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"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence !" I'm in favour of devolution for all countries and regions.Lets go back to the old kingdoms.It'll be like game of thrones.Independence for the people of Wessex amd mercia and the rest of england. | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence !" Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! " 'Brexiteers'  | |||
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"I try to overlook grammar and spelling.Auto correct and using mobiles plays a part.Pick apart the argument not the sentence. "What can I say? I'm a grammar Nazi
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"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence !I'm in favour of devolution for all countries and regions.Lets go back to the old kingdoms.It'll be like game of thrones.Independence for the people of Wessex amd mercia and the rest of england." lol  snag is in game of thrones they all fight each other  | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! " I suppose I asked for that . My spelling is average but I'm guilty of not checking my texting | |||
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"England needs scotland more than what they think." No , I don't think we do . | |||
"England needs scotland more than what they think. No , I don't think we do ." It's debatable whether it is a yes or no. But I think the complexity of the Union and all the different economic and social factors added up and it's probably a tit for tat reliance. That said, care to respond to some of the issues I posted? | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! " Nice one! another tory picking on working class people with lower education/ iq levels! Oh my heart bleeds for you! Will your skiing holidays be more expensive? Or your weekends in Paris not quite as slick through customs as they used to be!  | |||
"In short the English and Welsh Brexiteers might find themselves with a top heavy population pyramid and not enough young, high wage earners to tax to support the NHS and social care. Logically speaking that is not a good recipe. " I guess if Scotland gained independence then it would be reasonable to assume it would also remain or rejoin the EU. It would also be reasonable to assume it would be more advantageous to an economic migrant in England to continue North to make use of the generous EU welfare state. Obviously there would be no point staying in England once our economy has been crippled by Brexit... | |||
"In short the English and Welsh Brexiteers might find themselves with a top heavy population pyramid and not enough young, high wage earners to tax to support the NHS and social care. Logically speaking that is not a good recipe. I guess if Scotland gained independence then it would be reasonable to assume it would also remain or rejoin the EU. It would also be reasonable to assume it would be more advantageous to an economic migrant in England to continue North to make use of the generous EU welfare state. Obviously there would be no point staying in England once our economy has been crippled by Brexit..." That might be one possibility. But how about you address what my post was really about - you know a big number of those British undergrads and the new wave apprenticeships qualified in computer software development, soliciting ect POSSIBLY looking at taking their skills out of England and Wales, because you know, they might not like the idea of being taxed higher down the line for less public services. Does it not worry you that England and Wales in this scenario might very well end up with less high quality skills, and less middle class earners/affluent working class earners. You know the people who are the meant to be the bulk of the tax payer and consumer market? | |||
"In short the English and Welsh Brexiteers might find themselves with a top heavy population pyramid and not enough young, high wage earners to tax to support the NHS and social care. Logically speaking that is not a good recipe. I guess if Scotland gained independence then it would be reasonable to assume it would also remain or rejoin the EU. It would also be reasonable to assume it would be more advantageous to an economic migrant in England to continue North to make use of the generous EU welfare state. Obviously there would be no point staying in England once our economy has been crippled by Brexit... That might be one possibility. But how about you address what my post was really about - you know a big number of those British undergrads and the new wave apprenticeships qualified in computer software development, soliciting ect POSSIBLY looking at taking their skills out of England and Wales, because you know, they might not like the idea of being taxed higher down the line for less public services. Does it not worry you that England and Wales in this scenario might very well end up with less high quality skills, and less middle class earners/affluent working class earners. You know the people who are the meant to be the bulk of the tax payer and consumer market? " High quality skills such as what? | |||
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"In short the English and Welsh Brexiteers might find themselves with a top heavy population pyramid and not enough young, high wage earners to tax to support the NHS and social care. Logically speaking that is not a good recipe. I guess if Scotland gained independence then it would be reasonable to assume it would also remain or rejoin the EU. It would also be reasonable to assume it would be more advantageous to an economic migrant in England to continue North to make use of the generous EU welfare state. Obviously there would be no point staying in England once our economy has been crippled by Brexit... That might be one possibility. But how about you address what my post was really about - you know a big number of those British undergrads and the new wave apprenticeships qualified in computer software development, soliciting ect POSSIBLY looking at taking their skills out of England and Wales, because you know, they might not like the idea of being taxed higher down the line for less public services. Does it not worry you that England and Wales in this scenario might very well end up with less high quality skills, and less middle class earners/affluent working class earners. You know the people who are the meant to be the bulk of the tax payer and consumer market? High quality skills such as what? " Biotech, chemistry, engineering, biomedical sciences, software development, computer sciences, A.I programming, robotics, nursing? Mental healthcare and therapists? Even those doing apprenticeships in banks, law firms, some multinational engineering companies. These are the kind of people a country needs to retain, and these are the kind of people who are likely to leave the moment they realise they will become burdened. And yes, I realise that the UK public is already highly taxed and gets comparatively little for the rates and that is exactly what I am saying. Remove the tax revenue from Scotland and the taxpayers expense for services in scotland and does the rest of the union get a net increase or decrease in tax funds to spend of public services? Also, if, and big if, the Scotts were to get access to the EEC, or the EU, then not only is England competing with the likes of frankfurt, paris, berlin, dublin and other international cities to become attractive areas to invest and set up business hubs, but we are also competing with Edinburgh and Glasgow. What I am trying to say is, if England does not remain competitive, what keeps the young individuals of this nation here to pay taxes, which will then fund the NHS, social care ect? You said it yourself, taxes are already high with the feeling of little in return. So why are you professionals, with high levels of debt from studying possibly, going to stay here only to be taxed more and with a potentially higher cost of living? | |||
