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"Xenophobia a bad thing? " I would say yes but if you are too trusting someone somewhere will fuck you're over 
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"Wether you feel it's good or bad is a matter of opinion. However its a very natural human response. Hell we've telling our kids for generations to watch out for strangers despite the FACT most of them are murdered and assaulted by people they know! Humans are just slightly more evolved apes,I really fail to grasp why we get so shocked by their behaviour at times "  | |||
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"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation. "Not in a million years | |||
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"One ppl one flag one nation uv got the makings there of a number one song I'll b huming to that all day " . Mmmmmm Strange.. I've heard that before somewhere ein reich ein volk ein fuhrer | |||
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"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation. ". Unfortunately, factually were actually going the opposite way. In the last 100 years were gaining countries not losing them  | |||
"Are there any countries that aren't xenophobic? " . Small islands states in the Pacific due to the nature are quite welcoming I'm lead to believe.. aloha  | |||
"one nation, under a groove? Do you promise to funk? The whole funk, nothin' but the funk ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjbVmX1_wh8 now that's a clinton worth voting for president .... get down and shake that thang owwwww "Maybe that'll be the anthem for planet earth. | |||
"One ppl one flag one nation uv got the makings there of a number one song I'll b huming to that all day . Mmmmmm Strange.. I've heard that before somewhere ein reich ein volk ein fuhrer" I was thinking more like star trek.But yes there will always be dystopian vision of world governance maybe like brave new world or 1984.I like Jamaica's national motto which is "Out of many one people." | |||
"Are there any countries that aren't xenophobic? " Do you mean the national culture or the individual people themselves? | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation. "Why do you think it's a 'natural' progression, several parts of the world are still tribal? Most people still have a tribal outlook even in this country (good = me, hard working ordinary people, the downtrodden, bad = the elite, immigrants, muslims etc). The main reason tribes don't formerly exist in 'the west' anymore is because they got wiped out or absorbed by larger groups who develop technology at a faster rate and it enabled them to kill more efficiently. | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? " Yes if you want to create a world with the highest possible living standards for as many people as possible. No if you crave stability in society above all else. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years"How about in 2 million?  | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Why do you think it's a 'natural' progression, several parts of the world are still tribal?
Most people still have a tribal outlook even in this country (good = me, hard working ordinary people, the downtrodden, bad = the elite, immigrants, muslims etc).
The main reason tribes don't formerly exist in 'the west' anymore is because they got wiped out or absorbed by larger groups who develop technology at a faster rate and it enabled them to kill more efficiently. "We are surprisingly altruistic as a species.The method or ideology that causes us to group isn't relevant. Its a natural thing to join the herd.Its in our nature.Obviously there are tribes today that are isolated and choose to be, but they arent civilsations they wont be putting a human on mars or adding to the some of human knowledge . | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation. "Luckily I'm sat on shitter, otherwise I would pissed myself at that outlandish idea | |||
"one nation, under a groove? Do you promise to funk? The whole funk, nothin' but the funk ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjbVmX1_wh8 now that's a clinton worth voting for president .... get down and shake that thang owwwww "Nothing but the funk At last we can agree Bootsy Collins | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Why do you think it's a 'natural' progression, several parts of the world are still tribal?
Most people still have a tribal outlook even in this country (good = me, hard working ordinary people, the downtrodden, bad = the elite, immigrants, muslims etc).
The main reason tribes don't formerly exist in 'the west' anymore is because they got wiped out or absorbed by larger groups who develop technology at a faster rate and it enabled them to kill more efficiently. We are surprisingly altruistic as a species.The method or ideology that causes us to group isn't relevant. Its a natural thing to join the herd.Its in our nature.Obviously there are tribes today that are isolated and choose to be, but they arent civilsations they wont be putting a human on mars or adding to the some of human knowledge . "Well i think it's more that those who didn't join the herd died out, but same difference! There are entire countries that are still tribal - the congo, papa new guinea, various parts of the middle east, london. I'd say humans are reciprocally altruistic. Most of the negative political narratives are basically saying "we're in this in-group and there's this other group (immigrants / muslims / political elites / lazy chavs) who are ripping us off. We're giving to them but they aren't giving back". | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Why do you think it's a 'natural' progression, several parts of the world are still tribal?
