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By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem. |
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"By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem."
....Read the other day that the house that Al Gore lives in.. Uses the electricity equivalent of thirty average houses.?... Preaching from hypocrites will never save the planet. |
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"Apparently sperm count is falling across the world so there should be fewer numbers of future generations. Nature works in mysterious ways  "
The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries. |
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"The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries. "
Well if we keep feeding and watering populations that refuse to use contraception and live in parts of the world that can't support their numbers then the population will explode. Of course their is a simple answer to this problem. Stop feeding them.
Yes, there will be deaths due to famine and drought, but the population will stabilise and maybe even start falling, there will also be a drop in demand on world resources and a lowering in human CO and CO2 emissions due to less need to burn trees and fossil fuels for heat and cooking in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Now I know many are going to be outraged that I would even suggest this, but at some point this is what the human race will have to do if we do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs and the longer we leave it until we act the more painful it will be for the human race. |
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People of the world feel entitled to have as many kids as they like.
With the ever increasing innovations in medical advances, responsible birth control is needed |
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"The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries.
Well if we keep feeding and watering populations that refuse to use contraception and live in parts of the world that can't support their numbers then the population will explode. Of course their is a simple answer to this problem. Stop feeding them.
Yes, there will be deaths due to famine and drought, but the population will stabilise and maybe even start falling, there will also be a drop in demand on world resources and a lowering in human CO and CO2 emissions due to less need to burn trees and fossil fuels for heat and cooking in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Now I know many are going to be outraged that I would even suggest this, but at some point this is what the human race will have to do if we do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs and the longer we leave it until we act the more painful it will be for the human race."
I think you'll find it is developed countries that are responsible for global warming over the last couple of centuries due to industrialisation and in the last few decades our consumption of resources for 'stuff'.
A less brutal alternative to managing population growth in developing countries is educating girls: there is a direct relationship between levels of female education and population growth http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/educate-girls-to-stop-population-soaring-1050580.html
BTW 'refuse to use contraception': I doubt most women in the populations you refer to have access to, or a say in, the use of contraception so this comment appears rather ignorant. |
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By *uxinteriorMan
over a year ago
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Well I'm sure Messrs. Geldoff and Bono have the answers, I'm pretty sure the Hogwarts creator may have a solution and Madame Madonna is a learned authority these days.
GREED! the Adamms family were right!
Check your bins, look around your lounge, look in your garage, as consumers were all to blame. Simply put we all contribute to the messy planet we inhabit.
On a personal level I try and do my bit, but it's near impossible to be absolutely zero carbon footprint. Dick Strawbridge may hold the answer!
Oh and don't rely too much on what a celebrity says as they are the biggest hypocrites living. |
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"By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem.....Read the other day that the house that Al Gore lives in.. Uses the electricity equivalent of thirty average houses.?... Preaching from hypocrites will never save the planet. "
Where did you read that exactly? |
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"The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries.
Well if we keep feeding and watering populations that refuse to use contraception and live in parts of the world that can't support their numbers then the population will explode. Of course their is a simple answer to this problem. Stop feeding them.
Yes, there will be deaths due to famine and drought, but the population will stabilise and maybe even start falling, there will also be a drop in demand on world resources and a lowering in human CO and CO2 emissions due to less need to burn trees and fossil fuels for heat and cooking in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Now I know many are going to be outraged that I would even suggest this, but at some point this is what the human race will have to do if we do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs and the longer we leave it until we act the more painful it will be for the human race."
I'm sorry but this is all incorrect.
One thing which always drives population growth is crisis. In the developing world children generally care for their parents in their old age. So, if mortality rates are higher then people have more kids as "insurance".
One thing which always lowers population is female literacy and education.
Leaving people to disaster just leads to more disaster. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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The extra billions in the devolping world aren't really the problem. Its the developed world thats the problem. The 12 percent of the world’s population that lives in North America and Western Europe accounts for 60 percent of private consumption spending, while the one-third living in South Asia and sub-Saharan Africa accounts for only 3.2 percent.
