UK So our Scottish government looking after the Scottish people while the UK government keep on adding to the UK debt and clearly dont care they are more worried about their gravy train. " Getting back to the original topic... I think this is a sensible idea. It may turn out badly (or well) but at least the Scottish Government is trying to do its best for the Scots. I am an Englishman who would be sorry to see Scotland leave the UK, but I would not blame them if they chose to do so. British Governments have neglected the Celtic and Noth English regions for half a century. And I live in Gloucestershire. | |||
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"Our Scottish government saying they will set up a state-owned energy company in Scotland to offer cheaper power to homeowners Remember back in 2014 Scotland was told by David Cameron dont leave the UK lead the UK So our Scottish government looking after the Scottish people while the UK government keep on adding to the UK debt and clearly dont care they are more worried about their gravy train. Getting back to the original topic... I think this is a sensible idea. It may turn out badly (or well) but at least the Scottish Government is trying to do its best for the Scots. I am an Englishman who would be sorry to see Scotland leave the UK, but I would not blame them if they chose to do so. British Governments have neglected the Celtic and Noth English regions for half a century. And I live in Gloucestershire." 100% Agree
The problem is alot of people on here hate the SNP with a passion they wont admit the SNP have done something good.
The people that are on here living in England instead of hating on the SNP for actually putting into action a public owed energy company why not challenge the UK government into doing the same for England oh wait the Tories are incharge and like to keep private companies making money off the public
Yeah i remember the North of England wanted to join Scotland and get the hell away from London rule.
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"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
Out of interest do you class East Midlands a region of England ?"How about actually answering the question? Why haven't the SNP implemented their manifesto pledge? | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
Out of interest do you class East Midlands a region of England ?
How about actually answering the question? Why haven't the SNP implemented their manifesto pledge? "Oh many more times the reason the SNP didnt scrap the council tax in 2007 was because Labour and the Tories voted against it. This shows me you know fuck all about Scotland's votes in Holyrood its on public record when the vote took place on scrapping the council tax i aint lying about it look it up | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
Out of interest do you class East Midlands a region of England ?
How about actually answering the question? Why haven't the SNP implemented their manifesto pledge?
Oh many more times the reason the SNP didnt scrap the council tax in 2007 was because Labour and the Tories voted against it.
This shows me you know fuck all about Scotland's votes in Holyrood its on public record when the vote took place on scrapping the council tax i aint lying about it look it up
"Has there been an election since 2007? It tells you about my knowledge of Scotland's votes in Holyrood does it? What does it tell you about my knowledge of Wales' votes in Holyrood? Or England's votes in Holyrood? | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
Out of interest do you class East Midlands a region of England ?
How about actually answering the question? Why haven't the SNP implemented their manifesto pledge?
Oh many more times the reason the SNP didnt scrap the council tax in 2007 was because Labour and the Tories voted against it.
This shows me you know fuck all about Scotland's votes in Holyrood its on public record when the vote took place on scrapping the council tax i aint lying about it look it up
Has there been an election since 2007?
It tells you about my knowledge of Scotland's votes in Holyrood does it? What does it tell you about my knowledge of Wales' votes in Holyrood? Or England's votes in Holyrood? "So you agree me Labour and Tories voted against scrapping the council tax and thats why the SNP who were a minority government in 2007 couldnt pass it? Right now you moving on to 2011 and 2016 Scottish elections ok can you tell me did the SNP have scrapping the council tax in the 2011 or 2016 manifestos? Or did the SNP have freezing the council tax in the 2011 and 2016 manifesto's where they did infact implemented freezing the council tax ? This shows me how piss poor you really are and knowing about the votes in Holyrood. lol So can you tell me what you think am lying about what i said above eh ? | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
Out of interest do you class East Midlands a region of England ?
How about actually answering the question? Why haven't the SNP implemented their manifesto pledge?
Oh many more times the reason the SNP didnt scrap the council tax in 2007 was because Labour and the Tories voted against it.
This shows me you know fuck all about Scotland's votes in Holyrood its on public record when the vote took place on scrapping the council tax i aint lying about it look it up
Has there been an election since 2007?
It tells you about my knowledge of Scotland's votes in Holyrood does it? What does it tell you about my knowledge of Wales' votes in Holyrood? Or England's votes in Holyrood?
So you agree me Labour and Tories voted against scrapping the council tax and thats why the SNP who were a minority government in 2007 couldnt pass it?
Right now you moving on to 2011 and 2016 Scottish elections ok can you tell me did the SNP have scrapping the council tax in the 2011 or 2016 manifestos?
Or did the SNP have freezing the council tax in the 2011 and 2016 manifesto's where they did infact implemented freezing the council tax ?
This shows me how piss poor you really are and knowing about the votes in Holyrood. lol
So can you tell me what you think am lying about what i said above eh ? "Why did they drop it from their manifesto? Didn't they believe in it anymore? You think I don't understand about votes in Holyrood? You don't even know who votes there! | |||
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"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
"What you've typed here is (another) blatant lie. SNP have had a majority govt for periods since 2007 and haven't scrapped it. They currently have a majority if you include the Green party and they also want council tax scrapped. | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them " SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
Out of interest do you class East Midlands a region of England ?
