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"Anyone know any details yet ? Apparently there are fatalities ! "Sadly none yet. | |||
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"The story coming out is that large balloons exploded (these aren't just filled with air). Some people suffered minor injuries from this but the resulting panic involved thousands rushing for the exits and these caused serious injuries including a number of fatalities. Bomb squad has been called as a precaution but they're not evacuating the area because they dont see a risk of any other danger. Theyre just asking people to stay away from the area. If anyones missing someone the Holiday Inn nearby had apparently taken in a lot of people who got seperated." Hopefully it is not a bomb, and only a malfunction. | |||
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"19 confirmed dead 50 injured so far GMP treating it as a terrorist incident. "Its being treated as a terrorist incident until proven otherwise. Thats standard procedure in incidents like this because they have to be aware of any further dangers. Theres already been lots of disinformation and rumours being spread. | |||
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"Looks like there was a bomb in the foyer that exploded at 10:35 just as the arena was emptying... " This has not been confirmed by anyone. The controlled explosion was a suspect device that was found to be abandoned clothing and not an explosive device, confirmed by the met police. | |||
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"US intelligence (contradiction in terms) sources are now reporting that it was a suicide bomber. If this turns out to be the case then I would not want to be a Muslim in Manchester tomorrow and I would steer well clear of Cheatham Hill in the late evening for the next few days/weeks. " There is nothing linking this to a suicide bomber so far. Two US officials, unnamed and not briefed by the actual investigators, speculated that it could possibly be a bomber. Police are holding a press conference soon with more details. | |||
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"Looks like there was a bomb in the foyer that exploded at 10:35 just as the arena was emptying... This has not been confirmed by anyone. The controlled explosion was a suspect device that was found to be abandoned clothing and not an explosive device, confirmed by the met police." I hope the "abandoned clothing" they've blown up doesn't turn out to be a rough sleeper. | |||
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"A few papers have reported with some weight of certainty a suicide bomber (their identity and affiliations have yet to be disclosed) was behind the bomb. Obviously still early and information still emerging." Descriptions by eye witness early on mage me think suicide bomber - bolts around the explosion area and bits of skin, flesh and shit flying. We can try to go softly but it's highly likely to be an IS bomb. I've seen screen shots overnight of Twitter accounts now closed seemingly claiming responsibility. | |||
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"OMG! WTF is going on? I knew GMP was in financial crisis, but have just heard they needed to use taxis to get police to the MEN arena! Guess that shows exactly how deep the cuts have been." I really don't think now is the time to try to score political points. Now, with this and the anniversary of Jo Cox, it is the time to remember that we have more in common to unite us than what divides us. | |||
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And I have just had the distinct displeasure of seeing Piers Morgan sewing division. For the first time I really understand why that man is so reviled. I have to say I was impressed by IDS and Chuka Umunna, they were united in their rejection of every bit of Morgan's attempt to divide.
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"US intelligence (contradiction in terms) sources are now reporting that it was a suicide bomber. If this turns out to be the case then I would not want to be a Muslim in Manchester tomorrow and I would steer well clear of Cheatham Hill in the late evening for the next few days/weeks. " Disgraceful attempt to sew hate and division at a time like this. I'm muslim..n from the area. Why should I be worried ? | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv "Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap... | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap..."Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred"Just a note Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic They are not they are murderers It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx | |||
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Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap..."I think he is simply saying that certain groups in society will use this an excuse to verbally or physically assult muslims - at the very least use it to the us vs thrm narrative. Sadly when there is a terrorist attack, people will get scared and angry. And with ISIS attacks straddling europe people will jump and presume the attack is affiliated. | |||
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"US intelligence (contradiction in terms) sources are now reporting that it was a suicide bomber. If this turns out to be the case then I would not want to be a Muslim in Manchester tomorrow and I would steer well clear of Cheatham Hill in the late evening for the next few days/weeks. There is nothing linking this to a suicide bomber so far. Two US officials, unnamed and not briefed by the actual investigators, speculated that it could possibly be a bomber. Police are holding a press conference soon with more details." Egyt! | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx"Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON. The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on. The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position. Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting.. Quite sickening. | |||
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"Sad day in my beloved city thanks to the religion of peace " This is not to do with religion any morr than the crusades were. People will use whatever excuses they can to get what they want which is money and power. Dont be so easily fooled. | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". " Why the fuck are you singling out innocent Muslims?? They have no more to answer for than the rest of us | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening."The last big bombing in Manchester WAS the IRA. Targeted shopping centre and DID kill children, women etc...shoppers in general. There is no distinction between murdering terrorist b&st@rds...... | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". Why the fuck are you singling out innocent Muslims?? They have no more to answer for than the rest of us"
-Matt | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". " You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening.
The last big bombing in Manchester WAS the IRA. Targeted shopping centre and DID kill children, women etc...shoppers in general.
There is no distinction between murdering terrorist b&st@rds......"If you're talking about the Arndale centre bombing then there were no fatalities. Mr | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening."So did the IRA expect no children to be present in a busy shopping centre in Warrington when they set off bombs? The IRA bombing campaign was every bit as indiscriminate as this. The means of delivery and cause are academic. In both cases it's cowards targeting civilians. | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". Why the fuck are you singling out innocent Muslims?? They have no more to answer for than the rest of us
-Matt"It hadn't even been confirmed who the bomber may be yet..... could be any ethnicity or religion. | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening.
The last big bombing in Manchester WAS the IRA. Targeted shopping centre and DID kill children, women etc...shoppers in general.
There is no distinction between murdering terrorist b&st@rds......
If you're talking about the Arndale centre bombing then there were no fatalities.
Mr "Apologies....confused Manchester and Warrington. Either way the IRA frequently chose civilian targets and DID kill children.... . Sick terrorists sre sick terrorists.....regardless! | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? " I think that is both ageist and racist towards but that's ok isn't it for a Muslim to say over a key board... Never once have I mentioned race on here! It's simple, Muslims do not openly condemn these acts... Why is this?? Shame or protectionism. Certainly normal Muslims know extremism exists within their communities and they tolerate it... | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? I think that is both ageist and racist towards but that's ok isn't it for a Muslim to say over a key board... Never once have I mentioned race on here! It's simple, Muslims do not openly condemn these acts... Why is this?? Shame or protectionism. Certainly normal Muslims know extremism exists within their communities and they tolerate it... " | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? I think that is both ageist and racist towards but that's ok isn't it for a Muslim to say over a key board... Never once have I mentioned race on here! It's simple, Muslims do not openly condemn these acts... Why is this?? Shame or protectionism. Certainly normal Muslims know extremism exists within their communities and they tolerate it... " No they dont. They regularly condemn extremists and Muslim mosques and groups across Europe and America are in constant with authorities and have provided thousands of pieces of information regarding potential suspects and anyone who may be subverting the religion for violent means. British, European and American law enforcement have been on record many times to say the Muslim community have been a massive help in preventing and dealing with the aftermath of these situations. But dont let the facts get in the way of your ignorant racism. | |||
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"https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8BjMW36CMNc4-qc9UNQku0blstZSzp5FMtkdlavqzc/htmlview#gid=0 This is a little old and certainly isnt comprehensive but its a list of over 5,000 times that major Muslim leaders and group have condemned extremism and terrorism. But Im sure it will be ignored by the people who want to pretend that theyre racism is perfectly justified." Are you not the fellow that posted the events last night were only balloons bursting earlier? Your credibility is dubious to say the least fella so go find a rock to hide under... Just to be clear, Muslims are not a race and I am certainly not a racist or against peaceful Muslims. I grew up around Muslims and got on well with them, but what I did learn back at school during those time is that many of them believe that a holy war will happen and the sign of the times are here. Many muslims passively support these acts, which is sad, unjust and highly hypocritical. | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? I think that is both ageist and racist towards but that's ok isn't it for a Muslim to say over a key board... Never once have I mentioned race on here! It's simple, Muslims do not openly condemn these acts... Why is this?? Shame or protectionism. Certainly normal Muslims know extremism exists within their communities and they tolerate it... " Open your eyes. Seriously. Look on twitter, facebook, any news website. You will see muslims openly condemning the attack, along with pretty much every other religion out there. Step out of your bubble. -Matt | |||
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"Just to be clear, Muslims are not a race and I am certainly not a racist or against peaceful Muslims. I grew up around Muslims and got on well with them, but what I did learn back at school during those time is that many of them believe that a holy war will happen and the sign of the times are here. Many muslims passively support these acts, which is sad, unjust and highly hypocritical." And many more muslims (the vast majority, I'd wager) do not support these attacks. What is your point? -Matt | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? I think that is both ageist and racist towards but that's ok isn't it for a Muslim to say over a key board... Never once have I mentioned race on here! It's simple, Muslims do not openly condemn these acts... Why is this?? Shame or protectionism. Certainly normal Muslims know extremism exists within their communities and they tolerate it... " . Its very simple... There afraid of them like everybody else is! | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening."Ill tell you whats sickening is that anyone can portray any act of terrorism as anything other than cowardice. The ira killed many innocents in their time including women and children or do omagh,warrington and the grand hotel not count? | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? I think that is both ageist and racist towards but that's ok isn't it for a Muslim to say over a key board... Never once have I mentioned race on here! It's simple, Muslims do not openly condemn these acts... Why is this?? Shame or protectionism. Certainly normal Muslims know extremism exists within their communities and they tolerate it... Open your eyes. Seriously. Look on twitter, facebook, any news website. You will see muslims openly condemning the attack, along with pretty much every other religion out there. Step out of your bubble. -Matt" Indeed it is a bubble The very fact that many Muslim taxi drivers gave free lifts , pretty much debunks the suggested notion that all Muslims secretly condone the terrorism | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening.
