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"Arrest any person preaching hatred,posting it on line,or trying to defend or justify acts of terrorism, deport them if possible, if not lock them up and throw away the key," That would see a few members not posting any more. | |||
"I thought this thread was going to be about Katie Hopkins' tweet. " That would be "final solution", what a stupid girl she is. | |||
"I thought this thread was going to be about Katie Hopkins' tweet. " No ! I simply wondered if any one had any god constructive ideas ! It beats me I'm afraid  | |||
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"Round up all returning jihadists....put them on a plane and kick them out of the doors over Assad territory with a parachute on their back.........can't imagine any of those cowards would deploy." Hmmmm I quite like that  just not sure about giving them parachutes  | |||
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"I thought this thread was going to be about Katie Hopkins' tweet. " She's a pantomime villainess .. no one takes her seriously. Stirring up controversy to court attention is her game. Muslims act like Nazis to cultural minorities in nations controlled by them though.. ironically. | |||
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"Well for starter's organisations such as twitter, Facebook etc.. Need to be held accountable for allowing people to converse and share anything that could be seen as propaganda and fuel for radicalisation. TV and radio networks not plastering the airways with 24/7 coverage of every horrendous act. This in my humble opinion gives them a good reason for starters, they know that they will get the publicity they want. Schools, colleges and universities need to be more proactive in deterring radicalisation. And most importantly the reintroduction of community policing, better funding for police officers to be out and about in the community, bring back the Bobby on the beat. The presence in the street, re open local police stations. A more diverse police force from lots of religious and ethnic backgrounds. For starters. " Well, nice idea in theory, but where do you draw the line? Members on here have posted links to videos of known right wing extremists. How responsible should Fab be to police them? -Matt | |||
"Well for starter's organisations such as twitter, Facebook etc.. Need to be held accountable for allowing people to converse and share anything that could be seen as propaganda and fuel for radicalisation. TV and radio networks not plastering the airways with 24/7 coverage of every horrendous act. This in my humble opinion gives them a good reason for starters, they know that they will get the publicity they want. Schools, colleges and universities need to be more proactive in deterring radicalisation. And most importantly the reintroduction of community policing, better funding for police officers to be out and about in the community, bring back the Bobby on the beat. The presence in the street, re open local police stations. A more diverse police force from lots of religious and ethnic backgrounds. For starters. " There has been a long term push to increase police recruitment from ethnic groups......with very little success. Read into that what you may. | |||
"I thought this thread was going to be about Katie Hopkins' tweet. " she is now a classic example of "more money than sense" you would have thought that after blowing 150K of the daily mail's money, then blowing 100K of her own money that she would have learnt something..... or maybe she is now going for the tri-fecta of being charged with some sort of incitement related crime..... | |||
"I thought this thread was going to be about Katie Hopkins' tweet. she is now a classic example of "more money than sense" you would have thought that after blowing 150K of the daily mail's money, then blowing 100K of her own money that she would have learnt something..... or maybe she is now going for the tri-fecta of being charged with some sort of incitement related crime....." She may have made a profit off the back of the libel case though. Even posters on here said they would fund her Kickstarter. A hate crime conviction though might makr it harder for her to travel and work abroad. | |||
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"A thread which asks for ideas for a solution to ISIS terrorism? Ends up focusing on Katie Hopkins No solution to be found here then! " The katie hopkins threat level has been raised from public irritant to toxic shit fountain.  | |||
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"There is no real humanitarian solution to the likes of IS because the number one in thier doctrine is death to all of the Kufar! End of, no discussion no compromise that's it!!!" Can you get rid of an idea? | |||
"There is no real humanitarian solution to the likes of IS because the number one in thier doctrine is death to all of the Kufar! End of, no discussion no compromise that's it!!! Can you get rid of an idea?" Yes you can .You replace it with another idea.We've been doing this since the dawn of civilization. You can't however bomb ideas or kill them. | |||
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"There is no real humanitarian solution to the likes of IS because the number one in thier doctrine is death to all of the Kufar! End of, no discussion no compromise that's it!!! Can you get rid of an idea? Yes you can .You replace it with another idea.We've been doing this since the dawn of civilization. You can't however bomb ideas or kill them." Exactly. Which is why I asked it. It's not genetics it's thought and belief. Bombing may create nore seeds in that thought. | |||
"The solution is to reduce inequality, be that in finances, opportunities, politics etc." this..happy people don't blow themselves the key is easier to brain wash someone to do something awful to people if they already hate those people lack or opportunities hate speech the media all play a part in radicalising these people | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world " exactly  I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it ! | |||
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"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !"Yes & no. It isn't just their view on their own religon and the rest of the world though, there's other factors that are major contributors. The West have treated the East like shit since civilization began. We still do it now trying to impose our values and traditions on them ,trying to dispose of their leaders if we don't like them, reduce their Countries to ruin if needed to teach them a lesson. We've been party or our allies have to bombing hospitals, schools, humanitarian convoys, weddings, funerals, maiming and killing thousands & thousands of innocent men, women, children and babies, and when the odd time our media actually reports it we call it collateral damage. It's worth it as long as they might do what we want in the end eh? The hatred against us now is the price we are paying for our "foreign policy" from the last 1000 years. Ever notice how we only pick on a Eastern Asian countries that cannot really fight back, and we're the unfortunate ones when we get hit back. | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !"What are the political aims of ISIS? | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
Yes & no.
It isn't just their view on their own religon and the rest of the world though, there's other factors that are major contributors.
The West have treated the East like shit since civilization began.
We still do it now trying to impose our values and traditions on them ,trying to dispose of their leaders if we don't like them, reduce their Countries to ruin if needed to teach them a lesson.
We've been party or our allies have to bombing hospitals, schools, humanitarian convoys, weddings, funerals, maiming and killing thousands & thousands of innocent men, women, children and babies, and when the odd time our media actually reports it we call it collateral damage. It's worth it as long as they might do what we want in the end eh?
The hatred against us now is the price we are paying for our "foreign policy" from the last 1000 years.
Ever notice how we only pick on a Eastern Asian countries that cannot really fight back, and we're the unfortunate ones when we get hit back.