Most people still have a tribal outlook even in this country (good = me, hard working ordinary people, the downtrodden, bad = the elite, immigrants, muslims etc).
The main reason tribes don't formerly exist in 'the west' anymore is because they got wiped out or absorbed by larger groups who develop technology at a faster rate and it enabled them to kill more efficiently. We are surprisingly altruistic as a species.The method or ideology that causes us to group isn't relevant. Its a natural thing to join the herd.Its in our nature.Obviously there are tribes today that are isolated and choose to be, but they arent civilsations they wont be putting a human on mars or adding to the some of human knowledge .
Well i think it's more that those who didn't join the herd died out, but same difference! There are entire countries that are still tribal - the congo, papa new guinea, various parts of the middle east, london.
I'd say humans are reciprocally altruistic. Most of the negative political narratives are basically saying "we're in this in-group and there's this other group (immigrants / muslims / political elites / lazy chavs) who are ripping us off. We're giving to them but they aren't giving back". "Nope I can't find it anywhere I've looked and even googled it, and it definitely says London is the capital of the UK located in England Are they thinking of moving it somewhere else like they do with American football teams? | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Why do you think it's a 'natural' progression, several parts of the world are still tribal?
Most people still have a tribal outlook even in this country (good = me, hard working ordinary people, the downtrodden, bad = the elite, immigrants, muslims etc).
The main reason tribes don't formerly exist in 'the west' anymore is because they got wiped out or absorbed by larger groups who develop technology at a faster rate and it enabled them to kill more efficiently. We are surprisingly altruistic as a species.The method or ideology that causes us to group isn't relevant. Its a natural thing to join the herd.Its in our nature.Obviously there are tribes today that are isolated and choose to be, but they arent civilsations they wont be putting a human on mars or adding to the some of human knowledge .
Well i think it's more that those who didn't join the herd died out, but same difference! There are entire countries that are still tribal - the congo, papa new guinea, various parts of the middle east, london.
I'd say humans are reciprocally altruistic. Most of the negative political narratives are basically saying "we're in this in-group and there's this other group (immigrants / muslims / political elites / lazy chavs) who are ripping us off. We're giving to them but they aren't giving back". "What have you got against Muslims I thought you wasn't racist | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Why do you think it's a 'natural' progression, several parts of the world are still tribal?
Most people still have a tribal outlook even in this country (good = me, hard working ordinary people, the downtrodden, bad = the elite, immigrants, muslims etc).
The main reason tribes don't formerly exist in 'the west' anymore is because they got wiped out or absorbed by larger groups who develop technology at a faster rate and it enabled them to kill more efficiently. We are surprisingly altruistic as a species.The method or ideology that causes us to group isn't relevant. Its a natural thing to join the herd.Its in our nature.Obviously there are tribes today that are isolated and choose to be, but they arent civilsations they wont be putting a human on mars or adding to the some of human knowledge .
Well i think it's more that those who didn't join the herd died out, but same difference! There are entire countries that are still tribal - the congo, papa new guinea, various parts of the middle east, london.
I'd say humans are reciprocally altruistic. Most of the negative political narratives are basically saying "we're in this in-group and there's this other group (immigrants / muslims / political elites / lazy chavs) who are ripping us off. We're giving to them but they aren't giving back".
