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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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As perverts, liberalists and swingers, I'm interested to see who is pro Brexit and who is anti. David Davis is spouting a load of bollox on telly right now....
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Several years on these forums have destroyed amy naive idealist notion that swingers are also libratarian in their views.
But to answer your question. Remain |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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You would think that Swingers by their nature would be liberal and open minded because swinging is such a marginalised activity. Not so. This forum is riddled with those who openly celebrate the progress of extreme right wing intolerance. Can't help but wonder how some people square up the concept of the sanctity of marriage and family with their chosen hobby. |
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"You would think that Swingers by their nature would be liberal and open minded because swinging is such a marginalised activity. Not so. This forum is riddled with those who openly celebrate the progress of extreme right wing intolerance. Can't help but wonder how some people square up the concept of the sanctity of marriage and family with their chosen hobby."
I thought this thread was about Brexit? I must have missed something |
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"You would think that Swingers by their nature would be liberal and open minded because swinging is such a marginalised activity. Not so. This forum is riddled with those who openly celebrate the progress of extreme right wing intolerance. Can't help but wonder how some people square up the concept of the sanctity of marriage and family with their chosen hobby.
I thought this thread was about Brexit? I must have missed something "
No you did,nt miss anything just treat such comments with the contempt they deserve.  |
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"You would think that Swingers by their nature would be liberal and open minded because swinging is such a marginalised activity. Not so. This forum is riddled with those who openly celebrate the progress of extreme right wing intolerance. Can't help but wonder how some people square up the concept of the sanctity of marriage and family with their chosen hobby."
. All this' from a cpl who labels ppl racist and traitors for simply having a different opinion about brexit. Your not as open minded as you would like folk to believe guys
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"You would think that Swingers by their nature would be liberal and open minded because swinging is such a marginalised activity. Not so. This forum is riddled with those who openly celebrate the progress of extreme right wing intolerance. Can't help but wonder how some people square up the concept of the sanctity of marriage and family with their chosen hobby.
I thought this thread was about Brexit? I must have missed something "
It is about politics but brexit has hijacked it people do not discuss other political issues much sadly |
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"You would think that Swingers by their nature would be liberal and open minded because swinging is such a marginalised activity. Not so. This forum is riddled with those who openly celebrate the progress of extreme right wing intolerance. Can't help but wonder how some people square up the concept of the sanctity of marriage and family with their chosen hobby.
I thought this thread was about Brexit? I must have missed something It is about politics but brexit has hijacked it people do not discuss other political issues much sadly"
Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil?
It is in the brexit forum after all.
I blame Brexit
Quite rightly so. 
And the Romans. Bastards "
What have the Romans or the EU ever done for us.Bastards.  |
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I'm happy yo take a new look at the situation as it stands today, ather than when the referendum was -
Remain.
It's clear that the tosspots with May who should be working for us are inept and the country will be duly hobbled..
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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I don't really think that "what trade cartel?" is really a left-wing issue.
I voted remain, only because the notion of the Tories getting their hands on the UK unfettered fills me with terror. Ideologically, however I am against the EU and it's attempt to bring is ever closer to "peak capitalism". |
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Remain.
If there are problems with the EU then we need to get stuck in there and sort them out. A failing EU on our doorstep would be disaster for the UK whether we're in or out. A successful EU on our doorstep could also be a disaster to the UK if we are not part of it. |
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Remain. Indeed, for me, it's the wrong way. Nationalism seems outdated these days and I'd like bigger countriees and fewer(no) borders. United states of earth is where we should be aiming. Too many issues now are global and we're getting caught up in petty squabbles between countries that should be one. |
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By *plpxp2Couple
over a year ago
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Brexit has hijacked a thread about Brexit? Is there no end to this evil?
It is in the brexit forum after all.
I blame Brexit
Quite rightly so.
And the Romans. Bastards
What have the Romans or the EU ever done for us.Bastards. "
Err roads
Plumbing 
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It is possible to dislike bureaucrats, have concerns about further European integration and regard the whole European projupect as rather undemocratic and also to have concern about the aithority of the European Court and the rate of UK contributions
AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It is possible to dislike bureaucrats, have concerns about further European integration and regard the whole European projupect as rather undemocratic and also to have concern about the aithority of the European Court and the rate of UK contributions
AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.
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What is the problem with Bombardier exactly?
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"It is possible to dislike bureaucrats, have concerns about further European integration and regard the whole European projupect as rather undemocratic and also to have concern about the aithority of the European Court and the rate of UK contributions
AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.
What is the problem with Bombardier exactly?
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Extortionate tariffs imposed by the yanks for supposedly breaking government financial support rules |
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Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards! |
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"It is possible to dislike bureaucrats, have concerns about further European integration and regard the whole European projupect as rather undemocratic and also to have concern about the aithority of the European Court and the rate of UK contributions
AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.
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That's what it looks like from INSIDE the EU...which is where we are now. I'm not saying it would be better or worse if we were out..... that's the point NO ONE KNOWS!
For me I'm a realist. We (as a country) voted out. Therefore we need to get the best "out" we can.
