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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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Prime Minister May must think that all of her Cristmasses have come at once. We find out today that she is manipulating the Press to avoid difficult questions being filmed (Cornwall Today) and she has stated in the midst of some fairly embarrassing revelations that she is going to be a "bloody difficult woman." This in response to the Times suggesting the Brexit bill could be as much as €100 billion and the Juncker leaks showing up the complete lack of understanding of the issues involved by the UK Brexit team.
If there was any semblance of opposition in this country she would be strung out to dry. |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
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She was called "a bloody difficult woman' by someone during the Conservative leadership campaign.
I saw that the BBC showed footage of her being strongly questioned by a woman during a walkabout in Mevagissey yesterday. The BBC's Laura Kuensberg then gave her a grilling in Plymouth, which was broadcast on the 6pm news. Unfortunately, most of this was overshadowed by the Diane Abbot rumpus.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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It was said that she did not understand the way brussels worked but I dissagree.
She knows full well how it works, it expects the UK to accept what it's offered and thats that.
Well I think she will end up waliking away from the table because it's going to do tits up as soon as they start spouting the four priciple rules and thats what people voted against |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
I think that we need "a bloody difficult woman" at the helm.
I understand that France and Poland are expecting us to pay for their farming subsidies after we have left!
The more I see and the more I read, I'm thinking that the EU is doing all it can NOT to make us leave. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Prime Minister May must think that all of her Cristmasses have come at once. We find out today that she is manipulating the Press to avoid difficult questions being filmed (Cornwall Today) and she has stated in the midst of some fairly embarrassing revelations that she is going to be a "bloody difficult woman." This in response to the Times suggesting the Brexit bill could be as much as €100 billion and the Juncker leaks showing up the complete lack of understanding of the issues involved by the UK Brexit team.
If there was any semblance of opposition in this country she would be strung out to dry. "
She's most likely thinking if she's doing so well then why risk it by getting embroiled in discussions on tv/radio. 'don't jump your fences till you hsve to' |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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She is doing a great job, the more she annoys the silly little men running the EU the more hysterical they will get and the more they will be shown up for what they are and the more support she will get from individual countries and the people of this country. As for £100 billion? , has Dianne Abbott started working for The Times? |
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"She is doing a great job, the more she annoys the silly little men running the EU the more hysterical they will get and the more they will be shown up for what they are and the more support she will get from individual countries and the people of this country. As for £100 billion? , has Dianne Abbott started working for The Times?"
And if your wrong how do you see things working out for us? |
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"She is doing a great job, the more she annoys the silly little men running the EU the more hysterical they will get and the more they will be shown up for what they are and the more support she will get from individual countries and the people of this country. As for £100 billion? , has Dianne Abbott started working for The Times?
And if your wrong how do you see things working out for us?"
Wrong in which way? EU countries are already starting to argue amongst themselves and TM will have so much support at this election that it will mean the end of the Labour party and hopefully lead to the creation of a more modern viable opposition |
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"Wrong in which way? EU countries are already starting to argue amongst themselves and TM will have so much support at this election that it will mean the end of the Labour party and hopefully lead to the creation of a more modern viable opposition"
Are they?
Seems to me that since the referendum was first announced that the press (which is owned by 6 billionaires) and brexit camp have been singing the same song continually (sounds a bit like 'Rule Britannia' on the last night of the proms), while the EU has been saying the same thing since day one. The two are in total conflict, but only one can be correct. You keep saying it is the UK position is right, I understand this.
But if you are wrong how do you see YOUR future? Remember you support a government that is transferring wealth from poor to rich, how long do you think it will be before you are the one being impoverished to enrich a billionaire or multi-billion corporation?
Or are you a member of one of the 100 families who have seen their wealth double in the last 7 years while 70% of the country have seen their wealth shrink by about 10%? |
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"She is doing a great job, the more she annoys the silly little men running the EU the more hysterical they will get and the more they will be shown up for what they are and the more support she will get from individual countries and the people of this country. As for £100 billion? , has Dianne Abbott started working for The Times?