Ill tell you whats sickening is that anyone can portray any act of terrorism as anything other than cowardice.
The ira killed many innocents in their time including women and children or do omagh,warrington and the grand hotel not count?"But they were white peolple It's not the same (obviously the view of some, not me)  | |||
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"https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8BjMW36CMNc4-qc9UNQku0blstZSzp5FMtkdlavqzc/htmlview#gid=0 This is a little old and certainly isnt comprehensive but its a list of over 5,000 times that major Muslim leaders and group have condemned extremism and terrorism. But Im sure it will be ignored by the people who want to pretend that theyre racism is perfectly justified. Are you not the fellow that posted the events last night were only balloons bursting earlier? Your credibility is dubious to say the least fella so go find a rock to hide under... Just to be clear, Muslims are not a race and I am certainly not a racist or against peaceful Muslims. I grew up around Muslims and got on well with them, but what I did learn back at school during those time is that many of them believe that a holy war will happen and the sign of the times are here. Many muslims passively support these acts, which is sad, unjust and highly hypocritical." One of the initial reports from an english paper was that it wasnt an attack and that stage balloons were the cause. Although what an initial report made in error has to do with a well researched list that is easily verifiable Im not sure. Instead of looking at the list and seeing that thousands of muslim leaders and groups have comdemned terrorism, directly proving you wrong, you instead focus on me? Why? Because if you can tell yourself Im not to be trusted then you can ignore thousands of muslim groups and leaders working against terrorism and continue on your bigoted diatribes. So instead of attacking me, maybe you'll be honest enough to say that you're wrong about muslims not speaking out against terrorism. | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening.
Ill tell you whats sickening is that anyone can portray any act of terrorism as anything other than cowardice.
The ira killed many innocents in their time including women and children or do omagh,warrington and the grand hotel not count?"so with the same logic we can assume the British military to be terrorists,slaughter of children on Bloody Sunday along with the children killed in the Dublin,Monaghan bombings in which they colluded with loyalists,never mind the thousands of child deaths you and your American masters are responsible for in Iraq...very warped view on terrorism there fella..let's be honest we could carry on for a month with British military child deaths throughout your imperialist colonialist worldwide slaughter....hypocrisy knows no bounds | |||
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"Amazes me how people are in denial. . Bloody big balloon! Don't upset the Muslims. .pathetic. I will bet anyone this animal was known to the Police and they couldn't touch him because of his human rights. Anyone with any link to terror, deport them and there families to some shit hole Muslim state after all they want to live in one " Because it is political correctness, noone is allowed to mention them. | |||
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"Amazes me how people are in denial. . Bloody big balloon! Don't upset the Muslims. .pathetic. I will bet anyone this animal was known to the Police and they couldn't touch him because of his human rights. Anyone with any link to terror, deport them and there families to some shit hole Muslim state after all they want to live in one " Very sensible, logical idea. | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? I think that is both ageist and racist towards but that's ok isn't it for a Muslim to say over a key board... Never once have I mentioned race on here! It's simple, Muslims do not openly condemn these acts... Why is this?? Shame or protectionism. Certainly normal Muslims know extremism exists within their communities and they tolerate it... " Get yourself a twitter account and don't follow the daily mail/ UKIP etc. You'll see plenty who condem - also squads who were out in force last night helping, Muslim and Sikh alike. Taxi drivers running people for free to Liverpool and beyond. We wouldn't tarnish all white people/ christians as arseholes just on the back of your comments now, would we? | |||
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"https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e8BjMW36CMNc4-qc9UNQku0blstZSzp5FMtkdlavqzc/htmlview#gid=0 This is a little old and certainly isnt comprehensive but its a list of over 5,000 times that major Muslim leaders and group have condemned extremism and terrorism. But Im sure it will be ignored by the people who want to pretend that theyre racism is perfectly justified. Are you not the fellow that posted the events last night were only balloons bursting earlier? Your credibility is dubious to say the least fella so go find a rock to hide under... Just to be clear, Muslims are not a race and I am certainly not a racist or against peaceful Muslims. I grew up around Muslims and got on well with them, but what I did learn back at school during those time is that many of them believe that a holy war will happen and the sign of the times are here. Many muslims passively support these acts, which is sad, unjust and highly hypocritical. One of the initial reports from an english paper was that it wasnt an attack and that stage balloons were the cause. Although what an initial report made in error has to do with a well researched list that is easily verifiable Im not sure. Instead of looking at the list and seeing that thousands of muslim leaders and groups have comdemned terrorism, directly proving you wrong, you instead focus on me? Why? Because if you can tell yourself Im not to be trusted then you can ignore thousands of muslim groups and leaders working against terrorism and continue on your bigoted diatribes. So instead of attacking me, maybe you'll be honest enough to say that you're wrong about muslims not speaking out against terrorism. Some muslims might, but many do not. I am far from being bigoted and even the use of the word from you indicates your position - you fucking hypocrite cannigut. The 2 Muslims who have contributed to the post. Have they once condemned the acts? No, they focused on "why are you picking inn Muslims?" It's time to face facts, we are harbouring terrorists in our country and no one is allowed to say anything that breaks political correctness even when it's the truth." How do you know who's muslim and who isnt? Are you psychic? And most people in the thread havent condemned the attacks because its pretty well understood that we all condemn them. In fact the only ones in here inciting hatred and promoting division are bigots like you. The UK has always had terrorists in their midst. From ISIS today, to loyalist and nationalists all the way back to Guy Fawkes. Not to mention the Miles Cooper letter bomb campaign or the murder of Jo Cox by right winger nut jobs. | |||
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"All terrorists are Muslims. Eight year old girl now been named. Rest in peace little one and Muslims hang your heads in shame " Anders Brevik? | |||
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"Lol the usual speak out about terror and your a racist. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists but the ones attacking us now are Muslim.I work with and count as friends a lot of Muslims. But if they are linked to terror groups they don't belong here. . . Happy to be a clown "We, actually, you did. That's exactly what you said. | |||
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"Lol the usual speak out about terror and your a racist. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists but the ones attacking us now are Muslim.I work with and count as friends a lot of Muslims. But if they are linked to terror groups they don't belong here. . . Happy to be a clown "Thats exactly what you said. "All muslims are terrorists". You said those exact words. If you dont remember you can just look at your own post or the others that quoted you. Terrorism is nothing to do with Islam just like terrorism is nothing to do with being British even though both have been used as an excuse for violence. | |||
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"You really do have to wonder though... Just how fucked up in the head do you have to be to think that your "god" is going to be happy that you blew up yourself along with a bunch of schoolgirls and teenagers in his/her name? I mean, this is seriously fucking messed up. I know people don't like it when terrorists are given the "mental health issue" label - but really - what else other than mentally deranged can you be? This is all so sad and so sick and so pointless." That is right, most of them that believe in the twisted version of the quran can not be right. I wonder what a psychologist would say, they probably wouldnt let them out after a consultation. | |||
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"You really do have to wonder though... Just how fucked up in the head do you have to be to think that your "god" is going to be happy that you blew up yourself along with a bunch of schoolgirls and teenagers in his/her name? I mean, this is seriously fucking messed up. I know people don't like it when terrorists are given the "mental health issue" label - but really - what else other than mentally deranged can you be? This is all so sad and so sick and so pointless." ...the problem is.. We have millions of Muslims with this ideology in the world. | |||
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"You really do have to wonder though... Just how fucked up in the head do you have to be to think that your "god" is going to be happy that you blew up yourself along with a bunch of schoolgirls and teenagers in his/her name? I mean, this is seriously fucking messed up. I know people don't like it when terrorists are given the "mental health issue" label - but really - what else other than mentally deranged can you be? This is all so sad and so sick and so pointless....the problem is.. We have millions of Muslims with this ideology in the world." There are over 2 billion muslims in the world, the CIA estimates less than 30,000 are members of Isis worldwide. If there were millions of people supporting these terrorist acts then things would be a lot worse than 1 person driving 1 vehicle into people. | |||
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"Lol the usual speak out about terror and your a racist. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists but the ones attacking us now are Muslim.I work with and count as friends a lot of Muslims. But if they are linked to terror groups they don't belong here. . . Happy to be a clown
Thats exactly what you said. "All muslims are terrorists". You said those exact words. If you dont remember you can just look at your own post or the others that quoted you.