"Indeed. As someone elsewhere commented, what do you think would happen if Syria carried out air strikes on Washington DC due to the US government poisoning the people of Flint, Michigan? Sounds absurd right? But that is basically the equivalent of what's going on now with the roles reversed. -Matt | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
What are the political aims of ISIS?"total world domination of thier version of islam if that cannot be achieved then a callifait controling the whole of northafrica and the middle east along the same lines .zero tolerance of any other form of islam or any other religion basicly take anywhere that falls under thier control back to medieval times | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
What are the political aims of ISIS?"To kill you. Unless you believe the same shit | |||
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"So it's the Wests foreign policy for the last 1000 yrs which as created there hatred of us " Yes " and if we washed our hands of them all together left them to it no overseas aid didn't buy there oil do u think then they may come to love us then ? " No. Although stopping selling arms to the area would be helpful. | |||
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" The biggest driving force for committing acts of terroism is the instilling of fear & terror after the event. That requires the media and nothing else can ramp up the fear and terror than media outlets printing / headlining TERROR ATTACKS , PEOPLE FEAR FOR THEIR LIVES, HORROR , SLAUGHTER etc etc etc... I know it will never happen but if the media only did a small report and not the wholesale fanfare screaming from the rooftops about us in the grip of terror then I think we'd rather quickly start to remove a very substantial part of the terrorists reason for committing such acts if they didn't get the media attention that feeds the terror to us." Agreed I'm not saying don't report terror attacks but this 24/7 media blitz on Manchester doesn't help anyone. | |||
"The solution is to reduce inequality, be that in finances, opportunities, politics etc." The assailant was from a relatively advantaged background with every resource and opportunity.. The CULTure his parents imposed upon him and filled his head with was the seed that grew and resulted in the events. It's laughable, so many deflective digs at the west but no acknowledgement of cultural factors that nurtured and ultimately causes certain individuals to go on and commit such crimes.. Muslims seem incredibly cute at using political correctness to silence critique, I had to bite my lip recently to prevent hysterical laughter after a "British" Pakistani Muslim used the term "uncle Tom" to describe Muslims who strive to fit in and contribute.. Muslims are the BIGGEST killers and enslavers of black people in history, yet he has the audacity to appropriate and use such a term! The CULTure is poison. Stop indulging mouthy malcontents who make no effort to integrate or contribute , send them somewhere more suited to their outlooks. Ultimately they become a liability and go on to do harm. | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
What are the political aims of ISIS?total world domination of thier version of islam if that cannot be achieved then a callifait controling the whole of northafrica and the middle east along the same lines .zero tolerance of any other form of islam or any other religion basicly take anywhere that falls under thier control back to medieval times "Also death to gays or anyone in the LBGT community, death to all non believers, atheists and people who don't have any religion. Complete abolition of democracy or any form of democratic process in electing/choosing rulers. Women to be subjugated and turned into 2nd class citizens, with fewer rights than men. Education of female children to be abolished. They are nothing more than a backwards death cult and they worship and celebrate death instead of life. | |||
" Also death to gays or anyone in the LBGT community, death to all non believers, atheists and people who don't have any religion. Complete abolition of democracy or any form of democratic process in electing/choosing rulers. Women to be subjugated and turned into 2nd class citizens, with fewer rights than men. Education of female children to be abolished. They are nothing more than a backwards death cult and they worship and celebrate death instead of life. " Welcome to our manifesto , Vote UKIP | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
What are the political aims of ISIS?total world domination of thier version of islam if that cannot be achieved then a callifait controling the whole of northafrica and the middle east along the same lines .zero tolerance of any other form of islam or any other religion basicly take anywhere that falls under thier control back to medieval times
Also death to gays or anyone in the LBGT community, death to all non believers, atheists and people who don't have any religion. Complete abolition of democracy or any form of democratic process in electing/choosing rulers. Women to be subjugated and turned into 2nd class citizens, with fewer rights than men. Education of female children to be abolished. They are nothing more than a backwards death cult and they worship and celebrate death instead of life. "Did you see question time earlier? The audience was full of Muslims! One man complained his daughter was getting "dirty looks" on a train.. 22 people have been horrificly murdered and he complains about "dirty looks"?! Is anyone trying to decapitate him or his daughter or blow either of them up as is the custom within his culture toward dissenters or critics?! If only those 22 murder victims had the luxury to be offended by "dirty looks"! Duh.. you're getting dirty looks, you walk around in a triumphanalist manner expecting unwavering reverence after your "pure" religion spawns another atrocity? Some appear to be vile and entitled beyond belief. | |||
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"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
What are the political aims of ISIS?total world domination of thier version of islam if that cannot be achieved then a callifait controling the whole of northafrica and the middle east along the same lines .zero tolerance of any other form of islam or any other religion basicly take anywhere that falls under thier control back to medieval times
Also death to gays or anyone in the LBGT community, death to all non believers, atheists and people who don't have any religion. Complete abolition of democracy or any form of democratic process in electing/choosing rulers. Women to be subjugated and turned into 2nd class citizens, with fewer rights than men. Education of female children to be abolished. They are nothing more than a backwards death cult and they worship and celebrate death instead of life.
Did you see question time earlier?
The audience was full of Muslims!
One man complained his daughter was getting "dirty looks" on a train..
22 people have been horrificly murdered and he complains about "dirty looks"?!
Is anyone trying to decapitate him or his daughter or blow either of them up as is the custom within his culture toward dissenters or critics?!
If only those 22 murder victims had the luxury to be offended by "dirty looks"!
Duh.. you're getting dirty looks, you walk around in a triumphanalist manner expecting unwavering reverence after your "pure" religion spawns another atrocity?
Some appear to be vile and entitled beyond belief."It was a stitch up. One of the Muslims in the audience is quite infamous now. Vids of the cunt all over YouTube in various BBC audiences and interviews. One he was behind a Sikh guy and started pulling faces when the Sikh said the Arab conquests of India were worse than the British. This fat dick isn't even Arab. | |||
"Like Nazis IS needs to be stopped no question. Those already engaged in thier genecidal activaty are fair game for what ever means neccesary. But if we are to stop this war from going on and on we need to address the legitamate (not all are legitamate) grevances of people who are otherwise the new recruits of this war. Starving the enemy of those recruits will end the war. Justice for ALL people will bring justice for the 22." Agreed. At this point the Western world could declare war on IS and if we were happy to accept heavily civilian casualties we would wipe the majority out. However IS is a theological offshoot of islam and you cannot kill that. Only educate against it, and make it a dirty idea, much like race supremecy is today. I'd say that the first things to be done should be that the government must increase spending and resources to the police and counter terrorism units. In addition get rid off all faith schools, regardless of faith. Have muslims who wish to reform islam write a new quaran much like christians did in their latter history. Teach the history of IS alongside the history of The second world war and the Nazis and the communists so children and teenages can make clear comparrisons. Another point would be to cut ties with the Saudi's. Then of course, if you look at where many islamists originate from in this nation, these are deprived neighbourhoods where oppertunities are low and mental health issues are high. Tackle those issues and youve probably won a third of the battle. A healthy and busy mind a healthy one. | |||
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""Total war" would work.You just need the stomach for it." Yeah tbh I just view that option as kicking the can down the street, high cost in money and life for radicalisation and resentment further down the line. People don't like long term plans because the results take a long time to take effect. But a ideological cult requires a long term solution. | |||
""Total war" would work.You just need the stomach for it. Yeah tbh I just view that option as kicking the can down the street, high cost in money and life for radicalisation and resentment further down the line. People don't like long term plans because the results take a long time to take effect. But a ideological cult requires a long term solution." Theres no point in killing all the jihadists if their sons will replace them.You have to wipe them all out and start a new.but it requires the stomach for it. | |||