The United States, with less than 5 % of the global population, uses about a quarter of the world’s fossil fuel resources—burning up nearly 25 % of the coal, 26 % of the oil, and 27 % of the world’s natural gas |
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"The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries.
Well if we keep feeding and watering populations that refuse to use contraception and live in parts of the world that can't support their numbers then the population will explode. Of course their is a simple answer to this problem. Stop feeding them.
Yes, there will be deaths due to famine and drought, but the population will stabilise and maybe even start falling, there will also be a drop in demand on world resources and a lowering in human CO and CO2 emissions due to less need to burn trees and fossil fuels for heat and cooking in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Now I know many are going to be outraged that I would even suggest this, but at some point this is what the human race will have to do if we do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs and the longer we leave it until we act the more painful it will be for the human race.
I'm sorry but this is all incorrect.
One thing which always drives population growth is crisis. In the developing world children generally care for their parents in their old age. So, if mortality rates are higher then people have more kids as "insurance".
One thing which always lowers population is female literacy and education.
Leaving people to disaster just leads to more disaster."
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Your quite correct, however it's a catch 22 situation, educating women and giving them a career certainty does lower the birth rate substantially.... However turning 2.2 billon third world women into first world women won't cure this problem as proven by western standards all that happens is you use five times more resources than when you had no job and ten children!.
When we as a species got on the treadmill of life it was inevitable that it would end, all births are a sexual disease that upto now is fatal in every case.
Our fate as a species was always death just as in life.... The sad bit is really not our own demise but the fact that as an intelligent species we'll probably take 90% of everything else with us and leave a planet uninhabitable for life for another 50 million years |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries.
Well if we keep feeding and watering populations that refuse to use contraception and live in parts of the world that can't support their numbers then the population will explode. Of course their is a simple answer to this problem. Stop feeding them.
Yes, there will be deaths due to famine and drought, but the population will stabilise and maybe even start falling, there will also be a drop in demand on world resources and a lowering in human CO and CO2 emissions due to less need to burn trees and fossil fuels for heat and cooking in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Now I know many are going to be outraged that I would even suggest this, but at some point this is what the human race will have to do if we do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs and the longer we leave it until we act the more painful it will be for the human race.
I'm sorry but this is all incorrect.
One thing which always drives population growth is crisis. In the developing world children generally care for their parents in their old age. So, if mortality rates are higher then people have more kids as "insurance".
One thing which always lowers population is female literacy and education.
Leaving people to disaster just leads to more disaster..
Your quite correct, however it's a catch 22 situation, educating women and giving them a career certainty does lower the birth rate substantially.... However turning 2.2 billon third world women into first world women won't cure this problem as proven by western standards all that happens is you use five times more resources than when you had no job and ten children!.
When we as a species got on the treadmill of life it was inevitable that it would end, all births are a sexual disease that upto now is fatal in every case.
Our fate as a species was always death just as in life.... The sad bit is really not our own demise but the fact that as an intelligent species we'll probably take 90% of everything else with us and leave a planet uninhabitable for life for another 50 million years"
What a bleak world view! |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries.
Well if we keep feeding and watering populations that refuse to use contraception and live in parts of the world that can't support their numbers then the population will explode. Of course their is a simple answer to this problem. Stop feeding them.
Yes, there will be deaths due to famine and drought, but the population will stabilise and maybe even start falling, there will also be a drop in demand on world resources and a lowering in human CO and CO2 emissions due to less need to burn trees and fossil fuels for heat and cooking in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Now I know many are going to be outraged that I would even suggest this, but at some point this is what the human race will have to do if we do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs and the longer we leave it until we act the more painful it will be for the human race.
I'm sorry but this is all incorrect.
