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Should the NHS be means tested?
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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There is a poll going on on a other site on this so I thought it would be good to compare results off here...being it people with strong views. So please if you need to comment do so but can you start of with a yes or no....it makes counting easier  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No. Why should I pay again for something that I already contribute for through my NI contributions, so the lazy arses who won't work can get it free? All this would affect are the average workers. Those who are on benefits wouldn't pay and those that are rich would have private health care or not be bothered about cost. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No. Why should I pay again for something that I already contribute for through my NI contributions, so the lazy arses who won't work can get it free? All this would affect are the average workers. Those who are on benefits wouldn't pay and those that are rich would have private health care or not be bothered about cost. "
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Well that seems to be going the same way thank god...but have a look at the rest they are voting on
Free bus passes for over-65s Means-tested Available to all
Disability benefits Means-tested Available to all
Free NHS access Means-tested Available to all
The full student loan (ie, means-tested on parental income) Means-tested Available to all
Free care home access Means-tested Available to all
European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) Means-tested Available to all
Free school transport for under-16s Means-tested Available to all
Sight/hearing tests Means-tested Available to all
Free museum access Means-tested Available to all
Child benefit Means-tested Available to all
NHS prescriptions Means-tested Available to all
Free TV licences for over-75s Means-tested Available to all
State pension Means-tested Available to all
Free school meals (ie, means-tested on parental income) Means-tested Available to all
Free library access Means-tested Available to all
Passport costs Means-tested Available to all.
It's too big a list to do a poll on here but please comment on any you would means test |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Yes.
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As soon as illness and injury are also means tested and only impact those with the ability to pay. Until then, no. "
No ! Ps you had me going then  |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"There is a poll going on on a other site on this so I thought it would be good to compare results off here...being it people with strong views. So please if you need to comment do so but can you start of with a yes or no....it makes counting easier "
maybe?
Or we increase NI contributions to put more in?
Or maybe those who abuse the NHS - be charged a fixed penalty -e.g. need an ambulance as a taxi, self inflicted - d*unk from binge drinking?
Or plug some of the tax avoidance schemes - before someone can be a limited company that have to have a turnover of £1m to stop the dividends scandal?
Or an education program about the NHS - use pharmacies more before going to the doctor?
Surgeries opening at 6am - 6pm so people can use them when it suits them?
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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Or plug some of the tax avoidance schemes - before someone can be a limited company that have to have a turnover of £1m to stop the dividends scandal?
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Wow... nice way to kill off any small business revenue in the UK.  I ran a limited company for 15 years that almost hit the £1M turnover mark, but not quite. We employed 15 people at our peak. Salary and tax accounted for about 70% of our outgoings.
-Matt |
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
The NHS of today is not the NHS of its conception day.
A serious cross-party debate in both Houses please.
Something meaningful needs to be done for our children and grand-children to have as a legacy. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Or plug some of the tax avoidance schemes - before someone can be a limited company that have to have a turnover of £1m to stop the dividends scandal?
Wow... nice way to kill off any small business revenue in the UK. I ran a limited company for 15 years that almost hit the £1M turnover mark, but not quite. We employed 15 people at our peak. Salary and tax accounted for about 70% of our outgoings.
-Matt"
Understand what your saying - was aimed at 1 man band on minimal turnovers. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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Or plug some of the tax avoidance schemes - before someone can be a limited company that have to have a turnover of £1m to stop the dividends scandal?
Wow... nice way to kill off any small business revenue in the UK. I ran a limited company for 15 years that almost hit the £1M turnover mark, but not quite. We employed 15 people at our peak. Salary and tax accounted for about 70% of our outgoings.
-Matt
Understand what your saying - was aimed at 1 man band on minimal turnovers. "
Fair enough... but that company started as a 1 man band. As is my current company.
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"NO
on saying that I am at this moment sitting in a private room awaiting an operation through private health insurance. This is saving NHS costs"
Well, perhaps to a certain extent. Bear in mind that the Doctor and staff operating on you will have had very expensive training thanks to the state funded NHS. I say this as someone who had also benefited from private medical insurance but I am mindful of the fact that those who treated me were NHS employees working privately part time. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"Well that seems to be going the same way thank god...but have a look at the rest they are voting on
Free bus passes for over-65s Means-tested Available to all
Disability benefits Means-tested Available to all
Free NHS access Means-tested Available to all
The full student loan (ie, means-tested on parental income) Means-tested Available to all
Free care home access Means-tested Available to all
European Health Insurance Card (EHIC) Means-tested Available to all
Free school transport for under-16s Means-tested Available to all
Sight/hearing tests Means-tested Available to all
Free museum access Means-tested Available to all
Child benefit Means-tested Available to all
NHS prescriptions Means-tested Available to all
Free TV licences for over-75s Means-tested Available to all
State pension Means-tested Available to all
Free school meals (ie, means-tested on parental income) Means-tested Available to all
Free library access Means-tested Available to all
Passport costs Means-tested Available to all.