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"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs?" Im an atheist i dont need to speak up.Ask a Christian. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs?" I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. " In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs?" Who killed them? ISIS? You feel as though not enough people are condemning ISIS? | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. " That you are now using as a political football against remainers?  | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. " Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians?" We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. | |||
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"Part of the solution is surely to have the resources available to monitor potential suspects effectively. Turns out that at least two people called the radicalisation hotline about him. Muslim community leaders reported him also. " That is a lot of resource. There are about 3,000 on that list. BBC quoted something like 16,000 who were linked to the list. | |||
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"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not." So immigration caused the killing of the Coptic Christians in Egypt? | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. " A minority did so yes but most responses were in relation to the fact that the guy was an ultra right wing extremist and some of those on the right were denying it had anything to do with that politic.. As usual it ended up being a shout down .. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. So immigration caused the killing of the Coptic Christians in Egypt? " No that was just Islam that caused that. Immigration causes terrorism in this country though. That nail bomber was a second generation muslim immigrant. I'm fourth gen. | |||
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"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. So immigration caused the killing of the Coptic Christians in Egypt? No that was just Islam that caused that. Immigration causes terrorism in this country though. That nail bomber was a second generation muslim immigrant. I'm fourth gen. " Oh OK. So when you said the left needs to speak out against this attack, and then you criticized the lefts attitude to immigration, there was no link there. Do you have a reason why the left in particular needs to condemn this attack, or is just because you think all lefties love Daesh or something? | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not." We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. | |||
"Though, unlike Muslims my family were eager to become Scottish." I thought you were eager to become a settler in israel and leave this Muslim infected shit hole.. | |||
"Though, unlike Muslims my family were eager to become Scottish. I thought you were eager to become a settler in israel and leave this Muslim infected shit hole.. "Just to check are YOU saying this a" Muslim infested shit hole"? Or saying some one else is? | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. " We aren't a generation of immigrants. Not at all, in fact most productive descend directly from the same group of post ice-age settlers. Immigrants are defined as aliens entering an already established culture. Settlers are the ones who form the culture. My mum's family were refugees. How many Muslim take out culture as their own? Stark difference to my family. Jews in kilts. We assimilated Now immigrants refuse to. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNY7smT_9QbSDRwUnVWa0NlWGM/view?usp=drivesdk | |||
"Though, unlike Muslims my family were eager to become Scottish. I thought you were eager to become a settler in israel and leave this Muslim infected shit hole.. "I am. It takes some time though. The nation was quite a different place back then | |||
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"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. We aren't a generation of immigrants. Not at all, in fact most productive descend directly from the same group of post ice-age settlers. Immigrants are defined as aliens entering an already established culture. Settlers are the ones who form the culture. My mum's family were refugees. How many Muslim take out culture as their own? Stark difference to my family. Jews in kilts. We assimilated Now immigrants refuse to. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNY7smT_9QbSDRwUnVWa0NlWGM/view?usp=drivesdk " A group of Muslims in Scotland have designed and registered and Islamic tartan. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. We aren't a generation of immigrants. Not at all, in fact most productive descend directly from the same group of post ice-age settlers. Immigrants are defined as aliens entering an already established culture. Settlers are the ones who form the culture. My mum's family were refugees. How many Muslim take out culture as their own? Stark difference to my family. Jews in kilts. We assimilated Now immigrants refuse to. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNY7smT_9QbSDRwUnVWa0NlWGM/view?usp=drivesdk " Bs usual you are so blinded by the hate you have deep in you that you are unwilling to accept the truth about this country.. We have assimilated people from pretty much every part of the globe and that has been going on for hundreds of years.. Not saying it's all been plain sailing initially but once most decent people have realised they have more in common with each other than what divides them they just get on with it.. Your carrying your bile about and the only person it will damage is you.. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. We aren't a generation of immigrants. Not at all, in fact most productive descend directly from the same group of post ice-age settlers. Immigrants are defined as aliens entering an already established culture. Settlers are the ones who form the culture. My mum's family were refugees. How many Muslim take out culture as their own? Stark difference to my family. Jews in kilts. We assimilated Now immigrants refuse to. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNY7smT_9QbSDRwUnVWa0NlWGM/view?usp=drivesdk Bs usual you are so blinded by the hate you have deep in you that you are unwilling to accept the truth about this country.. We have assimilated people from pretty much every part of the globe and that has been going on for hundreds of years.. Not saying it's all been plain sailing initially but once most decent people have realised they have more in common with each other than what divides them they just get on with it.. Your carrying your bile about and the only person it will damage is you.. " We are not a nation of immigrants. That is a leftist trope not rooted in reality. According to Professor Bryan Sykes of Oxford's Wolfson College "The genetic makeup of Britain and Ireland is overwhelmingly what it has been since the Neolithic period and to a very considerable extent since the Mesolithic period, especially in the female line, i.e. those people, who in time would become identified as British Celts" You apathy to Islamic terror is almost as terrifying. La la land. | |||
"Though, unlike Muslims my family were eager to become Scottish. I thought you were eager to become a settler in israel and leave this Muslim infected shit hole..
I am. It takes some time though.
The nation was quite a different place back then"Yeah lot of background checks to many plastc jews from Russia created a problem for the genuine ones. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. We aren't a generation of immigrants. Not at all, in fact most productive descend directly from the same group of post ice-age settlers. Immigrants are defined as aliens entering an already established culture. Settlers are the ones who form the culture. My mum's family were refugees. How many Muslim take out culture as their own? Stark difference to my family. Jews in kilts. We assimilated Now immigrants refuse to. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNY7smT_9QbSDRwUnVWa0NlWGM/view?usp=drivesdk A group of Muslims in Scotland have designed and registered and Islamic tartan. "There needs to be a flaw in the design as only Allah is perfect. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. We aren't a generation of immigrants. Not at all, in fact most productive descend directly from the same group of post ice-age settlers. Immigrants are defined as aliens entering an already established culture. Settlers are the ones who form the culture. My mum's family were refugees. How many Muslim take out culture as their own? Stark difference to my family. Jews in kilts. We assimilated Now immigrants refuse to. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNY7smT_9QbSDRwUnVWa0NlWGM/view?usp=drivesdk A group of Muslims in Scotland have designed and registered and Islamic tartan.
There needs to be a flaw in the design as only Allah is perfect."True i see youve bought carpet in the bazaar before.. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. We aren't a generation of immigrants. Not at all, in fact most productive descend directly from the same group of post ice-age settlers. Immigrants are defined as aliens entering an already established culture. Settlers are the ones who form the culture. My mum's family were refugees. How many Muslim take out culture as their own? Stark difference to my family. Jews in kilts. We assimilated Now immigrants refuse to. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNY7smT_9QbSDRwUnVWa0NlWGM/view?usp=drivesdk Bs usual you are so blinded by the hate you have deep in you that you are unwilling to accept the truth about this country.. We have assimilated people from pretty much every part of the globe and that has been going on for hundreds of years.. Not saying it's all been plain sailing initially but once most decent people have realised they have more in common with each other than what divides them they just get on with it.. Your carrying your bile about and the only person it will damage is you.. We are not a nation of immigrants. That is a leftist trope not rooted in reality. According to Professor Bryan Sykes of Oxford's Wolfson College "The genetic makeup of Britain and Ireland is overwhelmingly what it has been since the Neolithic period and to a very considerable extent since the Mesolithic period, especially in the female line, i.e. those people, who in time would become identified as British Celts" You apathy to Islamic terror is almost as terrifying. La la land." Nowhere have I shown apathy to any terrorism.. I never differentiated between them in the troubles when serving over there.. What's terrifying is you are unable to see the difference between extremists who have distorted their faith and the vast majority who are just like you and i.. Actually they're just like I and others.. Your hatred for Muslims only shows that you are thinking and have said some worrying stuff on here in your previous profiles to boot on the same level that the terrorist's have done at some point in their journey.. Ironic in a sick type of way.. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. We aren't a generation of immigrants. Not at all, in fact most productive descend directly from the same group of post ice-age settlers. Immigrants are defined as aliens entering an already established culture. Settlers are the ones who form the culture. My mum's family were refugees. How many Muslim take out culture as their own? Stark difference to my family. Jews in kilts. We assimilated Now immigrants refuse to. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNY7smT_9QbSDRwUnVWa0NlWGM/view?usp=drivesdk Bs usual you are so blinded by the hate you have deep in you that you are unwilling to accept the truth about this country.. We have assimilated people from pretty much every part of the globe and that has been going on for hundreds of years.. Not saying it's all been plain sailing initially but once most decent people have realised they have more in common with each other than what divides them they just get on with it.. Your carrying your bile about and the only person it will damage is you.. We are not a nation of immigrants. That is a leftist trope not rooted in reality. According to Professor Bryan Sykes of Oxford's Wolfson College "The genetic makeup of Britain and Ireland is overwhelmingly what it has been since the Neolithic period and to a very considerable extent since the Mesolithic period, especially in the female line, i.e. those people, who in time would become identified as British Celts" You apathy to Islamic terror is almost as terrifying. La la land. Nowhere have I shown apathy to any terrorism.. I never differentiated between them in the troubles when serving over there.. What's terrifying is you are unable to see the difference between extremists who have distorted their faith and the vast majority who are just like you and i.. Actually they're just like I and others.. Your hatred for Muslims only shows that you are thinking and have said some worrying stuff on here in your previous profiles to boot on the same level that the terrorist's have done at some point in their journey.. Ironic in a sick type of way.. " I'm a terrorist? I have no desire to nail bomb children. I hate Islam. | |||
"Another attack on the Copts today. Could be as many as 30 dead. When are the left wingers going to speak up about the persecution of Christian in the middle East ffs? I'm sure the victims of this latest awful attack would be thrilled to be used as your political football. In the same way you and other Remainers on here used the death of Jo Cox during the EU referendum to try and make political capital out of it. The death of Jo Cox was used as a political football by the Remainers, no doubt about it. Classic Centaur, trying to make an issue about something else instead of debating the actual point. Given that Jo Cox was killed by someone who was violently against immigration, it's not exactly a stretch to note that we should be careful where anti immigration rhetoric can lead us. What is the link that is being made in the comment I'm criticising? What left wingers are supporting the murder of Christians? We've certain seen what pro-immigration views got us. Terrorists, cultural erosion and extreme competition in the unskilled labour market. The draw backs Anti-immigration views are hypothetical. The former is not. We are a nation of immigrants. I am half southern Irish as are my brothers and sisters.. You yourself said on one of your old profiles that your parents were refugees I think? Not all immigrants are low or semi skilled.. And speaking personally my own culture has been enhanced living and working both here and abroad.. We aren't a generation of immigrants. Not at all, in fact most productive descend directly from the same group of post ice-age settlers. Immigrants are defined as aliens entering an already established culture. Settlers are the ones who form the culture. My mum's family were refugees. How many Muslim take out culture as their own? Stark difference to my family. Jews in kilts. We assimilated Now immigrants refuse to. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwNY7smT_9QbSDRwUnVWa0NlWGM/view?usp=drivesdk Bs usual you are so blinded by the hate you have deep in you that you are unwilling to accept the truth about this country.. We have assimilated people from pretty much every part of the globe and that has been going on for hundreds of years.. Not saying it's all been plain sailing initially but once most decent people have realised they have more in common with each other than what divides them they just get on with it.. Your carrying your bile about and the only person it will damage is you.. We are not a nation of immigrants. That is a leftist trope not rooted in reality. According to Professor Bryan Sykes of Oxford's Wolfson College "The genetic makeup of Britain and Ireland is overwhelmingly what it has been since the Neolithic period and to a very considerable extent since the Mesolithic period, especially in the female line, i.e. those people, who in time would become identified as British Celts" You apathy to Islamic terror is almost as terrifying. La la land. Nowhere have I shown apathy to any terrorism.. I never differentiated between them in the troubles when serving over there.. What's terrifying is you are unable to see the difference between extremists who have distorted their faith and the vast majority who are just like you and i.. Actually they're just like I and others.. Your hatred for Muslims only shows that you are thinking and have said some worrying stuff on here in your previous profiles to boot on the same level that the terrorist's have done at some point in their journey.. Ironic in a sick type of way.. I'm a terrorist? I have no desire to nail bomb children. I hate Islam. " You're more a freedom fighter i would guess .Shame you cant join the IDF. .. | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
What are the political aims of ISIS?total world domination of thier version of islam if that cannot be achieved then a callifait controling the whole of northafrica and the middle east along the same lines .zero tolerance of any other form of islam or any other religion basicly take anywhere that falls under thier control back to medieval times
Also death to gays or anyone in the LBGT community, death to all non believers, atheists and people who don't have any religion. Complete abolition of democracy or any form of democratic process in electing/choosing rulers. Women to be subjugated and turned into 2nd class citizens, with fewer rights than men. Education of female children to be abolished. They are nothing more than a backwards death cult and they worship and celebrate death instead of life.
Did you see question time earlier?
The audience was full of Muslims!
One man complained his daughter was getting "dirty looks" on a train..
22 people have been horrificly murdered and he complains about "dirty looks"?!
Is anyone trying to decapitate him or his daughter or blow either of them up as is the custom within his culture toward dissenters or critics?!
If only those 22 murder victims had the luxury to be offended by "dirty looks"!
Duh.. you're getting dirty looks, you walk around in a triumphanalist manner expecting unwavering reverence after your "pure" religion spawns another atrocity?
Some appear to be vile and entitled beyond belief.
It was a stitch up. One of the Muslims in the audience is quite infamous now. Vids of the cunt all over YouTube in various BBC audiences and interviews. One he was behind a Sikh guy and started pulling faces when the Sikh said the Arab conquests of India were worse than the British. This fat dick isn't even Arab.
"Probably a pakistani (also ethnically Indian but stuck in the Stockholm Syndrome of their former enslavers.. the Arabs and the pernicious cancerous cult implanted there to ensure subservience). The Sikh wasn't exaggerating, Arabs commited mass genocide on the Indian subcontinent along with their brainwashed native followers,the British whether intending to or not saved many Hindus and Sikhs through their presence there. Isn't is strange how every religion on earth, even the most peaceful and passive when forced to live alongside followers of the Arab snuff cult become violent? Muslims ultimately seek to encroach upon, erode and domineer, Egypt was Coptic before the Arab conquests, what type of country is Egypt present day, how are it's native Coptic population treated? The less said about that, the better! The only solution is accepting Islam is irredeemable poison as a theology. All people have a capacity to be equally good or bad, when mentally poisoned with the schizophrenic homicidal ramblings of a 6th century conquest and snuff cult .. obviously that isnt going to produce a result worth preserving or defending . | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
Yes & no.
It isn't just their view on their own religon and the rest of the world though, there's other factors that are major contributors.
The West have treated the East like shit since civilization began.
We still do it now trying to impose our values and traditions on them ,trying to dispose of their leaders if we don't like them, reduce their Countries to ruin if needed to teach them a lesson.
We've been party or our allies have to bombing hospitals, schools, humanitarian convoys, weddings, funerals, maiming and killing thousands & thousands of innocent men, women, children and babies, and when the odd time our media actually reports it we call it collateral damage. It's worth it as long as they might do what we want in the end eh?
The hatred against us now is the price we are paying for our "foreign policy" from the last 1000 years.
Ever notice how we only pick on a Eastern Asian countries that cannot really fight back, and we're the unfortunate ones when we get hit back.
