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"Do you think immigration will rise, fall or stay the same after we leave the EU? " Do you think it will be cloudy, sunny or rainy tomorrow? | |||
"Do you think immigration will rise, fall or stay the same after we leave the EU? Do you think it will be cloudy, sunny or rainy tomorrow?"  | |||
"Do you think immigration will rise, fall or stay the same after we leave the EU? " Might take a hit initially but having freedom of movement is easier for the gov in my opinion so they may well do the next best thing and just rubber stamp every visa application "approved" | |||
"Do you think immigration will rise, fall or stay the same after we leave the EU? Do you think it will be cloudy, sunny or rainy tomorrow?" Proof again that the Brexit mindset is as shallow as an mid summer puddle on the pavement. | |||
"Do you think immigration will rise, fall or stay the same after we leave the EU? " It will of course increase unless the country is wanting to go into economic decline. If Brexit is to be the raging success that Brexiters claim where are the workers going to come from who will fuel this surge in the economy? | |||
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"Do you think immigration will rise, fall or stay the same after we leave the EU? Do you think it will be cloudy, sunny or rainy tomorrow? Proof again that the Brexit mindset is as shallow as an mid summer puddle on the pavement." Proof again that the mindset of some remainers is stuck and unthinking. Do you know which way I voted? The opening post was a stupid question. Immigration will continually change like the weather and nobody can predict it years ahead but what will happen hopefully is that it is controlled to suit the countrys needs, while making it more difficult for companies to simply hire from abroad and keep wages low with a take it or leave it attitude towards staff | |||
"Do you think immigration will rise, fall or stay the same after we leave the EU? Do you think it will be cloudy, sunny or rainy tomorrow? Proof again that the Brexit mindset is as shallow as an mid summer puddle on the pavement. Proof again that the mindset of some remainers is stuck and unthinking. Do you know which way I voted? The opening post was a stupid question. Immigration will continually change like the weather and nobody can predict it years ahead but what will happen hopefully is that it is controlled to suit the countrys needs, while making it more difficult for companies to simply hire from abroad and keep wages low with a take it or leave it attitude towards staff" If you don't like the topic, then keep on moving, you don't have to post. It's not a stupid question, no one can control the weather, but immigration can be controlled. For example do you believe that the government will stick to their immigration promise of limiting immigration to less than 100,000 per year? | |||
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"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. " We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated?" The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit." So you think immigration will increase then? | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? " As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? " No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? " I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve?" It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.  | |||
"It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition. "So there we have it, no transitional deal. 606 days and counting... | |||
"It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So there we have it, no transitional deal. 606 days and counting... "He's a clever lad that centaur always nos the answers gets them from the media what a bunch of twats they are normally wrong | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition. "So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same? | |||
"It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So there we have it, no transitional deal. 606 days and counting... "Why do you assume that? It's perfectly achievable to have a transitional arrangement with the EU in which free movement of people doesn't apply. | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same? "Down and if you look at the current figures the trend down has already started. | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same? "I have only been following this forum for a week but it is pretty obvious you are not the sharpest tool in the box, know little about anything and simply post to try and wind people up. Strange. Maybe you need to get a hobby, or a job. It has been said already by people on this thread that immigration will rise and fall as circumstances change and yes immigration can be controlled unlike the weather but that does not mean that you cannot change those controls as and when required, so considering we are leaving the EU for good, immigration is bound to rise, fall and 'stay the same' at points in the future. So basically yes, the question is stupid | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition. "Freedom of movement to EU nationals is ONLY up to 3 MONTHS. Over 3 months they have to be working and paying the host state taxes. If they are not working then they have to have sufficient income to support themselves and also have private comprehensive medical cover. This is documented in European Parliament and Council Directive 2004/38/EC. The fact that the UK didn't or hasn't implemented this is bizarre. If people don't meet the criteria then we can freely repatriate them - surely this is "control"? When I registered here in France I had to show this - but then that's being legal not everyone are! | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same?