"In short the English and Welsh Brexiteers might find themselves with a top heavy population pyramid and not enough young, high wage earners to tax to support the NHS and social care. Logically speaking that is not a good recipe. I guess if Scotland gained independence then it would be reasonable to assume it would also remain or rejoin the EU. It would also be reasonable to assume it would be more advantageous to an economic migrant in England to continue North to make use of the generous EU welfare state. Obviously there would be no point staying in England once our economy has been crippled by Brexit... That might be one possibility. But how about you address what my post was really about - you know a big number of those British undergrads and the new wave apprenticeships qualified in computer software development, soliciting ect POSSIBLY looking at taking their skills out of England and Wales, because you know, they might not like the idea of being taxed higher down the line for less public services. Does it not worry you that England and Wales in this scenario might very well end up with less high quality skills, and less middle class earners/affluent working class earners. You know the people who are the meant to be the bulk of the tax payer and consumer market? High quality skills such as what? Biotech, chemistry, engineering, biomedical sciences, software development, computer sciences, A.I programming, robotics, nursing? Mental healthcare and therapists? Even those doing apprenticeships in banks, law firms, some multinational engineering companies. These are the kind of people a country needs to retain, and these are the kind of people who are likely to leave the moment they realise they will become burdened. And yes, I realise that the UK public is already highly taxed and gets comparatively little for the rates and that is exactly what I am saying. Remove the tax revenue from Scotland and the taxpayers expense for services in scotland and does the rest of the union get a net increase or decrease in tax funds to spend of public services? Also, if, and big if, the Scotts were to get access to the EEC, or the EU, then not only is England competing with the likes of frankfurt, paris, berlin, dublin and other international cities to become attractive areas to invest and set up business hubs, but we are also competing with Edinburgh and Glasgow. What I am trying to say is, if England does not remain competitive, what keeps the young individuals of this nation here to pay taxes, which will then fund the NHS, social care ect? You said it yourself, taxes are already high with the feeling of little in return. So why are you professionals, with high levels of debt from studying possibly, going to stay here only to be taxed more and with a potentially higher cost of living?" Oh no! Capitalism has failed! And you wonder why the working class voted for Brexit! Take your "quality skills" and get out of my country. | |||
"The combination of the Brexit result and yesterdays election results in Northern Ireland has definitely weakened the Union. " With changing demographics, an Ireland liberated from church influence becoming a more modern environment than Ulster, and pig-headed unionist politicians representing so badly the average voter who wants to move away from sectarianism - the prospect of a reunified Ireland draws ever closer to becoming reality. The sooner, the better. | |||
"In short the English and Welsh Brexiteers might find themselves with a top heavy population pyramid and not enough young, high wage earners to tax to support the NHS and social care. Logically speaking that is not a good recipe. I guess if Scotland gained independence then it would be reasonable to assume it would also remain or rejoin the EU. It would also be reasonable to assume it would be more advantageous to an economic migrant in England to continue North to make use of the generous EU welfare state. Obviously there would be no point staying in England once our economy has been crippled by Brexit... That might be one possibility. But how about you address what my post was really about - you know a big number of those British undergrads and the new wave apprenticeships qualified in computer software development, soliciting ect POSSIBLY looking at taking their skills out of England and Wales, because you know, they might not like the idea of being taxed higher down the line for less public services. Does it not worry you that England and Wales in this scenario might very well end up with less high quality skills, and less middle class earners/affluent working class earners. You know the people who are the meant to be the bulk of the tax payer and consumer market? High quality skills such as what? Biotech, chemistry, engineering, biomedical sciences, software development, computer sciences, A.I programming, robotics, nursing? Mental healthcare and therapists? Even those doing apprenticeships in banks, law firms, some multinational engineering companies. These are the kind of people a country needs to retain, and these are the kind of people who are likely to leave the moment they realise they will become burdened. And yes, I realise that the UK public is already highly taxed and gets comparatively little for the rates and that is exactly what I am saying. Remove the tax revenue from Scotland and the taxpayers expense for services in scotland and does the rest of the union get a net increase or decrease in tax funds to spend of public services? Also, if, and big if, the Scotts were to get access to the EEC, or the EU, then not only is England competing with the likes of frankfurt, paris, berlin, dublin and other international cities to become attractive areas to invest and set up business hubs, but we are also competing with Edinburgh and Glasgow. What I am trying to say is, if England does not remain competitive, what keeps the young individuals of this nation here to pay taxes, which will then fund the NHS, social care ect? You said it yourself, taxes are already high with the feeling of little in return. So why are you professionals, with high levels of debt from studying possibly, going to stay here only to be taxed more and with a potentially higher cost of living? Oh no! Capitalism has failed! And you wonder why the working class voted for Brexit! Take your "quality skills" and get out of my country. " Yeah don't get me wrong you are right, capitalism has failed, or is failing on it's current projectory in the eyes of the working, affluent, and lower-middle class. I agree with you. The only thing is, brexit is if anything, likely to make Britain more capitalist. Also, the people you lumped me in with, the young, skilled section of society, are like you, most of us aren't happy with how international corporations can form monopolies and exploit the labour forces of varying nations willy nilly. It's just many young people view brexit as a process which for a significant amount of time make britain very capitalist and corporation 'friendly' in order to remain competitive, at the expense of the bulk of society. | |||
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"As independent Scotland would see engineering jobs coming south of the boarder. I'm all for it. Plus i wont have to pay for their prescriptions and degrees! Winner. " Exactly | |||
"As independent Scotland would see engineering jobs coming south of the boarder. I'm all for it. Plus i wont have to pay for their prescriptions and degrees! Winner. Exactly "
post Brexit the UK and England in particular will be the place to be for anyone with ambition | |||
"As independent Scotland would see engineering jobs coming south of the boarder. I'm all for it. Plus i wont have to pay for their prescriptions and degrees! Winner. Exactly
post Brexit the UK and England in particular will be the place to be for anyone with ambition "Dare I ask how you have worked that one out? | |||
"As independent Scotland would see engineering jobs coming south of the boarder. I'm all for it. Plus i wont have to pay for their prescriptions and degrees! Winner. Exactly
post Brexit the UK and England in particular will be the place to be for anyone with ambition
Dare I ask how you have worked that one out? "because I have ambition. You? People will be attracted to the opportunities and a break from the straight jacket of the norm. The future is exciting for the UK | |||
"As independent Scotland would see engineering jobs coming south of the boarder. I'm all for it. Plus i wont have to pay for their prescriptions and degrees! Winner. Exactly
post Brexit the UK and England in particular will be the place to be for anyone with ambition
Dare I ask how you have worked that one out?
because I have ambition. You? People will be attracted to the opportunities and a break from the straight jacket of the norm. The future is exciting for the UK"I'd prefer England ! | |||
"As independent Scotland would see engineering jobs coming south of the boarder. I'm all for it. Plus i wont have to pay for their prescriptions and degrees! Winner. Exactly
post Brexit the UK and England in particular will be the place to be for anyone with ambition
Dare I ask how you have worked that one out?
