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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

The outlook for the UK financial sector has improved since Brexit was triggered, the policy chief for the City of London Corporation has said.

Mark Boleat says London will remain a leading financial hub with only a few banking jobs likely to move.

Oh dear, whatever next

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Still it could been avoided and how much is a few?...few hundred..few thousand?

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Still it could been avoided and how much is a few?...few hundred..few thousand?"

Could have been avoided by not giving the people what they wanted? What a strange thought. And I would imagine a few means a relatively low number compared to the number that will remain in the City wouldn't you?

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Still it could been avoided and how much is a few?...few hundred..few thousand?

Could have been avoided by not giving the people what they wanted? What a strange thought. And I would imagine a few means a relatively low number compared to the number that will remain in the City wouldn't you?"

Are 'the people' getting what they wanted? Even if you only count the minority of people of the country that voted to leave the EU, it is blatantly clear that pretty much anything promised or even suggested by the leave campaign has been watered down, walked back, or just plain admitted to as unfeasible.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I am not sure what a brexitor is smoking to think it will be ok lol.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Still it could been avoided and how much is a few?...few hundred..few thousand?

Could have been avoided by not giving the people what they wanted? What a strange thought. And I would imagine a few means a relatively low number compared to the number that will remain in the City wouldn't you?

Are 'the people' getting what they wanted? Even if you only count the minority of people of the country that voted to leave the EU, it is blatantly clear that pretty much anything promised or even suggested by the leave campaign has been watered down, walked back, or just plain admitted to as unfeasible.

-Matt"

Nevermind eh

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"I am not sure what a brexitor is smoking to think it will be ok lol."

Fortuna

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Still it could been avoided and how much is a few?...few hundred..few thousand?

Could have been avoided by not giving the people what they wanted? What a strange thought. And I would imagine a few means a relatively low number compared to the number that will remain in the City wouldn't you?

Are 'the people' getting what they wanted? Even if you only count the minority of people of the country that voted to leave the EU, it is blatantly clear that pretty much anything promised or even suggested by the leave campaign has been watered down, walked back, or just plain admitted to as unfeasible.

-Matt

Nevermind eh"

'Nevermind' is what got us in this fucking mess in the first place.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"Still it could been avoided and how much is a few?...few hundred..few thousand?

Could have been avoided by not giving the people what they wanted? What a strange thought. And I would imagine a few means a relatively low number compared to the number that will remain in the City wouldn't you?

Are 'the people' getting what they wanted? Even if you only count the minority of people of the country that voted to leave the EU, it is blatantly clear that pretty much anything promised or even suggested by the leave campaign has been watered down, walked back, or just plain admitted to as unfeasible.

-Matt

Nevermind eh

'Nevermind' is what got us in this fucking mess in the first place.

-Matt"

What mess?

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"The outlook for the UK financial sector has improved since Brexit was triggered, the policy chief for the City of London Corporation has said.

Mark Boleat says London will remain a leading financial hub with only a few banking jobs likely to move.

Oh dear, whatever next "

A few.... just from lloyds and j p Morgan there are 2000 alone

Bottom line is that there WILL be job loses because of the loss of the European financial passport

If you really want to go down this rabbit hole and have an argument.. you are not going to be on the right end of it

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"The outlook for the UK financial sector has improved since Brexit was triggered, the policy chief for the City of London Corporation has said.

Mark Boleat says London will remain a leading financial hub with only a few banking jobs likely to move.

Oh dear, whatever next

A few.... just from lloyds and j p Morgan there are 2000 alone

Bottom line is that there WILL be job loses because of the loss of the European financial passport

If you really want to go down this rabbit hole and have an argument.. you are not going to be on the right end of it"

I take it you know more than Mark Boleat about what's going on? I'll go down this rabbit hole anytime and will be proved right. As usual

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"The outlook for the UK financial sector has improved since Brexit was triggered, the policy chief for the City of London Corporation has said.

Mark Boleat says London will remain a leading financial hub with only a few banking jobs likely to move.

Oh dear, whatever next "

Dam that I thought nearly 12 months ago we were told that we were all doomed if we voted to leave

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

So c and m... since you are the one quoting him, what would you consider to be a "few" jobs then?

Out or curiosity.....

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

..... because to me, it seem like to be gloating and crowing over less job loses when we know people will lose jobs is really unseemly at best, and brutally cut throat at worst...

