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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Continue here, macron wins the election, what does it mean for the future of france and eu?

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin

Future of France will depend on their parliamentary elections. If EN can get enough seats Macron will have his mandate.

The future of the EU is secure France and Germany arent going anywhere now and their the anchors.

The US elections for the mid terms could prove to be the death knell of the alt right movement. They havent made the gains they needed in Europe and a loss of support in the US will be the end of it.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Continue here, macron wins the election, what does it mean for the future of france and eu?"

Great news for Islam

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock

Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife? "

Come on..... they're French!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife? "

France's very own Bliar who loves the EU and is also Merkel's new Toy Boy.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife? "
Didnt Mrs May lose 114 documents relating to paedophilia and MPs while Home Secretary ...Strange that..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Well it just means that now we have a Business man as a president ! We'll see how it turns out but it's still way better than LaPen being president imo.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Continue here, macron wins the election, what does it mean for the future of france and eu?"
...."Merkel wins France!"

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife? "

Sour grapes much?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

We have this saying in sweden, the reason why he got elected is cos the people are not ready for a change, which means it have to get really bad before it gets better.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Continue here, macron wins the election, what does it mean for the future of france and eu?....

"Merkel wins France!""

as opposed to what the other headline would have been which would have been

"the racist win france"......

because any answer that would have started "i endorsed the racist because........" is going into layers that i can't help you win!

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife? "

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

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By *alaga coupleCouple  over a year ago

costa del sol (perm)

I just wanted to say: Well done France.

So happy

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

As a french citizen i really hope the Front National (politic group of Le Pen) will never have access to the president seat, they are nothing else but scared and ignorant, so racist, people.

They just got better at hiding it, but most of the french people will tell you the same.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Continue here, macron wins the election, what does it mean for the future of france and eu?

Great news for Islam "

Here's the view of Le Monde journalist Yves Mamou:

" Emmanuel Macron, Useful Infidel, is not a supporter of terrorism or Islamism. It is worse: he does not even see the threat. In the wake of the gruesome attacks of November 13, 2015 in Paris, Macron said that French society must assume a "share of responsibility" in the "soil in which jihadism thrives."

Macron comes close to accusing the French of being racists and "Islamophobes". "We have a share of responsibility," he warned, "because this totalitarianism feeds on the mistrust that we have allowed to settle in society.... and if tomorrow we do not take care, it will divide them even more ".

Consequently, Macron said, French society "must change and be more open." More open to what? To Islam, of course.

On April 20, 2017, after an Islamist terrorist killed one police officer and wounded two others in Paris, Macron said: "I am not going to invent an anti-terrorist program in one night". After two years of continuous terrorist attacks on French territory, the presidential candidate said he had not taken the country's security problems into account?

Moreover, on April 6, during the presidential campaign, professor Barbara Lefebvre, who has authored books on Islamism, revealed to the audience of the France2 television program L'Emission Politique, the presence on Macron's campaign team of Mohamed Saou. It was Saou, apparently, a departmental manager of Macron's political movement, "En Marche" ("Forward"), who promoted on Twitter the classic Islamist statement: "I am not Charlie".

Sensing a potential scandal, Macron dismissed Saou, but on April 14, invited onto Beur FM, a Muslim French radio station, Macron was caught saying on a "hot mic" (believing himself off the air): "He [Saou] did a couple things a little bit radical. But anyway, Mohamed is a good guy, a very good guy".

"Very good", presumably, because Mohamed Saou was working to rally Muslim voters to Macron.

Is Saou an isolated case? Of course not. On April 28, Mohamed Louizi, author of the book Why I Quit Muslim Brotherhood, released a detailed article on Facebook that accused Macron of being a "hostage of the Islamist vote". Republished by Dreuz, a Christian anti-Islamist website, Louizi's article gave names and dates, explaining how Macron's political movement has largely been infiltrated by Muslim Brotherhood militants. It will be interesting to see how many of them will be candidates in Macron's movement in the next parliamentary elections.

On April 24, the Union of Islamic Organisations of France (UOIF), generally known as the French representative of Muslim Brotherhood, publicly called on Muslims to "vote against the xenophobic, anti-Semitic and racist ideas of the National Front and [we] call to massively vote for Mr. Macron."

Why?

Is Macron an open promoter of Islamism in France? It is more politically correct to say that he is a "globalist" and an "open promoter of multiculturalism". As such, he apparently does not consider Islamism a national threat because, for him, the French nation, or, as he has said, French culture, does not really exist. Macron has, in fact, denied that France is a country with a specific culture, a specific history, and a specific literature or art. On February 22, visiting the French expatriates in London, Macron said: "French culture does not exist, there is a culture in France and it is diverse"."

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Continue here, macron wins the election, what does it mean for the future of france and eu?....

"Merkel wins France!"

as opposed to what the other headline would have been which would have been

"the racist win france"......

because any answer that would have started "i endorsed the racist because........" is going into layers that i can't help you win!

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...No...the other headline would have been...."Merkel lost France!".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then? "

A paedophile and a groomer.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Continue here, macron wins the election, what does it mean for the future of france and eu?

Great news for Islam

Here's the view of Le Monde journalist Yves Mamou:

" Emmanuel Macron, Useful Infidel, is not a supporter of terrorism or Islamism. It is worse: he does not even see the threat. In the wake of the gruesome attacks of November 13, 2015 in Paris, Macron said that French society must assume a "share of responsibility" in the "soil in which jihadism thrives."

Macron comes close to accusing the French of being racists and "Islamophobes". "We have a share of responsibility," he warned, "because this totalitarianism feeds on the mistrust that we have allowed to settle in society.... and if tomorrow we do not take care, it will divide them even more ".

Consequently, Macron said, French society "must change and be more open." More open to what? To Islam, of course.

On April 20, 2017, after an Islamist terrorist killed one police officer and wounded two others in Paris, Macron said: "I am not going to invent an anti-terrorist program in one night". After two years of continuous terrorist attacks on French territory, the presidential candidate said he had not taken the country's security problems into account?

Moreover, on April 6, during the presidential campaign, professor Barbara Lefebvre, who has authored books on Islamism, revealed to the audience of the France2 television program L'Emission Politique, the presence on Macron's campaign team of Mohamed Saou. It was Saou, apparently, a departmental manager of Macron's political movement, "En Marche" ("Forward"), who promoted on Twitter the classic Islamist statement: "I am not Charlie".

Sensing a potential scandal, Macron dismissed Saou, but on April 14, invited onto Beur FM, a Muslim French radio station, Macron was caught saying on a "hot mic" (believing himself off the air): "He [Saou] did a couple things a little bit radical. But anyway, Mohamed is a good guy, a very good guy".

"Very good", presumably, because Mohamed Saou was working to rally Muslim voters to Macron.

Is Saou an isolated case? Of course not. On April 28, Mohamed Louizi, author of the book Why I Quit Muslim Brotherhood, released a detailed article on Facebook that accused Macron of being a "hostage of the Islamist vote". Republished by Dreuz, a Christian anti-Islamist website, Louizi's article gave names and dates, explaining how Macron's political movement has largely been infiltrated by Muslim Brotherhood militants. It will be interesting to see how many of them will be candidates in Macron's movement in the next parliamentary elections.

On April 24, the Union of Islamic Organisations of France (UOIF), generally known as the French representative of Muslim Brotherhood, publicly called on Muslims to "vote against the xenophobic, anti-Semitic and racist ideas of the National Front and [we] call to massively vote for Mr. Macron."

Why?

Is Macron an open promoter of Islamism in France? It is more politically correct to say that he is a "globalist" and an "open promoter of multiculturalism". As such, he apparently does not consider Islamism a national threat because, for him, the French nation, or, as he has said, French culture, does not really exist. Macron has, in fact, denied that France is a country with a specific culture, a specific history, and a specific literature or art. On February 22, visiting the French expatriates in London, Macron said: "French culture does not exist, there is a culture in France and it is diverse"."

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and again.... is that better than what the racist would have stood for?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i think it is interesting that everyone knocked the person who was the centrist for all sorts of reasons..... but have shyed away all this time from knocking the opponent......

and are still doing it in this thread....

yes, for a lot of people it may be supporting the lesser of two evils.....

but the see here that some people here would have preferred the racist candidate even for oppotunistic and selfish reason says shedloads..........

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i think it is interesting that everyone knocked the person who was the centrist for all sorts of reasons..... but have shyed away all this time from knocking the opponent......

and are still doing it in this thread....

yes, for a lot of people it may be supporting the lesser of two evils.....

but the see here that some people here would have preferred the racist candidate even for oppotunistic and selfish reason says shedloads.........."

Racist muslims have murdered 250 French, European, American and Russian men, women and children and injured and maimed over a thousand in the last five years. Repeatedly calling someone a racist who wants to defend her people from this terror is hardly racist and very boring. In fact I'm still waiting for one of the 'racist' whingers on here to tell me how many racist murders members of the FN have committed in that time frame?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"i think it is interesting that everyone knocked the person who was the centrist for all sorts of reasons..... but have shyed away all this time from knocking the opponent......

and are still doing it in this thread....

yes, for a lot of people it may be supporting the lesser of two evils.....

but the see here that some people here would have preferred the racist candidate even for oppotunistic and selfish reason says shedloads..........

Racist muslims have murdered 250 French, European, American and Russian men, women and children and injured and maimed over a thousand in the last five years. Repeatedly calling someone a racist who wants to defend her people from this terror is hardly racist and very boring. In fact I'm still waiting for one of the 'racist' whingers on here to tell me how many racist murders members of the FN have committed in that time frame?"

okay... so let get you to put this on the record....

macron vs le pen..... would you have voted for le pen?

just a simple yes or no please........