"What a complete and utter load of bollocks. I suggest you read up on American History, in particular the Barbary Wars. Not long after the United States of America was first formed America started to have problems with Islamic countries in the 1700's which lead to the First Barbary war in 1801 between the USA and the Barbary states. The Barbary States were 4 North African countries who were collectively known then as the Barbary States and they were Islamic Muslim countries, Tripoli (modern day Libya), Algiers, Tunis and Morocco. It was these Islamic Barbary states who started these wars on the newly formed USA, by raiding American ships and taking American citizens hostage in return for Ransom. If the Ransom was not paid then the hostages would either be kept as slaves or killed (sounds familiar to what is going on today with ISIS taking Western hostages and demanding ransom, otherwise they get beheaded?) It was the 3rd President of the United states Thomas Jefferson who had to deal with and confront this form of Islamic terrorism being inflicted on his newly formed USA by Muslim Pirates who were fully endorsed by the rulers of the Barbary States for their own enrichment through tribute or Ransom payments. In March 1786 Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy (acting on behalf of the Barbary states) and when Jefferson and Adams enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury" the Tripoli ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman replied :- "It is written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet (Mohammed) were Sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave, and that every Mussulman (Jihadi) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise." See here the cat is well and truly out of the bag, these Muslim countries openly attacked America because they believed it was their religious duty, and at this time America had done no harm what so ever to any Islamic or Muslim country. America at this time had no foreign policy towards any of these countries! Sidi Haji Abdrahaman went on..... "The man who was first to board an American vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every Muslim sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth, which usually struck such 'terror' into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once". Again letting the cat out of the bag this was an early form of Islamic terrorism back in the 1700's. After this meeting America continued to pay ransom's to the Barbary states up until 1801 when Thomas Jefferson became President. When he was President he refused to pay the Ransoms, and the Barbary State of Tripoli declared war on the USA for refusing to pay. This then lead to the First Barbary war (1801-1805) which America won and this was the first war in which America ever placed an American flag on foreign soil. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War So lets drop this bullshit falsehood that it is Western foreign policy which is driving terrorism (which Corbyn made the case for in his deluded speech today). As history clearly shows with events that lead to the Barbary wars, Western foreign policy has nothing to do with it. I suggest you, Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else with this view reads a few history books before spouting such nonsense. | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
What are the political aims of ISIS?total world domination of thier version of islam if that cannot be achieved then a callifait controling the whole of northafrica and the middle east along the same lines .zero tolerance of any other form of islam or any other religion basicly take anywhere that falls under thier control back to medieval times
Also death to gays or anyone in the LBGT community, death to all non believers, atheists and people who don't have any religion. Complete abolition of democracy or any form of democratic process in electing/choosing rulers. Women to be subjugated and turned into 2nd class citizens, with fewer rights than men. Education of female children to be abolished. They are nothing more than a backwards death cult and they worship and celebrate death instead of life.
Did you see question time earlier?
The audience was full of Muslims!
One man complained his daughter was getting "dirty looks" on a train..
22 people have been horrificly murdered and he complains about "dirty looks"?!
Is anyone trying to decapitate him or his daughter or blow either of them up as is the custom within his culture toward dissenters or critics?!
If only those 22 murder victims had the luxury to be offended by "dirty looks"!
Duh.. you're getting dirty looks, you walk around in a triumphanalist manner expecting unwavering reverence after your "pure" religion spawns another atrocity?
Some appear to be vile and entitled beyond belief.
It was a stitch up. One of the Muslims in the audience is quite infamous now. Vids of the cunt all over YouTube in various BBC audiences and interviews. One he was behind a Sikh guy and started pulling faces when the Sikh said the Arab conquests of India were worse than the British. This fat dick isn't even Arab.
Probably a pakistani (also ethnically Indian but stuck in the Stockholm Syndrome of their former enslavers.. the Arabs and the pernicious cancerous cult implanted there to ensure subservience).
The Sikh wasn't exaggerating, Arabs commited mass genocide on the Indian subcontinent along with their brainwashed native followers,the British whether intending to or not saved many Hindus and Sikhs through their presence there.
Isn't is strange how every religion on earth, even the most peaceful and passive when forced to live alongside followers of the Arab snuff cult become violent?
Muslims ultimately seek to encroach upon, erode and domineer, Egypt was Coptic before the Arab conquests, what type of country is Egypt present day, how are it's native Coptic population treated? The less said about that, the better!
The only solution is accepting Islam is irredeemable poison as a theology.
All people have a capacity to be equally good or bad, when mentally poisoned with the schizophrenic homicidal ramblings of a 6th century conquest and snuff cult .. obviously that isnt going to produce a result worth preserving or defending .
"Christians, Aztecs, Hindus and most of the rest of the religions have a bloody history as well whether Islam is involved or not. But you choose to ignore all that because it suits your bigoted attitude. It wasnt so long ago that christians killing christians in the bloodiest of wars and terrorist acts put Islamic violence in the shade. But you choose to turn a blond eye to that so you can go on pretending that only 1 religion has blood in their hands. | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
Yes & no.
It isn't just their view on their own religon and the rest of the world though, there's other factors that are major contributors.
The West have treated the East like shit since civilization began.
We still do it now trying to impose our values and traditions on them ,trying to dispose of their leaders if we don't like them, reduce their Countries to ruin if needed to teach them a lesson.
We've been party or our allies have to bombing hospitals, schools, humanitarian convoys, weddings, funerals, maiming and killing thousands & thousands of innocent men, women, children and babies, and when the odd time our media actually reports it we call it collateral damage. It's worth it as long as they might do what we want in the end eh?
The hatred against us now is the price we are paying for our "foreign policy" from the last 1000 years.
Ever notice how we only pick on a Eastern Asian countries that cannot really fight back, and we're the unfortunate ones when we get hit back.
What a complete and utter load of bollocks. I suggest you read up on American History, in particular the Barbary Wars. Not long after the United States of America was first formed America started to have problems with Islamic countries in the 1700's which lead to the First Barbary war in 1801 between the USA and the Barbary states. The Barbary States were 4 North African countries who were collectively known then as the Barbary States and they were Islamic Muslim countries, Tripoli (modern day Libya), Algiers, Tunis and Morocco. It was these Islamic Barbary states who started these wars on the newly formed USA, by raiding American ships and taking American citizens hostage in return for Ransom. If the Ransom was not paid then the hostages would either be kept as slaves or killed (sounds familiar to what is going on today with ISIS taking Western hostages and demanding ransom, otherwise they get beheaded?)
It was the 3rd President of the United states Thomas Jefferson who had to deal with and confront this form of Islamic terrorism being inflicted on his newly formed USA by Muslim Pirates who were fully endorsed by the rulers of the Barbary States for their own enrichment through tribute or Ransom payments. In March 1786 Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy (acting on behalf of the Barbary states) and when Jefferson and Adams enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury" the Tripoli ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman replied :-
"It is written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet (Mohammed) were Sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave, and that every Mussulman (Jihadi) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise."
See here the cat is well and truly out of the bag, these Muslim countries openly attacked America because they believed it was their religious duty, and at this time America had done no harm what so ever to any Islamic or Muslim country. America at this time had no foreign policy towards any of these countries!
Sidi Haji Abdrahaman went on.....
"The man who was first to board an American vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every Muslim sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth, which usually struck such 'terror' into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once".
Again letting the cat out of the bag this was an early form of Islamic terrorism back in the 1700's.
After this meeting America continued to pay ransom's to the Barbary states up until 1801 when Thomas Jefferson became President. When he was President he refused to pay the Ransoms, and the Barbary State of Tripoli declared war on the USA for refusing to pay. This then lead to the First Barbary war (1801-1805) which America won and this was the first war in which America ever placed an American flag on foreign soil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
So lets drop this bullshit falsehood that it is Western foreign policy which is driving terrorism (which Corbyn made the case for in his deluded speech today). As history clearly shows with events that lead to the Barbary wars, Western foreign policy has nothing to do with it. I suggest you, Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else with this view reads a few history books before spouting such nonsense.
"Funnily enough you prove my point very well with this example. The rulers of the Barbary states were in it for their own profit (as you yourself said) from ransoms and slavery. But they used religion as their excuse because its convenient for people in power to use religion as an excuse to do evil things. Even the fact that they were willing to negotiate with the US shows that they werent interested in the religious aspect and they just wanted to increase their own wealth. | |||
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"As history clearly shows with events that lead to the Barbary wars, Western foreign policy has nothing to do with it. I suggest you, Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else with this view reads a few history books before spouting such nonsense. " Yep, a particular situation 200 years ago definitely proves something about a whole set of different circumstances, people, and events. Strong logic | |||
"History viewed through the lense of the present is always comedy gold. "shame cant be said about the present as we all see it different and living thro it, no wonder history is for ever being doubted by bigger numbers world wide | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
Yes & no.
It isn't just their view on their own religon and the rest of the world though, there's other factors that are major contributors.