One thing which always drives population growth is crisis. In the developing world children generally care for their parents in their old age. So, if mortality rates are higher then people have more kids as "insurance".
One thing which always lowers population is female literacy and education.
Leaving people to disaster just leads to more disaster..
Your quite correct, however it's a catch 22 situation, educating women and giving them a career certainty does lower the birth rate substantially.... However turning 2.2 billon third world women into first world women won't cure this problem as proven by western standards all that happens is you use five times more resources than when you had no job and ten children!.
When we as a species got on the treadmill of life it was inevitable that it would end, all births are a sexual disease that upto now is fatal in every case.
Our fate as a species was always death just as in life.... The sad bit is really not our own demise but the fact that as an intelligent species we'll probably take 90% of everything else with us and leave a planet uninhabitable for life for another 50 million years
What a bleak world view! "
10,000 years ago, humans, livestock, and pets accounted for 1/10th of 1% of the Earth's terrestrial vertebrate landmass. Today it's 98%.The wild animals are now on the edge of extinction.
Unfortunately we are living during a mass extinction event.Last year 30% of all the coral on the great barrier reef died in one single bleaching event. It was equivalent to losing 30% of all the trees in the UK in 1 single year.
I think we must ask ourselves do we need trees do we need coral reefs. |
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"The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries.
Well if we keep feeding and watering populations that refuse to use contraception and live in parts of the world that can't support their numbers then the population will explode. Of course their is a simple answer to this problem. Stop feeding them.
Yes, there will be deaths due to famine and drought, but the population will stabilise and maybe even start falling, there will also be a drop in demand on world resources and a lowering in human CO and CO2 emissions due to less need to burn trees and fossil fuels for heat and cooking in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Now I know many are going to be outraged that I would even suggest this, but at some point this is what the human race will have to do if we do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs and the longer we leave it until we act the more painful it will be for the human race.
I'm sorry but this is all incorrect.
One thing which always drives population growth is crisis. In the developing world children generally care for their parents in their old age. So, if mortality rates are higher then people have more kids as "insurance".
One thing which always lowers population is female literacy and education.
Leaving people to disaster just leads to more disaster..
Your quite correct, however it's a catch 22 situation, educating women and giving them a career certainty does lower the birth rate substantially.... However turning 2.2 billon third world women into first world women won't cure this problem as proven by western standards all that happens is you use five times more resources than when you had no job and ten children!.
When we as a species got on the treadmill of life it was inevitable that it would end, all births are a sexual disease that upto now is fatal in every case.
Our fate as a species was always death just as in life.... The sad bit is really not our own demise but the fact that as an intelligent species we'll probably take 90% of everything else with us and leave a planet uninhabitable for life for another 50 million years
What a bleak world view! "
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Reality is sometimes bleak I'm afraid, the evidence would suggest we're beyond the point of "saving ourselves" although it's still possible to leave a planet capable of sustaining life of sorts.
All life outgrows its biosphere, like bacteria in a Petri dish, they multiply until no resources are left and then die, its how nature works, considering we're named as the "wise" ape, we could at least live up to it a little bit |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem.....Read the other day that the house that Al Gore lives in.. Uses the electricity equivalent of thirty average houses.?... Preaching from hypocrites will never save the planet. "
Some bloke lives in a big house? Climate change must be a lie! |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem.....Read the other day that the house that Al Gore lives in.. Uses the electricity equivalent of thirty average houses.?... Preaching from hypocrites will never save the planet.
Some bloke lives in a big house? Climate change must be a lie! "
...Has there ever been a time in human history when there hasn't been climate change.....and what is the ideal temperature. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries.
Well if we keep feeding and watering populations that refuse to use contraception and live in parts of the world that can't support their numbers then the population will explode. Of course their is a simple answer to this problem. Stop feeding them.
