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So it seems the majority of the UK are anti Trump based on these surveys. Or at least anyone who has any feeling one way or another seems to be largely negative.
Should May have invited Trump considering no other recent US president got an invitation in their first year never mind their first week?
Is May feeling pressure to get in good with the Donald because Hard Brexit means the US is essential to the UKs economic future? |
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"So it seems the majority of the UK are anti Trump based on these surveys. Or at least anyone who has any feeling one way or another seems to be largely negative.
Should May have invited Trump considering no other recent US president got an invitation in their first year never mind their first week?
Is May feeling pressure to get in good with the Donald because Hard Brexit means the US is essential to the UKs economic future?"
2 million sign the petition and you think that's a majority in a country with a population of 65 million?
63 million Brits haven't signed the petition, the 2 million that have are a small, loud mouthed minority in the UK. |
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over a year ago
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How is 2 million a majority out of 65 million? Of course she was right. How many other world leaders have been to see him since May? And how many others would love to? Trumpophobia is getting a bit boring now |
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"How is 2 million a majority out of 65 million? Of course she was right. How many other world leaders have been to see him since May? And how many others would love to? Trumpophobia is getting a bit boring now"
How many didn't vote Brexit? :P |
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"So it seems the majority of the UK are anti Trump based on these surveys. Or at least anyone who has any feeling one way or another seems to be largely negative.
Should May have invited Trump considering no other recent US president got an invitation in their first year never mind their first week?
Is May feeling pressure to get in good with the Donald because Hard Brexit means the US is essential to the UKs economic future?
2 million sign the petition and you think that's a majority in a country with a population of 65 million?
63 million Brits haven't signed the petition, the 2 million that have are a small, loud mouthed minority in the UK. "
300,000 support him coming ... a drop in the ocean |
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"So it seems the majority of the UK are anti Trump based on these surveys. Or at least anyone who has any feeling one way or another seems to be largely negative.
Should May have invited Trump considering no other recent US president got an invitation in their first year never mind their first week?
Is May feeling pressure to get in good with the Donald because Hard Brexit means the US is essential to the UKs economic future?
2 million sign the petition and you think that's a majority in a country with a population of 65 million?
63 million Brits haven't signed the petition, the 2 million that have are a small, loud mouthed minority in the UK.
300,000 support him coming ... a drop in the ocean"
well when the petition against him gets to 25 million then it might be worth signing the other |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"People have had their cosy little worlds shaken up and they just don't understand why or what to do about it"
I agree, most people had thought that fascism was only found in the history books. As Ivanka Trump said, "America is a nation built on the principle of religious tolerance." so it's a shame that they elected a man who campaigned on “total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on.” |
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"So it seems the majority of the UK are anti Trump based on these surveys. Or at least anyone who has any feeling one way or another seems to be largely negative.
Should May have invited Trump considering no other recent US president got an invitation in their first year never mind their first week?
Is May feeling pressure to get in good with the Donald because Hard Brexit means the US is essential to the UKs economic future?
2 million sign the petition and you think that's a majority in a country with a population of 65 million?
63 million Brits haven't signed the petition, the 2 million that have are a small, loud mouthed minority in the UK.
300,000 support him coming ... a drop in the ocean"
So, 2,300,000 people have expressed their opinion...the other sixty-odd million have better things to be getting on with. |
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"People have had their cosy little worlds shaken up and they just don't understand why or what to do about it
Yes, damn those immigrants invading our precious country, eh  "
no |
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The 2 million vs 300,000 shows a large gap. Obviously all 65million werent going to sign either petition. Its just putting your head in the sand to pretend that the majority isnt against the visit when the difference is almost 7 to 1.
I think a lot of people are assuming that pro brexit means pro trump and this response shows that might not be the case at all. |
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"So it seems the majority of the UK are anti Trump based on these surveys. Or at least anyone who has any feeling one way or another seems to be largely negative.
Should May have invited Trump considering no other recent US president got an invitation in their first year never mind their first week?
Is May feeling pressure to get in good with the Donald because Hard Brexit means the US is essential to the UKs economic future?"
2 million whingers with nothing to do to fulfil their meaningless lives, so they opt to sign petitions, lol, such a sad sad world |
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Most of us cannot be assed to sign petitions that mean nothing, he will visit when the time comes and should be accorded the same respect as they have always given our prime ministers |
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"So it seems the majority of the UK are anti Trump based on these surveys. Or at least anyone who has any feeling one way or another seems to be largely negative.
