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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke

Can Hackney Abbott be trusted with a hot cup of coffee

And how much is the cost of average cup nowadays

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By *eavenscentitCouple  over a year ago

barnstaple

Although a labour voter I wouldn't ever trust her

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning."

It was a farce.... 10,000 new police for £300k? Or is it £80 million? Or...no wait... 250,000 police....or is it 10,000 policemen and 250 women?

Luckily she has sent her kids to a Grammar School.....they may have a chance of coming out with better maths skills than she seems to have. Don't know how Nick Ferrari dint actually piss himself during this interview!

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning.

It was a farce.... 10,000 new police for £300k? Or is it £80 million? Or...no wait... 250,000 police....or is it 10,000 policemen and 250 women?

Luckily she has sent her kids to a Grammar School.....they may have a chance of coming out with better maths skills than she seems to have. Don't know how Nick Ferrari dint actually piss himself during this interview!"

It's certainly a "Natalie Bennett" moment!

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning.

It was a farce.... 10,000 new police for £300k? Or is it £80 million? Or...no wait... 250,000 police....or is it 10,000 policemen and 250 women?

Luckily she has sent her kids to a Grammar School.....they may have a chance of coming out with better maths skills than she seems to have. Don't know how Nick Ferrari dint actually piss himself during this interview!"

In the interests of fairness, Miss Abbott's son did not attend grammar school.

He went to the fee paying private school, City of London. £10000 per year were the fees.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Can Hackney Abbott be trusted with a hot cup of coffee

And how much is the cost of average cup nowadays "

About £300,000 a cup.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning."

Nothing new there

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning.

It was a farce.... 10,000 new police for £300k? Or is it £80 million? Or...no wait... 250,000 police....or is it 10,000 policemen and 250 women?

Luckily she has sent her kids to a Grammar School.....they may have a chance of coming out with better maths skills than she seems to have. Don't know how Nick Ferrari dint actually piss himself during this interview!

It's certainly a "Natalie Bennett" moment! "

Put Natalie's moment to shame, that looked like a hiccup compared to this.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London

It was a pretty poor performance.

Should have taken the PMs example and just said the same four words over and over without even trying to answer questions.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I was cringing and I dislike Abbott

Allotment/Jam man said 200 mil

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning.

It was a farce.... 10,000 new police for £300k? Or is it £80 million? Or...no wait... 250,000 police....or is it 10,000 policemen and 250 women?

Luckily she has sent her kids to a Grammar School.....they may have a chance of coming out with better maths skills than she seems to have. Don't know how Nick Ferrari dint actually piss himself during this interview!

In the interests of fairness, Miss Abbott's son did not attend grammar school.

He went to the fee paying private school, City of London. £10000 per year were the fees."

Sorry I should have said "private fee-paying" grammar school! Silly me. She wouldn't want to damage her child's education by scrapping the school he attended would she?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"It was a pretty poor performance.

Should have taken the PMs example and just said the same four words over and over without even trying to answer questions. "

Labour have a terrible habit of waffling when addressing the general public, who currently mainly have the time to listen to soundbites and quick interviews whilst commuting.

Someone needs to give them the memo to keep things concise unless they are in parliament, writing a column or post, or in a debate.

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"Can Hackney Abbott be trusted with a hot cup of coffee

And how much is the cost of average cup nowadays

About £300,000 a cup."

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...

PMSL.

I've just watched the recording of this. How the hell Nick Ferrari kept a straight face is beyond me.

This wasn't a "car crash" interview. It was a car crash, train wreck, plane crash, and the space shuttle rolled into one.

She didn't have a fucking clue what she was talking about.

Thank god that the Tories have got a big lead because the thought of her becoming home secretary is the stuff of real nightmares.

What a fucking imbecile she is.

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham

I've seen a Campaign video by Ashfield MP Gloria Del Piero today, in which she gets the date of the election wrong. (June 9th instead of June 8th)

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral

How she ever went to Oxford(I think)I will never know,I thought you had to be clever or priviledged.

She is neither of these as she cannot do simple maths.She is also a two faced bitch as her boy went to private school.

I cannot umderstand how she is meant to be a leading light in the labour party,she is certainly doing her best to make her friend Corbyn lose the election big time

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"How she ever went to Oxford(I think)I will never know,I thought you had to be clever or priviledged.

She is neither of these as she cannot do simple maths.She is also a two faced bitch as her boy went to private school.

I cannot umderstand how she is meant to be a leading light in the labour party,she is certainly doing her best to make her friend Corbyn lose the election big time"

I think having had JC cock in her mouth has helped her, although may be he should have left it there for her latest interview

Let's be honest, she is lying racist two faced elitist

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"PMSL.

I've just watched the recording of this. How the hell Nick Ferrari kept a straight face is beyond me.

This wasn't a "car crash" interview. It was a car crash, train wreck, plane crash, and the space shuttle rolled into one.

She didn't have a fucking clue what she was talking about.

Thank god that the Tories have got a big lead because the thought of her becoming home secretary is the stuff of real nightmares.

What a fucking imbecile she is. "

She is a self centred disaster, who hides behind the label of being an offended black who isn't treated equally or fairly

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By *eavenNhellCouple  over a year ago

carrbrook stalybridge

Malcolm Tuckers thoughts were caught be a hidden microphone

What the fuck are you playing at? Can your expenses not stretch to a fucking calculator, for fuck sake? I bet even Jeremy has a fucking abacus lying around somewhere. Don't you think Labour are going to find it hard enough to fight as it is without you mumbling bollocks live on air? You were less prepared for that than a fucking Jehovas Witness knocking on the door of ISIS, you fucking bowl cutted buffoon. You may as well walk around with a fucking placard that says 'Vote Labour, we're as good with money as a smack head who's found a purse'

Get your fucking act together you fucking tiny eyed human sphere. Patronising the fuck out of someone doesn't make you right, just ask Theressa. You're like a shit substitute teacher who always covers RE because you know the sum total of fuck all and can't control the class, you fucking condescending snake voiced slow warbler.