Yes, there will be deaths due to famine and drought, but the population will stabilise and maybe even start falling, there will also be a drop in demand on world resources and a lowering in human CO and CO2 emissions due to less need to burn trees and fossil fuels for heat and cooking in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Now I know many are going to be outraged that I would even suggest this, but at some point this is what the human race will have to do if we do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs and the longer we leave it until we act the more painful it will be for the human race.
I'm sorry but this is all incorrect.
One thing which always drives population growth is crisis. In the developing world children generally care for their parents in their old age. So, if mortality rates are higher then people have more kids as "insurance".
One thing which always lowers population is female literacy and education.
Leaving people to disaster just leads to more disaster..
Your quite correct, however it's a catch 22 situation, educating women and giving them a career certainty does lower the birth rate substantially.... However turning 2.2 billon third world women into first world women won't cure this problem as proven by western standards all that happens is you use five times more resources than when you had no job and ten children!.
When we as a species got on the treadmill of life it was inevitable that it would end, all births are a sexual disease that upto now is fatal in every case.
Our fate as a species was always death just as in life.... The sad bit is really not our own demise but the fact that as an intelligent species we'll probably take 90% of everything else with us and leave a planet uninhabitable for life for another 50 million years
What a bleak world view! .
Reality is sometimes bleak I'm afraid, the evidence would suggest we're beyond the point of "saving ourselves" although it's still possible to leave a planet capable of sustaining life of sorts.
All life outgrows its biosphere, like bacteria in a Petri dish, they multiply until no resources are left and then die, its how nature works, considering we're named as the "wise" ape, we could at least live up to it a little bit"
We have the whole galaxy to expand into.The universe is full of all the resources we need.  |
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"The population is due to reach 9.7 billion by 2050.The population is growing rapidly.Although many of those new billions will be in Africa and non western countries.
Well if we keep feeding and watering populations that refuse to use contraception and live in parts of the world that can't support their numbers then the population will explode. Of course their is a simple answer to this problem. Stop feeding them.
Yes, there will be deaths due to famine and drought, but the population will stabilise and maybe even start falling, there will also be a drop in demand on world resources and a lowering in human CO and CO2 emissions due to less need to burn trees and fossil fuels for heat and cooking in underdeveloped parts of the world.
Now I know many are going to be outraged that I would even suggest this, but at some point this is what the human race will have to do if we do not want to go the way of the dinosaurs and the longer we leave it until we act the more painful it will be for the human race.
I'm sorry but this is all incorrect.
One thing which always drives population growth is crisis. In the developing world children generally care for their parents in their old age. So, if mortality rates are higher then people have more kids as "insurance".
One thing which always lowers population is female literacy and education.
Leaving people to disaster just leads to more disaster..
Your quite correct, however it's a catch 22 situation, educating women and giving them a career certainty does lower the birth rate substantially.... However turning 2.2 billon third world women into first world women won't cure this problem as proven by western standards all that happens is you use five times more resources than when you had no job and ten children!.
When we as a species got on the treadmill of life it was inevitable that it would end, all births are a sexual disease that upto now is fatal in every case.
Our fate as a species was always death just as in life.... The sad bit is really not our own demise but the fact that as an intelligent species we'll probably take 90% of everything else with us and leave a planet uninhabitable for life for another 50 million years"
Agree. A planet littered with microplastic too. It's appalling the litter in the oceans. And were supposed to be intelligent |
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"By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem.....Read the other day that the house that Al Gore lives in.. Uses the electricity equivalent of thirty average houses.?... Preaching from hypocrites will never save the planet.
Some bloke lives in a big house? Climate change must be a lie! ...Has there ever been a time in human history when there hasn't been climate change.....and what is the ideal temperature."
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Long story short.
Yes, nearly all of human (sapiens) existence has been of a tiny tiny fraction of change (about 1 degree).. So the ideal temperature is the one we've had for the last 11,000 years which is practically no change whatsoever.