How about actually answering the question? Why haven't the SNP implemented their manifesto pledge?
Oh many more times the reason the SNP didnt scrap the council tax in 2007 was because Labour and the Tories voted against it.
This shows me you know fuck all about Scotland's votes in Holyrood its on public record when the vote took place on scrapping the council tax i aint lying about it look it up
Has there been an election since 2007?
It tells you about my knowledge of Scotland's votes in Holyrood does it? What does it tell you about my knowledge of Wales' votes in Holyrood? Or England's votes in Holyrood?
So you agree me Labour and Tories voted against scrapping the council tax and thats why the SNP who were a minority government in 2007 couldnt pass it?
Right now you moving on to 2011 and 2016 Scottish elections ok can you tell me did the SNP have scrapping the council tax in the 2011 or 2016 manifestos?
Or did the SNP have freezing the council tax in the 2011 and 2016 manifesto's where they did infact implemented freezing the council tax ?
This shows me how piss poor you really are and knowing about the votes in Holyrood. lol
So can you tell me what you think am lying about what i said above eh ?
Why did they drop it from their manifesto? Didn't they believe in it anymore?
You think I don't understand about votes in Holyrood? You don't even know who votes there! "Yup am calling it out i dont think you do understand the votes that have took place in Holyrood lol The fact you are not trying to correct me speaks volumes. So do you agree with me then that because of Labour and the Tories the SNP couldnt scrap the council tax back in 2007 ? So you also agree the SNP didnt put scrapping the council tax in their 2011 and 2016 manifesto's ? They did put freezing the council tax and won those elections and did just as they said and froze the council tax. Really i dont understand lol So the debate and vote on the section 30 order in Holyrood it passed 69-59 votes in favour to have a 2nd independence referendum is that democracy speaking in the Scottish parliament ? Oh wait a minute you dont respect our parliament in Holyrood and the votes in Holyrood you think its whatever Westminster say goes and to hell with Scotland's democracy | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case." Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol | |||
" First quarter of the year the Scottish economy is outpeforming the rest of the UK by fucking miles not bad eh " Second quarter the UK had 3 times as much growth as Scotland. Funny that you forgot to mention that. And if we want to take the trend the UK economy outgrew the Scottish one by 3 times last year (1.5% compared to 0.5%) | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
What you've typed here is (another) blatant lie. SNP have had a majority govt for periods since 2007 and haven't scrapped it. They currently have a majority if you include the Green party and they also want council tax scrapped.
"Lie eh ? No no try fact i said in 2007 the SNP had a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax and thats the reason the SNP didnt do it Yes the SNP had a majority government in 2011 and they put in their manifesto to freeze the council tax and they did just that In 2016 the SNP manifesto said to keep the freeze on the council tax and they kept to the manifesto So what am i lying about eh ? Its all on public record | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol " "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
Out of interest do you class East Midlands a region of England ?
How about actually answering the question? Why haven't the SNP implemented their manifesto pledge?
Oh many more times the reason the SNP didnt scrap the council tax in 2007 was because Labour and the Tories voted against it.
This shows me you know fuck all about Scotland's votes in Holyrood its on public record when the vote took place on scrapping the council tax i aint lying about it look it up
Has there been an election since 2007?
It tells you about my knowledge of Scotland's votes in Holyrood does it? What does it tell you about my knowledge of Wales' votes in Holyrood? Or England's votes in Holyrood?
So you agree me Labour and Tories voted against scrapping the council tax and thats why the SNP who were a minority government in 2007 couldnt pass it?
Right now you moving on to 2011 and 2016 Scottish elections ok can you tell me did the SNP have scrapping the council tax in the 2011 or 2016 manifestos?
Or did the SNP have freezing the council tax in the 2011 and 2016 manifesto's where they did infact implemented freezing the council tax ?
This shows me how piss poor you really are and knowing about the votes in Holyrood. lol
So can you tell me what you think am lying about what i said above eh ?
Why did they drop it from their manifesto? Didn't they believe in it anymore?
You think I don't understand about votes in Holyrood? You don't even know who votes there!
Yup am calling it out i dont think you do understand the votes that have took place in Holyrood lol
The fact you are not trying to correct me speaks volumes.
So do you agree with me then that because of Labour and the Tories the SNP couldnt scrap the council tax back in 2007 ?
So you also agree the SNP didnt put scrapping the council tax in their 2011 and 2016 manifesto's ? They did put freezing the council tax and won those elections and did just as they said and froze the council tax.
Really i dont understand lol
So the debate and vote on the section 30 order in Holyrood it passed 69-59 votes in favour to have a 2nd independence referendum is that democracy speaking in the Scottish parliament ? Oh wait a minute you dont respect our parliament in Holyrood and the votes in Holyrood you think its whatever Westminster say goes and to hell with Scotland's democracy
"So why did they drop it from their manifesto? I don't know where you get the idea that I don't respect the Scottish Parliament from. They can vote on any devolved issue that they want, implement any devolved policy they want. | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) " So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
Out of interest do you class East Midlands a region of England ?