If you can't be arsed actually knowing the fucking policy you're discussing then revert to the tory way, repeat the same bullshit phrase over and over again or just evade the fucking question, it's as fucking simple as you, you fucking lobotomised bumble cunt.

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"How she ever went to Oxford(I think)I will never know,I thought you had to be clever or priviledged.

She is neither of these as she cannot do simple maths.She is also a two faced bitch as her boy went to private school.

I cannot umderstand how she is meant to be a leading light in the labour party,she is certainly doing her best to make her friend Corbyn lose the election big time"

She read History at Newnham at Cambridge

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Malcolm Tuckers thoughts were caught be a hidden microphone

What the fuck are you playing at? Can your expenses not stretch to a fucking calculator, for fuck sake? I bet even Jeremy has a fucking abacus lying around somewhere. Don't you think Labour are going to find it hard enough to fight as it is without you mumbling bollocks live on air? You were less prepared for that than a fucking Jehovas Witness knocking on the door of ISIS, you fucking bowl cutted buffoon. You may as well walk around with a fucking placard that says 'Vote Labour, we're as good with money as a smack head who's found a purse'

Get your fucking act together you fucking tiny eyed human sphere. Patronising the fuck out of someone doesn't make you right, just ask Theressa. You're like a shit substitute teacher who always covers RE because you know the sum total of fuck all and can't control the class, you fucking condescending snake voiced slow warbler.

If you can't be arsed actually knowing the fucking policy you're discussing then revert to the tory way, repeat the same bullshit phrase over and over again or just evade the fucking question, it's as fucking simple as you, you fucking lobotomised bumble cunt."

Love it.

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"Malcolm Tuckers thoughts were caught be a hidden microphone

What the fuck are you playing at? Can your expenses not stretch to a fucking calculator, for fuck sake? I bet even Jeremy has a fucking abacus lying around somewhere. Don't you think Labour are going to find it hard enough to fight as it is without you mumbling bollocks live on air? You were less prepared for that than a fucking Jehovas Witness knocking on the door of ISIS, you fucking bowl cutted buffoon. You may as well walk around with a fucking placard that says 'Vote Labour, we're as good with money as a smack head who's found a purse'

Get your fucking act together you fucking tiny eyed human sphere. Patronising the fuck out of someone doesn't make you right, just ask Theressa. You're like a shit substitute teacher who always covers RE because you know the sum total of fuck all and can't control the class, you fucking condescending snake voiced slow warbler.

If you can't be arsed actually knowing the fucking policy you're discussing then revert to the tory way, repeat the same bullshit phrase over and over again or just evade the fucking question, it's as fucking simple as you, you fucking lobotomised bumble cunt."

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"How she ever went to Oxford(I think)I will never know,I thought you had to be clever or priviledged.

She is neither of these as she cannot do simple maths.She is also a two faced bitch as her boy went to private school.

I cannot umderstand how she is meant to be a leading light in the labour party,she is certainly doing her best to make her friend Corbyn lose the election big time

She read History at Newnham at Cambridge "

Well I was pretty sure it wasn't mathematics

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"

'Vote Labour, we're as good with money as a smack head who's found a purse'

"

Reading it again. Just that one sentence has to be by far the best thing written in the whole election campaign so far.

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"

'Vote Labour, we're as good with money as a smack head who's found a purse'

Reading it again. Just that one sentence has to be by far the best thing written in the whole election campaign so far.

"

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"PMSL.

I've just watched the recording of this. How the hell Nick Ferrari kept a straight face is beyond me.

This wasn't a "car crash" interview. It was a car crash, train wreck, plane crash, and the space shuttle rolled into one.

She didn't have a fucking clue what she was talking about.

Thank god that the Tories have got a big lead because the thought of her becoming home secretary is the stuff of real nightmares.

What a fucking imbecile she is. "

It would make for lots of fun though wouldn't it. It would make Gordon Brown's sums look like Albert Einstein had been in power.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Bloody hell.. Just heard the interview on the news.. cringe worthy

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning.

It was a farce.... 10,000 new police for £300k? Or is it £80 million? Or...no wait... 250,000 police....or is it 10,000 policemen and 250 women?

Luckily she has sent her kids to a Grammar School.....they may have a chance of coming out with better maths skills than she seems to have. Don't know how Nick Ferrari dint actually piss himself during this interview!

It's certainly a "Natalie Bennett" moment! "

Natalie Bennett apologised afterwards. Diane never admits she's wrong even though she's made flat out racist remarks on camera and praises Chairman Mao in a way that even Chinese people cringe at.

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

I think its perfectly clear, there will be some police if Labour get into power, it might be more than we have now, or fewer, or the same. It will cost either more, less or the same as today. Ok, everyone happy now?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning.

It was a farce.... 10,000 new police for £300k? Or is it £80 million? Or...no wait... 250,000 police....or is it 10,000 policemen and 250 women?

Luckily she has sent her kids to a Grammar School.....they may have a chance of coming out with better maths skills than she seems to have. Don't know how Nick Ferrari dint actually piss himself during this interview!

It's certainly a "Natalie Bennett" moment!

Natalie Bennett apologised afterwards. Diane never admits she's wrong even though she's made flat out racist remarks on camera and praises Chairman Mao in a way that even Chinese people cringe at. "

She makes me struggle to keep the faith with labour

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Can Hackney Abbott be trusted with a hot cup of coffee

And how much is the cost of average cup nowadays "

We all make mistakes. She knows how much a private education costs, thats the main thing.

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"I think its perfectly clear, there will be some police if Labour get into power, it might be more than we have now, or fewer, or the same. It will cost either more, less or the same as today. Ok, everyone happy now? "

Bloody hell, you've had a humour pill

Nicely put by the way, did you coach Diane pre interview...

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"Can Hackney Abbott be trusted with a hot cup of coffee

And how much is the cost of average cup nowadays

We all make mistakes. She knows how much a private education costs, thats the main thing. "

Is that the same private education that she wishes to deny others, should labour be allowed to back charge those who have been allowed this luxury in life, and use the money to provide free schooling to the Calais camp children

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"PMSL.