What have you got against Muslims I thought you wasn't racist"Non-sequitur. I'm not the one suggesting that a stagnant econony is preferable to letting immigrants in because they bring terrorism and islamification. | |||
Never let facts interupt a political debate. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years"You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms? I give it another 1,000 tops. | |||
"Wether you feel it's good or bad is a matter of opinion. However its a very natural human response. Hell we've telling our kids for generations to watch out for strangers despite the FACT most of them are murdered and assaulted by people they know! Humans are just slightly more evolved apes,I really fail to grasp why we get so shocked by their behaviour at times " | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops. "Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth. "The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth. "Look what the Romans gave the world of the time and when they left..the dark age. The world population is now much much larger and we are more interconnected than anytime in history.I think its inevitable we become one nation one day. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth.
The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today. "I don't believe there is any country or organisation today that comes close to having the scope of authority over as many different ethnic groups / different people as the roman empire did. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth.
The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today.
I don't believe there is any country or organisation today that comes close to having the scope of authority over as many different ethnic groups / different people as the roman empire did. "The population of the Roman empire was about 60 million (generally accepted figure in estimates ranging from 45 to 120 million). So less than the UK today. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth.
The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today.
I don't believe there is any country or organisation today that comes close to having the scope of authority over as many different ethnic groups / different people as the roman empire did.
The population of the Roman empire was about 60 million (generally accepted figure in estimates ranging from 45 to 120 million).
So less than the UK today.
"Which was about 20% of the worlds population at the time. So who today has direct authority over 20% of the worlds population spread over at least 6 major distinct ethnic groups? | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth.
The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today.
I don't believe there is any country or organisation today that comes close to having the scope of authority over as many different ethnic groups / different people as the roman empire did.
The population of the Roman empire was about 60 million (generally accepted figure in estimates ranging from 45 to 120 million).
So less than the UK today.
". But what was the population of the earth back then?. I think the point he's making is they ruled over a varied religious, cultural and ethnic mix | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops. "Even quicker if aliens show up. | |||
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"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth.
The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today.
I don't believe there is any country or organisation today that comes close to having the scope of authority over as many different ethnic groups / different people as the roman empire did.
The population of the Roman empire was about 60 million (generally accepted figure in estimates ranging from 45 to 120 million).
So less than the UK today.
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But what was the population of the earth back then?.
I think the point he's making is they ruled over a varied religious, cultural and ethnic mix"Bingo. In terms of authorities today that rule over a comparable population in terms of % of world population you have China which is 97% ethnic Han or India. India is more diverse than China but nothing like the Roman empire which covered parts of europe, africa and the middle east. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth. Look what the Romans gave the world of the time and when they left..the dark age.
The world population is now much much larger and we are more interconnected than anytime in history.I think its inevitable we become one nation one day. ". Historically theres an argument to be made that it was ancient Greece and its sacking that actually pushed the Roman empire and to an extent the middle East, the Greek empire was way way way ahead of anything else for hundreds of years. In fact if they hadn't been sacked by the Romans the world could be hundreds of years ahead today than what we are | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth.
The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today.
I don't believe there is any country or organisation today that comes close to having the scope of authority over as many different ethnic groups / different people as the roman empire did.
The population of the Roman empire was about 60 million (generally accepted figure in estimates ranging from 45 to 120 million).
So less than the UK today.
Which was about 20% of the worlds population at the time. So who today has direct authority over 20% of the worlds population spread over at least 6 major distinct ethnic groups? "I don't think the percentages are that relevant. The absolute numbers are more important in my opinion. Also, the Romans didn't have multinational corporations. Facebook has 2 billion monthly users now. And to be honest I find that type of thing much scarier than a global political union. It'll happen one way or another, the only question is the form. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth.
The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today.
I don't believe there is any country or organisation today that comes close to having the scope of authority over as many different ethnic groups / different people as the roman empire did.
The population of the Roman empire was about 60 million (generally accepted figure in estimates ranging from 45 to 120 million).
So less than the UK today.
Which was about 20% of the worlds population at the time. So who today has direct authority over 20% of the worlds population spread over at least 6 major distinct ethnic groups?
I don't think the percentages are that relevant. The absolute numbers are more important in my opinion.
Also, the Romans didn't have multinational corporations. Facebook has 2 billion monthly users now.
