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What is wrong with us? Has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?
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In the last week we have seen a woman deported deported to Singapore even tho she was given indefinite leave to remain in the UK after marrying in 1990 and having 2 children. And why? Because she spent periods back in Singapore caring for her parents before they died and the government’s new spousal visa system requires the British partner to prove earnings of at least £18,600 and the couple being able to show long stretches of uninterrupted time living in the UK.
And then we have the obnoxious spectacle of Robert Chilowa who ran into a house fire and saved 2 children from certain death (2 died in the fire) is to be returned to Zimbabwe.
Have we really become such a mean minded country that despite 27 years of stable marriage nursing dying parents and saving children's lives are excuses to deport foreigners? |
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over a year ago
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Frankly, it's a disgrace.
A similar thing happened in Scotland recently when an Australian family were threatened with deportation after their study visa was withdrawn retrospectively. (So much for getting on with our former commonwealth partners after Brexit).
The level of local support (along with that from the First Minister) has, eventually, resulted in the family being allowed to stay but it was a situation that should never have happened in the first place. |
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Do you think that any company running a government contract would have dared use a news story about a mans heroism saving children to target him for deportation prior to the brexit vote? I would suggest not, in fact I would suggest the 52% to 'take back control' and stop mass migration of the hoards waiting over the channel gave a green light to every racist xenophobe to spew their hate at anyone they see as not being one of the gang. Or are the police reports of hate crimes rising and stories like the above just 'false news'? |
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"Do you think that any company running a government contract would have dared use a news story about a mans heroism saving children to target him for deportation prior to the brexit vote? I would suggest not, in fact I would suggest the 52% to 'take back control' and stop mass migration of the hoards waiting over the channel gave a green light to every racist xenophobe to spew their hate at anyone they see as not being one of the gang. Or are the police reports of hate crimes rising and stories like the above just 'false news'? "
the rise in hate crimes is mainly down to the way crimes are recorded. If I pinch an Englishmans bike its theft. If I pinch a Poles bike its a hate crime |
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"What has this to do with Brexit?  "
That's what I was thinking, this has nothing to do with Brexit. The OP post is about a Singapore national and Singapore are not in the EU. The 2nd post on the thread talks about Australian nationals and Australia is not a member of the EU. Really bizarre that people are trying to link these cases to Brexit. |
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Unfortunately Robert chilawa is here illegally, rules are there for this kinda stuff, doing the noble things in life doesnt guarantee having no problems.
Its also good to see a petition for his stay has been started and that hopefully his case will be overturned, thats why we have oversight I guess for these cases |
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"Unfortunately Robert chilawa is here illegally, rules are there for this kinda stuff, doing the noble things in life doesnt guarantee having no problems.
Its also good to see a petition for his stay has been started and that hopefully his case will be overturned, thats why we have oversight I guess for these cases"
No he was not...
He was granted asylum because he was in fear of his life if returned to Zimbabwe, but this has been revoked because apparently the zanu pf no longer pose a danger to anyone who opposes Mugabe. |
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"Do you think that any company running a government contract would have dared use a news story about a mans heroism saving children to target him for deportation prior to the brexit vote? I would suggest not, in fact I would suggest the 52% to 'take back control' and stop mass migration of the hoards waiting over the channel gave a green light to every racist xenophobe to spew their hate at anyone they see as not being one of the gang. Or are the police reports of hate crimes rising and stories like the above just 'false news'?
the rise in hate crimes is mainly down to the way crimes are recorded. If I pinch an Englishmans bike its theft. If I pinch a Poles bike its a hate crime"
I'm sorry I don't believe that. Care to pull up the piece of legal legislation from either the courts or the police which states that?
As far as I am aware theft is theft, and if it happens to be theft of property from a ethnic minority or migrant, then it should be recorded as theft by the police, and a hate crime if they then find the grounds to report it as such. |
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"This is linked to Brexit because it has fanned the flames of racism in our 'great' country"
I only think its about racism for some members of society.
For most the immigration debate was about too many low skilled workers coming here.
That said, it links to brexit due to government/ government organisations effectively going "oh shit! We're seen to be too soft on non-brits, time to get tough" and in the process they remove those who contribute to our society, make it difficult for those who wish to start up a business here to move here, and deter those who wish to come here due to not being able to bring their spouse/children.
