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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had  "
And a twat to boot, I thought you hated those who have shed blood in the name of the UK
He is the worse. Kind of twat...
He is a Lting self opionated twat who is hated by the vast majority of ex forces personnel for how he sold them out for his own ends |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had "
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
And a twat to boot, I thought you hated those who have shed blood in the name of the UK
He is the worse. Kind of twat...
He is a Lting self opionated twat who is hated by the vast majority of ex forces personnel for how he sold them out for his own ends"
Why do you think I hate veterans? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit."
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial? |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial? "
It was illegal on the same count as those who faced the Nuremburg Trials (not to equate their severity). They were charged with planning and waging an aggressive war. This is absolutely what Bush and Blair did.
There was flimsy evidence, unreliable sources, no UN approval. In that sense it was an aggressive and illegal act. |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial? "
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day."
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
It was illegal on the same count as those who faced the Nuremburg Trials (not to equate their severity). They were charged with planning and waging an aggressive war. This is absolutely what Bush and Blair did.
There was flimsy evidence, unreliable sources, no UN approval. In that sense it was an aggressive and illegal act. "
So which law did he break? Tell me specifically which act of parliament or international treaty he broke. |
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Any marginally sensible analysis of Blair would include the terms "independence of the monetary policy committee of the bank of england" and "policy of de-baathification".
Of course it's much easier to chant slogans and repeat bullshit. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"I didn't vote for him, but I'd take him over May. Everyone remembers him for the Iraq war, it overshadows the good he did for the jams"
He lied in order to take us to war, look at the repercussions of what he did, and the problems we now have in the Middle East.
He was wrong on immigration. Which arguably ultimately led to the EU referendum and divisions in our society.
He oversaw the cut-price sale of our gold reserves and the pensions debacle.
Oversaw a massive, massive increase in PFI in the NHS and education.
What he did for the JAMS? Gave us jam today and fucked up our tomorrows.
It's very easy to be a socialist when you're a multi-millionaire.
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"I didn't vote for him, but I'd take him over May. Everyone remembers him for the Iraq war, it overshadows the good he did for the jams
He lied in order to take us to war, look at the repercussions of what he did, and the problems we now have in the Middle East.
He was wrong on immigration. Which arguably ultimately led to the EU referendum and divisions in our society.
He oversaw the cut-price sale of our gold reserves and the pensions debacle.
Oversaw a massive, massive increase in PFI in the NHS and education.
What he did for the JAMS? Gave us jam today and fucked up our tomorrows.
It's very easy to be a socialist when you're a multi-millionaire.
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These are ridiculous analogies. You could walk back the failings of every post war prime minister (and beyond) to point out their failings and draw a conclusion to a subsequent even.
Not you, not me, not Politicians nor Prime Ministers have the ability to look into the future and always make correct decisions. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"I didn't vote for him, but I'd take him over May. Everyone remembers him for the Iraq war, it overshadows the good he did for the jams
He lied in order to take us to war, look at the repercussions of what he did, and the problems we now have in the Middle East.
He was wrong on immigration. Which arguably ultimately led to the EU referendum and divisions in our society.
He oversaw the cut-price sale of our gold reserves and the pensions debacle.
Oversaw a massive, massive increase in PFI in the NHS and education.
What he did for the JAMS? Gave us jam today and fucked up our tomorrows.
It's very easy to be a socialist when you're a multi-millionaire.
These are ridiculous analogies. You could walk back the failings of every post war prime minister (and beyond) to point out their failings and draw a conclusion to a subsequent even.
Not you, not me, not Politicians nor Prime Ministers have the ability to look into the future and always make correct decisions."
Where are the analogies?
I know we can't always make the right decisions, but he really made some stinkers, didn't he? And lying in order to take us to war? That's ok, is it?
And never knew there was such a thing as a Blair apologist. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Blair will never, ever face charges for the war as he broke NO LAWS at the time of the invasion.