I have only been following this forum for a week but it is pretty obvious you are not the sharpest tool in the box, know little about anything and simply post to try and wind people up. Strange. Maybe you need to get a hobby, or a job. It has been said already by people on this thread that immigration will rise and fall as circumstances change and yes immigration can be controlled unlike the weather but that does not mean that you cannot change those controls as and when required, so considering we are leaving the EU for good, immigration is bound to rise, fall and 'stay the same' at points in the future. So basically yes, the question is stupid" that's funny, I don't recall any of the Leave campaigns saying that immigration naturally rises or falls. Is that what it said on that poster Nigel Farage stood in front of? Does it say that in the conservative manifesto? | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same?
I have only been following this forum for a week but it is pretty obvious you are not the sharpest tool in the box, know little about anything and simply post to try and wind people up. Strange. Maybe you need to get a hobby, or a job. It has been said already by people on this thread that immigration will rise and fall as circumstances change and yes immigration can be controlled unlike the weather but that does not mean that you cannot change those controls as and when required, so considering we are leaving the EU for good, immigration is bound to rise, fall and 'stay the same' at points in the future. So basically yes, the question is stupid
that's funny, I don't recall any of the Leave campaigns saying that immigration naturally rises or falls. Is that what it said on that poster Nigel Farage stood in front of? Does it say that in the conservative manifesto? "What is your point? | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same?
I have only been following this forum for a week but it is pretty obvious you are not the sharpest tool in the box, know little about anything and simply post to try and wind people up. Strange. Maybe you need to get a hobby, or a job. It has been said already by people on this thread that immigration will rise and fall as circumstances change and yes immigration can be controlled unlike the weather but that does not mean that you cannot change those controls as and when required, so considering we are leaving the EU for good, immigration is bound to rise, fall and 'stay the same' at points in the future. So basically yes, the question is stupid
that's funny, I don't recall any of the Leave campaigns saying that immigration naturally rises or falls. Is that what it said on that poster Nigel Farage stood in front of? Does it say that in the conservative manifesto?
What is your point?"Like most of CLCC's posts on here you will find there is no point to them. | |||
"So there we have it, no transitional deal. 606 days and counting... Why do you assume that? It's perfectly achievable to have a transitional arrangement with the EU in which free movement of people doesn't apply. " OMG! Are you really that obtuse? It is now 16 months since the out camp polled the most votes in the referendum and 4 months since May triggered Article 50. In that time can you name one issue where the EU have changed their position and caved in to UK demands? During the same period can you name one time when this 'strong and stable' tory government has not caved in on an issue? Now I am totally willing to accept that no free movement is a red line to the tories and that they will hold firm on this rather than doing another one of their now regular U turns, but I am also realistic enough to realise that the EU will not change their position on what they have said from day one is their red line too. Let me remind you what that is... No free access to the single market without free movement of people. Now as these two positions are mutually incompatible regardless of how much you and the tories may want it there can be no interim deal without one or other side reversing their position. Do you really believe the EU or the authoritarian May is going to climb down on this issue? I don't. | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same?
I have only been following this forum for a week but it is pretty obvious you are not the sharpest tool in the box, know little about anything and simply post to try and wind people up. Strange. Maybe you need to get a hobby, or a job. It has been said already by people on this thread that immigration will rise and fall as circumstances change and yes immigration can be controlled unlike the weather but that does not mean that you cannot change those controls as and when required, so considering we are leaving the EU for good, immigration is bound to rise, fall and 'stay the same' at points in the future. So basically yes, the question is stupid
that's funny, I don't recall any of the Leave campaigns saying that immigration naturally rises or falls. Is that what it said on that poster Nigel Farage stood in front of? Does it say that in the conservative manifesto?
What is your point?"Immigration was a major factor in the referendum, I think a lot of people in this country care what happens to it. | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same?
I have only been following this forum for a week but it is pretty obvious you are not the sharpest tool in the box, know little about anything and simply post to try and wind people up. Strange. Maybe you need to get a hobby, or a job. It has been said already by people on this thread that immigration will rise and fall as circumstances change and yes immigration can be controlled unlike the weather but that does not mean that you cannot change those controls as and when required, so considering we are leaving the EU for good, immigration is bound to rise, fall and 'stay the same' at points in the future. So basically yes, the question is stupid
that's funny, I don't recall any of the Leave campaigns saying that immigration naturally rises or falls. Is that what it said on that poster Nigel Farage stood in front of? Does it say that in the conservative manifesto?
What is your point?