because I have ambition. You? People will be attracted to the opportunities and a break from the straight jacket of the norm. The future is exciting for the UK"Yeah I'm ambitious too, hence why /i'm currently looking into going into business with some people in robotics and A.I, sadly ambition needs to be fostered in the right environment, and applied at the right time. | |||
"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After "What's the EEC?...... that disappeared ages ago. That was what we voted to remain in in 1975 (not me...but the country). It was a coalition of individual nations, trading together in harmony. It no longer exists. It was replaced by a beaurocratic behemoth ruled by a bunch of unelected tosspots from their ivory tower in Brussels. | |||
"In short the English and Welsh Brexiteers might find themselves with a top heavy population pyramid and not enough young, high wage earners to tax to support the NHS and social care. Logically speaking that is not a good recipe. I guess if Scotland gained independence then it would be reasonable to assume it would also remain or rejoin the EU. It would also be reasonable to assume it would be more advantageous to an economic migrant in England to continue North to make use of the generous EU welfare state. Obviously there would be no point staying in England once our economy has been crippled by Brexit... That might be one possibility. But how about you address what my post was really about - you know a big number of those British undergrads and the new wave apprenticeships qualified in computer software development, soliciting ect POSSIBLY looking at taking their skills out of England and Wales, because you know, they might not like the idea of being taxed higher down the line for less public services. Does it not worry you that England and Wales in this scenario might very well end up with less high quality skills, and less middle class earners/affluent working class earners. You know the people who are the meant to be the bulk of the tax payer and consumer market? High quality skills such as what? Biotech, chemistry, engineering, biomedical sciences, software development, computer sciences, A.I programming, robotics, nursing? Mental healthcare and therapists? Even those doing apprenticeships in banks, law firms, some multinational engineering companies. These are the kind of people a country needs to retain, and these are the kind of people who are likely to leave the moment they realise they will become burdened. And yes, I realise that the UK public is already highly taxed and gets comparatively little for the rates and that is exactly what I am saying. Remove the tax revenue from Scotland and the taxpayers expense for services in scotland and does the rest of the union get a net increase or decrease in tax funds to spend of public services? Also, if, and big if, the Scotts were to get access to the EEC, or the EU, then not only is England competing with the likes of frankfurt, paris, berlin, dublin and other international cities to become attractive areas to invest and set up business hubs, but we are also competing with Edinburgh and Glasgow. What I am trying to say is, if England does not remain competitive, what keeps the young individuals of this nation here to pay taxes, which will then fund the NHS, social care ect? You said it yourself, taxes are already high with the feeling of little in return. So why are you professionals, with high levels of debt from studying possibly, going to stay here only to be taxed more and with a potentially higher cost of living? Oh no! Capitalism has failed! And you wonder why the working class voted for Brexit! Take your "quality skills" and get out of my country. " I'm glad we finally agree, comrade. | |||
"In short the English and Welsh Brexiteers might find themselves with a top heavy population pyramid and not enough young, high wage earners to tax to support the NHS and social care. Logically speaking that is not a good recipe. I guess if Scotland gained independence then it would be reasonable to assume it would also remain or rejoin the EU. It would also be reasonable to assume it would be more advantageous to an economic migrant in England to continue North to make use of the generous EU welfare state. Obviously there would be no point staying in England once our economy has been crippled by Brexit... That might be one possibility. But how about you address what my post was really about - you know a big number of those British undergrads and the new wave apprenticeships qualified in computer software development, soliciting ect POSSIBLY looking at taking their skills out of England and Wales, because you know, they might not like the idea of being taxed higher down the line for less public services. Does it not worry you that England and Wales in this scenario might very well end up with less high quality skills, and less middle class earners/affluent working class earners. You know the people who are the meant to be the bulk of the tax payer and consumer market? High quality skills such as what? Biotech, chemistry, engineering, biomedical sciences, software development, computer sciences, A.I programming, robotics, nursing? Mental healthcare and therapists? Even those doing apprenticeships in banks, law firms, some multinational engineering companies. These are the kind of people a country needs to retain, and these are the kind of people who are likely to leave the moment they realise they will become burdened. And yes, I realise that the UK public is already highly taxed and gets comparatively little for the rates and that is exactly what I am saying. Remove the tax revenue from Scotland and the taxpayers expense for services in scotland and does the rest of the union get a net increase or decrease in tax funds to spend of public services? Also, if, and big if, the Scotts were to get access to the EEC, or the EU, then not only is England competing with the likes of frankfurt, paris, berlin, dublin and other international cities to become attractive areas to invest and set up business hubs, but we are also competing with Edinburgh and Glasgow. What I am trying to say is, if England does not remain competitive, what keeps the young individuals of this nation here to pay taxes, which will then fund the NHS, social care ect? You said it yourself, taxes are already high with the feeling of little in return. So why are you professionals, with high levels of debt from studying possibly, going to stay here only to be taxed more and with a potentially higher cost of living? Oh no! Capitalism has failed! And you wonder why the working class voted for Brexit! Take your "quality skills" and get out of my country. I'm glad we finally agree, comrade. " | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! Nice one! another tory picking on working class people with lower education/ iq levels! Oh my heart bleeds for you! Will your skiing holidays be more expensive? Or your weekends in Paris not quite as slick through customs as they used to be! "Shows how much you can deduce from my posts. First, I've never voted Tory in my life nor would I ever. By tradition, I'm a Labour voter until they sold out. Second, I've never been on a skiing holiday and finally, I've never had a weekend in Paris although I did pass through it once. My father actually worked in the coal mines around Edinburgh, not much of a Tory upbringing is it? Just because I take a degree of pride in my grasp of the English language doesn't mean I've somehow metamorphosed into some kind of upper class twit. I come from a working class family but worked hard at school and managed to get to University. I fully approve of comprehensive education and believe that everyone, irrespective of their background, be given an equal opportunity. Whether they choose to take advantage of it or not is down to the individual. So please don't tar me with your own prejudices. | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! Nice one! another tory picking on working class people with lower education/ iq levels! Oh my heart bleeds for you! Will your skiing holidays be more expensive? Or your weekends in Paris not quite as slick through customs as they used to be!
Shows how much you can deduce from my posts. First, I've never voted Tory in my life nor would I ever. By tradition, I'm a Labour voter until they sold out. Second, I've never been on a skiing holiday and finally, I've never had a weekend in Paris although I did pass through it once.
My father actually worked in the coal mines around Edinburgh, not much of a Tory upbringing is it?
Just because I take a degree of pride in my grasp of the English language doesn't mean I've somehow metamorphosed into some kind of upper class twit.
I come from a working class family but worked hard at school and managed to get to University. I fully approve of comprehensive education and believe that everyone, irrespective of their background, be given an equal opportunity. Whether they choose to take advantage of it or not is down to the individual. So please don't tar me with your own prejudices. "Yet you're quite happy to point out other people's failings... we actual Labour supporters can do without you champagne socialists thankyou very much. No matter how much you protest. | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! Nice one! another tory picking on working class people with lower education/ iq levels! Oh my heart bleeds for you! Will your skiing holidays be more expensive? Or your weekends in Paris not quite as slick through customs as they used to be!
Shows how much you can deduce from my posts. First, I've never voted Tory in my life nor would I ever. By tradition, I'm a Labour voter until they sold out. Second, I've never been on a skiing holiday and finally, I've never had a weekend in Paris although I did pass through it once.