Yes he breached a UN charter on which permits such force only in self-defence, ie when there is an imminent threat of an armed attack, or (less certainly in 2003) a case for humanitarian intervention. But a breach of the charter does not mean that those who lead it are guilty of a war crime – which must, like any other crime, be both clearly defined and justiciable by an available court.
At Nuremberg in 1946, the Nazi leaders were convicted of the crime of aggression as a “crime against peace”, and the waging of an “aggressive” war remained an international crime by the time of the Rome statute, which in 1998 set up the International Criminal Court, opening in 2002. But its jurisdiction to bring aggressors to justice was postponed.
Article 5 of the convention says that the court shall not “exercise jurisdiction over the crime of aggression” until member states agree on its modern definition. They did not agree until 2010, and then decided that offenders should not be prosecuted under it until further agreement in 2017.
So back in 2003 it wasn't a crime
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
It was illegal on the same count as those who faced the Nuremburg Trials (not to equate their severity). They were charged with planning and waging an aggressive war. This is absolutely what Bush and Blair did.
There was flimsy evidence, unreliable sources, no UN approval. In that sense it was an aggressive and illegal act. "
So by using the same analogy, should Anthony Eden have been classed as a war criminal? |
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"Blair will never, ever face charges for the war as he broke NO LAWS at the time of the invasion.
Yes he breached a UN charter on which permits such force only in self-defence, ie when there is an imminent threat of an armed attack, or (less certainly in 2003) a case for humanitarian intervention. But a breach of the charter does not mean that those who lead it are guilty of a war crime – which must, like any other crime, be both clearly defined and justiciable by an available court.
At Nuremberg in 1946, the Nazi leaders were convicted of the crime of aggression as a “crime against peace”, and the waging of an “aggressive” war remained an international crime by the time of the Rome statute, which in 1998 set up the International Criminal Court, opening in 2002. But its jurisdiction to bring aggressors to justice was postponed.
Article 5 of the convention says that the court shall not “exercise jurisdiction over the crime of aggression” until member states agree on its modern definition. They did not agree until 2010, and then decided that offenders should not be prosecuted under it until further agreement in 2017.
So back in 2003 it wasn't a crime
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Not only not a crime, but something any Conservative leader would have done exactly the same. |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had "
Doesn't really say much tho...... we're still clearing up the mess he left behind at home and abroad.
The current malaise in the NHS and education can be firmly dumped at his feet and his cronies raking in billions from his PFI hospital/schools building programmes and the crazy "maintenance" contracts they are tied into. |
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The trouble with Blair is he was a liberal..
And there the worst kind of idiot to be left in charge of wars!, give me a dangerous idiot or a delusional idiot but not both. |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
Doesn't really say much tho...... we're still clearing up the mess he left behind at home and abroad.
The current malaise in the NHS and education can be firmly dumped at his feet and his cronies raking in billions from his PFI hospital/schools building programmes and the crazy "maintenance" contracts they are tied into."
No chance, and for the above reasons |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial? "
Because he is a slimy teflon coated twat, to call him a snake would be doing a disservice to reptiles |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day."
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In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Because he is a slimy teflon coated twat, to call him a snake would be doing a disservice to reptiles"
Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really. |
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In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Because he is a slimy teflon coated twat, to call him a snake would be doing a disservice to reptiles
Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really."
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He wasn't Bush's "poodle" either!.
He was giving speeches in the US about middle East interventionisim before bush was even elected let alone 911!.
These are just common misconceptions the establishment like to push.
Blair was a fully paid up liberal war monger who thought killing a million Iraqis was just "collateral damage" for the greater good.
As long as history saw him as the great Tony who freed the downtrodden he really didnt give a shit who perished for that noble ideology! Does that ring any bells? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I'd have a talking donkey over May too...... but I'd have May over Corbyn far more readily. May only cones with Bozo Boris.....at least she's not joined at the hip to a Diane Abbott! |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Three election wins. One future visit to the Hague on a War Crimes count? We can hope."
I would not vote for him for many reasons but he is not a war criminal in any way,that is not one of his crimes of which there are many
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Because he is a slimy teflon coated twat, to call him a snake would be doing a disservice to reptiles
Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really."