Immigration was a major factor in the referendum, I think a lot of people in this country care what happens to it. "I'm sure they do but what does that have to do with your question? | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same?
I have only been following this forum for a week but it is pretty obvious you are not the sharpest tool in the box, know little about anything and simply post to try and wind people up. Strange. Maybe you need to get a hobby, or a job. It has been said already by people on this thread that immigration will rise and fall as circumstances change and yes immigration can be controlled unlike the weather but that does not mean that you cannot change those controls as and when required, so considering we are leaving the EU for good, immigration is bound to rise, fall and 'stay the same' at points in the future. So basically yes, the question is stupid
that's funny, I don't recall any of the Leave campaigns saying that immigration naturally rises or falls. Is that what it said on that poster Nigel Farage stood in front of? Does it say that in the conservative manifesto?
What is your point?
Immigration was a major factor in the referendum, I think a lot of people in this country care what happens to it.
I'm sure they do but what does that have to do with your question?"I'm asking will they be pissed off, pissed off, or happy. | |||
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"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels" You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. " Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? " How do you grow public spending? On a tree? | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? How do you grow public spending? On a tree?" It means spend more. | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? How do you grow public spending? On a tree? It means spend more. "From where? | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? How do you grow public spending? On a tree? It means spend more.
From where?"Are you even reading the posts? "You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in." | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? How do you grow public spending? On a tree?" Jeremy Corbyn seems to think so.  | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? How do you grow public spending? On a tree? Jeremy Corbyn seems to think so. "You don't seem to care how many times it's pointed out that the Labour manifesto was fully costed, and the Tory one wasn't do you? | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? How do you grow public spending? On a tree? Jeremy Corbyn seems to think so.
You don't seem to care how many times it's pointed out that the Labour manifesto was fully costed, and the Tory one wasn't do you? "Was it bollocks | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? How do you grow public spending? On a tree? Jeremy Corbyn seems to think so.
You don't seem to care how many times it's pointed out that the Labour manifesto was fully costed, and the Tory one wasn't do you? "So where did they say they would get the money from to 'grow' public spending? From the extra tax revenue raised from immigration? Err no, because there isn't any is there? | |||
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"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit." We will be different in that an automatic, uncontrolled right will end. But as has already been stated....predicting absolute numbers is pointless. | |||
"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? How do you grow public spending? On a tree? Jeremy Corbyn seems to think so.
You don't seem to care how many times it's pointed out that the Labour manifesto was fully costed, and the Tory one wasn't do you?
Was it bollocks"
Since the election theirpie in the sky scrapping fees, rebating those who had paid, giving students free laptops and all the other bollocks was "costed" on the back of a beer mat! | |||
"Wow, some people really seem to be struggling with this. Ok, let me break it down. One poster said "You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in." Going with the premise they had stated (immigrants increase tax revenue), I asked if they had voted for a party that would spend that extra income on public services or not. If they voted for a party that would spend more, fair enough, however if the poster voted for a party that would reduce spending on public services, then its hardly surprising that they didn't spend the extra income on public services. Get it? " The only person struggling on here is you with the concept of sarcasm | |||
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"Do you think immigration will rise, fall or stay the same after we leave the EU? " Answer is - short term (2 or 3 years) you will see net decline, but as UK negotiate trade deals the will have to barter access for key countries, the USA, India and Argentina for example, this will see a substantial uptick in immigration, so your swapping one Polish builder for 5 builders from around the world, as an example - no judgment on wether that is good or bad but this is just the reality | |||
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"It depends when as there will have to be a long transitional arrangement and this will mean it will not fall to the conservative failed promised levels for years. The key problem was that this government did not invest in the infrastructure for our needs. People were angry because schools, hospitals, homes etc were not built to meet the needs of the larger population levels You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in. Did you vote for a political party that said it would grow public spending in these areas, or for a party that said it would reduce spending in these areas? How do you grow public spending? On a tree? Jeremy Corbyn seems to think so.