I've just watched the recording of this. How the hell Nick Ferrari kept a straight face is beyond me.

This wasn't a "car crash" interview. It was a car crash, train wreck, plane crash, and the space shuttle rolled into one.

She didn't have a fucking clue what she was talking about.

Thank god that the Tories have got a big lead because the thought of her becoming home secretary is the stuff of real nightmares.

What a fucking imbecile she is.

It would make for lots of fun though wouldn't it. It would make Gordon Brown's sums look like Albert Einstein had been in power."

Nice profile pic

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock

I wonder if the....

#prayforDiane

...will be making a comeback on twitter after this performance.

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"I wonder if the....

#prayforDiane

...will be making a comeback on twitter after this performance. "

I'm of to check...

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By *iss_Samantha_LovecockTV/TS  over a year ago

bmth /poole sometimes blandford

what a fuckin embarrassment she is .. imagine her having to deal with important issues on the world stage if Labour won the elction !

Labour's finished if shes their idea of a home secretary ..cant imagine she'll be in her job for much longer

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"She looked totally out of her depth being interviewed this morning.

It was a farce.... 10,000 new police for £300k? Or is it £80 million? Or...no wait... 250,000 police....or is it 10,000 policemen and 250 women?

Luckily she has sent her kids to a Grammar School.....they may have a chance of coming out with better maths skills than she seems to have. Don't know how Nick Ferrari dint actually piss himself during this interview!

It's certainly a "Natalie Bennett" moment!

Natalie Bennett apologised afterwards. Diane never admits she's wrong even though she's made flat out racist remarks on camera and praises Chairman Mao in a way that even Chinese people cringe at.

She makes me struggle to keep the faith with labour"

Don't be wed to a party. Labour has moved radically to the left. If those are your politics then by all means vote for them. But anyone who voted labour in 1997 and will still vote for them this year is just a labour groupie.

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By *ary_ArgyllMan  over a year ago

Argyll

She claims she had the right figures in 6 other interviews and just got flustered - maybe, it's perfectly possible especially given a hectic media schedule, but I'd be interested if someone could check out those 6 other interviews.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"She claims she had the right figures in 6 other interviews and just got flustered - maybe, it's perfectly possible especially given a hectic media schedule, but I'd be interested if someone could check out those 6 other interviews."

Did you listen to the interview though? She gave 3 different figures and naturally started throwing the victim card around.

She said £300k, then £80m then 4:16 minutes after being asked the original question, she says £298m a year but that's only going to cover salaries (at best) so it's still wrong.

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"Can Hackney Abbott be trusted with a hot cup of coffee

And how much is the cost of average cup nowadays

About £300,000 a cup."

Or is that £300,000 a cop? No, wait a minute....

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"She claims she had the right figures in 6 other interviews and just got flustered - maybe, it's perfectly possible especially given a hectic media schedule, but I'd be interested if someone could check out those 6 other interviews."

It was 5 interviews, no wait a minute, it was 3 interviews, no, maybe it WAS 6 interviews.... in my head..... with all the other voices.

Please don't make me do numbers again, I hate numbers......

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"She claims she had the right figures in 6 other interviews and just got flustered - maybe, it's perfectly possible especially given a hectic media schedule, but I'd be interested if someone could check out those 6 other interviews.

It was 5 interviews, no wait a minute, it was 3 interviews, no, maybe it WAS 6 interviews.... in my head..... with all the other voices.

Please don't make me do numbers again, I hate numbers......"

At one stage she even said they were recruiting 250,000 police officers, that's a freudian slip right there for her planned police state. It's animal farm all over again

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"She claims she had the right figures in 6 other interviews and just got flustered - maybe, it's perfectly possible especially given a hectic media schedule, but I'd be interested if someone could check out those 6 other interviews.

It was 5 interviews, no wait a minute, it was 3 interviews, no, maybe it WAS 6 interviews.... in my head..... with all the other voices.

Please don't make me do numbers again, I hate numbers......

At one stage she even said they were recruiting 250,000 police officers, that's a freudian slip right there for her planned police state. It's animal farm all over again "

And to think if Labour get in, she'll be in charge of Policing, Ant-terrorism, Immigration. And be in the Privy Council, the National Security Council , and a senior member of the cabinet.

And our new bank holidays, which in a leaked memo she's suggested should be

38th Feb

64th March

88th Sept

93rd Demtober

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"Can Hackney Abbott be trusted with a hot cup of coffee

And how much is the cost of average cup nowadays

About £300,000 a cup.

Or is that £300,000 a cop? No, wait a minute...."

Yeah, they are going to hire one cop, on £300,000 a year, for 250,000 years

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"Can Hackney Abbott be trusted with a hot cup of coffee

And how much is the cost of average cup nowadays

About £300,000 a cup.

Or is that £300,000 a cop? No, wait a minute....

Yeah, they are going to hire one cop, on £300,000 a year, for 250,000 years"

He (or she) will need all the coffee they can get then.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm surprised that when the going got tough she didn't walk out claiming she had a migraine - like she did just before the brexit vote despite doing interviews all day long

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Can Hackney Abbott be trusted with a hot cup of coffee

And how much is the cost of average cup nowadays

About £300,000 a cup.

Or is that £300,000 a cop? No, wait a minute....

Yeah, they are going to hire one cop, on £300,000 a year, for 250,000 years

He (or she) will need all the coffee they can get then. "

Diane Abbott saw the Sci-Fi action film Robocop and thought it was a documentary.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I'm surprised that when the going got tough she didn't walk out claiming she had a migraine - like she did just before the brexit vote despite doing interviews all day long"

Or pull out the emily thornbury line of "you're only asking me hard questions because I'm a woman"

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

I was bamboozled in working it out last night and my heroic (admittedly crap maths) came to a figure of £960000000 or £9.6bn?

(10k police x £24k annual salary x 4 years)

Does anybody know the actual figure for the cost of 10,000 new police. As I can't see any article putting a figure on it?

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By *ercuryMan  over a year ago

Grantham


"I was bamboozled in working it out last night and my heroic (admittedly crap maths) came to a figure of £960000000 or £9.6bn?

