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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Seems like the tories will be getting in again with a larger majority..
So the same old same old?
Low wage insecure work for working classes, blaming the unemployed and disabled and hitting them hard while giving tax breaks for the super rich who open offshore tax avoidance schemes like david camerons dad. The tories call it 'bettering themselves' but in what way? By cheating thy neighbour , shitting on thy neighbour, ripping off thy neighbour?.. Why not just call it as it is.. The party of the greedy grabbing pie scoffing b***ards party. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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To give you my experiences of the tories, i was a nurse in a&e, after working for a profitable company that was bought out by pie scoffing, tory asset stripping bastards.. Put on the dole and treated like a scrounger. |
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It's actually the party that wants to move the economy forward as opposed to towards some idealised version of the soviet union.
What they have failed to do is transition in a way, and at a speed, that accounts for people whose skills are surplus to the requirements of a modern, high-wage, high-productivity economy.
But they is as much new labour as the tories. Short term outlooks are a feature of democracy and these are long-term problems. So be angry at the tories if it helps you but understand that there isn't a politician in any of the major parties with anything that even resembles a plan to deal with this problem. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's actually the party that wants to move the economy forward as opposed to towards some idealised version of the soviet union.
What they have failed to do is transition in a way, and at a speed, that accounts for people whose skills are surplus to the requirements of a modern, high-wage, high-productivity economy.
But they is as much new labour as the tories. Short term outlooks are a feature of democracy and these are long-term problems. So be angry at the tories if it helps you but understand that there isn't a politician in any of the major parties with anything that even resembles a plan to deal with this problem."
This why i am not a fan of democracy.  |
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"It's actually the party that wants to move the economy forward as opposed to towards some idealised version of the soviet union.
What they have failed to do is transition in a way, and at a speed, that accounts for people whose skills are surplus to the requirements of a modern, high-wage, high-productivity economy.
But they is as much new labour as the tories. Short term outlooks are a feature of democracy and these are long-term problems. So be angry at the tories if it helps you but understand that there isn't a politician in any of the major parties with anything that even resembles a plan to deal with this problem. This why i am not a fan of democracy. "
There is no perfect system of government. But the current elections consist of soundbites, wooly language and uncosted promises. As long as people demand simple, 30-second answers to complex problems then they will be disappointed by whatever form of government they have. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's actually the party that wants to move the economy forward as opposed to towards some idealised version of the soviet union.
What they have failed to do is transition in a way, and at a speed, that accounts for people whose skills are surplus to the requirements of a modern, high-wage, high-productivity economy.
But they is as much new labour as the tories. Short term outlooks are a feature of democracy and these are long-term problems. So be angry at the tories if it helps you but understand that there isn't a politician in any of the major parties with anything that even resembles a plan to deal with this problem. This why i am not a fan of democracy.
There is no perfect system of government. But the current elections consist of soundbites, wooly language and uncosted promises. As long as people demand simple, 30-second answers to complex problems then they will be disappointed by whatever form of government they have. "
The issue i have is there is no long term planning or goals .No consensus amongst parties to carry through big ideas that will take decade's to be implemented regardless of who wins. They all rip up policy every decade and start again.Vanity and hubris is all they offer.Democracy no longer delivers. |
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Let's be fair there all a bunch of tossers torries the top of the pile
Look at the state of our country now
Nhs near on redundant
Police are non existent on our streets now crime is on the up no police
The elderly care homes are dissapeering not unless you can afford over 1000 pounds a week
I could go on forever
I just wish we could kick may and her cronies out but there's no one else what a sad state of affairs we're in |
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"Let's be fair there all a bunch of tossers torries the top of the pile
Look at the state of our country now
Nhs near on redundant
Police are non existent on our streets now crime is on the up no police
The elderly care homes are dissapeering not unless you can afford over 1000 pounds a week
I could go on forever
I just wish we could kick may and her cronies out but there's no one else what a sad state of affairs we're in "
None of those problems are specific to the Tories though.