How about actually answering the question? Why haven't the SNP implemented their manifesto pledge?
Oh many more times the reason the SNP didnt scrap the council tax in 2007 was because Labour and the Tories voted against it.
This shows me you know fuck all about Scotland's votes in Holyrood its on public record when the vote took place on scrapping the council tax i aint lying about it look it up
Has there been an election since 2007?
It tells you about my knowledge of Scotland's votes in Holyrood does it? What does it tell you about my knowledge of Wales' votes in Holyrood? Or England's votes in Holyrood?
So you agree me Labour and Tories voted against scrapping the council tax and thats why the SNP who were a minority government in 2007 couldnt pass it?
Right now you moving on to 2011 and 2016 Scottish elections ok can you tell me did the SNP have scrapping the council tax in the 2011 or 2016 manifestos?
Or did the SNP have freezing the council tax in the 2011 and 2016 manifesto's where they did infact implemented freezing the council tax ?
This shows me how piss poor you really are and knowing about the votes in Holyrood. lol
So can you tell me what you think am lying about what i said above eh ?
Why did they drop it from their manifesto? Didn't they believe in it anymore?
You think I don't understand about votes in Holyrood? You don't even know who votes there!
Yup am calling it out i dont think you do understand the votes that have took place in Holyrood lol
The fact you are not trying to correct me speaks volumes.
So do you agree with me then that because of Labour and the Tories the SNP couldnt scrap the council tax back in 2007 ?
So you also agree the SNP didnt put scrapping the council tax in their 2011 and 2016 manifesto's ? They did put freezing the council tax and won those elections and did just as they said and froze the council tax.
Really i dont understand lol
So the debate and vote on the section 30 order in Holyrood it passed 69-59 votes in favour to have a 2nd independence referendum is that democracy speaking in the Scottish parliament ? Oh wait a minute you dont respect our parliament in Holyrood and the votes in Holyrood you think its whatever Westminster say goes and to hell with Scotland's democracy
So why did they drop it from their manifesto? I don't know where you get the idea that I don't respect the Scottish Parliament from. They can vote on any devolved issue that they want, implement any devolved policy they want. "Go ask them fuck sake lol All am saying is that SNP couldnt pass scrapping the council tax in 2007 because of Labour and Tory voting against it which people seem to either be wanting to lie about or have no bloody clue Then in 2011 the SNP put in their manifesto to freeze the council tax and they did just that. So what you pissing and moaning for they kept to what they said they would do in their 2011 manifesto is that not what they are suppose to do ? | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol " The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
So have the SNP scrapped council tax?
No they haven't...it was just another flip flop on the SNP's behalf...same as lowering taxes etc etc...they have all these powers yet refuse to use them...and they have had a majority in there regional parliament for years...as the OP is at pain to point out
So why wouldn't they implement their own manifesto commitments?
Ask Jimmy Krankie
That comment just makes you sound like a twat
Out of interest do you class East Midlands a region of England ?
How about actually answering the question? Why haven't the SNP implemented their manifesto pledge?
Oh many more times the reason the SNP didnt scrap the council tax in 2007 was because Labour and the Tories voted against it.
This shows me you know fuck all about Scotland's votes in Holyrood its on public record when the vote took place on scrapping the council tax i aint lying about it look it up
Has there been an election since 2007?
It tells you about my knowledge of Scotland's votes in Holyrood does it? What does it tell you about my knowledge of Wales' votes in Holyrood? Or England's votes in Holyrood?
So you agree me Labour and Tories voted against scrapping the council tax and thats why the SNP who were a minority government in 2007 couldnt pass it?
Right now you moving on to 2011 and 2016 Scottish elections ok can you tell me did the SNP have scrapping the council tax in the 2011 or 2016 manifestos?
Or did the SNP have freezing the council tax in the 2011 and 2016 manifesto's where they did infact implemented freezing the council tax ?
This shows me how piss poor you really are and knowing about the votes in Holyrood. lol
So can you tell me what you think am lying about what i said above eh ?
Why did they drop it from their manifesto? Didn't they believe in it anymore?
You think I don't understand about votes in Holyrood? You don't even know who votes there!
Yup am calling it out i dont think you do understand the votes that have took place in Holyrood lol
The fact you are not trying to correct me speaks volumes.
So do you agree with me then that because of Labour and the Tories the SNP couldnt scrap the council tax back in 2007 ?
So you also agree the SNP didnt put scrapping the council tax in their 2011 and 2016 manifesto's ? They did put freezing the council tax and won those elections and did just as they said and froze the council tax.
Really i dont understand lol
So the debate and vote on the section 30 order in Holyrood it passed 69-59 votes in favour to have a 2nd independence referendum is that democracy speaking in the Scottish parliament ? Oh wait a minute you dont respect our parliament in Holyrood and the votes in Holyrood you think its whatever Westminster say goes and to hell with Scotland's democracy
So why did they drop it from their manifesto? I don't know where you get the idea that I don't respect the Scottish Parliament from. They can vote on any devolved issue that they want, implement any devolved policy they want.
