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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this. |
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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this."
. So ? |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"You "forgot" to report on the 500 plus hi-tech jobs to be created at the new Leicester Space Park science hub.
Jobs come and go, Brexit or no Brexit "
Or the 600 jobs created by Google in the UK since June last year. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
It's great that companies are still investing in the U.K. *despite* Brexit. It is a shame that some are leaving *because* of Brexit.
I have yet to see a report saying that a company is investing here *because* Brexit has made it more attractive to them.
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"You "forgot" to report on the 500 plus hi-tech jobs to be created at the new Leicester Space Park science hub.
Jobs come and go, Brexit or no Brexit
Or the 600 jobs created by Google in the UK since June last year."
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"You "forgot" to report on the 500 plus hi-tech jobs to be created at the new Leicester Space Park science hub.
Jobs come and go, Brexit or no Brexit "
So?... I believe this the required response.  |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
"You "forgot" to report on the 500 plus hi-tech jobs to be created at the new Leicester Space Park science hub.
Jobs come and go, Brexit or no Brexit
Or the 600 jobs created by Google in the UK since June last year."
It is no surprise that the depth of the importance of the news item is ignored in the predictable responses above.
A Google tech job or one in Leicester is always going to be good news. What you are predictably missing is just how unnecessary is the loss of influence that the UK will have in the future because of the departure of the EMA. Of course, no-one would reasonably expect a Brexiter to employ strategic thought when they can suggest that losing the EMA can be offset by google (or other) jobs. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Big companies move operations every few years to avoid paying more in tax  just like people who change service supplier because they can get a better deal for a time and then change to another one when the time suits them.
Big business is out for itself not the workers or the possible side effects, and when the time is right and the deal better elsewhere they will move again.
Brexit or no brexit! |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
A snacks company is shutting in the North East but Ryvita is opening a healthy snacks factory near Lincoln.
That's due to lifestyle choices affecting the market.
I want every single job that we can get in this country. Jobs create wealth and so on, and yes, lots of jobs will go abroad due to Brexit. It's now down to the people with vision to create other jobs to compensate. |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
"A snacks company is shutting in the North East but Ryvita is opening a healthy snacks factory near Lincoln.
That's due to lifestyle choices affecting the market.
I want every single job that we can get in this country. Jobs create wealth and so on, and yes, lots of jobs will go abroad due to Brexit. It's now down to the people with vision to create other jobs to compensate."
Interesting that "others" - namely the EU/foreigners/free movement etc were to blame for a perceived problem and different others will also have to be responsible for fixing it. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"A snacks company is shutting in the North East but Ryvita is opening a healthy snacks factory near Lincoln.
That's due to lifestyle choices affecting the market.
I want every single job that we can get in this country. Jobs create wealth and so on, and yes, lots of jobs will go abroad due to Brexit. It's now down to the people with vision to create other jobs to compensate.
Interesting that "others" - namely the EU/foreigners/free movement etc were to blame for a perceived problem and different others will also have to be responsible for fixing it."
I think you'll find it was Tony Blair's government that were to blame for allowing uncontrolled immigration, David Cameron's government responsible for the referendum , and it is Theresa May's government responsible for delivering Brexit. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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From the Office of National Statistics ;
Since May 2016, the month before the referendum:
Employment UP by 270,000
Full Time jobs UP by 220,000
Employment rate of 74.6%, the highest recorded since 1971
Unemployment at 4.7% the lowest since before the 1975 EU referendum
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"From the Office of National Statistics ;
Since May 2016, the month before the referendum:
Employment UP by 270,000
Full Time jobs UP by 220,000
Employment rate of 74.6%, the highest recorded since 1971
Unemployment at 4.7% the lowest since before the 1975 EU referendum
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We've not actually left yet.
Works both ways. Nothing has actually changed yet bar the signing of an article. The stats you posted are of a Britain still in the EU and single market.
It works both ways - we haven't left the EU and things havent gone to shit yet, but we are preparing to leave and things have not gone to shit yet. Well, things haven't gone from bad to worse yet.
Stop being trigger happy to make cheap points and start posting stats 6 months after we have the confirmed leaving arrangements, and 6 months after we actually leave.
Honestly you are being as petty as some on the die hard remainers on here by posting statistics lke that. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?"
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers? |
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over a year ago
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers? "
That's 98 people a day. Our local pub gets more visitors  |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
That's 98 people a day. Our local pub gets more visitors "
That's the kind of trolling response we have come to expect from you. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
That's 98 people a day. Our local pub gets more visitors
That's the kind of trolling response we have come to expect from you. "
That's not trolling, that is putting some perspective to your post |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
That's 98 people a day. Our local pub gets more visitors
That's the kind of trolling response we have come to expect from you.