And to be honest I find that type of thing much scarier than a global political union.
It'll happen one way or another, the only question is the form.
"The point is that if an organisation can lose control of 20% of the worlds population then it makes little difference whether 20% was 60m people or 1.4bn. But anyway if you disagree with that then you disagree, let's move on. What do you find scary about facebook? I don't use it personally, if i want to know what my friends are having for dinner then i'll ask. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth.
The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today.
I don't believe there is any country or organisation today that comes close to having the scope of authority over as many different ethnic groups / different people as the roman empire did.
The population of the Roman empire was about 60 million (generally accepted figure in estimates ranging from 45 to 120 million).
So less than the UK today.
Which was about 20% of the worlds population at the time. So who today has direct authority over 20% of the worlds population spread over at least 6 major distinct ethnic groups?
I don't think the percentages are that relevant. The absolute numbers are more important in my opinion.
Also, the Romans didn't have multinational corporations. Facebook has 2 billion monthly users now.
And to be honest I find that type of thing much scarier than a global political union.
It'll happen one way or another, the only question is the form.
The point is that if an organisation can lose control of 20% of the worlds population then it makes little difference whether 20% was 60m people or 1.4bn. But anyway if you disagree with that then you disagree, let's move on. What do you find scary about facebook? I don't use it personally, if i want to know what my friends are having for dinner then i'll ask. "Not just Facebook specifically, it was an example. More the fact that many companies have more power and resources than many governments . I would personally like my elected government to have more power than the people who sell me sh*t | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth.
The Romans. Tiny compared to the globalised world today. "What do the romans do for us, apart from build tourist attractions like the wall and Roman baths plus the odd spa or 2 | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Yeah and a thousand years before that it was ruled by an empire that was as close to a world government as we've really seen. Pendulums go back and forth. Look what the Romans gave the world of the time and when they left..the dark age.
The world population is now much much larger and we are more interconnected than anytime in history.I think its inevitable we become one nation one day. .
Historically theres an argument to be made that it was ancient Greece and its sacking that actually pushed the Roman empire and to an extent the middle East, the Greek empire was way way way ahead of anything else for hundreds of years.
In fact if they hadn't been sacked by the Romans the world could be hundreds of years ahead today than what we are"Argh Greece, just booked our September break there, not been for years Really want to check out theWW2 history there, if anybody knows how I can get on a organised trip whilst there please let me know | |||
" What do you find scary about facebook? I don't use it personally, if i want to know what my friends are having for dinner then i'll ask. Not just Facebook specifically, it was an example. More the fact that many companies have more power and resources than many governments . I would personally like my elected government to have more power than the people who sell me sh*t " I see minimal correlation between people that get elected and competence to deal with long-term issues. Well run corporations stick to solid fundamentals and are more grounded in objective performance than poltiicans who would rather create an alternative universe where perception is reality. I think they balance each other out nicely in that sense. | |||
" What do you find scary about facebook? I don't use it personally, if i want to know what my friends are having for dinner then i'll ask. Not just Facebook specifically, it was an example. More the fact that many companies have more power and resources than many governments . I would personally like my elected government to have more power than the people who sell me sh*t I see minimal correlation between people that get elected and competence to deal with long-term issues. Well run corporations stick to solid fundamentals and are more grounded in objective performance than poltiicans who would rather create an alternative universe where perception is reality. I think they balance each other out nicely in that sense. " That may be true in some cases but not all, and who are they accountable too? | |||
"Wether you feel it's good or bad is a matter of opinion. However its a very natural human response. Hell we've telling our kids for generations to watch out for strangers despite the FACT most of them are murdered and assaulted by people they know! Humans are just slightly more evolved apes,I really fail to grasp why we get so shocked by their behaviour at times "Don't agree it's human nature. If someone feel over and needs help, we'll help them. That is human nature. Society is making us less human. Abstracting our nature with technology, forms or processes is removing us from what makes us human. | |||