The West have treated the East like shit since civilization began.
We still do it now trying to impose our values and traditions on them ,trying to dispose of their leaders if we don't like them, reduce their Countries to ruin if needed to teach them a lesson.
We've been party or our allies have to bombing hospitals, schools, humanitarian convoys, weddings, funerals, maiming and killing thousands & thousands of innocent men, women, children and babies, and when the odd time our media actually reports it we call it collateral damage. It's worth it as long as they might do what we want in the end eh?
The hatred against us now is the price we are paying for our "foreign policy" from the last 1000 years.
Ever notice how we only pick on a Eastern Asian countries that cannot really fight back, and we're the unfortunate ones when we get hit back.
What a complete and utter load of bollocks. I suggest you read up on American History, in particular the Barbary Wars. Not long after the United States of America was first formed America started to have problems with Islamic countries in the 1700's which lead to the First Barbary war in 1801 between the USA and the Barbary states. The Barbary States were 4 North African countries who were collectively known then as the Barbary States and they were Islamic Muslim countries, Tripoli (modern day Libya), Algiers, Tunis and Morocco. It was these Islamic Barbary states who started these wars on the newly formed USA, by raiding American ships and taking American citizens hostage in return for Ransom. If the Ransom was not paid then the hostages would either be kept as slaves or killed (sounds familiar to what is going on today with ISIS taking Western hostages and demanding ransom, otherwise they get beheaded?)
It was the 3rd President of the United states Thomas Jefferson who had to deal with and confront this form of Islamic terrorism being inflicted on his newly formed USA by Muslim Pirates who were fully endorsed by the rulers of the Barbary States for their own enrichment through tribute or Ransom payments. In March 1786 Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy (acting on behalf of the Barbary states) and when Jefferson and Adams enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury" the Tripoli ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman replied :-
"It is written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet (Mohammed) were Sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave, and that every Mussulman (Jihadi) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise."
See here the cat is well and truly out of the bag, these Muslim countries openly attacked America because they believed it was their religious duty, and at this time America had done no harm what so ever to any Islamic or Muslim country. America at this time had no foreign policy towards any of these countries!
Sidi Haji Abdrahaman went on.....
"The man who was first to board an American vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every Muslim sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth, which usually struck such 'terror' into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once".
Again letting the cat out of the bag this was an early form of Islamic terrorism back in the 1700's.
After this meeting America continued to pay ransom's to the Barbary states up until 1801 when Thomas Jefferson became President. When he was President he refused to pay the Ransoms, and the Barbary State of Tripoli declared war on the USA for refusing to pay. This then lead to the First Barbary war (1801-1805) which America won and this was the first war in which America ever placed an American flag on foreign soil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
So lets drop this bullshit falsehood that it is Western foreign policy which is driving terrorism (which Corbyn made the case for in his deluded speech today). As history clearly shows with events that lead to the Barbary wars, Western foreign policy has nothing to do with it. I suggest you, Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else with this view reads a few history books before spouting such nonsense.
Funnily enough you prove my point very well with this example.
The rulers of the Barbary states were in it for their own profit (as you yourself said) from ransoms and slavery. But they used religion as their excuse because its convenient for people in power to use religion as an excuse to do evil things.
Even the fact that they were willing to negotiate with the US shows that they werent interested in the religious aspect and they just wanted to increase their own wealth."When faced with hard fact you still continue to stick your head in the sand. Pathetic. | |||
"As history clearly shows with events that lead to the Barbary wars, Western foreign policy has nothing to do with it. I suggest you, Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else with this view reads a few history books before spouting such nonsense. Yep, a particular situation 200 years ago definitely proves something about a whole set of different circumstances, people, and events. Strong logic "Western foreign policy helped Muslims in Bosnia/Serbia/Kosovo in the 1990's and stopped thousands of Muslims being slaughtered. Is that recent enough for you?
Or would you have prefered that we didn't intervene there and just continue to let those Muslims be slaughtered? Just blaming Western foreign policy like Corbyn seemed to today in his speech is really dumb. | |||
" When faced with hard fact you still continue to stick your head in the sand. Pathetic. " Are you a bit embarassed that you undercut your own argument? "Its all about religious based hatred, let me prove it with a story about ransoms, elite enriching themselves and their attempts to profit with a religious excuse." | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
Yes & no.
It isn't just their view on their own religon and the rest of the world though, there's other factors that are major contributors.
The West have treated the East like shit since civilization began.
We still do it now trying to impose our values and traditions on them ,trying to dispose of their leaders if we don't like them, reduce their Countries to ruin if needed to teach them a lesson.
We've been party or our allies have to bombing hospitals, schools, humanitarian convoys, weddings, funerals, maiming and killing thousands & thousands of innocent men, women, children and babies, and when the odd time our media actually reports it we call it collateral damage. It's worth it as long as they might do what we want in the end eh?
The hatred against us now is the price we are paying for our "foreign policy" from the last 1000 years.
Ever notice how we only pick on a Eastern Asian countries that cannot really fight back, and we're the unfortunate ones when we get hit back.
What a complete and utter load of bollocks. I suggest you read up on American History, in particular the Barbary Wars. Not long after the United States of America was first formed America started to have problems with Islamic countries in the 1700's which lead to the First Barbary war in 1801 between the USA and the Barbary states. The Barbary States were 4 North African countries who were collectively known then as the Barbary States and they were Islamic Muslim countries, Tripoli (modern day Libya), Algiers, Tunis and Morocco. It was these Islamic Barbary states who started these wars on the newly formed USA, by raiding American ships and taking American citizens hostage in return for Ransom. If the Ransom was not paid then the hostages would either be kept as slaves or killed (sounds familiar to what is going on today with ISIS taking Western hostages and demanding ransom, otherwise they get beheaded?)
It was the 3rd President of the United states Thomas Jefferson who had to deal with and confront this form of Islamic terrorism being inflicted on his newly formed USA by Muslim Pirates who were fully endorsed by the rulers of the Barbary States for their own enrichment through tribute or Ransom payments. In March 1786 Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy (acting on behalf of the Barbary states) and when Jefferson and Adams enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury" the Tripoli ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman replied :-
"It is written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet (Mohammed) were Sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave, and that every Mussulman (Jihadi) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise."
See here the cat is well and truly out of the bag, these Muslim countries openly attacked America because they believed it was their religious duty, and at this time America had done no harm what so ever to any Islamic or Muslim country. America at this time had no foreign policy towards any of these countries!
Sidi Haji Abdrahaman went on.....
"The man who was first to board an American vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every Muslim sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth, which usually struck such 'terror' into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once".
Again letting the cat out of the bag this was an early form of Islamic terrorism back in the 1700's.
After this meeting America continued to pay ransom's to the Barbary states up until 1801 when Thomas Jefferson became President. When he was President he refused to pay the Ransoms, and the Barbary State of Tripoli declared war on the USA for refusing to pay. This then lead to the First Barbary war (1801-1805) which America won and this was the first war in which America ever placed an American flag on foreign soil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
So lets drop this bullshit falsehood that it is Western foreign policy which is driving terrorism (which Corbyn made the case for in his deluded speech today). As history clearly shows with events that lead to the Barbary wars, Western foreign policy has nothing to do with it. I suggest you, Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else with this view reads a few history books before spouting such nonsense.
"Exactly. People are humoursly ignorant. Islam has never been peaceful , it's a conquest cult hidden behind religious conceit. They pillage other civilisation and suck then dry in barren husks then move on elsewhere and do the same.. The west has very little to do with the problems of Islam, read history, the same patterns and problems play out since the schizophrenic founder cannibalised other abrahamic religions disseminated to nomadic illiterate peasants and warped them to fit his agendas . A culture that believes itself "perfect" and lacks any capacity for objective self examination and ability to criticize itself is obviously bad news.. they're locked in a cycle of the same evil patterns . That is reality. Take it or leave it. | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
Yes & no.