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"i think it is interesting that everyone knocked the person who was the centrist for all sorts of reasons..... but have shyed away all this time from knocking the opponent......

and are still doing it in this thread....

yes, for a lot of people it may be supporting the lesser of two evils.....

but the see here that some people here would have preferred the racist candidate even for oppotunistic and selfish reason says shedloads.........."

I'm just curious. I'm not saying she isn't racist but can you explain why she is?

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin

Interesting to see the right wing in this thread complaining about Macron employing someone for starting a hashtag on twitter but have no problem with Le Pen unapologetically employing Vardon in her party even though he has been convicted of a racist fuelled assault on an immigrant.

And they ignore her deep ties to right wing extremists GUD and her ties to criminal elements accused of money laundering among other things.

It seems they will accept racists, physical assault and criminals but think hashtags are where the line should be drawn.

What was the name of the guy who spent days on here defending paedophiles because they were anti EU? I guess we havent gone that far but its clear theres no morals in play. Anything is ok as long as they're also against the EU.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Interesting to see the right wing in this thread complaining about Macron employing someone for starting a hashtag on twitter but have no problem with Le Pen unapologetically employing Vardon in her party even though he has been convicted of a racist fuelled assault on an immigrant.

And they ignore her deep ties to right wing extremists GUD and her ties to criminal elements accused of money laundering among other things.

It seems they will accept racists, physical assault and criminals but think hashtags are where the line should be drawn.

What was the name of the guy who spent days on here defending paedophiles because they were anti EU? I guess we havent gone that far but its clear theres no morals in play. Anything is ok as long as they're also against the EU."

The EU are racist aren't they?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Interesting to see the right wing in this thread complaining about Macron employing someone for starting a hashtag on twitter but have no problem with Le Pen unapologetically employing Vardon in her party even though he has been convicted of a racist fuelled assault on an immigrant.

And they ignore her deep ties to right wing extremists GUD and her ties to criminal elements accused of money laundering among other things.

It seems they will accept racists, physical assault and criminals but think hashtags are where the line should be drawn.

What was the name of the guy who spent days on here defending paedophiles because they were anti EU? I guess we havent gone that far but its clear theres no morals in play. Anything is ok as long as they're also against the EU.

The EU are racist aren't they?"

No, cos they welcomed the immigration crisis tho.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

I'm sure Putin will be upset.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

The paris riot police are in and blocking protesters with tear gas.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Le poison pen garnered over a third of the over all vote, that's not an insignificant number. It'll be interesting to see what happens. Beyond that, who can say really? It is what it is.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

Sour grapes much? "

Not really, and none from Marine Le Pen either, at least she had the good grace to come out and publically congratulate Macron in a very short space of time (unlike let's say Hillary Clinton the sore loser who wouldn't come out publically on election night to congratulate Donald Trump). It's also interesting the far left candidate Melenchon who got 19% of the vote in the first round of the French election has already slagged Macron off and has said, "Macron will destroy socialism in France". Sour grapes seems to be right at home on the left of politics.

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"I'm sure Putin will be upset."

Im still amazed at how ordinary people are suddenly so comfortable with Putin pulling strings in other democracies for Russias benefit and their loss.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Le Pen lost, Macron won... deal with it. Macron means Macron!

What is interesting 25% abstained. I wonder if it was a left vs right who would have won?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Not sure why people on this thread seems to mad about it. The French voted (75% turnout) and Macron won with 60%+. Did you also contest Hollande winning? Are you against democracy?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


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Not really, and none from Marine Le Pen either, at least she had the good grace to come out and publically congratulate Macron in a very short space of time (unlike let's say Hillary Clinton the sore loser who wouldn't come out publically on election night to congratulate Donald Trump). "

yeah... because its much easier to condcede defeat earlier when it is clear that you lost by some 30+ percent.......

my god you people manage to piss on a parade really quickly.... i notice you all decry macron, but not of you have said you would have voted for le pen......

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"Not sure why people on this thread seems to mad about it. The French voted (75% turnout) and Macron won with 60%+. Did you also contest Hollande winning? Are you against democracy?"

Democracy is only sacred when they vote the right way

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then? "

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT! "

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

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By *oo hotCouple  over a year ago

North West

Holland rejects division and separation.

France rejects division and separation.

Germany on course to reject division and separation.

The newly elected pro European President of France has said that because of its actions Britain is heading towards becoming an isolated vassal state of Trumps America.

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"Holland rejects division and separation.

France rejects division and separation.

Germany on course to reject division and separation.

The newly elected pro European President of France has said that because of its actions Britain is heading towards becoming an isolated vassal state of Trumps America."

And if the mid terms go badly Trump will have a divided government so I cant see his focus being on helping out the UK when the Democrats are tanking his policies.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Holland rejects division and separation.

France rejects division and separation.

Germany on course to reject division and separation.

The newly elected pro European President of France has said that because of its actions Britain is heading towards becoming an isolated vassal state of Trumps America.

And if the mid terms go badly Trump will have a divided government so I cant see his focus being on helping out the UK when the Democrats are tanking his policies."

Those 26 million people who are about to lose health insurance probably aren't going to vote republican.

Now if you have a pre-existing mental health condition you cant get health insurance, but you can buy a gun.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

so the moderates ripped the racist righties a new A-hole ... doubt it will stop them bitchin' and moanin like little pussies though .... suck it up mo-fo's .... my brier score is monumental

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT! "

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile? "

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher. "

So you are saying he's the victim of a paedophile?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher. "

was she prosecuted and convicted?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

viz top tip,

fascists .... if you don't get the election result you want, then there always fake news that you can invent

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?"

Was Jimmy saville.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville."

holy shit ... is mrs macron dead?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville."

Do you know the age of consent in France? How about in Germany?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville."

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

Do you know the age of consent in France? How about in Germany? "

What does that have to do with it?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

"

Stupid for not asking Google.....

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

Do you know the age of consent in France? How about in Germany?

What does that have to do with it?"

We really need a face palm emoji on this site.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

holy shit ... is mrs macron dead? "

I saw her on telly earlier and she doesn't look far off it. I thought it was the money supermarket advert with Skeletor dancing for a moment.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Interesting to see the right wing in this thread complaining about Macron employing someone for starting a hashtag on twitter but have no problem with Le Pen unapologetically employing Vardon in her party even though he has been convicted of a racist fuelled assault on an immigrant.

And they ignore her deep ties to right wing extremists GUD and her ties to criminal elements accused of money laundering among other things.

It seems they will accept racists, physical assault and criminals but think hashtags are where the line should be drawn.

What was the name of the guy who spent days on here defending paedophiles because they were anti EU? I guess we havent gone that far but its clear theres no morals in play. Anything is ok as long as they're also against the EU.

The EU are racist aren't they?No, cos they welcomed the immigration crisis tho."

No? They want to ban the burka throughout Europe don't they? And stop people from third world countries living together in the same areas and in large groups. If a so called 'right wing' party came out with that they would be classed as racist for sure woukdn't they?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I thought it was the money supermarket advert with Skeletor dancing for a moment. "

you seem to be deluded ... that was theresa may bumbling aimlessly through todays brexit speech

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

Stupid for not asking Google..... "

what's google got to do with it?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

you could argue that mrs macron looks far better for 69.... than donald trump looks for 70.....

oh... and there is a 24 yr age gap between them and their spouse as well... fancy that.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

Do you know the age of consent in France? How about in Germany?

What does that have to do with it?

We really need a face palm emoji on this site."

So when are you not a paedophile?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher. "

no, they met when he was 15...get your facts right....they did not 'get together' until he was 18...unless of course you know different,have some previously unstated secret knowledge..their relationship was very unusual,that's undeniably true, but there was never any question of anything untoward,their relationship was very public,open to both their families..and the age of consent there is 16, but same as here,with someone in a position like a teacher, it is 18. If she was a paedophile she would have little interest in marrying him when he was a grown man presumably.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


" I thought it was the money supermarket advert with Skeletor dancing for a moment.

you seem to be deluded ... that was theresa may bumbling aimlessly through todays brexit speech"

No it was definitely the paedo Mrs Macron.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

anyone else noticed for all the deflection a few people seem to be doing here... not one have said they would have voted for le pen instead......

its like they don't want to be seen endorsing a far right racist... hmmmmmmmm

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By *oncupiscentTonyMan  over a year ago

Kent


"I saw her on telly earlier and she doesn't look far off it. I thought it was the money supermarket advert with Skeletor dancing for a moment."

Lovely touch of casual misogyny

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

Do you know the age of consent in France? How about in Germany?

What does that have to do with it?

We really need a face palm emoji on this site.

So when are you not a paedophile?"

When you have sex with people over the age of consent.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


" I thought it was the money supermarket advert with Skeletor dancing for a moment.

you seem to be deluded ... that was theresa may bumbling aimlessly through todays brexit speech

No it was definitely the paedo Mrs Macron. "

you're definately deluded ... that was theresa may bumbling aimlessly through todays brexit speech

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

Stupid for not asking Google.....

what's google got to do with it? "

Ask Google

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"anyone else noticed for all the deflection a few people seem to be doing here... not one have said they would have voted for le pen instead......

its like they don't want to be seen endorsing a far right racist... hmmmmmmmm"

Yup, we noticed!

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"anyone else noticed for all the deflection a few people seem to be doing here... not one have said they would have voted for le pen instead......

its like they don't want to be seen endorsing a far right racist... hmmmmmmmm"

I guess id have abstained. Like all the others did.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

Stupid for not asking Google.....

what's google got to do with it?

