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over a year ago
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For the Labour supporters who think they have a chance of winning the election and that Labour would be good for the country, for workers and the poor? Shouldn't they be posting in the stories and fantasy section? |
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"For the Labour supporters who think they have a chance of winning the election and that Labour would be good for the country, for workers and the poor? Shouldn't they be posting in the stories and fantasy section? "
One of them maybe posting there I'm sure I saw a thread there about the 1970's.  |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump."
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that. |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that."
As a Brexit supporter then would you be happy with Corbyn and Labour keeping us in the single market and the customs union? Baring in mind that means accepting free movement of people from the EU, still under the jurisdiction of the European courts and unable to sign our own trade deals. |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that.
As a Brexit supporter then would you be happy with Corbyn and Labour keeping us in the single market and the customs union? Baring in mind that means accepting free movement of people from the EU, still under the jurisdiction of the European courts and unable to sign our own trade deals. "
truthfully I have no idea how brexits going to play out for the UK but I have no faith in theresa may getting us anything good from it...I think corbyns calm manner approach has a better chance of getting somthing better from brexit than mays stubborn hard stance.
but the election isnt all about brexit its just part of it....when it comes to manifestos. .out of all the partys...the conservatives was the least appealing. |
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"As strong opposed stable to strong Theresa stable strong May. Stable and strong her stable plans strong to stable cut strong all stable public strong services.
-Matt"
sounds ligit .... except the stable bit ... oh and the strong bit is a little far fetched too |
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The strong and stable May who called an election because she was not strong enough to deal with a few dissenting voices has only become less stable as the day of the GE draws nearer..
I still doubt Corbyn will win but I also don't think she whatever the outcome can be viewed as anything like strong and stable by those in the EU with whom she will be negotiating against on behalf of all of us..
And that I don't think is a good thing..
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that."
Being objective, Corbyn has shown improvements in his media performances (with the main recent exception of the sky news one where he walked into the IRA trap). A manifesto promising to spend other people's money is always going to find support with a certain section of society. But you don't seem to be giving much weight to the absolutely dreadful performances of key cabinet people like dianne abbott and john MacDonell.
If you seriously think it's 50/50 then you should be placing every penny you can get your hands on and going down the bookies because the odds certainly state that the market does not believe it is that close. |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that.
Being objective, Corbyn has shown improvements in his media performances (with the main recent exception of the sky news one where he walked into the IRA trap). A manifesto promising to spend other people's money is always going to find support with a certain section of society. But you don't seem to be giving much weight to the absolutely dreadful performances of key cabinet people like dianne abbott and john MacDonell.
If you seriously think it's 50/50 then you should be placing every penny you can get your hands on and going down the bookies because the odds certainly state that the market does not believe it is that close. "
There is also the equally dreadful Emily Thornberry factor who said Trident could be scrapped by Labour after a defence review should Labour win, even though it's in the Labour manifesto to keep trident. The Labour defence secretary had to smack Thornberry down, Labour are a divided party on Trident and Brexit and divided parties don't win elections. |
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her biggest worry is not the EU knowing that she is neither strong nor stable .... her biggest worry now is from the 1922 committee .... they are sharpening their knives ready for a good old tory leadership back stabbing .... there is no way she can embarrass the party this much and survive as leader |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that.
Being objective, Corbyn has shown improvements in his media performances (with the main recent exception of the sky news one where he walked into the IRA trap). A manifesto promising to spend other people's money is always going to find support with a certain section of society. But you don't seem to be giving much weight to the absolutely dreadful performances of key cabinet people like dianne abbott and john MacDonell.
If you seriously think it's 50/50 then you should be placing every penny you can get your hands on and going down the bookies because the odds certainly state that the market does not believe it is that close.
There is also the equally dreadful Emily Thornberry factor who said Trident could be scrapped by Labour after a defence review should Labour win, even though it's in the Labour manifesto to keep trident. The Labour defence secretary had to smack Thornberry down, Labour are a divided party on Trident and Brexit and divided parties don't win elections. "
I thought paxman was a bit of a knob trying to have a good at corbyn for failing to get scrapping trident into the manifesto. The unions run Labour, not corbyn. Corbyn is finally getting a taste of the real world of leadership where his principles count for jack shit and he'll be no different to nick clegg and his tuition fees when the time comes. If it comes. |
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The traditional polls are still giving Theresa May and the tories and healthy majority. There is only 1 poll saying hung Parliament and this in a new Yougov poll using a new untested and controversial polling method which has huge margins of error. I think the people constantly parroting this poll now really are clutching at straws. |
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"her biggest worry is not the EU knowing that she is neither strong nor stable .... her biggest worry now is from the 1922 committee .... they are sharpening their knives ready for a good old tory leadership back stabbing .... there is no way she can embarrass the party this much and survive as leader "
I guess they'll watch a video of the Milliband back stabbing to note how to perfect the technique. Should one twist the knife left or right? |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that.
