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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? " Dunno ? But I have to admit he's not half as thick as everyone thought he was ! He stopped me Voting for May and I was Set To . Had to settle for non of the Above ! | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? " I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. " I think the op may have been referring to Glastonbury this afternoon where the crowd were chanting his name. | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. " Do you live in a cave? It's everywhere... | |||
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"Was think of running for next election. Just have to double the workforce and £ on Police, NHS and free university costs to capture under 25's. Bound to win regardless of the debt the UK will be in. Just have to spin it and make lots of appearances" As long as you don't let the politicians and the top ten percent shake the money tree for themselves, then everyone will be able to have their fair share. There is plenty to go around .... just like those luxury flats in Kensington, why should one section of society benefit so much whilst others are suffering so badly? | |||
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"Winning a popularity contest doesn't necessarily make you a good leader!" No, indeed. May is very much proving that right now! 
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"No he is not the messiah, he is a very naughty boy. Sorry you walked into that one
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous " Who on this thread is a nazi? | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous " PMSL..... never been called alt-reich before. Certainly not given my voting record over the decades.... | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi?" why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law  | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous " Trying to shut down those who disagree with you by comparing them to Fascists. How very fascist of you! I see irony is completely lost on you    | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law "You do know what alt-right is don't you? You should as you throw the insult at everyone who doesn't share your views. | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Trying to shut down those who disagree with you by comparing them to Fascists. How very fascist of you! I see irony is completely lost on you "why are you dragging fascists into it | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law "Maybe it was the "alt-reich" bit  | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
You do know what alt-right is don't you?."you clearly don't chap | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
Maybe it was the "alt-reich" bit "you're being a drama queen and reading too much into things | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
You do know what alt-right is don't you?.
you clearly don't chap
"I clearly do. You clearly don't. So take your narrow minded facist attitudes elsewhere. Night night sweet cheeks xx | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
Maybe it was the "alt-reich" bit
you're being a drama queen and reading too much into things "Notting really a drama. As I said, 5 more years of tory rule
But it's also clear that by using the word reich rather than right you were implying a similarity to the Nazi's. Which I was pointing out was ironic since you were trying to shut down any other ideas to your own.
No drama on my part. Each to their own pal | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
You do know what alt-right is don't you?.
you clearly don't chap
I clearly do. You clearly don't. So take your narrow minded facist attitudes elsewhere. Night night sweet cheeks xx"resorting to your usual name calling tantrums .... standard | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
Maybe it was the "alt-reich" bit
you're being a drama queen and reading too much into things
Notting really a drama. As I said, 5 more years of tory rule
But it's also clear that by using the word reich rather than right you were implying a similarity to the Nazi's. Which I was pointing out was ironic since you were trying to shut down any other ideas to your own.
No drama on my part. Each to their own pal "you're just inventing things that don't exist now | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
Maybe it was the "alt-reich" bit
you're being a drama queen and reading too much into things
Notting really a drama. As I said, 5 more years of tory rule
But it's also clear that by using the word reich rather than right you were implying a similarity to the Nazi's. Which I was pointing out was ironic since you were trying to shut down any other ideas to your own.
No drama on my part. Each to their own pal
you're just inventing things that don't exist now "Which bit? | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
Maybe it was the "alt-reich" bit
you're being a drama queen and reading too much into things
Notting really a drama. As I said, 5 more years of tory rule
But it's also clear that by using the word reich rather than right you were implying a similarity to the Nazi's. Which I was pointing out was ironic since you were trying to shut down any other ideas to your own.
No drama on my part. Each to their own pal
you're just inventing things that don't exist now
Which bit?"i'm not here to council your paranoid delusions chap .... go and play in the lounge instead, there's a good boy | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
You do know what alt-right is don't you?.
you clearly don't chap
I clearly do. You clearly don't. So take your narrow minded facist attitudes elsewhere. Night night sweet cheeks xx
resorting to your usual name calling tantrums .... standard "Name calling tantrums? Mr Pot, have you met my friend Mr Kettle? Everyone can read what you wrote and we all know what you mean. I don't go for name calling but feel free to drag up any threads where I have. I'm off for the night, ttfm sweetness xx | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
You do know what alt-right is don't you?.
you clearly don't chap
I clearly do. You clearly don't. So take your narrow minded facist attitudes elsewhere. Night night sweet cheeks xx
resorting to your usual name calling tantrums .... standard
Name calling tantrums? Mr Pot, have you met my friend Mr Kettle? Everyone can read what you wrote and we all know what you mean. I don't go for name calling but feel free to drag up any threads where I have. I'm off for the night, ttfm sweetness xx"i agree that you need to spend some time away from the forums with that bad attitude of yours chap | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
Maybe it was the "alt-reich" bit
you're being a drama queen and reading too much into things
Notting really a drama. As I said, 5 more years of tory rule
But it's also clear that by using the word reich rather than right you were implying a similarity to the Nazi's. Which I was pointing out was ironic since you were trying to shut down any other ideas to your own.
No drama on my part. Each to their own pal
you're just inventing things that don't exist now
Which bit?
i'm not here to council your paranoid delusions chap .... go and play in the lounge instead, there's a good boy "I'll take that as argument won since you've had to resort to evasion and vague attempts at belittlement   | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
Maybe it was the "alt-reich" bit
you're being a drama queen and reading too much into things
Notting really a drama. As I said, 5 more years of tory rule
But it's also clear that by using the word reich rather than right you were implying a similarity to the Nazi's. Which I was pointing out was ironic since you were trying to shut down any other ideas to your own.
No drama on my part. Each to their own pal
you're just inventing things that don't exist now
Which bit?
i'm not here to council your paranoid delusions chap .... go and play in the lounge instead, there's a good boy
I'll take that as argument won since you've had to resort to evasion and vague attempts at belittlement "tell someone who cares about your puerile musings instead | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
Maybe it was the "alt-reich" bit
you're being a drama queen and reading too much into things
Notting really a drama. As I said, 5 more years of tory rule
But it's also clear that by using the word reich rather than right you were implying a similarity to the Nazi's. Which I was pointing out was ironic since you were trying to shut down any other ideas to your own.
No drama on my part. Each to their own pal
you're just inventing things that don't exist now
Which bit?
i'm not here to council your paranoid delusions chap .... go and play in the lounge instead, there's a good boy
I'll take that as argument won since you've had to resort to evasion and vague attempts at belittlement
tell someone who cares about your puerile musings instead "Dodge, Duck, Dip, Dive, Dodge...  | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? " . He is not the messiah, he is a very naughty boy | |||
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"Corbyn have a premier league audience that follow him wherever he goes, he is a modern day rocky balboa, a people champion "A modern day Rocky Balboa my arse, Corbyn is more a modern day Albert Steptoe....."Harold!!!!" | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Do you live in a cave? It's everywhere..." You mean like the 'Day of Rage' protest that Corbyn and McDonnell called for thousands to turn up to in the week. In the real event only 400 hard left idiots decided to turn up and chanted "Oh Jeremy Corbyn" as they marched from Shepherds Bush to Parliament square and were outnumbered by Police on the day, lol. | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Do you live in a cave? It's everywhere... You mean like the 'Day of Rage' protest that Corbyn and McDonnell called for thousands to turn up to in the week. In the real event only 400 hard left idiots decided to turn up and chanted "Oh Jeremy Corbyn" as they marched from Shepherds Bush to Parliament square and were outnumbered by Police on the day, lol. "You really should stop believing what you read in the papers and on the Britain First Facebook page, Centaur! You'll never shake your reputation as Fab's Comical Ali otherwise! | |||
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"So where was his support for armed forces day ? "There was none from Corbyn, he was too busy getting his jollies at Glastonbury. | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Do you live in a cave? It's everywhere... You mean like the 'Day of Rage' protest that Corbyn and McDonnell called for thousands to turn up to in the week. In the real event only 400 hard left idiots decided to turn up and chanted "Oh Jeremy Corbyn" as they marched from Shepherds Bush to Parliament square and were outnumbered by Police on the day, lol.
You really should stop believing what you read in the papers and on the Britain First Facebook page, Centaur! You'll never shake your reputation as Fab's Comical Ali otherwise! "That was a nickname that was first penned for you on here during the 2015 general election campaign as I recall. You kept saying Ed Miliband would win with ease, everyone could see how utterly deluded you were and that Miliband never stood a chance. Miliband proceeded to get whooped and took a spanking from the electorate as predicted and Cameron got a majority in 2015. | |||
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"Was think of running for next election. Just have to double the workforce and £ on Police, NHS and free university costs to capture under 25's. Bound to win regardless of the debt the UK will be in. Just have to spin it and make lots of appearances" Labour had a fully costed manifesto? | |||
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"So where was his support for armed forces day ?