That's not trolling, that is putting some perspective to your post"
It is trolling, would you local pub rather have 98 more people in his pub each day, or 98 fewer people in his pub every day?
Say those 98 stay in a hotel costing £100 a night, that's £9,800 a night that those hotels are going to lose isn't it? A lot of people will lose their jobs as the result of a loss of business like that. |
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over a year ago
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
That's 98 people a day. Our local pub gets more visitors
That's the kind of trolling response we have come to expect from you.
That's not trolling, that is putting some perspective to your post
It is trolling, would you local pub rather have 98 more people in his pub each day, or 98 fewer people in his pub every day?
Say those 98 stay in a hotel costing £100 a night, that's £9,800 a night that those hotels are going to lose isn't it? A lot of people will lose their jobs as the result of a loss of business like that. "
How old are you? 12? |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
North West |
"what does this agency do?"
That is the hub of the matter. It does not really have much to do with 900 people relocating but has everything to do with a loss of status, influence and control.
"The European Medicines Agency (EMA) is a decentralised agency of the European Union(EU), located in London. It began operating in 1995. The Agency is responsible for the scientific evaluation, supervision and safety monitoring of medicines developed by pharmaceutical companies for use in the EU.
EMA protects public and animal health in 28 EU Member States, as well as the countries of the European Economic Area, by ensuring that all medicines available on the EU market are safe, effective and of high quality." |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So basically it duplicates what national medical agencies do"
Does it? If your general knowledge level doesn't go deeper than superficial, then you might think that.
Suggest you investigate the difference between research and results implementation. |
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over a year ago
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"So basically it duplicates what national medical agencies do
Does it? If your general knowledge level doesn't go deeper than superficial, then you might think that.
Suggest you investigate the difference between research and results implementation."
Nah, I'll keep a superficial knowledge on this, it's a barrel scraping thread. It's getting harder all the time to find bad Brexit news isn't it |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"So basically it duplicates what national medical agencies do
Does it? If your general knowledge level doesn't go deeper than superficial, then you might think that.
Suggest you investigate the difference between research and results implementation.
Nah, I'll keep a superficial knowledge on this, it's a barrel scraping thread. It's getting harder all the time to find bad Brexit news isn't it"
Hardly! |
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"what does this agency do?
That is the hub of the matter. It does not really have much to do with 900 people relocating but has everything to do with a loss of status, influence and control.
"The European Medicines Agency (EMA) is a decentralised agency of the European Union(EU), located in London. It began operating in 1995. The Agency is responsible for the scientific evaluation, supervision and safety monitoring of medicines developed by pharmaceutical companies for use in the EU.
EMA protects public and animal health in 28 EU Member States, as well as the countries of the European Economic Area, by ensuring that all medicines available on the EU market are safe, effective and of high quality.""
I would have thought ALL EU based institutions would be leaving the UK by 2019 anyway. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"what does this agency do?
That is the hub of the matter. It does not really have much to do with 900 people relocating but has everything to do with a loss of status, influence and control.
"The European Medicines Agency (EMA) is a decentralised agency of the European Union(EU), located in London. It began operating in 1995. The Agency is responsible for the scientific evaluation, supervision and safety monitoring of medicines developed by pharmaceutical companies for use in the EU.
EMA protects public and animal health in 28 EU Member States, as well as the countries of the European Economic Area, by ensuring that all medicines available on the EU market are safe, effective and of high quality."
I would have thought ALL EU based institutions would be leaving the UK by 2019 anyway."
Not many are actually based in the UK, they are spread out across the different member states. This one was based in the UK. |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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"So basically it duplicates what national medical agencies do
Does it? If your general knowledge level doesn't go deeper than superficial, then you might think that.
Suggest you investigate the difference between research and results implementation.
Nah, I'll keep a superficial knowledge on this, it's a barrel scraping thread. It's getting harder all the time to find bad Brexit news isn't it"
Vote Leave was about "taking back control" was it not? About a better and brighter future outside of the EU and no requirement to adhere to "hated" EU legislation drafted by unelected bureaucrats. That is how I remember it anyway.
So the EMA is the front line on the safe testing (and safety testing) of all medicines and drugs that are destined for distribution in EU Member states. Their scientific findings underpin decisions made by NICE (in the Uk) and similar national bodies throughout the EU.
The Agency is currently located in London and the UK is influential in the steering of the EMA. Once it has left the UK and we have left the EU, the UK will need to either replicate a national body to do the same job (at what cost?) or will accept without having influence or steerage any decisions made by the EMA.