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"The outlook for the UK financial sector has improved since Brexit was triggered, the policy chief for the City of London Corporation has said.

Mark Boleat says London will remain a leading financial hub with only a few banking jobs likely to move.

Oh dear, whatever next "

Dam that I thought nearly 12 months ago we were told that we were all doomed if we voted to leave

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"So c and m... since you are the one quoting him, what would you consider to be a "few" jobs then?

Out or curiosity....."

As I said above, I would consider it to be relatively low number compared to the number that will remain. Why would he have said few if the truth is a high or substantial number? Do you think he's mistaken, or lying? The 2000 figure you mention above, is that still speculation? Fear mongering? Actual numbers that will be lost? Or does it include extra jobs that will be created in the EU?

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"..... because to me, it seem like to be gloating and crowing over less job loses when we know people will lose jobs is really unseemly at best, and brutally cut throat at worst..."

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life"

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs "

How do you work out that people are crowing over job losses? If anybody is 'crowing' as you call it then it's because it seems like there won't be as many job losses as had been predicted by the doom mongers. Companies will adapt as they always have in an ever changing world

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs "

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

So I guess it's fine then for the people who want sovereignty ..to sacrifice there own fellow british citerzens jobs and future and that of their kids cuz you want the government to have exactly the same power they had before ?...now there is a choice for the Sovereign government to make its own rules and what dd the do ? Copy and paste the same fucking rules the brexiters didn't want ...so how is the people getting what they want?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

"

So who would help the farmers and agriculture to pick in the fields? I cant see any brits doing it lol.

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By *oxychick35Couple  over a year ago

thornaby

Why can't u see Brits do it ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Why can't u see Brits do it ?"
Well, there was a farming program on bbc1 and most of them said they dont work as hard as the ones from the slavic countries.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

So who would help the farmers and agriculture to pick in the fields? I cant see any brits doing it lol."

ffs

There are millions of jobs that will disappear over the next ten years to robots and automation

Is picking or not a few strawberries the fucking best you can come up with

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

There are over 700,000 jobs in Londons financial sector

While no one wants to see people lose their jobs this has to be put in context

Also when the crash came in 07/08 tens of thousands of jobs where lost

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ? "

Yes. And I will not apologise for voting to stay because as a result of the UK being successful and being able to easily work, trade and live in EU countries, I have done well. Because of the tolerant and inclusive society of the UK, I have done well.

I guess I could be happy that my pension pot has just grown £60,000 in under a year despite me not adding anything to it due to the FTSE 100 doing well due to the currency devaluation. But I'd rather the UK not take such a short term, destructive view.

The difference being that I would wager that a large proportion of the people who have 'not done well and wanted change' are not going to get any change to their benefit.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ?

Yes. And I will not apologise for voting to stay because as a result of the UK being successful and being able to easily work, trade and live in EU countries, I have done well. Because of the tolerant and inclusive society of the UK, I have done well.

I guess I could be happy that my pension pot has just grown £60,000 in under a year despite me not adding anything to it due to the FTSE 100 doing well due to the currency devaluation. But I'd rather the UK not take such a short term, destructive view.

The difference being that I would wager that a large proportion of the people who have 'not done well and wanted change' are not going to get any change to their benefit.

-Matt"

That remains to be seen. But if there's a chance, you take it don't you?

And myself and most people I know took a long term constructive view

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ?

Yes. And I will not apologise for voting to stay because as a result of the UK being successful and being able to easily work, trade and live in EU countries, I have done well. Because of the tolerant and inclusive society of the UK, I have done well.

I guess I could be happy that my pension pot has just grown £60,000 in under a year despite me not adding anything to it due to the FTSE 100 doing well due to the currency devaluation. But I'd rather the UK not take such a short term, destructive view.

The difference being that I would wager that a large proportion of the people who have 'not done well and wanted change' are not going to get any change to their benefit.

-Matt"

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Jesus, how much have you got in your pot for a 60k growth in one year?.

Thats like three years wages for me!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

And im making good money for Angelsey rates

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ?

Yes. And I will not apologise for voting to stay because as a result of the UK being successful and being able to easily work, trade and live in EU countries, I have done well. Because of the tolerant and inclusive society of the UK, I have done well.