Terrorism is nothing to do with Islam just like terrorism is nothing to do with being British even though both have been used as an excuse for violence."Actually, to be fair, that is NOT what they said. They said that "All terrorists are Muslim". Not the same thing, but still clearly a provably false statement. And many have pointed out counter-examples to their bigotry. -Matt | |||
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"You really do have to wonder though... Just how fucked up in the head do you have to be to think that your "god" is going to be happy that you blew up yourself along with a bunch of schoolgirls and teenagers in his/her name? I mean, this is seriously fucking messed up. I know people don't like it when terrorists are given the "mental health issue" label - but really - what else other than mentally deranged can you be? This is all so sad and so sick and so pointless." I keep coming back to Stephen Fry's rant about god: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-suvkwNYSQo You can take it as being a Christian God or any other religion's god, but the point is the same. -Matt | |||
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"What I said was all terrorists are Muslim not all Muslims are terrorists. If you think I'm a fucking clown I'm saying something right "Well I posted a list of white, British, Christian/Atheist, terrorists so you're wrong. | |||
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"What I said was all terrorists are Muslim not all Muslims are terrorists. If you think I'm a fucking clown I'm saying something right "Exactly. And I said you were wrong. As has been demonstrated by others here. -Matt | |||
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"Lol the usual speak out about terror and your a racist. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists but the ones attacking us now are Muslim.I work with and count as friends a lot of Muslims. But if they are linked to terror groups they don't belong here. . . Happy to be a clown
Thats exactly what you said. "All muslims are terrorists". You said those exact words. If you dont remember you can just look at your own post or the others that quoted you.
Terrorism is nothing to do with Islam just like terrorism is nothing to do with being British even though both have been used as an excuse for violence.
You sound just like fucking Goebbels.
A mere NINETY per cent of world-wide terrorism is Koran/islam inspired. "https://thinkprogress.org/less-than-2-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-in-the-e-u-are-religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6 2% of terrorist attacks in Europe are Muslim related. And thats according to Interpol. Two.per.cent. | |||
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"Lol the usual speak out about terror and your a racist. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists but the ones attacking us now are Muslim.I work with and count as friends a lot of Muslims. But if they are linked to terror groups they don't belong here. . . Happy to be a clown
Thats exactly what you said. "All muslims are terrorists". You said those exact words. If you dont remember you can just look at your own post or the others that quoted you.
Terrorism is nothing to do with Islam just like terrorism is nothing to do with being British even though both have been used as an excuse for violence.
You sound just like fucking Goebbels.
A mere NINETY per cent of world-wide terrorism is Koran/islam inspired. "And something like 97% of victims of terrorism worldwide are muslims. -Matt | |||
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"Lol the usual speak out about terror and your a racist. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists but the ones attacking us now are Muslim.I work with and count as friends a lot of Muslims. But if they are linked to terror groups they don't belong here. . . Happy to be a clown
Thats exactly what you said. "All muslims are terrorists". You said those exact words. If you dont remember you can just look at your own post or the others that quoted you.
Terrorism is nothing to do with Islam just like terrorism is nothing to do with being British even though both have been used as an excuse for violence.
You sound just like fucking Goebbels.
A mere NINETY per cent of world-wide terrorism is Koran/islam inspired.
https://thinkprogress.org/less-than-2-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-in-the-e-u-are-religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6
2% of terrorist attacks in Europe are Muslim related. And thats according to Interpol.
Two.per.cent. "And combining that with the stat I put above and what do we get? - If you live in a muslim-majority country and a terrorist attack occurs, the chances are both the perpetrator and the victims will be muslim. - If you live in a non-muslim-majority country and a terrorist attack occurs, the chances are both the perpetrator and the victims will be non-muslim. Well. Fucking. Done. Bigots. *slow clap* It's almost as bad as those getting all bent out of shape that the majority of the crime in a muslim-majority suburb of Sweden were carried out by.... muslims. -Matt PS. _xplicitlyrics: just to be clear, I'm agreeing with you and taking it further, no matter how I re-wrote it above I realised it might be mis-read as having a go at you. | |||
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"Bored now. Ask Paris if they think two percent of attacks are Muslim. Enjoy deluding yourselves. Bye "Typical that when the facts come to light bigots decide they dont want to talk about it anymore. This is how ignorance persists despite the wealth of information available to us. Facts dont agree, start running and ignore it. | |||
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Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening.
Ill tell you whats sickening is that anyone can portray any act of terrorism as anything other than cowardice.
The ira killed many innocents in their time including women and children or do omagh,warrington and the grand hotel not count?so with the same logic we can assume the British military to be terrorists,slaughter of children on Bloody Sunday along with the children killed in the Dublin,Monaghan bombings in which they colluded with loyalists,never mind the thousands of child deaths you and your American masters are responsible for in Iraq...very warped view on terrorism there fella..let's be honest we could carry on for a month with British military child deaths throughout your imperialist colonialist worldwide slaughter....hypocrisy knows no bounds "I didn't know Jeremy Corbyn had a fab account....but here he is spouting his support of the IRA murderers again. Bombing of innocent women and children is an evil atrocity..... be it ISIS, IRA or anyone of whatever colour, religion, race etc. There is an exact equivalence......all scum. | |||
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Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening.
Ill tell you whats sickening is that anyone can portray any act of terrorism as anything other than cowardice.
The ira killed many innocents in their time including women and children or do omagh,warrington and the grand hotel not count?so with the same logic we can assume the British military to be terrorists,slaughter of children on Bloody Sunday along with the children killed in the Dublin,Monaghan bombings in which they colluded with loyalists,never mind the thousands of child deaths you and your American masters are responsible for in Iraq...very warped view on terrorism there fella..let's be honest we could carry on for a month with British military child deaths throughout your imperialist colonialist worldwide slaughter....hypocrisy knows no bounds
I didn't know Jeremy Corbyn had a fab account....but here he is spouting his support of the IRA murderers again.
Bombing of innocent women and children is an evil atrocity..... be it ISIS, IRA or anyone of whatever colour, religion, race etc. There is an exact equivalence......all scum."wow a Mensa candidate comment...but hey maybe you can quote the bit where I said that...I merely pointed out the blatant hypocrisy in calling others terrorists with the blood of tens of thousands of children on your military's hands...when commenting you really should read the quote | |||
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"You really do have to wonder though... Just how fucked up in the head do you have to be to think that your "god" is going to be happy that you blew up yourself along with a bunch of schoolgirls and teenagers in his/her name? I mean, this is seriously fucking messed up. I know people don't like it when terrorists are given the "mental health issue" label - but really - what else other than mentally deranged can you be? This is all so sad and so sick and so pointless....the problem is.. We have millions of Muslims with this ideology in the world. There are over 2 billion muslims in the world, the CIA estimates less than 30,000 are members of Isis worldwide. If there were millions of people supporting these terrorist acts then things would be a lot worse than 1 person driving 1 vehicle into people." ............But not all IRA sympathisers planted bombs. | |||
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"You really do have to wonder though... Just how fucked up in the head do you have to be to think that your "god" is going to be happy that you blew up yourself along with a bunch of schoolgirls and teenagers in his/her name? I mean, this is seriously fucking messed up. I know people don't like it when terrorists are given the "mental health issue" label - but really - what else other than mentally deranged can you be? This is all so sad and so sick and so pointless....the problem is.. We have millions of Muslims with this ideology in the world. There are over 2 billion muslims in the world, the CIA estimates less than 30,000 are members of Isis worldwide. If there were millions of people supporting these terrorist acts then things would be a lot worse than 1 person driving 1 vehicle into people.............But not all IRA sympathisers planted bombs." . You've made a very good distinction!. Its perfectly possible to believe in bat shit crazy Islamic doctrines while NOT being a terrorist. So yes there maybe millions of Muslims who believe bat shit crazy stuff but the amount of them willing to act on it is very small, at the end of the day the ability to murder is either in you or it isn't and thankfully humans do air on the side of not being murderers hence why theres very few murders!