Not just from the EU either - infact from what I can see, mainly internationally and from the commonwealth. And here I thought brexit was about us being more global. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"This is linked to Brexit because it has fanned the flames of racism in our 'great' country
I only think its about racism for some members of society.
For most the immigration debate was about too many low skilled workers coming here.
That said, it links to brexit due to government/ government organisations effectively going "oh shit! We're seen to be too soft on non-brits, time to get tough" and in the process they remove those who contribute to our society, make it difficult for those who wish to start up a business here to move here, and deter those who wish to come here due to not being able to bring their spouse/children.
Not just from the EU either - infact from what I can see, mainly internationally and from the commonwealth. And here I thought brexit was about us being more global."
This has come from the Tory promise to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands. The thing that May pledged to do as Home Secretary.
Never deliverable.
You know, that thing Major Had just been savaged about. Making unrealistic promises.
However, May is not someone who fails. Not since she was a little girl. Her inability to flex at all on immigration and therefore the push to hard Brexit is to succeed in erasing this one blot on her copy book.
All this has done is increase the focus on immigration both legal and illegal as being one of the country's biggest problems.
If it hadn't been demonized for so long and everything that the tiny percentage of dishonest immigrants do wasn't shouted from the rooftops we'd have got to this place?
The problem is perception rather than the objective facts. It always has been and, sadly, I don't see that changing. |
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"In the last week we have seen a woman deported deported to Singapore even tho she was given indefinite leave to remain in the UK after marrying in 1990 and having 2 children. And why? Because she spent periods back in Singapore caring for her parents before they died and the government’s new spousal visa system requires the British partner to prove earnings of at least £18,600 and the couple being able to show long stretches of uninterrupted time living in the UK.
And then we have the obnoxious spectacle of Robert Chilowa who ran into a house fire and saved 2 children from certain death (2 died in the fire) is to be returned to Zimbabwe.
Have we really become such a mean minded country that despite 27 years of stable marriage nursing dying parents and saving children's lives are excuses to deport foreigners? "
I voted Brexit and I want imigration controls but I Agree both these examples are disgusting !!!!
Why do we always pick on the Decent people ?
If both of the above were criminals we would probably have let them stay !  |
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Nothing has changed. In the 1960's when we had a lot of immigrants coming from India - a commonwealth country we had the same attitude. Enoch Powell was the standard bearer then - 50 years on it's someone else! Yes we need control of immigration, but clearly over the last 50 year's we should have sorted it by now? Ok we "can't control " EU migration - yes we can. Rule is if your comming here for more than 3 months you have to have comprehensive medical insurance, be sufficient income wise, and not a security threat. If you can't fulfil ALL 3 then they can be sent back. So why haven't they?????? The rest of the world (180,000) who came in I can only assume they are required to meet similar criteria? |
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?"
No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are. |
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"This is linked to Brexit because it has fanned the flames of racism in our 'great' country
I only think its about racism for some members of society.
For most the immigration debate was about too many low skilled workers coming here.
That said, it links to brexit due to government/ government organisations effectively going "oh shit! We're seen to be too soft on non-brits, time to get tough" and in the process they remove those who contribute to our society, make it difficult for those who wish to start up a business here to move here, and deter those who wish to come here due to not being able to bring their spouse/children.
Not just from the EU either - infact from what I can see, mainly internationally and from the commonwealth. And here I thought brexit was about us being more global.
This has come from the Tory promise to reduce immigration to the tens of thousands. The thing that May pledged to do as Home Secretary.
Never deliverable.
You know, that thing Major Had just been savaged about. Making unrealistic promises.
However, May is not someone who fails. Not since she was a little girl. Her inability to flex at all on immigration and therefore the push to hard Brexit is to succeed in erasing this one blot on her copy book.
All this has done is increase the focus on immigration both legal and illegal as being one of the country's biggest problems.
If it hadn't been demonized for so long and everything that the tiny percentage of dishonest immigrants do wasn't shouted from the rooftops we'd have got to this place?
The problem is perception rather than the objective facts. It always has been and, sadly, I don't see that changing."
Yep, annoyingly most people are highly emotive, and struggle to set aside their emotive bias in favour for logically and objective thinking and problem solving.