Losing the EMA is not about taking back control, it is about losing control of a great European scientific institution. It is not about a brighter and better future, unless you consider the loss of the prestigious symbol of European excellence to be a good thing. It will also not result in the need to ignore EU directives - in this instance related to medicines and drugs. The UK will just accept what the EMA have to say unless the UK decides to invest £billions in its own testing authority. |
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"So basically it duplicates what national medical agencies do
Does it? If your general knowledge level doesn't go deeper than superficial, then you might think that.
Suggest you investigate the difference between research and results implementation.
Nah, I'll keep a superficial knowledge on this, it's a barrel scraping thread. It's getting harder all the time to find bad Brexit news isn't it
Vote Leave was about "taking back control" was it not? About a better and brighter future outside of the EU and no requirement to adhere to "hated" EU legislation drafted by unelected bureaucrats. That is how I remember it anyway.
So the EMA is the front line on the safe testing (and safety testing) of all medicines and drugs that are destined for distribution in EU Member states. Their scientific findings underpin decisions made by NICE (in the Uk) and similar national bodies throughout the EU.
The Agency is currently located in London and the UK is influential in the steering of the EMA. Once it has left the UK and we have left the EU, the UK will need to either replicate a national body to do the same job (at what cost?) or will accept without having influence or steerage any decisions made by the EMA.
Losing the EMA is not about taking back control, it is about losing control of a great European scientific institution. It is not about a brighter and better future, unless you consider the loss of the prestigious symbol of European excellence to be a good thing. It will also not result in the need to ignore EU directives - in this instance related to medicines and drugs. The UK will just accept what the EMA have to say unless the UK decides to invest £billions in its own testing authority."
How did we cope before 1995? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So basically it duplicates what national medical agencies do
Does it? If your general knowledge level doesn't go deeper than superficial, then you might think that.
Suggest you investigate the difference between research and results implementation.
Nah, I'll keep a superficial knowledge on this, it's a barrel scraping thread. It's getting harder all the time to find bad Brexit news isn't it
Vote Leave was about "taking back control" was it not? About a better and brighter future outside of the EU and no requirement to adhere to "hated" EU legislation drafted by unelected bureaucrats. That is how I remember it anyway.
So the EMA is the front line on the safe testing (and safety testing) of all medicines and drugs that are destined for distribution in EU Member states. Their scientific findings underpin decisions made by NICE (in the Uk) and similar national bodies throughout the EU.
The Agency is currently located in London and the UK is influential in the steering of the EMA. Once it has left the UK and we have left the EU, the UK will need to either replicate a national body to do the same job (at what cost?) or will accept without having influence or steerage any decisions made by the EMA.
Losing the EMA is not about taking back control, it is about losing control of a great European scientific institution. It is not about a brighter and better future, unless you consider the loss of the prestigious symbol of European excellence to be a good thing. It will also not result in the need to ignore EU directives - in this instance related to medicines and drugs. The UK will just accept what the EMA have to say unless the UK decides to invest £billions in its own testing authority.
How did we cope before 1995?"
We "coped" during the blitz, we "coped" during the plague, doesn't mean we want those times back does it? |
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"So basically it duplicates what national medical agencies do
Does it? If your general knowledge level doesn't go deeper than superficial, then you might think that.
Suggest you investigate the difference between research and results implementation.
Nah, I'll keep a superficial knowledge on this, it's a barrel scraping thread. It's getting harder all the time to find bad Brexit news isn't it
Vote Leave was about "taking back control" was it not? About a better and brighter future outside of the EU and no requirement to adhere to "hated" EU legislation drafted by unelected bureaucrats. That is how I remember it anyway.
So the EMA is the front line on the safe testing (and safety testing) of all medicines and drugs that are destined for distribution in EU Member states. Their scientific findings underpin decisions made by NICE (in the Uk) and similar national bodies throughout the EU.
The Agency is currently located in London and the UK is influential in the steering of the EMA. Once it has left the UK and we have left the EU, the UK will need to either replicate a national body to do the same job (at what cost?) or will accept without having influence or steerage any decisions made by the EMA.
Losing the EMA is not about taking back control, it is about losing control of a great European scientific institution. It is not about a brighter and better future, unless you consider the loss of the prestigious symbol of European excellence to be a good thing. It will also not result in the need to ignore EU directives - in this instance related to medicines and drugs. The UK will just accept what the EMA have to say unless the UK decides to invest £billions in its own testing authority.
How did we cope before 1995?
We "coped" during the blitz, we "coped" during the plague, doesn't mean we want those times back does it? "
Well if this institution actually makes any money then I'm sure one will be set up in the UK, aren't you? |
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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".............