" What do you find scary about facebook? I don't use it personally, if i want to know what my friends are having for dinner then i'll ask. Not just Facebook specifically, it was an example. More the fact that many companies have more power and resources than many governments . I would personally like my elected government to have more power than the people who sell me sh*t I see minimal correlation between people that get elected and competence to deal with long-term issues. Well run corporations stick to solid fundamentals and are more grounded in objective performance than poltiicans who would rather create an alternative universe where perception is reality. I think they balance each other out nicely in that sense. That may be true in some cases but not all, and who are they accountable too?" In theory the owners and regulators. But regulators have proven to be utterly useless in some major industries and one of the unforseen consequences of pension funds is that ownership is now diluted to meaningless influence. Which brings us to the more modern 'agent-principle problem'. | |||
" What do you find scary about facebook? I don't use it personally, if i want to know what my friends are having for dinner then i'll ask. Not just Facebook specifically, it was an example. More the fact that many companies have more power and resources than many governments . I would personally like my elected government to have more power than the people who sell me sh*t I see minimal correlation between people that get elected and competence to deal with long-term issues. Well run corporations stick to solid fundamentals and are more grounded in objective performance than poltiicans who would rather create an alternative universe where perception is reality. I think they balance each other out nicely in that sense. That may be true in some cases but not all, and who are they accountable too? In theory the owners and regulators. But regulators have proven to be utterly useless in some major industries and one of the unforseen consequences of pension funds is that ownership is now diluted to meaningless influence. Which brings us to the more modern 'agent-principle problem'. " Quite. But while business/shareholders and politicians/public both have an Agent-Principal relationship the former is more challenging. Even if a business is acting in the best interests of its shareholders that's not the same thing as the best interests of its customers or the larger public. And everyone of legal age is entitled to vote. Not everyone can afford to buy shares. | |||
"Wether you feel it's good or bad is a matter of opinion. However its a very natural human response. Hell we've telling our kids for generations to watch out for strangers despite the FACT most of them are murdered and assaulted by people they know! Humans are just slightly more evolved apes,I really fail to grasp why we get so shocked by their behaviour at times
Don't agree it's human nature. If someone feel over and needs help, we'll help them. That is human nature. Society is making us less human. Abstracting our nature with technology, forms or processes is removing us from what makes us human. " | |||
" What do you find scary about facebook? I don't use it personally, if i want to know what my friends are having for dinner then i'll ask. Not just Facebook specifically, it was an example. More the fact that many companies have more power and resources than many governments . I would personally like my elected government to have more power than the people who sell me sh*t I see minimal correlation between people that get elected and competence to deal with long-term issues. Well run corporations stick to solid fundamentals and are more grounded in objective performance than poltiicans who would rather create an alternative universe where perception is reality. I think they balance each other out nicely in that sense. That may be true in some cases but not all, and who are they accountable too? In theory the owners and regulators. But regulators have proven to be utterly useless in some major industries and one of the unforseen consequences of pension funds is that ownership is now diluted to meaningless influence. Which brings us to the more modern 'agent-principle problem'. Quite. But while business/shareholders and politicians/public both have an Agent-Principal relationship the former is more challenging. Even if a business is acting in the best interests of its shareholders that's not the same thing as the best interests of its customers or the larger public. And everyone of legal age is entitled to vote. Not everyone can afford to buy shares." Personally I'm not happy about everyone of legal age being able to vote and neither would many of the key enlightenment thinkers. Don't disagree with anything you said really | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops. "Have you not noticed the SNP, and then some of the welsh want independance too,and thats just the UK parts of spain want their own rule then there is the ukraine etc etc, its going the other way not to one. As for the romans they may have ruled a large proportion of the world but they did it by force not concensus now if you say we might end up being controlled by one super power through force then perhaps but all empires fall in the end. | |||