There was none from Corbyn, he was too busy getting his jollies at Glastonbury. "Where's the armed forces support for Corbyn | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
You do know what alt-right is don't you?.
you clearly don't chap
I clearly do. You clearly don't. So take your narrow minded facist attitudes elsewhere. Night night sweet cheeks xx
resorting to your usual name calling tantrums .... standard
Name calling tantrums? Mr Pot, have you met my friend Mr Kettle? Everyone can read what you wrote and we all know what you mean. I don't go for name calling but feel free to drag up any threads where I have. I'm off for the night, ttfm sweetness xx
i agree that you need to spend some time away from the forums with that bad attitude of yours chap"Yes you do | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous Who on this thread is a nazi? why are you dragging nazi's into it .... godwins law
You do know what alt-right is don't you?.
you clearly don't chap
I clearly do. You clearly don't. So take your narrow minded facist attitudes elsewhere. Night night sweet cheeks xx
resorting to your usual name calling tantrums .... standard ".....That's all you ever do on here ..mouth off...and your childish names for every thing ...straight out of a toddlers play group...man/boy. | |||
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"So where was his support for armed forces day ? ".....It's bullshit...do you remember seeing him at Wootten Bassett. | |||
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"Yes it is a great thought give more to teachers schools nhs benefits. Have more and more immigration. This is an island there is only so much room. Soon all the green spaces will be gone. Everytime the conservatives start to sort out the economy that labour has left in tatters back it swings. Labour over spends borrowing more looks great to the people but then who is actually paying for it all ? All that glitters has to be paid for. The books have to balance. " All the fucking green spaces will be gone if you vote tory. The conservatives tried to sell off all our forests.. and i fucking me all state owned forests all 635,000 hectares.They are as far from environmental conservationists as you can get. | |||
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"Ah, apologies to you Centaur, I'm being mean there...spelling mistakes and all! I really do understand where you coming from. You are starting to realise Brexit may not happen and it will fuck the UK f it does, you know that Corbyn is going to be our next PM, it's no wonder you're in a spin. I don't mean to laugh, I'm sorry! "The joke is on you, Corbyn is a Brexiteer and always has been going back to the 70's. Look at how he campaigned during the EU referendum compared to how he campaigned in the general election, there is a massive difference, his heart was clearly never in campaigning for Remain. It was reported in the days after the referendum he was over heard in a conversation in a cafe that he said he had voted Leave. He put a 3 line whip in to trigger article 50 during the vote on it in Parliament and he put Brexit in the Labour manifesto. We would still be leaving the EU even if Corbyn had won the general election, lol. | |||
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"Corbyn is the only party leader who gives a shit about servicemen. He gets enormous respect from British forces around the world for actually caring about them as people, rather than paying lip service to them for the newspapers while regarding them as canon fodder. One of the many reasons why he's going to be our next prime minister - and he will be the first in decades genuinely worthy of respect in the role." Theresa May attended the official Armed Forces Day parade in Liverpool yesterday. Jeremy Corbyn spent the day at Glastonbury, enjoying his cult personality. And yes, I did say cult! | |||
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"Armed forces Day and where was Corbin...?? .at Glastonbury with the Activist society...says it all really.....Shameful" Shock horror, politician doesn't put Brown noseing armed forces at centre of universe. | |||
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"Yes it is a great thought give more to teachers schools nhs benefits. Have more and more immigration. This is an island there is only so much room. Soon all the green spaces will be gone. Everytime the conservatives start to sort out the economy that labour has left in tatters back it swings. Labour over spends borrowing more looks great to the people but then who is actually paying for it all ? All that glitters has to be paid for. The books have to balance. " Labour's manifesto was fully costed? | |||
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"That's all you ever do on here ..mouth off...and your childish names for every thing ...straight out of a toddlers play group...man/boy." and you childishly decide to get yourself involved ... pretty puerile of yourself really ... or did these guys who decided to pick a fight pm you and ask for you to be their white knight? | |||
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"Yes it is a great thought give more to teachers schools nhs benefits. Have more and more immigration. This is an island there is only so much room. Soon all the green spaces will be gone. Everytime the conservatives start to sort out the economy that labour has left in tatters back it swings. Labour over spends borrowing more looks great to the people but then who is actually paying for it all ? All that glitters has to be paid for. The books have to balance. " What planet do you have to be on to think the Tories can sort out the economy? I bet you don't even realise that George Osborne flatlined the economic recovery Labour had expertly engineered when he took the reigns in 2010? Are you sure you weren't at Glastonbury yesterday yourself? Your perceptions seem a little off! | |||
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"Corbyn is the only party leader who gives a shit about servicemen. He gets enormous respect from British forces around the world for actually caring about them as people, rather than paying lip service to them for the newspapers while regarding them as canon fodder. One of the many reasons why he's going to be our next prime minister - and he will be the first in decades genuinely worthy of respect in the role. Theresa May attended the official Armed Forces Day parade in Liverpool yesterday. Jeremy Corbyn spent the day at Glastonbury, enjoying his cult personality. And yes, I did say cult! " Corbyn, unlike May, doesn't need to make empty gestures. The forces know he supports them, as they support him. It's not for nothing that May was booed at the Liverpool parade. I really hope you aren't suggesting that our armed forces deserve more than equal respect with the members of the public from every walk of life who attended Glastonbury. That would be very strange! | |||
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"Corbyn is the only party leader who gives a shit about servicemen. He gets enormous respect from British forces around the world for actually caring about them as people, rather than paying lip service to them for the newspapers while regarding them as canon fodder. One of the many reasons why he's going to be our next prime minister - and he will be the first in decades genuinely worthy of respect in the role. Theresa May attended the official Armed Forces Day parade in Liverpool yesterday. Jeremy Corbyn spent the day at Glastonbury, enjoying his cult personality. And yes, I did say cult! Corbyn, unlike May, doesn't need to make empty gestures. The forces know he supports them, as they support him. It's not for nothing that May was booed at the Liverpool parade. I really hope you aren't suggesting that our armed forces deserve more than equal respect with the members of the public from every walk of life who attended Glastonbury. That would be very strange!" I'll let people draw their own conclusions. Jeremy Corbyn actually turned down an invitation to attend an Armed Forces event in nearby Burnham On Sea. | |||
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"Ah, apologies to you Centaur, I'm being mean there...spelling mistakes and all! I really do understand where you coming from. You are starting to realise Brexit may not happen and it will fuck the UK f it does, you know that Corbyn is going to be our next PM, it's no wonder you're in a spin. I don't mean to laugh, I'm sorry!