Being objective, Corbyn has shown improvements in his media performances (with the main recent exception of the sky news one where he walked into the IRA trap). A manifesto promising to spend other people's money is always going to find support with a certain section of society. But you don't seem to be giving much weight to the absolutely dreadful performances of key cabinet people like dianne abbott and john MacDonell.
If you seriously think it's 50/50 then you should be placing every penny you can get your hands on and going down the bookies because the odds certainly state that the market does not believe it is that close.
There is also the equally dreadful Emily Thornberry factor who said Trident could be scrapped by Labour after a defence review should Labour win, even though it's in the Labour manifesto to keep trident. The Labour defence secretary had to smack Thornberry down, Labour are a divided party on Trident and Brexit and divided parties don't win elections. "
Emily Thornberry could be used as evidence to disprove evolution. |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that.
Being objective, Corbyn has shown improvements in his media performances (with the main recent exception of the sky news one where he walked into the IRA trap). A manifesto promising to spend other people's money is always going to find support with a certain section of society. But you don't seem to be giving much weight to the absolutely dreadful performances of key cabinet people like dianne abbott and john MacDonell.
If you seriously think it's 50/50 then you should be placing every penny you can get your hands on and going down the bookies because the odds certainly state that the market does not believe it is that close.
There is also the equally dreadful Emily Thornberry factor who said Trident could be scrapped by Labour after a defence review should Labour win, even though it's in the Labour manifesto to keep trident. The Labour defence secretary had to smack Thornberry down, Labour are a divided party on Trident and Brexit and divided parties don't win elections.
I thought paxman was a bit of a knob trying to have a good at corbyn for failing to get scrapping trident into the manifesto. The unions run Labour, not corbyn. Corbyn is finally getting a taste of the real world of leadership where his principles count for jack shit and he'll be no different to nick clegg and his tuition fees when the time comes. If it comes. "
We already know Corbyn is a sell out when it comes to his principles. He opposed the EU his whole career then backed the Remain campaign as soon as he becomes Labour leader. He is a snivelling spineless sell out who I wouldn't trust to negotiate his way out of a paper bag never mind Brexit. |
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"her biggest worry is not the EU knowing that she is neither strong nor stable .... her biggest worry now is from the 1922 committee .... they are sharpening their knives ready for a good old tory leadership back stabbing .... there is no way she can embarrass the party this much and survive as leader
I guess they'll watch a video of the Milliband back stabbing to note how to perfect the technique. Should one twist the knife left or right? "
try asking heseltine, johnson, gove etc etc etc .... or the most famous backstabber of all ..... the king of the stalking horses himself ... mr anthony meyer .... those torys know all there is to know about the ceaser/brutus political relationship
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"her biggest worry is not the EU knowing that she is neither strong nor stable .... her biggest worry now is from the 1922 committee .... they are sharpening their knives ready for a good old tory leadership back stabbing .... there is no way she can embarrass the party this much and survive as leader
I guess they'll watch a video of the Milliband back stabbing to note how to perfect the technique. Should one twist the knife left or right?
try asking heseltine, johnson, gove etc etc etc .... or the most famous backstabber of all ..... the king of the stalking horses himself ... mr anthony meyer .... those torys know all there is to know about the ceaser/brutus political relationship
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Yes, goves was pretty amazing. He broke bo jo with that one. Still at least he sent his kid to a state school unlike abbott, aye comrade |
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"Still at least he sent his kid to a state school unlike abbott, aye comrade
tell someone who gives a fuck what school people go to 
Because socialism is for other peoples kids innit bruv"
It's called champagne socialism, 'do as I say and not as I do'. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that.
Being objective, Corbyn has shown improvements in his media performances (with the main recent exception of the sky news one where he walked into the IRA trap). A manifesto promising to spend other people's money is always going to find support with a certain section of society. But you don't seem to be giving much weight to the absolutely dreadful performances of key cabinet people like dianne abbott and john MacDonell.