(10k police x £24k annual salary x 4 years)

Does anybody know the actual figure for the cost of 10,000 new police. As I can't see any article putting a figure on it?"

You are way out on your figures. Most police are on more than 30k per year. You need to add onto that Employer's NI and Pension obligations as well.

I believe that the figure being put out by Labour is £300 million per year.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"I was bamboozled in working it out last night and my heroic (admittedly crap maths) came to a figure of £960000000 or £9.6bn?

(10k police x £24k annual salary x 4 years)

Does anybody know the actual figure for the cost of 10,000 new police. As I can't see any article putting a figure on it?

You are way out on your figures. Most police are on more than 30k per year. You need to add onto that Employer's NI and Pension obligations as well.

I believe that the figure being put out by Labour is £300 million per year."

She is talking about new police though, so is talking about new recruits. New recruits start around £19k I believe I incrementally increase, which is why I chose £24k.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"I was bamboozled in working it out last night and my heroic (admittedly crap maths) came to a figure of £960000000 or £9.6bn?

(10k police x £24k annual salary x 4 years)

Does anybody know the actual figure for the cost of 10,000 new police. As I can't see any article putting a figure on it?

You are way out on your figures. Most police are on more than 30k per year. You need to add onto that Employer's NI and Pension obligations as well.

I believe that the figure being put out by Labour is £300 million per year.

She is talking about new police though, so is talking about new recruits. New recruits start around £19k I believe I incrementally increase, which is why I chose £24k. "

As a rough rule of thumb you'd need to double to salary to get the true cost. Police use a lot of equipment to do their job (vans, dogs, IT, handcuffs etc). More police = more equipment. Not forgetting you need to factor in recruitment costs, increased personnel management, training costs etc. So I'd go with more like £600m a year.

Apparently this will all be funded by reversing cuts to capital gains tax which will raise ~£2bn. CGT as a tax raised £6.5bn last year and is forecast to rise to £9.8bn in 2020 under the current rates. It strikes me as unlikely that you can squeeze another ~30% out of people, give the take is already going up not down. Remember that politicians have been promising to reduce the tax gap and recover the £20bn-£40bn evaded annually since at least 1997 (read the first new labour manifesto) and all have failed miserably to do so.

So I don't have any confidence that she either knows the cost or has a credible plan to fund whatever the cost is.

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By *immyXXMan  over a year ago

Pontypridd

She said thousand instead of millions? Stupid bit not the end of the world??

Teresa May was down my way last week and said she wants to put a stop to tourism??? I think she ment terrorism but well never know because it doesn't seem to be in the press??

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville


"She said thousand instead of millions? Stupid bit not the end of the world??

Teresa May was down my way last week and said she wants to put a stop to tourism??? I think she ment terrorism but well never know because it doesn't seem to be in the press??

"

I am not concerned about how it would be paid for and I am staying away from political inking. I was just interested in a figure of the cost as no paper I read said how much it would actually cost. People have mentioned NI and pension contributions, alongside training, equipment and facilities which again are things I to consider. But as a total, I cannot see the sum being £300m over 4 years. If someone could offer a sum... (facilities, managers, equipment etc is a a great shout)

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"She said thousand instead of millions? Stupid bit not the end of the world??

Teresa May was down my way last week and said she wants to put a stop to tourism??? I think she ment terrorism but well never know because it doesn't seem to be in the press??

I am not concerned about how it would be paid for and I am staying away from political inking. I was just interested in a figure of the cost as no paper I read said how much it would actually cost. People have mentioned NI and pension contributions, alongside training, equipment and facilities which again are things I to consider. But as a total, I cannot see the sum being £300m over 4 years. If someone could offer a sum... (facilities, managers, equipment etc is a a great shout)"

I said i would estimate the final cost at £600m a year, in her interview she said that the recruitment was roughly the same each year (i.e. 2,500) so over 4 years that would be £1.5bn

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"I was bamboozled in working it out last night and my heroic (admittedly crap maths) came to a figure of £960000000 or £9.6bn?

(10k police x £24k annual salary x 4 years)

Does anybody know the actual figure for the cost of 10,000 new police. As I can't see any article putting a figure on it?

You are way out on your figures. Most police are on more than 30k per year. You need to add onto that Employer's NI and Pension obligations as well.

I believe that the figure being put out by Labour is £300 million per year."

I worked it out at about £300 to £350 Million a year. But it takes 2 years to fully train a police officer, so that cost is sunk until they are fully trained.

Probably what Labour are thinking is that it will take two or 3 years to recruit those officers, so by the time that the full costs are incurred they'll be back in opposition and leave someone else with the costs and the shift to sort out, again.

We should wait until the manifestos are out, but listening to labour is like listening to a 3 year old trying to explain the big bang theory. Entertaining, but total bullocks.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"listening to labour is like listening to a 3 year old trying to explain the big bang theory. Entertaining, but total bullocks. "

The other day someone (attempting to be smart) said to me "if you think politics is in such a state then you should put yourself forward for election". Of course they completely miss the point that the sought after qualities of a modern politician (from a party perspective) are people who will repeat dogma and slogans without thinking too hard about them. Will be a human pinata for the fuck ups of more senior people and to try and live the most dull, boring personal life possible.

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By *oodmessMan  over a year ago

yumsville

Thanks for posting figures up and sorry for a terribly written post earlier - glad you could make something out of it!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?"

In my opinion JC puts people around him that sign up to a unique ideology. There aren't many people defending chairman Mao anymore but most of them can be found on the labour front benches so what are we to make of that?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"In my opinion JC puts people around him that sign up to a unique ideology. There aren't many people defending chairman Mao anymore but most of them can be found on the labour front benches so what are we to make of that? "

Totally agree

They are nothing short of extremists

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By *mmabluTV/TS  over a year ago

upton wirral


"I was bamboozled in working it out last night and my heroic (admittedly crap maths) came to a figure of £960000000 or £9.6bn?

(10k police x £24k annual salary x 4 years)

Does anybody know the actual figure for the cost of 10,000 new police. As I can't see any article putting a figure on it?