Well if this institution actually makes any money then I'm sure one will be set up in the UK, aren't you?"
Can we have a facepalm emoji?
This is EXACTLY what Brexiters were told before the referendum. This institution carries a huge cost because it is a research facility. Its loss will mean that the UK will either have to set up its own (without the scale of economy that the EMA has) or pay for the research being done by the EMA without any UK input. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"So basically it duplicates what national medical agencies do
Does it? If your general knowledge level doesn't go deeper than superficial, then you might think that.
Suggest you investigate the difference between research and results implementation.
Nah, I'll keep a superficial knowledge on this, it's a barrel scraping thread. It's getting harder all the time to find bad Brexit news isn't it
Vote Leave was about "taking back control" was it not? About a better and brighter future outside of the EU and no requirement to adhere to "hated" EU legislation drafted by unelected bureaucrats. That is how I remember it anyway.
So the EMA is the front line on the safe testing (and safety testing) of all medicines and drugs that are destined for distribution in EU Member states. Their scientific findings underpin decisions made by NICE (in the Uk) and similar national bodies throughout the EU.
The Agency is currently located in London and the UK is influential in the steering of the EMA. Once it has left the UK and we have left the EU, the UK will need to either replicate a national body to do the same job (at what cost?) or will accept without having influence or steerage any decisions made by the EMA.
Losing the EMA is not about taking back control, it is about losing control of a great European scientific institution. It is not about a brighter and better future, unless you consider the loss of the prestigious symbol of European excellence to be a good thing. It will also not result in the need to ignore EU directives - in this instance related to medicines and drugs. The UK will just accept what the EMA have to say unless the UK decides to invest £billions in its own testing authority.
How did we cope before 1995?
We "coped" during the blitz, we "coped" during the plague, doesn't mean we want those times back does it? "
And there we have it - confirmation that remainers still believe in project fear and that the likes of the blitz and the plague are on their way back becasue we're leaving the EU! |
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".............
Well if this institution actually makes any money then I'm sure one will be set up in the UK, aren't you?
Can we have a facepalm emoji?
This is EXACTLY what Brexiters were told before the referendum. This institution carries a huge cost because it is a research facility. Its loss will mean that the UK will either have to set up its own (without the scale of economy that the EMA has) or pay for the research being done by the EMA without any UK input."
I've just checked and there is no mention of the EMA doing any research and 89% of that £300 million budget you mentioned comes from fees and charges to companies who want to bring things to market |
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Losing the EMA is not about taking back control, it is about losing control of a great European scientific institution. It is not about a brighter and better future, unless you consider the loss of the prestigious symbol of European excellence to be a good thing. It will also not result in the need to ignore EU directives - in this instance related to medicines and drugs. The UK will just accept what the EMA have to say unless the UK decides to invest £billions in its own testing authority."
The UK doesn't control the EMA. It is based here and is an EU institution. No EU institution is supposed to be controlled by the country it happens to have offices in. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
".............
Well if this institution actually makes any money then I'm sure one will be set up in the UK, aren't you?
Can we have a facepalm emoji?
This is EXACTLY what Brexiters were told before the referendum. This institution carries a huge cost because it is a research facility. Its loss will mean that the UK will either have to set up its own (without the scale of economy that the EMA has) or pay for the research being done by the EMA without any UK input."
I know, it's pointless discussing things with people who are both unapologetically ignorant of the issues at hand, and are unwilling to educate themselves about the issues.
Like I said, if it was steel worker jobs they would be singing a very different tune. |
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"Steel works jobs went in teeside a few yrs back 2000 of them another 1000 related to them and it was devastating to the area shud I try pin that on brexit aswell
Why would you do that?
-Matt"
The Tories pinned it on the EU, which was bullshit. |
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Well if this institution actually makes any money then I'm sure one will be set up in the UK, aren't you?
Can we have a facepalm emoji?
This is EXACTLY what Brexiters were told before the referendum. This institution carries a huge cost because it is a research facility. Its loss will mean that the UK will either have to set up its own (without the scale of economy that the EMA has) or pay for the research being done by the EMA without any UK input.
I know, it's pointless discussing things with people who are both unapologetically ignorant of the issues at hand, and are unwilling to educate themselves about the issues.
Like I said, if it was steel worker jobs they would be singing a very different tune."
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By *oo hot OP Couple
over a year ago
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".............
Well if this institution actually makes any money then I'm sure one will be set up in the UK, aren't you?
Can we have a facepalm emoji?
This is EXACTLY what Brexiters were told before the referendum. This institution carries a huge cost because it is a research facility. Its loss will mean that the UK will either have to set up its own (without the scale of economy that the EMA has) or pay for the research being done by the EMA without any UK input.