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? I think that is both ageist and racist towards but that's ok isn't it for a Muslim to say over a key board... Never once have I mentioned race on here! It's simple, Muslims do not openly condemn these acts... Why is this?? Shame or protectionism. Certainly normal Muslims know extremism exists within their communities and they tolerate it... No they dont. They regularly condemn extremists and Muslim mosques and groups across Europe and America are in constant with authorities and have provided thousands of pieces of information regarding potential suspects and anyone who may be subverting the religion for violent means. British, European and American law enforcement have been on record many times to say the Muslim community have been a massive help in preventing and dealing with the aftermath of these situations. But dont let the facts get in the way of your ignorant racism." 
This time you are right.... but not in the way you think !
Some, a very small minority , do criticise terrorism and the protection it gets from within "peaceful" muslim communities!
But when they do , they suffer consequences , and worse , they are even not respected by authorities who don't see them as legitimate representatives of muslim communities !
Why ? Political correctness ! 
Here is a brilliant example ; Tarek Fatah :
One of the best wake up calls I have come across ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkBAH0Znm-g
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Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening.
The last big bombing in Manchester WAS the IRA. Targeted shopping centre and DID kill children, women etc...shoppers in general.
There is no distinction between murdering terrorist b&st@rds......"I agree, I'm certainly no apologist for any group that uses the threat of harm inflicted against ordinary people to validate or further their "cause". I'm correcting you though on inferring the IRA were motivated by religion, they were not. They were motivated by constitutional position.. they did not invoke religious conceit of any type to excuse or justify their actions. There's simply no compassion in that regard, Islamic terrorists think they have a divine right to kill or inflict torture upon those who don't believe or subscribe to their perverse totalistic theocratic beliefs re their religion. Drawing frankly spurious specious and lazy glib parallels just obfuscates things.. | |||
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"Still no condolences or condemnation of the extremists from the "swinging Muslim community". You seem like a old white man..did you come out n condemn jimmy saville n demand apology n condemnation from old white men ? I think that is both ageist and racist towards but that's ok isn't it for a Muslim to say over a key board... Never once have I mentioned race on here! It's simple, Muslims do not openly condemn these acts... Why is this?? Shame or protectionism. Certainly normal Muslims know extremism exists within their communities and they tolerate it... " I found out about it through the muslim girl at work when she texted me. She is mortified by it and is terrified about a backlash against the intergrated muslim community. That said I don't think she has to apologise - the views of her faith and radical/political are different. What would you like, the bbc to do an hour special of muslims condeming them? | |||
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"Lol the usual speak out about terror and your a racist. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists but the ones attacking us now are Muslim.I work with and count as friends a lot of Muslims. But if they are linked to terror groups they don't belong here. . . Happy to be a clown
Thats exactly what you said. "All muslims are terrorists". You said those exact words. If you dont remember you can just look at your own post or the others that quoted you.
Terrorism is nothing to do with Islam just like terrorism is nothing to do with being British even though both have been used as an excuse for violence.
You sound just like fucking Goebbels.
A mere NINETY per cent of world-wide terrorism is Koran/islam inspired.
https://thinkprogress.org/less-than-2-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-in-the-e-u-are-religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6
2% of terrorist attacks in Europe are Muslim related. And thats according to Interpol.
Two.per.cent. ". That's interesting, however theres another way to interpret that 2% like for instance only 2% of white Americans ever owned a black slave, only 2% yet ive seen you write about white slavery as if it was all whites! And not just you but many many people have never stopped banging on about white slavery in America despite it been outlawed over a hundred years ago!. See that 2% can be misleading, we know now that way more than 2% of white Americans agreed with the act of slavery, they had no problem in the "belief" that coloured people had lesser worth, way more than 2% were more than happy to turn a blind eye to the odd lynching.. All this despite never actually having anything to do with slavery personally, however I think we could both agree that the other larger % of people were just as guilty in the perpetuating of the slave trade as the 2% who actually did? | |||
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"Lol the usual speak out about terror and your a racist. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists but the ones attacking us now are Muslim.I work with and count as friends a lot of Muslims. But if they are linked to terror groups they don't belong here. . . Happy to be a clown
Thats exactly what you said. "All muslims are terrorists". You said those exact words. If you dont remember you can just look at your own post or the others that quoted you.
Terrorism is nothing to do with Islam just like terrorism is nothing to do with being British even though both have been used as an excuse for violence.
You sound just like fucking Goebbels.
A mere NINETY per cent of world-wide terrorism is Koran/islam inspired.
https://thinkprogress.org/less-than-2-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-in-the-e-u-are-religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6
2% of terrorist attacks in Europe are Muslim related. And thats according to Interpol.
Two.per.cent. .
That's interesting, however theres another way to interpret that 2% like for instance only 2% of white Americans ever owned a black slave, only 2% yet ive seen you write about white slavery as if it was all whites! And not just you but many many people have never stopped banging on about white slavery in America despite it been outlawed over a hundred years ago!.
See that 2% can be misleading, we know now that way more than 2% of white Americans agreed with the act of slavery, they had no problem in the "belief" that coloured people had lesser worth, way more than 2% were more than happy to turn a blind eye to the odd lynching.. All this despite never actually having anything to do with slavery personally, however I think we could both agree that the other larger % of people were just as guilty in the perpetuating of the slave trade as the 2% who actually did?"1. Im certain Ive never wrote about slavery on here. 2. Nothing of what you typed bore any relation to the statistic I posted. Nowhere in your long, meandering, baffling ramble did you come anywhere close to agreeing or disagreeing with what I said. The statistic I posted was in relation to a poster saying all terrorists were muslim. In europe 98% of terrorist acts were not committed by muslims. Your ramble was about 2% of people having the wealth to be slave owners but larger numbers supporting it... They are not comparable topics. Thats like me saying speeding was responsible for 98% of car crashes and you replying with "yeah but, only 2% of people like avocados". | |||
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"Lol the usual speak out about terror and your a racist. I didn't say all Muslims are terrorists but the ones attacking us now are Muslim.I work with and count as friends a lot of Muslims. But if they are linked to terror groups they don't belong here. . . Happy to be a clown
Thats exactly what you said. "All muslims are terrorists". You said those exact words. If you dont remember you can just look at your own post or the others that quoted you.
Terrorism is nothing to do with Islam just like terrorism is nothing to do with being British even though both have been used as an excuse for violence.
You sound just like fucking Goebbels.
A mere NINETY per cent of world-wide terrorism is Koran/islam inspired.
https://thinkprogress.org/less-than-2-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-in-the-e-u-are-religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6
2% of terrorist attacks in Europe are Muslim related. And thats according to Interpol.
Two.per.cent. .
That's interesting, however theres another way to interpret that 2% like for instance only 2% of white Americans ever owned a black slave, only 2% yet ive seen you write about white slavery as if it was all whites! And not just you but many many people have never stopped banging on about white slavery in America despite it been outlawed over a hundred years ago!.
See that 2% can be misleading, we know now that way more than 2% of white Americans agreed with the act of slavery, they had no problem in the "belief" that coloured people had lesser worth, way more than 2% were more than happy to turn a blind eye to the odd lynching.. All this despite never actually having anything to do with slavery personally, however I think we could both agree that the other larger % of people were just as guilty in the perpetuating of the slave trade as the 2% who actually did?
1. Im certain Ive never wrote about slavery on here.
2. Nothing of what you typed bore any relation to the statistic I posted. Nowhere in your long, meandering, baffling ramble did you come anywhere close to agreeing or disagreeing with what I said.
The statistic I posted was in relation to a poster saying all terrorists were muslim. In europe 98% of terrorist acts were not committed by muslims. Your ramble was about 2% of people having the wealth to be slave owners but larger numbers supporting it...
They are not comparable topics. Thats like me saying speeding was responsible for 98% of car crashes and you replying with "yeah but, only 2% of people like avocados".". Long boring rambling?... No you got exactly what my point was, hence why you came back with that remark! Anyhow | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame." You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in." Its people like you that cause these problems. Intolerance, distrust and hatred of people that are different from you is a major cause of all this. | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Its people like you that cause these problems. Intolerance, distrust and hatred of people that are different from you is a major cause of all this." Define my hatred and tell me why it constitutes as such. | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Its people like you that cause these problems. Intolerance, distrust and hatred of people that are different from you is a major cause of all this." Intolerance and distrust? Just after those children were murdered? No shit. You have some gall. | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in." Did I? Where did I say anything of the sort? "Let them in"? What the actual fuck are you talking about? | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Its people like you that cause these problems. Intolerance, distrust and hatred of people that are different from you is a major cause of all this." While I think today is not the day to discuss the elephant in the room , there is a limit to indecency ! Its unbelievable the degree of disrespect you show for the dead and wounded in this sad day ! SHAME ON YOU ! 