The joke is on you, Corbyn is a Brexiteer and always has been going back to the 70's. Look at how he campaigned during the EU referendum compared to how he campaigned in the general election, there is a massive difference, his heart was clearly never in campaigning for Remain. It was reported in the days after the referendum he was over heard in a conversation in a cafe that he said he had voted Leave. He put a 3 line whip in to trigger article 50 during the vote on it in Parliament and he put Brexit in the Labour manifesto. We would still be leaving the EU even if Corbyn had won the general election, lol. "One thing that you have got right there Centaur is that you realise we'd still be leaving the EU if Labour has won the election...but predictably you fail to realise this means I'm glad they didn't. Things are working out beautifully with Brexit. Unfortunately we have to go through with it in some shape or form. The Tories mortal wounding at the polls means they have no mandate for the course the headbangers were set to put us on, and serves to emphasise their uselessness every time they capitulate to EU instruction during every stage of negotiation to come. The Tories are a gift to Labour now. They will limp on for at very best a year, during which time they will be so useless even people like you will be screaming for someone else to take the reigns of the negotiations. Labour will win the next election allowing them to take over the process, and construct a deal that retains the best elements of membership giving us the softest Brexit imaginable, all under the guise of 'what else can we do? The Tories have fucked it beyond repair'. It's truly beautiful to behold. I admire Corbyn for many things, but never did I expect him to be a tactical genius. And yet every move he has made, especially his three line whip over Brexit, has been a master stroke. This is a wonderful time to be alive! | |||
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"Corbyn is the only party leader who gives a shit about servicemen. He gets enormous respect from British forces around the world for actually caring about them as people, rather than paying lip service to them for the newspapers while regarding them as canon fodder. One of the many reasons why he's going to be our next prime minister - and he will be the first in decades genuinely worthy of respect in the role. Theresa May attended the official Armed Forces Day parade in Liverpool yesterday. Jeremy Corbyn spent the day at Glastonbury, enjoying his cult personality. And yes, I did say cult! Corbyn, unlike May, doesn't need to make empty gestures. The forces know he supports them, as they support him. It's not for nothing that May was booed at the Liverpool parade. I really hope you aren't suggesting that our armed forces deserve more than equal respect with the members of the public from every walk of life who attended Glastonbury. That would be very strange! I'll let people draw their own conclusions. Jeremy Corbyn actually turned down an invitation to attend an Armed Forces event in nearby Burnham On Sea." They already have. Literally no-one gives a fuck about that stuff anymore, you may as well start calling him Teflon Jezza! | |||
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"you know when the right are worried when the express basically criticise him for keep young people engaged in politics and going to glastonbury, so they find the convient "he didn't support the troops on armed forces day" line instead... how long has armed forces day been going for anyway..... and that also doesn't tell the full story as he was suppose to do glastonbury last time, but had to pull out.... but hey.... he managed to do something that people for decades had been trying to do... get the young out to vote.... the key now is.... can he keep them interested, and get the people behind them to vote as well!!! then i would be inclinded to have the "lowering the voting age" conversation....." I think the voting age should be lowered but don't posit Jeremy as a reason - that's enough to ensure it will never happen. Reading the politics forum these last two days has really proved, to me, that a) people only believe their own news and b) it's fair game to criticize politicians for being populist and politicians if they're not yours. The hypocrisy is outstanding. | |||
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"you know when the right are worried when the express basically criticise him for keep young people engaged in politics and going to glastonbury, so they find the convient "he didn't support the troops on armed forces day" line instead... how long has armed forces day been going for anyway..... and that also doesn't tell the full story as he was suppose to do glastonbury last time, but had to pull out.... but hey.... he managed to do something that people for decades had been trying to do... get the young out to vote.... the key now is.... can he keep them interested, and get the people behind them to vote as well!!! then i would be inclinded to have the "lowering the voting age" conversation....." Are you confident that he can keep it up for five years? | |||
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"When Jezza gets round to being PM which will certainly happen after the next election I worry he will be a bit on the old side. He's no spring chicken. " He's not, but he's the sort of guy who takes very good care of himself. He'll be knocking around for years and years. Skinner will have nothing on Jez! I'm more worried about outside interference, to be honest. He is the biggest threat to the establishment this country has seen in generations. | |||
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"i do love the way that people have taken such umbridge to corbin not doing anything to mark armed forces day.... its like we have been having this celebration for hundreds and hundreds of years with our vast armed forces heritage... it must have been going back to the 1800's at least.... what you do mean its only been going 10 years!!! 10......so not even a 19something then..... wow... i have been celebrating arsenal winning the league at anfield longer than you lot have been supporting the forces in this fashion..... ive been celebrating dr who coming back on tv with Christopher eccleston longer.... Liverpool fans have been celebrating "that night in istanbul" longer.......... England cricket fans have been celebrating Flitoffs ashes victory longer...... so please..... lets not get outraged for the sake of being outraged....... " The real question is how many of the 'outraged' people knew it was Armed Forces Day until the Express told them they should be 'outraged' over Jeremy Corbyn 'snubbing' it. The vast majority were most likely showing their 'respect' for our veterans by getting pissed in the pub or watching Corbyn on telly so they could get themselves into a lather about him. | |||
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"When Jezza gets round to being PM which will certainly happen after the next election I worry he will be a bit on the old side. He's no spring chicken. He's not, but he's the sort of guy who takes very good care of himself. He'll be knocking around for years and years. Skinner will have nothing on Jez! I'm more worried about outside interference, to be honest. He is the biggest threat to the establishment this country has seen in generations." I have to say, Corbyn doesn't look like he is 68. Especially when you consider Trump is only 3 years older and look at the state of him. -Matt | |||
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"When Jezza gets round to being PM which will certainly happen after the next election I worry he will be a bit on the old side. He's no spring chicken. He's not, but he's the sort of guy who takes very good care of himself. He'll be knocking around for years and years. Skinner will have nothing on Jez! I'm more worried about outside interference, to be honest. He is the biggest threat to the establishment this country has seen in generations." He really does take care of himself. He's got a very firm body and grip. I was surprised. I post this safe in the knowledge that I have also felt the bodies and grip of senior politicians from the other main parties. All fully dressed and in public, of course. | |||
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"i do love the way that people have taken such umbridge to corbin not doing anything to mark armed forces day.... its like we have been having this celebration for hundreds and hundreds of years with our vast armed forces heritage... it must have been going back to the 1800's at least.... what you do mean its only been going 10 years!!! 10......so not even a 19something then..... wow... i have been celebrating arsenal winning the league at anfield longer than you lot have been supporting the forces in this fashion..... ive been celebrating dr who coming back on tv with Christopher eccleston longer.... Liverpool fans have been celebrating "that night in istanbul" longer.......... England cricket fans have been celebrating Flitoffs ashes victory longer...... so please..... lets not get outraged for the sake of being outraged....... The real question is how many of the 'outraged' people knew it was Armed Forces Day until the Express told them they should be 'outraged' over Jeremy Corbyn 'snubbing' it. The vast majority were most likely showing their 'respect' for our veterans by getting pissed in the pub or watching Corbyn on telly so they could get themselves into a lather about him. "I've never even heard of Armed Forces day. The only thing I seem to hear about celebrating armed forces on here is that Army v Navy rugby game and the women on here in a dither over which team has the best thighs! -Matt | |||
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"No he is not the messiah, he is a very naughty boy. Sorry you walked into that one
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"Armed Forces Day has been celebrated since 2009 (it was previously called veterans day), and is normally on the last Saturday in June (closest to the first date of the awarding of the first VC). Official celebrations are centred on one city; this year it was Liverpool, last year it was Nottingham, and allows the Armed Forces to put on displays and meet and greets etc. It allows the public to show their appreciation of our Armed Forces, and our Armed Forces veterans. Smaller events are undertaken in many other places. Its entirely up to individuals if they agree or not with the concept." We can all use Wikipedia mate. | |||
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"Armed Forces Day has been celebrated since 2009 (it was previously called veterans day), and is normally on the last Saturday in June (closest to the first date of the awarding of the first VC). Official celebrations are centred on one city; this year it was Liverpool, last year it was Nottingham, and allows the Armed Forces to put on displays and meet and greets etc. It allows the public to show their appreciation of our Armed Forces, and our Armed Forces veterans. Smaller events are undertaken in many other places. Its entirely up to individuals if they agree or not with the concept. We can all use Wikipedia mate. "My county has many RAF and army bases; we always know up here when Armed Forces day is. | |||
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"i do love the way that people have taken such umbridge to corbin not doing anything to mark armed forces day.... its like we have been having this celebration for hundreds and hundreds of years with our vast armed forces heritage... it must have been going back to the 1800's at least.... what you do mean its only been going 10 years!!! 10......so not even a 19something then..... wow... i have been celebrating arsenal winning the league at anfield longer than you lot have been supporting the forces in this fashion..... ive been celebrating dr who coming back on tv with Christopher eccleston longer.... Liverpool fans have been celebrating "that night in istanbul" longer.......... England cricket fans have been celebrating Flitoffs ashes victory longer...... so please..... lets not get outraged for the sake of being outraged....... " . When your in a hole like Iraq caused you need the people behind you and you do that by association, you need to manipulate the narrative which is why we have the armed forces day, the daily mirror armed forces awards... You won't find anyone more patriotic or proud than me but I'm still willing to say what's wrong and what's right, however once you've bumped up the hubris whatever you say becomes treasonous and you can use simple words like dissenter, cowardice, pacifist to shut those voices down | |||
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""I really hope you aren't suggesting that our armed forces deserve more than equal respect with the members of the public from every walk of life who attended Glastonbury. That would be very strange!" Then I'm strange. The Armed Forces (and those in the "Blue light" professions) deserve immense respect, many put themselves in danger on an almost daily basis." thats true... but i don't see a national fireman/policemen/doctors/nurses day.... why stop there... why should they get more respect than... lets say teachers, or social those who work in the public sector. those care workers for example... so yes... i don't put armed forces on a pedistall over any of them.... | |||