Ask Google "

don't be stupid

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

Stupid for not asking Google.....

what's google got to do with it?

Ask Google

don't be stupid "

I'm surprised you noticed, did you ask someone what was going on?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

Stupid for not asking Google.....

what's google got to do with it?

Ask Google

don't be stupid

I'm surprised you noticed, did you ask someone what was going on? "

yeah ... bing

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

Stupid for not asking Google.....

what's google got to do with it?

Ask Google

don't be stupid

I'm surprised you noticed, did you ask someone what was going on?

yeah ... bing"

That was lame.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

Stupid for not asking Google.....

what's google got to do with it?

Ask Google

don't be stupid

I'm surprised you noticed, did you ask someone what was going on?

yeah ... bing

That was lame."

tell someone who cares

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

stupid to use him as a comparison, all i an asking is under French law was there a case to answer ..?

Stupid for not asking Google.....

what's google got to do with it?

Ask Google

don't be stupid

I'm surprised you noticed, did you ask someone what was going on?

yeah ... bing

That was lame.

tell someone who cares"

Ah, someone needs a hug.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

well go and hug them ffs and stop distracting me ... i'm busy listening to steve vai's 1984 album, Flexable

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

Do you know the age of consent in France? How about in Germany?

What does that have to do with it?

We really need a face palm emoji on this site.

So when are you not a paedophile?

When you have sex with people over the age of consent. "

So if you went to say, Argentina and had sex with a 13 year old you wouldn't be a paedophile? Good to see how your mind works

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"well go and hug them ffs and stop distracting me ... i'm busy listening to steve vai's 1984 album, Flexable"

That's just greasy kid's stuff.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

try not to deviate too far from the thread topic of the racist shit-sack party getting a just and total kicking in the french election today folks

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

Do you know the age of consent in France? How about in Germany?

What does that have to do with it?

We really need a face palm emoji on this site.

So when are you not a paedophile?

When you have sex with people over the age of consent.

So if you went to say, Argentina and had sex with a 13 year old you wouldn't be a paedophile? Good to see how your mind works "

Not something that I would do personally, and there are multiple laws covering sexual relationships in Argentina with teens aged 13-18, so I doubt it would be legal there.

If you dont agree with me that you are not a paedophile if you have sex with people over the age of consent, that must mean that you believe you are a paedophile if you have sex with people over the age of consent. So that would make you a paedophile then, right?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

that's cheap.... so did you support and endorse the racist then?

Hmmm which ones worse... racism or paedophilia...... there's only one way to find out..... FIGHT!

Are you saying that Macron is a paedophile?

No his wife is. They got together when he was 15 years old and she was his 39 year old teacher.

was she prosecuted and convicted?

Was Jimmy saville.

Do you know the age of consent in France? How about in Germany?

What does that have to do with it?

We really need a face palm emoji on this site.

So when are you not a paedophile?

When you have sex with people over the age of consent.

So if you went to say, Argentina and had sex with a 13 year old you wouldn't be a paedophile? Good to see how your mind works

Not something that I would do personally, and there are multiple laws covering sexual relationships in Argentina with teens aged 13-18, so I doubt it would be legal there.

If you dont agree with me that you are not a paedophile if you have sex with people over the age of consent, that must mean that you believe you are a paedophile if you have sex with people over the age of consent. So that would make you a paedophile then, right? "

Bit late to squirm out of it now. A paedophile is someone who is attracted to children and has nothing to do with the age of consent

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist! "

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

Sour grapes much?

Not really, and none from Marine Le Pen either, at least she had the good grace to come out and publically congratulate Macron in a very short space of time (unlike let's say Hillary Clinton the sore loser who wouldn't come out publically on election night to congratulate Donald Trump). It's also interesting the far left candidate Melenchon who got 19% of the vote in the first round of the French election has already slagged Macron off and has said, "Macron will destroy socialism in France". Sour grapes seems to be right at home on the left of politics. "

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?"

No nothing wrong with that at all !

In fact , Personally between Macron and Marine , I would have chosen Marine !

Does that make me an extreme right xenofobic racist ? No !

It would have been a pragmatic choice ! and here is why :

This was an election of exclusion not choice !

Macron won easily not because he was the best candidate, but because the other candidate was Marine!

But would Marine be worse than Macron ? Macron that said this :

"Is Macron an open promoter of Islamism in France? It is more politically correct to say that he is a "globalist" and an "open promoter of multiculturalism". As such, he apparently does not consider Islamism a national threat because, for him, the French nation, or, as he has said, French culture, does not really exist. Macron has, in fact, denied that France is a country with a specific culture, a specific history, and a specific literature or art. On February 22, visiting the French expatriates in London, Macron said: "French culture does not exist, there is a culture in France and it is diverse"."

There is no greater threat to a nation , then the denial of the existence of its heritage and culture !

We have seen similar stances turn to policy in places like Sweden , and look at the stellar results !

Now, the lefties on here will be quick to point out that Marine would be worse , slapping the xenophobic and racist label to deter anyone from defending her or any of her positions !

So bring it on!

I am aware of my ideas and convictions , so not going to be deterred from debating ideas just because some lefty retard want to shut me up by calling me names and putting labels on me!

Its easy to call someone a racist or xenophobic, alt right or Fascist !

Its merely a tactic used by those who don't have what it takes to think and put fanaticism on hold !

There is a double standard when it comes to the issue of extreme left or right parties holding power ! Left is always ok , but right is always bad !

Recent examples of Greece and Venezuela come to mind .....but the left ignores those ...... nothing to see...move on !

Really ? Current extreme left Greek government are applying extreme austerity measures..... but because its left austerity ...its fine !

In Venezuela the Bolivarian revolution is turning into dictatorship , and the people are hungry ....but its fine as long as its a left wing thing....

Power , and the checks and balances of most systems has a way to soften any radical programs , specially when they want to effect significant change . This would have been the case with Marine , if she won, just as is happening with Trump !

The problem with the right is they say what they actually going to do , while the left keep quiet until they get power then actually and gradually change (normally for the worse, leftist utopia), or do nothing at all and maintain the status quo!

Does anybody remember Hollande? The great left hope !

Now the French are stuck with a more sophisticated version , called Macron !

So lets do a little check-list:

Marine VS Macron

- Support from European beaurocracy - Macron.

- Support from banking system /Major capital interests- Macron

- support fro Frau Merkel- Macron .

- support from multiculturalism and islamic movements -Macron

I could go on.....but post already too long !

Marine would have been a win win !

She would have had to soften some of her more extreme notions, but in the process she would have given Europe the wake up shake it needs to move, and face up to the challenges it has been avoiding !

As we stand the status quo remains ....and its only going to get worse !

So... stay tuned !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its fine to say you would vote for a racist party.Honesty is good.You shouldn't hide or be afraid.

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados

Blah blah blah blah (not even going to pick up on your one sided 'checklist').

She is still a racist and still peddling hate. She is funded by Putin and she is promoting the rise of the extreme right.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

When is the EU imploding? Tomorrow? Is it still imminent?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?

No nothing wrong with that at all !

In fact , Personally between Macron and Marine , I would have chosen Marine !

Does that make me an extreme right xenofobic racist ? No !

It would have been a pragmatic choice ! and here is why :

This was an election of exclusion not choice !

Macron won easily not because he was the best candidate, but because the other candidate was Marine!

But would Marine be worse than Macron ? Macron that said this :

"Is Macron an open promoter of Islamism in France? It is more politically correct to say that he is a "globalist" and an "open promoter of multiculturalism". As such, he apparently does not consider Islamism a national threat because, for him, the French nation, or, as he has said, French culture, does not really exist. Macron has, in fact, denied that France is a country with a specific culture, a specific history, and a specific literature or art. On February 22, visiting the French expatriates in London, Macron said: "French culture does not exist, there is a culture in France and it is diverse"."

There is no greater threat to a nation , then the denial of the existence of its heritage and culture !

We have seen similar stances turn to policy in places like Sweden , and look at the stellar results !

Now, the lefties on here will be quick to point out that Marine would be worse , slapping the xenophobic and racist label to deter anyone from defending her or any of her positions !

So bring it on!

I am aware of my ideas and convictions , so not going to be deterred from debating ideas just because some lefty retard want to shut me up by calling me names and putting labels on me!

Its easy to call someone a racist or xenophobic, alt right or Fascist !

Its merely a tactic used by those who don't have what it takes to think and put fanaticism on hold !

There is a double standard when it comes to the issue of extreme left or right parties holding power ! Left is always ok , but right is always bad !

Recent examples of Greece and Venezuela come to mind .....but the left ignores those ...... nothing to see...move on !

Really ? Current extreme left Greek government are applying extreme austerity measures..... but because its left austerity ...its fine !

In Venezuela the Bolivarian revolution is turning into dictatorship , and the people are hungry ....but its fine as long as its a left wing thing....

Power , and the checks and balances of most systems has a way to soften any radical programs , specially when they want to effect significant change . This would have been the case with Marine , if she won, just as is happening with Trump !

The problem with the right is they say what they actually going to do , while the left keep quiet until they get power then actually and gradually change (normally for the worse, leftist utopia), or do nothing at all and maintain the status quo!

Does anybody remember Hollande? The great left hope !

Now the French are stuck with a more sophisticated version , called Macron !

So lets do a little check-list:

Marine VS Macron

- Support from European beaurocracy - Macron.

- Support from banking system /Major capital interests- Macron

- support fro Frau Merkel- Macron .