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial? "
....Keep kissing the Devils arse. |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day.
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'."
He's not called Teflon Tony for nothing. But back to my original questions to you. As you haven't responded the assumption is you are proud of his two most notable acheivements.
What about 3rd most notable. Selling off the countries gold and leading us into the biggest financial meltdown in living memory. |
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In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Because he is a slimy teflon coated twat, to call him a snake would be doing a disservice to reptiles
Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really."
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day.
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'.
He's not called Teflon Tony for nothing. But back to my original questions to you. As you haven't responded the assumption is you are proud of his two most notable acheivements.
What about 3rd most notable. Selling off the countries gold and leading us into the biggest financial meltdown in living memory."
I think peace in Northern Ireland was his greatest achievement, independence of the MPC was pretty good as was tax credits/pension credit.
So are you able to tell us specifically which law he broke, or are you going to avoid and avoid and avoid as usual? |
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In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Because he is a slimy teflon coated twat, to call him a snake would be doing a disservice to reptiles
Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?"
Why don't you say something intelligent about what happened in Iraq? You'd be on much stronger footing. |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day.
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'.
He's not called Teflon Tony for nothing. But back to my original questions to you. As you haven't responded the assumption is you are proud of his two most notable acheivements.
What about 3rd most notable. Selling off the countries gold and leading us into the biggest financial meltdown in living memory.
I think peace in Northern Ireland was his greatest achievement, independence of the MPC was pretty good as was tax credits/pension credit.
So are you able to tell us specifically which law he broke, or are you going to avoid and avoid and avoid as usual? "
What was good about tax credits? |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day.
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'.
He's not called Teflon Tony for nothing. But back to my original questions to you. As you haven't responded the assumption is you are proud of his two most notable acheivements.
What about 3rd most notable. Selling off the countries gold and leading us into the biggest financial meltdown in living memory.
I think peace in Northern Ireland was his greatest achievement, independence of the MPC was pretty good as was tax credits/pension credit.
So are you able to tell us specifically which law he broke, or are you going to avoid and avoid and avoid as usual? "
MPC was "pretty good" are you kidding me? Easily the single most significant economic change of the past 20 years that raised the living standards of every single person in this country by stopping interest rates being subject the type of political football that routinely wrecks state schools and the NHS. |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day.
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'.
He's not called Teflon Tony for nothing. But back to my original questions to you. As you haven't responded the assumption is you are proud of his two most notable acheivements.
What about 3rd most notable. Selling off the countries gold and leading us into the biggest financial meltdown in living memory.
I think peace in Northern Ireland was his greatest achievement, independence of the MPC was pretty good as was tax credits/pension credit.
So are you able to tell us specifically which law he broke, or are you going to avoid and avoid and avoid as usual? "
Sorry Mr Pot but you will fi d I answered. So you are proud of what I consider his 3 most notable acheivements. Congratulations. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Because he is a slimy teflon coated twat, to call him a snake would be doing a disservice to reptiles
Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?
Why don't you say something intelligent about what happened in Iraq? You'd be on much stronger footing. "
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day.
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'.
He's not called Teflon Tony for nothing. But back to my original questions to you. As you haven't responded the assumption is you are proud of his two most notable acheivements.
What about 3rd most notable. Selling off the countries gold and leading us into the biggest financial meltdown in living memory.
I think peace in Northern Ireland was his greatest achievement, independence of the MPC was pretty good as was tax credits/pension credit.
So are you able to tell us specifically which law he broke, or are you going to avoid and avoid and avoid as usual?
Sorry Mr Pot but you will fi d I answered. So you are proud of what I consider his 3 most notable acheivements. Congratulations."
No, you haven't named a single law. |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day.
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'.
He's not called Teflon Tony for nothing. But back to my original questions to you. As you haven't responded the assumption is you are proud of his two most notable acheivements.
What about 3rd most notable. Selling off the countries gold and leading us into the biggest financial meltdown in living memory.