You don't seem to care how many times it's pointed out that the Labour manifesto was fully costed, and the Tory one wasn't do you? "
Some just regurgitate post and repeat ad nauseam, with an ideological mantra the likes of ukip brewed in the sewers | |||
"The UK is massively misinformed on the EU. When asked about EU immigration as a % of the population. On average people thought it was 15% of our population (Leave voters thought it was 20%), but it is actually 5%. Even Remain voters have been influenced by the drip drip of misinformation of the Right wing media, clearly. We massively overestimate the proportion of Child Benefit awards given to families in other European countries. The actual proportion of UK Child Benefit awards going on children living abroad in Europe is 0.3%, but 14% of us think that 30% of UK Child Benefit goes to children abroad and 23% of us think 13% does. This means that nearly 4 in 10 of us (no doubt thick bastards who voted Leave) think the number of children in EU countries receiving Child Benefit from the UK is 40 to 100 times the actual level. We massively overestimate how much of the EU’s budget is spent on administration. The average guess is that 27% of the overall budget is spent on staff, admin and maintenance costs, when in reality it’s 6%. If this estimate were accurate the EU would be spending €38.5bn on admin each year, instead of €8.5bn. The majority of us (67%) correctly say the UK annually pays more into the EU’s budget than it gets back - but we overestimate how much we pay compared with other countries. 84% of us put Britain in the top 3 contributors to the EU’s c.€140bn annual budget (the same proportion that picks Germany as a top contributor) and nearly a quarter of us (23%) think the UK is the single top contributor to the EU. In reality, Germany paid in twice as much as us in 2014 (21% of total EU income), followed by France (16%) then Italy (12%), with the UK in fourth place (11%) We massively overestimate how much of the EU’s budget is spent on administration. The average guess is that 27% of the overall budget is spent on staff, admin and maintenance costs, when in reality it’s 6%8. If this estimate were accurate the EU would be spending €38.5bn on admin each year, instead of €8.5bn. we underestimate how much investment into the UK comes from EU countries. The average guess is that they contribute 30% of total investment into the UK, when it actually makes up almost half (48%). This perception gap is mirrored by an overestimation of investment from China, which people think makes up 19% of inward investment but actually only accounts for 1%." Nevermind eh | |||
"They are already leaving." Stay as long as possible Shag | |||
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"Unfortunately facts no longer matter in the post-truth world we now inhabit." Motivated reasoning does seem to be more prevalent than ever. We are of course, every single on of us, guilty of that. This is particularly true when it comes to politics. There are academic studies to show this. None of us can be too holier than thou about this. That said, the studies also show that those on the political Right are considerably more susceptible to motivated reasoning. This accounts for the poor quality and misinformation of media outlets such as the mail, the express, Fox News and breitbart. It also accounts for why the Leave campaign was so successful. By muddying the waters, making it difficult for people to know just what was the truth (it was largely about predictions anyway) they gambled on people going on gut instinct and emotion rather than reason. The many years of peddling bullshit about the EU by the press, allowed to go unchallenged by our politicians lest the finger was pointed at them (rightly), then paid dividends. However to say facts don't matter isn't accurate is it? That people do ignore them is true, but the facts will matter when the decisions made ignoring them begin to have consequences as the are bound to have. Then, it is my hope, that attention paid to experts, facts and the scientific method of reasoning may come back with a vengeance stronger than ever. The young seem to have a greater appreciation of this, perhaps because of more of them staying in higher education than previous generations. | |||
"Wow, some people really seem to be struggling with this. Ok, let me break it down. One poster said "You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in." Going with the premise they had stated (immigrants increase tax revenue), I asked if they had voted for a party that would spend that extra income on public services or not. If they voted for a party that would spend more, fair enough, however if the poster voted for a party that would reduce spending on public services, then its hardly surprising that they didn't spend the extra income on public services. Get it? " Are you so obtuse you can't understand sarcasm? | |||
"Wow, some people really seem to be struggling with this. Ok, let me break it down. One poster said "You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in." Going with the premise they had stated (immigrants increase tax revenue), I asked if they had voted for a party that would spend that extra income on public services or not. If they voted for a party that would spend more, fair enough, however if the poster voted for a party that would reduce spending on public services, then its hardly surprising that they didn't spend the extra income on public services. Get it? Are you so obtuse you can't understand sarcasm?" So basically you are saying you voted for a party that said they would cut public spending, they cut public spending, now you are complaining they cut public spending. Is that about right? | |||