I mean we all do it, but it's concerning when emotive thinking effects our government so openly. |
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are."
So it's not showing britains true colours is it  |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
So it's not showing britains true colours is it "
There has been a latent thread of racism that has never gone away. It exists in every country but "political correctness" has made it shameful for a long time. Now that minority feels that it's acceptable to voice that opinion.
The official message of "controlling immigration" was rather lost amongst the pictures of darker skinned men on the other side of a fence on the other side of Europe and maps showing Turkey and Syria.
It's showing an ugly side to our country which we had congratulated ourselves no longer existed. |
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"Do you think that any company running a government contract would have dared use a news story about a mans heroism saving children to target him for deportation prior to the brexit vote? I would suggest not, in fact I would suggest the 52% to 'take back control' and stop mass migration of the hoards waiting over the channel gave a green light to every racist xenophobe to spew their hate at anyone they see as not being one of the gang. Or are the police reports of hate crimes rising and stories like the above just 'false news'?
the rise in hate crimes is mainly down to the way crimes are recorded. If I pinch an Englishmans bike its theft. If I pinch a Poles bike its a hate crime"
Complete and utter tosh. You clearly know nothing about how crimes are recorded. |
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"There has been a latent thread of racism that has never gone away. It exists in every country but "political correctness" has made it shameful for a long time. Now that minority feels that it's acceptable to voice that opinion.
The official message of "controlling immigration" was rather lost amongst the pictures of darker skinned men on the other side of a fence on the other side of Europe and maps showing Turkey and Syria.
It's showing an ugly side to our country which we had congratulated ourselves no longer existed."
I think your on the money.
I would suggest that racism and xenophobia are passed down father to son in the first years of life and that for the most part the tolerance taught in schools is like civilisation, it's only 3 meals from breakdown. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are."
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist. |
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"There has been a latent thread of racism that has never gone away. It exists in every country but "political correctness" has made it shameful for a long time. Now that minority feels that it's acceptable to voice that opinion.
The official message of "controlling immigration" was rather lost amongst the pictures of darker skinned men on the other side of a fence on the other side of Europe and maps showing Turkey and Syria.
It's showing an ugly side to our country which we had congratulated ourselves no longer existed.
I think your on the money.
I would suggest that racism and xenophobia are passed down father to son in the first years of life and that for the most part the tolerance taught in schools is like civilisation, it's only 3 meals from breakdown."
The racists who tell people to fuck off home from across the street aren't the problem.These are the vocal minority and are happy to wear their hate with pride.However these people aren't a threat at all.The secret xenephobes and racists who keep their cards close and will try their best not to let the mask slip.The ones whos aim it is to persuade you that there is no racism.Its just playing the race card.The ones who try and rationalise and normalise hate and xenophobia these people are the real problem.
As the saying goes. : "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."
Its also true, as has been said racism and hate is learned.No one is born with hate of another group.The language is learned and normalised within the community and at home.Racism is a meme thats passed down .
It did on the surface appear to fade towards the end of the 70s,but like all memes they fade into favourable hosts awaiting for my fertile times to expand once again into new minds.Its "cultural software". |
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What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
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correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour. "
Laws like an independent legislature that can tell the government to take Article 50 to Parliament?
Rules like the Lords proposing amending legislation when appropriate?
You were keen on changing both processes when it comes to these things.
A little consistency would make your opinions a little more credible  |
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour. "
exactly |
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour. "
perhaps look up the actual definition of 'multitude' before you chuck it about as usual without foundation..
more Breitfart thinking eh.. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour. "
Permanent leave to remain means just that, you can remain here permanently, there is no need to change your citizenship from one country to another. |
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour. "
I think it is actually the other way around, there are people who, when they have blatant been racist, deny it and blame it on the PC crowd or say it doesn't exist .... |
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
So it's not showing britains true colours is it
There has been a latent thread of racism that has never gone away. It exists in every country but "political correctness" has made it shameful for a long time. Now that minority feels that it's acceptable to voice that opinion.
The official message of "controlling immigration" was rather lost amongst the pictures of darker skinned men on the other side of a fence on the other side of Europe and maps showing Turkey and Syria.
It's showing an ugly side to our country which we had congratulated ourselves no longer existed."
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist."