My father actually worked in the coal mines around Edinburgh, not much of a Tory upbringing is it?
Just because I take a degree of pride in my grasp of the English language doesn't mean I've somehow metamorphosed into some kind of upper class twit.
I come from a working class family but worked hard at school and managed to get to University. I fully approve of comprehensive education and believe that everyone, irrespective of their background, be given an equal opportunity. Whether they choose to take advantage of it or not is down to the individual. So please don't tar me with your own prejudices.
Yet you're quite happy to point out other people's failings... we actual Labour supporters can do without you champagne socialists thankyou very much. No matter how much you protest. "Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Champagne but if you're buying, I'll have one. Frankly, poor standards in English isn't restricted to the working class no matter how much you appear to want it to be. I've met plenty of upper class twits with expensive educations that can't string a sentence together. Poor literacy is not the sole reserve of the working classes (if such a thing exists today). Anyway, how do you know Mr Suit is working class or is that just another assumption on your part? | |||
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"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After "I thought Wales also voted to leave the EU? | |||
"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After
I thought Wales also voted to leave the EU?"Indeed they did but Mr Suit will only be happy when England is all by itself in its own little world. All these wonderful trade deals will have come rolling in and they won't have to bother with those annoying countries next door. | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! Nice one! another tory picking on working class people with lower education/ iq levels! Oh my heart bleeds for you! Will your skiing holidays be more expensive? Or your weekends in Paris not quite as slick through customs as they used to be!
Shows how much you can deduce from my posts. First, I've never voted Tory in my life nor would I ever. By tradition, I'm a Labour voter until they sold out. Second, I've never been on a skiing holiday and finally, I've never had a weekend in Paris although I did pass through it once.
My father actually worked in the coal mines around Edinburgh, not much of a Tory upbringing is it?
Just because I take a degree of pride in my grasp of the English language doesn't mean I've somehow metamorphosed into some kind of upper class twit.
I come from a working class family but worked hard at school and managed to get to University. I fully approve of comprehensive education and believe that everyone, irrespective of their background, be given an equal opportunity. Whether they choose to take advantage of it or not is down to the individual. So please don't tar me with your own prejudices.
Yet you're quite happy to point out other people's failings... we actual Labour supporters can do without you champagne socialists thankyou very much. No matter how much you protest.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Champagne but if you're buying, I'll have one.
Frankly, poor standards in English isn't restricted to the working class no matter how much you appear to want it to be. I've met plenty of upper class twits with expensive educations that can't string a sentence together.
Poor literacy is not the sole reserve of the working classes (if such a thing exists today).
Anyway, how do you know Mr Suit is working class or is that just another assumption on your part? "Sorry, i don't know either way. But i don't have any respect for bullys like you. | |||
"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After "Oh dear. I am not English | |||
"Let's take it even further and have London cede from England. After all, the complaints about London from the rest of England and our obvious difference to the rest of the country provide a case." | |||
"Let's take it even further and have London cede from England. After all, the complaints about London from the rest of England and our obvious difference to the rest of the country provide a case. "There is a case for london being a special economic zone.Permits could be issued for free movement only to London for migrants. The visa would only be good for working inside M25. | |||
"Let's take it even further and have London cede from England. After all, the complaints about London from the rest of England and our obvious difference to the rest of the country provide a case." This idea does have merit. Especially considering my children's children will still be paying for the mistakes in London during the collapse. I wouldn't be sad for you to make your gambling and racketeering city, independent from the rest of the UK. | |||
"Let's take it even further and have London cede from England. After all, the complaints about London from the rest of England and our obvious difference to the rest of the country provide a case. There is a case for london being a special economic zone.Permits could be issued for free movement only to London for migrants. The visa would only be good for working inside M25. "The new Monte carlo! Apart from they call the gambling "banking". | |||
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"Let's take it even further and have London cede from England. After all, the complaints about London from the rest of England and our obvious difference to the rest of the country provide a case. This idea does have merit. Especially considering my children's children will still be paying for the mistakes in London during the collapse. I wouldn't be sad for you to make your gambling and racketeering city, independent from the rest of the UK. " Shouldn't your wrath be directed at the global banking sector.Rather than one city. | |||
"Greater London not just the city ... far more than the banking industry" What's the major industry of greater London? I need some info here. | |||
"Let's take it even further and have London cede from England. After all, the complaints about London from the rest of England and our obvious difference to the rest of the country provide a case. This idea does have merit. Especially considering my children's children will still be paying for the mistakes in London during the collapse. I wouldn't be sad for you to make your gambling and racketeering city, independent from the rest of the UK. Shouldn't your wrath be directed at the global banking sector.Rather than one city. "So one day London is a world leader in global finances, and the next "Oh it's not our fault! The big boys made me do it..." | |||
"Greater London not just the city ... far more than the banking industry What's the major industry of greater London? I need some info here." How many bankers and hedge fund managers make up the population of London .? | |||
"Greater London not just the city ... far more than the banking industry What's the major industry of greater London? I need some info here.How many bankers and hedge fund managers make up the population of London .?" It's OK to say that you don't know. You don't have to answer a question with a question. | |||
"Greater London not just the city ... far more than the banking industry What's the major industry of greater London? I need some info here.How many bankers and hedge fund managers make up the population of London .? It's OK to say that you don't know. You don't have to answer a question with a question. " Oh sorry you want me to say something obvious.Ok the finacial sector makes a huge amount of money in London.It's about 15% of the UK GDP.Is the banking sector the reason for the crash..duh. .of course.Did the other 99.99% of Londoners bring it about.. no.. | |||
"Greater London not just the city ... far more than the banking industry What's the major industry of greater London? I need some info here.How many bankers and hedge fund managers make up the population of London .? It's OK to say that you don't know. You don't have to answer a question with a question. Oh sorry you want me to say something obvious.Ok the finacial sector makes a huge amount of money in London.It's about 15% of the UK GDP.Is the banking sector the reason for the crash..duh. .of course.Did the other 99.99% of Londoners bring it about.. no.. "Soooo....... you still dont have an answer but you're happy to belittle me. Well I'm certainly impressed.. | |||
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" This is why i don't like arguing with Tories, they can't argue so they bully and belittle. And they wonder why the "working man" doesn't step into line. " Never voted tory always vote green. | |||
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" This is why i don't like arguing with Tories, they can't argue so they bully and belittle. And they wonder why the "working man" doesn't step into line. Never voted tory always vote green. "So you are a champagne socialist. I should have guessed. | |||
"One of the main reasons that manufacturing within the M25 boundary isn't a major force is commercial property prices in this region prohibit manufacturing growth. However, apart from the massive income from the City of London other sectors thrive in Greater London, including overseas Tourism....which is an industry in itself, up to £15bil annually in the capital. The service sector within Greater London is also massive, with more non banking Office jobs than the rest of the country put together. It's a mistake to view London only as a banking city..... taxable income is the measure of a successful economy, and London thrives. " So what are all these office jobs actually doing? How are they creating money? Where does it come from? | |||
"One of the main reasons that manufacturing within the M25 boundary isn't a major force is commercial property prices in this region prohibit manufacturing growth. However, apart from the massive income from the City of London other sectors thrive in Greater London, including overseas Tourism....which is an industry in itself, up to £15bil annually in the capital. The service sector within Greater London is also massive, with more non banking Office jobs than the rest of the country put together. It's a mistake to view London only as a banking city..... taxable income is the measure of a successful economy, and London thrives. So what are all these office jobs actually doing? How are they creating money? Where does it come from?" Taxable income, in other words income tax, corporation tax, VAT, business rates.....on top of that associated income from industries that service and supply these offices. It's simple business economics....... Happens all over the world | |||
" This is why i don't like arguing with Tories, they can't argue so they bully and belittle. And they wonder why the "working man" doesn't step into line. Never voted tory always vote green.