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"Which developed country do you think is most xenophobic? " Well Japan is the least interested in welcoming immigrants (imagine trump policies dressed up in clinton's nice language). In terms of government least interested in harmony I'd suggest turkey. In terms of people most confident about their own cultural superiority you can't beat the french. | |||
"Which developed country do you think is most xenophobic? Well Japan is the least interested in welcoming immigrants (imagine trump policies dressed up in clinton's nice language). In terms of government least interested in harmony I'd suggest turkey. In terms of people most confident about their own cultural superiority you can't beat the french. " France is definetly in my top 4! I hadnt considered Japan, interesting. I guess North Korea doesn't count lol! | |||
"Wether you feel it's good or bad is a matter of opinion. However its a very natural human response. Hell we've telling our kids for generations to watch out for strangers despite the FACT most of them are murdered and assaulted by people they know! Humans are just slightly more evolved apes,I really fail to grasp why we get so shocked by their behaviour at times
Don't agree it's human nature. If someone feel over and needs help, we'll help them. That is human nature. Society is making us less human. Abstracting our nature with technology, forms or processes is removing us from what makes us human. ". How many chimps in a family?, roughly they group around 50 or so, sometimes up to a hundred. Your right inside that group they look after each other, outside that group, nada. Humans and our ancestors are caring by nature inside the pack for a reason, we found that looking after each other was the best way to advance the family group.. outside of it were fiercely competitive, do you honestly think anybody in Columbia gives a shit what somebody in Greece is going through or vice versa?. I'd actually say it's only the advancement of technology thats stopped us killing each other a long time ago, while we have food,lights, water, energy and money were at least slightly contented but take that away and you'll soon see how primitive we still are and there certainly won't be helping up people thats for sure | |||
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"Xenophobia a bad thing? " It's not unnatural to be weary or suspicious of a completely foreign culture, a part of the reptilian brain is devoted to invoking such feelings in people.. it originally served as a mechanism of survival against unknown and potentially threatening situations. Although it can be overruled with higher brain functions in the modern human it's largely an involuntary response and completely natural to a point. Only recently has it became stigmatized and frowned upon to even admit experiencing such feelings. | |||
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"I think our home grown terrorists have that covered Never let facts interupt a political debate."
good point.
With a home grown terrorist,
For every occasion.
It would be complete madness,
Not to take every precaution,
Too ensure
We're not also importing them.
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"Xenophobia a bad thing? " At one time xenophobia was An irrational prejudice against anything, and everything foreign. Just plain wrong . Now it seems, Even the merest hint of patriotism, Or national pride, Is considered xenophobic, By the pc brigade. That just can't be right. | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? At one time xenophobia was An irrational prejudice against anything, and everything foreign. Just plain wrong . Now it seems, Even the merest hint of patriotism, Or national pride, Is considered xenophobic, By the pc brigade. That just can't be right. "Really? The Olympics event in London showed national pride. That was no mere hint. It was patriotism on full blast! | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? " the pc brigade will say yes personally I have a dislike for Europe and the EU, the times I have travelled to many countries throughout the EU I have had a dislike to the countries, the cities and the people, France in particular. That is my choice, my decision and I simply do not travel there anymore, I choose to travel to what I consider better locations through out the World, where there are in my view better surroundings, better people and a feeling of belonging So for example, I have worked for a large French company, through my work, and my travel within that company, I have found I have a dislike for the French, the way they work, the way their companies are run, and through time have parted from that detested job, as well as getting as far away from the Country and the people. Its my choice, my decision, if due to that you consider me xenophobic then so be it, there is no fear of them, simply a pure dislike and nothing would make me return to the shitholes