I think peace in Northern Ireland was his greatest achievement, independence of the MPC was pretty good as was tax credits/pension credit.
So are you able to tell us specifically which law he broke, or are you going to avoid and avoid and avoid as usual?
Sorry Mr Pot but you will fi d I answered. So you are proud of what I consider his 3 most notable acheivements. Congratulations.
No, you haven't named a single law."
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By *robertsCouple
over a year ago
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So he can sell us down the river again ?? Not a chance !!
The people of our great country took the chance of a lifetime last June because of selfish inept idiots like him at the helm !
I feel for shop floor lads that I have ever worked with who have lost their jobs to cheap labour for what he created .
He was always an EU "yes" man as was Cameron , at least we have a tough woman who will fight our corner at long last !!
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day.
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'.
He's not called Teflon Tony for nothing. But back to my original questions to you. As you haven't responded the assumption is you are proud of his two most notable acheivements.
What about 3rd most notable. Selling off the countries gold and leading us into the biggest financial meltdown in living memory.
I think peace in Northern Ireland was his greatest achievement, independence of the MPC was pretty good as was tax credits/pension credit.
So are you able to tell us specifically which law he broke, or are you going to avoid and avoid and avoid as usual?
Sorry Mr Pot but you will fi d I answered. So you are proud of what I consider his 3 most notable acheivements. Congratulations.
No, you haven't named a single law.
Try the UN Charter. Good to know you are proud of his numerous failings."
Breaching the UN charter back in 2003 wasn't punishable as a war crime, that's where you're getting mixed up. Breaching the charter wasn't a crime at all.
Hence no court case , no war crimes tribunal or fuck all. You have to break international laws in warfare to have war crimes charges brought against you funnily enough. |
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1. 'Above all the EEC takes away Britains freedom to follow the sort of economic policies we need' Tony Blair writing in his personal manifesto when standing for Parliament in Beaconsfield 1982
2. 'We'll negotiate a withdrawal from the EEC which has drained our natural resources and destroyed jobs'
Tony Blair when standing for Parliament in Sedgefield 1983
3. 'On the day we remember the legend that St. George slayed a dragon to protect England, some would argue that there is another dragon to be slayed - Europe'
Tony Blair in an interview in The Sun on St. Georges day 1997
4. 'I am a passionate pro-European, I always have been'
Tony Blair speaking to the EU Parliament in 2005
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"3 election wins, would you vote for him again to be Prime Minister instead of Theresa May?"
One word describes Tony Blair...scumbag.
I have several others that often spring to mind whenever anyone mentions that turd of a man's name too...they're brought into play whenever 'scumbag' is just too nice a description.
If I had just one wish, I'd use it to turn back the clock and make sure that Blair's father had condoms with him that fateful night. |
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In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Because he is a slimy teflon coated twat, to call him a snake would be doing a disservice to reptiles
Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?
Why don't you say something intelligent about what happened in Iraq? You'd be on much stronger footing.
So you don't know "
I've already mentioned it elsewhere on this thread. I'm interested in your analysis of why Iraq is still a failed state? |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
It was illegal on the same count as those who faced the Nuremburg Trials (not to equate their severity). They were charged with planning and waging an aggressive war. This is absolutely what Bush and Blair did.
There was flimsy evidence, unreliable sources, no UN approval. In that sense it was an aggressive and illegal act.
So which law did he break? Tell me specifically which act of parliament or international treaty he broke."
The UN Charter, Article 2, Clause 4. Very clearly breached as action took place outside of UN resolutions.
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Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?"
Why would anybody be "proud" about anything that's going to cost peoples lives.... what a silly question to type.
I think it was a total fucking disaster what happened second time round.
Saddam should of been overthrown during Gulf War 1 while we were part of the coalition.
What I am proud of is our service men & women that sign up to do what they are ordered to do even though they know it may cost them their lives in doing so. |
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
It was illegal on the same count as those who faced the Nuremburg Trials (not to equate their severity). They were charged with planning and waging an aggressive war. This is absolutely what Bush and Blair did.