The NHS is a clusterfuck because it's an unsustainable business model. Yes Labour could probably throw money at it and make it a bit better but there will never be enough money for it.
The correlation between police numbers and crime is minimal. The truth is that a very small number of people commit the majority of crime, those people have a lot of common characteristics. Certain conditions enable more or less of those sorts of people to exist and that drives the crime rate.
Caring for old people is just expensive. Other countries have the same problem. |
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"Let's be fair there all a bunch of tossers torries the top of the pile
Look at the state of our country now
Nhs near on redundant
Police are non existent on our streets now crime is on the up no police
The elderly care homes are dissapeering not unless you can afford over 1000 pounds a week
I could go on forever
I just wish we could kick may and her cronies out but there's no one else what a sad state of affairs we're in
None of those problems are specific to the Tories though.
The NHS is a clusterfuck because it's an unsustainable business model. Yes Labour could probably throw money at it and make it a bit better but there will never be enough money for it.
The correlation between police numbers and crime is minimal. The truth is that a very small number of people commit the majority of crime, those people have a lot of common characteristics. Certain conditions enable more or less of those sorts of people to exist and that drives the crime rate.
Caring for old people is just expensive. Other countries have the same problem."
Sorry mate your living in the past we are doomed under this government and I rekon for bloody years god helped us |
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"Let's be fair there all a bunch of tossers torries the top of the pile
Look at the state of our country now
Nhs near on redundant
Police are non existent on our streets now crime is on the up no police
The elderly care homes are dissapeering not unless you can afford over 1000 pounds a week
I could go on forever
I just wish we could kick may and her cronies out but there's no one else what a sad state of affairs we're in
None of those problems are specific to the Tories though.
The NHS is a clusterfuck because it's an unsustainable business model. Yes Labour could probably throw money at it and make it a bit better but there will never be enough money for it.
The correlation between police numbers and crime is minimal. The truth is that a very small number of people commit the majority of crime, those people have a lot of common characteristics. Certain conditions enable more or less of those sorts of people to exist and that drives the crime rate.
Caring for old people is just expensive. Other countries have the same problem.
Sorry mate your living in the past we are doomed under this government and I rekon for bloody years god helped us"
What part of what i said is evidence of living in the past? |
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"Let's be fair there all a bunch of tossers torries the top of the pile
Look at the state of our country now
Nhs near on redundant
Police are non existent on our streets now crime is on the up no police
The elderly care homes are dissapeering not unless you can afford over 1000 pounds a week
I could go on forever
I just wish we could kick may and her cronies out but there's no one else what a sad state of affairs we're in
None of those problems are specific to the Tories though.
The NHS is a clusterfuck because it's an unsustainable business model. Yes Labour could probably throw money at it and make it a bit better but there will never be enough money for it.
The correlation between police numbers and crime is minimal. The truth is that a very small number of people commit the majority of crime, those people have a lot of common characteristics. Certain conditions enable more or less of those sorts of people to exist and that drives the crime rate.
Caring for old people is just expensive. Other countries have the same problem.
Sorry mate your living in the past we are doomed under this government and I rekon for bloody years god helped us
What part of what i said is evidence of living in the past? "
A bit like jethro Tull but I doubt weather you have heard of them |
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"Let's be fair there all a bunch of tossers torries the top of the pile
Look at the state of our country now
Nhs near on redundant
Police are non existent on our streets now crime is on the up no police
The elderly care homes are dissapeering not unless you can afford over 1000 pounds a week
I could go on forever
I just wish we could kick may and her cronies out but there's no one else what a sad state of affairs we're in
None of those problems are specific to the Tories though.
The NHS is a clusterfuck because it's an unsustainable business model. Yes Labour could probably throw money at it and make it a bit better but there will never be enough money for it.
