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The infamous uk-us trade deal... food standards
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
At the moment the eu bans the import of certain foods from the us...
For example, the chlorine chicken row at the moment...
Other examples would be a lot of us beef and pork based on farmers giving their animals hgh to improve size
Also genetically modified foods from the us are banned as well
Also food standards with regard to animal welfare are higher in the eu than the us...
So the question is this.... would you be willing to sacrifice any of the eu safeguards in order to get a us trade deal done |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
"At the moment the eu bans the import of certain foods from the us...
For example, the chlorine chicken row at the moment...
Other examples would be a lot of us beef and pork based on farmers giving their animals hgh to improve size
Also genetically modified foods from the us are banned as well
Also food standards with regard to animal welfare are higher in the eu than the us...
So the question is this.... would you be willing to sacrifice any of the eu safeguards in order to get a us trade deal done "
I wouldn't buy any mass produced meat from the US. Most people interviewed on the lunchtime news, put quality and animal welfare ahead of price and availability.
I buy as much British as possible, the danger being in what will get into restaurant and food outlet kitchens. |
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I don't really get the accepted notion that food is cheap in the US. Last summer we spent a couple of weeks in Florida and shopped in Walmart - everything seemed expensive cf to the UK even with the fall in the pound-dollar exchange rate. The quality also seemed really poor to us - food tasted extremely bland and even fruit and veg. didn't have much flavour. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"I don't really get the accepted notion that food is cheap in the US. Last summer we spent a couple of weeks in Florida and shopped in Walmart - everything seemed expensive cf to the UK even with the fall in the pound-dollar exchange rate. The quality also seemed really poor to us - food tasted extremely bland and even fruit and veg. didn't have much flavour."
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Don't even mention the avocados  |
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Well the last 'special' deal done by the tories with a yank administration saw our clean blood and blood products going to the USA in return for contaminated US blood products. Of course this lot have already done a blood deal with the chinese so I guess they are left with giving the yanks what is left of the NHS in return for contaminated food.
Welcome to our post brexit 'Brave New World' of nurses depending on charity to eat and soon to arriving will be the 68 year old police and fire officers. |
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"Nurses depending on charity to eat wot a load of shite wtf next "
So what do you call foodbanks then?
Or are you one of those who deny that some nurses are now having to rely on foodbanks to feed their families? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nurses depending on charity to eat wot a load of shite wtf next
So what do you call foodbanks then?
Or are you one of those who deny that some nurses are now having to rely on foodbanks to feed their families?"
Aye shes a denier  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Nurses depending on charity to eat wot a load of shite wtf next "
Please read and listen
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/theresa-may-refuses-to-accept-government-responsible-for-nurses-using-food-banks_uk_5905bfd2e4b02655f83e217d |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"If nurses can't afford to eat and need food banks how the hell are the tthousands of careers shop workers kichen workers ppl on minimum wage eating then must be a bloody big quew there stood in "
Using food banks as well |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So there's millions then using them you would think nurses were on min wage in the uk if you believed what you red on here "
A few is too many in a civilised society |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?"
My answer Fabio is no.....but im sure theres a few that will say it is just so they can say theres the trade deal that was promised |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"So a few nurses is to many but yr ok with the other thousands useing them then why outrage on here for only nurses teachers and police is that all we AV in the uk "
I said a few is too many using them full stop not just nurses |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?"
..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I think most English would swap percieved cheapness for quality any day of the week. When the 'mad cow disease' was at its height and the local supermarkets reduced the price of beef it was still bought. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At the moment the eu bans the import of certain foods from the us...
For example, the chlorine chicken row at the moment...
Other examples would be a lot of us beef and pork based on farmers giving their animals hgh to improve size
Also genetically modified foods from the us are banned as well
Also food standards with regard to animal welfare are higher in the eu than the us...
So the question is this.... would you be willing to sacrifice any of the eu safeguards in order to get a us trade deal done "
Well it seems it's Brexit at any price so I don't see it being much different to post brexit trade deals either. |
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?"
Yes bring it on all day long. The European food standards agency says that chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe to eat so it makes no sense at all for the EU to ban it. The real reason the EU has banned USA chicken is because the EU is a protection racket that puts up barriers to trade and it doesn't like competition, the USA chicken is cheaper so people would be more inclined to buy it rather than EU chicken. The USA chicken is said to be more safe than EU chicken to consume because when it's washed in Chlorine it kills any trace of Salmonella. The EU chicken is only washed in clean cold water so it doesn't kill any Salmonella that may still be on the chicken. More risk of Salmonella poisoning from eating EU chicken. First and foremost I'd buy British chicken because I like to support our own British industry but I'd have no problem buying and eating American chicken and saving money in the process because USA chicken is cheaper.