So you are a champagne socialist. I should have guessed. "Not a socialist or a liberal more a cider or rioja drinker.Never aquired the test for champagne.My politics are green.Not a fan of democracy .My preference is technocracy.Hopefully this helps your definition of me. | |||
" This is why i don't like arguing with Tories, they can't argue so they bully and belittle. And they wonder why the "working man" doesn't step into line. Never voted tory always vote green.
So you are a champagne socialist. I should have guessed. Not a socialist or a liberal more a cider or rioja drinker.Never aquired the test for champagne.My politics are green.Not a fan of democracy .My preference is technocracy.Hopefully this helps your definition of me. "A nimby essentially. | |||
"One of the main reasons that manufacturing within the M25 boundary isn't a major force is commercial property prices in this region prohibit manufacturing growth. However, apart from the massive income from the City of London other sectors thrive in Greater London, including overseas Tourism....which is an industry in itself, up to £15bil annually in the capital. The service sector within Greater London is also massive, with more non banking Office jobs than the rest of the country put together. It's a mistake to view London only as a banking city..... taxable income is the measure of a successful economy, and London thrives. So what are all these office jobs actually doing? How are they creating money? Where does it come from? Taxable income, in other words income tax, corporation tax, VAT, business rates.....on top of that associated income from industries that service and supply these offices. It's simple business economics....... Happens all over the world" So it's essentially made up money travelling round and around electronically? You didn't really say what the service sector is servicing? | |||
"One of the main reasons that manufacturing within the M25 boundary isn't a major force is commercial property prices in this region prohibit manufacturing growth. However, apart from the massive income from the City of London other sectors thrive in Greater London, including overseas Tourism....which is an industry in itself, up to £15bil annually in the capital. The service sector within Greater London is also massive, with more non banking Office jobs than the rest of the country put together. It's a mistake to view London only as a banking city..... taxable income is the measure of a successful economy, and London thrives. So what are all these office jobs actually doing? How are they creating money? Where does it come from? Taxable income, in other words income tax, corporation tax, VAT, business rates.....on top of that associated income from industries that service and supply these offices. It's simple business economics....... Happens all over the world So it's essentially made up money travelling round and around electronically? You didn't really say what the service sector is servicing? " All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. | |||
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"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! Nice one! another tory picking on working class people with lower education/ iq levels! Oh my heart bleeds for you! Will your skiing holidays be more expensive? Or your weekends in Paris not quite as slick through customs as they used to be!
Shows how much you can deduce from my posts. First, I've never voted Tory in my life nor would I ever. By tradition, I'm a Labour voter until they sold out. Second, I've never been on a skiing holiday and finally, I've never had a weekend in Paris although I did pass through it once.
My father actually worked in the coal mines around Edinburgh, not much of a Tory upbringing is it?
Just because I take a degree of pride in my grasp of the English language doesn't mean I've somehow metamorphosed into some kind of upper class twit.
I come from a working class family but worked hard at school and managed to get to University. I fully approve of comprehensive education and believe that everyone, irrespective of their background, be given an equal opportunity. Whether they choose to take advantage of it or not is down to the individual. So please don't tar me with your own prejudices.
Yet you're quite happy to point out other people's failings... we actual Labour supporters can do without you champagne socialists thankyou very much. No matter how much you protest.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Champagne but if you're buying, I'll have one.
Frankly, poor standards in English isn't restricted to the working class no matter how much you appear to want it to be. I've met plenty of upper class twits with expensive educations that can't string a sentence together.
Poor literacy is not the sole reserve of the working classes (if such a thing exists today).
Anyway, how do you know Mr Suit is working class or is that just another assumption on your part?
Sorry, i don't know either way. But i don't have any respect for bullys like you. " | |||
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"One of the main reasons that manufacturing within the M25 boundary isn't a major force is commercial property prices in this region prohibit manufacturing growth. However, apart from the massive income from the City of London other sectors thrive in Greater London, including overseas Tourism....which is an industry in itself, up to £15bil annually in the capital. The service sector within Greater London is also massive, with more non banking Office jobs than the rest of the country put together. It's a mistake to view London only as a banking city..... taxable income is the measure of a successful economy, and London thrives. So what are all these office jobs actually doing? How are they creating money? Where does it come from? Taxable income, in other words income tax, corporation tax, VAT, business rates.....on top of that associated income from industries that service and supply these offices. It's simple business economics....... Happens all over the world So it's essentially made up money travelling round and around electronically? You didn't really say what the service sector is servicing? All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work." | |||
"And Clem....I noticed you accused someone else of bullying, you need to be careful here as some of your posts show a similar trait. " I'm not having a go at anyone for spelling or grammar. But i appreciate the heads up. I will endeavour not to drop to their level. | |||
" This is why i don't like arguing with Tories, they can't argue so they bully and belittle. And they wonder why the "working man" doesn't step into line. Never voted tory always vote green.
So you are a champagne socialist. I should have guessed. Not a socialist or a liberal more a cider or rioja drinker.Never aquired the test for champagne.My politics are green.Not a fan of democracy .My preference is technocracy.Hopefully this helps your definition of me. "It's not very green or environmentally friendly to go around burning cars out and other stuff is it? Which you've openly admitted on here is what you do. | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work." So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. | |||
" This is why i don't like arguing with Tories, they can't argue so they bully and belittle. And they wonder why the "working man" doesn't step into line. Never voted tory always vote green.
So you are a champagne socialist. I should have guessed. Not a socialist or a liberal more a cider or rioja drinker.Never aquired the test for champagne.My politics are green.Not a fan of democracy .My preference is technocracy.Hopefully this helps your definition of me.