Labour want a transition period. Tories have now gone down the same route. Messages coming from EU seem to be more in line with UKIP in that the 2 years of article 50 IS the transition period!
Can't see the wankers in government getting it sorted in the next 18 months! |
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!"
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates |
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"It is possible to dislike bureaucrats, have concerns about further European integration and regard the whole European projupect as rather undemocratic and also to have concern about the aithority of the European Court and the rate of UK contributions
AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.
What is the problem with Bombardier exactly?
Extortionate tariffs imposed by the yanks for supposedly breaking government financial support rules "
Almost as if the Canadian government were buying the planes from bombardier, before selling them on to the airlines for next to nothing. Almost "free" planes. The US were right to challenge this illegal activity. Or "dumping". |
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates "
What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back. |
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates
What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back."
You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion. |
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates
What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back."
Err the EU is a superstate in waiting and none of us get to vote for the likes of Junker ..... end of |
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates
What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back.
You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion. "
Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law. |
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Err the EU is a superstate in waiting and none of us get to vote for the likes of Junker ..... end of "
The EU is nowhere near integrated enough yet or have the infrastructure to be a single state yet. They're getting there but it will take decades of reform and legislation. As for voting. If you choose not to vote in European elections that is your protected right to exercise. I have never failed to vote from the day I was old enough. Local, national or European. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"It is possible to dislike bureaucrats, have concerns about further European integration and regard the whole European projupect as rather undemocratic and also to have concern about the aithority of the European Court and the rate of UK contributions
AND to see that leaving the EU is the most stupid piece of economic self harm from which the UK may never recover. Look at Bombardier to see what trade with the world will now look like.
What is the problem with Bombardier exactly?
Extortionate tariffs imposed by the yanks for supposedly breaking government financial support rules "
I know about the tariffs but how will this be any different when we leave the EU?
All the US are doing is protecting their own. Boeing gets tax breaks and huge US defence contracts so they get financial support albeit in a different manner. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected
No she was unapposed as leader by her party."
How did junker become an MEP?
I think you are just inhaling your opinions from the tabloids. |
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"It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected
No she was unapposed as leader by her party.
How did junker become an MEP?
I think you are just inhaling your opinions from the tabloids. "
The MEPs voted him in. We vote for the MEPs to represent us.
And I don't read any of the newspapers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected
No she was unapposed as leader by her party.
How did junker become an MEP?
I think you are just inhaling your opinions from the tabloids. "
Juncker isn't an MEP. |
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"It doesn't matter... You could say she was unelected
No she was unapposed as leader by her party.
How did junker become an MEP?
I think you are just inhaling your opinions from the tabloids.
The MEPs voted him in. We vote for the MEPs to represent us.
And I don't read any of the newspapers."
Eh no the countries leaders chose Junker |
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates
What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back.
You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.
Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law."
You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural. |
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"The MEPs voted him in. We vote for the MEPs to represent us.
Eh no the countries leaders chose Junker "
The countries leaders (who are also voted for to represent us) sit on the European Council. They propose candidates.
The European Parliament votes from those candidates who is be president. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates
What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back.
You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.
Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law.
You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural."
How many cultures do you need to assimilate to be multi cultural .My guess is 2. |
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates
What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back.
You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.
Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law.
You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural. How many cultures do you need to assimilate to be multi cultural .My guess is 2."
At least 4 "races" and at least 5 religions protected by law. |
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You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural."
Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head. |
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates
What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back.
You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.
Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law.
You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural. How many cultures do you need to assimilate to be multi cultural .My guess is 2.
At least 4 "races" and at least 5 religions protected by law."
Is that a fact ? Is there a link.. |
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You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.
Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head."
If you want to see which countries are multi cultural watch the Olympic opening ceremony. From the faces you won't be able to tell the difference between, let's say france the uk and the usa. (All multi cultural). But you'll be able to spot which countries are from africa and Asia. |
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"Remain. I'm a liberal Globalist. The time of the self interested nation states is finally moving on.
But people from Saturn. I hate them. Coming over here stealing our jobs and eating our women. Bastards!
Yeah self interested nation states are done, bring on the more corrupt unelected superstates
What superstates? That's the whole point of a one world future. As for unelected, how else do you expect what ever ruling body to get in place? There will always be politics so there will always be factions, (or as we call them political parties), so the people will still vote. But sadly that will be centuries away yet. Progress comes in inching forward with the occasional step back.
You'll only get that when we're all the same colour and religion.
Why? Most westernised countries now are broadly multi cultural. No reason for our diversity to disappear. In fact it could be protected in law.
You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural. How many cultures do you need to assimilate to be multi cultural .My guess is 2.
At least 4 "races" and at least 5 religions protected by law. Is that a fact ? Is there a link.."
No! Its a guess as yours was.  |
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You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.
Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head."
Jesus, if American culture is spreading we'll all soon be dead. |
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Apparently if you're ooking for a real multicultural experience?