- support from multiculturalism and islamic movements -Macron

I could go on.....but post already too long !

Marine would have been a win win !

She would have had to soften some of her more extreme notions, but in the process she would have given Europe the wake up shake it needs to move, and face up to the challenges it has been avoiding !

As we stand the status quo remains ....and its only going to get worse !

So... stay tuned !"

...well said.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

Tony, out of interest, who do you believe to be extreme right or alt-right? Who is xenophobic and racist in your opinion? Are there any politicians or parties in the western world who are?

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By *bandjam91Couple  over a year ago

London


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

Sour grapes much?

Not really, and none from Marine Le Pen either, at least she had the good grace to come out and publically congratulate Macron in a very short space of time (unlike let's say Hillary Clinton the sore loser who wouldn't come out publically on election night to congratulate Donald Trump). It's also interesting the far left candidate Melenchon who got 19% of the vote in the first round of the French election has already slagged Macron off and has said, "Macron will destroy socialism in France". Sour grapes seems to be right at home on the left of politics. "

Firstly, you should Google Yanis Varoufakis talking about this on Open Democracy.

Secondly, stop being a whiney little b*tch

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

Just heard Macron's Financial man saying that Macron will be " a hard Negotiator during Brexit talks"

And there's me thinking that we were negotiating with the EU!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Now, the lefties on here will be quick to point out that Marine would be worse , slapping the xenophobic and racist label to deter anyone from defending her or any of her positions !

So bring it on!

I am aware of my ideas and convictions , so not going to be deterred from debating ideas just because some lefty retard want to shut me up by calling me names and putting labels on me!

Its easy to call someone a racist or xenophobic, alt right or Fascist !

Its merely a tactic used by those who don't have what it takes to think and put fanaticism on hold !

There is a double standard when it comes to the issue of extreme left or right parties holding power ! Left is always ok , but right is always bad !

"

So, basically, you're saying it's ok for you to refer to 'lefty retards' but not for anyone who disagrees with you to suggest you might be racist or xenophobic?

And you then have the audacity to talk about 'double standards'?

Put your own house in order first, boy!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

you know the alt-reich bullshit has come full cicle when the racists are saying it's not racist to stick up for racists who advocate racism

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"you know the alt-reich bullshit has come full cicle when the racists are saying it's not racist to stick up for racists who advocate racism "

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Just heard Macron's Financial man saying that Macron will be " a hard Negotiator during Brexit talks"

And there's me thinking that we were negotiating with the EU!"

You do realise that France is a part of the EU, right? You do realise that the other 27 members of the EU get a vote on the deal at the end of it, right? Ie. they have a say, as a member, in the running of the organisation they are a part of. Just in the same way the UK would have a say in, say, Turkey joining the EU? Or the EU forming an 'ever closer union' etc.

Is the penny starting to finally drop with you that as part of the EU we have a say in it's running, but that we are leaving the EU and so will lose that right and that now scares you?

Tough tits buttercup, you voted to leave. Suck it up.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Just heard Macron's Financial man saying that Macron will be " a hard Negotiator during Brexit talks"

And there's me thinking that we were negotiating with the EU!"

Yes he'll be a hard negotiator within the 27 over what he thinks the deal looks like for the UK just like we would if it was another major EU player leaving instead of us.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Just heard Macron's Financial man saying that Macron will be " a hard Negotiator during Brexit talks"

And there's me thinking that we were negotiating with the EU!

You do realise that France is a part of the EU, right? You do realise that the other 27 members of the EU get a vote on the deal at the end of it, right? Ie. they have a say, as a member, in the running of the organisation they are a part of. Just in the same way the UK would have a say in, say, Turkey joining the EU? Or the EU forming an 'ever closer union' etc.

Is the penny starting to finally drop with you that as part of the EU we have a say in it's running, but that we are leaving the EU and so will lose that right and that now scares you?

Tough tits buttercup, you voted to leave. Suck it up.

-Matt"

No they don't realise that. They see the EU as some existential "other" that is completely seperate from the member states.

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"Just heard Macron's Financial man saying that Macron will be " a hard Negotiator during Brexit talks"

And there's me thinking that we were negotiating with the EU!

You do realise that France is a part of the EU, right? You do realise that the other 27 members of the EU get a vote on the deal at the end of it, right? Ie. they have a say, as a member, in the running of the organisation they are a part of. Just in the same way the UK would have a say in, say, Turkey joining the EU? Or the EU forming an 'ever closer union' etc.

Is the penny starting to finally drop with you that as part of the EU we have a say in it's running, but that we are leaving the EU and so will lose that right and that now scares you?

Tough tits buttercup, you voted to leave. Suck it up.

-Matt"

I'm quite upto speed on the mechanisms of the EU, thanks!

It was more the way it was put, as if he was going to have a direct input into the Brexit talks.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It was more the way it was put, as if he was going to have a direct input into the Brexit talks."

what or who lead you to believe he's not or is it just your supposition?

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin


"Just heard Macron's Financial man saying that Macron will be " a hard Negotiator during Brexit talks"

And there's me thinking that we were negotiating with the EU!

You do realise that France is a part of the EU, right? You do realise that the other 27 members of the EU get a vote on the deal at the end of it, right? Ie. they have a say, as a member, in the running of the organisation they are a part of. Just in the same way the UK would have a say in, say, Turkey joining the EU? Or the EU forming an 'ever closer union' etc.

Is the penny starting to finally drop with you that as part of the EU we have a say in it's running, but that we are leaving the EU and so will lose that right and that now scares you?

Tough tits buttercup, you voted to leave. Suck it up.

-Matt

I'm quite upto speed on the mechanisms of the EU, thanks!

It was more the way it was put, as if he was going to have a direct input into the Brexit talks."

He will. France gets a vote and ultimately as head of state he will decide what Frances position on Brexit negotiations. The EU negotiating team ultimately works for the 27 governments. If the 27 heads of state dont like the deal Juncker gets then it wont be accepted.

This is the problem with Brexiters, they never understood that the EU worked for their government too. Or how the EU works in general.

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?"

Nothing wrong with voting for a fascist no, of course not. Holocaust denier's daughter, running an openly racist and xenophobic party......what's not like eh?

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?

No nothing wrong with that at all !

In fact , Personally between Macron and Marine , I would have chosen Marine !

Does that make me an extreme right xenofobic racist ? No !

It would have been a pragmatic choice ! and here is why :

This was an election of exclusion not choice !

Macron won easily not because he was the best candidate, but because the other candidate was Marine!

But would Marine be worse than Macron ? Macron that said this :

"Is Macron an open promoter of Islamism in France? It is more politically correct to say that he is a "globalist" and an "open promoter of multiculturalism". As such, he apparently does not consider Islamism a national threat because, for him, the French nation, or, as he has said, French culture, does not really exist. Macron has, in fact, denied that France is a country with a specific culture, a specific history, and a specific literature or art. On February 22, visiting the French expatriates in London, Macron said: "French culture does not exist, there is a culture in France and it is diverse"."

There is no greater threat to a nation , then the denial of the existence of its heritage and culture !

We have seen similar stances turn to policy in places like Sweden , and look at the stellar results !

Now, the lefties on here will be quick to point out that Marine would be worse , slapping the xenophobic and racist label to deter anyone from defending her or any of her positions !

So bring it on!

I am aware of my ideas and convictions , so not going to be deterred from debating ideas just because some lefty retard want to shut me up by calling me names and putting labels on me!

Its easy to call someone a racist or xenophobic, alt right or Fascist !

Its merely a tactic used by those who don't have what it takes to think and put fanaticism on hold !

There is a double standard when it comes to the issue of extreme left or right parties holding power ! Left is always ok , but right is always bad !

Recent examples of Greece and Venezuela come to mind .....but the left ignores those ...... nothing to see...move on !

Really ? Current extreme left Greek government are applying extreme austerity measures..... but because its left austerity ...its fine !

In Venezuela the Bolivarian revolution is turning into dictatorship , and the people are hungry ....but its fine as long as its a left wing thing....

Power , and the checks and balances of most systems has a way to soften any radical programs , specially when they want to effect significant change . This would have been the case with Marine , if she won, just as is happening with Trump !

The problem with the right is they say what they actually going to do , while the left keep quiet until they get power then actually and gradually change (normally for the worse, leftist utopia), or do nothing at all and maintain the status quo!

Does anybody remember Hollande? The great left hope !

Now the French are stuck with a more sophisticated version , called Macron !

So lets do a little check-list:

Marine VS Macron

- Support from European beaurocracy - Macron.

- Support from banking system /Major capital interests- Macron

- support fro Frau Merkel- Macron .

- support from multiculturalism and islamic movements -Macron

I could go on.....but post already too long !

Marine would have been a win win !

She would have had to soften some of her more extreme notions, but in the process she would have given Europe the wake up shake it needs to move, and face up to the challenges it has been avoiding !

As we stand the status quo remains ....and its only going to get worse !

So... stay tuned !"

Lefty retards? Give your empty head a wobble.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Interesting to see the right wing in this thread complaining about Macron employing someone for starting a hashtag on twitter but have no problem with Le Pen unapologetically employing Vardon in her party even though he has been convicted of a racist fuelled assault on an immigrant.

And they ignore her deep ties to right wing extremists GUD and her ties to criminal elements accused of money laundering among other things.

It seems they will accept racists, physical assault and criminals but think hashtags are where the line should be drawn.

What was the name of the guy who spent days on here defending paedophiles because they were anti EU? I guess we havent gone that far but its clear theres no morals in play. Anything is ok as long as they're also against the EU.