It's not very green or environmentally friendly to go around burning cars out and other stuff is it? Which you've openly admitted on here is what you do. "That's just sad and why I stopped getting involved in this forum ... too many people with too much time on their hands. | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance." That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling " Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance." In much the same way that the foreign owners of our car manufacturing sector could easily relocate production overseas.....employment evolves and has done for centuries and all over the western world. Population also dictates | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? " Its a long way to travel and school places are a premium | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? Its a long way to travel and school places are a premium" What are you on about? How have you got education mixed up with office jobs moving out of London? | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. In much the same way that the foreign owners of our car manufacturing sector could easily relocate production overseas.....employment evolves and has done for centuries and all over the western world. Population also dictates" Absolutely. Although harder to walk away from such a massive infrastructure investment i would imagine. | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? Its a long way to travel and school places are a premium What are you on about? How have you got education mixed up with office jobs moving out of London? " Education is up there in the quote. There are lots of jobs in local government including education. A quick bit of internet research or common knowledge will tell you where London's economy is and its not all about banking. Unless you are deliberately trying to be argumentative .... for a change | |||
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" This is why i don't like arguing with Tories, they can't argue so they bully and belittle. And they wonder why the "working man" doesn't step into line. Never voted tory always vote green.
So you are a champagne socialist. I should have guessed. Not a socialist or a liberal more a cider or rioja drinker.Never aquired the test for champagne.My politics are green.Not a fan of democracy .My preference is technocracy.Hopefully this helps your definition of me.
It's not very green or environmentally friendly to go around burning cars out and other stuff is it? Which you've openly admitted on here is what you do. "Poor old centaur.You must try harder I've touched a nerve i think in another thread. I was 13 when i got involved with some deviant behaviour, the teenage years can be difficult .I gave that information freely on here.Doesnt bother me one bit that you think thats the one stick you want to use when your mind is a void..Says volumes about you though. Your faux rage at something i did 30 years ago is amusing.Mention it as freely as you like if you think at diminshes anything i say.Start a thread entiltled what bob did when he was 13. | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? Its a long way to travel and school places are a premium What are you on about? How have you got education mixed up with office jobs moving out of London? Education is up there in the quote. There are lots of jobs in local government including education. A quick bit of internet research or common knowledge will tell you where London's economy is and its not all about banking. Unless you are deliberately trying to be argumentative .... for a change" That's what this part of the forum is for isn't it? | |||
" This is why i don't like arguing with Tories, they can't argue so they bully and belittle. And they wonder why the "working man" doesn't step into line. Never voted tory always vote green.
So you are a champagne socialist. I should have guessed. Not a socialist or a liberal more a cider or rioja drinker.Never aquired the test for champagne.My politics are green.Not a fan of democracy .My preference is technocracy.Hopefully this helps your definition of me.
It's not very green or environmentally friendly to go around burning cars out and other stuff is it? Which you've openly admitted on here is what you do. Poor old centaur.You must try harder I've touched a nerve i think in another thread. I was 13 when i got involved with some deviant behaviour, the teenage years can be difficult .I gave that information freely on here.Doesnt bother me one bit that you think thats the one stick you want to use when your mind is a void..Says volumes about you though.Your faux rage at something i did 30 years ago is amusing.Mention it as freely as you like if you think at diminshes anything i say.Start a thread entiltled what bob did when he was 13. "Nicely belittled.. | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? Its a long way to travel and school places are a premium What are you on about? How have you got education mixed up with office jobs moving out of London? Education is up there in the quote. There are lots of jobs in local government including education. A quick bit of internet research or common knowledge will tell you where London's economy is and its not all about banking. Unless you are deliberately trying to be argumentative .... for a change That's what this part of the forum is for isn't it?" Sadly it is the only part of the forum that is, these days | |||
" This is why i don't like arguing with Tories, they can't argue so they bully and belittle. And they wonder why the "working man" doesn't step into line. Never voted tory always vote green.
So you are a champagne socialist. I should have guessed. Not a socialist or a liberal more a cider or rioja drinker.Never aquired the test for champagne.My politics are green.Not a fan of democracy .My preference is technocracy.Hopefully this helps your definition of me.
It's not very green or environmentally friendly to go around burning cars out and other stuff is it? Which you've openly admitted on here is what you do. Poor old centaur.You must try harder I've touched a nerve i think in another thread. I was 13 when i got involved with some deviant behaviour, the teenage years can be difficult .I gave that information freely on here.Doesnt bother me one bit that you think thats the one stick you want to use when your mind is a void..Says volumes about you though.Your faux rage at something i did 30 years ago is amusing.Mention it as freely as you like if you think at diminshes anything i say.Start a thread entiltled what bob did when he was 13. " | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? Its a long way to travel and school places are a premium What are you on about? How have you got education mixed up with office jobs moving out of London? Education is up there in the quote. There are lots of jobs in local government including education. A quick bit of internet research or common knowledge will tell you where London's economy is and its not all about banking. Unless you are deliberately trying to be argumentative .... for a change That's what this part of the forum is for isn't it?" no, you're supposed to agree with the self virtue seekers here | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? Its a long way to travel and school places are a premium What are you on about? How have you got education mixed up with office jobs moving out of London? Education is up there in the quote. There are lots of jobs in local government including education. A quick bit of internet research or common knowledge will tell you where London's economy is and its not all about banking. Unless you are deliberately trying to be argumentative .... for a change That's what this part of the forum is for isn't it? no, you're supposed to agree with the self virtue seekers here "Arguments here involve bullying, putting people down, swearing and making racist remarks .... which is why I hardly ever post now. This thread hasn't been bad, so far ... I fear its about to change though | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? Its a long way to travel and school places are a premium What are you on about? How have you got education mixed up with office jobs moving out of London? Education is up there in the quote. There are lots of jobs in local government including education. A quick bit of internet research or common knowledge will tell you where London's economy is and its not all about banking. Unless you are deliberately trying to be argumentative .... for a change That's what this part of the forum is for isn't it? no, you're supposed to agree with the self virtue seekers here
Arguments here involve bullying, putting people down, swearing and making racist remarks .... which is why I hardly ever post now. This thread hasn't been bad, so far ... I fear its about to change though
"Its not all bad.Dont expext much from debate on here. Its just pulling the argument back and forth onto ground that justifies a position.Winning a debate just means you are a better at debating it doesn't mean you're correct.Its not like science or engineering were 2+2 =4 .The planes would fall out the sky if 2+2=4 was up for debate .. | |||
" All the things you and most of us take for granted, insurance, warranties, subscription TV, overseas holidays, utilities, government, defence, education, communications......the everyday things we expect to work rarely wonder how they work. So nothing that needs to stay within greater London then. A utility could operate just as easily in Sheffield for instance. That is true, send all the kids to Sheffield to get their schooling Is there something wrong with the education system in Sheffield? Its a long way to travel and school places are a premium What are you on about? How have you got education mixed up with office jobs moving out of London? Education is up there in the quote. There are lots of jobs in local government including education. A quick bit of internet research or common knowledge will tell you where London's economy is and its not all about banking. Unless you are deliberately trying to be argumentative .... for a change That's what this part of the forum is for isn't it? no, you're supposed to agree with the self virtue seekers here
Arguments here involve bullying, putting people down, swearing and making racist remarks .... which is why I hardly ever post now. This thread hasn't been bad, so far ... I fear its about to change though
Its not all bad.Dont expext much from debate on here. Its just pulling the argument back and forth onto ground that justifies a position.Winning a debate just means you are a better at debating it doesn't mean you're correct.Its not like science or engineering were 2+2 =4 .The planes would fall out the sky if 2+2=4 was up for debate .. "Trust me, I have been on and off these forums a long time .... | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! Nice one! another tory picking on working class people with lower education/ iq levels! Oh my heart bleeds for you! Will your skiing holidays be more expensive? Or your weekends in Paris not quite as slick through customs as they used to be!