Millions of Americans eat it all the time and it doesn't do them any harm and Brits who have been on holiday in the USA and eaten chicken there have more than likely already consumed some in the past. This story is yet another hysterical scaremongering tactic from remainers who want to put the brakes on Brexit or scupper any future Uk/USA trade deal. |
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing."
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?
Yes bring it on all day long. The European food standards agency says that chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe to eat so it makes no sense at all for the EU to ban it. The real reason the EU has banned USA chicken is because the EU is a protection racket that puts up barriers to trade and it doesn't like competition, the USA chicken is cheaper so people would be more inclined to buy it rather than EU chicken. The USA chicken is said to be more safe than EU chicken to consume because when it's washed in Chlorine it kills any trace of Salmonella. The EU chicken is only washed in clean cold water so it doesn't kill any Salmonella that may still be on the chicken. More risk of Salmonella poisoning from eating EU chicken. First and foremost I'd buy British chicken because I like to support our own British industry but I'd have no problem buying and eating American chicken and saving money in the process because USA chicken is cheaper.
Millions of Americans eat it all the time and it doesn't do them any harm and Brits who have been on holiday in the USA and eaten chicken there have more than likely already consumed some in the past. This story is yet another hysterical scaremongering tactic from remainers who want to put the brakes on Brexit or scupper any future Uk/USA trade deal. "
Lets have the facts as tbh Centaur people have stopped taking notice with you nonsensical nonsense plucked out of thin air |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?.
.How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing."
That's not really answering the question...
We know that a lot of us beef and diary producers pump cattle full of steroids and hgh to make size bigger.. and that is perfectly legal there
But it is not here... so that is why I asked the question would you be prepared to sacrifice certain food standards and animal welfare for the us deal
I think it's an interesting question to ask |
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?
Yes bring it on all day long. The European food standards agency says that chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe to eat so it makes no sense at all for the EU to ban it. The real reason the EU has banned USA chicken is because the EU is a protection racket that puts up barriers to trade and it doesn't like competition, the USA chicken is cheaper so people would be more inclined to buy it rather than EU chicken. The USA chicken is said to be more safe than EU chicken to consume because when it's washed in Chlorine it kills any trace of Salmonella. The EU chicken is only washed in clean cold water so it doesn't kill any Salmonella that may still be on the chicken. More risk of Salmonella poisoning from eating EU chicken. First and foremost I'd buy British chicken because I like to support our own British industry but I'd have no problem buying and eating American chicken and saving money in the process because USA chicken is cheaper.
Millions of Americans eat it all the time and it doesn't do them any harm and Brits who have been on holiday in the USA and eaten chicken there have more than likely already consumed some in the past. This story is yet another hysterical scaremongering tactic from remainers who want to put the brakes on Brexit or scupper any future Uk/USA trade deal.
Lets have the facts as tbh Centaur people have stopped taking notice with you nonsensical nonsense plucked out of thin air "
Those are the facts all easily checked on Google. Most of what I just posted is also reported in today's newspapers. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?"
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Why the heck not, I mean we've done it for the Jews and the Muslims  |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef. "
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?  |
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef.
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards? "
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"I'd AV to say yes I would Fabio "
And that is an absolutely fair answer.....
Like I said I do think it's an interesting question though and as someone else said today that the uk prides itself on food standards and especially animal welfare
So in effect potentially giving those up is a big decision |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef.
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU. "
I'll take that as proof that you cant tell the difference then.
Lamborghini have pretty high, standards, they make a good product. If I take a 1980s Lada, stick a bull logo on it and convince some sucker to buy it claiming its a Lamborghini, does that mean that I have committed fraud, or that Lamborghini has low standards? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I had posted about several times before, but this is actually just the tip of the iceberg, wait till there is the discussion on antibiotic use in non-eu livestock.
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"I'd AV to say yes I would Fabio
And that is an absolutely fair answer.....
Like I said I do think it's an interesting question though and as someone else said today that the uk prides itself on food standards and especially animal welfare
I take yr point but to be honest with you it ain't all that our food standards but it's still hell of a lot better than Americas . We all go abroad and eat the food there and mostly it's fine if I can survive the shit Iv ate in Turkey I'm sure I will be ok with what the USA send over
So in effect potentially giving those up is a big decision "
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef.