The EU are racist aren't they?No, cos they welcomed the immigration crisis tho.

No? They want to ban the burka throughout Europe don't they? And stop people from third world countries living together in the same areas and in large groups. If a so called 'right wing' party came out with that they would be classed as racist for sure woukdn't they?"

Yes, if such group did it, but that is just to accept the rules of the country and dress accordingly, otherwise you fall into their laws and more and more would need to be accepted, like in sweden where sharia law is in place.

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By *100Man  over a year ago

Essex

No balls,the French bending over as usual

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?

No nothing wrong with that at all !

In fact , Personally between Macron and Marine , I would have chosen Marine !

Does that make me an extreme right xenofobic racist ? No !

It would have been a pragmatic choice ! and here is why :

This was an election of exclusion not choice !

Macron won easily not because he was the best candidate, but because the other candidate was Marine!

But would Marine be worse than Macron ? Macron that said this :

"Is Macron an open promoter of Islamism in France? It is more politically correct to say that he is a "globalist" and an "open promoter of multiculturalism". As such, he apparently does not consider Islamism a national threat because, for him, the French nation, or, as he has said, French culture, does not really exist. Macron has, in fact, denied that France is a country with a specific culture, a specific history, and a specific literature or art. On February 22, visiting the French expatriates in London, Macron said: "French culture does not exist, there is a culture in France and it is diverse"."

There is no greater threat to a nation , then the denial of the existence of its heritage and culture !

We have seen similar stances turn to policy in places like Sweden , and look at the stellar results !

Now, the lefties on here will be quick to point out that Marine would be worse , slapping the xenophobic and racist label to deter anyone from defending her or any of her positions !

So bring it on!

I am aware of my ideas and convictions , so not going to be deterred from debating ideas just because some lefty retard want to shut me up by calling me names and putting labels on me!

Its easy to call someone a racist or xenophobic, alt right or Fascist !

Its merely a tactic used by those who don't have what it takes to think and put fanaticism on hold !

There is a double standard when it comes to the issue of extreme left or right parties holding power ! Left is always ok , but right is always bad !

Recent examples of Greece and Venezuela come to mind .....but the left ignores those ...... nothing to see...move on !

Really ? Current extreme left Greek government are applying extreme austerity measures..... but because its left austerity ...its fine !

In Venezuela the Bolivarian revolution is turning into dictatorship , and the people are hungry ....but its fine as long as its a left wing thing....

Power , and the checks and balances of most systems has a way to soften any radical programs , specially when they want to effect significant change . This would have been the case with Marine , if she won, just as is happening with Trump !

The problem with the right is they say what they actually going to do , while the left keep quiet until they get power then actually and gradually change (normally for the worse, leftist utopia), or do nothing at all and maintain the status quo!

Does anybody remember Hollande? The great left hope !

Now the French are stuck with a more sophisticated version , called Macron !

So lets do a little check-list:

Marine VS Macron

- Support from European beaurocracy - Macron.

- Support from banking system /Major capital interests- Macron

- support fro Frau Merkel- Macron .

- support from multiculturalism and islamic movements -Macron

I could go on.....but post already too long !

Marine would have been a win win !

She would have had to soften some of her more extreme notions, but in the process she would have given Europe the wake up shake it needs to move, and face up to the challenges it has been avoiding !

As we stand the status quo remains ....and its only going to get worse !

So... stay tuned !

Lefty retards? Give your empty head a wobble. "

lol...It seems in your case, the shoe fits...... !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Continue here, macron wins the election, what does it mean for the future of france and eu?

Great news for Islam "

This

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Its fine to say you would vote for a racist party.Honesty is good.You shouldn't hide or be afraid. "

Care to give me example of how the FN is racist ! Or are you just spouting and labelling as usual ?

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with voting for a fascist no, of course not. Holocaust denier's daughter, running an openly racist and xenophobic party......what's not like eh?"

Care to back up your statements ?

Fascist ? How ?

When has she denied the Holocaust ?

Racist , xenophobic , please give me examples?

BS statements are easy ...now have the balls back them with actual facts!

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"

Now, the lefties on here will be quick to point out that Marine would be worse , slapping the xenophobic and racist label to deter anyone from defending her or any of her positions !

So bring it on!

I am aware of my ideas and convictions , so not going to be deterred from debating ideas just because some lefty retard want to shut me up by calling me names and putting labels on me!

Its easy to call someone a racist or xenophobic, alt right or Fascist !

Its merely a tactic used by those who don't have what it takes to think and put fanaticism on hold !

There is a double standard when it comes to the issue of extreme left or right parties holding power ! Left is always ok , but right is always bad !

So, basically, you're saying it's ok for you to refer to 'lefty retards' but not for anyone who disagrees with you to suggest you might be racist or xenophobic?

And you then have the audacity to talk about 'double standards'?

Put your own house in order first, boy!"

Well I got your attention !

I dont usually stoop that low , but this time I decided to step into the shit ....

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with voting for a fascist no, of course not. Holocaust denier's daughter, running an openly racist and xenophobic party......what's not like eh?

Care to back up your statements ?

Fascist ? How ?

When has she denied the Holocaust ?

Racist , xenophobic , please give me examples?

BS statements are easy ...now have the balls back them with actual facts! "

Come on Tony, tell us which western political parties you do believe are racist and far right?

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off....."

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Tony, out of interest, who do you believe to be extreme right or alt-right? Who is xenophobic and racist in your opinion? Are there any politicians or parties in the western world who are?"

No ! not in Western Europe !

There are extreme , far right xenophobic ,racist movements , but as far as I know none of them have actual dimension for parliamentary representation anywhere !

But please feel free to correct me , by giving me actual examples....where and if they exist !

That said, please bear in mind that it does not suffice to "label" ! You actually should know what their political stance/manifesto or program is !

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with voting for a fascist no, of course not. Holocaust denier's daughter, running an openly racist and xenophobic party......what's not like eh?

Care to back up your statements ?

Fascist ? How ?

When has she denied the Holocaust ?

Racist , xenophobic , please give me examples?

BS statements are easy ...now have the balls back them with actual facts! "

OK, I'll just take the easy one:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/06/jean-marie-le-pen-fined-again-dismissing-holocaust-detail

I don't have time to point out the rest of the obvious shit to you

-Matt

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt"

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse!

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By *awty MaxWoman  over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Who would have thought the French would vote for someone who has a Paedophile for a wife?

Sour grapes much?

Not really, and none from Marine Le Pen either, at least she had the good grace to come out and publically congratulate Macron in a very short space of time (unlike let's say Hillary Clinton the sore loser who wouldn't come out publically on election night to congratulate Donald Trump). It's also interesting the far left candidate Melenchon who got 19% of the vote in the first round of the French election has already slagged Macron off and has said, "Macron will destroy socialism in France". Sour grapes seems to be right at home on the left of politics. "

The good grace?!

The whole speech was strategic and to position herself for the coming elections.

She did show how small minded she is during the 1-1 debate and how little stature she has! Even people from her own party rolled their eyes!

Reading the thread, am so glad some of you are not French

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse! "

Hahahahahahahahahaha... Oh, you make me laugh Tony.

So you don't evaluate the content against it's author at all? Not even in the case of information from a 'lefty retard'? I've seen enough of Alex Jones' videos to know the guy is completely unhinged. If you want to align yourself with that, then go ahead. I won't/can't think any less of your views.

And nice jibe on the intellectual incapacity

-Matt

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with voting for a fascist no, of course not. Holocaust denier's daughter, running an openly racist and xenophobic party......what's not like eh?

Care to back up your statements ?

Fascist ? How ?

When has she denied the Holocaust ?

Racist , xenophobic , please give me examples?

BS statements are easy ...now have the balls back them with actual facts!

OK, I'll just take the easy one:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/06/jean-marie-le-pen-fined-again-dismissing-holocaust-detail

I don't have time to point out the rest of the obvious shit to you

-Matt"

No you don't do you ? In fact you have no valid points at all !

I asked when has SHE, Marine denied the holocaust , and you failed to get that , and reply with a link to a statement by her father....lol.....in fact the article mentions that the father criticises his daughter for not sharing his view! wake up or read better !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Personally I though Macron was the best of all the candidates, maybe not THE best candidate there could have been but certainly much better than all the rest which is probably why he won?

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse!

Hahahahahahahahahaha... Oh, you make me laugh Tony.

So you don't evaluate the content against it's author at all? Not even in the case of information from a 'lefty retard'? I've seen enough of Alex Jones' videos to know the guy is completely unhinged. If you want to align yourself with that, then go ahead. I won't/can't think any less of your views.

And nice jibe on the intellectual incapacity

-Matt"

You don't get it do you ?

One can obtain information from any source ,regardless of origin !

In fact these days , to get any decent picture of a situation , one should consult different sources !

Just because I watch , or analyse info from a certain source , be it left or right, it doesn't equate to being aligned with it !

And unfortunately there are a lot of unhinged folks on both sides of the political spectrum !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse! "

Tony do yourself a favour never use info wars as a source for anything other than comedy!.It makes you look like a tin foil wearing Conspiracy theorist nut job..unless thats the look you're going for.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

I'm quite upto speed on the mechanisms of the EU, thanks!

It was more the way it was put, as if he was going to have a direct input into the Brexit talks."

Of course he is going to have a direct input into the EU's position on the negotiations.

Every nations leader has direct imput.

You do know how the EU works don't you ?

We have been in the EU for a long time and whatever leader we had all had a direct imput into mostly anything EU related.

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse! Tony do yourself a favour never use info wars as a source for anything other than comedy!.It makes you look like a tin foil wearing Conspiracy theorist nut job..unless thats the look you're going for. "

Thanks for the advice Bob!