Shows how much you can deduce from my posts. First, I've never voted Tory in my life nor would I ever. By tradition, I'm a Labour voter until they sold out. Second, I've never been on a skiing holiday and finally, I've never had a weekend in Paris although I did pass through it once.
My father actually worked in the coal mines around Edinburgh, not much of a Tory upbringing is it?
Just because I take a degree of pride in my grasp of the English language doesn't mean I've somehow metamorphosed into some kind of upper class twit.
I come from a working class family but worked hard at school and managed to get to University. I fully approve of comprehensive education and believe that everyone, irrespective of their background, be given an equal opportunity. Whether they choose to take advantage of it or not is down to the individual. So please don't tar me with your own prejudices.
Yet you're quite happy to point out other people's failings... we actual Labour supporters can do without you champagne socialists thankyou very much. No matter how much you protest.
Personally, I'm not a huge fan of Champagne but if you're buying, I'll have one.
Frankly, poor standards in English isn't restricted to the working class no matter how much you appear to want it to be. I've met plenty of upper class twits with expensive educations that can't string a sentence together.
Poor literacy is not the sole reserve of the working classes (if such a thing exists today).
Anyway, how do you know Mr Suit is working class or is that just another assumption on your part?
Sorry, i don't know either way. But i don't have any respect for bullys like you. "I'm not quite sure how you assume I'm bullying anyone? Who and how, precisely, have I been involved in bullying? As another poster has already pointed out, you're the one that appears to be verging on bullying. You certainly appear to assume that anyone who disagrees with you is either a Tory, a champagne socialist (which, I assume, is some kind of insult, in your mind) or a nimby. In my original post, I criticised poor spelling and lack of grammar neither of which, to my mind is bullying. You are the one that implied that it was an a attack on 'the working class' which it certainly wasn't. As I've already pointed out, poor spelling is not the sole reserve of any social class. If you're going to accuse anyone of bullying, I suggest you put your own house in order first. | |||
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" Just here: "Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers!" " Sorry, but in what way is that bullying? It's a critique on what I see as a basic lack of knowledge of the English language by many proponents of Brexit. Mr Suit have frequently posted on his desire to see an 'independent England' and to disassociate with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. He is, of course, perfectly entitled to his point of view. I merely suggested he might have a stronger argument if he had a better command of the language of the country he so fervently wishes to see independent. No bullying intended or implied. | |||
" Just here: "Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers!" Sorry, but in what way is that bullying? It's a critique on what I see as a basic lack of knowledge of the English language by many proponents of Brexit. Mr Suit have frequently posted on his desire to see an 'independent England' and to disassociate with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. He is, of course, perfectly entitled to his point of view. I merely suggested he might have a stronger argument if he had a better command of the language of the country he so fervently wishes to see independent. No bullying intended or implied." He have indeed. I take it you're a Brexiter? | |||
" Just here: "Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers!" Sorry, but in what way is that bullying? It's a critique on what I see as a basic lack of knowledge of the English language by many proponents of Brexit. Mr Suit have frequently posted on his desire to see an 'independent England' and to disassociate with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. He is, of course, perfectly entitled to his point of view. I merely suggested he might have a stronger argument if he had a better command of the language of the country he so fervently wishes to see independent. No bullying intended or implied." The point is, that you are playing the man, not the ball (as it were). Although in some cases round here, it's quite difficult not to do that... | |||
" Just here: "Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers!" Sorry, but in what way is that bullying? It's a critique on what I see as a basic lack of knowledge of the English language by many proponents of Brexit. Mr Suit have frequently posted on his desire to see an 'independent England' and to disassociate with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. He is, of course, perfectly entitled to his point of view. I merely suggested he might have a stronger argument if he had a better command of the language of the country he so fervently wishes to see independent. No bullying intended or implied." What bearing would his spelling have on the validity of his argument? You were making a cheap shot. | |||
" Just here: "Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers!" Sorry, but in what way is that bullying? It's a critique on what I see as a basic lack of knowledge of the English language by many proponents of Brexit. Mr Suit have frequently posted on his desire to see an 'independent England' and to disassociate with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. He is, of course, perfectly entitled to his point of view. I merely suggested he might have a stronger argument if he had a better command of the language of the country he so fervently wishes to see independent. No bullying intended or implied. What bearing would his spelling have on the validity of his argument? You were making a cheap shot. " I'm not really sure why you're taking up cudgels on his behalf? Mr Suit has already responded to my comments and admitted that spelling isn't his strong point which is fair enough. The validity of any statement is made stronger by the proper use of grammar and english. Ask any employer if they're going to take more notice of a well crafted CV or one filled with spelling and grammatical errors. Sorry if that offends your socialist point of view and gives the impression I'm a closet Tory but it's a fact of life. A well prepared and written argument will win over a poorly written one every time. Finally, (because I've had enough of this pointless argument) there is a difference between a 'cheap shot' and bullying but you seem, somehow, to have made the leap. In what way is my 'cheap shot' any different from you calling me and other contributors champagne socialists or nimbys? I suggest you put your own house in order before you accuse others of bullying and taking cheap shots. | |||
" Just here: "Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers!" Sorry, but in what way is that bullying? It's a critique on what I see as a basic lack of knowledge of the English language by many proponents of Brexit. Mr Suit have frequently posted on his desire to see an 'independent England' and to disassociate with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. He is, of course, perfectly entitled to his point of view. I merely suggested he might have a stronger argument if he had a better command of the language of the country he so fervently wishes to see independent. No bullying intended or implied. What bearing would his spelling have on the validity of his argument? You were making a cheap shot. I'm not really sure why you're taking up cudgels on his behalf? Mr Suit has already responded to my comments and admitted that spelling isn't his strong point which is fair enough. The validity of any statement is made stronger by the proper use of grammar and english. Ask any employer if they're going to take more notice of a well crafted CV or one filled with spelling and grammatical errors. Sorry if that offends your socialist point of view and gives the impression I'm a closet Tory but it's a fact of life. A well prepared and written argument will win over a poorly written one every time. Finally, (because I've had enough of this pointless argument) there is a difference between a 'cheap shot' and bullying but you seem, somehow, to have made the leap. In what way is my 'cheap shot' any different from you calling me and other contributors champagne socialists or nimbys? I suggest you put your own house in order before you accuse others of bullying and taking cheap shots." Of course you'd deflect the blame i applaud you | |||