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU.
I'll take that as proof that you cant tell the difference then.
Lamborghini have pretty high, standards, they make a good product. If I take a 1980s Lada, stick a bull logo on it and convince some sucker to buy it claiming its a Lamborghini, does that mean that I have committed fraud, or that Lamborghini has low standards? "
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Yeah like Lamborghinis rarely set on fire through manufacturers fault?.
Naw ... The trouble with you is you'll believe any old bollocks providing its fed to you by a neo liberal |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing."
In answer to the OPs question: No.
Horse meat is widely eaten in Europe and is a nice low-fat alternative to beef. It's also cheaper. I spent ages in the queue at a popular butcher in a French market looking at the lean cuts of red meat mulling over how the butcher must like horses as he had portraits of horses dotted about....until my brother informed me it was the 'chevalier'
What is unacceptable though is when manufacturers use cheaper horse meat and pass it off as beef...horse meat from dubious sources. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef.
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU.
I'll take that as proof that you cant tell the difference then.
Lamborghini have pretty high, standards, they make a good product. If I take a 1980s Lada, stick a bull logo on it and convince some sucker to buy it claiming its a Lamborghini, does that mean that I have committed fraud, or that Lamborghini has low standards? .
Yeah like Lamborghinis rarely set on fire through manufacturers fault?.
Naw ... The trouble with you is you'll believe any old bollocks providing its fed to you by a neo liberal"
Wow. That analogy just went way, way over your head, didn't it? |
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef.
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU.
I'll take that as proof that you cant tell the difference then.
Lamborghini have pretty high, standards, they make a good product. If I take a 1980s Lada, stick a bull logo on it and convince some sucker to buy it claiming its a Lamborghini, does that mean that I have committed fraud, or that Lamborghini has low standards? .
Yeah like Lamborghinis rarely set on fire through manufacturers fault?.
Naw ... The trouble with you is you'll believe any old bollocks providing its fed to you by a neo liberal"
 CLCC will believe anything an expert tells them. They probably drive a VW and believed the bollocks that VW came out with about emissions from their vehicles. So much for taking what the experts (and the Germans) say at face value to be true. It's not only the food industry that has seen scandal in the EU it's also the Germans motor car industry, VW well and truly pulled the wool over people's eyes on emissions from their vehicles. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef.
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU.
I'll take that as proof that you cant tell the difference then.
Lamborghini have pretty high, standards, they make a good product. If I take a 1980s Lada, stick a bull logo on it and convince some sucker to buy it claiming its a Lamborghini, does that mean that I have committed fraud, or that Lamborghini has low standards? .
Yeah like Lamborghinis rarely set on fire through manufacturers fault?.
Naw ... The trouble with you is you'll believe any old bollocks providing its fed to you by a neo liberal
CLCC will believe anything an expert tells them. They probably drive a VW and believed the bollocks that VW came out with about emissions from their vehicles. So much for taking what the experts (and the Germans) say at face value to be true. It's not only the food industry that has seen scandal in the EU it's also the Germans motor car industry, VW well and truly pulled the wool over people's eyes on emissions from their vehicles. "
So still cant tell the difference between fraud and standards huh? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Fabio we already do that now with all the fast food joints on our high streets now God knows what shit we are eating "
But isn't that the point of some of the food standards and regulations we have? To protect us from the likes of fast food joints using animal products of a low welfare, safety or quality to save a few quid?
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef.
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU.
I'll take that as proof that you cant tell the difference then.
Lamborghini have pretty high, standards, they make a good product. If I take a 1980s Lada, stick a bull logo on it and convince some sucker to buy it claiming its a Lamborghini, does that mean that I have committed fraud, or that Lamborghini has low standards? .
Yeah like Lamborghinis rarely set on fire through manufacturers fault?.
Naw ... The trouble with you is you'll believe any old bollocks providing its fed to you by a neo liberal
CLCC will believe anything an expert tells them. They probably drive a VW and believed the bollocks that VW came out with about emissions from their vehicles. So much for taking what the experts (and the Germans) say at face value to be true. It's not only the food industry that has seen scandal in the EU it's also the Germans motor car industry, VW well and truly pulled the wool over people's eyes on emissions from their vehicles. "
The man never manages to stay on topic...
I am so tempted to feed him high laden beef... and he can wash it down with steroid laden milk...