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"Wow, some people really seem to be struggling with this. Ok, let me break it down. One poster said "You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in." Going with the premise they had stated (immigrants increase tax revenue), I asked if they had voted for a party that would spend that extra income on public services or not. If they voted for a party that would spend more, fair enough, however if the poster voted for a party that would reduce spending on public services, then its hardly surprising that they didn't spend the extra income on public services. Get it? Are you so obtuse you can't understand sarcasm? So basically you are saying you voted for a party that said they would cut public spending, they cut public spending, now you are complaining they cut public spending. Is that about right? " I haven't said who I voted for at all. | |||
"Wow, some people really seem to be struggling with this. Ok, let me break it down. One poster said "You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in." Going with the premise they had stated (immigrants increase tax revenue), I asked if they had voted for a party that would spend that extra income on public services or not. If they voted for a party that would spend more, fair enough, however if the poster voted for a party that would reduce spending on public services, then its hardly surprising that they didn't spend the extra income on public services. Get it? Are you so obtuse you can't understand sarcasm? So basically you are saying you voted for a party that said they would cut public spending, they cut public spending, now you are complaining they cut public spending. Is that about right? I haven't said who I voted for at all." Well did you vote for a party that would tax more and spend more, or for a party that would tax less and spend less? | |||
"Do you think immigration will rise, fall or stay the same after we leave the EU? " . Fall | |||
"Wow, some people really seem to be struggling with this. Ok, let me break it down. One poster said "You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in." Going with the premise they had stated (immigrants increase tax revenue), I asked if they had voted for a party that would spend that extra income on public services or not. If they voted for a party that would spend more, fair enough, however if the poster voted for a party that would reduce spending on public services, then its hardly surprising that they didn't spend the extra income on public services. Get it? Are you so obtuse you can't understand sarcasm? So basically you are saying you voted for a party that said they would cut public spending, they cut public spending, now you are complaining they cut public spending. Is that about right? I haven't said who I voted for at all. Well did you vote for a party that would tax more and spend more, or for a party that would tax less and spend less? " Who did you vote for? | |||
"Wow, some people really seem to be struggling with this. Ok, let me break it down. One poster said "You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in." Going with the premise they had stated (immigrants increase tax revenue), I asked if they had voted for a party that would spend that extra income on public services or not. If they voted for a party that would spend more, fair enough, however if the poster voted for a party that would reduce spending on public services, then its hardly surprising that they didn't spend the extra income on public services. Get it? Are you so obtuse you can't understand sarcasm? So basically you are saying you voted for a party that said they would cut public spending, they cut public spending, now you are complaining they cut public spending. Is that about right? I haven't said who I voted for at all. Well did you vote for a party that would tax more and spend more, or for a party that would tax less and spend less? Who did you vote for?" I voted for a party with more taxation and more public spending. | |||
"Wow, some people really seem to be struggling with this. Ok, let me break it down. One poster said "You'd have thought they'd have been able to with the net benefit and all the extra taxes coming in." Going with the premise they had stated (immigrants increase tax revenue), I asked if they had voted for a party that would spend that extra income on public services or not. If they voted for a party that would spend more, fair enough, however if the poster voted for a party that would reduce spending on public services, then its hardly surprising that they didn't spend the extra income on public services. Get it? Are you so obtuse you can't understand sarcasm? So basically you are saying you voted for a party that said they would cut public spending, they cut public spending, now you are complaining they cut public spending. Is that about right? I haven't said who I voted for at all. Well did you vote for a party that would tax more and spend more, or for a party that would tax less and spend less? Who did you vote for? I voted for a party with more taxation and more public spending. " Even with Nuttall in charge? Blimey | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same?