Go ask them fuck sake lol
All am saying is that SNP couldnt pass scrapping the council tax in 2007 because of Labour and Tory voting against it which people seem to either be wanting to lie about or have no bloody clue
Then in 2011 the SNP put in their manifesto to freeze the council tax and they did just that. So what you pissing and moaning for they kept to what they said they would do in their 2011 manifesto is that not what they are suppose to do ? "You raise an issue, then when I ask you about it, you tell me to go and ask them? 
It's interesting that both the SNP and the Tories have the same policy on freezing council tax, don't you think? Are you going to praise the Tories for their implementation of a council tax freeze? | |||
"An example of an SNP flip flop on policies? We could start with the fact they used to campaign to 'Scrap the Unfair Council Tax' Then when they got the powers to do it....they didn't. According to their slogan it 'was time' and yet here we are years later with no change. If you want a list of some of the manifesto pledges the SNP have made over their term in power that they haven't even attempted to implement I can come up with a decent list for the folks on here. Always happy to help on that front
Tut tut
Tell the full story now lol
SNP manifesto 2007 they said they would scrap the council tax
Now seen as back then the SNP were a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax took place and guess what Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax therefore SNP couldnt scrap it as they didnt have enough for it to pass in Holyrood please tell the whole truth and not unionist pish
What you've typed here is (another) blatant lie. SNP have had a majority govt for periods since 2007 and haven't scrapped it. They currently have a majority if you include the Green party and they also want council tax scrapped.
Lie eh ? No no try fact i said in 2007 the SNP had a minority government and the vote on scrapping the council tax Labour and the Tories voted against scrapping the council tax and thats the reason the SNP didnt do it
Yes the SNP had a majority government in 2011 and they put in their manifesto to freeze the council tax and they did just that
In 2016 the SNP manifesto said to keep the freeze on the council tax and they kept to the manifesto
So what am i lying about eh ? Its all on public record
"So in 2007 the council tax is 'unfair' and should be scrapped. A whole campaign was based around this. Then a couple of years later the idea of scrapping it has gone. So was it no longer 'unfair' or is it the case that government with a clear manjority were happy to go on administering an 'unfair' tax? Let's see just how unfair it was, we'll take the Nicola's own words on it: "Labour's hated Council Tax is totally unfair, and any tinkering with bands would not make the system any fairer... ” Nicola Sturgeon 10th April 2007 “ It's time to scrap the Council Tax." Nicola Sturgeon, 11th April 2007 "The fact of the matter is that Council Tax is unfair and cannot be improved by tinkering around the edges.” Nicola Sturgeon, 2nd October, 2010 "Compared to what the SNP are pledging, Labour's tinkering is not good enough. It is too little and too late and will not make the unfair Council Tax any fairer for hard-working families.” Nicola Sturgeon, 8th April, 2007." "We'll get rid, once and for all, of the unfair council tax.” Nicola Sturgeon, 24th August, 2009." "Labour and the Tories are stuck in the past. They cling to the discredited Council Tax.” Nicola Sturgeon, 14th October, 2006." So according to Nicola it's "unfair", "hated", "discredited". And yet despite all that they done nothing about it. Shocking. | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! " What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them " Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. | |||
" First quarter of the year the Scottish economy is outpeforming the rest of the UK by fucking miles not bad eh ----------------------------------- Second quarter the UK had 3 times as much growth as Scotland. Funny that you forgot to mention that. And if we want to take the trend the UK economy outgrew the Scottish one by 3 times last year (1.5% compared to 0.5%)" This post seems to have been missed  | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. " Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard " Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious! | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious! "Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol "You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths "Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ? | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ? "I know this question is directed at someone else but my view is that snp may have won 35 seats but that only equated to 37% of the vote so 67% of people voted for unionist parties so actually a huge majority are against another referendum | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
I know this question is directed at someone else but my view is that snp may have won 35 seats but that only equated to 37% of the vote so 67% of people voted for unionist parties so actually a huge majority are against another referendum"Thats sad that that your now trying to lump together the unionist branch offices votes to claim victory lol Thats not how it works its a first past the post system and 35 Scottish elections out of 59 means the SNP won the election in Scotland and have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto Unless people seem to think 13 Scottish Tory branch office seats out of 59 is somehow winning? Dont try and claim victory trying to lump them altogether thats just sad | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ? "You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government. | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government. "Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
"Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister? | |||
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" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister? "Ah have you now caught on to your mistake ? So who has a mandate in Scotland the Tories or SNP ? So why doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster? Not willing to respect the way Scotland voted and elected the SNP ? Fuck sake the clue is in the name Scottish National Party lol | |||
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" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister?
Ah have you now caught on to your mistake ? So who has a mandate in Scotland the Tories or SNP ?
So why doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster? Not willing to respect the way Scotland voted and elected the SNP ?