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist. "
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe). |
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"[Removed by poster at 05/03/17 13:25:29]"
I dont view Shag a racist as he is voicing his opinions about a situation he knows about. I dont think you should make negative assumptions about another poster or out words in their mouth |
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour.
Laws like an independent legislature that can tell the government to take Article 50 to Parliament?
Rules like the Lords proposing amending legislation when appropriate?
You were keen on changing both processes when it comes to these things.
A little consistency would make your opinions a little more credible "
You forgot laws on the freedom of the press, only you probably didn't post that one because you don't like it when the free press criticise the Judiciary.
As you say though a little consistency would make your opinions a little more credible. |
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist.
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe). "
They probably think you are racist because you support Donald Trump too. |
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist.
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe). "
It was a little sarcastic too lol. I thought they meant the brexitors there, but yeah they dont understand the situation in sweden and it sure is a big chaos with them, if a country brings in them from a war zone, they will get problems. |
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist.
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe).
They probably think you are racist because you support Donald Trump too. "
Are you okay to keep mentioning another poster on a forum thread? I mean, within the rules and getting a little obsessive, much? |
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist.
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe).
They probably think you are racist because you support Donald Trump too. "
I reckon so too. I take it they didnt like the apprentice lol. |
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"[Removed by poster at 05/03/17 13:25:29]
I dont view Shag a racist as he is voicing his opinions about a situation he knows about. I dont think you should make negative assumptions about another poster or out words in their mouth"
That is right, you are neither right or left to say whats wrong with your own country. |
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By *asyukMan
over a year ago
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour.
Laws like an independent legislature that can tell the government to take Article 50 to Parliament?
Rules like the Lords proposing amending legislation when appropriate?
You were keen on changing both processes when it comes to these things.
A little consistency would make your opinions a little more credible
You forgot laws on the freedom of the press, only you probably didn't post that one because you don't like it when the free press criticise the Judiciary.
As you say though a little consistency would make your opinions a little more credible."
Wow. You just don't like to take anything in that disagrees with you.
What laws on the freedom of the press have been discussed? Only their behaviour and the failure of government to defend the independence of the judiciary.
The press can say whatsoever it wishes as long as it it:
True
In context
Pertinent
Do you disagree?
Does the sexuality of a judge colour his opinion on a point of constitutional law?
Is a judge ignoring political pressure when making a legal decision be called "an enemy of the people"?
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist.
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe).
They probably think you are racist because you support Donald Trump too.
Are you okay to keep mentioning another poster on a forum thread? I mean, within the rules and getting a little obsessive, much?"
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist.
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe).
They probably think you are racist because you support Donald Trump too.
Are you okay to keep mentioning another poster on a forum thread? I mean, within the rules and getting a little obsessive, much?I know, you will alwais get few that are obsessed over you."
Still waiting for the IKEA meet! |
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist.
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe).
They probably think you are racist because you support Donald Trump too.
Are you okay to keep mentioning another poster on a forum thread? I mean, within the rules and getting a little obsessive, much?I know, you will alwais get few that are obsessed over you.
Still waiting for the IKEA meet!"
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist.
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe).
They probably think you are racist because you support Donald Trump too.
Are you okay to keep mentioning another poster on a forum thread? I mean, within the rules and getting a little obsessive, much?I know, you will alwais get few that are obsessed over you.
Still waiting for the IKEA meet!Yes, it will be soon and we could have hot dogs too there mmmmm "
Swedish meatballs? |
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"In the last week we have seen a woman deported deported to Singapore even tho she was given indefinite leave to remain in the UK after marrying in 1990 and having 2 children. And why? Because she spent periods back in Singapore caring for her parents before they died and the government’s new spousal visa system requires the British partner to prove earnings of at least £18,600 and the couple being able to show long stretches of uninterrupted time living in the UK.
And then we have the obnoxious spectacle of Robert Chilowa who ran into a house fire and saved 2 children from certain death (2 died in the fire) is to be returned to Zimbabwe.
Have we really become such a mean minded country that despite 27 years of stable marriage nursing dying parents and saving children's lives are excuses to deport foreigners? I voted Brexit and I want imigration controls but I Agree both these examples are disgusting !!!!
Why do we always pick on the Decent people ?