If you seriously think it's 50/50 then you should be placing every penny you can get your hands on and going down the bookies because the odds certainly state that the market does not believe it is that close.
There is also the equally dreadful Emily Thornberry factor who said Trident could be scrapped by Labour after a defence review should Labour win, even though it's in the Labour manifesto to keep trident. The Labour defence secretary had to smack Thornberry down, Labour are a divided party on Trident and Brexit and divided parties don't win elections.
I thought paxman was a bit of a knob trying to have a good at corbyn for failing to get scrapping trident into the manifesto. The unions run Labour, not corbyn. Corbyn is finally getting a taste of the real world of leadership where his principles count for jack shit and he'll be no different to nick clegg and his tuition fees when the time comes. If it comes.
We already know Corbyn is a sell out when it comes to his principles. He opposed the EU his whole career then backed the Remain campaign as soon as he becomes Labour leader. He is a snivelling spineless sell out who I wouldn't trust to negotiate his way out of a paper bag never mind Brexit. "
Lol. You are hilarious. You do know that you have just described exactly what May did? She repeatedly stated we would be better in the EU, now is leaving the charge to leave.
-Matt |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that.
Being objective, Corbyn has shown improvements in his media performances (with the main recent exception of the sky news one where he walked into the IRA trap). A manifesto promising to spend other people's money is always going to find support with a certain section of society. But you don't seem to be giving much weight to the absolutely dreadful performances of key cabinet people like dianne abbott and john MacDonell.
If you seriously think it's 50/50 then you should be placing every penny you can get your hands on and going down the bookies because the odds certainly state that the market does not believe it is that close.
There is also the equally dreadful Emily Thornberry factor who said Trident could be scrapped by Labour after a defence review should Labour win, even though it's in the Labour manifesto to keep trident. The Labour defence secretary had to smack Thornberry down, Labour are a divided party on Trident and Brexit and divided parties don't win elections.
I thought paxman was a bit of a knob trying to have a good at corbyn for failing to get scrapping trident into the manifesto. The unions run Labour, not corbyn. Corbyn is finally getting a taste of the real world of leadership where his principles count for jack shit and he'll be no different to nick clegg and his tuition fees when the time comes. If it comes.
We already know Corbyn is a sell out when it comes to his principles. He opposed the EU his whole career then backed the Remain campaign as soon as he becomes Labour leader. He is a snivelling spineless sell out who I wouldn't trust to negotiate his way out of a paper bag never mind Brexit. "
as opposed to may who voted remain?....as opposed to may who say no general elections?...as opposed to the woman who saI'd no deal is better than a bad deal ...then said we need to be careful as a no deal will have catastrophic consequences?....as opposed to the women who is too scared to debate the rest of the leaders? |
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If by some miracle Corbyn did get into power, how long before the strikes start and McClusky (or whatever his name is) tries to hold the country to ransom? A month? 2? Anyone? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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This pretty much sums up every encounter I've seen with May and reporters:
http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/three-minutes-of-nothing-herald-reporter-reflects-on-pm-encounter/story-30363961-detail/story.html
The last few paras are priceless:
"She had and given me absolutely nothing. It was like a postmodern version of Radio 4's Just A Minute.
I pictured Nicholas Parsons in the chair: "The next topic is how Plymouth will be affected by Brexit, military cuts and transport meltdown. Theresa, you have three minutes to talk without clarity, candour or transparency. Your time starts now."
-Matt |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"If by some miracle Corbyn did get into power, how long before the strikes start and McClusky (or whatever his name is) tries to hold the country to ransom? A month? 2? Anyone?"
Strikes? You mean like the numerous rail strikes we've had in the past few years? Or the various NHS strikes we've had directly against the ludicrous plans of the Tories to break the NHS?
I dunno, my gut feeling is having someone like Corbyn who actually seems to have some empathy for some of these people might prevent the strikes in the first place.
-Matt |
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"If by some miracle Corbyn did get into power, how long before the strikes start and McClusky (or whatever his name is) tries to hold the country to ransom? A month? 2? Anyone?
Strikes? You mean like the numerous rail strikes we've had in the past few years? Or the various NHS strikes we've had directly against the ludicrous plans of the Tories to break the NHS?
I dunno, my gut feeling is having someone like Corbyn who actually seems to have some empathy for some of these people might prevent the strikes in the first place.