There was flimsy evidence, unreliable sources, no UN approval. In that sense it was an aggressive and illegal act.
So which law did he break? Tell me specifically which act of parliament or international treaty he broke.
The UN Charter, Article 2, Clause 4. Very clearly breached as action took place outside of UN resolutions.
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Yes you are correct, Blair breached the Charter. I don't think many would argue against that.
Dosen't make Blair a war criminal though does it if the framework and modern definitions to enforce the breach as a war crime dosen't exist. |
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Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?
Why would anybody be "proud" about anything that's going to cost peoples lives.... what a silly question to type.
I think it was a total fucking disaster what happened second time round.
Saddam should of been overthrown during Gulf War 1 while we were part of the coalition.
What I am proud of is our service men & women that sign up to do what they are ordered to do even though they know it may cost them their lives in doing so."
To whom should we attribute responsibility for the "total fucking disaster"? |
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Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?
Why would anybody be "proud" about anything that's going to cost peoples lives.... what a silly question to type.
I think it was a total fucking disaster what happened second time round.
Saddam should of been overthrown during Gulf War 1 while we were part of the coalition.
What I am proud of is our service men & women that sign up to do what they are ordered to do even though they know it may cost them their lives in doing so.
To whom should we attribute responsibility for the "total fucking disaster"?"
Probably lots of people
The coalition hierarchy in Gulf War 1 for leaving Saddam in power for starters. If Saddam had been removed then the future cluster fuck probably wouldn't have happened. |
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He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?
Why would anybody be "proud" about anything that's going to cost peoples lives.... what a silly question to type.
I think it was a total fucking disaster what happened second time round.
Saddam should of been overthrown during Gulf War 1 while we were part of the coalition.
What I am proud of is our service men & women that sign up to do what they are ordered to do even though they know it may cost them their lives in doing so.
To whom should we attribute responsibility for the "total fucking disaster"?
Probably lots of people
The coalition hierarchy in Gulf War 1 for leaving Saddam in power for starters. If Saddam had been removed then the future cluster fuck probably wouldn't have happened."
I disagree with that analysis. But thank you for sharing it. |
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Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?
Why would anybody be "proud" about anything that's going to cost peoples lives.... what a silly question to type.
I think it was a total fucking disaster what happened second time round.
Saddam should of been overthrown during Gulf War 1 while we were part of the coalition.
What I am proud of is our service men & women that sign up to do what they are ordered to do even though they know it may cost them their lives in doing so."
So we are in patial agreement, Tony Blair created an absolute fuck up disaster in Iraq. Where we disagree is Saddam, he was a necessary evil who kept the country in check. |
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So we are in patial agreement, Tony Blair created an absolute fuck up disaster in Iraq. Where we disagree is Saddam, he was a necessary evil who kept the country in check."
Yes & no.
Yes saddam kept the country in check but if Iraq had been fully taken over after Gulf war 1 and broken up and ran by administrations from the coalition a little like Germany after WW2 then things could of been different.
It was the lack of plan of what the fuck to do after we and the US finished in GW2 that brought about the biggest problems.
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So we are in patial agreement, Tony Blair created an absolute fuck up disaster in Iraq. Where we disagree is Saddam, he was a necessary evil who kept the country in check.
Yes & no.
Yes saddam kept the country in check but if Iraq had been fully taken over after Gulf war 1 and broken up and ran by administrations from the coalition a little like Germany after WW2 then things could of been different.
It was the lack of plan of what the fuck to do after we and the US finished in GW2 that brought about the biggest problems.
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You mean like part of the British empire!!. |
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Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?
Why would anybody be "proud" about anything that's going to cost peoples lives.... what a silly question to type.
I think it was a total fucking disaster what happened second time round.
Saddam should of been overthrown during Gulf War 1 while we were part of the coalition.
What I am proud of is our service men & women that sign up to do what they are ordered to do even though they know it may cost them their lives in doing so.
So we are in patial agreement, Tony Blair created an absolute fuck up disaster in Iraq. Where we disagree is Saddam, he was a necessary evil who kept the country in check."