I like to keep a diverse source of info!

And besides , you forget that comedy in part of my job these days !

Tin foil is too weak.... these days one needs a hard hat to withstand the bombardment of shit "information" coming mostly , but admittedly, not exclusively from the left !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

i don't know what deep dark cave, the forumites who seem to be supporting/defending the french racist candidate, have been living in for the last 45 years ... but they have completely missed Frontnationals self professed raison d'etre .... either they missed it by being ignorant or they're racists who are too frightened to own up to being racist

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Many are confusing themselves of wanting a change you have to be right wing, by that logic, would mean everyone voted brexit would be xenophobes.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

I bet Tony is part of the flat earth movement! tell us Tony, is the spherical earth just a con made up by NASA?

Is FEMA running death camps?

Are contrails secret government spraying missions?

Was 9/11 faked?

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Still not one person with the balls to say they would have voted for a racist!

I have said before that Fillon would have been best for France so in the 2nd round would have abstained but if forced to vote I would have had to choose the lesser of two evils which is Le Pen. Something wrong with that?

Nothing wrong with voting for a fascist no, of course not. Holocaust denier's daughter, running an openly racist and xenophobic party......what's not like eh?

Care to back up your statements ?

Fascist ? How ?

When has she denied the Holocaust ?

Racist , xenophobic , please give me examples?

BS statements are easy ...now have the balls back them with actual facts!

OK, I'll just take the easy one:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/06/jean-marie-le-pen-fined-again-dismissing-holocaust-detail

I don't have time to point out the rest of the obvious shit to you

-Matt

No you don't do you ? In fact you have no valid points at all !

I asked when has SHE, Marine denied the holocaust , and you failed to get that , and reply with a link to a statement by her father....lol.....in fact the article mentions that the father criticises his daughter for not sharing his view! wake up or read better ! "

The point above that you replied to referred to Le Pen as a "Holocaust denier's daughter", you then mis-interpreted, mis-read, or just conveniently ignored that and asked "Care to back up your statements? When has she denied the Holocaust?". I was merely backing up the statement that she is a holocaust deniers daughter. Rather than you 'Conwaying' and just repeating one of the words, but answering a different question.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"I bet Tony is part of the flat earth movement! tell us Tony, is the spherical earth just a con made up by NASA?

Is FEMA running death camps?

Are contrails secret government spraying missions?

Was 9/11 faked? "

.

No

Mmmmmm

Could be

Definitely

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse!

Hahahahahahahahahaha... Oh, you make me laugh Tony.

So you don't evaluate the content against it's author at all? Not even in the case of information from a 'lefty retard'? I've seen enough of Alex Jones' videos to know the guy is completely unhinged. If you want to align yourself with that, then go ahead. I won't/can't think any less of your views.

And nice jibe on the intellectual incapacity

-Matt

You don't get it do you ?

One can obtain information from any source ,regardless of origin !

In fact these days , to get any decent picture of a situation , one should consult different sources !

Just because I watch , or analyse info from a certain source , be it left or right, it doesn't equate to being aligned with it !

And unfortunately there are a lot of unhinged folks on both sides of the political spectrum ! "

Yes a diverse set of sources is always good. And, as I admitted, I has watched Alex Jones' videos myself to see what he goes on about. I also keep an eye on the Sun and the Daily Mail... not to use to support my arguments as I don't agree with their agenda, but to try and understand what 'the people' have been reading to lead them to be so mis-informed on some issues.

But there comes a point where you have to draw a line and realise that some sources are just plain out mis-information. Infowars is one of them. How many other news outlets do you know have a revenue model of selling 'brain force' supplements? Selling some kind of unproved snake oil to people to supposedly help them be immune to the main stream media.

Does that not at all set any alarm bells off in your mind?

This is not just a 'source' of idle curiosity information for you, or even part of your 'comedy', this is someone who's videos you have used to attempt to support some of your more extreme viewpoints.

-Matt

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By *xplicitlyricsMan  over a year ago

south dublin

Im about 95% sure Tonys just trolling for comedic purposes.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Im about 95% sure Tonys just trolling for comedic purposes. "
You do realise he's a stand up comedian.He makes me laugh daily

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

lets not forget the racist candidate is still under judicial investigation for a variety of corruption charges including breach of trust and organised fraud - all of which carry prison sentences of up to 10 years .... fingers crossed she goes down

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?"

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

"

I said racist?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

"

Those rules would apply to any race then.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

I said racist?"

How would you describe these policies?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

Those rules would apply to any race then. "

And in practice,what groups do you think these laws would mainly target?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

Those rules would apply to any race then. "

It depends how you define race.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

Those rules would apply to any race then.

And in practice,what groups do you think these laws would mainly target?"

What evidence should i base my answer upon?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

Those rules would apply to any race then.

It depends how you define race."

How do you define race?

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

Those rules would apply to any race then.

And in practice,what groups do you think these laws would mainly target?

What evidence should i base my answer upon?"

Use whatever evidence you wish, same as you would for any other opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

I said racist?

How would you describe these policies?"

Similar to ones that already exist in most countries

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse!

Hahahahahahahahahaha... Oh, you make me laugh Tony.

So you don't evaluate the content against it's author at all? Not even in the case of information from a 'lefty retard'? I've seen enough of Alex Jones' videos to know the guy is completely unhinged. If you want to align yourself with that, then go ahead. I won't/can't think any less of your views.

And nice jibe on the intellectual incapacity

-Matt

You don't get it do you ?

One can obtain information from any source ,regardless of origin !

In fact these days , to get any decent picture of a situation , one should consult different sources !

Just because I watch , or analyse info from a certain source , be it left or right, it doesn't equate to being aligned with it !

And unfortunately there are a lot of unhinged folks on both sides of the political spectrum !

Yes a diverse set of sources is always good. And, as I admitted, I has watched Alex Jones' videos myself to see what he goes on about. I also keep an eye on the Sun and the Daily Mail... not to use to support my arguments as I don't agree with their agenda, but to try and understand what 'the people' have been reading to lead them to be so mis-informed on some issues.

But there comes a point where you have to draw a line and realise that some sources are just plain out mis-information. Infowars is one of them. How many other news outlets do you know have a revenue model of selling 'brain force' supplements? Selling some kind of unproved snake oil to people to supposedly help them be immune to the main stream media.

Does that not at all set any alarm bells off in your mind?

This is not just a 'source' of idle curiosity information for you, or even part of your 'comedy', this is someone who's videos you have used to attempt to support some of your more extreme viewpoints.

-Matt"

Funny how you selectively picked out the 'brain force' supplements as an example in an attempt to belittle the site. If you have looked at info wars like you claim to have done you will know they sell a wide range of merchandise besides supplements such as T-shirts, jumpers, hoodies and other clothing items (do you have a problem with items of clothing too?). It's how the site maintains funding to remain relatively independent outside the mainstream media and their funding methods which I don't have a problem with. Not sure why you would have a problem with a website selling products though, but it seems in this case you do? Only the incredibly naive and gullible are willing to swallow everything the mainstream media shove down your necks on a daily basis, best to keep an open mind and look at alternative sources of information. Info wars is usually one of the first places to run with any new Wikileaks stories and look at the leaks in detail which is more than can be said from the mainstream media.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

Those rules would apply to any race then.

And in practice,what groups do you think these laws would mainly target?

What evidence should i base my answer upon?

Use whatever evidence you wish, same as you would for any other opinion."

Id have thought people from outside the EU.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Which part of Marine Le Pen's manifesto was racist?

* Reserving certain rights now available to all residents, including free education, to French citizens only.

* Employers who hire foreigners to pay a tax worth 10 percent of the salary paid to those people.

* Make it much harder to become a French citizen -- being born in France would give no right to citizenship anymore.

Those rules would apply to any race then.

It depends how you define race.

How do you define race?"

Plenty of definitions online, one which is "a socially constructed category of identification based on physical characteristics, ancestry, historical affiliation, or shared culture" I would posit the French have a shared culture and would therefore meet this definition of a race.

Couple that with a definition of racism: "a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to dominate others or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.

a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination."

Again I would posit that the FN believe the French to be superior and deserving of certain rights and privileges, and other races are inferior, and therefore should be denied the rights and privileges afforded to the French.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse!

Hahahahahahahahahaha... Oh, you make me laugh Tony.

So you don't evaluate the content against it's author at all? Not even in the case of information from a 'lefty retard'? I've seen enough of Alex Jones' videos to know the guy is completely unhinged. If you want to align yourself with that, then go ahead. I won't/can't think any less of your views.

And nice jibe on the intellectual incapacity

-Matt

You don't get it do you ?

One can obtain information from any source ,regardless of origin !

In fact these days , to get any decent picture of a situation , one should consult different sources !

Just because I watch , or analyse info from a certain source , be it left or right, it doesn't equate to being aligned with it !

And unfortunately there are a lot of unhinged folks on both sides of the political spectrum !

Yes a diverse set of sources is always good. And, as I admitted, I has watched Alex Jones' videos myself to see what he goes on about. I also keep an eye on the Sun and the Daily Mail... not to use to support my arguments as I don't agree with their agenda, but to try and understand what 'the people' have been reading to lead them to be so mis-informed on some issues.

But there comes a point where you have to draw a line and realise that some sources are just plain out mis-information. Infowars is one of them. How many other news outlets do you know have a revenue model of selling 'brain force' supplements? Selling some kind of unproved snake oil to people to supposedly help them be immune to the main stream media.

Does that not at all set any alarm bells off in your mind?