I know, it's pointless discussing things with people who are both unapologetically ignorant of the issues at hand, and are unwilling to educate themselves about the issues.
Like I said, if it was steel worker jobs they would be singing a very different tune.
So would you like to educate me on exactly what the EMA does and how it is funded?"
Just go on their website and educate yourself. Stop being a Brexiter and needing to be spoon fed.
Whilst you are there, you could even send them a good riddance message as you see them as a completely pointless agency. |
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So would you like to educate me on exactly what the EMA does and how it is funded?
Just go on their website and educate yourself. Stop being a Brexiter and needing to be spoon fed.
Whilst you are there, you could even send them a good riddance message as you see them as a completely pointless agency."
They approve drugs after the drug companies have developed and tested them. In the UK the MHRA, part of the Department of Health, do exactly the same thing. They have 1200 employees in the UK.
Why such vitriol? Is it necessary? |
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"You "forgot" to report on the 500 plus hi-tech jobs to be created at the new Leicester Space Park science hub.
Jobs come and go, Brexit or no Brexit "
The huge difference is that the jobs in Leicester are not because of Brexit whereas the loss of the EMA is exactly because of Brexit. We could have had the new jobs and retained EMA if we hadnt decided on suicide last June |
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".............
Well if this institution actually makes any money then I'm sure one will be set up in the UK, aren't you?
Can we have a facepalm emoji?
This is EXACTLY what Brexiters were told before the referendum. This institution carries a huge cost because it is a research facility. Its loss will mean that the UK will either have to set up its own (without the scale of economy that the EMA has) or pay for the research being done by the EMA without any UK input.
I know, it's pointless discussing things with people who are both unapologetically ignorant of the issues at hand, and are unwilling to educate themselves about the issues.
Like I said, if it was steel worker jobs they would be singing a very different tune.
So would you like to educate me on exactly what the EMA does and how it is funded?
Just go on their website and educate yourself. Stop being a Brexiter and needing to be spoon fed.
Whilst you are there, you could even send them a good riddance message as you see them as a completely pointless agency."
I had already been on. CLCC obviously hadn't else he wouldn't have accused me of ignorance.
And actually even though you started this thread it seems that you know very little about them and what they do either |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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".............
Well if this institution actually makes any money then I'm sure one will be set up in the UK, aren't you?
Can we have a facepalm emoji?
This is EXACTLY what Brexiters were told before the referendum. This institution carries a huge cost because it is a research facility. Its loss will mean that the UK will either have to set up its own (without the scale of economy that the EMA has) or pay for the research being done by the EMA without any UK input.
I know, it's pointless discussing things with people who are both unapologetically ignorant of the issues at hand, and are unwilling to educate themselves about the issues.
Like I said, if it was steel worker jobs they would be singing a very different tune.
So would you like to educate me on exactly what the EMA does and how it is funded?
Just go on their website and educate yourself. Stop being a Brexiter and needing to be spoon fed.
Whilst you are there, you could even send them a good riddance message as you see them as a completely pointless agency.
I had already been on. CLCC obviously hadn't else he wouldn't have accused me of ignorance.
And actually even though you started this thread it seems that you know very little about them and what they do either"
You have quoted your own posts which show you can't even decide if it makes money or costs money! |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
".............
Well if this institution actually makes any money then I'm sure one will be set up in the UK, aren't you?
Can we have a facepalm emoji?
This is EXACTLY what Brexiters were told before the referendum. This institution carries a huge cost because it is a research facility. Its loss will mean that the UK will either have to set up its own (without the scale of economy that the EMA has) or pay for the research being done by the EMA without any UK input.
I know, it's pointless discussing things with people who are both unapologetically ignorant of the issues at hand, and are unwilling to educate themselves about the issues.
Like I said, if it was steel worker jobs they would be singing a very different tune.
So would you like to educate me on exactly what the EMA does and how it is funded?
Just go on their website and educate yourself. Stop being a Brexiter and needing to be spoon fed.
Whilst you are there, you could even send them a good riddance message as you see them as a completely pointless agency.
I had already been on. CLCC obviously hadn't else he wouldn't have accused me of ignorance.