Fuck sake the clue is in the name Scottish National Party lol"The biggest party has the mandate for the whole of the UK. So you've never seen an SNP Prime Minister? Even though you think they have the mandate? | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister?
Ah have you now caught on to your mistake ? So who has a mandate in Scotland the Tories or SNP ?
So why doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster? Not willing to respect the way Scotland voted and elected the SNP ?
Fuck sake the clue is in the name Scottish National Party lol
The biggest party has the mandate for the whole of the UK. So you've never seen an SNP Prime Minister? Even though you think they have the mandate? "Your digging deeper and deeper lol So you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with 13 Scottish Tory MP's ? You seem to be ignoring the fact the SNP have 35 Scottish seats out of 59 So the SNP have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto No unionist branch office in Scotland have a mandate to deliver on their manifesto's they were rejected by the Scottish voters. But hey keep digging the hole its shows your lack of knowledge I remember last night someone saying that no pro indy supporter was backing me up Can you notice that no one is willing to back you up when you claim the Tories have a mandate in Scotland lol Out of interest what policies do you think the Scottish Tories should deliver in Scotland since you are saying they have a mandate ? | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister?
Ah have you now caught on to your mistake ? So who has a mandate in Scotland the Tories or SNP ?
So why doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster? Not willing to respect the way Scotland voted and elected the SNP ?
Fuck sake the clue is in the name Scottish National Party lol
The biggest party has the mandate for the whole of the UK. So you've never seen an SNP Prime Minister? Even though you think they have the mandate?
Your digging deeper and deeper lol
So you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with 13 Scottish Tory MP's ? You seem to be ignoring the fact the SNP have 35 Scottish seats out of 59
So the SNP have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto
No unionist branch office in Scotland have a mandate to deliver on their manifesto's they were rejected by the Scottish voters.
But hey keep digging the hole its shows your lack of knowledge
I remember last night someone saying that no pro indy supporter was backing me up
Can you notice that no one is willing to back you up when you claim the Tories have a mandate in Scotland lol
Out of interest what policies do you think the Scottish Tories should deliver in Scotland since you are saying they have a mandate ? "No, you're quite right. The SNP with 35 seats have the biggest mandate in Westminster with its 650 MPs. A couple of hundred years of political history has got it all wrong
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"Can we start playing nice, guys. This is a politics thread, not a personal argument. The SNP haven't claimed to be inventing the wheel with this idea. They supported a similar plan for tenants before so they're not saying it's a new idea. Surely we can say it's a good idea and leave it at that? Thank you a voice of reason Same thing about the baby boxes They were introducted in Finland and having great success over in Finland. The SNP never said the babybox is their own idea but see the success its having in another country and the benefits of it So its the very same thing about a state owned energy company in Scotland Instead of people having a go at the SNP why not challenge the Tories to do it down in Westminster but you just undermined your own arguement... you are prepared to go into background re the baby boxes and are prepared to credit another country for giving then SNP the idea to follow... but you REFUSE to do exactly the same thing for this position and policy change...... and it always makes me laugh where if you get bamboozled with "fact" that you can't argue in a thread you ALWAYS go back to your default which is talking about the bedroom tax out of nowhere.... its not even "one trick pony" ish anymore.... we know you! Do my favour and answer this in the time Labour were in government from 1997- 2010 did they set up a state owned energy company ? So what because Labour put it in a policy in a manifesto i now somehow have to give them credit for putting it in a manifesto but they had the chance to do that very thing from 1997 -2010 Scottish Labour branch put in their manifesto that they would scrap the council tax but failed to tell the Scottish voters that Scottish Labour and the Scottish Tories voted against scrapping the council tax in 2007. Labour think they can offer the world sunshine and rainbows because they know they wont be in power in Scotland " Some interesting points and it's worthy of note that Labour has probably shifted more following leadership changes than most other parties. It's wisdom to hold on to what we've learned from the past though looking at Labour from 2007 shows a party that's radically different from ten years later. Whilst the parties focus upon more than one policy, having distinct manifesto pledges is a great way to hold a party and its leader to account. As it was, the conservatives didn't get the election victory over the UK that they expected, so Labour moved closer to power as a government with a revolutionary shift from past strategies for the UK. The SNP and Labour have strong credibility as leading parties with progressive policies and intelligent, charismatic leaders - they are in opposition to each other but at least are working against many of the dangerously regressive policies that the cons shafted the majority of people with. | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister?
Ah have you now caught on to your mistake ? So who has a mandate in Scotland the Tories or SNP ?
So why doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster? Not willing to respect the way Scotland voted and elected the SNP ?
Fuck sake the clue is in the name Scottish National Party lol
The biggest party has the mandate for the whole of the UK. So you've never seen an SNP Prime Minister? Even though you think they have the mandate?
Your digging deeper and deeper lol
So you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with 13 Scottish Tory MP's ? You seem to be ignoring the fact the SNP have 35 Scottish seats out of 59
So the SNP have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto
No unionist branch office in Scotland have a mandate to deliver on their manifesto's they were rejected by the Scottish voters.