If both of the above were criminals we would probably have let them stay ! "
You mean you voted for tougher enforcement of controls on immigrants but, now they're actually being tougher on enforcement of controls on immigrants, you don't actually like what that really means.
Maybe you should've thought a little more about what actually being tougher on controls on immigrants actually meant before you voted for it. |
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"Yes, brexit is showing britains true colours.
What true colours are those?
Are you suggesting that britain in general is racist?
If so please explain exactly how you come to that conclusion?No I dont, but it have given the voice for it for those who are.
Just look at people in this forum who openly say that they don't care if people call them racist. It used to be a bad thing, now people don't care, they are proud to be racist.
Not sure why you are giving CLCC's comment the thumbs up Shag, unless its meant to be sarcastic? They probably view you as racist for your opinions on Refugees causing chaos in Sweden (and wider Europe).
They probably think you are racist because you support Donald Trump too.
Are you okay to keep mentioning another poster on a forum thread? I mean, within the rules and getting a little obsessive, much?I know, you will alwais get few that are obsessed over you.
Still waiting for the IKEA meet!Yes, it will be soon and we could have hot dogs too there mmmmm
Swedish meatballs?"
Yes, some swedish meatballs too, you want something on them? |
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour.
Permanent leave to remain means just that, you can remain here permanently, there is no need to change your citizenship from one country to another."
But it can be revoked depending on cercumstances and we are not in full possession of the facts |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"What people are missing is that this case has been going on well before the Brexit vote It's to do with imagration rules that we all have to abide by.
Permanant leave to stay is not concreat and the Idea is that you eventually become a British citizen.
Nothing racist in it as we would have to abide by the Immigration rules of any other country.
It just sells news at the moment thats all.
correct, there is nothing racist about it but there seems to be a multitude of people here on this forum who play the race card when they are defeated in debates or if something happens in society that they don't like then the old "that's racist" line comes out. We have rules and laws in this country and everyone must abide by those rules and laws regardless of nationality, gender or skin colour.
Permanent leave to remain means just that, you can remain here permanently, there is no need to change your citizenship from one country to another.
But it can be revoked depending on cercumstances and we are not in full possession of the facts "
ILR can indeed be revoked, but so can citizenship. I don't know what you are refering to in relation to the possession of facts though. |
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The majority of the electorate here in Britain voted to leave the EU. And those that are now complaining and trying to reverse the decision try to masquerade as anti fascists. Such hypocrites. |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"The majority of the electorate here in Britain voted to leave the EU. And those that are now complaining and trying to reverse the decision try to masquerade as anti fascists. Such hypocrites."
I'm sure someone with a username like "Hitler's Grandson" is going to give a fair and balanced contribution to the politics forum!  |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
Asked and answered"
What was the answer? |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?  "
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality? |
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"The majority of the electorate here in Britain voted to leave the EU. And those that are now complaining and trying to reverse the decision try to masquerade as anti fascists. Such hypocrites.
I'm sure someone with a username like "Hitler's Grandson" is going to give a fair and balanced contribution to the politics forum! "
Maybe he means Eddie Hitler aka Paul Nuttal.
Oh. Sorry. That's the same thing, isn't it |
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"This is linked to Brexit because it has fanned the flames of racism in our 'great' country"
But these people were not deported because if public racist opinion ... they were deported because they did not meet immigration rules which (i may be mistaken) have not changed yet post brexit vote ... so nothing to do with brexit |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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"In the last week we have seen a woman deported deported to Singapore even tho she was given indefinite leave to remain in the UK after marrying in 1990 and having 2 children. And why? Because she spent periods back in Singapore caring for her parents before they died and the government’s new spousal visa system requires the British partner to prove earnings of at least £18,600 and the couple being able to show long stretches of uninterrupted time living in the UK.
And then we have the obnoxious spectacle of Robert Chilowa who ran into a house fire and saved 2 children from certain death (2 died in the fire) is to be returned to Zimbabwe.
Have we really become such a mean minded country that despite 27 years of stable marriage nursing dying parents and saving children's lives are excuses to deport foreigners? "
I'm quite sure,that since Brexit,
there have been no new immigration laws.
Both cases you have cited,
disgust me
The decision in both cases,
could not be more wrong,and inhumane
Completely lacking in compassion,and common sense.