And actually even though you started this thread it seems that you know very little about them and what they do either
You have quoted your own posts which show you can't even decide if it makes money or costs money! "
I guess you are still trying to figure it out. |
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"From the Office of National Statistics ;
Since May 2016, the month before the referendum:
Employment UP by 270,000
Full Time jobs UP by 220,000
Employment rate of 74.6%, the highest recorded since 1971
Unemployment at 4.7% the lowest since before the 1975 EU referendum
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Figures can and will be fiddled. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"From the Office of National Statistics ;
Since May 2016, the month before the referendum:
Employment UP by 270,000
Full Time jobs UP by 220,000
Employment rate of 74.6%, the highest recorded since 1971
Unemployment at 4.7% the lowest since before the 1975 EU referendum
Figures can and will be fiddled. "
Yes, indeed, by both sides. Project Fear was riddled with fiddled figures, scaremongering lies, and false predictions. |
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"I feel for ClCC and _oo hot... Banging your heads against a brick wall of spite and ignorance CLCC do that regularly,can't help feeling they are a bit thick to be honest "
Warmski with a perfect illustration of the dunning-Kruger effect |
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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago
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"I feel for ClCC and _oo hot... Banging your heads against a brick wall of spite and ignorance CLCC do that regularly,can't help feeling they are a bit thick to be honest
Warmski with a perfect illustration of the dunning-Kruger effect "
your spellings not so clever remoaner |
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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago
lytham st.annes |
"I feel for ClCC and _oo hot... Banging your heads against a brick wall of spite and ignorance CLCC do that regularly,can't help feeling they are a bit thick to be honest
Warmski with a perfect illustration of the dunning-Kruger effect "
Are they your HRT tablets |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"I feel for ClCC and _oo hot... Banging your heads against a brick wall of spite and ignorance CLCC do that regularly,can't help feeling they are a bit thick to be honest "
You know he's calling you spiteful and ignorant, right? |
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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago
lytham st.annes |
"I feel for ClCC and _oo hot... Banging your heads against a brick wall of spite and ignorance CLCC do that regularly,can't help feeling they are a bit thick to be honest
He,s calling you mate not me
You know he's calling you spiteful and ignorant, right? "
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"I feel for ClCC and _oo hot... Banging your heads against a brick wall of spite and ignorance CLCC do that regularly,can't help feeling they are a bit thick to be honest
Warmski with a perfect illustration of the dunning-Kruger effect "
Lol.
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I feel for ClCC and _oo hot... Banging your heads against a brick wall of spite and ignorance .
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CLCC do that regularly,can't help feeling they are a bit thick to be honest "
That has got to be the funniest misunderstood response I've read on here for some time |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet? "
Well done for showing yourself |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself "
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"I feel for ClCC and _oo hot... Banging your heads against a brick wall of spite and ignorance CLCC do that regularly,can't help feeling they are a bit thick to be honest
He,s calling you mate not me
You know he's calling you spiteful and ignorant, right? "
I love the way you call me thick, yet you cant even figure out how to use the reply and quote button.
Also, transphobic comments like the one you made above are not welcome on this forum. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it? "
Maybe you should read the thread again and this time try to comprehend what is written before asking any more stupid questions |
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"I feel for ClCC and _oo hot... Banging your heads against a brick wall of spite and ignorance CLCC do that regularly,can't help feeling they are a bit thick to be honest
Warmski with a perfect illustration of the dunning-Kruger effect "
Ha! priceless! |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it?
Maybe you should read the thread again and this time try to comprehend what is written before asking any more stupid questions"
So you are incapable of answering this very simple question? |
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it?
Maybe you should read the thread again and this time try to comprehend what is written before asking any more stupid questions
So you are incapable of answering this very simple question? "
Read it!! Where have I said it makes a profit? I asked the question. And I said 89% of EMA funding comes from charges to companies who want to bring things to the market. So what the fuck is this simple question exactly?? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it?
Maybe you should read the thread again and this time try to comprehend what is written before asking any more stupid questions
So you are incapable of answering this very simple question?
Read it!! Where have I said it makes a profit? I asked the question. And I said 89% of EMA funding comes from charges to companies who want to bring things to the market. So what the fuck is this simple question exactly??"
You implied we should keep it if it makes a profit.
I love the way you think something is only worthwhile if it makes a profit. Should we get rid of the department for education, that doesn't make a profit? How about the ministry of defence? Should we scrap that too? You know that department of health has never turned a profit either! |
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it?
Maybe you should read the thread again and this time try to comprehend what is written before asking any more stupid questions
So you are incapable of answering this very simple question?
Read it!! Where have I said it makes a profit? I asked the question. And I said 89% of EMA funding comes from charges to companies who want to bring things to the market. So what the fuck is this simple question exactly??
You implied we should keep it if it makes a profit.
I love the way you think something is only worthwhile if it makes a profit. Should we get rid of the department for education, that doesn't make a profit? How about the ministry of defence? Should we scrap that too? You know that department of health has never turned a profit either!"