And if your wrong how do you see things working out for us?
Wrong in which way? EU countries are already starting to argue amongst themselves and TM will have so much support at this election that it will mean the end of the Labour party and hopefully lead to the creation of a more modern viable opposition"
No they're not. Their position has been coordinated and consistent. Unlike ours.
Bottom line is we're screwed in this negotiation but you'll keep believing it's all well until the talks collapse.
At which point it will undoubtedly be the fault of anyone and everyone else for undermining things. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Wrong in which way? EU countries are already starting to argue amongst themselves and TM will have so much support at this election that it will mean the end of the Labour party and hopefully lead to the creation of a more modern viable opposition
Are they?
Seems to me that since the referendum was first announced that the press (which is owned by 6 billionaires) and brexit camp have been singing the same song continually (sounds a bit like 'Rule Britannia' on the last night of the proms), while the EU has been saying the same thing since day one. The two are in total conflict, but only one can be correct. You keep saying it is the UK position is right, I understand this.
But if you are wrong how do you see YOUR future? Remember you support a government that is transferring wealth from poor to rich, how long do you think it will be before you are the one being impoverished to enrich a billionaire or multi-billion corporation?
Or are you a member of one of the 100 families who have seen their wealth double in the last 7 years while 70% of the country have seen their wealth shrink by about 10%?"
Yes they are. They are already arguing over who makes up the 15% EU budget shortfall once the UK leaves, that's why they are coming out with ridiculous amounts for a 'divorce' bill to buy themselves more time.
Transferring wealth from poor to rich? You are living in the past and fighting old battles.
I see my future and that of my son improve once we are out of the EU, Labour is finished and a credible opposition is born.
I'm one of the 70% but that is thanks to the banking crisis, Labours handling of the economy and the Tories need to repair it, Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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But if you are wrong how do you see YOUR future? Remember you support a government that is transferring wealth from poor to rich, how long do you think it will be before you are the one being impoverished to enrich a billionaire or multi-billion corporation?
Or are you a member of one of the 100 families who have seen their wealth double in the last 7 years while 70% of the country have seen their wealth shrink by about 10%?
Yes they are. They are already arguing over who makes up the 15% EU budget shortfall once the UK leaves, that's why they are coming out with ridiculous amounts for a 'divorce' bill to buy themselves more time.
Transferring wealth from poor to rich? You are living in the past and fighting old battles.
I see my future and that of my son improve once we are out of the EU, Labour is finished and a credible opposition is born.
I'm one of the 70% but that is thanks to the banking crisis, Labours handling of the economy and the Tories need to repair it, Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union"
Out of interest, how exactly has "Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union" resulted in your wealth shrinking by about 10%? In what was has immigration reduced your wealth exactly? In what way has the economic union failed resulting in your wealth dropping 10%?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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But if you are wrong how do you see YOUR future? Remember you support a government that is transferring wealth from poor to rich, how long do you think it will be before you are the one being impoverished to enrich a billionaire or multi-billion corporation?
Or are you a member of one of the 100 families who have seen their wealth double in the last 7 years while 70% of the country have seen their wealth shrink by about 10%?
Yes they are. They are already arguing over who makes up the 15% EU budget shortfall once the UK leaves, that's why they are coming out with ridiculous amounts for a 'divorce' bill to buy themselves more time.
Transferring wealth from poor to rich? You are living in the past and fighting old battles.
I see my future and that of my son improve once we are out of the EU, Labour is finished and a credible opposition is born.
I'm one of the 70% but that is thanks to the banking crisis, Labours handling of the economy and the Tories need to repair it, Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union
Out of interest, how exactly has "Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union" resulted in your wealth shrinking by about 10%? In what was has immigration reduced your wealth exactly? In what way has the economic union failed resulting in your wealth dropping 10%?