in France and other locations I have seen, life is too short, | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? the pc brigade will say yes personally I have a dislike for Europe and the EU, the times I have travelled to many countries throughout the EU I have had a dislike to the countries, the cities and the people, France in particular. That is my choice, my decision and I simply do not travel there anymore, I choose to travel to what I consider better locations through out the World, where there are in my view better surroundings, better people and a feeling of belonging So for example, I have worked for a large French company, through my work, and my travel within that company, I have found I have a dislike for the French, the way they work, the way their companies are run, and through time have parted from that detested job, as well as getting as far away from the Country and the people. Its my choice, my decision, if due to that you consider me xenophobic then so be it, there is no fear of them, simply a pure dislike and nothing would make me return to the shitholes in France and other locations I have seen, life is too short, " There might be a job for you in the Foreign Office | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? the pc brigade will say yes personally I have a dislike for Europe and the EU, the times I have travelled to many countries throughout the EU I have had a dislike to the countries, the cities and the people, France in particular. That is my choice, my decision and I simply do not travel there anymore, I choose to travel to what I consider better locations through out the World, where there are in my view better surroundings, better people and a feeling of belonging So for example, I have worked for a large French company, through my work, and my travel within that company, I have found I have a dislike for the French, the way they work, the way their companies are run, and through time have parted from that detested job, as well as getting as far away from the Country and the people. Its my choice, my decision, if due to that you consider me xenophobic then so be it, there is no fear of them, simply a pure dislike and nothing would make me return to the shitholes in France and other locations I have seen, life is too short, " That's not an irrational phobia though. French business culture is less efficient than British, American or Japanese, that's just an objective measureable fact. I don't hate or even dislike individual french people, but i do dislike the way their businesses are run. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Have you not noticed the SNP, and then some of the welsh want independance too,and thats just the UK parts of spain want their own rule then there is the ukraine etc etc, its going the other way not to one. As for the romans they may have ruled a large proportion of the world but they did it by force not concensus now if you say we might end up being controlled by one super power through force then perhaps but all empires fall in the end."I have noticed but I think the underlying long term trend is unchanged. And I certainly hope it's not through force. I agree that all empires fail and any successful global government or grouping will have to be built by consensus. | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Have you not noticed the SNP, and then some of the welsh want independance too,and thats just the UK parts of spain want their own rule then there is the ukraine etc etc, its going the other way not to one. As for the romans they may have ruled a large proportion of the world but they did it by force not concensus now if you say we might end up being controlled by one super power through force then perhaps but all empires fall in the end.
I have noticed but I think the underlying long term trend is unchanged.
And I certainly hope it's not through force. I agree that all empires fail and any successful global government or grouping will have to be built by consensus.
"Yep one day i can see the Arabs and the Jews saying "hang on a minute, these books are a load of old shit! Let's be Catholics!".....  | |||
"I think history teaches us comming togeather was a natural progression towards civilization.From tribes to kingdoms to countries and super states and trading blocks and unions.One day there will be a president of earth and we will be one people under one flag and one nation.
Not in a million years
You know it was a little more than a thousand years ago that England was formed from smaller independent kingdoms?
I give it another 1,000 tops.
Have you not noticed the SNP, and then some of the welsh want independance too,and thats just the UK parts of spain want their own rule then there is the ukraine etc etc, its going the other way not to one. As for the romans they may have ruled a large proportion of the world but they did it by force not concensus now if you say we might end up being controlled by one super power through force then perhaps but all empires fall in the end.
I have noticed but I think the underlying long term trend is unchanged.
And I certainly hope it's not through force. I agree that all empires fail and any successful global government or grouping will have to be built by consensus.