It isn't just their view on their own religon and the rest of the world though, there's other factors that are major contributors.
The West have treated the East like shit since civilization began.
We still do it now trying to impose our values and traditions on them ,trying to dispose of their leaders if we don't like them, reduce their Countries to ruin if needed to teach them a lesson.
We've been party or our allies have to bombing hospitals, schools, humanitarian convoys, weddings, funerals, maiming and killing thousands & thousands of innocent men, women, children and babies, and when the odd time our media actually reports it we call it collateral damage. It's worth it as long as they might do what we want in the end eh?
The hatred against us now is the price we are paying for our "foreign policy" from the last 1000 years.
Ever notice how we only pick on a Eastern Asian countries that cannot really fight back, and we're the unfortunate ones when we get hit back.
What a complete and utter load of bollocks. I suggest you read up on American History, in particular the Barbary Wars. Not long after the United States of America was first formed America started to have problems with Islamic countries in the 1700's which lead to the First Barbary war in 1801 between the USA and the Barbary states. The Barbary States were 4 North African countries who were collectively known then as the Barbary States and they were Islamic Muslim countries, Tripoli (modern day Libya), Algiers, Tunis and Morocco. It was these Islamic Barbary states who started these wars on the newly formed USA, by raiding American ships and taking American citizens hostage in return for Ransom. If the Ransom was not paid then the hostages would either be kept as slaves or killed (sounds familiar to what is going on today with ISIS taking Western hostages and demanding ransom, otherwise they get beheaded?)
It was the 3rd President of the United states Thomas Jefferson who had to deal with and confront this form of Islamic terrorism being inflicted on his newly formed USA by Muslim Pirates who were fully endorsed by the rulers of the Barbary States for their own enrichment through tribute or Ransom payments. In March 1786 Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy (acting on behalf of the Barbary states) and when Jefferson and Adams enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury" the Tripoli ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman replied :-
"It is written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet (Mohammed) were Sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave, and that every Mussulman (Jihadi) who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to Paradise."
See here the cat is well and truly out of the bag, these Muslim countries openly attacked America because they believed it was their religious duty, and at this time America had done no harm what so ever to any Islamic or Muslim country. America at this time had no foreign policy towards any of these countries!
Sidi Haji Abdrahaman went on.....
"The man who was first to board an American vessel had one slave over and above his share, and that when they sprang to the deck of an enemy's ship, every Muslim sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth, which usually struck such 'terror' into the foe that they cried out for quarter at once".
Again letting the cat out of the bag this was an early form of Islamic terrorism back in the 1700's.
After this meeting America continued to pay ransom's to the Barbary states up until 1801 when Thomas Jefferson became President. When he was President he refused to pay the Ransoms, and the Barbary State of Tripoli declared war on the USA for refusing to pay. This then lead to the First Barbary war (1801-1805) which America won and this was the first war in which America ever placed an American flag on foreign soil.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War
So lets drop this bullshit falsehood that it is Western foreign policy which is driving terrorism (which Corbyn made the case for in his deluded speech today). As history clearly shows with events that lead to the Barbary wars, Western foreign policy has nothing to do with it. I suggest you, Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else with this view reads a few history books before spouting such nonsense.
Funnily enough you prove my point very well with this example.
The rulers of the Barbary states were in it for their own profit (as you yourself said) from ransoms and slavery. But they used religion as their excuse because its convenient for people in power to use religion as an excuse to do evil things.
Even the fact that they were willing to negotiate with the US shows that they werent interested in the religious aspect and they just wanted to increase their own wealth.
When faced with hard fact you still continue to stick your head in the sand. Pathetic. "Heres a historical fact concerning Christian clergy. . In the court of St Ann's in Jamaica in 1829, the Rev. G. W. Bridges was charged with maltreating a female slave. For a trivial mistake he had stripped her, tied her by the hands to the ceiling so that her toes hardly touched the ground, then flogged her with a bamboo rod until she was a "mass of lacerated flesh and gore" from her shoulders to her calves. Cases like this rarely came to court, but when they did they generally ended in acquital, as in this case, so the Reverend gentleman walked free. The Reverend Richard Fuller summed up the Church's position in 1845: “What God sanctioned in the Old Testament, and permitted in the New, cannot be a sin” He was of course referring to the fact the bible was happy with slavery. . | |||
"As history clearly shows with events that lead to the Barbary wars, Western foreign policy has nothing to do with it. I suggest you, Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else with this view reads a few history books before spouting such nonsense. Yep, a particular situation 200 years ago definitely proves something about a whole set of different circumstances, people, and events. Strong logic "Of course its relevant to today, Islam and the Koran have not changed in those 200 years. The Tripoli ambassador said it himself, they believe it is their religious duty to plunder and enslave non believers who they consider to be sinners. When you don't conform and get in line like President Thomas Jefferson when he refused to pay then they declare war on you. | |||
"As history clearly shows with events that lead to the Barbary wars, Western foreign policy has nothing to do with it. I suggest you, Jeremy Corbyn and anyone else with this view reads a few history books before spouting such nonsense. Yep, a particular situation 200 years ago definitely proves something about a whole set of different circumstances, people, and events. Strong logic
Of course its relevant to today, Islam and the Koran have not changed in those 200 years. The Tripoli ambassador said it himself, they believe it is their religious duty to plunder and enslave non believers who they consider to be sinners. When you don't conform and get in line like President Thomas Jefferson when he refused to pay then they declare war on you. "The past can inform our view of current circumstances. But something happening in the past does not mean that something else can't happen in the current era. | |||
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"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start." How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? | |||
"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school?" Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity. | |||
"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity." I went to a C of E primary school. | |||
"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity. I went to a C of E primary school. " And? | |||
"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity. I went to a C of E primary school. And?" It didn't promote division or hinder integration. | |||
"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity. I went to a C of E primary school. And? It didn't promote division or hinder integration. " I think you understand well enough. c of e primary school is hardly hardcore schooling. Secondly, schooling different religious communities separately is clearly a hindrance to an integrated community. School is where most friendships are formed and where we begin to understand different people. | |||
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"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity. I went to a C of E primary school. And? It didn't promote division or hinder integration. I think you understand well enough. c of e primary school is hardly hardcore schooling. Secondly, schooling different religious communities separately is clearly a hindrance to an integrated community. School is where most friendships are formed and where we begin to understand different people." I really don't think not allowing people to bring up their children in the faith of their choice is going to help create a tolerant society. Where is the evidence that sending children to faith schools causes any division in society? | |||
"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity. I went to a C of E primary school. And? It didn't promote division or hinder integration. I think you understand well enough. c of e primary school is hardly hardcore schooling. Secondly, schooling different religious communities separately is clearly a hindrance to an integrated community. School is where most friendships are formed and where we begin to understand different people. I really don't think not allowing people to bring up their children in the faith of their choice is going to help create a tolerant society. Where is the evidence that sending children to faith schools causes any division in society?" People can bring up their children in the faith of their choice. They can attend church, mosque, synagogue or temple whenever they choose out of school hours. The evidence is in our divided, un-integrated communities. Children growing up together and understanding each other gives the long term future we need. | |||