Should May have invited Trump considering no other recent US president got an invitation in their first year never mind their first week?
Is May feeling pressure to get in good with the Donald because Hard Brexit means the US is essential to the UKs economic future?
2 million whingers with nothing to do to fulfil their meaningless lives, so they opt to sign petitions, lol, such a sad sad world"
.....Hey come on now.....let them have their little victory dance...not that its going to change anything. |
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"So it seems the majority of the UK are anti Trump based on these surveys. Or at least anyone who has any feeling one way or another seems to be largely negative.
Should May have invited Trump considering no other recent US president got an invitation in their first year never mind their first week?
Is May feeling pressure to get in good with the Donald because Hard Brexit means the US is essential to the UKs economic future?
2 million whingers with nothing to do to fulfil their meaningless lives, so they opt to sign petitions, lol, such a sad sad world"
How do we fill our meaningless lives? By posting on here, daily?? On wait .... |
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So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves"
So what does this say about the people who want to ban immigrants in the first place?? |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
So what does this say about the people who want to ban immigrants in the first place??"
who does? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"Most of us cannot be assed to sign petitions that mean nothing, he will visit when the time comes and should be accorded the same respect as they have always given our prime ministers "
Was May's trip to the US, when she invited him to come to the UK, a state visit? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves"
"It's often said" by who? You?  |
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"Most of us cannot be assed to sign petitions that mean nothing, he will visit when the time comes and should be accorded the same respect as they have always given our prime ministers
Was May's trip to the US, when she invited him to come to the UK, a state visit? "
blimey, how long has May been the Queen, I missed that |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
So what does this say about the people who want to ban immigrants in the first place??
who does?"
Who does? The question was what does it say about them? I don't know anyone who does? Do you? |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
"It's often said" by who? You? "
yep. Ring true? |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves"
By the way, you are completely ignorant as to what the petition said, it wasn't about banning trump, it was about not giving him a state visit. As usual you knowledge of the subject at hand is well below par. When May visited the US, she didn't get a state visit, so why should trump get a state visit? As a poster above said, we should treat them like they treat us. |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
"It's often said" by who? You?
yep. Ring true?"
You guys are always protesting about CLCC, what does that say about you? Always protesting about someone else .... hmmmm |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
So what does this say about the people who want to ban immigrants in the first place??
who does?
Who does? The question was what does it say about them? I don't know anyone who does? Do you?"
nope. But I thought this was about Trump wanting to. Which he doesn't |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
So what does this say about the people who want to ban immigrants in the first place??
who does?
Who does? The question was what does it say about them? I don't know anyone who does? Do you?
nope. But I thought this was about Trump wanting to. Which he doesn't"
Nope, its about people protesting about someone else doing something they do themselves, isn't it? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves"
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt"
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?"
Not as far as I'm aware. Unless, as I said, this thread is referring to a different petition to the one I think it is.
-Matt |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt"
ok, only because they couldn't ban him, so they go for something they hope they can ban. As if |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
ok, only because they couldn't ban him, so they go for something they hope they can ban. As if"
It's the mythical 'they' again ... |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?"
Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop. |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?
Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop. "
And the even smaller minority are okay with him coming? Using the same logic |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
"It's often said" by who? You?
yep. Ring true?
You guys are always protesting about CLCC, what does that say about you? Always protesting about someone else .... hmmmm"
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
ok, only because they couldn't ban him, so they go for something they hope they can ban. As if"
You mean like the way Trump asked Guillanni how to 'legally' ban muslims as he knew he couldn't so came up with the idea of banning 7 random Muslim-majority countries instead? No I don't think so. I would have thought that most of those signing the petition asking his state visit to not happen would love him to come to this country so they can give him a nice warm welcome and show him to his face what they think of him
-Matt |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
ok, only because they couldn't ban him, so they go for something they hope they can ban. As if
You mean like the way Trump asked Guillanni how to 'legally' ban muslims as he knew he couldn't so came up with the idea of banning 7 random Muslim-majority countries instead? No I don't think so. I would have thought that most of those signing the petition asking his state visit to not happen would love him to come to this country so they can give him a nice warm welcome and show him to his face what they think of him
-Matt"
I am going to America to see him and will be let in as long as he doesn't find out my oldest left America because his girlfriend is Iranian .... |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
ok, only because they couldn't ban him, so they go for something they hope they can ban. As if
You mean like the way Trump asked Guillanni how to 'legally' ban muslims as he knew he couldn't so came up with the idea of banning 7 random Muslim-majority countries instead? No I don't think so. I would have thought that most of those signing the petition asking his state visit to not happen would love him to come to this country so they can give him a nice warm welcome and show him to his face what they think of him
-Matt"
what do you mean, random? |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?
Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop.
And the even smaller minority are okay with him coming? Using the same logic"
As someone already pointed out earlier the vast majority of Brits have better and more important things to do with their lives than get involved with such drivel. |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
ok, only because they couldn't ban him, so they go for something they hope they can ban. As if
You mean like the way Trump asked Guillanni how to 'legally' ban muslims as he knew he couldn't so came up with the idea of banning 7 random Muslim-majority countries instead? No I don't think so. I would have thought that most of those signing the petition asking his state visit to not happen would love him to come to this country so they can give him a nice warm welcome and show him to his face what they think of him
-Matt
what do you mean, random? "
That's what I was thinking......The 7 countries were not picked at random, they were actually a list of 7 countries compiled by President Obama. |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?
Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop.
And the even smaller minority are okay with him coming? Using the same logic
As someone already pointed out earlier the vast majority of Brits have better and more important things to do with their lives than get involved with such drivel. "
And as I pointed out in response to that, how hilariously ironic that people posting on here daily say other people fill their lives with drivel .... #potkettle |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?
Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop.
And the even smaller minority are okay with him coming? Using the same logic
As someone already pointed out earlier the vast majority of Brits have better and more important things to do with their lives than get involved with such drivel.
And as I pointed out in response to that, how hilariously ironic that people posting on here daily say other people fill their lives with drivel .... #potkettle "
You are part of the kettle too then |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
ok, only because they couldn't ban him, so they go for something they hope they can ban. As if
You mean like the way Trump asked Guillanni how to 'legally' ban muslims as he knew he couldn't so came up with the idea of banning 7 random Muslim-majority countries instead? No I don't think so. I would have thought that most of those signing the petition asking his state visit to not happen would love him to come to this country so they can give him a nice warm welcome and show him to his face what they think of him
-Matt
what do you mean, random? "
Random as in he used a list collated by Obama for a different purpose, specifically in response to a specific incident... and then applied it to a general blanket ban in response to no specific incident.
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?
Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop.
And the even smaller minority are okay with him coming? Using the same logic
As someone already pointed out earlier the vast majority of Brits have better and more important things to do with their lives than get involved with such drivel.
And as I pointed out in response to that, how hilariously ironic that people posting on here daily say other people fill their lives with drivel .... #potkettle
You are part of the kettle too then "
No she's not, because she's not saying its drivel, you are. Honestly the level of comprehension on this forum is shocking. What are they teaching at the school of hard knocks these days? |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?
Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop.
And the even smaller minority are okay with him coming? Using the same logic
As someone already pointed out earlier the vast majority of Brits have better and more important things to do with their lives than get involved with such drivel.
And as I pointed out in response to that, how hilariously ironic that people posting on here daily say other people fill their lives with drivel .... #potkettle
You are part of the kettle too then "
Not in the same way as those holier than though people who insult everyone else for doing something they think is mindless on a daily basis. I mean ... how can anyone get holier than though about people signing petitions on a politics forum of a swinging website? You'll be calling Croydon a dump next .... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt"
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal.... |
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal...."
We will get free movement of Brits to America, but Americans can't come here. America is also going to give every Brit a pick up truck and I hear that Trump wants the deal so much he is going to give the Statue of Liberty to us. We all know about Trump's fondness for infrastructure projects, although the wall with Mexico gets all the attention, another project is the bridge he is planning to build (and pay for) from the US to the UK. |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal...."
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's "
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt"
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?
Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop.
And the even smaller minority are okay with him coming? Using the same logic
As someone already pointed out earlier the vast majority of Brits have better and more important things to do with their lives than get involved with such drivel.
And as I pointed out in response to that, how hilariously ironic that people posting on here daily say other people fill their lives with drivel .... #potkettle
You are part of the kettle too then
No she's not, because she's not saying its drivel, you are. Honestly the level of comprehension on this forum is shocking. What are they teaching at the school of hard knocks these days? "
They are teaching us how to predict elections correctly, something you don't seem to good at. I called Brexit and Trump to win |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US"
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US"
psssst..... those aren't german high end cars coming in from germany...... they rich will buy theirs and continue to!
those would be the more ecomony german brands that are built for the north american market in mexico......
and before you say america losing jobs to mexico.... they german manufactures had never produced those cars in the us to being with..... |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt"
stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt
stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
said no one ever!!!! "
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt
stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
said no one ever!!!!