The temperature on earth has gone up and down quite a bit over the last 500 million years from climate change and in the last five big ones caused mass extinctions, the last one the great die off wiped out about 96% of life leaving stuff like cockroaches, deep ocean life, bacteria, algae etc etc.
The natural carbon cycle of earth is part of nature and nature decided to lock most of that carbon up deep deep deep underground as oil and gas and coal, don't get me wrong they would all resurface eventually over millions of years anyhow due to earth's tectonic plate movement, were just speeding that along to a space of what 200 years by digging them up and burning them, it's a perfectly natural cycle that's happened over and over before and will again whether we're here or not, of course it wouldn't have happened at this rate of change without us |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem.....Read the other day that the house that Al Gore lives in.. Uses the electricity equivalent of thirty average houses.?... Preaching from hypocrites will never save the planet.
Some bloke lives in a big house? Climate change must be a lie! ...Has there ever been a time in human history when there hasn't been climate change.....and what is the ideal temperature..
Long story short.
Yes, nearly all of human (sapiens) existence has been of a tiny tiny fraction of change (about 1 degree).. So the ideal temperature is the one we've had for the last 11,000 years which is practically no change whatsoever.
The temperature on earth has gone up and down quite a bit over the last 500 million years from climate change and in the last five big ones caused mass extinctions, the last one the great die off wiped out about 96% of life leaving stuff like cockroaches, deep ocean life, bacteria, algae etc etc.
The natural carbon cycle of earth is part of nature and nature decided to lock most of that carbon up deep deep deep underground as oil and gas and coal, don't get me wrong they would all resurface eventually over millions of years anyhow due to earth's tectonic plate movement, were just speeding that along to a space of what 200 years by digging them up and burning them, it's a perfectly natural cycle that's happened over and over before and will again whether we're here or not, of course it wouldn't have happened at this rate of change without us"
The greatest contribution to climate change isn't fossil fuels its human agriculture.Farming cattle in particular. |
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"By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem.....Read the other day that the house that Al Gore lives in.. Uses the electricity equivalent of thirty average houses.?... Preaching from hypocrites will never save the planet.
Some bloke lives in a big house? Climate change must be a lie! ...Has there ever been a time in human history when there hasn't been climate change.....and what is the ideal temperature..
Long story short.
Yes, nearly all of human (sapiens) existence has been of a tiny tiny fraction of change (about 1 degree).. So the ideal temperature is the one we've had for the last 11,000 years which is practically no change whatsoever.
The temperature on earth has gone up and down quite a bit over the last 500 million years from climate change and in the last five big ones caused mass extinctions, the last one the great die off wiped out about 96% of life leaving stuff like cockroaches, deep ocean life, bacteria, algae etc etc.
The natural carbon cycle of earth is part of nature and nature decided to lock most of that carbon up deep deep deep underground as oil and gas and coal, don't get me wrong they would all resurface eventually over millions of years anyhow due to earth's tectonic plate movement, were just speeding that along to a space of what 200 years by digging them up and burning them, it's a perfectly natural cycle that's happened over and over before and will again whether we're here or not, of course it wouldn't have happened at this rate of change without us The greatest contribution to climate change isn't fossil fuels its human agriculture.Farming cattle in particular."
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That's correct roughly 25% of c02 output is from farming, the simple act of ploughing a field leeches carbon from the soil, plus you can add on the methane created from the farming... Human induced climate change was going on long before fossil fuels, you chop down a forest and plough it for crops or animals and were changing the climate.... The scale of change of course has come since the industrial Revolution with cheap coal and from that a rapidly growing population |
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"By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem.....Read the other day that the house that Al Gore lives in.. Uses the electricity equivalent of thirty average houses.?... Preaching from hypocrites will never save the planet.
Some bloke lives in a big house? Climate change must be a lie! ...Has there ever been a time in human history when there hasn't been climate change.....and what is the ideal temperature..
Long story short.