I guess I could be happy that my pension pot has just grown £60,000 in under a year despite me not adding anything to it due to the FTSE 100 doing well due to the currency devaluation. But I'd rather the UK not take such a short term, destructive view.

The difference being that I would wager that a large proportion of the people who have 'not done well and wanted change' are not going to get any change to their benefit.

-Matt

That remains to be seen. But if there's a chance, you take it don't you?

And myself and most people I know took a long term constructive view "

Yes, there is a chance. And I really do hope for the sake of unity that May is able to get a deal that keeps everyone as happy as they can be. I'm aware it will be a compromise and that there will be certain things that both sides will be unhappy about. But as I've said before, the fact that as soon as the results were in the leave party were already backing down from what they'd campaigned on, means I think there will be more people disappointed than expected.

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ?

Yes. And I will not apologise for voting to stay because as a result of the UK being successful and being able to easily work, trade and live in EU countries, I have done well. Because of the tolerant and inclusive society of the UK, I have done well.

I guess I could be happy that my pension pot has just grown £60,000 in under a year despite me not adding anything to it due to the FTSE 100 doing well due to the currency devaluation. But I'd rather the UK not take such a short term, destructive view.

The difference being that I would wager that a large proportion of the people who have 'not done well and wanted change' are not going to get any change to their benefit.

-Matt.

Jesus, how much have you got in your pot for a 60k growth in one year?.

Thats like three years wages for me!"

I've put £60K in there over 3 years. Three lump sum payments of £20K. That was with my last job that ended just over two years ago. I didn't grow much in the few years, but the latest jump was about £60k. I thought I was reading the wrong column at first, but the amount I'd have if I cashed it in now would be about £140,000 it said. I guess that is not a growth just due to the FTSE as I guess that payout figure factors in what the govt add. I'm not a pensions expert... but as far as I know I think the govt effectively add in a tax rebate when you contribute.

I was very pleasantly surprised to say the least. That said, I'm not due to retire for almost another 30 years. We'll have blown the planet up by then!

-Matt

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By *isandreTV/TS  over a year ago

Durham

This is what Mark Boreat wrote in January and it was pretty much his position pre referendum.

'Brexit

And so on to Brexit - surely the biggest self-inflicted event that a British government has had to cope with for decades. Almost anything one says about Brexit can be deemed to be politically motivated and, as in war, truth seems to have been an early casualty of the Brexit debate. But I will begin with two solid facts –

Brexit will be very complex, particularly in legislative terms.

The long term outcome could vary from moderately favourable to highly damaging, depending on the outcome of the Brexit negotiations and the way the government chooses to use the new freedoms that it will have.

And perhaps I can add a third fact. Membership of the EU has been good for the financial services sector, and therefore for the country. The single market for financial services, incomplete as it is, and free movement of labour within the EU, have undoubtedly contributed to London’s growth as a financial centre. It has become the financial centre for the whole of Europe, serving government, corporates and individuals throughout the European Union and further afield. This has led to more jobs in Britain and a substantial tax contribution.

Some still do not seem to understand the relevance of the single market to London’s position, arguing for example that London’s huge assets as a financial centre will mean that business will still be done from there, and who wants to live in Frankfurt anyway? This is to miss the point. If Britain does not retain access to the single market it will not be possible in law to continue doing some business that is currently done from London. Passporting is a simple concept but seemingly one that is beyond the grasp of some. A bank authorised and regulated in the UK can do business throughout the whole of the EU without the need for authorisation in the other member states. The American investment banks do business in the EU not from New York but rather from businesses authorised, capitalised and managed in London. If they could not continue to do so then they would have to shift some – I stress some – business to the EU 27. It is also the case that London’s attractions, including being in the EU single market, have meant that over the years business that could have been done in London or New York or Hong Kong has been done in London. Britain being outside the EU would reduce the relative attractiveness of London and over time would likely lead to a shift of some business back to New York. There is now a general consensus that the financial centre that would gain most from Britain leaving the EU would be New York rather than Frankfurt or Paris.

It does not follow that Brexit will mean a reversal. If Britain can negotiate continued access to the single market for financial services together with maintaining a say in legislation and regulation, through an enhanced equivalence or modified passporting regime, and financial institutions can continue to employ talent from throughout the EU with just a modest increase in bureaucracy, then little will change for the worse and there may be opportunities to pursue policies that could make London even stronger as a financial centre. By contrast, if Britain leaves the EU in April 2019 with no deal thus falling back on WTO rules or with a deal that leaves Britain outside the single market for financial services with no more mitigation than a two year transition then the effect could be significantly adverse.

