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16 year afghan anniversary
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Afghans protesting about tbe occupation..
Some angry anout the collateral damage, civilians being killed.
/maimed just to target 1 taliban/isis fighter.
I take it this looks like a long haul but with the population being increasingly p'd off is it not time to leave?
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What, and then we have another Iraq on our hands?
I said when we pulled out in 2009 that we would be back within 10 years and I was correct.
I’m fairly confident I’m speaking for the majority of our Armed Forces when I say we should stay till the job is done, no matter how much of a commitment that is. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"What, and then we have another Iraq on our hands?
I said when we pulled out in 2009 that we would be back within 10 years and I was correct.
I’m fairly confident I’m speaking for the majority of our Armed Forces when I say we should stay till the job is done, no matter how much of a commitment that is. "
The taliban arnt exactly allies, but if they took control they'd be a better option than isis |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"We don't have any combat troops in Afghanistan (regular forces at least), British troops are running their officer training academy though. "
I would think a political solution is the only real way Nd include the taliban. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"We don't have any combat troops in Afghanistan (regular forces at least), British troops are running their officer training academy though.
I would think a political solution is the only real way Nd include the taliban. "
Did Mao find a political solution? Did North Vietnam?
Do you think that it's officer training that is the stumbling block to peace in Afghanistan? I don't. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
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We were (arguably) in Iraq illegally.....we came out and ISIS was the pretty much direct result.
We are in Afghanistan at the request of the internationally recognised legitimate government.....there's nothing illegal in that!
Having said that...the Taliban have never committed any actions outside their own territory of Afghanistan and Northern Pakistan. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
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The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
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This is what worries me : who defines international laws.?! Certainly tbe usa isn't interested unless someone else behaves the same way they do. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally. "
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though. "
Well that is a much bigger question. It is the only legitimate government, it is the only internationally recognised government. It was elected in internationally monitored elections. That's not to say its a great, or even a good government, but it is the only legitimate government. |
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By *ilk_TreMan
over a year ago
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though. "
I don't class the Conservative party as a legitimate government so I see your point.  |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though.
I don't class the Conservative party as a legitimate government so I see your point. "
Elections based on usa approved candidates, with western ideas.. What could go possibly wrong ?! 
In iraq, some candidates were rejected as they weren't inclined to be puppets to the occupation, i imagine the same setup in Afghanistan |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though. "
They were democratically elected and recognised by the UN..... or do you have your own special way of recognising a government? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though.
They were democratically elected and recognised by the UN..... or do you have your own special way of recognising a government?"
Actually yes. How about candidates put forward by the afghan population rather than by the usa.
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though.
They were democratically elected and recognised by the UN..... or do you have your own special way of recognising a government?"
The way i suggested is what you'd want to have in this country! |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though.
They were democratically elected and recognised by the UN..... or do you have your own special way of recognising a government?
Actually yes. How about candidates put forward by the afghan population rather than by the usa.
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You mean like the president they currently have? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though.
They were democratically elected and recognised by the UN..... or do you have your own special way of recognising a government?
Actually yes. How about candidates put forward by the afghan population rather than by the usa.
You mean like the president they currently have? "
You mmean trump or ashrif ghan what's his name? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though.
They were democratically elected and recognised by the UN..... or do you have your own special way of recognising a government?
Actually yes. How about candidates put forward by the afghan population rather than by the usa.
You mean like the president they currently have?
You mmean trump or ashrif ghan what's his name? "
Ashraf Ghani |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though.
They were democratically elected and recognised by the UN..... or do you have your own special way of recognising a government?
Actually yes. How about candidates put forward by the afghan population rather than by the usa.
You mean like the president they currently have? "
Your thoughts? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though.
They were democratically elected and recognised by the UN..... or do you have your own special way of recognising a government?
Actually yes. How about candidates put forward by the afghan population rather than by the usa.
You mean like the president they currently have?
You mmean trump or ashrif ghan what's his name?
Ashraf Ghani"
Sorry, distracted by hobbit & battle of the 5 armies.
Anyway.....
The americans tried to get rid of hamid Karzai..
This guy I'm not sure about... Yet. But, 'the foreign hand' influencing tbe outcome of who's up for the running doesn't sit well with me. Just My opinion so far
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By *LCCCouple
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"Have a look at the project for the new American century or the greater Israel project and you'll soon come to realise that neither we nor the yanks will be leaving that country or any others that we're illegally operating in any time soon.
Mr.
The UK is in Afghanistan by bilateral agreement. We are not there illegally.
Do the population accept the afghan goverment as legitimate though.
They were democratically elected and recognised by the UN..... or do you have your own special way of recognising a government?
Actually yes. How about candidates put forward by the afghan population rather than by the usa.
You mean like the president they currently have?
You mmean trump or ashrif ghan what's his name?
Ashraf Ghani
Sorry, distracted by hobbit & battle of the 5 armies.
Anyway.....
The americans tried to get rid of hamid Karzai..
This guy I'm not sure about... Yet. But, 'the foreign hand' influencing tbe outcome of who's up for the running doesn't sit well with me. Just My opinion so far
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But why do you have that opinion? Have you read the reports of the international monitoring teams? |
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