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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/288


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Most countries do not pay child benefit in respect of children living outside of their territory. According to the EU’s Mutual Information System on Social Protection, in order to claim child benefit in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Sweden the child must be resident in the territory.[3] In Ireland the rules stipulate that the child must be normally living with and being supported by the recipient however in practice this is not the case.[4] Only in the UK, Czech Republic, Germany, Latvia, and the Netherlands can child benefit be claimed for children who live in another EU state."

Basically why do we the UK and the small other handful of Countries pay child benefit to children living in other EU states etc when the majority of other states do not ?

Is this something we've been "encouraged" to do for some reason or have the government at some point decided to do this willingly?

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

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"https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/288

Most countries do not pay child benefit in respect of children living outside of their territory. According to the EU’s Mutual Information System on Social Protection, in order to claim child benefit in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Sweden the child must be resident in the territory.[3] In Ireland the rules stipulate that the child must be normally living with and being supported by the recipient however in practice this is not the case.[4] Only in the UK, Czech Republic, Germany, Latvia, and the Netherlands can child benefit be claimed for children who live in another EU state.

Basically why do we the UK and the small other handful of Countries pay child benefit to children living in other EU states etc when the majority of other states do not ?

Is this something we've been "encouraged" to do for some reason or have the government at some point decided to do this willingly?"

I'm not sure exactly the specifics, but isn't this what Cameron proposed to stop back in 2015? To be honest, I thought that cross-border childcare payments were applicable to *all* EU states, and not just a handful? Maybe the rest of them are going against the EU rules and just not doing it? I'm not sure. As far as I understand, there is an upcoming change that means that the *amount* of childcare will be adjusted to the local level of where the children are. ie. a parent in the UK with a child in Romania would get childcare at the level paid in Romania, not the UK.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/288

Most countries do not pay child benefit in respect of children living outside of their territory. According to the EU’s Mutual Information System on Social Protection, in order to claim child benefit in Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Hungary, Italy, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain and Sweden the child must be resident in the territory.[3] In Ireland the rules stipulate that the child must be normally living with and being supported by the recipient however in practice this is not the case.[4] Only in the UK, Czech Republic, Germany, Latvia, and the Netherlands can child benefit be claimed for children who live in another EU state.

Basically why do we the UK and the small other handful of Countries pay child benefit to children living in other EU states etc when the majority of other states do not ?

Is this something we've been "encouraged" to do for some reason or have the government at some point decided to do this willingly?"

well this is another example of the UK NOT following EU rules - and it causes a lot of resentment too!

Another rule we haven't been following is the 3 months rule -

Over 3 months in another EU country you have to have sufficient capital or resources so your not a burden on the host country.

You have to have comprehensive medical insurance.

Not be a threat to the country.

These EU rules came into force in 2004 when the eastern European countries joined. We chose not to implement it. Having said that we don't keep tabs on people leaving the UK. Many years ago I had au-pair's They checked them in but nobdy made sure they left after their visa ran out!

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Once again, issues which could have been resolved if our elected officials actually paid attention and stopped having little tribal feuds and pet projects.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Thing is how could it be the UK NOT following rules though. It's just a small handful of Countries that pay it for overseas children.

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By (user no longer on site) OP     over a year ago

Just found this..

https://fullfact.org/europe/explaining-eu-deal-exporting-child-benefit/

That may confluct with my original link which may be incorrect

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By *oi_LucyCouple  over a year ago

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"Just found this..

https://fullfact.org/europe/explaining-eu-deal-exporting-child-benefit/

That may confluct with my original link which may be incorrect "

Exactly. As I said above, it was my understanding that it was an EU rule that childcare *was* paid across borders. And it was the UK (Cameron) that was trying to get this stopped, but was indeed doing it. Ie. The UK is following the rules. Not sure about other countries if they are or not.

-Matt

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