The consultants Oliver Wyman crunched the numbers in a report for TheCityUK. The best case scenario – where negotiations secure in practice trading rights with the EU similar to those which the UK currently has – would likely see an annual decline of £2 billion in revenues, £0.5 billion in tax revenue and 4,000 jobs. By contrast, under conditions where the UK moves to a third country arrangement with the EU, without any regulatory equivalence, and its relationship with the EU is defined by terms set out under the World Trade Organisation, up to 50% of EU-related activity (£20bn in revenue) and an estimated 35,000 jobs could be at risk, along with £5bn of tax revenues a year. However, there would also be a knock-on impact on the ecosystem, which could result in the loss from the UK of activities that operate alongside those parts of the business that leave, the shifting of entire business units, or the closure of lines of business due to increased costs. An estimated further £14-18 billion of revenue, 34-40,000 jobs and around £5 billion in tax revenue a year might be at risk.

So in broad terms a worst case scenario is 20 times worse than a best case scenario. And so another fact. The type of Brexit is more important than Brexit itself.'

There has been absolutely nothing to suggest, so far, that we will get a good deal done in time. About the only positive is that the Government have pretty much realised every single reason we were supposed to leave the EU for are bad ones and they are slowly backtracking. That is why Boleat is more upbeat, he can see we will keep EU legislation, be bound to the ECJ and in practical terms keep free movement not just of the EU citizens but also it seems relax the barriers to facilitate deals with India and Australia.

In short, if we implement the policies brexiters want, he hasn't changed his mind, but since the signs indicate we won't, he's more upbeat and it will only be a bit of a fuck up.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

If you guys wanted a change you should voted differently in the general election it's not the eu making budget cuts and raising taxes you got the Sovereign government to blame for that. If a immigrant can travel all the way from Poland and get a job here ..who is the blame for that ? The immigrant? The EU? The government? Or the British citizen who didn't get the job?

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

Barbados


"If you guys wanted a change you should voted differently in the general election it's not the eu making budget cuts and raising taxes you got the Sovereign government to blame for that. If a immigrant can travel all the way from Poland and get a job here ..who is the blame for that ? The immigrant? The EU? The government? Or the British citizen who didn't get the job?"

True. But to be fair, but regardless on how you voted in the general election the government are still fucking us over, for example the Conservatives stated in their manifesto:

"We are clear about what we want from Europe. We say: yes to the Single Market. Yes to turbocharging free trade. Yes to working together where we are stronger together than alone. Yes to a family of nation states, all part of a European Union – but whose interests, crucially, are guaranteed whether inside the Euro or out. No to ‘ever closer union.’ No to a constant flow of power to Brussels. No to unnecessary interference. And no, of course, to the Euro, to participation in Eurozone bail-outs or notions like a European Army"

So you might be forgiven for voting for them and thinking that they might keep us in the single market.

As said before the *one* positive of leaving the EU will be that there won't be a scapegoat to blame all our governments failings on any more.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I spent 5 days in abu dabi in 2015 and talking to any American expat she told me that expats and immigrants can only get the jobs that locals either cannot do or do not want and then when they get the job a local is assigned to them to train ...what's stopping the UK government from doing that ? Absolutely nothing !

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ?

Yes. And I will not apologise for voting to stay because as a result of the UK being successful and being able to easily work, trade and live in EU countries, I have done well. Because of the tolerant and inclusive society of the UK, I have done well.

I guess I could be happy that my pension pot has just grown £60,000 in under a year despite me not adding anything to it due to the FTSE 100 doing well due to the currency devaluation. But I'd rather the UK not take such a short term, destructive view.

The difference being that I would wager that a large proportion of the people who have 'not done well and wanted change' are not going to get any change to their benefit.

-Matt.

Jesus, how much have you got in your pot for a 60k growth in one year?.

Thats like three years wages for me!

I've put £60K in there over 3 years. Three lump sum payments of £20K. That was with my last job that ended just over two years ago. I didn't grow much in the few years, but the latest jump was about £60k. I thought I was reading the wrong column at first, but the amount I'd have if I cashed it in now would be about £140,000 it said. I guess that is not a growth just due to the FTSE as I guess that payout figure factors in what the govt add. I'm not a pensions expert... but as far as I know I think the govt effectively add in a tax rebate when you contribute.