-att"
Why did you omit the banking crisis and Labours policies in that 10%?
Immigration does suppress wages particularly for the lower paid as well you know.
In what way has the economic union failed?? Jeez man open your eyes! What are the unemployment rates across Europe? Do you really think the EU is working? For who? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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But if you are wrong how do you see YOUR future? Remember you support a government that is transferring wealth from poor to rich, how long do you think it will be before you are the one being impoverished to enrich a billionaire or multi-billion corporation?
Or are you a member of one of the 100 families who have seen their wealth double in the last 7 years while 70% of the country have seen their wealth shrink by about 10%?
Yes they are. They are already arguing over who makes up the 15% EU budget shortfall once the UK leaves, that's why they are coming out with ridiculous amounts for a 'divorce' bill to buy themselves more time.
Transferring wealth from poor to rich? You are living in the past and fighting old battles.
I see my future and that of my son improve once we are out of the EU, Labour is finished and a credible opposition is born.
I'm one of the 70% but that is thanks to the banking crisis, Labours handling of the economy and the Tories need to repair it, Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union
Out of interest, how exactly has "Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union" resulted in your wealth shrinking by about 10%? In what was has immigration reduced your wealth exactly? In what way has the economic union failed resulting in your wealth dropping 10%?
-att
Why did you omit the banking crisis and Labours policies in that 10%?
Immigration does suppress wages particularly for the lower paid as well you know.
In what way has the economic union failed?? Jeez man open your eyes! What are the unemployment rates across Europe? Do you really think the EU is working? For who?"
I omitted them as I can see why you might have an argument there. I disagree with you, but I would say that that is something more open to debate. The two points I mentioned of yours because I am curious as to why you think they have dropped your wealth.
Immigration has a pretty minimal affect on wage suppression at the lowest end. But increases wages at the upper end. In fact, I'm surprised the Tory's are so against it. Then again I don't think they need any help from outside to redistribute wealth upwards. They are doing a fine job of it.
And nice dodge on the 2nd part. Again, I'll ask. In what way has the economic union failed that has reduced your wealth?
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
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But if you are wrong how do you see YOUR future? Remember you support a government that is transferring wealth from poor to rich, how long do you think it will be before you are the one being impoverished to enrich a billionaire or multi-billion corporation?
Or are you a member of one of the 100 families who have seen their wealth double in the last 7 years while 70% of the country have seen their wealth shrink by about 10%?
Yes they are. They are already arguing over who makes up the 15% EU budget shortfall once the UK leaves, that's why they are coming out with ridiculous amounts for a 'divorce' bill to buy themselves more time.
Transferring wealth from poor to rich? You are living in the past and fighting old battles.
I see my future and that of my son improve once we are out of the EU, Labour is finished and a credible opposition is born.
I'm one of the 70% but that is thanks to the banking crisis, Labours handling of the economy and the Tories need to repair it, Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union
Out of interest, how exactly has "Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union" resulted in your wealth shrinking by about 10%? In what was has immigration reduced your wealth exactly? In what way has the economic union failed resulting in your wealth dropping 10%?
-att
Why did you omit the banking crisis and Labours policies in that 10%?
Immigration does suppress wages particularly for the lower paid as well you know.
In what way has the economic union failed?? Jeez man open your eyes! What are the unemployment rates across Europe? Do you really think the EU is working? For who?
I omitted them as I can see why you might have an argument there. I disagree with you, but I would say that that is something more open to debate. The two points I mentioned of yours because I am curious as to why you think they have dropped your wealth.
Immigration has a pretty minimal affect on wage suppression at the lowest end. But increases wages at the upper end. In fact, I'm surprised the Tory's are so against it. Then again I don't think they need any help from outside to redistribute wealth upwards. They are doing a fine job of it.
And nice dodge on the 2nd part. Again, I'll ask. In what way has the economic union failed that has reduced your wealth?
