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Northern Ireland's access to the single market is assured after party leaders strike a deal giving one part of the UK special treatment.
Northern Ireland will be permitted to stay within the customs union and single market Europe is expected to announce this week.
The motion is expected to be passed next week to coincide with a promise of substantial funding, certainly more than the £1.2 billion offered from the UK government to the DUP.
Sinn Fein is said to be delighted with the move pushed forward by its MEP Martina Anderson in back room meetings which excluded Northern Ireland's 2 other MEPs |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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That would mean the UK/EU hard border being in the UK ports.
Sinn Fein will see this as a move towards possible reunification, and I've no doubt that Ms Sturgeon will have something to say but any agreement will ultimately have to be signed off by the UK Goverment. |
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To have one nation of the UK in the single market and the other three nations outside it would be bizzare.This could lead to UK breaking up.Because if it's good enough for northen Ireland its good enough for scotland or wales. |
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"To have one nation of the UK in the single market and the other three nations outside it would be bizzare.This could lead to UK breaking up.Because if it's good enough for northen Ireland its good enough for scotland or wales."
this..
risky strategy.. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The party leaders might agree but i doubt the EU will as NI is part of the UK lol
Sinn Fein are confident with their assurances from Europe that the deal will be signed off in the next few days"
Any news on how the DUP feel? |
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"The party leaders might agree but i doubt the EU will as NI is part of the UK lol
Sinn Fein are confident with their assurances from Europe that the deal will be signed off in the next few days
Any news on how the DUP feel? "
Angry.
But that's how they always are. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"The party leaders might agree but i doubt the EU will as NI is part of the UK lol
Sinn Fein are confident with their assurances from Europe that the deal will be signed off in the next few days
Any news on how the DUP feel? "
the DUP wouldn't say no to that deal..... as others have said the big problem is that if that was the case then Sturgeon would be fuming!!! and it would put ruth davidson and the scottish tories in a particularly awkward position.... |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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"The party leaders might agree but i doubt the EU will as NI is part of the UK lol
Sinn Fein are confident with their assurances from Europe that the deal will be signed off in the next few days
Any news on how the DUP feel?
the DUP wouldn't say no to that deal..... as others have said the big problem is that if that was the case then Sturgeon would be fuming!!! and it would put ruth davidson and the scottish tories in a particularly awkward position...."
Unfortunately for Ms Sturgeon, Scotland does not have a border with another EU country. And that's a fact she won't be able to twist to suit her agenda.
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"The party leaders might agree but i doubt the EU will as NI is part of the UK lol
Sinn Fein are confident with their assurances from Europe that the deal will be signed off in the next few days
Any news on how the DUP feel? "
No word from the DUP, but the TUV leader said, "the promise of Northern Ireland staying in the single market and customs union is not worth a row of buttons without agreement from Downing Street. And we must remember who Downing Street depends on in power - not a party who would want to see any constitutional challenge on the union". |
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This is the only realistic solution and its one that will suit the EU. But the DUP surely wont support an idea that leaves Northern Ireland closer to Ireland than the rest of the UK.
However if they do, then its a major obstacle removed from negotiations. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"To have one nation of the UK in the single market and the other three nations outside it would be bizzare.This could lead to UK breaking up.Because if it's good enough for northen Ireland its good enough for scotland or wales.
this..
Surely have one of the nations of the UK in the SM and CU whilst the others are not will lead to internal capital flight for companies which require those facilities?
Will we have the Norway Sweden issue where people pop across to NI to bulk buy good to avoid and potential tarriffs?
risky strategy.."
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"The party leaders might agree but i doubt the EU will as NI is part of the UK lol
Sinn Fein are confident with their assurances from Europe that the deal will be signed off in the next few days"
"Back room" assurances....from who? |
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"The party leaders might agree but i doubt the EU will as NI is part of the UK lol
Sinn Fein are confident with their assurances from Europe that the deal will be signed off in the next few days
"Back room" assurances....from who?"
The EU. Guy Verhofstadt said last week during the debate prior to the vote on not to move on with the next phase of discussions, that he wants an agreement attached to the Brexit withdrawal deal to ensure the Good Friday Agreement is protected, so it is taking shape  |
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"So the Irish government have just come out and said that an open border between the UK and Ireland is impossible "
It is, theres no way that there can be a free flow of goods from the UK to Ireland and Ireland to the rest of the EU. The goods from the UK wont meet the standards set by the EU if the UK roll back regulations.