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"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity. I went to a C of E primary school. And? It didn't promote division or hinder integration. I think you understand well enough. c of e primary school is hardly hardcore schooling. Secondly, schooling different religious communities separately is clearly a hindrance to an integrated community. School is where most friendships are formed and where we begin to understand different people. I really don't think not allowing people to bring up their children in the faith of their choice is going to help create a tolerant society. Where is the evidence that sending children to faith schools causes any division in society? People can bring up their children in the faith of their choice. They can attend church, mosque, synagogue or temple whenever they choose out of school hours. The evidence is in our divided, un-integrated communities. Children growing up together and understanding each other gives the long term future we need." I'm going to save this argument for another day. Now is not the time for it. | |||
"Actually this whole debate is tastless! 22 people mainly children are dead and dozens of others seriously wounded. We look for somone or somthing to blame, Religion foriegn Policy greed. The other day in Syria 60 people mainly Children were blown up in a bus but no one talks about that either. Evil is evil its not really neccesary to understand it becouse there is no explenation any sane person would accept. To blame religion or any other outside source is to fail to look into your own sole and address the darkness within. Change starts with the individual. So grow a pair and confront yourself!" Well said. I'm taking it on board. | |||
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"Actually this whole debate is tastless! 22 people mainly children are dead and dozens of others seriously wounded. We look for somone or somthing to blame, Religion foriegn Policy greed. The other day in Syria 60 people mainly Children were blown up in a bus but no one talks about that either. Evil is evil its not really neccesary to understand it becouse there is no explenation any sane person would accept. To blame religion or any other outside source is to fail to look into your own sole and address the darkness within. Change starts with the individual. So grow a pair and confront yourself!" How is a debate about it not happening again tasteless? Although I disagree with many people on this thread, I don't think any of them have darkness within them. There are terrible individuals all over the world, who are prepared to kill and maim children who have no?ing but purity in their hearts. I find someone stamping on the discussion tasteless. | |||
"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity. I went to a C of E primary school. And? It didn't promote division or hinder integration. " Are you SERIOUSLY comparing a relatively genteel jam and Jerusalem c of e school to often seedy, sub standard "Islamic" brain washing centre's , a significant number have been revealed to be purveyors of vile anti-Semitism and blind anti western sentiment? Many former pupils have even made complaints against those schools , the department of education has yet to act in a way that will safe guard future children from psychological abuse and grooming into extremism rampant at those "schools". Your post illustrates what is wrong, some cultures are so fundamentally disadvantaging and pernicious.. even a glib and disingenuous pc pseudo equivocation will not alter this. | |||
"Actually this whole debate is tastless! 22 people mainly children are dead and dozens of others seriously wounded. We look for somone or somthing to blame, Religion foriegn Policy greed. The other day in Syria 60 people mainly Children were blown up in a bus but no one talks about that either. Evil is evil its not really neccesary to understand it becouse there is no explenation any sane person would accept. To blame religion or any other outside source is to fail to look into your own sole and address the darkness within. Change starts with the individual. So grow a pair and confront yourself! How is a debate about it not happening again tasteless? Although I disagree with many people on this thread, I don't think any of them have darkness within them. There are terrible individuals all over the world, who are prepared to kill and maim children who have no?ing but purity in their hearts. I find someone stamping on the discussion tasteless." "Darkness" is that even a thing.Much like evil i guess.. | |||
" How is a debate about it not happening again tasteless? Although I disagree with many people on this thread, I don't think any of them have darkness within them. There are terrible individuals all over the world, who are prepared to kill and maim children who have no?ing but purity in their hearts. I find someone stamping on the discussion tasteless. "Darkness" is that even a thing.Much like evil i guess.." I was quoting the post I was replying to... | |||
"Stop facilitating the Saudis opening Wahabist schools of hate under the guise of "faith schools". In fact stop any new faith schools of any flavour being opened, we only have to look at Northern Ireland to see how sectarianism is encouraged by a religion-based school selection policy. There's also a ton of other things need doing but that would be a good start. How many UK terrorists attended a faith school? Regardless of that, they hinder integration and promote division. There is a national curriculum, of which RE is just a small part. Religion beyond that should be an out of school activity. I went to a C of E primary school. And? It didn't promote division or hinder integration. Are you SERIOUSLY comparing a relatively genteel jam and Jerusalem c of e school to often seedy, sub standard "Islamic" brain washing centre's , a significant number have been revealed to be purveyors of vile anti-Semitism and blind anti western sentiment? Many former pupils have even made complaints against those schools , the department of education has yet to act in a way that will safe guard future children from psychological abuse and grooming into extremism rampant at those "schools". Your post illustrates what is wrong, some cultures are so fundamentally disadvantaging and pernicious.. even a glib and disingenuous pc pseudo equivocation will not alter this. " So are you saying that you are happy with some faith schools and not others? | |||
" Many former pupils have even made complaints against those schools , the department of education has yet to act in a way that will safe guard future children from psychological abuse and grooming into extremism rampant at those "schools". Your post illustrates what is wrong, some cultures are so fundamentally disadvantaging and pernicious.. even a glib and disingenuous pc pseudo equivocation will not alter this. So are you saying that you are happy with some faith schools and not others? " You know what they are saying. Your c of e primary school education is not a vindication of all religious schools. The comparison is silly. | |||
"Any ideas ?" Going by what people at the concert said about security... Better security. Army on streets was just window dressing I'm sory to say | |||
"It's nothing to do with inequality it's there twisted view of there own religion and the rest of the world exactly I couldn't put it better ! The sooner this is excepted as the problem the sooner we can sought it !
What are the political aims of ISIS?total world domination of thier version of islam if that cannot be achieved then a callifait controling the whole of northafrica and the middle east along the same lines .zero tolerance of any other form of islam or any other religion basicly take anywhere that falls under thier control back to medieval times
Also death to gays or anyone in the LBGT community, death to all non believers, atheists and people who don't have any religion. Complete abolition of democracy or any form of democratic process in electing/choosing rulers. Women to be subjugated and turned into 2nd class citizens, with fewer rights than men. Education of female children to be abolished. They are nothing more than a backwards death cult and they worship and celebrate death instead of life.
Did you see question time earlier?
The audience was full of Muslims!
One man complained his daughter was getting "dirty looks" on a train..
22 people have been horrificly murdered and he complains about "dirty looks"?!
Is anyone trying to decapitate him or his daughter or blow either of them up as is the custom within his culture toward dissenters or critics?!
If only those 22 murder victims had the luxury to be offended by "dirty looks"!
Duh.. you're getting dirty looks, you walk around in a triumphanalist manner expecting unwavering reverence after your "pure" religion spawns another atrocity?
Some appear to be vile and entitled beyond belief.
It was a stitch up. One of the Muslims in the audience is quite infamous now. Vids of the cunt all over YouTube in various BBC audiences and interviews. One he was behind a Sikh guy and started pulling faces when the Sikh said the Arab conquests of India were worse than the British. This fat dick isn't even Arab.
Probably a pakistani (also ethnically Indian but stuck in the Stockholm Syndrome of their former enslavers.. the Arabs and the pernicious cancerous cult implanted there to ensure subservience).
The Sikh wasn't exaggerating, Arabs commited mass genocide on the Indian subcontinent along with their brainwashed native followers,the British whether intending to or not saved many Hindus and Sikhs through their presence there.
Isn't is strange how every religion on earth, even the most peaceful and passive when forced to live alongside followers of the Arab snuff cult become violent?
Muslims ultimately seek to encroach upon, erode and domineer, Egypt was Coptic before the Arab conquests, what type of country is Egypt present day, how are it's native Coptic population treated? The less said about that, the better!
The only solution is accepting Islam is irredeemable poison as a theology.
All people have a capacity to be equally good or bad, when mentally poisoned with the schizophrenic homicidal ramblings of a 6th century conquest and snuff cult .. obviously that isnt going to produce a result worth preserving or defending .
"exactly this . ISIS are Islamic fundamentalists. | |||