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""I really hope you aren't suggesting that our armed forces deserve more than equal respect with the members of the public from every walk of life who attended Glastonbury. That would be very strange!" Then I'm strange. The Armed Forces (and those in the "Blue light" professions) deserve immense respect, many put themselves in danger on an almost daily basis." Yes, you are strange. You seem to not be able to tell the difference between 'respect' and 'equal respect' for a start. Putting that aside though, if you can explain to me why a soldier deserves more respect than a teacher, or a fireman deserves more respect than a doctor, rather than equal respect, I'm all ears. | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? " if he is then id like to emigrate. He couldn't attend an armed forces event.. And personally dont get all this hate towards May. She is dealing with an awful lot of stuff at the moment both foriegn and domestic. I certainly wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now. Hindsight is a great thing.. and its okay all these people saying if they had been or were in power. They would do whatever... but in reality... would they. | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? if he is then id like to emigrate. He couldn't attend an armed forces event.. And personally dont get all this hate towards May. She is dealing with an awful lot of stuff at the moment both foriegn and domestic. I certainly wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now. Hindsight is a great thing.. and its okay all these people saying if they had been or were in power. They would do whatever... but in reality... would they. " | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? if he is then id like to emigrate. He couldn't attend an armed forces event.. And personally dont get all this hate towards May. She is dealing with an awful lot of stuff at the moment both foriegn and domestic. I certainly wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now. Hindsight is a great thing.. and its okay all these people saying if they had been or were in power. They would do whatever... but in reality... would they. " She's dealing with stuff of her own making....she put her party and herself before the countries interests. I think her saying was "strong and stable"....shes "weak and wobbly"...and has to rely on another group of terrorists to prop up her government...oh wait there not terrorists they support the union | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? if he is then id like to emigrate. He couldn't attend an armed forces event.. And personally dont get all this hate towards May. She is dealing with an awful lot of stuff at the moment both foriegn and domestic. I certainly wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now. Hindsight is a great thing.. and its okay all these people saying if they had been or were in power. They would do whatever... but in reality... would they. She's dealing with stuff of her own making....she put her party and herself before the countries interests. I think her saying was "strong and stable"....shes "weak and wobbly"...and has to rely on another group of terrorists to prop up her government...oh wait there not terrorists they support the union "sorry but ill agree to disagree about it being of her own making. Not sure how the terrorist attacks or tragedies are the governments faults. Guess its my bad for looking at facts not papers | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? if he is then id like to emigrate. He couldn't attend an armed forces event.. And personally dont get all this hate towards May. She is dealing with an awful lot of stuff at the moment both foriegn and domestic. I certainly wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now. Hindsight is a great thing.. and its okay all these people saying if they had been or were in power. They would do whatever... but in reality... would they. " Well, that's the point. All the evidence for May and her government, and Cameron's government before, is there for all to see. They have failed to do what they said they would go by every metric you can apply. They have proven themselves to be economically incompetent for the last seven years, and they have put the lives of people in this country at risk for profit. Grenfell, London Bridge, Finsbury Park mosque, the Manchester attack..all are as a result of Tory policy. Corbyn's shadow government propose the sound policies that would make our country safer and our economy stronger. There is literally only one test as to whether they will fulfill those promises, or not. | |||
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""I really hope you aren't suggesting that our armed forces deserve more than equal respect with the members of the public from every walk of life who attended Glastonbury. That would be very strange!" Then I'm strange. The Armed Forces (and those in the "Blue light" professions) deserve immense respect, many put themselves in danger on an almost daily basis. Yes, you are strange. You seem to not be able to tell the difference between 'respect' and 'equal respect' for a start. Putting that aside though, if you can explain to me why a soldier deserves more respect than a teacher, or a fireman deserves more respect than a doctor, rather than equal respect, I'm all ears." If you dont understand the difference between those that face bombs and bullets and face the fear that goes with that for weeks on end and a fireman etc that face danger once in a long while then you are the strange one | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? if he is then id like to emigrate. He couldn't attend an armed forces event.. And personally dont get all this hate towards May. She is dealing with an awful lot of stuff at the moment both foriegn and domestic. I certainly wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now. Hindsight is a great thing.. and its okay all these people saying if they had been or were in power. They would do whatever... but in reality... would they. She's dealing with stuff of her own making....she put her party and herself before the countries interests. I think her saying was "strong and stable"....shes "weak and wobbly"...and has to rely on another group of terrorists to prop up her government...oh wait there not terrorists they support the union sorry but ill agree to disagree about it being of her own making.
Not sure how the terrorist attacks or tragedies are the governments faults.
Guess its my bad for looking at facts not papers "May cut the police on our streets by twenty thousand officers. She also cut the admin staff who support their efforts to keep us safe by twenty thousand. These are the people whose job it is to understand who might become radicalised and engage in a terror attack, to stop them before they happen. This is the reason why all the attackers were known to police, and the communities ha md warned they were dangerous people, but there were no resources to follow the warnings up. No resourves to keep innocent people safe. Her government sat on the reports by fire authorities warning that flats like Grenfell were unsafe for four years, under successive ministers. That is why people died in their homes. Those are the facts. That is why these things happen. If you choose to ignore them, I really have to wonder why. | |||
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""I really hope you aren't suggesting that our armed forces deserve more than equal respect with the members of the public from every walk of life who attended Glastonbury. That would be very strange!" Then I'm strange. The Armed Forces (and those in the "Blue light" professions) deserve immense respect, many put themselves in danger on an almost daily basis. Yes, you are strange. You seem to not be able to tell the difference between 'respect' and 'equal respect' for a start. Putting that aside though, if you can explain to me why a soldier deserves more respect than a teacher, or a fireman deserves more respect than a doctor, rather than equal respect, I'm all ears. If you dont understand the difference between those that face bombs and bullets and face the fear that goes with that for weeks on end and a fireman etc that face danger once in a long while then you are the strange one" I understand those things perfectly well. What's strange is that you think by observing this, you have made some sort of a relevant point. Want to have another go at it? | |||
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"Nurenberg rally Corbyn is a very dangerous man,Germany laughed while Hitler and is noisy followers took over the rest is history.I see 1984 for real here but not enough can see it. Maybe it is time to really start to speak out but I think I would be wasting my time sadly." ... | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? if he is then id like to emigrate. He couldn't attend an armed forces event.. And personally dont get all this hate towards May. She is dealing with an awful lot of stuff at the moment both foriegn and domestic. I certainly wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now. Hindsight is a great thing.. and its okay all these people saying if they had been or were in power. They would do whatever... but in reality... would they. She's dealing with stuff of her own making....she put her party and herself before the countries interests. I think her saying was "strong and stable"....shes "weak and wobbly"...and has to rely on another group of terrorists to prop up her government...oh wait there not terrorists they support the union sorry but ill agree to disagree about it being of her own making.
Not sure how the terrorist attacks or tragedies are the governments faults.
Guess its my bad for looking at facts not papers
May cut the police on our streets by twenty thousand officers. She also cut the admin staff who support their efforts to keep us safe by twenty thousand. These are the people whose job it is to understand who might become radicalised and engage in a terror attack, to stop them before they happen. This is the reason why all the attackers were known to police, and the communities ha md warned they were dangerous people, but there were no resources to follow the warnings up. No resourves to keep innocent people safe.
Her government sat on the reports by fire authorities warning that flats like Grenfell were unsafe for four years, under successive ministers. That is why people died in their homes.
Those are the facts. That is why these things happen. If you choose to ignore them, I really have to wonder why."previous governments did.. including labour ones.. My arguement is does any government actually do any different... Its easy for the party not in power to critise or say they would do something different but the fact is that they dont. The people obviously do support May in general or she would have been voted out. 11 seats was all they were lacking by. | |||
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"Nurenberg rally Corbyn is a very dangerous man,Germany laughed while Hitler and is noisy followers took over the rest is history.I see 1984 for real here but not enough can see it. Maybe it is time to really start to speak out but I think I would be wasting my time sadly.... "I don't think Corbyn is Dangerous ! I think he's genuine if not misguided on some not all ! Of his views in my probbally Worthless opinion BUT and it's s big BUT !!!
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? if he is then id like to emigrate. He couldn't attend an armed forces event.. And personally dont get all this hate towards May. She is dealing with an awful lot of stuff at the moment both foriegn and domestic. I certainly wouldn't want to be in her shoes right now. Hindsight is a great thing.. and its okay all these people saying if they had been or were in power. They would do whatever... but in reality... would they. She's dealing with stuff of her own making....she put her party and herself before the countries interests. I think her saying was "strong and stable"....shes "weak and wobbly"...and has to rely on another group of terrorists to prop up her government...oh wait there not terrorists they support the union sorry but ill agree to disagree about it being of her own making.
Not sure how the terrorist attacks or tragedies are the governments faults.
Guess its my bad for looking at facts not papers
May cut the police on our streets by twenty thousand officers. She also cut the admin staff who support their efforts to keep us safe by twenty thousand. These are the people whose job it is to understand who might become radicalised and engage in a terror attack, to stop them before they happen. This is the reason why all the attackers were known to police, and the communities ha md warned they were dangerous people, but there were no resources to follow the warnings up. No resourves to keep innocent people safe.
Her government sat on the reports by fire authorities warning that flats like Grenfell were unsafe for four years, under successive ministers. That is why people died in their homes.
Those are the facts. That is why these things happen. If you choose to ignore them, I really have to wonder why.previous governments did.. including labour ones.. My arguement is does any government actually do any different...
Its easy for the party not in power to critise or say they would do something different but the fact is that they dont.
The people obviously do support May in general or she would have been voted out. 11 seats was all they were lacking by.