But hey keep digging the hole its shows your lack of knowledge
I remember last night someone saying that no pro indy supporter was backing me up
Can you notice that no one is willing to back you up when you claim the Tories have a mandate in Scotland lol
Out of interest what policies do you think the Scottish Tories should deliver in Scotland since you are saying they have a mandate ?
No, you're quite right. The SNP with 35 seats have the biggest mandate in Westminster with its 650 MPs. A couple of hundred years of political history has got it all wrong
"Read what i am saying the SNP have a ''mandate in Scotland'' And the SNP have every right to deliver on their policies from their 2017 manifesto Now since you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland can you tell me what polices should the Scottish Tory branch office deliver from their 2017 manifesto ? | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister?
Ah have you now caught on to your mistake ? So who has a mandate in Scotland the Tories or SNP ?
So why doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster? Not willing to respect the way Scotland voted and elected the SNP ?
Fuck sake the clue is in the name Scottish National Party lol
The biggest party has the mandate for the whole of the UK. So you've never seen an SNP Prime Minister? Even though you think they have the mandate?
Your digging deeper and deeper lol
So you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with 13 Scottish Tory MP's ? You seem to be ignoring the fact the SNP have 35 Scottish seats out of 59
So the SNP have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto
No unionist branch office in Scotland have a mandate to deliver on their manifesto's they were rejected by the Scottish voters.
But hey keep digging the hole its shows your lack of knowledge
I remember last night someone saying that no pro indy supporter was backing me up
Can you notice that no one is willing to back you up when you claim the Tories have a mandate in Scotland lol
Out of interest what policies do you think the Scottish Tories should deliver in Scotland since you are saying they have a mandate ?
No, you're quite right. The SNP with 35 seats have the biggest mandate in Westminster with its 650 MPs. A couple of hundred years of political history has got it all wrong
Read what i am saying the SNP have a ''mandate in Scotland'' And the SNP have every right to deliver on their policies from their 2017 manifesto
Now since you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland can you tell me what polices should the Scottish Tory branch office deliver from their 2017 manifesto ?
"Westminster represents the whole of the UK. | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister?
Ah have you now caught on to your mistake ? So who has a mandate in Scotland the Tories or SNP ?
So why doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster? Not willing to respect the way Scotland voted and elected the SNP ?
Fuck sake the clue is in the name Scottish National Party lol
The biggest party has the mandate for the whole of the UK. So you've never seen an SNP Prime Minister? Even though you think they have the mandate?
Your digging deeper and deeper lol
So you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with 13 Scottish Tory MP's ? You seem to be ignoring the fact the SNP have 35 Scottish seats out of 59
So the SNP have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto
No unionist branch office in Scotland have a mandate to deliver on their manifesto's they were rejected by the Scottish voters.
But hey keep digging the hole its shows your lack of knowledge
I remember last night someone saying that no pro indy supporter was backing me up
Can you notice that no one is willing to back you up when you claim the Tories have a mandate in Scotland lol
Out of interest what policies do you think the Scottish Tories should deliver in Scotland since you are saying they have a mandate ?
No, you're quite right. The SNP with 35 seats have the biggest mandate in Westminster with its 650 MPs. A couple of hundred years of political history has got it all wrong
Read what i am saying the SNP have a ''mandate in Scotland'' And the SNP have every right to deliver on their policies from their 2017 manifesto
Now since you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland can you tell me what polices should the Scottish Tory branch office deliver from their 2017 manifesto ?
Westminster represents the whole of the UK. "Yes Westminster is a UK parliament and in Westminster SNP have 35 MP's out of 59 Scottish seats which is the majority so they have a mandate to deliver on what was in their own manifesto. So since you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland tell what policies should they deliver from the Scottish Tory branch manifesto ? | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister?
Ah have you now caught on to your mistake ? So who has a mandate in Scotland the Tories or SNP ?
So why doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster? Not willing to respect the way Scotland voted and elected the SNP ?
Fuck sake the clue is in the name Scottish National Party lol
The biggest party has the mandate for the whole of the UK. So you've never seen an SNP Prime Minister? Even though you think they have the mandate?
Your digging deeper and deeper lol
So you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with 13 Scottish Tory MP's ? You seem to be ignoring the fact the SNP have 35 Scottish seats out of 59
So the SNP have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto
No unionist branch office in Scotland have a mandate to deliver on their manifesto's they were rejected by the Scottish voters.
But hey keep digging the hole its shows your lack of knowledge
I remember last night someone saying that no pro indy supporter was backing me up
Can you notice that no one is willing to back you up when you claim the Tories have a mandate in Scotland lol
Out of interest what policies do you think the Scottish Tories should deliver in Scotland since you are saying they have a mandate ?
No, you're quite right. The SNP with 35 seats have the biggest mandate in Westminster with its 650 MPs. A couple of hundred years of political history has got it all wrong
Read what i am saying the SNP have a ''mandate in Scotland'' And the SNP have every right to deliver on their policies from their 2017 manifesto
Now since you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland can you tell me what polices should the Scottish Tory branch office deliver from their 2017 manifesto ?