Maybe not Ford/Vauxhall but could be a different scenario with Jaguar/Land Rover. "
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
It's about banning people from banning people, isn't it?
Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop.
And the even smaller minority are okay with him coming? Using the same logic
As someone already pointed out earlier the vast majority of Brits have better and more important things to do with their lives than get involved with such drivel.
And as I pointed out in response to that, how hilariously ironic that people posting on here daily say other people fill their lives with drivel .... #potkettle
You are part of the kettle too then
No she's not, because she's not saying its drivel, you are. Honestly the level of comprehension on this forum is shocking. What are they teaching at the school of hard knocks these days?
They are teaching us how to predict elections correctly, something you don't seem to good at. I called Brexit and Trump to win "
Wow, amazing knowledge. Truth is, nay realists could see the same thing .... even mu kids and they are teens .... |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt
stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
said no one ever!!!!
Maybe not Ford/Vauxhall but could be a different scenario with Jaguar/Land Rover.
Oh I forgot to put Aston Martin in there too. "
Great. But generally car buyers are very loyal to a marque. I don't know about the rest of the country, but pretty much every other European car in Los Angeles seems to be a Porsche. To think that all of a sudden Trump is going to somehow convince buyers to switch from German cars to British cars is pretty fanciful. Especially as I say he is meant to be persuading them to buy American.
What do you think he is going to do? Slap a 20% duty on German cars, but not British? If so, why? What would be in it for him. Or rather for the US, sorry.
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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago
Grantham |
I'm not a Trump fan by a long margin but the reality is, is that he is the President of the USA, elected democratically by their electoral rules.
So what's best? Ignore him and marginalise him or try to engage with him?
We don't have to sink to his level, we don't even have to pretend to like him but we sure do have to try and get along with him.
As one wise man once said " keep your enemies close and your friends even closer"
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"I'm not a Trump fan by a long margin but the reality is, is that he is the President of the USA, elected democratically by their electoral rules.
So what's best? Ignore him and marginalise him or try to engage with him?
We don't have to sink to his level, we don't even have to pretend to like him but we sure do have to try and get along with him.
As one wise man once said " keep your enemies close and your friends even closer"
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Watch what happens after next Tuesday 28th.
The odds of lasting a year will be slashed. |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt
stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
said no one ever!!!!
Maybe not Ford/Vauxhall but could be a different scenario with Jaguar/Land Rover.
Oh I forgot to put Aston Martin in there too.
Great. But generally car buyers are very loyal to a marque. I don't know about the rest of the country, but pretty much every other European car in Los Angeles seems to be a Porsche. To think that all of a sudden Trump is going to somehow convince buyers to switch from German cars to British cars is pretty fanciful. Especially as I say he is meant to be persuading them to buy American.
What do you think he is going to do? Slap a 20% duty on German cars, but not British? If so, why? What would be in it for him. Or rather for the US, sorry.
-Matt"
Trump ran his campaign praising Brexit so if Brexit fails it's not going to look good for him. He wants Brexit to be a success so that means giving Britain a good deal. He also needs a bilateral trade deal on a 1 to 1 country basis to prove he can do it, as he also said on his campaign "we are going to do trade deals bilaterally on a 1 to 1 country basis". Again if he fails to get a deal with Britain or if trade talks break down his critics will come down on him and say "see we told you it can't be done", so he needs a deal to prove all the doubters wrong. Besides that he dislikes the EU immensely (despite what Pence has said over the last couple of days), Trump's long term plan is to see more countries leave the EU. In order to achieve this long term goal he needs Britain to get a good deal and for Brexit to succeed so then other countries may also be tempted away from the EU. |
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"I'm not a Trump fan by a long margin but the reality is, is that he is the President of the USA, elected democratically by their electoral rules.
So what's best? Ignore him and marginalise him or try to engage with him?
We don't have to sink to his level, we don't even have to pretend to like him but we sure do have to try and get along with him.
As one wise man once said " keep your enemies close and your friends even closer"
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Friends close, enemies closer. You had it backwards.
Meeting and negotiating with Trump is one thing. State Visit is something else. No American president has gotten that anywhere close to this early in their presidency.