You are way out on your figures. Most police are on more than 30k per year. You need to add onto that Employer's NI and Pension obligations as well.

I believe that the figure being put out by Labour is £300 million per year.

I worked it out at about £300 to £350 Million a year. But it takes 2 years to fully train a police officer, so that cost is sunk until they are fully trained.

Probably what Labour are thinking is that it will take two or 3 years to recruit those officers, so by the time that the full costs are incurred they'll be back in opposition and leave someone else with the costs and the shift to sort out, again.

We should wait until the manifestos are out, but listening to labour is like listening to a 3 year old trying to explain the big bang theory. Entertaining, but total bullocks. "

so true lol

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?"

Nope. She's just a politician who isn't very competent. There have been plenty of white male MPs who aren't very good at their jobs too. No need to make it a race or sex issue.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?

Nope. She's just a politician who isn't very competent. There have been plenty of white male MPs who aren't very good at their jobs too. No need to make it a race or sex issue. "

But then you look at emily thornberry and wonder where the flip they find these people.

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?"

She was hired on the basis that she knows JC's secret fantasies

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke

Does anyone remember Natalie Bennett saying that the green party would build 500,000 new homes for £2.7bn (or £5,400 each).

Unlike Dianne, Natalie apologised afterwards and her voice cried "guess" as she uttered the £2.7bn figure.

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"Does anyone remember Natalie Bennett saying that the green party would build 500,000 new homes for £2.7bn (or £5,400 each).

Unlike Dianne, Natalie apologised afterwards and her voice cried "guess" as she uttered the £2.7bn figure. "

Maybe she was planning on getting 10,000 police officers at £3 per hour to build them.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Does anyone remember Natalie Bennett saying that the green party would build 500,000 new homes for £2.7bn (or £5,400 each).

Unlike Dianne, Natalie apologised afterwards and her voice cried "guess" as she uttered the £2.7bn figure.

Maybe she was planning on getting 10,000 police officers at £3 per hour to build them."

its worth seeking out the clip on YouTube just to hear her voice, it's hard to describe but it's hilarious. It's a mixture of "I'm guessing" with "I know I'm about to get killed here"

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By *andS66Couple  over a year ago

Derby


"Does anyone remember Natalie Bennett saying that the green party would build 500,000 new homes for £2.7bn (or £5,400 each).

Unlike Dianne, Natalie apologised afterwards and her voice cried "guess" as she uttered the £2.7bn figure.

Maybe she was planning on getting 10,000 police officers at £3 per hour to build them.

its worth seeking out the clip on YouTube just to hear her voice, it's hard to describe but it's hilarious. It's a mixture of "I'm guessing" with "I know I'm about to get killed here" "

And a third, "I know I should know this, but I really haven't got a clue".

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

It sounded to me as if she was auditioning for the haribo adverts.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Does anyone remember Natalie Bennett saying that the green party would build 500,000 new homes for £2.7bn (or £5,400 each).

Unlike Dianne, Natalie apologised afterwards and her voice cried "guess" as she uttered the £2.7bn figure.

Maybe she was planning on getting 10,000 police officers at £3 per hour to build them.

its worth seeking out the clip on YouTube just to hear her voice, it's hard to describe but it's hilarious. It's a mixture of "I'm guessing" with "I know I'm about to get killed here"

And a third, "I know I should know this, but I really haven't got a clue"."

She would have better off just saying "you know I do know the figures but have just had a brain freeze"!!! It would have gone a whole lot better

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Does anyone remember Natalie Bennett saying that the green party would build 500,000 new homes for £2.7bn (or £5,400 each).

Unlike Dianne, Natalie apologised afterwards and her voice cried "guess" as she uttered the £2.7bn figure.

Maybe she was planning on getting 10,000 police officers at £3 per hour to build them.

its worth seeking out the clip on YouTube just to hear her voice, it's hard to describe but it's hilarious. It's a mixture of "I'm guessing" with "I know I'm about to get killed here"

And a third, "I know I should know this, but I really haven't got a clue".

She would have better off just saying "you know I do know the figures but have just had a brain freeze"!!! It would have gone a whole lot better "

That would of been better, but it is her job to go out and present these figures.

I have a gram of sympathy for her because i believe the reason she wasn't fluent with the figures is because that idiot John McDonnell has been out and about promising other spending. Since the captial gains changes would raise £2bn (at best) and this would cost ~£1.5bn she was trying avoid double counting.

Labour wasn't prepared for a snap election which is JCs fault. Mrs May is a devious son of a bitch but she played them for a fool on this one.

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By *mmmMaybeCouple  over a year ago

West Wales


"How she ever went to Oxford(I think)I will never know,I thought you had to be clever or priviledged.

She is neither of these as she cannot do simple maths.She is also a two faced bitch as her boy went to private school.

I cannot umderstand how she is meant to be a leading light in the labour party,she is certainly doing her best to make her friend Corbyn lose the election big time

She read History at Newnham at Cambridge "

Hopefully something her political career will be after the election. What an incompetent nasty piece of work she is.

S

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By *hetalkingstoveMan  over a year ago

London


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?

Nope. She's just a politician who isn't very competent. There have been plenty of white male MPs who aren't very good at their jobs too. No need to make it a race or sex issue.

But then you look at emily thornberry and wonder where the flip they find these people. "

People who aren't good at their jobs? There's loads of them of all colours and genders. But these things only get brought up when it's not a white man.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?

Nope. She's just a politician who isn't very competent. There have been plenty of white male MPs who aren't very good at their jobs too. No need to make it a race or sex issue.

But then you look at emily thornberry and wonder where the flip they find these people.

People who aren't good at their jobs? There's loads of them of all colours and genders. But these things only get brought up when it's not a white man. "

That's right, Jeremy Corbyn is always being criticised because he is a one armed black lesbian muslim

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"Does anyone remember Natalie Bennett saying that the green party would build 500,000 new homes for £2.7bn (or £5,400 each).

Unlike Dianne, Natalie apologised afterwards and her voice cried "guess" as she uttered the £2.7bn figure.