Oh so I didn't say it made a profit now, I just implied it.
No I did not. I simply asked if it made a profit and if so wouldn't it then be a possibility that someone would set up a similar agency. But nice try on twisting things as usual |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it?
Maybe you should read the thread again and this time try to comprehend what is written before asking any more stupid questions
So you are incapable of answering this very simple question?
Read it!! Where have I said it makes a profit? I asked the question. And I said 89% of EMA funding comes from charges to companies who want to bring things to the market. So what the fuck is this simple question exactly??
You implied we should keep it if it makes a profit.
I love the way you think something is only worthwhile if it makes a profit. Should we get rid of the department for education, that doesn't make a profit? How about the ministry of defence? Should we scrap that too? You know that department of health has never turned a profit either!
Oh so I didn't say it made a profit now, I just implied it.
No I did not. I simply asked if it made a profit and if so wouldn't it then be a possibility that someone would set up a similar agency. But nice try on twisting things as usual"
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it?
Maybe you should read the thread again and this time try to comprehend what is written before asking any more stupid questions
So you are incapable of answering this very simple question?
Read it!! Where have I said it makes a profit? I asked the question. And I said 89% of EMA funding comes from charges to companies who want to bring things to the market. So what the fuck is this simple question exactly??
You implied we should keep it if it makes a profit.
I love the way you think something is only worthwhile if it makes a profit. Should we get rid of the department for education, that doesn't make a profit? How about the ministry of defence? Should we scrap that too? You know that department of health has never turned a profit either!
Oh so I didn't say it made a profit now, I just implied it.
No I did not. I simply asked if it made a profit and if so wouldn't it then be a possibility that someone would set up a similar agency. But nice try on twisting things as usual
So government agencies have to make a profit to be valuable? "
Maybe ask the MRHA |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it?
Maybe you should read the thread again and this time try to comprehend what is written before asking any more stupid questions
So you are incapable of answering this very simple question?
Read it!! Where have I said it makes a profit? I asked the question. And I said 89% of EMA funding comes from charges to companies who want to bring things to the market. So what the fuck is this simple question exactly??
You implied we should keep it if it makes a profit.
I love the way you think something is only worthwhile if it makes a profit. Should we get rid of the department for education, that doesn't make a profit? How about the ministry of defence? Should we scrap that too? You know that department of health has never turned a profit either!
Oh so I didn't say it made a profit now, I just implied it.
No I did not. I simply asked if it made a profit and if so wouldn't it then be a possibility that someone would set up a similar agency. But nice try on twisting things as usual
So government agencies have to make a profit to be valuable?
Maybe ask the MRHA"
Because it's yet another question that's too tough for you to answer? |
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"Go through this thread and find the spiteful and ignorant. It aint hard
Have you decided if the EMA costs money or makes money yet?
Well done for showing yourself
You said you are not ignorant about the EMA, yet some of your posts have said it's funded, and others that it makes a profit, so which is it?
Maybe you should read the thread again and this time try to comprehend what is written before asking any more stupid questions
So you are incapable of answering this very simple question?
Read it!! Where have I said it makes a profit? I asked the question. And I said 89% of EMA funding comes from charges to companies who want to bring things to the market. So what the fuck is this simple question exactly??
You implied we should keep it if it makes a profit.
I love the way you think something is only worthwhile if it makes a profit. Should we get rid of the department for education, that doesn't make a profit? How about the ministry of defence? Should we scrap that too? You know that department of health has never turned a profit either!
Oh so I didn't say it made a profit now, I just implied it.
No I did not. I simply asked if it made a profit and if so wouldn't it then be a possibility that someone would set up a similar agency. But nice try on twisting things as usual
So government agencies have to make a profit to be valuable?
Maybe ask the MRHA
Because it's yet another question that's too tough for you to answer?"
Why, what was the other? You never answered my question about what the EMA does or how it is funded did you? You are as ignorant of it as the original poster. As you are on most of the threads, quick look at google and suddenly you're the worlds foremost expert. You never answered my other question either - how old are you? 12? |
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers? "
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power |
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over a year ago
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power"
You aren't bothered by these people losing their jobs. You care if some people lose their jobs, but not others. |
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power
You aren't bothered by these people losing their jobs. You care if some people lose their jobs, but not others. "
Nobody really cared or helped me when I've lost jobs in past, only a few close peeps care help and assist
Yeah it's not great loosing a job, but hey life ain't fair
Only the dead fish swim upstream |
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over a year ago
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power
You aren't bothered by these people losing their jobs. You care if some people lose their jobs, but not others.