Nothing gets in the way of his exit fantasy... not even food standards or animal welfare
P.s the chickens you were talking about before.... they are given antibiotics... so good luck to your immune system next time you are ill......
P.p.s.... the reason why the eu ban chlorine chicken.... it can be used to mask food that has gone off...... |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Fabio can uto I please explain to me if what you say is true how the hell are 360 million ppl doing ok eating that food ?"
America is not exactly held in high regards when it comes to nutrition |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Fabio can uto I please explain to me if what you say is true how the hell are 360 million ppl doing ok eating that food ?
America is not exactly held in high regards when it comes to nutrition "
That is right and uk is in second place. |
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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Fabio can uto I please explain to me if what you say is true how the hell are 360 million ppl doing ok eating that food ?"
Because it is allowed by the us FDA...
For example the reason for allowing steroids and high in cattle is that it makes them stronger and fitter... the side effect just happens to be that it increases milk production in dairy.... it makes cattle bigger
Imagine force feeding a goose to make it bigger, its the Same principle |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Fabio can uto I please explain to me if what you say is true how the hell are 360 million ppl doing ok eating that food ?
America is not exactly held in high regards when it comes to nutrition That is right and uk is in second place."
And because Britain is the best we want to be number one! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"At the moment the eu bans the import of certain foods from the us...
For example, the chlorine chicken row at the moment...
Other examples would be a lot of us beef and pork based on farmers giving their animals hgh to improve size
Also genetically modified foods from the us are banned as well
Also food standards with regard to animal welfare are higher in the eu than the us...
So the question is this.... would you be willing to sacrifice any of the eu safeguards in order to get a us trade deal done "
Hey, you've pinched my post..  Lol Anyway.. Personally i would look out for the labelling and avoid. I avoid sodium nitrite products but if money's toght i can imagine others buying whats cheapest |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Fabio can uto I please explain to me if what you say is true how the hell are 360 million ppl doing ok eating that food ?
America is not exactly held in high regards when it comes to nutrition That is right and uk is in second place.
And because Britain is the best we want to be number one! "
Yes they will be, the fast food country. |
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef.
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU.
I'll take that as proof that you cant tell the difference then.
Lamborghini have pretty high, standards, they make a good product. If I take a 1980s Lada, stick a bull logo on it and convince some sucker to buy it claiming its a Lamborghini, does that mean that I have committed fraud, or that Lamborghini has low standards? .
Yeah like Lamborghinis rarely set on fire through manufacturers fault?.
Naw ... The trouble with you is you'll believe any old bollocks providing its fed to you by a neo liberal
CLCC will believe anything an expert tells them. They probably drive a VW and believed the bollocks that VW came out with about emissions from their vehicles. So much for taking what the experts (and the Germans) say at face value to be true. It's not only the food industry that has seen scandal in the EU it's also the Germans motor car industry, VW well and truly pulled the wool over people's eyes on emissions from their vehicles.
The man never manages to stay on topic...
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Your thread went way off topic long before I made that post. |
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By *VBethTV/TS
over a year ago
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I thought the problem was that they used chlorine washing in lieu of the whole life good treatment that is the standard here and elsewhere. Chlorine washing in itself isn't a hugely bad thing providing the same chlorine water isn't used continuously but it is bad when used INSTEAD of actually rearing poultry with care and having clean slaughterhouses/packaging plants. |
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?
Yes bring it on all day long. The European food standards agency says that chlorine washed chicken is perfectly safe to eat so it makes no sense at all for the EU to ban it. The real reason the EU has banned USA chicken is because the EU is a protection racket that puts up barriers to trade and it doesn't like competition, the USA chicken is cheaper so people would be more inclined to buy it rather than EU chicken. The USA chicken is said to be more safe than EU chicken to consume because when it's washed in Chlorine it kills any trace of Salmonella. The EU chicken is only washed in clean cold water so it doesn't kill any Salmonella that may still be on the chicken. More risk of Salmonella poisoning from eating EU chicken. First and foremost I'd buy British chicken because I like to support our own British industry but I'd have no problem buying and eating American chicken and saving money in the process because USA chicken is cheaper.
Millions of Americans eat it all the time and it doesn't do them any harm and Brits who have been on holiday in the USA and eaten chicken there have more than likely already consumed some in the past. This story is yet another hysterical scaremongering tactic from remainers who want to put the brakes on Brexit or scupper any future Uk/USA trade deal.