-Matt"
I didn't dodge it, I was trying to point out that the failed economic union has reduced most peoples wealth, thanks to protectionism, inability to trade more easily with people outside the bloc and enforced austerity. Do you think that high unemployment and the 'need' for austerity measures is not the fault of the EU and doesn't reduce wealth? |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Wrong in which way? EU countries are already starting to argue amongst themselves and TM will have so much support at this election that it will mean the end of the Labour party and hopefully lead to the creation of a more modern viable opposition"
actually this is not true....
at the EU27 summit over the weekend.... it look the 27 all of 5 minutes to agree a starting point for any negoiations.... which i think is a record for them agreeing on anything.... i don't they have agree that quickly on "tea or coffee".....
they are going to try and make the UK pay for any spending commitments they have LEGALLY made by law for the next 7 years..... and i don't blame them!!!
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It's a mess and will be for years to come if your happy with that thenall get on with it
We don't no neither does may
And all the cronies with her
I'm not say the other party's are any better
There all a bunch of liers problem is people believe why they hear and read
We see in about 10 years what the mess has achieved |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Wrong in which way? EU countries are already starting to argue amongst themselves and TM will have so much support at this election that it will mean the end of the Labour party and hopefully lead to the creation of a more modern viable opposition
actually this is not true....
at the EU27 summit over the weekend.... it look the 27 all of 5 minutes to agree a starting point for any negoiations.... which i think is a record for them agreeing on anything.... i don't they have agree that quickly on "tea or coffee".....
they are going to try and make the UK pay for any spending commitments they have LEGALLY made by law for the next 7 years..... and i don't blame them!!!
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So how come LEGALLY they don't have to pay anything? And what percentage of EU assets and investments will we get in return? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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But if you are wrong how do you see YOUR future? Remember you support a government that is transferring wealth from poor to rich, how long do you think it will be before you are the one being impoverished to enrich a billionaire or multi-billion corporation?
Or are you a member of one of the 100 families who have seen their wealth double in the last 7 years while 70% of the country have seen their wealth shrink by about 10%?
Yes they are. They are already arguing over who makes up the 15% EU budget shortfall once the UK leaves, that's why they are coming out with ridiculous amounts for a 'divorce' bill to buy themselves more time.
Transferring wealth from poor to rich? You are living in the past and fighting old battles.
I see my future and that of my son improve once we are out of the EU, Labour is finished and a credible opposition is born.
I'm one of the 70% but that is thanks to the banking crisis, Labours handling of the economy and the Tories need to repair it, Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union
Out of interest, how exactly has "Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union" resulted in your wealth shrinking by about 10%? In what was has immigration reduced your wealth exactly? In what way has the economic union failed resulting in your wealth dropping 10%?
-att
Why did you omit the banking crisis and Labours policies in that 10%?
Immigration does suppress wages particularly for the lower paid as well you know.
In what way has the economic union failed?? Jeez man open your eyes! What are the unemployment rates across Europe? Do you really think the EU is working? For who?
I omitted them as I can see why you might have an argument there. I disagree with you, but I would say that that is something more open to debate. The two points I mentioned of yours because I am curious as to why you think they have dropped your wealth.
Immigration has a pretty minimal affect on wage suppression at the lowest end. But increases wages at the upper end. In fact, I'm surprised the Tory's are so against it. Then again I don't think they need any help from outside to redistribute wealth upwards. They are doing a fine job of it.
And nice dodge on the 2nd part. Again, I'll ask. In what way has the economic union failed that has reduced your wealth?
-Matt
I didn't dodge it, I was trying to point out that the failed economic union has reduced most peoples wealth, thanks to protectionism, inability to trade more easily with people outside the bloc and enforced austerity. Do you think that high unemployment and the 'need' for austerity measures is not the fault of the EU and doesn't reduce wealth?"
Or, you could have saved a bit of typing and just say 'it hasn't'.