Nobody really cared or helped me when I've lost jobs in past, only a few close peeps care help and assist
Yeah it's not great loosing a job, but hey life ain't fair
Only the dead fish swim upstream"
You complain about pot banks closing, because you think those people are like you. You don't care when bankers lose their jobs, or scientists lose their jobs because you think they're not like you. |
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power
You aren't bothered by these people losing their jobs. You care if some people lose their jobs, but not others. "
As for hoteliers and taxi drivers in London, you will be very hard pressed to find a member of staff or taxi driver who isn't relatively new to the UK. And as you have said many times before, EU nationals are desperate to return to their birth country because of racism, xenophobic behaviour and the poor exchange rate. So if a few of these have to return home, it's not really a loss
And just how many hoteliers be forced to close trim back etc, I can't imagine it will be any and as for trying to get a taxi in London this can only help |
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power
You aren't bothered by these people losing their jobs. You care if some people lose their jobs, but not others.
Nobody really cared or helped me when I've lost jobs in past, only a few close peeps care help and assist
Yeah it's not great loosing a job, but hey life ain't fair
Only the dead fish swim upstream
You complain about pot banks closing, because you think those people are like you. You don't care when bankers lose their jobs, or scientists lose their jobs because you think they're not like you."
Nope I'm not like them, I've only ever went to work with my dad on a Sunday and helped him with the kilns, stacking and unloading ware. Did a bit of maintenance work on the pots as kid, but not really worked there a great deal
But yeah stoke use to thrive, but like lots of industry it went. We need to move on, regenerate re-invent, its the natural way |
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power"
Something like 27,000 jobs lost I think, a large number on Labours watch. What was annoying was Tristram Hunt saying we needed to stay in the EU to protect jobs in Stoke  . Err a bit late old fruit |
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power
Something like 27,000 jobs lost I think, a large number on Labours watch. What was annoying was Tristram Hunt saying we needed to stay in the EU to protect jobs in Stoke . Err a bit late old fruit"
Argh yes the wonderful Tristram Hunt, a middle class elitist Labour politician, parachuted in o a safe labour seat. If it wasn't for Stoke having a stop on the Virgin west coast maniline, he wouldn't have been able to find it
Only time he ever appeared in Stoke, was when there was a photo opertunity for him to attend. He showed his true colours when the opertunity to be the head of the VA came up, he ditched Stoke, the very place he said he cared about, to further his own personal desires. Labour have used and abused stoke for over 50 years, but we still have far too many people in this city who continue to support this corrupt and self serving party. |
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power
You aren't bothered by these people losing their jobs. You care if some people lose their jobs, but not others.
Nobody really cared or helped me when I've lost jobs in past, only a few close peeps care help and assist
Yeah it's not great loosing a job, but hey life ain't fair
Only the dead fish swim upstream
You complain about pot banks closing, because you think those people are like you. You don't care when bankers lose their jobs, or scientists lose their jobs because you think they're not like you."
Oh yeah we also lost Shelton bar in stoke, when steel virus took over British Steel, and all of the coal mines went after Scargill used his troops to end the coal industry, because he had a personal axe to grind with the conservative government. If Joe Girmley had still been leader the pits would have lasted much longer |
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"The European Medicines Agency is preparing to depart London, along with its 900 staff €300M+ budget and 36,000 associated incoming scientific visits to the centre every year.
Britains position in the scientific world is about to get a little bit smaller along with our ability to be at the heart of EU wide medicinal drug policy. We will however still be buying the drugs and adhering to the regulations that we once had a hand in forming, but in future our role will be just buyer and adherer.
This outcome is probably meaningless to the typical Brexiter who view any kind of expert with disdain but really this is a very big deal. The country will not be bigger, better, more powerful or more in control because of this.. So ?
Why don't you care about these 900 people either losing their jobs or having to leave the country?
Would you say the same thing if it was coal miners, steel workers, or car manufacturers losing their jobs? I'm guessing you wouldn't.
Or if there are 36,000 visitor to the centre, how will local hoteliers, restaurant owners and workers, taxi drivers etc. feel about the loss of these customers?
No body in Labour Party blarted, when stoke lost its pot banks, but to be fair the local Labour Party have done nowt to help stoke, even with 50 years of local power
You aren't bothered by these people losing their jobs. You care if some people lose their jobs, but not others.
Nobody really cared or helped me when I've lost jobs in past, only a few close peeps care help and assist
Yeah it's not great loosing a job, but hey life ain't fair
Only the dead fish swim upstream
You complain about pot banks closing, because you think those people are like you. You don't care when bankers lose their jobs, or scientists lose their jobs because you think they're not like you."
And as you know, ima fireman so I've never worked in either the coal or steel industry |
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