I was very pleasantly surprised to say the least. That said, I'm not due to retire for almost another 30 years. We'll have blown the planet up by then!

-Matt"

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Sweet .

Although yes lol, your right its gonna be a rough ride till you get your hands on it

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And im making good money for Angelsey rates "

pay on angelsey and gwynedd is atrocious .... that and the sudden housing cost icreases were the deciding factors for my departure from gog-land .... the further from holyhead i have gone the more dramatic the wage increases have got .... gogs are tight and won't put their hand in their pocket when it comes to paying wages lol

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs "

Lost mine 3 years ago, didn't moan got on with it, set myself as a freelance trainer and I've never looked back

Lost a few jobs over the years, contracts come and go. Put up or shut up or move on...

I have a Simple adage never be stood on the deck waving at the life boats. Read what's going, if it's needed plan your exit and move on

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

How do you work out that people are crowing over job losses? If anybody is 'crowing' as you call it then it's because it seems like there won't be as many job losses as had been predicted by the doom mongers. Companies will adapt as they always have in an ever changing world"

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ? "

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

So who would help the farmers and agriculture to pick in the fields? I cant see any brits doing it lol. ffs

There are millions of jobs that will disappear over the next ten years to robots and automation

Is picking or not a few strawberries the fucking best you can come up with "

Always covert your strawberry farm to PYO

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ?

Yes. And I will not apologise for voting to stay because as a result of the UK being successful and being able to easily work, trade and live in EU countries, I have done well. Because of the tolerant and inclusive society of the UK, I have done well.

I guess I could be happy that my pension pot has just grown £60,000 in under a year despite me not adding anything to it due to the FTSE 100 doing well due to the currency devaluation. But I'd rather the UK not take such a short term, destructive view.

The difference being that I would wager that a large proportion of the people who have 'not done well and wanted change' are not going to get any change to their benefit.

-Matt.

Jesus, how much have you got in your pot for a 60k growth in one year?.

Thats like three years wages for me!"

I've not had this years statement yet, I hope mine have done good this year as 1 lost 4K

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"And im making good money for Angelsey rates

pay on angelsey and gwynedd is atrocious .... that and the sudden housing cost icreases were the deciding factors for my departure from gog-land .... the further from holyhead i have gone the more dramatic the wage increases have got .... gogs are tight and won't put their hand in their pocket when it comes to paying wages lol"

Dam nice beach triada bay

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"

Jobs are lost jobs are created, that's life

And if you are going to crow I truly hope you are not going to be one or know anyone of those who may lose theirs

No one wants job losses but it is the remainers than "crow" about any story that puts brexit in a bad light as justifiication of their desire to stay in the EU, many remainers voted to stay because they have done well out of it, well many people havent and wanted changes so who is being selfish ?

Yes. And I will not apologise for voting to stay because as a result of the UK being successful and being able to easily work, trade and live in EU countries, I have done well. Because of the tolerant and inclusive society of the UK, I have done well.

I guess I could be happy that my pension pot has just grown £60,000 in under a year despite me not adding anything to it due to the FTSE 100 doing well due to the currency devaluation. But I'd rather the UK not take such a short term, destructive view.

The difference being that I would wager that a large proportion of the people who have 'not done well and wanted change' are not going to get any change to their benefit.

-Matt.

Jesus, how much have you got in your pot for a 60k growth in one year?.

Thats like three years wages for me!

I've put £60K in there over 3 years. Three lump sum payments of £20K. That was with my last job that ended just over two years ago. I didn't grow much in the few years, but the latest jump was about £60k. I thought I was reading the wrong column at first, but the amount I'd have if I cashed it in now would be about £140,000 it said. I guess that is not a growth just due to the FTSE as I guess that payout figure factors in what the govt add. I'm not a pensions expert... but as far as I know I think the govt effectively add in a tax rebate when you contribute.

I was very pleasantly surprised to say the least. That said, I'm not due to retire for almost another 30 years. We'll have blown the planet up by then!

-Matt"

Pensions go up and down regardless of Brexit, as do shares. My father in law lost 30k on wedgewood shares, luckily it won't affect him. But lots of factors affect share price and pension pots. If it was simple to guess what would be winner over 30 years it would be nice.