The correlation between police numbers and crime is minimal. The truth is that a very small number of people commit the majority of crime, those people have a lot of common characteristics. Certain conditions enable more or less of those sorts of people to exist and that drives the crime rate.
Caring for old people is just expensive. Other countries have the same problem.
Sorry mate your living in the past we are doomed under this government and I rekon for bloody years god helped us
What part of what i said is evidence of living in the past?
A bit like jethro Tull but I doubt weather you have heard of them "
No but if we can talk logic and facts then it's easier to communicate that way |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"It's actually the party that wants to move the economy forward as opposed to towards some idealised version of the soviet union.
What they have failed to do is transition in a way, and at a speed, that accounts for people whose skills are surplus to the requirements of a modern, high-wage, high-productivity economy.
But they is as much new labour as the tories. Short term outlooks are a feature of democracy and these are long-term problems. So be angry at the tories if it helps you but understand that there isn't a politician in any of the major parties with anything that even resembles a plan to deal with this problem. This why i am not a fan of democracy.
There is no perfect system of government. But the current elections consist of soundbites, wooly language and uncosted promises. As long as people demand simple, 30-second answers to complex problems then they will be disappointed by whatever form of government they have. The issue i have is there is no long term planning or goals .No consensus amongst parties to carry through big ideas that will take decade's to be implemented regardless of who wins. They all rip up policy every decade and start again.Vanity and hubris is all they offer.Democracy no longer delivers."
Glorious 5-year plan?  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"It's actually the party that wants to move the economy forward as opposed to towards some idealised version of the soviet union.
What they have failed to do is transition in a way, and at a speed, that accounts for people whose skills are surplus to the requirements of a modern, high-wage, high-productivity economy.
But they is as much new labour as the tories. Short term outlooks are a feature of democracy and these are long-term problems. So be angry at the tories if it helps you but understand that there isn't a politician in any of the major parties with anything that even resembles a plan to deal with this problem. This why i am not a fan of democracy. "
So what system ARE yo a fan of? |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
upton wirral |
"Seems like the tories will be getting in again with a larger majority..
So the same old same old?
Low wage insecure work for working classes, blaming the unemployed and disabled and hitting them hard while giving tax breaks for the super rich who open offshore tax avoidance schemes like david camerons dad. The tories call it 'bettering themselves' but in what way? By cheating thy neighbour , shitting on thy neighbour, ripping off thy neighbour?.. Why not just call it as it is.. The party of the greedy grabbing pie scoffing b***ards party."
Well if they win it proves that the majority do not share your views |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Well if they win it proves that the majority do not share your views"
This is a perfect example of what a poster above said - a statement that attempts to bring politics down to the simplest level that can be taken on board in a few seconds explanation. When you actually dig into what is going on, there is a little more to it.
The conservatives are in a position of great strength right now because they have their existing support base plus a large number of former Labour supporters who can't see anything past Brexit and their entire thought process revolves around the thought that Brexit will improve their lives more so than any one political party.
This kind of single minded belief in a single event becoming life changing in a positive way is the type of simple politics promoted by UKIP and Trump and the message resonates more than any left/right/centrist political slant. The problem with this type of politics is that when Utopia fails to arrive, people become even more disillusioned. |
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"Well if they win it proves that the majority do not share your views
This is a perfect example of what a poster above said - a statement that attempts to bring politics down to the simplest level that can be taken on board in a few seconds explanation. When you actually dig into what is going on, there is a little more to it.
The conservatives are in a position of great strength right now because they have their existing support base plus a large number of former Labour supporters who can't see anything past Brexit and their entire thought process revolves around the thought that Brexit will improve their lives more so than any one political party.
This kind of single minded belief in a single event becoming life changing in a positive way is the type of simple politics promoted by UKIP and Trump and the message resonates more than any left/right/centrist political slant. The problem with this type of politics is that when Utopia fails to arrive, people become even more disillusioned."