I sincerely hope,both are overturned on appeal,and the law is amended,
to ensure similar rulings can never be repeated.
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Although as you know,
brexit would have had absolutely no influence,on these rulings.
.
So your attempt to capatilise,
on these poor people's,sad situation,
As a means of justifying your own anti Brexit agenda.
Is in itself,
quite disgusting,and pathetic.
Reaching a new low,even for the brexit debate.
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?"
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings. |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings."
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either "
YES! |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES! "
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?"
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that? |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?"
oh dear.
Now come to think of it, you may have missed the thread where I was in support of African farmers and was in agreement with Oxfam when they described the EU's agricultural policy towards Africa as 'criminal'? Do Oxfam not care for humanity either if they criticise the EU? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?
oh dear.
Now come to think of it, you may have missed the thread where I was in support of African farmers and was in agreement with Oxfam when they described the EU's agricultural policy towards Africa as 'criminal'? Do Oxfam not care for humanity either if they criticise the EU?"
Right so you want to deflect from your lack of humanity and return to EU bashing, what a surprise. |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?"
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?
oh dear.
Now come to think of it, you may have missed the thread where I was in support of African farmers and was in agreement with Oxfam when they described the EU's agricultural policy towards Africa as 'criminal'? Do Oxfam not care for humanity either if they criticise the EU?
Right so you want to deflect from your lack of humanity and return to EU bashing, what a surprise. "
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?
oh dear.
Now come to think of it, you may have missed the thread where I was in support of African farmers and was in agreement with Oxfam when they described the EU's agricultural policy towards Africa as 'criminal'? Do Oxfam not care for humanity either if they criticise the EU?
Right so you want to deflect from your lack of humanity and return to EU bashing, what a surprise. "
I want to live and work in the Playboy mansion but I can't, where's the humanity in that eh? I take it you won't bash the EU for keeping millions of Africans in poverty will you? Why not? Where is your humanity? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?
oh dear.
Now come to think of it, you may have missed the thread where I was in support of African farmers and was in agreement with Oxfam when they described the EU's agricultural policy towards Africa as 'criminal'? Do Oxfam not care for humanity either if they criticise the EU?
Right so you want to deflect from your lack of humanity and return to EU bashing, what a surprise.
I want to live and work in the Playboy mansion but I can't, where's the humanity in that eh? I take it you won't bash the EU for keeping millions of Africans in poverty will you? Why not? Where is your humanity?"
Who has stopped you from working in the playboy mansion? |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?"
So from this post I take it you think that 52% of the country are inhumane? |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?
oh dear.
Now come to think of it, you may have missed the thread where I was in support of African farmers and was in agreement with Oxfam when they described the EU's agricultural policy towards Africa as 'criminal'? Do Oxfam not care for humanity either if they criticise the EU?
Right so you want to deflect from your lack of humanity and return to EU bashing, what a surprise. "
Err, you just took the thread off on a tangent to the EU topic when you started ranting and raving about stripping away rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Then when someone replies to your comment (which was obviously a comment about Brexit and the EU) you accuse them of returning to EU bashing. Priceless. |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?
oh dear.
Now come to think of it, you may have missed the thread where I was in support of African farmers and was in agreement with Oxfam when they described the EU's agricultural policy towards Africa as 'criminal'? Do Oxfam not care for humanity either if they criticise the EU?"
Not only Oxfam who are critical of the EU. The French charity Medicins Sans Frontiers also want nothing to do with the EU on moral and ethical grounds they refuse to accept any donations from the EU because of the EU's piss poor handling of the migrant crisis. |
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Under the human rights act, the british courts are bound by the european court of human rights in strasbourg. I reckon that only apply when they are in the eu. |
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"Under the human rights act, the british courts are bound by the european court of human rights in strasbourg. I reckon that only apply when they are in the eu."
You really need to keep up shag...
May has already stated that she intends to take the UK out of the ECHR at the same time as we exit the EU. |
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"Under the human rights act, the british courts are bound by the european court of human rights in strasbourg. I reckon that only apply when they are in the eu.
You really need to keep up shag...
May has already stated that she intends to take the UK out of the ECHR at the same time as we exit the EU."