The 1 true winner long term is property

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And im making good money for Angelsey rates

pay on angelsey and gwynedd is atrocious .... that and the sudden housing cost icreases were the deciding factors for my departure from gog-land .... the further from holyhead i have gone the more dramatic the wage increases have got .... gogs are tight and won't put their hand in their pocket when it comes to paying wages lol

Dam nice beach triada bay"

where the fuck is that?

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"And im making good money for Angelsey rates

pay on angelsey and gwynedd is atrocious .... that and the sudden housing cost icreases were the deciding factors for my departure from gog-land .... the further from holyhead i have gone the more dramatic the wage increases have got .... gogs are tight and won't put their hand in their pocket when it comes to paying wages lol

Dam nice beach triada bay

where the fuck is that?"

It's on fucking Anglesey, but I might have got the Welsh spelling fucking wrong, I'm fucking sure you will able to correct me.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"And im making good money for Angelsey rates

pay on angelsey and gwynedd is atrocious .... that and the sudden housing cost icreases were the deciding factors for my departure from gog-land .... the further from holyhead i have gone the more dramatic the wage increases have got .... gogs are tight and won't put their hand in their pocket when it comes to paying wages lol

Dam nice beach triada bay

where the fuck is that?

It's on fucking Anglesey, but I might have got the Welsh spelling fucking wrong, I'm fucking sure you will able to correct me."

if you're going to espouse the virtues of a united kingdom being "one nation" on these threads, then at least back up your cheap talk by learning to spell the place names in your own country correctly .... it ain't difficult .... and no i won't correct you. you can learn to use an online encyclopedia/dictionary to look up the spelling of words you're not familiar with, just like normal people do

and no need for quite so much swearing is there now?

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"And im making good money for Angelsey rates

pay on angelsey and gwynedd is atrocious .... that and the sudden housing cost icreases were the deciding factors for my departure from gog-land .... the further from holyhead i have gone the more dramatic the wage increases have got .... gogs are tight and won't put their hand in their pocket when it comes to paying wages lol

Dam nice beach triada bay

where the fuck is that?

It's on fucking Anglesey, but I might have got the Welsh spelling fucking wrong, I'm fucking sure you will able to correct me.

if you're going to espouse the virtues of a united kingdom being "one nation" on these threads, then at least back up your cheap talk by learning to spell the place names in your own country correctly .... it ain't difficult .... and no i won't correct you. you can learn to use an online encyclopedia/dictionary to look up the spelling of words you're not familiar with, just like normal people do

and no need for quite so much swearing is there now?"

Straight down the 55 turn left follow my nose, and I don't really care how it is spelt regardless of the union

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


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I don't really care how it is spelt regardless of the union"

speaks volumes about your defective attitude

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


"And im making good money for Angelsey rates

pay on angelsey and gwynedd is atrocious .... that and the sudden housing cost icreases were the deciding factors for my departure from gog-land .... the further from holyhead i have gone the more dramatic the wage increases have got .... gogs are tight and won't put their hand in their pocket when it comes to paying wages lol

Dam nice beach triada bay

where the fuck is that?

It's on fucking Anglesey, but I might have got the Welsh spelling fucking wrong, I'm fucking sure you will able to correct me.

if you're going to espouse the virtues of a united kingdom being "one nation" on these threads, then at least back up your cheap talk by learning to spell the place names in your own country correctly .... it ain't difficult .... and no i won't correct you. you can learn to use an online encyclopedia/dictionary to look up the spelling of words you're not familiar with, just like normal people do

and no need for quite so much swearing is there now?"

I've also never espoused the virtues of a United Kingdom, truthfully I think we should have an English parliament, just like the rest have their own parliament or assembly

I see no reason why we the English shouldn't have the same as the rest of you Scottish welsh Irish peeps

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


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I don't really care how it is spelt regardless of the union

speaks volumes about your defective attitude "

What ever

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By *avidnsa69Man  over a year ago

Essex


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I don't really care how it is spelt regardless of the union

speaks volumes about your defective attitude

What ever"

Trearddur Bay?

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By *oorland2Couple  over a year ago

Stoke


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I don't really care how it is spelt regardless of the union

speaks volumes about your defective attitude

What ever

Trearddur Bay?"

Yep that's the 1, dam nice beach and a good dive to be had in the cove

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