Lets have the facts as tbh Centaur people have stopped taking notice with you nonsensical nonsense plucked out of thin air
Those are the facts all easily checked on Google. Most of what I just posted is also reported in today's newspapers. "
You don't read newspapers centaur. What you read are comics. |
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Its so good that I take as a tonic a 25ml shot of chlorine everyday to ward off salmonella.
So yes it's safer than EU chicken (which is likely to kill you stone dead in the spot... Because traitors) but British chicken is still the best because although it's still farmed to EU standards it's British and the extra patriotism and hypocrisy add to the flavour |
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No compromise from our higher standards.
A race to the bottom, so that a giant country can swamp a smaller one with its substandard products, by forcing the small country to relinquish its own higher safeguards and standards is the folly of elite politicians with no care for the wellbeing of its citizens.
We should continue at the European standards level as a minimum.
The atrocious meat and other food raising standards in the USA should be enough to realise that their lower cost food that would be dumped on us poses serious risks to a sustainable level of good health here. |
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"I understand what it does Iv worked in the food industry for yrs I ment why is it not harming the ppl of America if it's so bad then or is it ?"
Their life expectancy is lower than ours for starters and it's partly about now but also about the future.
Antibiotics are routinely used in animal rearing, whilst hygiene and long term care of animals is disgusting - it helps them survive better and increase yields. These same medicines are used for people but growing immunity is becoming a potential creation of people not being safe from infections.
Not having animals routinely fed with and given antibiotics should be a priority for us. |
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?..How much horse meat have you eaten over the last twenty years without knowing.
Good point so much for superior EU food standards when they had horse meat being packaged and sold as beef.
Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU. "
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Horse meat fraud wasn't about legal standards but deception and this was made harder to discover because of cuts to government staff levels. |
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We should have learned from the BSE scandal - but probably not. Liam can afford to buy organic, free range, bio fed chicken so will never be at risk! Funny I remember a UK politician saying beef was ok - but wouldn't give his kids it? Same old nothing changes. ... |
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By *ercuryMan
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"We should have learned from the BSE scandal - but probably not. Liam can afford to buy organic, free range, bio fed chicken so will never be at risk! Funny I remember a UK politician saying beef was ok - but wouldn't give his kids it? Same old nothing changes. ..."
Well, not quite. John Gummer invited his daughter to eat a burger, but she refused. (She was only 4 at the time).
John Gummer then proceeded to eat the burger.
Believe that Father and Daughter are still well and happy, although the burger didn't survive the encounter. |
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"I thought the problem was that they used chlorine washing in lieu of the whole life good treatment that is the standard here and elsewhere. Chlorine washing in itself isn't a hugely bad thing providing the same chlorine water isn't used continuously but it is bad when used INSTEAD of actually rearing poultry with care and having clean slaughterhouses/packaging plants. "
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Can't you grasp the difference between fraud, and intentionally lowered standards?
If the EU food standards were so high and rigorous then this should never have happened in the first place. Pretty lax and negligent for this to have happened within the EU. "
So becsuse the EU have decided what is a good standard for us Europeans but a handful of manufacturers decided to break the standards then it's all the EU's fault
Fucks sake, you're getting desperate now |
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"And this veered off topic.....
So putting the question back front and centre
Are you prepared to in effect lower and sacrifice certain food and animal welfare standards in order to get a us trade deal?
Yes bring it on all day long."
So there we have it, poorer quality & inhumane treatment of animals is a perfectly acceptable Brexit.
I wonder if poorer quality & animal treatment would of been important if staying in the EU meant lowering the standards Centaur ?
I think it just might have done |
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"Its alright, Gove has said ue won't allow chlorinated chicken. He is calling for a "Green Brexit", but I thought May was calling for a "Red White and Blue Brexit" "
. Would you orefer May to be calling for an EU brexit or is it wrong for a leader to put there country first
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By *LCCCouple
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"Its alright, Gove has said ue won't allow chlorinated chicken. He is calling for a "Green Brexit", but I thought May was calling for a "Red White and Blue Brexit" . Would you orefer May to be calling for an EU brexit or is it wrong for a leader to put there country first "
Well an "EU Brexit" makes sense, because its about "Britain Exiting the EU" where as a "Red, White and Blue Brexit" or a "Green Brexit" makes no sense as Britain is not exiting from colours. If you understand "Green" to mean environmental regulations, then a "Green Brexit" would be "Britain exiting from its agreed environmental provisions and protections" which I think is probably the opposite of what Gove meant. |
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