"Idependance would not mean they could stay in the eu. Spain has said many times that they would block scotland from joining so guess that goes for any of the others.They have thier own problems with independance and are not going to encourage it so have no idea how the home nations will beable to join." No they didnt. Show me where Spain's PM has come out and said it otherwise it is the British media bullshit | |||
I still believe in English Independance tho | |||
"One of the main reasons that manufacturing within the M25 boundary isn't a major force is commercial property prices in this region prohibit manufacturing growth. However, apart from the massive income from the City of London other sectors thrive in Greater London, including overseas Tourism....which is an industry in itself, up to £15bil annually in the capital. The service sector within Greater London is also massive, with more non banking Office jobs than the rest of the country put together. It's a mistake to view London only as a banking city..... taxable income is the measure of a successful economy, and London thrives. " . I don't think that's true. Beijing factory floor prices start at about £3000 a sq meter! Yet it still manufactures stuff, so does Shanghai. The reason they stopped manufacturer in London along with many other capital cities in Europe was just infrastructure, you could never ever get vast volumes of stuff in and out of London, it would just be stuck in a traffic jam for hours on end, also there's just not enough water or power, on top of that like every other capital it's hugely expensive for labour due to over priced residential prices and the knock on of service prices. In reality it is the emperors new clothes held together by huge debt and political will | |||
"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After "What a good idea. | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! " No they would not qualify as uber drivers because they are British | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! Nice one! another tory picking on working class people with lower education/ iq levels! Oh my heart bleeds for you! Will your skiing holidays be more expensive? Or your weekends in Paris not quite as slick through customs as they used to be!
Shows how much you can deduce from my posts. First, I've never voted Tory in my life nor would I ever. By tradition, I'm a Labour voter until they sold out. Second, I've never been on a skiing holiday and finally, I've never had a weekend in Paris although I did pass through it once.
My father actually worked in the coal mines around Edinburgh, not much of a Tory upbringing is it?
Just because I take a degree of pride in my grasp of the English language doesn't mean I've somehow metamorphosed into some kind of upper class twit.
I come from a working class family but worked hard at school and managed to get to University. I fully approve of comprehensive education and believe that everyone, irrespective of their background, be given an equal opportunity. Whether they choose to take advantage of it or not is down to the individual. So please don't tar me with your own prejudices.
Yet you're quite happy to point out other people's failings... we actual Labour supporters can do without you champagne socialists thankyou very much. No matter how much you protest. "Mate, if you were representative (you're not) of the Labour membership, your party is more heavily fucked than anybody could believe. The shit I've seen you post in this thread is breathtaking, absolutely neanderthalic horse shit. Worst of all, you actually believe what you're saying. Critical thinking. Two words that are undoubtedly completely alien to you. | |||
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"I try to overlook grammar and spelling.Auto correct and using mobiles plays a part.Pick apart the argument not the sentence.
What can I say?
I'm a grammar Nazi
Still hate the word 'Brexiteer'."At least,you know how to spell it now.  | |||
lol
Ps Bring it on ! Independence for England | |||
"Funny how thier are no replys when you take the name of Scotland away from the word Independence ! Very good, Mr Suit. We've all seen your very frequent posts on how much you'd love to see an independent England. Perhaps you'd have a better argument if you'd learn the difference between 'there' and 'their' and how to spell. It amazes me how many 'Brexeteers' (how I hate that word) can't spell and don't appear to have a fundamental grasp of the English language. Many wouldn't even qualify as Uber drivers! Nice one! another tory picking on working class people with lower education/ iq levels! Oh my heart bleeds for you! Will your skiing holidays be more expensive? Or your weekends in Paris not quite as slick through customs as they used to be!
Shows how much you can deduce from my posts. First, I've never voted Tory in my life nor would I ever. By tradition, I'm a Labour voter until they sold out. Second, I've never been on a skiing holiday and finally, I've never had a weekend in Paris although I did pass through it once.
My father actually worked in the coal mines around Edinburgh, not much of a Tory upbringing is it?
Just because I take a degree of pride in my grasp of the English language doesn't mean I've somehow metamorphosed into some kind of upper class twit.
I come from a working class family but worked hard at school and managed to get to University. I fully approve of comprehensive education and believe that everyone, irrespective of their background, be given an equal opportunity. Whether they choose to take advantage of it or not is down to the individual. So please don't tar me with your own prejudices.
Yet you're quite happy to point out other people's failings... we actual Labour supporters can do without you champagne socialists thankyou very much. No matter how much you protest.
Mate, if you were representative (you're not) of the Labour membership, your party is more heavily fucked than anybody could believe. The shit I've seen you post in this thread is breathtaking, absolutely neanderthalic horse shit. Worst of all, you actually believe what you're saying. Critical thinking. Two words that are undoubtedly completely alien to you. "Do you have any evidence for any of that statement. Rather than "the shit I've seen you post". Clearly you weren't captain of the debating team, but at least try. Take your time by all means. | |||
"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After ""us English" | |||
"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After
"us English"
"ok we English | |||
"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After
"us English"
ok we English
"why does ("asshole") spring to mind? | |||
"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After
"us English"
ok we English
why does ("asshole") spring to mind?"So I'm an Arshole for wanting an independent England ? Of course if I was Scottish or Irish it would be ok then ! Wouldn't it | |||
"With all the segueing over Brexit , why not fully sort things and have a referendum for all 4 members of the Uk on independence ! If England leave , the other 3 Country's could stay as the uk and stay in EEC ! And us English could live independently happy ever After
"us English"
ok we English
why does ("asshole") spring to mind?
So I'm an Arshole for wanting an independent England ? Of course if I was Scottish or Irish it would be ok then ! Wouldn't it " 'tis the rules! | |||