This is not just a 'source' of idle curiosity information for you, or even part of your 'comedy', this is someone who's videos you have used to attempt to support some of your more extreme viewpoints.

-Matt

Funny how you selectively picked out the 'brain force' supplements as an example in an attempt to belittle the site. If you have looked at info wars like you claim to have done you will know they sell a wide range of merchandise besides supplements such as T-shirts, jumpers, hoodies and other clothing items (do you have a problem with items of clothing too?). It's how the site maintains funding to remain relatively independent outside the mainstream media and their funding methods which I don't have a problem with. Not sure why you would have a problem with a website selling products though, but it seems in this case you do? Only the incredibly naive and gullible are willing to swallow everything the mainstream media shove down your necks on a daily basis, best to keep an open mind and look at alternative sources of information. Info wars is usually one of the first places to run with any new Wikileaks stories and look at the leaks in detail which is more than can be said from the mainstream media. "

Alex jones spoon feeds you the conspiracy you wish to believe in.My favourite conspiracy is..

Alex Jones is a CIA operative spreading disinformation to the conspiracy theorists.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"I bet Tony is part of the flat earth movement! tell us Tony, is the spherical earth just a con made up by NASA?

Is FEMA running death camps?

Are contrails secret government spraying missions?

Was 9/11 faked? "

See you are the type of naive, close minded, gullible, air head who believes everything the mainstream media shoves down your neck on a daily basis I was talking about. Do you never question anything in life or look for alternative sources of information? While you're asking questions let's look at another one.....

Did Saddam Hussain have weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"I bet Tony is part of the flat earth movement! tell us Tony, is the spherical earth just a con made up by NASA?

Is FEMA running death camps?

Are contrails secret government spraying missions?

Was 9/11 faked?

See you are the type of naive, close minded, gullible, air head who believes everything the mainstream media shoves down your neck on a daily basis I was talking about. Do you never question anything in life or look for alternative sources of information? While you're asking questions let's look at another one.....

Did Saddam Hussain have weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?

"

Do you think the earth is flat centaur?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse!

Hahahahahahahahahaha... Oh, you make me laugh Tony.

So you don't evaluate the content against it's author at all? Not even in the case of information from a 'lefty retard'? I've seen enough of Alex Jones' videos to know the guy is completely unhinged. If you want to align yourself with that, then go ahead. I won't/can't think any less of your views.

And nice jibe on the intellectual incapacity

-Matt

You don't get it do you ?

One can obtain information from any source ,regardless of origin !

In fact these days , to get any decent picture of a situation , one should consult different sources !

Just because I watch , or analyse info from a certain source , be it left or right, it doesn't equate to being aligned with it !

And unfortunately there are a lot of unhinged folks on both sides of the political spectrum !

Yes a diverse set of sources is always good. And, as I admitted, I has watched Alex Jones' videos myself to see what he goes on about. I also keep an eye on the Sun and the Daily Mail... not to use to support my arguments as I don't agree with their agenda, but to try and understand what 'the people' have been reading to lead them to be so mis-informed on some issues.

But there comes a point where you have to draw a line and realise that some sources are just plain out mis-information. Infowars is one of them. How many other news outlets do you know have a revenue model of selling 'brain force' supplements? Selling some kind of unproved snake oil to people to supposedly help them be immune to the main stream media.

Does that not at all set any alarm bells off in your mind?

This is not just a 'source' of idle curiosity information for you, or even part of your 'comedy', this is someone who's videos you have used to attempt to support some of your more extreme viewpoints.

-Matt

Funny how you selectively picked out the 'brain force' supplements as an example in an attempt to belittle the site. If you have looked at info wars like you claim to have done you will know they sell a wide range of merchandise besides supplements such as T-shirts, jumpers, hoodies and other clothing items (do you have a problem with items of clothing too?). It's how the site maintains funding to remain relatively independent outside the mainstream media and their funding methods which I don't have a problem with. Not sure why you would have a problem with a website selling products though, but it seems in this case you do? Only the incredibly naive and gullible are willing to swallow everything the mainstream media shove down your necks on a daily basis, best to keep an open mind and look at alternative sources of information. Info wars is usually one of the first places to run with any new Wikileaks stories and look at the leaks in detail which is more than can be said from the mainstream media. Alex jones spoon feeds you the conspiracy you wish to believe in.My favourite conspiracy is..

Alex Jones is a CIA operative spreading disinformation to the conspiracy theorists. "

You think the Wikileaks that info wars reports on are conspiracy theories too then?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport"

Weird. Makes no sense.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense. "

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?"

By denying them rights?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse!

Hahahahahahahahahaha... Oh, you make me laugh Tony.

So you don't evaluate the content against it's author at all? Not even in the case of information from a 'lefty retard'? I've seen enough of Alex Jones' videos to know the guy is completely unhinged. If you want to align yourself with that, then go ahead. I won't/can't think any less of your views.

And nice jibe on the intellectual incapacity

-Matt

You don't get it do you ?

One can obtain information from any source ,regardless of origin !

In fact these days , to get any decent picture of a situation , one should consult different sources !

Just because I watch , or analyse info from a certain source , be it left or right, it doesn't equate to being aligned with it !

And unfortunately there are a lot of unhinged folks on both sides of the political spectrum !

Yes a diverse set of sources is always good. And, as I admitted, I has watched Alex Jones' videos myself to see what he goes on about. I also keep an eye on the Sun and the Daily Mail... not to use to support my arguments as I don't agree with their agenda, but to try and understand what 'the people' have been reading to lead them to be so mis-informed on some issues.

But there comes a point where you have to draw a line and realise that some sources are just plain out mis-information. Infowars is one of them. How many other news outlets do you know have a revenue model of selling 'brain force' supplements? Selling some kind of unproved snake oil to people to supposedly help them be immune to the main stream media.

Does that not at all set any alarm bells off in your mind?

This is not just a 'source' of idle curiosity information for you, or even part of your 'comedy', this is someone who's videos you have used to attempt to support some of your more extreme viewpoints.

-Matt

Funny how you selectively picked out the 'brain force' supplements as an example in an attempt to belittle the site. If you have looked at info wars like you claim to have done you will know they sell a wide range of merchandise besides supplements such as T-shirts, jumpers, hoodies and other clothing items (do you have a problem with items of clothing too?). It's how the site maintains funding to remain relatively independent outside the mainstream media and their funding methods which I don't have a problem with. Not sure why you would have a problem with a website selling products though, but it seems in this case you do? Only the incredibly naive and gullible are willing to swallow everything the mainstream media shove down your necks on a daily basis, best to keep an open mind and look at alternative sources of information. Info wars is usually one of the first places to run with any new Wikileaks stories and look at the leaks in detail which is more than can be said from the mainstream media. Alex jones spoon feeds you the conspiracy you wish to believe in.My favourite conspiracy is..

Alex Jones is a CIA operative spreading disinformation to the conspiracy theorists.

You think the Wikileaks that info wars reports on are conspiracy theories too then? "

If its via alex Jones its bullshit.!You still haven't delivered on the magical free energy you and Alex Jones says trump has.

Do you follow David icke also..hes my favourite.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights? "

Who has a right to a 2nd passport through religion? Do you?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights? "

It would be interesting to contrast these policies with those of Israel's treatment i

Of the Palestinians.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

It would be interesting to contrast these policies with those of Israel's treatment i

Of the Palestinians."

so you saying two wrongs make a right? that's an interesting yet strangely bizarre concept you believe in then

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

Who has a right to a 2nd passport through religion? Do you?"

The UK allows dual citizenship. You don't think it would be discriminatory to allow dual citizenship with every country in the world expect one?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

It would be interesting to contrast these policies with those of Israel's treatment i

Of the Palestinians.

so you saying two wrongs make a right? that's an interesting yet strangely bizarre concept you believe in then"

Nope. Just be interesting to see how right wing Israel is.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

It would be interesting to contrast these policies with those of Israel's treatment i

Of the Palestinians.

so you saying two wrongs make a right? that's an interesting yet strangely bizarre concept you believe in then

Nope. Just be interesting to see how right wing Israel is."

Obviously pretty high on the xenophobic scale!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

Who has a right to a 2nd passport through religion? Do you?

The UK allows dual citizenship. You don't think it would be discriminatory to allow dual citizenship with every country in the world expect one? "

What does the UK have to do with it?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse!

Hahahahahahahahahaha... Oh, you make me laugh Tony.

So you don't evaluate the content against it's author at all? Not even in the case of information from a 'lefty retard'? I've seen enough of Alex Jones' videos to know the guy is completely unhinged. If you want to align yourself with that, then go ahead. I won't/can't think any less of your views.

And nice jibe on the intellectual incapacity

-Matt

You don't get it do you ?

One can obtain information from any source ,regardless of origin !

In fact these days , to get any decent picture of a situation , one should consult different sources !

Just because I watch , or analyse info from a certain source , be it left or right, it doesn't equate to being aligned with it !

And unfortunately there are a lot of unhinged folks on both sides of the political spectrum !

Yes a diverse set of sources is always good. And, as I admitted, I has watched Alex Jones' videos myself to see what he goes on about. I also keep an eye on the Sun and the Daily Mail... not to use to support my arguments as I don't agree with their agenda, but to try and understand what 'the people' have been reading to lead them to be so mis-informed on some issues.

But there comes a point where you have to draw a line and realise that some sources are just plain out mis-information. Infowars is one of them. How many other news outlets do you know have a revenue model of selling 'brain force' supplements? Selling some kind of unproved snake oil to people to supposedly help them be immune to the main stream media.