Maybe she was planning on getting 10,000 police officers at £3 per hour to build them.

its worth seeking out the clip on YouTube just to hear her voice, it's hard to describe but it's hilarious. It's a mixture of "I'm guessing" with "I know I'm about to get killed here"

And a third, "I know I should know this, but I really haven't got a clue".

She would have better off just saying "you know I do know the figures but have just had a brain freeze"!!! It would have gone a whole lot better

That would of been better, but it is her job to go out and present these figures.

I have a gram of sympathy for her because i believe the reason she wasn't fluent with the figures is because that idiot John McDonnell has been out and about promising other spending. Since the captial gains changes would raise £2bn (at best) and this would cost ~£1.5bn she was trying avoid double counting.

Labour wasn't prepared for a snap election which is JCs fault. Mrs May is a devious son of a bitch but she played them for a fool on this one. "

We all know JC J Mc and DA are totally incompetent therefore are totally incapable of governing the country, non of which makes Theresa May devious bitch, but do prove that she is the right candidate

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?

Nope. She's just a politician who isn't very competent. There have been plenty of white male MPs who aren't very good at their jobs too. No need to make it a race or sex issue.

But then you look at emily thornberry and wonder where the flip they find these people.

People who aren't good at their jobs? There's loads of them of all colours and genders. But these things only get brought up when it's not a white man.

That's right, Jeremy Corbyn is always being criticised because he is a one armed black lesbian muslim"

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?

Nope. She's just a politician who isn't very competent. There have been plenty of white male MPs who aren't very good at their jobs too. No need to make it a race or sex issue.

But then you look at emily thornberry and wonder where the flip they find these people.

People who aren't good at their jobs? There's loads of them of all colours and genders. But these things only get brought up when it's not a white man.

That's right, Jeremy Corbyn is always being criticised because he is a one armed black lesbian muslim"

JC has plenty of supporters who support him personally, party membership surged under him and he won two leadership elections. How many people have ever said they personally like Dianne Abbott or Emily Thornberry?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?

Nope. She's just a politician who isn't very competent. There have been plenty of white male MPs who aren't very good at their jobs too. No need to make it a race or sex issue.

But then you look at emily thornberry and wonder where the flip they find these people.

People who aren't good at their jobs? There's loads of them of all colours and genders. But these things only get brought up when it's not a white man.

That's right, Jeremy Corbyn is always being criticised because he is a one armed black lesbian muslim

JC has plenty of supporters who support him personally, party membership surged under him and he won two leadership elections. How many people have ever said they personally like Dianne Abbott or Emily Thornberry? "

One. Jeremy Corbyn

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?

Nope. She's just a politician who isn't very competent. There have been plenty of white male MPs who aren't very good at their jobs too. No need to make it a race or sex issue.

But then you look at emily thornberry and wonder where the flip they find these people.

People who aren't good at their jobs? There's loads of them of all colours and genders. But these things only get brought up when it's not a white man.

That's right, Jeremy Corbyn is always being criticised because he is a one armed black lesbian muslim

JC has plenty of supporters who support him personally, party membership surged under him and he won two leadership elections. How many people have ever said they personally like Dianne Abbott or Emily Thornberry?

One. Jeremy Corbyn "

Then Dianne turned to Jeremy and said "if you like it then you should have put a ring on it"

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"She's a perfect example of positive discrimination. Hiring somebody on the basis of gender and race to fit Labour's "diversity" bullshit agenda.

Whatever happened to hiring based on ability or competence?

Nope. She's just a politician who isn't very competent. There have been plenty of white male MPs who aren't very good at their jobs too. No need to make it a race or sex issue.

But then you look at emily thornberry and wonder where the flip they find these people.

People who aren't good at their jobs? There's loads of them of all colours and genders. But these things only get brought up when it's not a white man.

That's right, Jeremy Corbyn is always being criticised because he is a one armed black lesbian muslim

JC has plenty of supporters who support him personally, party membership surged under him and he won two leadership elections. How many people have ever said they personally like Dianne Abbott or Emily Thornberry?

One. Jeremy Corbyn "

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By *thwalescplCouple  over a year ago

brecon

Diane Abbott is the gift that keeps on giving lol!

She's just had another embarrassing "meltdown" when talking about Labour loses during the local govt elections.

Lets face it, between her, that dickhead who thinks the IRA should be honoured, and Corbyn, Labour have no hope of even being a creditable Opposition after the Election.

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By *otlovefun42Couple  over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Diane Abbott is the gift that keeps on giving lol!

She's just had another embarrassing "meltdown" when talking about Labour loses during the local govt elections.

Lets face it, between her, that dickhead who thinks the IRA should be honoured, and Corbyn, Labour have no hope of even being a creditable Opposition after the Election."

Yep.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been "

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections).

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). "

.

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?"

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. "

.

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy"

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today"

.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Government debt isnt a problem in the UK either, neither is American government debt, last time I looked were both selling our bonds with ease?.

Private debt is the problem, thats the debt the banks needed bailing out from and which we pushed alot of it from private bank account books to central Bank books.

This myth that the government needs belt tightening while at the same time private debt is being paid off is what caused the great depression of the 20s&30s.

How do you expand the money supply to create growth while both sectors of private and government contract?? Its impossible.

Now as we know it's a private debt problem, this means there are only two solutions.

We let private sector debt contract naturally!

We have a debt jubilee of one form or another!.

Now if we need to contract private debt then we surely must grow government debt to take up that slack?

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?"

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Government debt isnt a problem in the UK either, neither is American government debt, last time I looked were both selling our bonds with ease?.

Private debt is the problem, thats the debt the banks needed bailing out from and which we pushed alot of it from private bank account books to central Bank books.

This myth that the government needs belt tightening while at the same time private debt is being paid off is what caused the great depression of the 20s&30s.

How do you expand the money supply to create growth while both sectors of private and government contract?? Its impossible.

Now as we know it's a private debt problem, this means there are only two solutions.

We let private sector debt contract naturally!

We have a debt jubilee of one form or another!.

Now if we need to contract private debt then we surely must grow government debt to take up that slack?"

You think the banks needed bailing out?