"Corbyn's government have never been in power. Labour under Blair and Brown is closer to the Tories than a Corbyn government, so your point doesn't stand up. The vote share at the election was 42% Conservative, 40% Labour. All the polls show that were the election run today, Kabour would be the largest party, not the Conservatives. Corbyn also just beat Maybin the latest poll as to who the public would want as PM, so the idea that people 'generally support May' is fanciful at best. It's more the case they are stuck with her against everyone's wishes, even that of her own party, until the next election (within 12 months). By the way, there is no Tory who will currently challenge her for the role of PM, as none of them are quite stupid enough to want to shoulder the curse she has brought them. Strong and stable, don't forget! | |||
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"Corbyn have a premier league audience that follow him wherever he goes, he is a modern day rocky balboa, a people champion "This is a fact! Corbyn should have quit, run away due to the pressure he was under. His own party were backstabbing him. Media and other well established entities had him down as a joke and written him off. The arrogance of May and majority of the political elite thought Corbyn will get smashed in the elections. Only a modern day people champion can survive a wave like that. Not only is he surviving he is thriving. Because he is doing what he does best... That is being true to himself and trying to do his best. I used to think he is too polite to gain momentum and slow down ruthless politics, but my god he has a fighting spirit. The eye of the tiger! He is soo passionate and genuine even some of the opposition are standing aside because they don't want to get run over by the Corbyn train. Full steam ahead! Choo choo! If anyone deserves a chance to have power it is Corbyn. Let him tackle Europe to give us a fair opportunity. June elections were the end of May... she is wounded. Only a matter of time now! | |||
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"Yes it is a great thought give more to teachers schools nhs benefits. Have more and more immigration. This is an island there is only so much room. Soon all the green spaces will be gone. Everytime the conservatives start to sort out the economy that labour has left in tatters back it swings. Labour over spends borrowing more looks great to the people but then who is actually paying for it all ? All that glitters has to be paid for. The books have to balance. " The books will balance with everyone paying their fair dues. This nonsense about the non existent money tree is bandied about by those who are hiding it. They don't want to share it. There is enough money .... but those who had the eleven per cent pay raise and evade taxes want to take, take and take again | |||
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"Corbyn have a premier league audience that follow him wherever he goes, he is a modern day rocky balboa, a people champion
This is a fact!
Corbyn should have quit, run away due to the pressure he was under. His own party were backstabbing him. Media and other well established entities had him down as a joke and written him off.
The arrogance of May and majority of the political elite thought Corbyn will get smashed in the elections.
Only a modern day people champion can survive a wave like that. Not only is he surviving he is thriving. Because he is doing what he does best...
That is being true to himself and trying to do his best. I used to think he is too polite to gain momentum and slow down ruthless politics, but my god he has a fighting spirit.
The eye of the tiger!
He is soo passionate and genuine even some of the opposition are standing aside because they don't want to get run over by the Corbyn train.
Full steam ahead! Choo choo!
If anyone deserves a chance to have power it is Corbyn. Let him tackle Europe to give us a fair opportunity.
June elections were the end of May... she is wounded.
Only a matter of time now!"Haye to admit it but I agree with a lot of that ! And I never thought I'd say that in s trillion Years !!! I still wouldn't vote for him , But it's no longer impossible that I could change my mind ? And I'm 52 , always Vote and never Voted Labour in my life ! Or Conservative for that matter ! Liberal , Referendum Party , UKIP , Non If The Above ENP this time ( Spoilt ) . | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous " I, like nearly everyone including many Labour supporters, thought he was a useless leader and stood no chance of getting elected. Seems everyone was wrong about that. However, just because Corbyn looks like a more credible threat now doesn't make his £50 billon tax and spend policies any better or any less economically uncredible than they were before. | |||
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"so from unelectable to dangerous in the space of weeks .... the alt-reich sound nervous I, like nearly everyone including many Labour supporters, thought he was a useless leader and stood no chance of getting elected. Seems everyone was wrong about that. However, just because Corbyn looks like a more credible threat now doesn't make his £50 billon tax and spend policies any better or any less economically uncredible than they were before. " Citation needed, naturally! The policies are as costed as a prediction of the future is possible to be, they are credible, and no-one who has claimed otherwise has been able to demonstrate why they wouldn't be. And I'm pretty certain you're not going to be foolish enough to suggest the IFS as a point of reference here! | |||
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"That's all you ever do on here ..mouth off...and your childish names for every thing ...straight out of a toddlers play group...man/boy. and you childishly decide to get yourself involved ... pretty puerile of yourself really ... or did these guys who decided to pick a fight pm you and ask for you to be their white knight? "Only one person decided to pick a fight sweetcheeks x. Maybe check what you are saying means in future, it will save you a lot of embarassement. | |||
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"Well if you think corbyn is the new saviour god help us all .roll on armageddon " Of course he is, that's why his initials are JC! Don't forget though, there are many here who would rather worship at the alter of a fanatical death cult, and give blind devotion to a slowly withering sect who promise nothing more than the gradual destruction of British economy, society and values...otherwise known as the Conservative and Unionist Party! | |||
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"Nurenberg rally Corbyn is a very dangerous man,Germany laughed while Hitler and is noisy followers took over the rest is history.I see 1984 for real here but not enough can see it. Maybe it is time to really start to speak out but I think I would be wasting my time sadly." The sleeping giant awakens | |||
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"That's all you ever do on here ..mouth off...and your childish names for every thing ...straight out of a toddlers play group...man/boy. and you childishly decide to get yourself involved ... pretty puerile of yourself really ... or did these guys who decided to pick a fight pm you and ask for you to be their white knight?
Only one person decided to pick a fight sweetcheeks x. Maybe check what you are saying means in future, it will save you a lot of embarassement. "yep, and that person was you chap. if you can't contain yourself over a satirical turn of phrase and chose to weigh in with personal attacks and insults then your immaturity shows you really shouldn't be in the politics forum. | |||
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"so anyway .... my point still stands ... he's either an unelectable subject of ridicule or he's dangerous because he is a serious contender for winning another early election ... he can't be both" It's a fair Point ! I'm still sure | |||
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"No he is not the messiah, he is a very naughty boy. Sorry you walked into that one
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"Meant not sure "Are you sure you're not sure now or are you not sure you're sure. #ConfusedSuit | |||
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"That's all you ever do on here ..mouth off...and your childish names for every thing ...straight out of a toddlers play group...man/boy. and you childishly decide to get yourself involved ... pretty puerile of yourself really ... or did these guys who decided to pick a fight pm you and ask for you to be their white knight?
Only one person decided to pick a fight sweetcheeks x. Maybe check what you are saying means in future, it will save you a lot of embarassement.
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" I think you will find its you who throws out personal attacks and insults. Night sweetcheeks xx" infantile ... get a grip and grow up chap | |||
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"When Jezza gets round to being PM which will certainly happen after the next election I worry he will be a bit on the old side. He's no spring chicken. He's not, but he's the sort of guy who takes very good care of himself. He'll be knocking around for years and years. Skinner will have nothing on Jez! I'm more worried about outside interference, to be honest. He is the biggest threat to the establishment this country has seen in generations. I have to say, Corbyn doesn't look like he is 68. Especially when you consider Trump is only 3 years older and look at the state of him. -Matt" Blimey _dwalu2 !! I have read all your posts in this thread and you're good. I often have a read of the politics threads, but rarely post because Matt always sets the record straight. He has way too much fun in here. And you're both in Bristol. Hmm interesting... Maybe just a coincidence. Sounds like Bristol is the place to be for all political things that make sense. | |||
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"seems to be gaining a momentum, wherever crowds go, chants of jeremy corbyn are being chanted everywhere. personally i dont see a may gov lasting, shes out of her depth. is jeremy the messiah? I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. I think the op may have been referring to Glastonbury this afternoon where the crowd were chanting his name. " Lol not me. I was leading the boos when he came on stage, the last think you want when you are enjoying yourself is being preached at! | |||
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"Well if you think corbyn is the new saviour god help us all .roll on armageddon Of course he is, that's why his initials are JC! " The JC stands for Just Crap in Corbyn's case. | |||
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"Well if you think corbyn is the new saviour god help us all .roll on armageddon Of course he is, that's why his initials are JC! The JC stands for Just Crap in Corbyn's case. " Oh, go on Centaur, say he looks like Steptoe again. It's been at least 48 hours since you last did. We've forgotten. -Matt | |||
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"is jeremy the messiah?" "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials..." I do find it a little ironic that there is a certain personality cult has formed around him. Because that doesn't seem to be what he's about. He seems very keen on taking the focus away from individuals and onto policies. If the whole momentum is going to work, then it's gonna have to bring about more of a bottom up, grassroots democracy that can endure regardless of who is in charge. | |||
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"Well if you think corbyn is the new saviour god help us all .roll on armageddon Of course he is, that's why his initials are JC! The JC stands for Just Crap in Corbyn's case. Oh, go on Centaur, say he looks like Steptoe again. It's been at least 48 hours since you last did. We've forgotten. -Matt " Centaur reminds me of a Stevie wonder song he's mr no it all | |||
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"is jeremy the messiah? "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials..." I do find it a little ironic that there is a certain personality cult has formed around him. Because that doesn't seem to be what he's about. He seems very keen on taking the focus away from individuals and onto policies. If the whole momentum is going to work, then it's gonna have to bring about more of a bottom up, grassroots democracy that can endure regardless of who is in charge." The irony is Jeremy Corbyn attending Glastonbury, a place where the Metropolitan Elite pay big money to make rich people even richer! | |||
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"is jeremy the messiah? "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials..." I do find it a little ironic that there is a certain personality cult has formed around him. Because that doesn't seem to be what he's about. He seems very keen on taking the focus away from individuals and onto policies. If the whole momentum is going to work, then it's gonna have to bring about more of a bottom up, grassroots democracy that can endure regardless of who is in charge. The irony is Jeremy Corbyn attending Glastonbury, a place where the Metropolitan Elite pay big money to make rich people even richer! "Couldn't agree with this more! Gastonbury is expensive, we didn't notice too many poor people, we spent a fortune and lots of people did well out of the attendees. Quite the middle class festival. | |||
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"is jeremy the messiah? "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials..." I do find it a little ironic that there is a certain personality cult has formed around him. Because that doesn't seem to be what he's about. He seems very keen on taking the focus away from individuals and onto policies. If the whole momentum is going to work, then it's gonna have to bring about more of a bottom up, grassroots democracy that can endure regardless of who is in charge. The irony is Jeremy Corbyn attending Glastonbury, a place where the Metropolitan Elite pay big money to make rich people even richer!