It's too big a list to do a poll on here but please comment on any you would means test "
Every item on this list has reasons for yes and no,but basically I believe that the NHS should only be for those who are British,and people who choose to live abroad should not be allowed certain benefits,ie heating allowance.
Also there should be no private medical system,there should be a two teir NHS only.If you wish to pay you can,get the treatment you get now but the money goes to the NHS not private companies.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"NO
on saying that I am at this moment sitting in a private room awaiting an operation through private health insurance. This is saving NHS costs
Well, perhaps to a certain extent. Bear in mind that the Doctor and staff operating on you will have had very expensive training thanks to the state funded NHS. I say this as someone who had also benefited from private medical insurance but I am mindful of the fact that those who treated me were NHS employees working privately part time. "
Yes absolutely,
but the difference being, is that I selected / chose the surgeon
and from initial GP meeting to obtain referral,- to first consultation including MRI scan on same day was a total of 5 days
then surgical operation in theatre was a further 9 days (through my choice of date)
you also receive better pain medication (oxy) and after care is first class.
NHS is good, but I chose private health care as I consider my health as number 1 priority
some wont think twice about purchasing an expensive car but wont pay for medical care |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No
But the same goes for other benefits. If you lose your job and your partner is wealthy, you're not entitled to much. Even though you're making a bigger contribution. |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago
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"NO
on saying that I am at this moment sitting in a private room awaiting an operation through private health insurance. This is saving NHS costs
Well, perhaps to a certain extent. Bear in mind that the Doctor and staff operating on you will have had very expensive training thanks to the state funded NHS. I say this as someone who had also benefited from private medical insurance but I am mindful of the fact that those who treated me were NHS employees working privately part time.
Yes absolutely,
but the difference being, is that I selected / chose the surgeon
and from initial GP meeting to obtain referral,- to first consultation including MRI scan on same day was a total of 5 days
then surgical operation in theatre was a further 9 days (through my choice of date)
you also receive better pain medication (oxy) and after care is first class.
NHS is good, but I chose private health care as I consider my health as number 1 priority
some wont think twice about purchasing an expensive car but wont pay for medical care"
I am waiting for surgery at present and cannot afford private but have chosen my surgeon.The result is I am waiting months for surgery and I am in pain constantly,is this right?
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"NO
on saying that I am at this moment sitting in a private room awaiting an operation through private health insurance. This is saving NHS costs
Well, perhaps to a certain extent. Bear in mind that the Doctor and staff operating on you will have had very expensive training thanks to the state funded NHS. I say this as someone who had also benefited from private medical insurance but I am mindful of the fact that those who treated me were NHS employees working privately part time.
Yes absolutely,
but the difference being, is that I selected / chose the surgeon
and from initial GP meeting to obtain referral,- to first consultation including MRI scan on same day was a total of 5 days
then surgical operation in theatre was a further 9 days (through my choice of date)
you also receive better pain medication (oxy) and after care is first class.
NHS is good, but I chose private health care as I consider my health as number 1 priority
some wont think twice about purchasing an expensive car but wont pay for medical careI am waiting for surgery at present and cannot afford private but have chosen my surgeon.The result is I am waiting months for surgery and I am in pain constantly,is this right?
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wait times are disappointing and one of the reasons I chose to go private, you also get better recovery treatment & medications.
one interesting small point; post operation, the whole hospital was fully evacuated due to a bomb scare, \surgery was still ongoing for some patients and had to be halted.
Police said this was the 2nd Edinburgh hospital to receive a bomb threat that night
strange who no news station covered this, police told a nurse that the phone calls were from overseas and a new way of disrupting services |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
Cambridge |
"NO
on saying that I am at this moment sitting in a private room awaiting an operation through private health insurance. This is saving NHS costs
Well, perhaps to a certain extent. Bear in mind that the Doctor and staff operating on you will have had very expensive training thanks to the state funded NHS. I say this as someone who had also benefited from private medical insurance but I am mindful of the fact that those who treated me were NHS employees working privately part time.