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate"

As such it has no need to worry about Islamic terrorism, so there are bonuses in the principle

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate

As such it has no need to worry about Islamic terrorism, so there are bonuses in the principle "

It's been quite a while since i read such an ignorant statement. The current islamic terrorism has a lot more to do with an arbitary, but foolish, policy called debaathification than letting too many polish people come to the UK.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate"

.

Ah but its GDP per head has grown.

The country might not be wealthier but the people are, and as you say, they did all that without feeling the need for mass immigration

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate

As such it has no need to worry about Islamic terrorism, so there are bonuses in the principle

It's been quite a while since i read such an ignorant statement. The current islamic terrorism has a lot more to do with an arbitary, but foolish, policy called debaathification than letting too many polish people come to the UK. "

What the fuck have the Poles got to do with islamification and the terrorism that goes with it.

I asked my polish builder and his son who rents a house from me, do you have any Muslims in Poland and they laughed in my face...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Government debt isnt a problem in the UK either, neither is American government debt, last time I looked were both selling our bonds with ease?.

Private debt is the problem, thats the debt the banks needed bailing out from and which we pushed alot of it from private bank account books to central Bank books.

This myth that the government needs belt tightening while at the same time private debt is being paid off is what caused the great depression of the 20s&30s.

How do you expand the money supply to create growth while both sectors of private and government contract?? Its impossible.

Now as we know it's a private debt problem, this means there are only two solutions.

We let private sector debt contract naturally!

We have a debt jubilee of one form or another!.

Now if we need to contract private debt then we surely must grow government debt to take up that slack?

You think the banks needed bailing out? "

.

Me personally?. No

I think capitalism is the best system we've come up with to date, not that it couldnt be better, just the best to date and as such capitalism should take place, the banks should have gone tits, and all the wealthy peoples money with it and all the poor peoples debt.. it was the perfect wealth redistribution

I think it would have been three years of absolute mess and then pure growth from then on.

Of course the wealthier people who have assets in the bank werent as keen as i

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate

As such it has no need to worry about Islamic terrorism, so there are bonuses in the principle

It's been quite a while since i read such an ignorant statement. The current islamic terrorism has a lot more to do with an arbitary, but foolish, policy called debaathification than letting too many polish people come to the UK.

What the fuck have the Poles got to do with islamification and the terrorism that goes with it.

I asked my polish builder and his son who rents a house from me, do you have any Muslims in Poland and they laughed in my face..."

Ok sorry i was confused, it's just that you conflated immigration with terrorism so i assumed you meant all immigrants. I didn't realise you were only prejudice against muslims. Just ignore what i said about polish people and you can still see from my statement why you are wrong.

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate.

Ah but its GDP per head has grown.

The country might not be wealthier but the people are, and as you say, they did all that without feeling the need for mass immigration"

Last time i checked the figures it was either flat or a small per head increase. Either way, the current valuations of assets require absolute growth, not just per head. That's one of the key reasons their stock market can't get back even close to 1989 values (i.e. future profits will be smaller than current ones for many companies as the population shrinks).

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Government debt isnt a problem in the UK either, neither is American government debt, last time I looked were both selling our bonds with ease?.

Private debt is the problem, thats the debt the banks needed bailing out from and which we pushed alot of it from private bank account books to central Bank books.

This myth that the government needs belt tightening while at the same time private debt is being paid off is what caused the great depression of the 20s&30s.

How do you expand the money supply to create growth while both sectors of private and government contract?? Its impossible.

Now as we know it's a private debt problem, this means there are only two solutions.

We let private sector debt contract naturally!

We have a debt jubilee of one form or another!.

Now if we need to contract private debt then we surely must grow government debt to take up that slack?

You think the banks needed bailing out? .

Me personally?. No

I think capitalism is the best system we've come up with to date, not that it couldnt be better, just the best to date and as such capitalism should take place, the banks should have gone tits, and all the wealthy peoples money with it and all the poor peoples debt.. it was the perfect wealth redistribution

I think it would have been three years of absolute mess and then pure growth from then on.

Of course the wealthier people who have assets in the bank werent as keen as i "

I agree very much with that analysis. Why the government felt a need to take on all that debt for dumb cunts like RBS is beyond me, you couldn't imagine a worse run business.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate.

Ah but its GDP per head has grown.

The country might not be wealthier but the people are, and as you say, they did all that without feeling the need for mass immigration

Last time i checked the figures it was either flat or a small per head increase. Either way, the current valuations of assets require absolute growth, not just per head. That's one of the key reasons their stock market can't get back even close to 1989 values (i.e. future profits will be smaller than current ones for many companies as the population shrinks)."

.

Well no it was a nice upward trend until the tsunami, its been trending downwards since thanks to that massive fuck up that is Fukushima which frankly will bankrupt Japan in the end (its at least a 100 year decommissioning job and the cost is just unbearably big).

The Nikkei which like most other stock markets is just a giant debt bubble gambling arena, if you look at it on a graph is a hockey stick from the 70s onwards, it was never ever sustainable, the interesting thing was the yen collapsed long before the Nikkei did, it tended downwards from the 70s onwards as the Nikkei went the other way, a bit like what we see today with brexit, its just the ups and downs of market capitalisation.

However the Japanese as with everybody else wasn't for letting those banks go tits

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate.

Ah but its GDP per head has grown.

The country might not be wealthier but the people are, and as you say, they did all that without feeling the need for mass immigration

Last time i checked the figures it was either flat or a small per head increase. Either way, the current valuations of assets require absolute growth, not just per head. That's one of the key reasons their stock market can't get back even close to 1989 values (i.e. future profits will be smaller than current ones for many companies as the population shrinks)..

Well no it was a nice upward trend until the tsunami, its been trending downwards since thanks to that massive fuck up that is Fukushima which frankly will bankrupt Japan in the end (its at least a 100 year decommissioning job and the cost is just unbearably big).

The Nikkei which like most other stock markets is just a giant debt bubble gambling arena, if you look at it on a graph is a hockey stick from the 70s onwards, it was never ever sustainable, the interesting thing was the yen collapsed long before the Nikkei did, it tended downwards from the 70s onwards as the Nikkei went the other way, a bit like what we see today with brexit, its just the ups and downs of market capitalisation.