Couldn't agree with this more! Gastonbury is expensive, we didn't notice too many poor people, we spent a fortune and lots of people did well out of the attendees. Quite the middle class festival."How would you have spotted 'poor people' at the festival, out of interest? Does Michael Eavis still make them wear an armband? | |||
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"is jeremy the messiah? "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials..." I do find it a little ironic that there is a certain personality cult has formed around him. Because that doesn't seem to be what he's about. He seems very keen on taking the focus away from individuals and onto policies. If the whole momentum is going to work, then it's gonna have to bring about more of a bottom up, grassroots democracy that can endure regardless of who is in charge. The irony is Jeremy Corbyn attending Glastonbury, a place where the Metropolitan Elite pay big money to make rich people even richer!
Couldn't agree with this more! Gastonbury is expensive, we didn't notice too many poor people, we spent a fortune and lots of people did well out of the attendees. Quite the middle class festival.
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"is jeremy the messiah? "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials..." I do find it a little ironic that there is a certain personality cult has formed around him. Because that doesn't seem to be what he's about. He seems very keen on taking the focus away from individuals and onto policies. If the whole momentum is going to work, then it's gonna have to bring about more of a bottom up, grassroots democracy that can endure regardless of who is in charge. The irony is Jeremy Corbyn attending Glastonbury, a place where the Metropolitan Elite pay big money to make rich people even richer!
Couldn't agree with this more! Gastonbury is expensive, we didn't notice too many poor people, we spent a fortune and lots of people did well out of the attendees. Quite the middle class festival.
How would you have spotted 'poor people' at the festival, out of interest? Does Michael Eavis still make them wear an armband?
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"Ive been twice in the 90s never paid for a ticket.Went over the fence once and paid a tenner for a UV stamp once.It was full of kids off their head just like me in the 90s.Never saw the metropolitan elite when i was there i doubt they could handle the loos after day 1. Also Glastonbury has always been political.To say otherwise is absurd."West Bromwich Labour MP Tom Watson was filmed there last year. Footage was on the news at the time. It's reported in the press now channel 4 news reader Jon Snow was there this year chanting "fuck the tories" with the other drugged up loons. So much for channel 4 news impartiality. | |||
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"Ive been twice in the 90s never paid for a ticket.Went over the fence once and paid a tenner for a UV stamp once.It was full of kids off their head just like me in the 90s.Never saw the metropolitan elite when i was there i doubt they could handle the loos after day 1. Also Glastonbury has always been political.To say otherwise is absurd.
West Bromwich Labour MP Tom Watson was filmed there last year. Footage was on the news at the time. It's reported in the press now channel 4 news reader Jon Snow was there this year chanting "fuck the tories" with the other drugged up loons. So much for channel 4 news impartiality. "Not seen that on the news either...or heard that Jon Snow has lost his job over it....whats this like the 350m promised for the NHS lol | |||
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"Ive been twice in the 90s never paid for a ticket.Went over the fence once and paid a tenner for a UV stamp once.It was full of kids off their head just like me in the 90s.Never saw the metropolitan elite when i was there i doubt they could handle the loos after day 1. Also Glastonbury has always been political.To say otherwise is absurd.
West Bromwich Labour MP Tom Watson was filmed there last year. Footage was on the news at the time. It's reported in the press now channel 4 news reader Jon Snow was there this year chanting "fuck the tories" with the other drugged up loons. So much for channel 4 news impartiality.
Not seen that on the news either...or heard that Jon Snow has lost his job over it....whats this like the 350m promised for the NHS lol "I cant wait for someone to write 1 billon on the side of a bus for the DUP and drive the fucker round the country. Atleast theyll be telling the truth unlike the brexit turds. | |||
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"Ive been twice in the 90s never paid for a ticket.Went over the fence once and paid a tenner for a UV stamp once.It was full of kids off their head just like me in the 90s.Never saw the metropolitan elite when i was there i doubt they could handle the loos after day 1. Also Glastonbury has always been political.To say otherwise is absurd.
West Bromwich Labour MP Tom Watson was filmed there last year. Footage was on the news at the time. It's reported in the press now channel 4 news reader Jon Snow was there this year chanting "fuck the tories" with the other drugged up loons. So much for channel 4 news impartiality.
Not seen that on the news either...or heard that Jon Snow has lost his job over it....whats this like the 350m promised for the NHS lol "It was printed in newspapers yesterday, a tweet that was posted by a Glastonbury attendee over the weekend showed him standing arm in arm with Jon Snow from channel 4 news, and the written text in the tweet described what they were chanting. The tweet that was posted on twitter over the weekend has now been deleted (is Jon Snow embarrassed about it or worried about his job and that's why it was deleted? ). I expect channel 4 will have an investigation into it. | |||
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"Ive been twice in the 90s never paid for a ticket.Went over the fence once and paid a tenner for a UV stamp once.It was full of kids off their head just like me in the 90s.Never saw the metropolitan elite when i was there i doubt they could handle the loos after day 1. Also Glastonbury has always been political.To say otherwise is absurd.
West Bromwich Labour MP Tom Watson was filmed there last year. Footage was on the news at the time. It's reported in the press now channel 4 news reader Jon Snow was there this year chanting "fuck the tories" with the other drugged up loons. So much for channel 4 news impartiality.
Not seen that on the news either...or heard that Jon Snow has lost his job over it....whats this like the 350m promised for the NHS lol
It was printed in newspapers yesterday, a tweet that was posted by a Glastonbury attendee over the weekend showed him standing arm in arm with Jon Snow from channel 4 news, and the written text in the tweet described what they were chanting. The tweet that was posted on twitter over the weekend has now been deleted (is Jon Snow embarrassed about it or worried about his job and that's why it was deleted? ). I expect channel 4 will have an investigation into it. "Chinese whispers and hearsay.Irrelevant. | |||
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. " Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. | |||
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. " He gained 29 seats against a projected 100 seat loss, turned a Tory majority into a hung parliament, caused the biggest swing to Labour since 1945 and recorded a vote share of 40.5% to the Tories' 42% off the back of a 24 point poll deficit caused by the largest orchestrated media campaign against a Labour leader in living memory. He has turned Labour majorities into super majorities across the country, won 'impossible' Tory seats and turned former Tory safe seats into paper thin marginals up and down the UK. Labour are now beating the Tories in the polls, and people would prefer him to be the PM instead of May. The only way you could describe that as a bad loss is if you didn't have a clue what you were taking about. | |||
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. He gained 29 seats against a projected 100 seat loss, turned a Tory majority into a hung parliament, caused the biggest swing to Labour since 1945 and recorded a vote share of 40.5% to the Tories' 42% off the back of a 24 point poll deficit caused by the largest orchestrated media campaign against a Labour leader in living memory. He has turned Labour majorities into super majorities across the country, won 'impossible' Tory seats and turned former Tory safe seats into paper thin marginals up and down the UK. Labour are now beating the Tories in the polls, and people would prefer him to be the PM instead of May. The only way you could describe that as a bad loss is if you didn't have a clue what you were taking about. "The tories are on the ropes the knockout is only a matter of time. | |||
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. He gained 29 seats against a projected 100 seat loss, turned a Tory majority into a hung parliament, caused the biggest swing to Labour since 1945 and recorded a vote share of 40.5% to the Tories' 42% off the back of a 24 point poll deficit caused by the largest orchestrated media campaign against a Labour leader in living memory. He has turned Labour majorities into super majorities across the country, won 'impossible' Tory seats and turned former Tory safe seats into paper thin marginals up and down the UK. Labour are now beating the Tories in the polls, and people would prefer him to be the PM instead of May. The only way you could describe that as a bad loss is if you didn't have a clue what you were taking about. The tories are on the ropes the knockout is only a matter of time. "Labour are in disarray again, the party was split yesterday on a vote on staying in the single market and the customs union, Corbyn sacked 3 of the Labour front bench for voting against his whip. It's clear now Corbyn wants out of the single market and the customs union. There is a thread about it here on the politics forum but the usually very vocal Labour supporters on here haven't posted on it and are being as quiet as a mouse on the topic. They seem to have lost their tongues. All is not well in the Labour party. | |||
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. He gained 29 seats against a projected 100 seat loss, turned a Tory majority into a hung parliament, caused the biggest swing to Labour since 1945 and recorded a vote share of 40.5% to the Tories' 42% off the back of a 24 point poll deficit caused by the largest orchestrated media campaign against a Labour leader in living memory. He has turned Labour majorities into super majorities across the country, won 'impossible' Tory seats and turned former Tory safe seats into paper thin marginals up and down the UK. Labour are now beating the Tories in the polls, and people would prefer him to be the PM instead of May. The only way you could describe that as a bad loss is if you didn't have a clue what you were taking about. The tories are on the ropes the knockout is only a matter of time. "The same could have been said about Labour 6 months ago. It does not take much in Politics for a seismic shift sadly. I will profit greatly if Labour come into power but I don't see it happening anytime soon? Where will this knock out blow come from? | |||
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. He gained 29 seats against a projected 100 seat loss, turned a Tory majority into a hung parliament, caused the biggest swing to Labour since 1945 and recorded a vote share of 40.5% to the Tories' 42% off the back of a 24 point poll deficit caused by the largest orchestrated media campaign against a Labour leader in living memory. He has turned Labour majorities into super majorities across the country, won 'impossible' Tory seats and turned former Tory safe seats into paper thin marginals up and down the UK. Labour are now beating the Tories in the polls, and people would prefer him to be the PM instead of May. The only way you could describe that as a bad loss is if you didn't have a clue what you were taking about. The tories are on the ropes the knockout is only a matter of time.