-Matt"
Whilst we do need to hurry up and automate the fuck out of the train drivers, the level of strikes recently is nothing like the 70's |
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The same can be said about the intelligence of the brexiters if they should use this forum, as I wonder what they are smoking to believe in their fantasy eutopia lol. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
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"If by some miracle Corbyn did get into power, how long before the strikes start and McClusky (or whatever his name is) tries to hold the country to ransom? A month? 2? Anyone?
Strikes? You mean like the numerous rail strikes we've had in the past few years? Or the various NHS strikes we've had directly against the ludicrous plans of the Tories to break the NHS?
I dunno, my gut feeling is having someone like Corbyn who actually seems to have some empathy for some of these people might prevent the strikes in the first place.
-Matt
Whilst we do need to hurry up and automate the fuck out of the train drivers, the level of strikes recently is nothing like the 70's"
Well to be fair, we appear to have automated our PM and replaced her with an android. People are only just starting to notice now that they are asking her questions not in her programming.
-Matt |
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"Well to be fair, we appear to have automated our PM and replaced her with an android. People are only just starting to notice now that they are asking her questions not in her programming.
-Matt"
and not a T1000 terminator neither .... more of a Marvin the paranoid android ... with a brain the size of a lentil instead of a planet |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
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She now appears to be pissing off her own candidates:
“It’s a completely different experience to what it was four weeks ago. It’s made my job a hell of a lot harder. It’s a completely different experience. I’m pretty fucked off.
“People on the doorstep are telling me: ‘She’s going after pensioners, she doesn’t know what she’s doing, she doesn’t answer questions on the TV.’ I’ve switched from saying ‘vote for her’ to ‘vote for me’. It’s hard to understand how people in London who get paid a lot of money made such a clusterfuck."
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_592ecc58e4b0540ffc834f06
"If you were going to write what not to do in a campaign then running it on strong and stable leadership and changing your mind on everything would be it. It’s like something out of Yes Minister." |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that.
Being objective, Corbyn has shown improvements in his media performances (with the main recent exception of the sky news one where he walked into the IRA trap). A manifesto promising to spend other people's money is always going to find support with a certain section of society. But you don't seem to be giving much weight to the absolutely dreadful performances of key cabinet people like dianne abbott and john MacDonell.
If you seriously think it's 50/50 then you should be placing every penny you can get your hands on and going down the bookies because the odds certainly state that the market does not believe it is that close.
There is also the equally dreadful Emily Thornberry factor who said Trident could be scrapped by Labour after a defence review should Labour win, even though it's in the Labour manifesto to keep trident. The Labour defence secretary had to smack Thornberry down, Labour are a divided party on Trident and Brexit and divided parties don't win elections.
I thought paxman was a bit of a knob trying to have a good at corbyn for failing to get scrapping trident into the manifesto. The unions run Labour, not corbyn. Corbyn is finally getting a taste of the real world of leadership where his principles count for jack shit and he'll be no different to nick clegg and his tuition fees when the time comes. If it comes.
We already know Corbyn is a sell out when it comes to his principles. He opposed the EU his whole career then backed the Remain campaign as soon as he becomes Labour leader. He is a snivelling spineless sell out who I wouldn't trust to negotiate his way out of a paper bag never mind Brexit.
Lol. You are hilarious. You do know that you have just described exactly what May did? She repeatedly stated we would be better in the EU, now is leaving the charge to leave.
-Matt"
Repeatedly? Theresa May was pretty much invisible during the EU referendum campaign, i think she made one appearance on the Andrew Marr show and that was about the entire contribution of hers to the Remain campaign. There is a key difference which you don't seem to have spotted. Theresa May has not been blowing the EU's trumpet and singing its praises for the last 30 to 40 years and saying how brilliant it all is, in comparison to Corbyn who went out of his way to paint himself as an anti EU figure for pretty much his whole career. He also ran his labour leadership campaign slamming the EU and saying how corrupt it was. Corbyn made his name on an anti EU ticket.
Theresa May on the other hand had been opposing the EU for several years as home secretary fighting the European courts to get terrorists and other criminals deported. |
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"She now appears to be pissing off her own candidates:
“It’s a completely different experience to what it was four weeks ago. It’s made my job a hell of a lot harder. It’s a completely different experience. I’m pretty fucked off.