Westminster represents the whole of the UK.
Yes Westminster is a UK parliament and in Westminster SNP have 35 MP's out of 59 Scottish seats which is the majority so they have a mandate to deliver on what was in their own manifesto.
So since you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland tell what policies should they deliver from the Scottish Tory branch manifesto ? " | |||
" That actually made me lol its pretty obvious you dont know nuch about scottish politics if you think labour are a threat to the snp ,labour are dead in scotland and will never be a threat again as the scots who used to vote them will never trust them again ,when they stood on platform with the tories and also voted for tory austerity cuts that was the end for them SNP got 977,569 votes at the GE (down 476,867) Labour got 717,007 (up 9,860) So Labour got just over 73% of the number of votes the SNP got. SNP propaganda may claim they're dead but any neutral person, or even anyone with simple arithmetic skills, can obviously see that isn't the case. Yet SNP still managed to get 35 Scottish seats out of 59 thats the manjority try respecting it eh lol Do you think Ana Sarwar or Richard Leonard are going to be a threat to the SNP ? Lol Am looking forward to taking the utter piss out of either one of those branch office leaders both are utter shite but thats what you get with Labour branch lol "Try respecting it, eh?" Not surprised you want to disregard the number of voters and discuss seats, however SNP got 35 (Down 21), Labour got 262 (Up 30) So do you respect the SNP got the majority of Scottish seats in the UK election and thats gives them a mandate ? 262 With the messiah big JC as leader of Labour yet still couldnt beat a shit PM in Thersea May Face it Labour and Tory have fucked the UK yet people still vote for them lol The SNP didn't get a majority of seats in Westminster, so they don't have a mandate to do anything in Westminster! They weren't even the 2nd biggest party so they don't even have a mandate to become HM Opposition! What the actual fuck lol SNP won 35 Scottish seats out of 59 in the UK election do your math and you will see that is infact the majority so that means they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto fuck sake Did you know the unionist branch offices talked about devolved matters in the UK election thats how embarrassing and shite they really are so instead of telling Scottish voters would those MP's would do in Westminster they talked about devolved powers that lie in Holyrood fucking joke they lot of them Yeah, what the actual fuck. You think that 35 is more than half of 650. Oh my god now am questioning that you dont know how things work in Westminster lol Read what am saying there is 59 Scottish seats in Westminster correct ? The SNP got 35 Scottish seats out of 59 do your math and you will see thats the majority of Scottish seats so they have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto how fucking hard is that to work out lol That embarrassing Also what you seem to be saying is because there is 600+ English seats the 35 SNP MP's have to shut the fuck up and not be heard Jesus, you are getting worse? I've told you that there are 650 seats, you say that 59 of them are Scottish, and that over 600 are English. That's more than 650 without Wales or NI! Hilarious!
Your the one coming out and saying the SNP dont have a mandate even though the won the election with 35 Scottish seats out of 59 Scottish elections
So tell me who do you think has mandate in Scotland then ? This should be good lol
You have as poor a grasp of politics as you do maths
Come on you said the SNP dont have a mandate. So in your opinion who does have a mandate in Scotland then ?
You need to go back to school. The party with the most number of seats has a mandate to try and form a government.
Ah right so you are saying you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with only 13 Scottish Tory MP's out of 59 Scottish seats and you seem to be ignoring the 35 SNP mp's who hold the majority of seats in Scotland
Doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster. You must realise this right? Have you ever seen an SNP Prime Minister?
Ah have you now caught on to your mistake ? So who has a mandate in Scotland the Tories or SNP ?
So why doesn't make a shred of difference in Westminster? Not willing to respect the way Scotland voted and elected the SNP ?
Fuck sake the clue is in the name Scottish National Party lol
The biggest party has the mandate for the whole of the UK. So you've never seen an SNP Prime Minister? Even though you think they have the mandate?
Your digging deeper and deeper lol
So you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland with 13 Scottish Tory MP's ? You seem to be ignoring the fact the SNP have 35 Scottish seats out of 59
So the SNP have a mandate to deliver on their 2017 manifesto
No unionist branch office in Scotland have a mandate to deliver on their manifesto's they were rejected by the Scottish voters.
But hey keep digging the hole its shows your lack of knowledge
I remember last night someone saying that no pro indy supporter was backing me up
Can you notice that no one is willing to back you up when you claim the Tories have a mandate in Scotland lol
Out of interest what policies do you think the Scottish Tories should deliver in Scotland since you are saying they have a mandate ?
No, you're quite right. The SNP with 35 seats have the biggest mandate in Westminster with its 650 MPs. A couple of hundred years of political history has got it all wrong
Read what i am saying the SNP have a ''mandate in Scotland'' And the SNP have every right to deliver on their policies from their 2017 manifesto
Now since you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland can you tell me what polices should the Scottish Tory branch office deliver from their 2017 manifesto ?