So its OUR fault ?
" Intolerance, distrust and hatred of people that are different from you is a major cause of all"
Is that what you would tell the parents of those kids torn to bits ?
Its your fault because you are not tolerant enough ?
How much lower do you want to crawl to appease these thugs ?
Its people like you with your apologetic and subservient stance that encourages these barbarians !
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Did I? Where did I say anything of the sort? "Let them in"? What the actual fuck are you talking about?" Pssst... don't let them know that the bomber was born in the UK, that will fry their noodle. -Matt | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Did I? Where did I say anything of the sort? "Let them in"? What the actual fuck are you talking about? Pssst... don't let them know that the bomber was born in the UK, that will fry their noodle. -Matt" The fact he was born in the UK makes it even worse ! Its easy to blame those foreigners .... but actually much much worse when the enemy comes from within !
British society needs a serious rethink , and if anybody had any doubts .... multiculturalism is dead and buried ..... problem is , some insist on keeping it alive....
And the PC brigade prevents any serious discussion on the matter .... so , as a result sad events like this will keep happening !
No better prove of that then the extreme positions seen on some posts on this thread ! | |||
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"it takes no rocket scientist to figure out this is what happens when you bomb other countries. bliar and co and all those that vote for war were warned about it. " 
allahu akbar !
I will forward your apology to ISIS ! | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Did I? Where did I say anything of the sort? "Let them in"? What the actual fuck are you talking about? Pssst... don't let them know that the bomber was born in the UK, that will fry their noodle. -Matt The fact he was born in the UK makes it even worse ! Its easy to blame those foreigners .... but actually much much worse when the enemy comes from within !
British society needs a serious rethink , and if anybody had any doubts .... multiculturalism is dead and buried ..... problem is , some insist on keeping it alive....
And the PC brigade prevents any serious discussion on the matter .... so , as a result sad events like this will keep happening !
No better prove of that then the extreme positions seen on some posts on this thread ! "So; the last time that Manchester was bombed - was that a "failure of multiculturalism" too? Where do you begin to disentangle "culture" Tone? Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall? | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Its people like you that cause these problems. Intolerance, distrust and hatred of people that are different from you is a major cause of all this. Intolerance and distrust? Just after those children were murdered? No shit. You have some gall. " Intolerance of western values fuels ISIS. Intolerance of muslims fuels radicalism amongst british born muslims. Intolerance of catholics fueled the violence that spawned the IRA. Intolerance of loyalists fueled the IRA. Intolerance of the basque fueled ETA. Intolerance of the Spanish fueled ETA. Intolerance of others leads to hatred, hatred leads to violence, leads to distrust, leads to more intolerance, leads to more radicalisation, leads to more violence. Its a vicious circle we've seen played out time and time again among hundreds of groups in dozens and dozens of countries, decade after decade, century after century. You can hate the individuals because they deserve it, if you hate large groups of innocent people then you're a part of the vicious circle that see's us doomed to keep repeating it until we realise that tolerance and unity is the only way to stop it. Last night was the product of hatred and intolerance and evil. But we also saw people step up from all sides of the community, christian, muslim, hindu, atheist, uk born and immigrants to work to minimise the damage. Police and counter terrorists stepped up to prevent anything more. Taxi drivers offered free lifts to get people home safe. Doctors, nurses and medics worked to save lives. Workers in the arena itself tried to get people out safely. Hotels and regular people offered shelter to those who needed it. You went online to spew hatred of an entire religion despite many of those selfless people who worked to help last night being members of that same religion. | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! " Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Did I? Where did I say anything of the sort? "Let them in"? What the actual fuck are you talking about? Pssst... don't let them know that the bomber was born in the UK, that will fry their noodle. -Matt The fact he was born in the UK makes it even worse ! Its easy to blame those foreigners .... but actually much much worse when the enemy comes from within !
British society needs a serious rethink , and if anybody had any doubts .... multiculturalism is dead and buried ..... problem is , some insist on keeping it alive....
And the PC brigade prevents any serious discussion on the matter .... so , as a result sad events like this will keep happening !
No better prove of that then the extreme positions seen on some posts on this thread !
So; the last time that Manchester was bombed - was that a "failure of multiculturalism" too?
Where do you begin to disentangle "culture" Tone? Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall?
"Today Jimmy , out of respect for the victims I don't want to get too much into it ! But trying to say all terrorism is the same does not help ! The causes for last time have been sorted ! This one is still far from it ! But your question for now, merits a simple reply ! "Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall? " You realise that all the faiths and nations you mention have two things in common ; 1- Christianism ! 2- Societies based on Jewish/Christian values ! Neither the fore mentioned strap on suicide vests ! | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! " Oh good grief. As my wife would say: "There are just not enough non-toxic crayons for me to try and explain this to you". -Matt | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? " Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES  | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Did I? Where did I say anything of the sort? "Let them in"? What the actual fuck are you talking about? Pssst... don't let them know that the bomber was born in the UK, that will fry their noodle. -Matt The fact he was born in the UK makes it even worse ! Its easy to blame those foreigners .... but actually much much worse when the enemy comes from within !
British society needs a serious rethink , and if anybody had any doubts .... multiculturalism is dead and buried ..... problem is , some insist on keeping it alive....
And the PC brigade prevents any serious discussion on the matter .... so , as a result sad events like this will keep happening !
No better prove of that then the extreme positions seen on some posts on this thread !
So; the last time that Manchester was bombed - was that a "failure of multiculturalism" too?
Where do you begin to disentangle "culture" Tone? Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall?
Today Jimmy , out of respect for the victims I don't want to get too much into it !
But trying to say all terrorism is the same does not help !
The causes for last time have been sorted !
This one is still far from it !
But your question for now, merits a simple reply !
"Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall? "
You realise that all the faiths and nations you mention have two things in common ;
1- Christianism !
2- Societies based on Jewish/Christian values !
Neither the fore mentioned strap on suicide vests ! "Yeah, I know they were all broadly christian, numbnuts. That was part of my point. I seem to recall ETA not being averse to the odd bombing. And yet, in spite of having been christiansed, they are all different cultures. | |||
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"you shouldn't bruv
Why is Willwill69u saying he wouldnt want to be Muslim? What is he implying ? Does he know something we don't ? Need to report him asap...
Well its looking more and more like a suicide bomber so who do you think people will associate that with i immediately thought isis so i agree that anti muslim feelings will be stirred
Just a note
Sissy is a terrorist group just as the ira were
Some who are part of sissy claim to be Muslim just as some of the ira claim to be Catholic
They are not they are murderers
It must be propagated into everyone's thinking that a murderous Christian does not make Christians murderers and the same goes for sex, ethnicity , colour , or any religion xxx
Don't draw parallels between those scumbags and the IRA, there is NO EQUIVALENCE OR COMPARISON.
The IRA never suicide bombed a pop concert full of kids or drove lorry's into pedestrians .. the list goes on.
The IRA WERE NOT motivated by religion, they were motivated by constitutional position.
Some people need to wake up and stop appeasing and pussyfooting..
Quite sickening.
Ill tell you whats sickening is that anyone can portray any act of terrorism as anything other than cowardice.
The ira killed many innocents in their time including women and children or do omagh,warrington and the grand hotel not count?so with the same logic we can assume the British military to be terrorists,slaughter of children on Bloody Sunday along with the children killed in the Dublin,Monaghan bombings in which they colluded with loyalists,never mind the thousands of child deaths you and your American masters are responsible for in Iraq...very warped view on terrorism there fella..let's be honest we could carry on for a month with British military child deaths throughout your imperialist colonialist worldwide slaughter....hypocrisy knows no bounds "Where exactly have i said i agreed with bloody sunday or the iraq war so id love to know how ive been hypocritical | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES "Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith.. Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they? and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book.. a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists.. | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Did I? Where did I say anything of the sort? "Let them in"? What the actual fuck are you talking about? Pssst... don't let them know that the bomber was born in the UK, that will fry their noodle. -Matt The fact he was born in the UK makes it even worse ! Its easy to blame those foreigners .... but actually much much worse when the enemy comes from within !
British society needs a serious rethink , and if anybody had any doubts .... multiculturalism is dead and buried ..... problem is , some insist on keeping it alive....
And the PC brigade prevents any serious discussion on the matter .... so , as a result sad events like this will keep happening !
No better prove of that then the extreme positions seen on some posts on this thread !
So; the last time that Manchester was bombed - was that a "failure of multiculturalism" too?