Yes, nearly all of human (sapiens) existence has been of a tiny tiny fraction of change (about 1 degree).. So the ideal temperature is the one we've had for the last 11,000 years which is practically no change whatsoever.
The temperature on earth has gone up and down quite a bit over the last 500 million years from climate change and in the last five big ones caused mass extinctions, the last one the great die off wiped out about 96% of life leaving stuff like cockroaches, deep ocean life, bacteria, algae etc etc.
The natural carbon cycle of earth is part of nature and nature decided to lock most of that carbon up deep deep deep underground as oil and gas and coal, don't get me wrong they would all resurface eventually over millions of years anyhow due to earth's tectonic plate movement, were just speeding that along to a space of what 200 years by digging them up and burning them, it's a perfectly natural cycle that's happened over and over before and will again whether we're here or not, of course it wouldn't have happened at this rate of change without us The greatest contribution to climate change isn't fossil fuels its human agriculture.Farming cattle in particular..
That's correct roughly 25% of c02 output is from farming, the simple act of ploughing a field leeches carbon from the soil, plus you can add on the methane created from the farming... Human induced climate change was going on long before fossil fuels, you chop down a forest and plough it for crops or animals and were changing the climate.... The scale of change of course has come since the industrial Revolution with cheap coal and from that a rapidly growing population"
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"By August 2, 2017, we will have used more from nature than our planet can renew in the whole year.
We use more ecological resources and services than nature can regenerate through overfishing, overharvesting forests, and emitting more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than forests can sequester.
The Earth Overshoot Day measure has been calculated since 1986 and the day has never fallen so early as in 2017.
Is there anyway to reverse this trend.?
Or will we except that future generations will live in the ashes of our ecosystem.....Read the other day that the house that Al Gore lives in.. Uses the electricity equivalent of thirty average houses.?... Preaching from hypocrites will never save the planet.
Some bloke lives in a big house? Climate change must be a lie! ...Has there ever been a time in human history when there hasn't been climate change.....and what is the ideal temperature..
Long story short.
Yes, nearly all of human (sapiens) existence has been of a tiny tiny fraction of change (about 1 degree).. So the ideal temperature is the one we've had for the last 11,000 years which is practically no change whatsoever.
The temperature on earth has gone up and down quite a bit over the last 500 million years from climate change and in the last five big ones caused mass extinctions, the last one the great die off wiped out about 96% of life leaving stuff like cockroaches, deep ocean life, bacteria, algae etc etc.
The natural carbon cycle of earth is part of nature and nature decided to lock most of that carbon up deep deep deep underground as oil and gas and coal, don't get me wrong they would all resurface eventually over millions of years anyhow due to earth's tectonic plate movement, were just speeding that along to a space of what 200 years by digging them up and burning them, it's a perfectly natural cycle that's happened over and over before and will again whether we're here or not, of course it wouldn't have happened at this rate of change without us The greatest contribution to climate change isn't fossil fuels its human agriculture.Farming cattle in particular..
That's correct roughly 25% of c02 output is from farming, the simple act of ploughing a field leeches carbon from the soil, plus you can add on the methane created from the farming... Human induced climate change was going on long before fossil fuels, you chop down a forest and plough it for crops or animals and were changing the climate.... The scale of change of course has come since the industrial Revolution with cheap coal and from that a rapidly growing population
Worldwatch Institute, a Washington D.C. environmental think-tank, reported that livestock emissions actually account for 51% of greenhouse gases."
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It wouldn't surprise me when you tally up the fossil fuel usage in rearing, transporting, feeding, slaughtering, cooking, packing, processing...I mean it's a humans main source of protein with fish from the oceans being second and I've already pointed out on here several times that the oceans are on the point of collapse from over fishing and pollution.
Throw in the factor of large scale clathrate release in the artic tundra regions and bingo.
15 years and it's no more worrying about whether black women in Africa have it bad, were all gonna be equalised by nature  |
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