The same could have been said about Labour 6 months ago. It does not take much in Politics for a seismic shift sadly.
I will profit greatly if Labour come into power but I don't see it happening anytime soon?
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. He gained 29 seats against a projected 100 seat loss, turned a Tory majority into a hung parliament, caused the biggest swing to Labour since 1945 and recorded a vote share of 40.5% to the Tories' 42% off the back of a 24 point poll deficit caused by the largest orchestrated media campaign against a Labour leader in living memory. He has turned Labour majorities into super majorities across the country, won 'impossible' Tory seats and turned former Tory safe seats into paper thin marginals up and down the UK. Labour are now beating the Tories in the polls, and people would prefer him to be the PM instead of May. The only way you could describe that as a bad loss is if you didn't have a clue what you were taking about. The tories are on the ropes the knockout is only a matter of time.
Labour are in disarray again, the party was split yesterday on a vote on staying in the single market and the customs union, Corbyn sacked 3 of the Labour front bench for voting against his whip. It's clear now Corbyn wants out of the single market and the customs union. There is a thread about it here on the politics forum but the usually very vocal Labour supporters on here haven't posted on it and are being as quiet as a mouse on the topic. They seem to have lost their tongues. All is not well in the Labour party. "It's not quite so bad as the tories try are in disarray but you can't admit that We're doomed under them just watch them mess up brexit there 50% there all ready | |||
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" Where will this knock out blow come from? The media will take the tories out .They're like sharks circling the tories at present .The tories are flapping around like a a dieing fish.There is much discontent in the population ." I thought the left always say the tories have the media in their pockets?
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. " .. | |||
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" Where will this knock out blow come from? The media will take the tories out .They're like sharks circling the tories at present .The tories are flapping around like a a dieing fish.There is much discontent in the population . I thought the left always say the tories have the media in their pockets?
Joking apart I think we are in need of reining in the media, they are not reporting news anymore but making comment on whats happening, that is not their role, I have given up watching any news outlets it has got so bad, "I dont remember any of the right complaining about the endless attacks on corbyn that went on for months and was daily.Now the media have turned on the tories they need reigning in..Please...
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. .. "Get over it | |||
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" Where will this knock out blow come from? The media will take the tories out .They're like sharks circling the tories at present .The tories are flapping around like a a dieing fish.There is much discontent in the population . I thought the left always say the tories have the media in their pockets?
Joking apart I think we are in need of reining in the media, they are not reporting news anymore but making comment on whats happening, that is not their role, I have given up watching any news outlets it has got so bad, I dont remember any of the right complaining about the endless attacks on corbyn that went on for months and was daily.Now the media have turned on the tories they need reigning in..Please...
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. He gained 29 seats against a projected 100 seat loss, turned a Tory majority into a hung parliament, caused the biggest swing to Labour since 1945 and recorded a vote share of 40.5% to the Tories' 42% off the back of a 24 point poll deficit caused by the largest orchestrated media campaign against a Labour leader in living memory. He has turned Labour majorities into super majorities across the country, won 'impossible' Tory seats and turned former Tory safe seats into paper thin marginals up and down the UK. Labour are now beating the Tories in the polls, and people would prefer him to be the PM instead of May. The only way you could describe that as a bad loss is if you didn't have a clue what you were taking about. The tories are on the ropes the knockout is only a matter of time.
Labour are in disarray again, the party was split yesterday on a vote on staying in the single market and the customs union, Corbyn sacked 3 of the Labour front bench for voting against his whip. It's clear now Corbyn wants out of the single market and the customs union. There is a thread about it here on the politics forum but the usually very vocal Labour supporters on here haven't posted on it and are being as quiet as a mouse on the topic. They seem to have lost their tongues. All is not well in the Labour party. "Haven't you learned anything, Centaur? It's only an issue if you read the front pages of the Express or the Daily Mail. This is great for Corbyn as it's allowed him to show the 'moderates' some advance muscle. At the polls it means nothing. Most people won't even bother commenting on it. Still, I know you need dreams to cling to, so go ahead! | |||
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"is jeremy the messiah? "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials..." I do find it a little ironic that there is a certain personality cult has formed around him. Because that doesn't seem to be what he's about. He seems very keen on taking the focus away from individuals and onto policies. If the whole momentum is going to work, then it's gonna have to bring about more of a bottom up, grassroots democracy that can endure regardless of who is in charge. The irony is Jeremy Corbyn attending Glastonbury, a place where the Metropolitan Elite pay big money to make rich people even richer!
Couldn't agree with this more! Gastonbury is expensive, we didn't notice too many poor people, we spent a fortune and lots of people did well out of the attendees. Quite the middle class festival.
How would you have spotted 'poor people' at the festival, out of interest? Does Michael Eavis still make them wear an armband?
Would 'poor people' be able to afford to go?
A lot of people work/volunteer there in return for their tickets, so yeah most likely.
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" I've not heard any chants or seen any crowd's other than at organised Corbyn rallies. In essence Corbyn is only preaching to the already converted fan boys. Corbyn and Labour lost the general election, they got fewer overall votes than the Tories, they got a lower vote share than the Tories and they got fewer seats than the tories, Corbyn only gained 4 more seats than Gordon Brown got in 2010, it's not much to show for 7 years in opposition. Thank you for pointing this out. I'm not a Tory but this guy is acting like he Won the election. He didn't. He LOST. BADLY. Just think how unpopular Gordon Brown was. And this guy barely did better than him. He gained 29 seats against a projected 100 seat loss, turned a Tory majority into a hung parliament, caused the biggest swing to Labour since 1945 and recorded a vote share of 40.5% to the Tories' 42% off the back of a 24 point poll deficit caused by the largest orchestrated media campaign against a Labour leader in living memory. He has turned Labour majorities into super majorities across the country, won 'impossible' Tory seats and turned former Tory safe seats into paper thin marginals up and down the UK. Labour are now beating the Tories in the polls, and people would prefer him to be the PM instead of May. The only way you could describe that as a bad loss is if you didn't have a clue what you were taking about. "I didn't realise Labour got more votes and more seats than the Tories, a and that Carbon is now the Prime Minister of a Labour Government ... Oh wait a minute. Yep, just checked. You're right, a resounding victory for Labour. | |||
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"is jeremy the messiah? "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials..." I do find it a little ironic that there is a certain personality cult has formed around him. Because that doesn't seem to be what he's about. He seems very keen on taking the focus away from individuals and onto policies. If the whole momentum is going to work, then it's gonna have to bring about more of a bottom up, grassroots democracy that can endure regardless of who is in charge. The irony is Jeremy Corbyn attending Glastonbury, a place where the Metropolitan Elite pay big money to make rich people even richer!
Couldn't agree with this more! Gastonbury is expensive, we didn't notice too many poor people, we spent a fortune and lots of people did well out of the attendees. Quite the middle class festival.
How would you have spotted 'poor people' at the festival, out of interest? Does Michael Eavis still make them wear an armband?
Would 'poor people' be able to afford to go?
A lot of people work/volunteer there in return for their tickets, so yeah most likely.