Yes absolutely,
but the difference being, is that I selected / chose the surgeon
and from initial GP meeting to obtain referral,- to first consultation including MRI scan on same day was a total of 5 days
then surgical operation in theatre was a further 9 days (through my choice of date)
you also receive better pain medication (oxy) and after care is first class.
NHS is good, but I chose private health care as I consider my health as number 1 priority
some wont think twice about purchasing an expensive car but wont pay for medical careI am waiting for surgery at present and cannot afford private but have chosen my surgeon.The result is I am waiting months for surgery and I am in pain constantly,is this right?
wait times are disappointing and one of the reasons I chose to go private, you also get better recovery treatment & medications.
one interesting small point; post operation, the whole hospital was fully evacuated due to a bomb scare, \surgery was still ongoing for some patients and had to be halted.
Police said this was the 2nd Edinburgh hospital to receive a bomb threat that night
strange who no news station covered this, police told a nurse that the phone calls were from overseas and a new way of disrupting services"
Who knows, it could be Putin's henchmen? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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No.
The super rich go private anyway and lots of large corporations give their employees BUPA or similar. If it was means tested how would it be funded? Wouldn't it fall apart if only the poorest were getting treatment , who's paying into it then ? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No.
The super rich go private anyway and lots of large corporations give their employees BUPA or similar. If it was means tested how would it be funded? Wouldn't it fall apart if only the poorest were getting treatment , who's paying into it then ? "
strange how "the poorest" can afford sky tv an mobile phones, yet they cannot afford private health care
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guess its all down to priorities |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No.
The super rich go private anyway and lots of large corporations give their employees BUPA or similar. If it was means tested how would it be funded? Wouldn't it fall apart if only the poorest were getting treatment , who's paying into it then ?
strange how "the poorest" can afford sky tv an mobile phones, yet they cannot afford private health care
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guess its all down to priorities "
Very true. Netflix is much cheaper. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"No.
The super rich go private anyway and lots of large corporations give their employees BUPA or similar. If it was means tested how would it be funded? Wouldn't it fall apart if only the poorest were getting treatment , who's paying into it then ?
strange how "the poorest" can afford sky tv an mobile phones, yet they cannot afford private health care
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guess its all down to priorities "
To be honest a mobile phone is dirt cheap and a necessity in life today...and as for sky TV. ...I think the poorest are not daft enough to pay to view what can be got for free  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"No.
The super rich go private anyway and lots of large corporations give their employees BUPA or similar. If it was means tested how would it be funded? Wouldn't it fall apart if only the poorest were getting treatment , who's paying into it then ?
strange how "the poorest" can afford sky tv an mobile phones, yet they cannot afford private health care
.
guess its all down to priorities
To be honest a mobile phone is dirt cheap and a necessity in life today...and as for sky TV. ...I think the poorest are not daft enough to pay to view what can be got for free "
lol - a mobile phone is a necessity in life
what a sad world |
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By *orum TrollWoman
over a year ago
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"No.
The super rich go private anyway and lots of large corporations give their employees BUPA or similar. If it was means tested how would it be funded? Wouldn't it fall apart if only the poorest were getting treatment , who's paying into it then ?
strange how "the poorest" can afford sky tv an mobile phones, yet they cannot afford private health care
.
guess its all down to priorities
To be honest a mobile phone is dirt cheap and a necessity in life today...and as for sky TV. ...I think the poorest are not daft enough to pay to view what can be got for free
lol - a mobile phone is a necessity in life
what a sad world"
if the job centre needs to call you, you need a phone.
my opinion of sad is looking at poor people and thinking they should have nothing just because there is a economical system in place that ensures there are poor people. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"No.
The super rich go private anyway and lots of large corporations give their employees BUPA or similar. If it was means tested how would it be funded? Wouldn't it fall apart if only the poorest were getting treatment , who's paying into it then ?
strange how "the poorest" can afford sky tv an mobile phones, yet they cannot afford private health care
.
guess its all down to priorities
To be honest a mobile phone is dirt cheap and a necessity in life today...and as for sky TV. ...I think the poorest are not daft enough to pay to view what can be got for free
lol - a mobile phone is a necessity in life
what a sad world
if the job centre needs to call you, you need a phone.
my opinion of sad is looking at poor people and thinking they should have nothing just because there is a economical system in place that ensures there are poor people."
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