There also cant be a hard border between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland as it will damage the local economy and could increase tensions. The only logical way forward is to keep Northern Ireland in the single market and keep the hard border between NI and the UK. |
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"So the Irish government have just come out and said that an open border between the UK and Ireland is impossible
It is, theres no way that there can be a free flow of goods from the UK to Ireland and Ireland to the rest of the EU. The goods from the UK wont meet the standards set by the EU if the UK roll back regulations.
There also cant be a hard border between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland as it will damage the local economy and could increase tensions. The only logical way forward is to keep Northern Ireland in the single market and keep the hard border between NI and the UK."
The Irish government have said there MUST be a hard border |
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"So the Irish government have just come out and said that an open border between the UK and Ireland is impossible
It is, theres no way that there can be a free flow of goods from the UK to Ireland and Ireland to the rest of the EU. The goods from the UK wont meet the standards set by the EU if the UK roll back regulations.
There also cant be a hard border between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland as it will damage the local economy and could increase tensions. The only logical way forward is to keep Northern Ireland in the single market and keep the hard border between NI and the UK.
The Irish government have said there MUST be a hard border "
Yes but youre missing their point.
There MUST be a hard border between the UK and the single market. And there MUST NOT be a border between Ireland and N. Ireland. And theres only 1 way to accomplish that. |
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"So the Irish government have just come out and said that an open border between the UK and Ireland is impossible
It is, theres no way that there can be a free flow of goods from the UK to Ireland and Ireland to the rest of the EU. The goods from the UK wont meet the standards set by the EU if the UK roll back regulations.
There also cant be a hard border between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland as it will damage the local economy and could increase tensions. The only logical way forward is to keep Northern Ireland in the single market and keep the hard border between NI and the UK.
The Irish government have said there MUST be a hard border
Yes but youre missing their point.
There MUST be a hard border between the UK and the single market. And there MUST NOT be a border between Ireland and N. Ireland. And theres only 1 way to accomplish that."
No im not...your customs and excise have just come out and have said there MUST be a hard border between NTH and STH...its being reported now on the news |
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"So the Irish government have just come out and said that an open border between the UK and Ireland is impossible
It is, theres no way that there can be a free flow of goods from the UK to Ireland and Ireland to the rest of the EU. The goods from the UK wont meet the standards set by the EU if the UK roll back regulations.
There also cant be a hard border between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland as it will damage the local economy and could increase tensions. The only logical way forward is to keep Northern Ireland in the single market and keep the hard border between NI and the UK.
The Irish government have said there MUST be a hard border
Yes but youre missing their point.
There MUST be a hard border between the UK and the single market. And there MUST NOT be a border between Ireland and N. Ireland. And theres only 1 way to accomplish that.
No im not...your customs and excise have just come out and have said there MUST be a hard border between NTH and STH...its being reported now on the news "
The revenue service has produced a paper dealing with the effects of a border between the EU and UK. A seperate customs union and a seamless border have been deemed unworkable between N. Ireland and Ireland.
They havent said that there must be a hard border between Ireland and the north because that is neither in their remit nor the reports. It is simply stating that Mays fantasy of a seperate customs union and seamless border is unworkable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"So the Irish government have just come out and said that an open border between the UK and Ireland is impossible
It is, theres no way that there can be a free flow of goods from the UK to Ireland and Ireland to the rest of the EU. The goods from the UK wont meet the standards set by the EU if the UK roll back regulations.
There also cant be a hard border between Northern Ireland and the rest of Ireland as it will damage the local economy and could increase tensions. The only logical way forward is to keep Northern Ireland in the single market and keep the hard border between NI and the UK.
The Irish government have said there MUST be a hard border
Yes but youre missing their point.
There MUST be a hard border between the UK and the single market. And there MUST NOT be a border between Ireland and N. Ireland. And theres only 1 way to accomplish that.
No im not...your customs and excise have just come out and have said there MUST be a hard border between NTH and STH...its being reported now on the news
The revenue service has produced a paper dealing with the effects of a border between the EU and UK. A seperate customs union and a seamless border have been deemed unworkable between N. Ireland and Ireland.
They havent said that there must be a hard border between Ireland and the north because that is neither in their remit nor the reports. It is simply stating that Mays fantasy of a seperate customs union and seamless border is unworkable."
The news reported it over here as impossible...from there prospective...sounds tbh like we are basically saying the same thing...or the news report is |
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