Where do you begin to disentangle "culture" Tone? Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall?
Today Jimmy , out of respect for the victims I don't want to get too much into it !
But trying to say all terrorism is the same does not help !
The causes for last time have been sorted !
This one is still far from it !
But your question for now, merits a simple reply !
"Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall? "
You realise that all the faiths and nations you mention have two things in common ;
1- Christianism !
2- Societies based on Jewish/Christian values !
Neither the fore mentioned strap on suicide vests !
Yeah, I know they were all broadly christian, numbnuts.
That was part of my point. I seem to recall ETA not being averse to the odd bombing.
And yet, in spite of having been christiansed, they are all different cultures.
"Yes they are.... but all linked by a more or less common set of core values ! | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists.."You are talking about the old testament ! Christianity is dealt with in the NEW testament ! "and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book.." Might be , point is the islam is a religion of conquest,and the Kuran does advocate that by force....or if not ... death to the infidels ! "a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists.." I don't believe that , all religions have extremist , but it doesn't mean I should ignore the predatory nature of islam ! | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists..". Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do. However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!. I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion. Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?. | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Did I? Where did I say anything of the sort? "Let them in"? What the actual fuck are you talking about? Pssst... don't let them know that the bomber was born in the UK, that will fry their noodle. -Matt The fact he was born in the UK makes it even worse ! Its easy to blame those foreigners .... but actually much much worse when the enemy comes from within !
British society needs a serious rethink , and if anybody had any doubts .... multiculturalism is dead and buried ..... problem is , some insist on keeping it alive....
And the PC brigade prevents any serious discussion on the matter .... so , as a result sad events like this will keep happening !
No better prove of that then the extreme positions seen on some posts on this thread !
So; the last time that Manchester was bombed - was that a "failure of multiculturalism" too?
Where do you begin to disentangle "culture" Tone? Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall?
Today Jimmy , out of respect for the victims I don't want to get too much into it !
But trying to say all terrorism is the same does not help !
The causes for last time have been sorted !
This one is still far from it !
But your question for now, merits a simple reply !
"Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall? "
You realise that all the faiths and nations you mention have two things in common ;
1- Christianism !
2- Societies based on Jewish/Christian values !
Neither the fore mentioned strap on suicide vests !
Yeah, I know they were all broadly christian, numbnuts.
That was part of my point. I seem to recall ETA not being averse to the odd bombing.
And yet, in spite of having been christiansed, they are all different cultures.
Yes they are.... but all linked by a more or less common set of core values !"I'm sure they'd disagree, Tony. Some to the point of blowing you up, as per my example. | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
"Its done for other reasons besides religion !
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
Its done for other reasons besides religion !
A lot of women on here actually prefer a "cut" cock ! "so they do it because some women prefer it?? what a weird reason to genital mutilation | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
Its done for other reasons besides religion !
A lot of women on here actually prefer a "cut" cock ! so they do it because some women prefer it?? what a weird reason to genital mutilation"I thought being cut or uncut is not to do with religion. Higher in the US. | |||
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"I saw this thread when it was posted. I told myself not to read it. I read it anyway. For fuck's sake. These kids are barely fucking cold and there is point scoring going on. For shame. You know we are right. Week after week the death count rises in Europe and you want to talk about holding hands like Auld land Syne and how they OT is worse than the Qu'ran. Guffaw guffaw. It's people like you that let them in. Did I? Where did I say anything of the sort? "Let them in"? What the actual fuck are you talking about? Pssst... don't let them know that the bomber was born in the UK, that will fry their noodle. -Matt The fact he was born in the UK makes it even worse ! Its easy to blame those foreigners .... but actually much much worse when the enemy comes from within !
British society needs a serious rethink , and if anybody had any doubts .... multiculturalism is dead and buried ..... problem is , some insist on keeping it alive....
And the PC brigade prevents any serious discussion on the matter .... so , as a result sad events like this will keep happening !
No better prove of that then the extreme positions seen on some posts on this thread !
So; the last time that Manchester was bombed - was that a "failure of multiculturalism" too?
Where do you begin to disentangle "culture" Tone? Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall?
Today Jimmy , out of respect for the victims I don't want to get too much into it !
But trying to say all terrorism is the same does not help !
The causes for last time have been sorted !
This one is still far from it !
But your question for now, merits a simple reply !
"Should we be keeping Catholics and Protestants separate? Were ETA right, should the Basques be separate? Wales, Scotland, Cornwall? "
You realise that all the faiths and nations you mention have two things in common ;
1- Christianism !
2- Societies based on Jewish/Christian values !
Neither the fore mentioned strap on suicide vests ! "Yeah you forget in the not too distant past protestants snd catholics fought against one another in a 30 year pan-european war which racked up more deaths than the entire napoleonic war. Znd before mass firearms were even a thing. Oh lets not forget the protestants and catholics burning one another at the stake. And both faiths cleansing their territories of Jews. Face it there is no such thing as judeo/christian intergration of faith/ideas/culture. Remove the scary bogeyman of the day and Christians will always persicute one another and Jews. Pre 12th century it was northern european pagans, 13th-17th century it was Catholics vs Protestants with jewish cleansing spread about. 17th-18th century it was christians vs enlightenment thinkers and atheists. All of the abrahamic faiths are equally as guilty as one another for persecution and human misery. | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
Its done for other reasons besides religion !
A lot of women on here actually prefer a "cut" cock ! ". Ok... Could you tell me what other reasons they do it for?. I won't except that this perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest couple got home from work one night and decided to hack their infant child's foreskin off because they thought he might have a better success on a swinger's site as an adult because some women prefer that look? | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
"Ummm.....you do realise that a majority of Americans get circumsised and not for religious reasons. Youve picked the absolute worst example possible. | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
"I also know good people turn to torturing because they believe it's good for the nation. Nothing to do with religion. Many military do it from all over the world. Not to take the blame away from religion. Another example halal meat. In South America good Catholics kill their animal stock the exact same way. They may not bless their food, but we say prayer before we eat it. | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ?" Why do you need people to agree with you? We're fighting ISIS. We bombed Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya etc. What more do you need? | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ?" Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
Its done for other reasons besides religion !
A lot of women on here actually prefer a "cut" cock ! .
Ok... Could you tell me what other reasons they do it for?.
I won't except that this perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest couple got home from work one night and decided to hack their infant child's foreskin off because they thought he might have a better success on a swinger's site as an adult because some women prefer that look?"Health ones ! when a kid or teenager cant pull the foreskin back , it becomes painful and prone to infection !
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ?" Rubbish and ignorant you disgust me | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
I also know good people turn to torturing because they believe it's good for the nation. Nothing to do with religion. Many military do it from all over the world. Not to take the blame away from religion.