However the Japanese as with everybody else wasn't for letting those banks go tits"

You're looking at GDP per capita in PPP as opposed to USD right? Two different stories

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its very hard to find historical analysis that isnt based in USD even analysis for the UK is based in USD, although I agree I'd prefer different options as the dollar goes up and down like a mainlanders knickers

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate

As such it has no need to worry about Islamic terrorism, so there are bonuses in the principle

It's been quite a while since i read such an ignorant statement. The current islamic terrorism has a lot more to do with an arbitary, but foolish, policy called debaathification than letting too many polish people come to the UK.

What the fuck have the Poles got to do with islamification and the terrorism that goes with it.

I asked my polish builder and his son who rents a house from me, do you have any Muslims in Poland and they laughed in my face...

Ok sorry i was confused, it's just that you conflated immigration with terrorism so i assumed you meant all immigrants. I didn't realise you were only prejudice against muslims. Just ignore what i said about polish people and you can still see from my statement why you are wrong. "

I find the Cypriots to be particularly nice race, good cooking, family values hard working and the best chippy owners by far

Now mate do you want salad and vinegar with your views

Legs open or wrapped

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"Ive just listened to the interview. Very entertaining. When Corbyn goes, I hope she becomes leader!

At least her grasp on maths is better than most Labour Chancellors has been

I don't, we're turning into Japan (where the same party has won 19 of the last 20 elections). .

Theres an interesting photo from the 50s of Abe's grandad playing golf with George Bush's grandad in new York.

Maybe the West (I include Japan) isnt quite as democratic as we think?

When i listen to Ed Milliband i started to think "hmmm Gordon wasn't that bad afterall". Then Jeremey came in and i thought "hmmm Ed wasn't that bad afterall". Dianne Abbott is possibly the only person in politics that could make me think Corbyn wasn't such a clusterfuck. Well her or Emily Thornberry. .

But shinzo abe has used labours over spending economics for 20 years!.

Yet hes seen as a master of government economic policy

Is he? I haven't heard anyone compliment japan on their stock market crashed in 1989, still hasn't recovered today.

But the West has completely replicated Japan's model for the debt bubble trap?.

It wasnt Japanese government debt that was the problem it was private debt and if we didnt think he was right then why the hell did we copy it?

Debt is relative to the size of the economy, Japan's problem is that it's econony doesn't grow because it has a shrinking population and won't allow immigration to compensate.

Ah but its GDP per head has grown.

The country might not be wealthier but the people are, and as you say, they did all that without feeling the need for mass immigration

Last time i checked the figures it was either flat or a small per head increase. Either way, the current valuations of assets require absolute growth, not just per head. That's one of the key reasons their stock market can't get back even close to 1989 values (i.e. future profits will be smaller than current ones for many companies as the population shrinks)..

Well no it was a nice upward trend until the tsunami, its been trending downwards since thanks to that massive fuck up that is Fukushima which frankly will bankrupt Japan in the end (its at least a 100 year decommissioning job and the cost is just unbearably big).

The Nikkei which like most other stock markets is just a giant debt bubble gambling arena, if you look at it on a graph is a hockey stick from the 70s onwards, it was never ever sustainable, the interesting thing was the yen collapsed long before the Nikkei did, it tended downwards from the 70s onwards as the Nikkei went the other way, a bit like what we see today with brexit, its just the ups and downs of market capitalisation.

However the Japanese as with everybody else wasn't for letting those banks go tits"

Bloody hell have the Japs heard about Brexit, it's fabulous for hanging negatives on, they should try it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

My god....we have wandered far from a Diane Abbott!

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"My god....we have wandered far from a Diane Abbott!"

Nobody rushed to defend her... make of that what you will

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"My god....we have wandered far from a Diane Abbott!"

Who wouldn't?

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By *oorland2 OP   Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"My god....we have wandered far from a Diane Abbott!

Who wouldn't? "

lol

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"

I agree very much with that analysis. Why the government felt a need to take on all that debt for dumb cunts like RBS is beyond me, you couldn't imagine a worse run business. "

If you have to ask that question then I worry about your economic understanding,the question should be why the hell were they allowed to get into that mess to start with. As a food producer I have to undergo rigerous checks to the smallest detail yet here we have a bank holding many many peoples life savings investing in ponzi schemes that only made dealers/brokers and bankers rich without any apparent oversight.

If they had been allowed to go bust most of the others would have been dragged down to

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By *y Favorite PornstarCouple  over a year ago

Basingstoke


"

I agree very much with that analysis. Why the government felt a need to take on all that debt for dumb cunts like RBS is beyond me, you couldn't imagine a worse run business.

If you have to ask that question then I worry about your economic understanding,the question should be why the hell were they allowed to get into that mess to start with. As a food producer I have to undergo rigerous checks to the smallest detail yet here we have a bank holding many many peoples life savings investing in ponzi schemes that only made dealers/brokers and bankers rich without any apparent oversight.

If they had been allowed to go bust most of the others would have been dragged down to"

Yes that's what they'd like you to believe. Personally i believe in capitalism. If your banks are going to be too big to fail then the government may as well own them so we get the profitable years and not just the losses please. If you want state-capitalism then just say it but personally i don't.

Lehman brothers folded without bringing the whole of america down with it. At the very least the government could have demanded the bank split into the investment arm and consumer, then let the investment arm sink into a cesspool. I know RBS rather well having worked with them in 2007 and I've never seen a more dysfunctional, toxic business in all my career.

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By *ubble troubleCouple  over a year ago

Manchester


"PMSL. the label of being an offended black who isn't treated equally or fairly"

I think this phrase tells us everything we need to know about your views on politics and race.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS  over a year ago

Central

I'd like to talk with her but I'm not so sure we'd get along like a house on fire

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"PMSL. the label of being an offended black who isn't treated equally or fairly

I think this phrase tells us everything we need to know about your views on politics and race."

Very true..

And not for the first time either

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