If you have savings or investments or business in Greece or somewhere that has screwed up its economy then just say that.
I mean, I know our GDP growth rate has pretty much followed the USAs exactly over the last few decades, and I know that as a member of the EU, the USA has been shafted too... oh wait... no, they are not.
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Wrong in which way? EU countries are already starting to argue amongst themselves and TM will have so much support at this election that it will mean the end of the Labour party and hopefully lead to the creation of a more modern viable opposition
actually this is not true....
at the EU27 summit over the weekend.... it look the 27 all of 5 minutes to agree a starting point for any negoiations.... which i think is a record for them agreeing on anything.... i don't they have agree that quickly on "tea or coffee".....
they are going to try and make the UK pay for any spending commitments they have LEGALLY made by law for the next 7 years..... and i don't blame them!!!
So how come LEGALLY they don't have to pay anything? And what percentage of EU assets and investments will we get in return?"
so what you are saying is that the uk should bascially not honour any of the legally binding spending commitments they have made.... (i am not going to call it a brexit bill)
cool... let me going to my bank and tell them i am leaving them and not going to pay my mortgage..... |
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"She is doing a great job, the more she annoys the silly little men running the EU the more hysterical they will get and the more they will be shown up for what they are and the more support she will get from individual countries and the people of this country. As for £100 billion? , has Dianne Abbott started working for The Times?"
Maybe she's just got a job as Junckers bag carrier.
As for TM. I think she should be as difficult as possible, and then a bit more.
If Juncker and the other shitheads think that they can bully and demand whatever the fuck they want. They had better think again.
Britain is fully entitled to walk away without a deal and not pay a penny.
If the cost of a deal is worse that going on to WTO rules then the PM is right.
No deal really is better than a bad deal.
However looking through the spin and bollocks that is coming from the EU at the moment. We can be pretty sure that most of it is just posturing and playing to the gallery in Europe. Just in case anyone has forgotten, there are few elections coming up this year.
Let's act tough with Britain and scare the Germans away from voting AFD or the French from Le Penn.
It will all calm down after September. |
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Wrong in which way? EU countries are already starting to argue amongst themselves and TM will have so much support at this election that it will mean the end of the Labour party and hopefully lead to the creation of a more modern viable opposition
actually this is not true....
at the EU27 summit over the weekend.... it look the 27 all of 5 minutes to agree a starting point for any negoiations.... which i think is a record for them agreeing on anything.... i don't they have agree that quickly on "tea or coffee".....
they are going to try and make the UK pay for any spending commitments they have LEGALLY made by law for the next 7 years..... and i don't blame them!!!
So how come LEGALLY they don't have to pay anything? And what percentage of EU assets and investments will we get in return?
so what you are saying is that the uk should bascially not honour any of the legally binding spending commitments they have made.... (i am not going to call it a brexit bill)
cool... let me going to my bank and tell them i am leaving them and not going to pay my mortgage..... "
No, they should honour some but the amounts being claimed are ridiculous.
You are perfectly free to do that at the bank and there's not a lot they can do |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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No, they should honour some but the amounts being claimed are ridiculous.
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if the contracts are legally binding... then why should they not cover all..... business doesn work by only paying the stuff you want to cover
if you have a legally binding contract for your business saying a company was going to pay you "x",.... then they turn around and say "nah... that a bit expensive... so i am actually not going to pay!"
how long would your business last?
would you do business with that company again?
so if the amount they have signed in contracts is a lot... tough! |
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No, they should honour some but the amounts being claimed are ridiculous.
if the contracts are legally binding... then why should they not cover all..... business doesn work by only paying the stuff you want to cover
if you have a legally binding contract for your business saying a company was going to pay you "x",.... then they turn around and say "nah... that a bit expensive... so i am actually not going to pay!"
how long would your business last?
would you do business with that company again?
so if the amount they have signed in contracts is a lot... tough!"