Does that not at all set any alarm bells off in your mind?

This is not just a 'source' of idle curiosity information for you, or even part of your 'comedy', this is someone who's videos you have used to attempt to support some of your more extreme viewpoints.

-Matt

Funny how you selectively picked out the 'brain force' supplements as an example in an attempt to belittle the site. If you have looked at info wars like you claim to have done you will know they sell a wide range of merchandise besides supplements such as T-shirts, jumpers, hoodies and other clothing items (do you have a problem with items of clothing too?). It's how the site maintains funding to remain relatively independent outside the mainstream media and their funding methods which I don't have a problem with. Not sure why you would have a problem with a website selling products though, but it seems in this case you do? Only the incredibly naive and gullible are willing to swallow everything the mainstream media shove down your necks on a daily basis, best to keep an open mind and look at alternative sources of information. Info wars is usually one of the first places to run with any new Wikileaks stories and look at the leaks in detail which is more than can be said from the mainstream media. Alex jones spoon feeds you the conspiracy you wish to believe in.My favourite conspiracy is..

Alex Jones is a CIA operative spreading disinformation to the conspiracy theorists.

You think the Wikileaks that info wars reports on are conspiracy theories too then? If its via alex Jones its bullshit.!You still haven't delivered on the magical free energy you and Alex Jones says trump has.

Do you follow David icke also..hes my favourite. "

Many things David Icke has said over the years which people scoffed at to begin with have turned out to be true in the fullness of time. If you were living in the 1600's and someone invented a battery powered torch back then you are the type of person who would be waving your pitchfork about and calling for them to be put on trial for witchcraft.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

Who has a right to a 2nd passport through religion? Do you?

The UK allows dual citizenship. You don't think it would be discriminatory to allow dual citizenship with every country in the world expect one?

What does the UK have to do with it? "

I'm a UK citizen and you asked about my rights you muppet!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

It would be interesting to contrast these policies with those of Israel's treatment i

Of the Palestinians.

so you saying two wrongs make a right? that's an interesting yet strangely bizarre concept you believe in then

Nope. Just be interesting to see how right wing Israel is."

maybe ... but what's that got to do with frontnational's agenda apart from fuck all?

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

It would be interesting to contrast these policies with those of Israel's treatment i

Of the Palestinians.

so you saying two wrongs make a right? that's an interesting yet strangely bizarre concept you believe in then

Nope. Just be interesting to see how right wing Israel is.

maybe ... but what's that got to do with frontnational's agenda apart from fuck all?"

Were you dropped as a baby?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

It would be interesting to contrast these policies with those of Israel's treatment i

Of the Palestinians.

so you saying two wrongs make a right? that's an interesting yet strangely bizarre concept you believe in then

Nope. Just be interesting to see how right wing Israel is.

maybe ... but what's that got to do with frontnational's agenda apart from fuck all?

Were you dropped as a baby? "

you're being puerile ... back to infant school with you

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Some french Jews voted for le pen.

The enemey of my enemy is my friend for some.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

You see some on here are capable of a civilized debate , but some are not !

The fact is some lefties on here use abuse and labels as a tactic either to rattle and provoke , or because they don't have valid arguments !

So this time I decided to shake the tree to see what fell off.....

Says the man who calls anyone with an opinion that differs from his own 'intellectually dishonest'. A man who posts videos from Infowars, Prison Planet and other extreme right wing nutjob site to justify his views.

-Matt

So what ?

Its not about the origin of a video or source , its about the content !

If you don't have the ability to analyse

the content , and just judge it from the origin.... it says a lot about you !

But then intellectual dishonesty , sometimes stems from intellectual incapacity , and that is worse!

Hahahahahahahahahaha... Oh, you make me laugh Tony.

So you don't evaluate the content against it's author at all? Not even in the case of information from a 'lefty retard'? I've seen enough of Alex Jones' videos to know the guy is completely unhinged. If you want to align yourself with that, then go ahead. I won't/can't think any less of your views.

And nice jibe on the intellectual incapacity

-Matt

You don't get it do you ?

One can obtain information from any source ,regardless of origin !

In fact these days , to get any decent picture of a situation , one should consult different sources !

Just because I watch , or analyse info from a certain source , be it left or right, it doesn't equate to being aligned with it !

And unfortunately there are a lot of unhinged folks on both sides of the political spectrum !

Yes a diverse set of sources is always good. And, as I admitted, I has watched Alex Jones' videos myself to see what he goes on about. I also keep an eye on the Sun and the Daily Mail... not to use to support my arguments as I don't agree with their agenda, but to try and understand what 'the people' have been reading to lead them to be so mis-informed on some issues.

But there comes a point where you have to draw a line and realise that some sources are just plain out mis-information. Infowars is one of them. How many other news outlets do you know have a revenue model of selling 'brain force' supplements? Selling some kind of unproved snake oil to people to supposedly help them be immune to the main stream media.

Does that not at all set any alarm bells off in your mind?

This is not just a 'source' of idle curiosity information for you, or even part of your 'comedy', this is someone who's videos you have used to attempt to support some of your more extreme viewpoints.

-Matt

Funny how you selectively picked out the 'brain force' supplements as an example in an attempt to belittle the site. If you have looked at info wars like you claim to have done you will know they sell a wide range of merchandise besides supplements such as T-shirts, jumpers, hoodies and other clothing items (do you have a problem with items of clothing too?). It's how the site maintains funding to remain relatively independent outside the mainstream media and their funding methods which I don't have a problem with. Not sure why you would have a problem with a website selling products though, but it seems in this case you do? Only the incredibly naive and gullible are willing to swallow everything the mainstream media shove down your necks on a daily basis, best to keep an open mind and look at alternative sources of information. Info wars is usually one of the first places to run with any new Wikileaks stories and look at the leaks in detail which is more than can be said from the mainstream media. Alex jones spoon feeds you the conspiracy you wish to believe in.My favourite conspiracy is..

Alex Jones is a CIA operative spreading disinformation to the conspiracy theorists.

You think the Wikileaks that info wars reports on are conspiracy theories too then? If its via alex Jones its bullshit.!You still haven't delivered on the magical free energy you and Alex Jones says trump has.

Do you follow David icke also..hes my favourite.

Many things David Icke has said over the years which people scoffed at to begin with have turned out to be true in the fullness of time. If you were living in the 1600's and someone invented a battery powered torch back then you are the type of person who would be waving your pitchfork about and calling for them to be put on trial for witchcraft. "

Do repitillians run the planet..?If so i'll get my pitch fork.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

Who has a right to a 2nd passport through religion? Do you?

The UK allows dual citizenship. You don't think it would be discriminatory to allow dual citizenship with every country in the world expect one?

What does the UK have to do with it?

I'm a UK citizen and you asked about my rights you muppet! "

I asked about your rights through religion. Apologise

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

right enough i scoffed when oxford united's ex-goalie, Mr. D Icke predicted the world would definately end in 1997

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

Who has a right to a 2nd passport through religion? Do you?

The UK allows dual citizenship. You don't think it would be discriminatory to allow dual citizenship with every country in the world expect one?

What does the UK have to do with it?

I'm a UK citizen and you asked about my rights you muppet!

I asked about your rights through religion. Apologise"

I accept your apology. I never said that anyone gets rights through their religion, they don't. However allowing citizens to have dual nationality for every country in the world except one is discriminatory.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

Who has a right to a 2nd passport through religion? Do you?

The UK allows dual citizenship. You don't think it would be discriminatory to allow dual citizenship with every country in the world expect one?

What does the UK have to do with it?

I'm a UK citizen and you asked about my rights you muppet!

I asked about your rights through religion. Apologise

I accept your apology. I never said that anyone gets rights through their religion, they don't. However allowing citizens to have dual nationality for every country in the world except one is discriminatory. "

You really are illiterate and ignorant of facts

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

I have done another thread

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan  over a year ago

salisbury


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

It would be interesting to contrast these policies with those of Israel's treatment i

Of the Palestinians.

so you saying two wrongs make a right? that's an interesting yet strangely bizarre concept you believe in then

Nope. Just be interesting to see how right wing Israel is.

maybe ... but what's that got to do with frontnational's agenda apart from fuck all?

Were you dropped as a baby?

you're being puerile ... back to infant school with you"

You have an obsession that i don't stray away from what you perceive to be the forum thread, which stifles conversation and debate. Yet i don't see you following anyone else around, policing their posts. Do you fancy me? Or do you have some kind of attention disorder?

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"when asked several months ago by a journalist from le monde wether the frontnational now oppose the enforced re-patriation of second and susequent generation aficans, asians and south americans she said that although it wasn't in the current manifesto they would not rule out implementing this policy.

she also reiterated that frontnational support their traditional stance of banning french jews from emigrating to israel and make it illegal for french jews to have an israeli passport

Weird. Makes no sense.

Thats what I thought. So they like Jews then and want them to stay?

By denying them rights?

Who has a right to a 2nd passport through religion? Do you?

The UK allows dual citizenship. You don't think it would be discriminatory to allow dual citizenship with every country in the world expect one?

What does the UK have to do with it?

I'm a UK citizen and you asked about my rights you muppet!

I asked about your rights through religion. Apologise

I accept your apology. I never said that anyone gets rights through their religion, they don't. However allowing citizens to have dual nationality for every country in the world except one is discriminatory.

You really are illiterate and ignorant of facts"

which fact am I ignorant of? You seem to be completely ignorant what what is discriminatory or racist. Can you name any western politician or political party that is far right and racist?

Sorry, that might be too tough for you as I know you struggle with the concept of right and left when it comes to politics!

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