Yep one day i can see the Arabs and the Jews saying "hang on a minute, these books are a load of old shit! Let's be Catholics!"..... "i don't think they could cope with that level of guilt .... maybe they should start off with being anglicans and work their way up through methodism etc before they go for broke | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? the pc brigade will say yes personally I have a dislike for Europe and the EU, the times I have travelled to many countries throughout the EU I have had a dislike to the countries, the cities and the people, France in particular. That is my choice, my decision and I simply do not travel there anymore, I choose to travel to what I consider better locations through out the World, where there are in my view better surroundings, better people and a feeling of belonging So for example, I have worked for a large French company, through my work, and my travel within that company, I have found I have a dislike for the French, the way they work, the way their companies are run, and through time have parted from that detested job, as well as getting as far away from the Country and the people. Its my choice, my decision, if due to that you consider me xenophobic then so be it, there is no fear of them, simply a pure dislike and nothing would make me return to the shitholes in France and other locations I have seen, life is too short, That's not an irrational phobia though. French business culture is less efficient than British, American or Japanese, that's just an objective measureable fact. I don't hate or even dislike individual french people, but i do dislike the way their businesses are run. " I agree with what you have said regarding the way the run business but the ones I have dealt with direct also come across as very arrogant, impolite and down right rude. | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? " Of course not. The irrational hatred of foreigners is always good news.....  | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? Of course not. The irrational hatred of foreigners is always good news..... "It's not always a bad strategy. | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? Of course not. The irrational hatred of foreigners is always good news.....
It's not always a bad strategy. ". I think somebody should have pointed that out to the Palestinians! | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? Of course not. The irrational hatred of foreigners is always good news.....
It's not always a bad strategy. .
I think somebody should have pointed that out to the Palestinians! "It's done the Sentinelese well is all I'm saying | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? Of course not. The irrational hatred of foreigners is always good news.....
It's not always a bad strategy. .
I think somebody should have pointed that out to the Palestinians!
It's done the Sentinelese well is all I'm saying ". What strangeness must they observe from flotsam and jetsam .
Although this from wiki needs to be read which is about the last known contact in the 1960s by a bunch of Indian researchers.
Quite a few discarded their weapons and gestured to us to throw the fish. The women came out of the shade to watch our antics. ... A few men came and picked up the fish. They appeared to be gratified, but there did not seem to be much softening to their hostile attitude. ... They all began shouting some incomprehensible words. We shouted back and gestured to indicate that we wanted to be friends. The tension did not ease. At this moment, a strange thing happened—a woman paired off with a warrior and sat on the sand in a passionate embrace. This act was being repeated by other women, each claiming a warrior for herself, a sort of community mating, as it were. Thus did the militant group diminish. This continued for quite some time and when the tempo of this frenzied dance of desire abated, the couples retired into the shade of the jungle. However, some warriors were still on guard. We got close to the shore and threw some more fish which were immediately retrieved by a few youngsters. It was well past noon and we headed back to the ship. ...
Ahhh the old trick of shagging the aggression out of yer | |||
"Xenophobia a bad thing? Of course not. The irrational hatred of foreigners is always good news.....
It's not always a bad strategy. .
I think somebody should have pointed that out to the Palestinians!
It's done the Sentinelese well is all I'm saying .
What strangeness must they observe from flotsam and jetsam .
Although this from wiki needs to be read which is about the last known contact in the 1960s by a bunch of Indian researchers.
Quite a few discarded their weapons and gestured to us to throw the fish. The women came out of the shade to watch our antics. ... A few men came and picked up the fish. They appeared to be gratified, but there did not seem to be much softening to their hostile attitude. ... They all began shouting some incomprehensible words. We shouted back and gestured to indicate that we wanted to be friends. The tension did not ease. At this moment, a strange thing happened—a woman paired off with a warrior and sat on the sand in a passionate embrace. This act was being repeated by other women, each claiming a warrior for herself, a sort of community mating, as it were. Thus did the militant group diminish. This continued for quite some time and when the tempo of this frenzied dance of desire abated, the couples retired into the shade of the jungle. However, some warriors were still on guard. We got close to the shore and threw some more fish which were immediately retrieved by a few youngsters. It was well past noon and we headed back to the ship. ...
Ahhh the old trick of shagging the aggression out of yer "Well nothing gets a woman horny like a man with fish. Anyway there's genius to their aggression. When foreigners first contact an isolated tribe, if the tribe embraces them then 30-60% of said tribe will be dead within 2 years due to diseases they have no immunity to. The Sentinelese have a blanket "fuck off" policy which is why this never happened to them. | |||
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