I'm sure the commitments they have are a lot and I'm sure they will be paid but I'm also sure they are not as much as the EU are (allegedly) asking for |
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"I'm one of the 70% but that is thanks to the banking crisis, Labours handling of the economy and the Tories need to repair it, Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union"
No!
Your one of the 70% because Tory economic policy over the last 7 years has been to cut taxes for the super wealthy and multinationals and fund those tax cuts by cutting government spending, cutting benefits and increasing taxes on the bottom 70%.
This has nothing to do with global banking crisis, nothing to do with Labour and nothing to do with repairing the economy.
In fact the Tories have doubled the national debt in the last 7 years! The fact is the Tories have failed to deliver a single economic promise they have made. 7 years ago (May 2010) Gideon said he would balance the budget in 5 years. 2 years ago Gideon said he would balance the budget in 5 years. This year Hammond said he needs 5 years to balance the budget. I could go on and point out equally obvious holes in what Tories have and are saying about the NHS, Police, fire service, military, local government, taxation, retirement age, social welfare, tax avoidance, inflation and just about every area of government policy.
But you do not want to hear it.
To you everything is Labours fault, the Tories are doing a great job and you refuse to hear anything to the contrary. You remind me of the Jews refusing to believe that the Nazis were sending them to their deaths even as they were being herded into cattle trucks for transportation to the death camps...
But, hey, I guess you read it in scum, torygraph or vile so it must be true. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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Yesterday manufacturing is rising faster than in years there is virtual full employment the ecomomy is growing she does not have to say much does she.
The opposition cannot add up basic arithmetic,is very split and do not have a policy that is possible to put into practice without bankrupting the country.
It is Chelsea v Sunderland and not much chance of a shock |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"She is doing a great job, the more she annoys the silly little men running the EU the more hysterical they will get and the more they will be shown up for what they are and the more support she will get from individual countries and the people of this country. As for £100 billion? , has Dianne Abbott started working for The Times?
Maybe she's just got a job as Junckers bag carrier.
As for TM. I think she should be as difficult as possible, and then a bit more.
If Juncker and the other shitheads think that they can bully and demand whatever the fuck they want. They had better think again.
Britain is fully entitled to walk away without a deal and not pay a penny.
If the cost of a deal is worse that going on to WTO rules then the PM is right.
No deal really is better than a bad deal.
However looking through the spin and bollocks that is coming from the EU at the moment. We can be pretty sure that most of it is just posturing and playing to the gallery in Europe. Just in case anyone has forgotten, there are few elections coming up this year.
Let's act tough with Britain and scare the Germans away from voting AFD or the French from Le Penn.
It will all calm down after September."
Right. And that is a perfect example of why I think this government is completely competent. As you point out above, "If the cost of a deal is worse that going on to WTO rules then the PM is right." But Davis was questions specifically on this in the select committee and was asked what the cost of "no deal" was. He had to admit that they had not even looked at the numbers of what "no deal" would cost. So you've got May going around saying "no deal is better than a bad deal" but no-one has bother to actually cost up what "no deal" might cost.
And on that note. What WTO rules? Yet another thing to negotiate in the next couple of years. What are our tariffs and quotas under the WTO? Don't know? No, nobody does as they haven't been negotiated yet.
So would a proposed deal be better or worse than WTO? We can't say, as we don't know what WTO would 'cost'.
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"Has she actually answered a question or come up with a single policy yet?No,good politions do not answer questions,name me a PM that did lol"
Churchill, Wilson, Heath, Callaghan, Thatcher, Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron...
I remember all the above answering questions both in parliament at question time, in interviews to journalist and in hustings to the general public. They lied some of the time, but none of them were so arrogant that they thought they could just repeat soundbites and refuse to answer any questions asked of them. |
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"I'm one of the 70% but that is thanks to the banking crisis, Labours handling of the economy and the Tories need to repair it, Labours open door immigration policy and membership of a failing economic union
No!