“People on the doorstep are telling me: ‘She’s going after pensioners, she doesn’t know what she’s doing, she doesn’t answer questions on the TV.’ I’ve switched from saying ‘vote for her’ to ‘vote for me’. It’s hard to understand how people in London who get paid a lot of money made such a clusterfuck."
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_592ecc58e4b0540ffc834f06
"If you were going to write what not to do in a campaign then running it on strong and stable leadership and changing your mind on everything would be it. It’s like something out of Yes Minister.""
Going after pensioners!? That's the response to her being honest about a financial problem. I seriously hope there aren't that many voters who still believe in the money tree that can solve all their problems. |
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"She now appears to be pissing off her own candidates:
“It’s a completely different experience to what it was four weeks ago. It’s made my job a hell of a lot harder. It’s a completely different experience. I’m pretty fucked off.
“People on the doorstep are telling me: ‘She’s going after pensioners, she doesn’t know what she’s doing, she doesn’t answer questions on the TV.’ I’ve switched from saying ‘vote for her’ to ‘vote for me’. It’s hard to understand how people in London who get paid a lot of money made such a clusterfuck."
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_592ecc58e4b0540ffc834f06
"If you were going to write what not to do in a campaign then running it on strong and stable leadership and changing your mind on everything would be it. It’s like something out of Yes Minister.""
.... she's pissing off the whole party .... and they'll surely knife her for it |
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"She now appears to be pissing off her own candidates:
“It’s a completely different experience to what it was four weeks ago. It’s made my job a hell of a lot harder. It’s a completely different experience. I’m pretty fucked off.
“People on the doorstep are telling me: ‘She’s going after pensioners, she doesn’t know what she’s doing, she doesn’t answer questions on the TV.’ I’ve switched from saying ‘vote for her’ to ‘vote for me’. It’s hard to understand how people in London who get paid a lot of money made such a clusterfuck."
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_592ecc58e4b0540ffc834f06
"If you were going to write what not to do in a campaign then running it on strong and stable leadership and changing your mind on everything would be it. It’s like something out of Yes Minister."
.... she's pissing off the whole party .... and they'll surely knife her for it"
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"The traditional polls are still giving Theresa May and the tories and healthy majority. There is only 1 poll saying hung Parliament and this in a new Yougov poll using a new untested and controversial polling method which has huge margins of error. I think the people constantly parroting this poll now really are clutching at straws. "
not an outlier anymore..... two traditional polls out in the more.... and in both the conservative lead is down to 5% in one... and 3% in the other....
just admit it.... wee bit scared now aren't you.... just a little.... |
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"The traditional polls are still giving Theresa May and the tories and healthy majority. There is only 1 poll saying hung Parliament and this in a new Yougov poll using a new untested and controversial polling method which has huge margins of error. I think the people constantly parroting this poll now really are clutching at straws.
not an outlier anymore..... two traditional polls out in the more.... and in both the conservative lead is down to 5% in one... and 3% in the other....
just admit it.... wee bit scared now aren't you.... just a little.... "
Certainly getting closer....but the same polls had a hung parliament last time...and not even with Tories as largest party.
I remember staying up watching the election results..... exit polls started to show Torres as largest party was met by misbelief. Still waiting for Paddy Ashdown to eat his hat!
Then when actual results started coming in and a Tory majority started to show people still couldn't believe it....
They massively underestimated the Tory vote. Not saying it will happen again....but I'm not counting my chickens yet! |
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"The traditional polls are still giving Theresa May and the tories and healthy majority. There is only 1 poll saying hung Parliament and this in a new Yougov poll using a new untested and controversial polling method which has huge margins of error. I think the people constantly parroting this poll now really are clutching at straws.
not an outlier anymore..... two traditional polls out in the more.... and in both the conservative lead is down to 5% in one... and 3% in the other....
just admit it.... wee bit scared now aren't you.... just a little.... "
Not really, if the something-for-nothing crowd are big enough to wreck this country then i'll move my personal wealth to another country whilst they will be living in the greek economy 2.0
Fortunately i dont think the majority of voters are so stupid to look to the tooth fairy to fund their lifestlyes. |
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"The traditional polls are still giving Theresa May and the tories and healthy majority. There is only 1 poll saying hung Parliament and this in a new Yougov poll using a new untested and controversial polling method which has huge margins of error. I think the people constantly parroting this poll now really are clutching at straws.
not an outlier anymore..... two traditional polls out in the more.... and in both the conservative lead is down to 5% in one... and 3% in the other....
just admit it.... wee bit scared now aren't you.... just a little....