-Matt
How many pay to attend? How many work/volunteer there so don't pay?"When i had fuck all money i jumped the fence. Have you evet been to Glastonbury or any other festival.In your alternate reality its full of the metropolitan liberal elite. ..Like fuck it is..Maybe for the daily fail readers it is.
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"Hail Jeremy, full of truth. The people are with you. Praised above all others art thou and glorious art the words that come from your mouth. Glorious Jeremy, father of the people, speak for us now, always and until our death. Amen. No personality cult here and definitely nothing sycophantic either. " If you were in any way capable of an objective view on Corbyn, you'd see that what you've written in sarcasm at the end is the truth. But you're not capable of objectivity. So your 'appraisal', such as it is, is meaningless. | |||
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"is jeremy the messiah? "I am not Jesus, though I have the same initials..." I do find it a little ironic that there is a certain personality cult has formed around him. Because that doesn't seem to be what he's about. He seems very keen on taking the focus away from individuals and onto policies. If the whole momentum is going to work, then it's gonna have to bring about more of a bottom up, grassroots democracy that can endure regardless of who is in charge. The irony is Jeremy Corbyn attending Glastonbury, a place where the Metropolitan Elite pay big money to make rich people even richer!
Couldn't agree with this more! Gastonbury is expensive, we didn't notice too many poor people, we spent a fortune and lots of people did well out of the attendees. Quite the middle class festival.
How would you have spotted 'poor people' at the festival, out of interest? Does Michael Eavis still make them wear an armband?
Would 'poor people' be able to afford to go?
A lot of people work/volunteer there in return for their tickets, so yeah most likely.
-Matt
How many pay to attend? How many work/volunteer there so don't pay? When i had fuck all money i jumped the fence. Have you evet been to Glastonbury or any other festival.In your alternate reality its full of the metropolitan liberal elite. ..Like fuck it is..Maybe for the daily fail readers it is.
"I've not been to Glastonbury but I have been to plenty of other festivals. I've not said at all anywhere that it's full of the metropolitan liberal elite. But neither is it full of people who can't afford the 200 odd quid to go. Maybe it is in your alternate reality. Btw I don't read the Daily Mail either. | |||
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". But neither is it full of people who can't afford the 200 odd quid to go. " So you're saying people who can't afford to Glastonbury don't go to Glastonbury? Shocking 
In all seriousness, it has become more middle class over the years. That's capitalism for you.
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"Hail Jeremy, full of truth. The people are with you. Praised above all others art thou and glorious art the words that come from your mouth. Glorious Jeremy, father of the people, speak for us now, always and until our death. Amen. No personality cult here and definitely nothing sycophantic either. If you were in any way capable of an objective view on Corbyn, you'd see that what you've written in sarcasm at the end is the truth. But you're not capable of objectivity. So your 'appraisal', such as it is, is meaningless." Whilst not agreeing with Jeremy et al on many policies I seldom actually attack him personally and I've not done so here. The post is directed at the almost religious like cult, especially amongst the young, that is forming around him. Whilst you may actually agree with his policies you should still be concerned at this 'cult of the personality' that seems to forming around him. It's OK to love a leader who has no real power but a leader who holds real power, or aspires to do so, needs to be respected, not loved. Respect endures through disagreement whilst love rapidly turns to hate. Jeremy, having gained a certain amount of creditability and with it respect due to is unexpectedly 'good' performance in the General Election now has a choice before him. Being loved may make becoming a leader easier, being respected would make becoming a good leader possible. Remember how much everyone once loved Tony Blair and how all that ended. | |||
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"Hail Jeremy, full of truth. The people are with you. Praised above all others art thou and glorious art the words that come from your mouth. Glorious Jeremy, father of the people, speak for us now, always and until our death. Amen. No personality cult here and definitely nothing sycophantic either. If you were in any way capable of an objective view on Corbyn, you'd see that what you've written in sarcasm at the end is the truth. But you're not capable of objectivity. So your 'appraisal', such as it is, is meaningless. Whilst not agreeing with Jeremy et al on many policies I seldom actually attack him personally and I've not done so here. The post is directed at the almost religious like cult, especially amongst the young, that is forming around him. Whilst you may actually agree with his policies you should still be concerned at this 'cult of the personality' that seems to forming around him. It's OK to love a leader who has no real power but a leader who holds real power, or aspires to do so, needs to be respected, not loved. Respect endures through disagreement whilst love rapidly turns to hate. Jeremy, having gained a certain amount of creditability and with it respect due to is unexpectedly 'good' performance in the General Election now has a choice before him. Being loved may make becoming a leader easier, being respected would make becoming a good leader possible. Remember how much everyone once loved Tony Blair and how all that ended. " There is no cult of Corbyn there is a cult of brexit cult. Corbyn had been on the right side of history for over 30 years.He stood up against apartheid when the tories looked the other way. Give me this kind of leader any day. The cult of corbyn propaganda pushed by yourself the daily mail and other right wing media outlets has failed to persuade anyone.That shit dont stick. | |||
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"Hail Jeremy, full of truth. The people are with you. Praised above all others art thou and glorious art the words that come from your mouth. Glorious Jeremy, father of the people, speak for us now, always and until our death. Amen. No personality cult here and definitely nothing sycophantic either. If you were in any way capable of an objective view on Corbyn, you'd see that what you've written in sarcasm at the end is the truth. But you're not capable of objectivity. So your 'appraisal', such as it is, is meaningless. Whilst not agreeing with Jeremy et al on many policies I seldom actually attack him personally and I've not done so here. The post is directed at the almost religious like cult, especially amongst the young, that is forming around him. Whilst you may actually agree with his policies you should still be concerned at this 'cult of the personality' that seems to forming around him. It's OK to love a leader who has no real power but a leader who holds real power, or aspires to do so, needs to be respected, not loved. Respect endures through disagreement whilst love rapidly turns to hate. Jeremy, having gained a certain amount of creditability and with it respect due to is unexpectedly 'good' performance in the General Election now has a choice before him. Being loved may make becoming a leader easier, being respected would make becoming a good leader possible. Remember how much everyone once loved Tony Blair and how all that ended. There is no cult of Corbyn there is a cult of brexit cult. Corbyn had been on the right side of history for over 30 years.He stood up against apartheid when the tories looked the other way. Give me this kind of leader any day. The cult of corbyn propaganda pushed by yourself the daily mail and other right wing media outlets has failed to persuade anyone.That shit dont stick. "I agree that there does seem to an almost cult like failure of common sense that seems to have taken over a large segment of the political right. It's as if someone had written on a barn wall "UK good, EU bad" but this thread is about Jeremy C, not BREXIT; and I have to say hearing loads of people singing "O Jeremy Corbyn" up and down the country looks and sounds far more like a 'cult of the personality' to me rather than rational political debate. Or am I missing something? | |||
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"Hail Jeremy, full of truth. The people are with you. Praised above all others art thou and glorious art the words that come from your mouth. Glorious Jeremy, father of the people, speak for us now, always and until our death. Amen. No personality cult here and definitely nothing sycophantic either. If you were in any way capable of an objective view on Corbyn, you'd see that what you've written in sarcasm at the end is the truth. But you're not capable of objectivity. So your 'appraisal', such as it is, is meaningless. Whilst not agreeing with Jeremy et al on many policies I seldom actually attack him personally and I've not done so here. The post is directed at the almost religious like cult, especially amongst the young, that is forming around him. Whilst you may actually agree with his policies you should still be concerned at this 'cult of the personality' that seems to forming around him. It's OK to love a leader who has no real power but a leader who holds real power, or aspires to do so, needs to be respected, not loved. Respect endures through disagreement whilst love rapidly turns to hate. Jeremy, having gained a certain amount of creditability and with it respect due to is unexpectedly 'good' performance in the General Election now has a choice before him. Being loved may make becoming a leader easier, being respected would make becoming a good leader possible. Remember how much everyone once loved Tony Blair and how all that ended. There is no cult of Corbyn there is a cult of brexit cult. Corbyn had been on the right side of history for over 30 years.He stood up against apartheid when the tories looked the other way. Give me this kind of leader any day. The cult of corbyn propaganda pushed by yourself the daily mail and other right wing media outlets has failed to persuade anyone.That shit dont stick.
I agree that there does seem to an almost cult like failure of common sense that seems to have taken over a large segment of the political right. It's as if someone had written on a barn wall "UK good, EU bad" but this thread is about Jeremy C, not BREXIT; and I have to say hearing loads of people singing "O Jeremy Corbyn" up and down the country looks and sounds far more like a 'cult of the personality' to me rather than rational political debate. Or am I missing something?"Its a movement rather than a cult.Is Macron in france a cult leader. We live in age of the cult of celebrity where young people follow the likes of the Kardashians on social media.So it's refreshing that they get engaged with the ideas of an old guy from a different generation.Regarding chanting.It happens every saturday in every stadium across the land. Im a member of the cult of man utd and have chanted at the ground.Its tribal and human. | |||
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