Your one of the 70% because Tory economic policy over the last 7 years has been to cut taxes for the super wealthy and multinationals and fund those tax cuts by cutting government spending, cutting benefits and increasing taxes on the bottom 70%.
This has nothing to do with global banking crisis, nothing to do with Labour and nothing to do with repairing the economy.
In fact the Tories have doubled the national debt in the last 7 years! The fact is the Tories have failed to deliver a single economic promise they have made. 7 years ago (May 2010) Gideon said he would balance the budget in 5 years. 2 years ago Gideon said he would balance the budget in 5 years. This year Hammond said he needs 5 years to balance the budget. I could go on and point out equally obvious holes in what Tories have and are saying about the NHS, Police, fire service, military, local government, taxation, retirement age, social welfare, tax avoidance, inflation and just about every area of government policy.
But you do not want to hear it.
To you everything is Labours fault, the Tories are doing a great job and you refuse to hear anything to the contrary. You remind me of the Jews refusing to believe that the Nazis were sending them to their deaths even as they were being herded into cattle trucks for transportation to the death camps...
But, hey, I guess you read it in scum, torygraph or vile so it must be true."
Oh dear. Jews and Nazis, how sad, but seems to be a running theme with Labour. Labour, the party that creates poverty and unemployment. How does the record of the Tories over the last 7 years compare with the Socialist governments around Europe? But maybe I can understand your anger and frustration, knowing that the party you support will be wiped out in a few weeks. Nevermind eh |
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"Jews and Nazis, how sad, but seems to be a running theme with Labour. Labour, the party that creates poverty and unemployment. How does the record of the Tories over the last 7 years compare with the Socialist governments around Europe? But maybe I can understand your anger and frustration, knowing that the party you support will be wiped out in a few weeks. Nevermind eh"
Tell me did you understand the analogy I was drawing? Because from where I am looking you either totally misunderstood the comparison I was making or you chose to copy May in ignoring what I was hinting at and claiming I said something different.
But just for you...
I was comparing May's refusal to believe anything she hears about the EU position regarding brexit and the Jewish leaderships refusal to believe what they were being told about the 'final solution' because it did not fit with their agenda. There was of course a second even more obvious comparison between the lines of Jews blindly following their leaders to the trains and your blind belief that all that is brexit is good as you blindly march to 'Man of the people' (ex merchant banker) Nige, May and Boris's 'no deal, hard brexit' drum beat.
But don't worry, there has been no inflation, prices have not gone up...
portion sizes have shrunk by about 20% and ingredients have been removed in the last 10 months... but that is not inflation... that's helping to make the population healthier... |
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"She is doing a great job, the more she annoys the silly little men running the EU the more hysterical they will get and the more they will be shown up for what they are and the more support she will get from individual countries and the people of this country. As for £100 billion? , has Dianne Abbott started working for The Times?"
Couldn't agree more and Teresa May showed how bloody difficult she can be with her brilliant speech in front of Downing street earlier today. Juncker and Co must have been spitting feathers.
As for the EU's £100 billion figure Brexit secretary David Davis and chancellor of the exchequer Philip Hammond did a joint press conference earlier today, they both said they don't recognise the (ridiculous) figures being bandied about by the EU. |
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"...If there was any semblance of opposition in this country she would be strung out to dry. "
Indeed. As it is we are treated to the likes of Diane Abbott (that's the Shadow Home Secretary if you can believe it!)... hanging herself out to dry. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"All of these acts have been deliberately timed to affect the result of the general election that will take place on 8 June." says May -- the woman that decided to call an early election specifically to obtain the mandate to the thing that she said she had a mandate for. If you fanny about calling an election instead of doing what you are meant to be doing and negotiating us with it of the EU, then the timing of announcements is entirely your own fault.