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Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?
Why would anybody be "proud" about anything that's going to cost peoples lives.... what a silly question to type.
I think it was a total fucking disaster what happened second time round.
Saddam should of been overthrown during Gulf War 1 while we were part of the coalition.
What I am proud of is our service men & women that sign up to do what they are ordered to do even though they know it may cost them their lives in doing so.
So we are in patial agreement, Tony Blair created an absolute fuck up disaster in Iraq. Where we disagree is Saddam, he was a necessary evil who kept the country in check."
The idea that Tony Blair was even powerful enough to create a fuck up disaster in Iraq betrays your grasp of its problems. A more accurate statement would be that he failed to prevent the a fuck up disaster in the reconstruction effort following a highly successful military invasion, which may or may not have been illegal depending on whether you want to delude yourself that international law even exists in high politics. |
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Lol
He hasn't stood trial because he has nothing to answer to legally.
Tony Blair broke no laws.
It may make spme people feel better bashing out on their keyboards that he's a War Criminal but since he isn't and it's so easy to research that he isn't then it makes them look a bit daft really.
So are you proud of what he did in taking us into Iraq?
Why would anybody be "proud" about anything that's going to cost peoples lives.... what a silly question to type.
I think it was a total fucking disaster what happened second time round.
Saddam should of been overthrown during Gulf War 1 while we were part of the coalition.
What I am proud of is our service men & women that sign up to do what they are ordered to do even though they know it may cost them their lives in doing so.
So we are in patial agreement, Tony Blair created an absolute fuck up disaster in Iraq. Where we disagree is Saddam, he was a necessary evil who kept the country in check.
The idea that Tony Blair was even powerful enough to create a fuck up disaster in Iraq betrays your grasp of its problems. A more accurate statement would be that he failed to prevent the a fuck up disaster in the reconstruction effort following a highly successful military invasion, which may or may not have been illegal"
That's exactly what i said
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Yes saddam kept the country in check but if Iraq had been fully taken over after Gulf war 1 and broken up and ran by administrations from the coalition a little like Germany after WW2 then things could of been different.
It was the lack of plan of what the fuck to do after we and the US finished in GW2 that brought about the biggest problems."
My grasp of the problems are just fine thanks.
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By *100Man
over a year ago
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He couldn't hack it last time and I can't believe were still having to suffer the prick, deserting pm's should be gagged and burried up to the neck ready for stoning for wasting our time and votes |
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"He couldn't hack it last time and I can't believe were still having to suffer the prick, deserting pm's should be gagged and burried up to the neck ready for stoning for wasting our time and votes "
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"Most successful leader Labour have ever had
So you're proud of his most notable acheivement; forcing us into an invasion he knew was illegal and has led to the increased unrest we see in the Middle East along with new forms of terroism never seen before?
Oh, then his 2nd most notable; selling the UK down the river with the EU for his own personal gain and quest. One which, ironically led to the disillusion of the majority who voted to leave the EU. So he indirectly caused Brexit.
In what way was it illegal? If it was, why hasn't he stood trial?
Try to keep up. Hope also remains that he will stand trial one day.
If he broke the law 14 years ago, what are they waiting for? I read your "try to keep up" as 'I actually have no idea which law I am claiming he has broken otherwise I would be able to state it'.
He's not called Teflon Tony for nothing. But back to my original questions to you. As you haven't responded the assumption is you are proud of his two most notable acheivements.
What about 3rd most notable. Selling off the countries gold and leading us into the biggest financial meltdown in living memory.
I think peace in Northern Ireland was his greatest achievement, independence of the MPC was pretty good as was tax credits/pension credit.
So are you able to tell us specifically which law he broke, or are you going to avoid and avoid and avoid as usual? "
The peace in NIreland was largely down to 5 years hard work by John Major (and of course the main parties in N Ireland).
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If it weren't for the Iraq thing he probably one of the most successful priministers ever. He did a fairly good job. There is something about the man I don't like. But give the bag of shit we have to chose from and his fairly good track record I would probably consider voting for him. |
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