Another example halal meat. In South America good Catholics kill their animal stock the exact same way. They may not bless their food, but we say prayer before we eat it. ". NO I said do you know any other perfectly nice respectable hard working LAW abiding honest folk who cut off their 8 day old sons foreskin! Could you site me a case, let me be clear, I'm not taking about bad people doing bad things, I'm talking about good people doing bad things for a religious reason, in every other way they've lead the most charmed, pacifist, volunteering, caring life... And yet! | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. " But that all sounds terribly inconvenent.... | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. " ? I hope your not Serious ? | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. " BS... lol.... Right wing terrorism ? where ? Name one right wing terrorist or political leader that tops Staline or Pol pot when it comes to killing people ? "being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians." BS ! again ! stop apologising for what our ancestors did ! History is full of cycles of one nation screwing over another ! I have dealt with different nationalities and races on all continents except Oceania ! In my experience, cultural diferences aside , its not as much about race or nationality , but more about personality ! | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ?Rubbish and ignorant you disgust me" Dont blame you .... that truth can have that effect sometimes.....but... is your denial any better ? | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. ? I hope your not Serious ? " Well I finished by saying individuals are the problem not nations, cultures or religions. Did you miss that part? Or do you mean that if you want to tar a religion with over 2 billion followers with the label of violent fanatics because of less than 30,000 it actually is correct to label all English people as violent because of few thousand football fans? | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. ? I hope your not Serious ? " Errr.. most of British people were Catholic prior to Henry the 8th and the reformation.. The British sought control of Ireland for strategic reasons initially ie.. to prevent Spanish colonialists gaining a foothold from which to attack the England, Scotland or Wales from.. For all the faults of the British and all their faux Pas I'm thankful they kept the frankly brutal Spanish colonialists and the inquisition off of Ireland's lands. As for the "white devil" "colonialism" thing.. Islam is a violent theology that spread through genocide and coercion.. The Muslim slave trade spanned nearly 1400 years, killing and estimated 80 million black Africans in transit to be sold alone in this time, ended only when the British and Americans put their foot down. This is before mentioning the ottoman raids on American ships, the captives taken from them and enslaved.. resulting in the formation of the American navy to put an end to them. I'm all for tolerance but... People seem willfully clueless and reluctant to admit Islam is a fundamentally Savage mediaeval nationalist rotten cult that has caused nothing but misery and suffering since being brought into existence by an illiterate pederast. It sickens me people can commit such heinous evil , invoke a religious conceit then evade culpability. People need to be real. Facts are facts, if you perceive them as hate then you're in denial and a part of a problem. | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. ? I hope your not Serious ? Errr.. most of British people were Catholic prior to Henry the 8th and the reformation.. The British sought control of Ireland for strategic reasons initially ie.. to prevent Spanish colonialists gaining a foothold from which to attack the England, Scotland or Wales from.. For all the faults of the British and all their faux Pas I'm thankful they kept the frankly brutal Spanish colonialists and the inquisition off of Ireland's lands. As for the "white devil" "colonialism" thing.. Islam is a violent theology that spread through genocide and coercion.. The Muslim slave trade spanned nearly 1400 years, killing and estimated 80 million black Africans in transit to be sold alone in this time, ended only when the British and Americans put their foot down. This is before mentioning the ottoman raids on American ships, the captives taken from them and enslaved.. resulting in the formation of the American navy to put an end to them. I'm all for tolerance but... People seem willfully clueless and reluctant to admit Islam is a fundamentally Savage mediaeval nationalist rotten cult that has caused nothing but misery and suffering since being brought into existence by an illiterate pederast. It sickens me people can commit such heinous evil , invoke a religious conceit then evade culpability. People need to be real. Facts are facts, if you perceive them as hate then you're in denial and a part of a problem. " Additionally.. British colonialism? in India probably saved hundreds of millions of Hindus , Sikhs and other indigenous religious from savage persecution from Muslims. The amount of genocide Muslims have committed in India against indigenous faiths in beyond sickening.. over he course of their presence in India in probably surpasses hundreds of millions. It's laughable when the Brits or the yanks are singled out and blamed for everything. Please, read a history book!!! | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. BS... lol.... Right wing terrorism ? where ? Name one right wing terrorist or political leader that tops Staline or Pol pot when it comes to killing people ? "being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians." BS ! again ! stop apologising for what our ancestors did ! History is full of cycles of one nation screwing over another ! I have dealt with different nationalities and races on all continents except Oceania ! In my experience, cultural diferences aside , its not as much about race or nationality , but more about personality ! "Sooooo You haven't heard about any right-wing terrorism... The name Anders Brevik, even? Were Stalin and Pol Pot Muslims then? Also; way to miss the point about the "being British is the problem" post. Maybe we ned a sarcasm, font just for you. | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
Ummm.....you do realise that a majority of Americans get circumsised and not for religious reasons. Youve picked the absolute worst example possible.". No not really, it's quite clear in Jewish law about the method and the date and who to perform it, it's clear that burying the foreskin afterwards to appease your desired God is required, its a covenant with God, Christians picked up on it as well mainly as a way of taking pleasure out of the sexual act and to try to stop that sinful wanking!. When you say "most Americans" your not really talking Chinese Americans or Mexican Americans, natives, Russians.. Your talking Christian Americans or white ones, culturally? left over from Christianity. Like I said theres no perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk come on there baby sons 8th day and think hmm you no what he needs.. His foreskin hacking off! | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. ? I hope your not Serious ? Errr.. most of British people were Catholic prior to Henry the 8th and the reformation.. The British sought control of Ireland for strategic reasons initially ie.. to prevent Spanish colonialists gaining a foothold from which to attack the England, Scotland or Wales from.. For all the faults of the British and all their faux Pas I'm thankful they kept the frankly brutal Spanish colonialists and the inquisition off of Ireland's lands. As for the "white devil" "colonialism" thing.. Islam is a violent theology that spread through genocide and coercion.. The Muslim slave trade spanned nearly 1400 years, killing and estimated 80 million black Africans in transit to be sold alone in this time, ended only when the British and Americans put their foot down. This is before mentioning the ottoman raids on American ships, the captives taken from them and enslaved.. resulting in the formation of the American navy to put an end to them. I'm all for tolerance but... People seem willfully clueless and reluctant to admit Islam is a fundamentally Savage mediaeval nationalist rotten cult that has caused nothing but misery and suffering since being brought into existence by an illiterate pederast. It sickens me people can commit such heinous evil , invoke a religious conceit then evade culpability. People need to be real. Facts are facts, if you perceive them as hate then you're in denial and a part of a problem. " Are you being remotely serious? Hitler was a christian. The crusades were christian invading forces. African colonisation by Europeans was partly justified by christian conversion. The genocide of native americans was similarly justified by christian conversions. 140 million died between war and disease. Have you read about the Trail of Tears? And the aboriginal peoples of Canada and Australia. Historian Niall Ferguson has called what the British did in Ireland "ethnic cleansing". Between 1641 and 1652 the Irish population went from 1.5 million to 600,000 because of Cromwells actions. 600,000 dead, 300,000 sold into slavery. A further 100,000 children were sold into slavery in the Americas in the years after. You have no idea what you're talking about, youre just ignorant if you think the English saved us from the Spanish. | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. BS... lol.... Right wing terrorism ? where ? Name one right wing terrorist or political leader that tops Staline or Pol pot when it comes to killing people ? "being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians." BS ! again ! stop apologising for what our ancestors did ! History is full of cycles of one nation screwing over another ! I have dealt with different nationalities and races on all continents except Oceania ! In my experience, cultural diferences aside , its not as much about race or nationality , but more about personality !
Sooooo
You haven't heard about any right-wing terrorism... The name Anders Brevik, even?
Were Stalin and Pol Pot Muslims then?
Also; way to miss the point about the "being British is the problem" post.
Maybe we ned a sarcasm, font just for you. "I somehow doubt the relatives of Stalin's or Paul Potts victims would approve of there ordeal and trauma being appropriated, reduced to a glib deflective rebuttal and aside by someone wishing to trivialise and obfuscate the flaws, inherent problems and heinous actions of followers of a 6th century cult... There's no real equivalence beyond superficial. Be real. | |||
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" For all the faults of the British and all their faux Pas I'm thankful they kept the frankly brutal Spanish colonialists and the inquisition off of Ireland's lands. " Faux pas....attempted genocide is a faux pas now... And yes wiping out and selling 2 thirds of a countries population is an attempted genocide. | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. BS... lol.... Right wing terrorism ? where ? Name one right wing terrorist or political leader that tops Staline or Pol pot when it comes to killing people ? "being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians." BS ! again ! stop apologising for what our ancestors did ! History is full of cycles of one nation screwing over another ! I have dealt with different nationalities and races on all continents except Oceania ! In my experience, cultural diferences aside , its not as much about race or nationality , but more about personality !
Sooooo
You haven't heard about any right-wing terrorism... The name Anders Brevik, even?
Were Stalin and Pol Pot Muslims then?
Also; way to miss the point about the "being British is the problem" post.
Maybe we ned a sarcasm, font just for you. "Think you missed the point Jimmy ! "Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe." My response was to counter the notion that right wing being the problem ,and right wing terrorism ! Pol Pot ans Staline were Communist ! And if Breivic is all the right wing terrorism you have ... then you help prove my point ! And how did I miss the point on "being British being the problem " ? | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. BS... lol.... Right wing terrorism ? where ? Name one right wing terrorist or political leader that tops Staline or Pol pot when it comes to killing people ? "being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians." BS ! again ! stop apologising for what our ancestors did ! History is full of cycles of one nation screwing over another ! I have dealt with different nationalities and races on all continents except Oceania ! In my experience, cultural diferences aside , its not as much about race or nationality , but more about personality !
Sooooo
You haven't heard about any right-wing terrorism... The name Anders Brevik, even?
Were Stalin and Pol Pot Muslims then?
Also; way to miss the point about the "being British is the problem" post.
Maybe we ned a sarcasm, font just for you.
Think you missed the point Jimmy !
"Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe."
My response was to counter the notion that right wing being the problem ,and right wing terrorism !
Pol Pot ans Staline were Communist !
And if Breivic is all the right wing terrorism you have ... then you help prove my point !
And how did I miss the point on "being British being the problem " ?