I would level the same criticism at anyone who attempts to boil 3 terms of Tony Blair into the Iraq war and there are a fair few on them on here. |
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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago
near ipswich |
"Let's be fair there all a bunch of tossers torries the top of the pile
Look at the state of our country now
Nhs near on redundant
Police are non existent on our streets now crime is on the up no police
The elderly care homes are dissapeering not unless you can afford over 1000 pounds a week
I could go on forever
I just wish we could kick may and her cronies out but there's no one else what a sad state of affairs we're in "
who put us in this sad state of affairs in the first place it wasnt the tories. |
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"Seems like the tories will be getting in again with a larger majority..
So the same old same old?
Low wage insecure work for working classes, blaming the unemployed and disabled and hitting them hard while giving tax breaks for the super rich who open offshore tax avoidance schemes like david camerons dad. The tories call it 'bettering themselves' but in what way? By cheating thy neighbour , shitting on thy neighbour, ripping off thy neighbour?.. Why not just call it as it is.. The party of the greedy grabbing pie scoffing b***ards party."
What utter bollocks.... |
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"It's actually the party that wants to move the economy forward as opposed to towards some idealised version of the soviet union.
What they have failed to do is transition in a way, and at a speed, that accounts for people whose skills are surplus to the requirements of a modern, high-wage, high-productivity economy.
But they is as much new labour as the tories. Short term outlooks are a feature of democracy and these are long-term problems. So be angry at the tories if it helps you but understand that there isn't a politician in any of the major parties with anything that even resembles a plan to deal with this problem. This why i am not a fan of democracy.
So what system ARE yo a fan of?"
Personally i prefer democracy without the right to vote extended to all or equally. Or to put it another way, what Socrates and the enlightment thinkers argued for. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Seems like the tories will be getting in again with a larger majority..
So the same old same old?
Low wage insecure work for working classes, blaming the unemployed and disabled and hitting them hard while giving tax breaks for the super rich who open offshore tax avoidance schemes like david camerons dad. The tories call it 'bettering themselves' but in what way? By cheating thy neighbour , shitting on thy neighbour, ripping off thy neighbour?.. Why not just call it as it is.. The party of the greedy grabbing pie scoffing b***ards party.
What utter bollocks...."
A typical retort from your limited intellect |
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"Well if they win it proves that the majority do not share your views
This is a perfect example of what a poster above said - a statement that attempts to bring politics down to the simplest level that can be taken on board in a few seconds explanation. When you actually dig into what is going on, there is a little more to it.
The conservatives are in a position of great strength right now because they have their existing support base plus a large number of former Labour supporters who can't see anything past Brexit and their entire thought process revolves around the thought that Brexit will improve their lives more so than any one political party.
This kind of single minded belief in a single event becoming life changing in a positive way is the type of simple politics promoted by UKIP and Trump and the message resonates more than any left/right/centrist political slant. The problem with this type of politics is that when Utopia fails to arrive, people become even more disillusioned.
I would level the same criticism at anyone who attempts to boil 3 terms of Tony Blair into the Iraq war and there are a fair few on them on here."
All of the above..
Some of the people who now speak of prison for war crimes for him are the ones who put him in power when they voted Labour, and will have been fully supportive of the military action as the Tory party were at the outset of that conflict..
When it turned into a shambles for the region with global terrorism to follow it wasn't their cause any more..
Fickle doesn't really come into it..
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"Seems like the tories will be getting in again with a larger majority..
So the same old same old?
Low wage insecure work for working classes, blaming the unemployed and disabled and hitting them hard while giving tax breaks for the super rich who open offshore tax avoidance schemes like david camerons dad. The tories call it 'bettering themselves' but in what way? By cheating thy neighbour , shitting on thy neighbour, ripping off thy neighbour?.. Why not just call it as it is.. The party of the greedy grabbing pie scoffing b***ards party.
What utter bollocks....
A typical retort from your limited intellect "
From the person who wrote "More trolling bollocks!" Last night |
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