Quite right she is too. Criminal low life scum such as the terrorist Abu Hamza have used the ECHR to circumnavigate and frustrate our own British court rulings. He among others have managed to avoid deportation for many, many months (even years in some cases) and have used the ECHR as a means to stay within the country. This debacle has cost the uk taxpayer untold amounts of money to keep these criminals housed in jails here and also for expensive legal fees. Enough is enough, it's time to end this madness and it's right we should now leave the ECHR along with the European court of Justice in the EU and make British law and British courts supreme here again, draw up our own 'UK Bill of Rights' which will keep the human rights we all need but clamp down on and eradicate the loop holes criminals like Hamza exploit to circumnavigate and frustrate the law so they can avoid justice. |
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?
oh dear.
Now come to think of it, you may have missed the thread where I was in support of African farmers and was in agreement with Oxfam when they described the EU's agricultural policy towards Africa as 'criminal'? Do Oxfam not care for humanity either if they criticise the EU?
Right so you want to deflect from your lack of humanity and return to EU bashing, what a surprise.
I want to live and work in the Playboy mansion but I can't, where's the humanity in that eh? I take it you won't bash the EU for keeping millions of Africans in poverty will you? Why not? Where is your humanity?"
Couldn't think of anything more inhumane than living in the playboy mansion ... |
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"Do you think that any company running a government contract would have dared use a news story about a mans heroism saving children to target him for deportation prior to the brexit vote? I would suggest not, in fact I would suggest the 52% to 'take back control' and stop mass migration of the hoards waiting over the channel gave a green light to every racist xenophobe to spew their hate at anyone they see as not being one of the gang. Or are the police reports of hate crimes rising and stories like the above just 'false news'?
the rise in hate crimes is mainly down to the way crimes are recorded. If I pinch an Englishmans bike its theft. If I pinch a Poles bike its a hate crime"
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"What has this to do with Brexit? why mention brexit?
its in the OP title - 'has Brexit stripped us of our humanity?'
So when was it that you lost your humanity then CandM?
I didn't. When did you lose your sense of perspective and reality?
I have never seen a single post from you that shows you have any compassion towards other human beings.
So?
You have never seen a post from me that shows I don't have compassion towards other human beings either
YES!
Yes what? If that means you have then please remind me what I've said?
You want to strip away the rights of millions of people to live and work where they want. Where is the humanity in that?
oh dear.
Now come to think of it, you may have missed the thread where I was in support of African farmers and was in agreement with Oxfam when they described the EU's agricultural policy towards Africa as 'criminal'? Do Oxfam not care for humanity either if they criticise the EU?
Right so you want to deflect from your lack of humanity and return to EU bashing, what a surprise.
I want to live and work in the Playboy mansion but I can't, where's the humanity in that eh? I take it you won't bash the EU for keeping millions of Africans in poverty will you? Why not? Where is your humanity?
Couldn't think of anything more inhumane than living in the playboy mansion ..."
for goodness sake
Perhaps thats why they wouldn't have me then eh?
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"Quite right she is too. Criminal low life scum such as the terrorist Abu Hamza have used the ECHR to circumnavigate and frustrate our own British court rulings. He among others have managed to avoid deportation for many, many months (even years in some cases) and have used the ECHR as a means to stay within the country. This debacle has cost the uk taxpayer untold amounts of money to keep these criminals housed in jails here and also for expensive legal fees. Enough is enough, it's time to end this madness and it's right we should now leave the ECHR along with the European court of Justice in the EU and make British law and British courts supreme here again, draw up our own 'UK Bill of Rights' which will keep the human rights we all need but clamp down on and eradicate the loop holes criminals like Hamza exploit to circumnavigate and frustrate the law so they can avoid justice. "
Will you be so happy when it is you, your wife, son, daughter or next door neighbour who is the one who finds themselves in need of human rights laws protection but it is not in the governments interest so they say 'fuck you' and all you and yours protections are gone? |
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"Quite right she is too. Criminal low life scum such as the terrorist Abu Hamza have used the ECHR to circumnavigate and frustrate our own British court rulings. He among others have managed to avoid deportation for many, many months (even years in some cases) and have used the ECHR as a means to stay within the country. This debacle has cost the uk taxpayer untold amounts of money to keep these criminals housed in jails here and also for expensive legal fees. Enough is enough, it's time to end this madness and it's right we should now leave the ECHR along with the European court of Justice in the EU and make British law and British courts supreme here again, draw up our own 'UK Bill of Rights' which will keep the human rights we all need but clamp down on and eradicate the loop holes criminals like Hamza exploit to circumnavigate and frustrate the law so they can avoid justice.