Certainly getting closer....but the same polls had a hung parliament last time...and not even with Tories as largest party.
I remember staying up watching the election results..... exit polls started to show Torres as largest party was met by misbelief. Still waiting for Paddy Ashdown to eat his hat!
Then when actual results started coming in and a Tory majority started to show people still couldn't believe it....
They massively underestimated the Tory vote. Not saying it will happen again....but I'm not counting my chickens yet!"
They always massively underestimate the Tory vote cos people don't like admitting that they vote for "The Nasty Party". |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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The Conservatives are wholly reliant on former UKIP voters and this is why PM May keeps saying that this election is all about Brexit.
She knows that Kippers can almost smell their imagined Utopia and she knows that they also (wrongly) think that Brexit is a magic bullet that will solve all our country's problems. For this reason, she is playing to the Kippers who really could not give a shit about anything in the world other than Brexit.
The spanner in the works is going to be if a large enough percentage of Kippers are not as dim and small minded as many have made them out to be. It will only take a few to start thinking and realising that the future is not about how we trade with our close neighbours, but the sort of country that we want to live in. |
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"Come on now..don't upset them...their still trying to get over Brexit and T rump.
I wanted brexit and I wanted trump to win over hillary.
but on this election I am all labour.
And a month ago I would have said they had zero chance but now I think its going to be close and im very much 50/50 that it could go either way...
so try not get overly cocky like some of the hilary supporters did and ended up with egg on their face as come the 8th of june that could be one of you.
corybn has led a far far better election campaign than may and that is fact and the narrowing of polls and corbyns raise in popularity proves that.
Being objective, Corbyn has shown improvements in his media performances (with the main recent exception of the sky news one where he walked into the IRA trap). A manifesto promising to spend other people's money is always going to find support with a certain section of society. But you don't seem to be giving much weight to the absolutely dreadful performances of key cabinet people like dianne abbott and john MacDonell.
If you seriously think it's 50/50 then you should be placing every penny you can get your hands on and going down the bookies because the odds certainly state that the market does not believe it is that close.
There is also the equally dreadful Emily Thornberry factor who said Trident could be scrapped by Labour after a defence review should Labour win, even though it's in the Labour manifesto to keep trident. The Labour defence secretary had to smack Thornberry down, Labour are a divided party on Trident and Brexit and divided parties don't win elections.
I thought paxman was a bit of a knob trying to have a good at corbyn for failing to get scrapping trident into the manifesto. The unions run Labour, not corbyn. Corbyn is finally getting a taste of the real world of leadership where his principles count for jack shit and he'll be no different to nick clegg and his tuition fees when the time comes. If it comes.
We already know Corbyn is a sell out when it comes to his principles. He opposed the EU his whole career then backed the Remain campaign as soon as he becomes Labour leader. He is a snivelling spineless sell out who I wouldn't trust to negotiate his way out of a paper bag never mind Brexit. "
Like our Remain voting PM or our remain voting Home Secretary or our remain voting Chancellor....principled one and all |
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Tbf, everyone thought brexit wouldn't happen.. but here we are!
Hopefully the same will happen at the election too.. I can't believe that anyone doesn't see that it's time for a different approach |
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"Tbf, everyone thought brexit wouldn't happen.. but here we are!
Hopefully the same will happen at the election too.. I can't believe that anyone doesn't see that it's time for a different approach"
But its not a different approach, its been tried before and failed |
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"Tbf, everyone thought brexit wouldn't happen.. but here we are!
Hopefully the same will happen at the election too.. I can't believe that anyone doesn't see that it's time for a different approach
But its not a different approach, its been tried before and failed"
Yup, the 70's. Worst peace time decade since the black death. |
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More seriously though.
The Tories campaign has been a disaster. I still think they will win, god forbid the alternative, but whoever is responsible for the manifesto/campaign should never be allowed anywhere near politics again.
Should Corbyn actually win then they should be locked up in the Tower and the bloody key chucked in the Thames. |
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"Tbf, everyone thought brexit wouldn't happen.. but here we are!
Hopefully the same will happen at the election too.. I can't believe that anyone doesn't see that it's time for a different approach
But its not a different approach, its been tried before and failed
Yup, the 70's. Worst peace time decade since the black death. "
The brexiters and their retrotopia vision of Britain is much much worse than the anything the 70s had to offer .
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