Head to Chad in north-central Africa where 8.6 million residents belong to more than 100 ethnic groups or to Togo, home to 37 tribal groups that speak one of 39 languages and share little in the way of a common culture or history. |
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"Apparently if you're ooking for a real multicultural experience?
Head to Chad in north-central Africa where 8.6 million residents belong to more than 100 ethnic groups or to Togo, home to 37 tribal groups that speak one of 39 languages and share little in the way of a common culture or history."
And all without being Americanized! How can this be?!
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You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.
Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head.
If you want to see which countries are multi cultural watch the Olympic opening ceremony. From the faces you won't be able to tell the difference between, let's say france the uk and the usa. (All multi cultural). But you'll be able to spot which countries are from africa and Asia. "
Asian and African countries have many cultural groupings. None are from just one group. Pick a country and I'll prove it. Even if you ignore indigenous groups modern population movements have changed things. Good example is southern Africa. There are massive Indian and Chinese populations there now. |
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"Apparently if you're ooking for a real multicultural experience?
Head to Chad in north-central Africa where 8.6 million residents belong to more than 100 ethnic groups or to Togo, home to 37 tribal groups that speak one of 39 languages and share little in the way of a common culture or history.
And all without being Americanized! How can this be?!
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I'll bet you that their youngsters are wearing baseball caps and listening to rap music just like the kids here. |
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You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.
Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head.
If you want to see which countries are multi cultural watch the Olympic opening ceremony. From the faces you won't be able to tell the difference between, let's say france the uk and the usa. (All multi cultural). But you'll be able to spot which countries are from africa and Asia.
Asian and African countries have many cultural groupings. None are from just one group. Pick a country and I'll prove it. Even if you ignore indigenous groups modern population movements have changed things. Good example is southern Africa. There are massive Indian and Chinese populations there now. "
Is that because they're extracting the natural resources and sending it all back to China? And using the Indians as cheap labour? |
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You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.
Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head.
If you want to see which countries are multi cultural watch the Olympic opening ceremony. From the faces you won't be able to tell the difference between, let's say france the uk and the usa. (All multi cultural). But you'll be able to spot which countries are from africa and Asia.
Asian and African countries have many cultural groupings. None are from just one group. Pick a country and I'll prove it. Even if you ignore indigenous groups modern population movements have changed things. Good example is southern Africa. There are massive Indian and Chinese populations there now.
Is that because they're extracting the natural resources and sending it all back to China? And using the Indians as cheap labour? "
They got left behind at the end of the colonial period and have thrived since |
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You know, most countries aren't "western" or multi-cultural.
Not western but westernizing due to the dominance of American culture. And very few countries are mono-cultures. In fact I can only think of Bhutan off the top of my head.
If you want to see which countries are multi cultural watch the Olympic opening ceremony. From the faces you won't be able to tell the difference between, let's say france the uk and the usa. (All multi cultural). But you'll be able to spot which countries are from africa and Asia.
Asian and African countries have many cultural groupings. None are from just one group. Pick a country and I'll prove it. Even if you ignore indigenous groups modern population movements have changed things. Good example is southern Africa. There are massive Indian and Chinese populations there now.
Is that because they're extracting the natural resources and sending it all back to China? And using the Indians as cheap labour?
They got left behind at the end of the colonial period and have thrived since "
Unlike poor old Togo eh? |
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"Apparently if you're ooking for a real multicultural experience?
Head to Chad in north-central Africa where 8.6 million residents belong to more than 100 ethnic groups or to Togo, home to 37 tribal groups that speak one of 39 languages and share little in the way of a common culture or history."
Faure Gnassingbe Eyadema succeeded his father, who died in 2005 after ruling the country (Togo) with an iron fist for 38 years.
The military installed Faure Gnassingbe as president, but following intense domestic and international pressure he called elections. Hundreds died challenging his victory in those polls.
Gnassingbe has won two more elections, in 2010 and 2015. Both were decried by the opposition, but the European Union, Togo's leading international lender, said the 2015 election "went off calmly, confirming the Togolese people's attachment to democracy".
Good old EU..... |
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Is that because they're extracting the natural resources and sending it all back to China? And using the Indians as cheap labour?
They got left behind at the end of the colonial period and have thrived since
Unlike poor old Togo eh?"
Togo was a small French colony in West Africa. They still speak French to each other when meeting someone from a different group.
I think the Chinese have a strong business influence there now? Not sure on that though. |
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Could you define a multi cultural country as one where you can not be prejudiced against for the language you speak, the colour of your skin, the god you want to worship, or the type of person you want to fuck. With those rights protected by law? |
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" Could you define a multi cultural country as one where you can not be prejudiced against for the language you speak, the colour of your skin, the god you want to worship, or the type of person you want to fuck. With those rights protected by law?"
Not yet sadly. But it is where humanity is heading towards. Slowly though. In alot of places being different still generates a negative reaction. We as Swingers are on the receiving end of that even in our mostly enlightened country. |
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"OP, asking for a Pole in a brexit thread, might be mis-interpreted. I think a poll is a better idea "
First one to notice my mistake. For once we can't blame it on the Poles! |
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