-Matt |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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Not to mention:
"If we don't get the negotiation right, your economic security and prosperity will be put at risk and the opportunities you seek for your families will simply not happen."
Which is basically saying "if we politicians fuck up because we are not competent at our job then you, Mr and Mrs ordinary person and your family are going to feel the hurt from it".
The woman is a fucking lunatic turning into a dictator.
-Matt |
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"Yesterday manufacturing is rising faster than in years there is virtual full employment the ecomomy is growing she does not have to say much does she.
The opposition cannot add up basic arithmetic,is very split and do not have a policy that is possible to put into practice without bankrupting the country.
It is Chelsea v Sunderland and not much chance of a shock"
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"If we don't get the negotiation right, your economic security and prosperity will be put at risk and the opportunities you seek for your families will simply not happen."
Which is basically saying:
Vote for Jeremy Corbyn and Labour and you will guarantee that the negotiations go tits up. |
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The EU is looking to be more and more the bully trying to scare the UK into submission.
I for one have never backed down from a bully, I might have had a few kickings in my time but have always stood back up again |
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"The EU is looking to be more and more the bully trying to scare the UK into submission.
I for one have never backed down from a bully, I might have had a few kickings in my time but have always stood back up again "
Well, May's strategy (such as it is) is working on at least one person, I see. |
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By *VBethTV/TS
over a year ago
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And wow the fearmongering is working well. They even have us doing it!
There are a thousand different figures being bandied about and the one shining fact is that nobody actually knows. Nevertheless there are simpletons taking articles from the Gruniard or the Scum and treating them like facts. Same goes for the TV news. They are out to sell their shoddy product and scare stories sell. Nobody knows the figures, this is part of the negotiations to come.
Could we perhaps wait for the actual figure in writing before we start yelling at each other. Every person foolish enough to spread fear is doing nothing to help their friends, families or country.
Propaganda like that was used back in the world wars, it was equally contemptible then.
Well done for blaming people for something we know nothing about...... |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"And wow the fearmongering is working well. They even have us doing it!
There are a thousand different figures being bandied about and the one shining fact is that nobody actually knows. Nevertheless there are simpletons taking articles from the Gruniard or the Scum and treating them like facts. Same goes for the TV news. They are out to sell their shoddy product and scare stories sell. Nobody knows the figures, this is part of the negotiations to come.
Could we perhaps wait for the actual figure in writing before we start yelling at each other. Every person foolish enough to spread fear is doing nothing to help their friends, families or country.
Propaganda like that was used back in the world wars, it was equally contemptible then.
Well done for blaming people for something we know nothing about...... "
Exactly ! |
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"And wow the fearmongering is working well. They even have us doing it!
There are a thousand different figures being bandied about and the one shining fact is that nobody actually knows. Nevertheless there are simpletons taking articles from the Gruniard or the Scum and treating them like facts. Same goes for the TV news. They are out to sell their shoddy product and scare stories sell. Nobody knows the figures, this is part of the negotiations to come.
Could we perhaps wait for the actual figure in writing before we start yelling at each other. Every person foolish enough to spread fear is doing nothing to help their friends, families or country.
Propaganda like that was used back in the world wars, it was equally contemptible then.
Well done for blaming people for something we know nothing about...... "
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I'll repurpose some words from earlier above -
Couldn't we have waited for the natural term of this government, before having an election, where we'd have seen their actual brexit results, instead of the current mess! Wouldn't have had the levels of speculation, figures plucked from wherever, ministers who can't say much and perhaps don't know much. |
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"The EU is looking to be more and more the bully trying to scare the UK into submission.
I for one have never backed down from a bully, I might have had a few kickings in my time but have always stood back up again
Well, May's strategy (such as it is) is working on at least one person, I see. "
"sighs" what strategy would that be then?
The EU has already shown it's cards by saying basically that the money needs to be sorted out befor anything else can be discussed.
So it's all about money and whay they can get out of it not for the good of both sides. |
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