I have only been following this forum for a week but it is pretty obvious you are not the sharpest tool in the box, know little about anything and simply post to try and wind people up. Strange. Maybe you need to get a hobby, or a job. It has been said already by people on this thread that immigration will rise and fall as circumstances change and yes immigration can be controlled unlike the weather but that does not mean that you cannot change those controls as and when required, so considering we are leaving the EU for good, immigration is bound to rise, fall and 'stay the same' at points in the future. So basically yes, the question is stupid
that's funny, I don't recall any of the Leave campaigns saying that immigration naturally rises or falls. Is that what it said on that poster Nigel Farage stood in front of? Does it say that in the conservative manifesto? "Farage said Australian style system and poster pointed out none skilled ME eco migrants heading to our already heavy in debt system, as high tax payer i want the system fixing, not killing. 1 day maybe you will be earning and paying higher tax, that day you might start to think about how its spent, rather than how you can improve the world with it well homeless people numbers grow, school places shrink, NHS staff quit or stop applying due to long hrs and shit pay, houses prices list goes on, but lets invite more and some how we can support it all and keep or own standards because we can always tax them who earn more its so simple as you not be the 1 paying for it. not all immigration is good. and what are all these people going to do for work when vehicles become Autonomous, 3D printers start to replace welders and fabricators and any other manufacturing jobs again list goes on and this is lot closer than most think and going to be such a huge challenge to over come as millions have no work for rest of there lives and tech keeps improving at forever faster growing pace with help from AI very soon but you only think about Brexit, its over, UK is leaving and immigration will be up and down as the country needs it, you must honestly have no faith in this country and peoples choice to vote. | |||
"It could do any of the three options. Immigration isn't a problem, as long as it's the right sort of immigration. If the UK post Brexit flourishes, then we will need more motivated and welcome migrant workers, and we can draw on those globally. We can already draw globally, what difference will Brexit make? What makes you say that current immigrants aren't motivated? The statement was "more motivated" as in quantity, not quality. Have yet to meet a migrant, certainly in these parts, that isn't motivated. I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is? All countries need migration, the level is determined by the needs and policies of that country. We are no different, Brexit or no Brexit. So you think immigration will increase then? As I said, it may well do. The UK's requirements for workers is as fluid as any other country. It may well go down as well. I don't have a crystal ball, do you? No, but its not an act of God is it? It's subject to government control. Many people said that immigration was important to them during the referendum, so I think it's pretty important to ask the question if people think its going to increase, decrease or stay the same. Also we have a government committed to reducing immigration to less than 100,000. Do you think they are lying about it? I think the figure is a "net migration" figure. Maybe post Brexit, people will want to move out of the UK. Maybe it was important to people during the referendum, maybe less so now. But was it actually the concept of immigration, the quality of immigration or the control of immigration that they were concerned about? A 100000 figure is fine. Maybe it's a target or an ambition but why shy away from it because it looks difficult to achieve? It's on the news today a spokesperson for Prime minister Theresa May has said that free movement from the EU into the UK will end in March 2019. This is the end of the article 50 period. So if any transitional deal is struck after that free movement of people won't apply to the transition.
So do you think immigration will up, down, or stay the same?
I have only been following this forum for a week but it is pretty obvious you are not the sharpest tool in the box, know little about anything and simply post to try and wind people up. Strange. Maybe you need to get a hobby, or a job. It has been said already by people on this thread that immigration will rise and fall as circumstances change and yes immigration can be controlled unlike the weather but that does not mean that you cannot change those controls as and when required, so considering we are leaving the EU for good, immigration is bound to rise, fall and 'stay the same' at points in the future. So basically yes, the question is stupid
that's funny, I don't recall any of the Leave campaigns saying that immigration naturally rises or falls. Is that what it said on that poster Nigel Farage stood in front of? Does it say that in the conservative manifesto?
Farage said Australian style system and poster pointed out none skilled ME eco migrants heading to our already heavy in debt system, as high tax payer i want the system fixing, not killing. 1 day maybe you will be earning and paying higher tax, that day you might start to think about how its spent, rather than how you can improve the world with it well homeless people numbers grow, school places shrink, NHS staff quit or stop applying due to long hrs and shit pay, houses prices list goes on, but lets invite more and some how we can support it all and keep or own standards because we can always tax them who earn more its so simple as you not be the 1 paying for it. not all immigration is good. and what are all these people going to do for work when vehicles become Autonomous, 3D printers start to replace welders and fabricators and any other manufacturing jobs again list goes on and this is lot closer than most think and going to be such a huge challenge to over come as millions have no work for rest of there lives and tech keeps improving at forever faster growing pace with help from AI very soon
but you only think about Brexit, its over, UK is leaving and immigration will be up and down as the country needs it, you must honestly have no faith in this country and peoples choice to vote. "Your argument appears to be predicated upon the idea that the only people who want higher taxes and improved public services are those who pay little tax, and that those paying tax at higher rates automatically want a lower tax, lower spend nation. That is utter and complete bollocks Im afraid. | |||