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. ? I hope your not Serious ? Errr.. most of British people were Catholic prior to Henry the 8th and the reformation.. The British sought control of Ireland for strategic reasons initially ie.. to prevent Spanish colonialists gaining a foothold from which to attack the England, Scotland or Wales from.. For all the faults of the British and all their faux Pas I'm thankful they kept the frankly brutal Spanish colonialists and the inquisition off of Ireland's lands. As for the "white devil" "colonialism" thing.. Islam is a violent theology that spread through genocide and coercion.. The Muslim slave trade spanned nearly 1400 years, killing and estimated 80 million black Africans in transit to be sold alone in this time, ended only when the British and Americans put their foot down. This is before mentioning the ottoman raids on American ships, the captives taken from them and enslaved.. resulting in the formation of the American navy to put an end to them. I'm all for tolerance but... People seem willfully clueless and reluctant to admit Islam is a fundamentally Savage mediaeval nationalist rotten cult that has caused nothing but misery and suffering since being brought into existence by an illiterate pederast. It sickens me people can commit such heinous evil , invoke a religious conceit then evade culpability. People need to be real. Facts are facts, if you perceive them as hate then you're in denial and a part of a problem. Are you being remotely serious? Hitler was a christian. The crusades were christian invading forces. African colonisation by Europeans was partly justified by christian conversion. The genocide of native americans was similarly justified by christian conversions. 140 million died between war and disease. Have you read about the Trail of Tears? And the aboriginal peoples of Canada and Australia. Historian Niall Ferguson has called what the British did in Ireland "ethnic cleansing". Between 1641 and 1652 the Irish population went from 1.5 million to 600,000 because of Cromwells actions. 600,000 dead, 300,000 sold into slavery. A further 100,000 children were sold into slavery in the Americas in the years after. You have no idea what you're talking about, youre just ignorant if you think the English saved us from the Spanish." Hitler was not Christian, he tried to dismantle, scandalise and discredit the church and eventually supplant it with his nationalist socialist ideology.. you obviously have a woeful knowledge of ww2 to even say such things. Stalin outlawed orthodoxy.. turning one of Moscow's historical churches into a public swimming pool!! I'm well acquainted with Irish history thank you. Frankly I'm not going to dredge it up for the purposes of a fatuous argument that detracts from the topic at hand. | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
Ummm.....you do realise that a majority of Americans get circumsised and not for religious reasons. Youve picked the absolute worst example possible..
No not really, it's quite clear in Jewish law about the method and the date and who to perform it, it's clear that burying the foreskin afterwards to appease your desired God is required, its a covenant with God, Christians picked up on it as well mainly as a way of taking pleasure out of the sexual act and to try to stop that sinful wanking!.
When you say "most Americans" your not really talking Chinese Americans or Mexican Americans, natives, Russians.. Your talking Christian Americans or white ones, culturally? left over from Christianity.
Like I said theres no perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk come on there baby sons 8th day and think hmm you no what he needs.. His foreskin hacking off!"You just chose the wrong point to argue. "In 2005, about 56 percent of male newborns were circumcised prior to release from the hospital according to statistics from the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. Data from a national survey conducted from 1999 to 2002 found that the overall prevalence of male circumcision in the United States was 79%." | |||
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"This is A religious problem ! Yes il say it ! It's an Islamic problem not a Race problem ! Is paedophilia therefore a Catholic problem..? Lame response ! Does Catholicism promote paedophilia ? NO Does Islam call for the conversion , submission or death of non believers ? YES
Th bible calls for stoning and plucking eyes out etc and guess what most sensible people ignore it as do the vast majority of people who are of the Muslim faith..
Not all Catholics fire bomb clinics or murder people who happen to work in abortion clinics do they?
and guess what most sensible people look logically and don't say all of that faith are radical or will murder in their perception of that book..
a class of children has more logical thinking that anyone who believes that all of any faith are extremists...
Getting a bad person to do bad things is relatively easy, there already bad any insensitive will do.
However if you want to get a good person to do bad things you really do require religion!.
I've said this before, perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk are more than willing to hack off their infant child's foreskin for no other reason than religion.
Do you think there's any other perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk who get home and just decide to hack off their infant child's foreskin?.
Ummm.....you do realise that a majority of Americans get circumsised and not for religious reasons. Youve picked the absolute worst example possible..
No not really, it's quite clear in Jewish law about the method and the date and who to perform it, it's clear that burying the foreskin afterwards to appease your desired God is required, its a covenant with God, Christians picked up on it as well mainly as a way of taking pleasure out of the sexual act and to try to stop that sinful wanking!.
When you say "most Americans" your not really talking Chinese Americans or Mexican Americans, natives, Russians.. Your talking Christian Americans or white ones, culturally? left over from Christianity.
Like I said theres no perfectly nice respectable hard working law abiding honest folk come on there baby sons 8th day and think hmm you no what he needs.. His foreskin hacking off!"You persist on that misconceived notion! You asked for other reasons before ! Guess you didn't read my reply ! Suggest you scroll back and read ! | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. ? I hope your not Serious ? Errr.. most of British people were Catholic prior to Henry the 8th and the reformation.. The British sought control of Ireland for strategic reasons initially ie.. to prevent Spanish colonialists gaining a foothold from which to attack the England, Scotland or Wales from.. For all the faults of the British and all their faux Pas I'm thankful they kept the frankly brutal Spanish colonialists and the inquisition off of Ireland's lands. As for the "white devil" "colonialism" thing.. Islam is a violent theology that spread through genocide and coercion.. The Muslim slave trade spanned nearly 1400 years, killing and estimated 80 million black Africans in transit to be sold alone in this time, ended only when the British and Americans put their foot down. This is before mentioning the ottoman raids on American ships, the captives taken from them and enslaved.. resulting in the formation of the American navy to put an end to them. I'm all for tolerance but... People seem willfully clueless and reluctant to admit Islam is a fundamentally Savage mediaeval nationalist rotten cult that has caused nothing but misery and suffering since being brought into existence by an illiterate pederast. It sickens me people can commit such heinous evil , invoke a religious conceit then evade culpability. People need to be real. Facts are facts, if you perceive them as hate then you're in denial and a part of a problem. Are you being remotely serious? Hitler was a christian. The crusades were christian invading forces. African colonisation by Europeans was partly justified by christian conversion. The genocide of native americans was similarly justified by christian conversions. 140 million died between war and disease. Have you read about the Trail of Tears? And the aboriginal peoples of Canada and Australia. Historian Niall Ferguson has called what the British did in Ireland "ethnic cleansing". Between 1641 and 1652 the Irish population went from 1.5 million to 600,000 because of Cromwells actions. 600,000 dead, 300,000 sold into slavery. A further 100,000 children were sold into slavery in the Americas in the years after. You have no idea what you're talking about, youre just ignorant if you think the English saved us from the Spanish. Hitler was not Christian, he tried to dismantle, scandalise and discredit the church and eventually supplant it with his nationalist socialist ideology.. you obviously have a woeful knowledge of ww2 to even say such things. Stalin outlawed orthodoxy.. turning one of Moscow's historical churches into a public swimming pool!! I'm well acquainted with Irish history thank you. Frankly I'm not going to dredge it up for the purposes of a fatuous argument that detracts from the topic at hand. " Clearly your not familiar with it. Because you called the systemic murder of Irish a faux pas. And youre also not familiar with Hitlers doctrine of "positive christianity". Hitler opposed the Chirch itself because it was a rival power but he promoted his "positive christianity" in its place https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_Christianity There you go you can read up about it and theres one less thing to be completely ignorant about. | |||
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"Why can't people have the Bollocks to Admit that Islam IS The Problem ? Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being English IS the problem when it comes to football violence? Why don't we have the bollocks to admit being right wing IS the problem given that right wing terrorism occurs more frequently than Muslim terrorism in Europe. Why dont we have the bollocks to admit being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians. Maybe its individuals that are the problem and not British people as a whole. BS... lol.... Right wing terrorism ? where ? Name one right wing terrorist or political leader that tops Staline or Pol pot when it comes to killing people ? "being British IS the problem when it comes to racism after the way British people have historically treated catholics, Indian, black people, Pakistani, carribean and asians." BS ! again ! stop apologising for what our ancestors did ! History is full of cycles of one nation screwing over another ! I have dealt with different nationalities and races on all continents except Oceania ! In my experience, cultural diferences aside , its not as much about race or nationality , but more about personality !
Sooooo
You haven't heard about any right-wing terrorism... The name Anders Brevik, even?
Were Stalin and Pol Pot Muslims then?
Also; way to miss the point about the "being British is the problem" post.
Maybe we ned a sarcasm, font just for you. ". To be fair Anders brevik was described by most of the media as a Christian terrorist and fundamental?ist and he was protestant and he did say he referred to himself as a modern day Crusader wanting to rid Islam from Christian Europe. I know the media now like to refer to him as a right wing terrorist instead and he does hold right wing political views as well.. He also uncannily resembles a fellow forumite | |||
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