Will you be so happy when it is you, your wife, son, daughter or next door neighbour who is the one who finds themselves in need of human rights laws protection but it is not in the governments interest so they say 'fuck you' and all you and yours protections are gone?"
As I said in my post we will have a 'UK bill of rights' to replace the ECHR. It will give us the human rights we need but it will eradicate the loop holes criminals exploit to circumnavigate and frustrate the law. |
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"Quite right she is too. Criminal low life scum such as the terrorist Abu Hamza have used the ECHR to circumnavigate and frustrate our own British court rulings. He among others have managed to avoid deportation for many, many months (even years in some cases) and have used the ECHR as a means to stay within the country. This debacle has cost the uk taxpayer untold amounts of money to keep these criminals housed in jails here and also for expensive legal fees. Enough is enough, it's time to end this madness and it's right we should now leave the ECHR along with the European court of Justice in the EU and make British law and British courts supreme here again, draw up our own 'UK Bill of Rights' which will keep the human rights we all need but clamp down on and eradicate the loop holes criminals like Hamza exploit to circumnavigate and frustrate the law so they can avoid justice.
Will you be so happy when it is you, your wife, son, daughter or next door neighbour who is the one who finds themselves in need of human rights laws protection but it is not in the governments interest so they say 'fuck you' and all you and yours protections are gone?
As I said in my post we will have a 'UK bill of rights' to replace the ECHR. It will give us the human rights we need but it will eradicate the loop holes criminals exploit to circumnavigate and frustrate the law. "
You are never leaving the UK then? |
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"Under the human rights act, the british courts are bound by the european court of human rights in strasbourg. I reckon that only apply when they are in the eu.
You really need to keep up shag...
May has already stated that she intends to take the UK out of the ECHR at the same time as we exit the EU.
Quite right she is too. Criminal low life scum such as the terrorist Abu Hamza have used the ECHR to circumnavigate and frustrate our own British court rulings. He among others have managed to avoid deportation for many, many months (even years in some cases) and have used the ECHR as a means to stay within the country. This debacle has cost the uk taxpayer untold amounts of money to keep these criminals housed in jails here and also for expensive legal fees. Enough is enough, it's time to end this madness and it's right we should now leave the ECHR along with the European court of Justice in the EU and make British law and British courts supreme here again, draw up our own 'UK Bill of Rights' which will keep the human rights we all need but clamp down on and eradicate the loop holes criminals like Hamza exploit to circumnavigate and frustrate the law so they can avoid justice. "
We even have the case where a prisoner ( a convicted murderer ) claimed it was his human right to father a child . The sooner the ECHR human rights acts are abolished the better . |
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"Under the human rights act, the british courts are bound by the european court of human rights in strasbourg. I reckon that only apply when they are in the eu.
You really need to keep up shag...
May has already stated that she intends to take the UK out of the ECHR at the same time as we exit the EU.
Quite right she is too. Criminal low life scum such as the terrorist Abu Hamza have used the ECHR to circumnavigate and frustrate our own British court rulings. He among others have managed to avoid deportation for many, many months (even years in some cases) and have used the ECHR as a means to stay within the country. This debacle has cost the uk taxpayer untold amounts of money to keep these criminals housed in jails here and also for expensive legal fees. Enough is enough, it's time to end this madness and it's right we should now leave the ECHR along with the European court of Justice in the EU and make British law and British courts supreme here again, draw up our own 'UK Bill of Rights' which will keep the human rights we all need but clamp down on and eradicate the loop holes criminals like Hamza exploit to circumnavigate and frustrate the law so they can avoid justice. We even have the case where a prisoner ( a convicted murderer ) claimed it was his human right to father a child . The sooner the ECHR human rights acts are abolished the better . "
Hang them all... If there was such a nation that focuses on crime prevention and rehabilitation were their prisons are so empty they rent it to neighboring countries. Wait, there is... they call themselves liberals. |
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