Westminster represents the whole of the UK.
Yes Westminster is a UK parliament and in Westminster SNP have 35 MP's out of 59 Scottish seats which is the majority so they have a mandate to deliver on what was in their own manifesto.
So since you think the Tories have a mandate in Scotland tell what policies should they deliver from the Scottish Tory branch manifesto ? "So why haven't they ever done it then? If that's truely how it works, then what Act of Parliament has the SNP written since the election? | |||
" First quarter of the year the Scottish economy is outpeforming the rest of the UK by fucking miles not bad eh ----------------------------------- Second quarter the UK had 3 times as much growth as Scotland. Funny that you forgot to mention that. And if we want to take the trend the UK economy outgrew the Scottish one by 3 times last year (1.5% compared to 0.5%) This post seems to have been missed "I don't think it was "missed" it was ignored because its based in fact.....
which means thats since kinky can't argue it, they will swiftly bait and switch and take the conversation elsewhere....
p.s notic we are not talking "energy", or home rule...
that just get their talking points from "wings"...but don't know enough about the background to have a civilised debate... which means when they get found out... the conversation always go back to the bedroom tax, or council tax.... | |||
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"How do you know it will be cheaper? It might be more expensive. Might have known it Ah there is that SNP bad shit again lol Are you moaning about a pubic owed energy company in Scotland? actually you'll find that is labour party paolicy which was in their 2017 general election manifesto.... but that is still not answering the simple question.... how would it be cheaper? they are well within their rights to set up a state owned energy company.... they are not in effect any different from any of the competition and they will own the infrustructure... unless they are going to operate it as a "non for profit" organisation, which is not part of their plan.... people will still have to switch to this "state owned company" what this would do at best is create a price war.... they can basically freeze or try to undercut the competition... but at the end of the day... you need to be able to cover all your costs.... also if you are saying that scotland are underspending.... are you saying they will run it as a loss making company????? What am saying is Scotland budget is under spend so there is money there to be used if need be just incase the Tories bring any other shite cuts Scotland didnt vote for there is money to protect us Scottish people since unionists do NOT want to devolve real fucking power to Scotland they only want Scotland to keep mitigating Tory cuts Dont tell me you want the Scotland government to overspend ? That would be crazy for someone to say that and admit that wanting that to happen So if the Scottish Executive have underspent their budget why do taxes have to go up in Scotland ?? If Scotland is suffering from Tory austerity why is there a underspend ??? As John Swinney is on record as saying they will NOT underspend but make sure the budget is spent on the country. Do they have a new policy the Scottish electorate were not informed about ?? There is no tax raise. See when Labour want tax to raise and the Tories want tax cuts in Scotland you know the SNP are getting it right. So are you saying you want the Scottish government to overspend on the budget? That would be mental. The underspend money is there to use if need be is it not better to have that under spend money there incase the Tories push through something else like the bedroom tax where our Scottish government can mitigate it i would prefer to see things like that devolved where as unionists would rather keep that in Tory hands fucking mental! You know there is something seriously wrong when you have unionists in Scotland saying they would rather see the Scottish government mitigate Tory cuts than actually fight to have real powers devolved to Scotland. Swap SNP with Labour and Labour would be in the same position in Scotland where they would have to mitigate Tory cuts as things like the bedroom tax is not devolved so real question is why unionists dont want those powers devolved they would rather see it come out the Scottish budget to mitigate those cuts. I can take a wild guess why unionists dont want to see things like the bedroom tax and fracking devolved to Scotland because the minute it does and the SNP are showing the UK government up and doing things better the case for independence keeps going and going that Scotland can easily be independent and there will be none of the unionist shite of being too wee , too poor and far to thick to be independent. " I certainly want Scotland's books to balance but if you had watched the snp conference they have strongly suggested that taxes will be going up. They will probably blame Labour as when they voted in the Executive the whole of the snp abstained showing how gutless they really are. If they mitigate Tory injustice that is up to them. It is called governing, that is why ppl voted for them to take the easy and hard decissions. I am pleased that John swinny was lying when he stated he would spend the money and not squirrel it away | |||
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"There was a vote on raising tax last month. All the parties voted, mainly in favour and how did the SNP vote? Every single SNP member atained! So you have ther incredible situation where the party in government don't have an opinion on tax rates. *** Spoiler Alert *** They will increase tax but they don't want to accept responsibility for it so they'll claim it was the consensus of the parliament and the other parties to raise it." Obviously the SNP think that the Tories in Westminster are better placed to decide the tax rates in Scotland | |||
"There was a vote on raising tax last month. All the parties voted, mainly in favour and how did the SNP vote? Every single SNP member atained! So you have ther incredible situation where the party in government don't have an opinion on tax rates. *** Spoiler Alert *** They will increase tax but they don't want to accept responsibility for it so they'll claim it was the consensus of the parliament and the other parties to raise it. Obviously the SNP think that the Tories in Westminster are better placed to decide the tax rates in Scotland "I wish that was true as a higher rate tax payer it is lower in the RUK than Scotland  | |||