It does seem like May is trying to get in his good books but its a questionable tactic given that hes being embarrassed by the debate in parliament and will be facing protests. |
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The vote to leave succeeded the vote to remain by 1,000,000 votes. If the petition signing continues on its current trend then its only fair to say parliment pays attention to,and debates the issue by will of a public majority. Whether its right or wrong.
I mean 2,000,000 people's opinions don't matter right, when its on trump? Yet a difference of 1,000,000 leads to our pm taking a all or nothing approach to brexit.
So to the Brexit/Trump supporter combo, decide, do opinions matter? Or is it convienient to brush them under a carpet?
Oh, petitions to parliment are a intergral part of public interaction with parliment...you know soveriegn democracy, you should be happy with the result. |
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By the way, you are completely ignorant as to what the petition said, it wasn't about banning trump, it was about not giving him a state visit. As usual you knowledge of the subject at hand is well below par. When May visited the US, she didn't get a state visit, so why should trump get a state visit? As a poster above said, we should treat them like they treat us. "
You talk of lack of knowledge yet dont know that the only uk person to be granted a state visit would be the queen and that she decides who is invited here for one |
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"The vote to leave succeeded the vote to remain by 1,000,000 votes. If the petition signing continues on its current trend then its only fair to say parliment pays attention to,and debates the issue by will of a public majority. Whether its right or wrong.
I mean 2,000,000 people's opinions don't matter right, when its on trump? Yet a difference of 1,000,000 leads to our pm taking a all or nothing approach to brexit.
So to the Brexit/Trump supporter combo, decide, do opinions matter? Or is it convienient to brush them under a carpet?
Oh, petitions to parliment are a intergral part of public interaction with parliment...you know soveriegn democracy, you should be happy with the result."
It only takes a threshold of 1 million signatures on a petition in order for it to get debate time in Parliament. The debate is being had now. Don't expect the government to change its position though as during the EU referendum last year a petition to stop Cameron and the government sending out those pro EU one sided propaganda leaflets at a cost of £9 million quid to the British taxpayer to be delivered to every house in the UK gained over 1 million signatures and nothing happened. Yes it was debated in Parliament (not the House of Commons but in a smaller back room) because it got over 1 million signatures but the government just dismissed it and went ahead and sent out the leaflets anyway. I expect you got one through your letterbox like everyone else in the country. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt
stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
said no one ever!!!!
Maybe not Ford/Vauxhall but could be a different scenario with Jaguar/Land Rover.
Oh I forgot to put Aston Martin in there too.
Great. But generally car buyers are very loyal to a marque. I don't know about the rest of the country, but pretty much every other European car in Los Angeles seems to be a Porsche. To think that all of a sudden Trump is going to somehow convince buyers to switch from German cars to British cars is pretty fanciful. Especially as I say he is meant to be persuading them to buy American.
What do you think he is going to do? Slap a 20% duty on German cars, but not British? If so, why? What would be in it for him. Or rather for the US, sorry.
-Matt
Trump ran his campaign praising Brexit so if Brexit fails it's not going to look good for him. He wants Brexit to be a success so that means giving Britain a good deal. He also needs a bilateral trade deal on a 1 to 1 country basis to prove he can do it, as he also said on his campaign "we are going to do trade deals bilaterally on a 1 to 1 country basis". Again if he fails to get a deal with Britain or if trade talks break down his critics will come down on him and say "see we told you it can't be done", so he needs a deal to prove all the doubters wrong. Besides that he dislikes the EU immensely (despite what Pence has said over the last couple of days), Trump's long term plan is to see more countries leave the EU. In order to achieve this long term goal he needs Britain to get a good deal and for Brexit to succeed so then other countries may also be tempted away from the EU. "
May's visit to the US didn't make the front page of any of the main US newspapers. I think you overestimate how much the US public cares about Brexit. And hence how much Trumo cares about Brexit. He used Farage to help his 'take back control' narrative during his campaign. Now he has been elected he does need that meme.
I was over there both when the referendum vote took place and during Trump's inauguration. The only comment I got about Brexit the days before the vote were "But you guys wouldn't really leave, that would be crazy!?". Admittedly I was in California, which is a pretty liberal, forward-thinking state. But I very very much doubt Brexit would be any more on the radar in the Trump supporting areas.
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"The vote to leave succeeded the vote to remain by 1,000,000 votes. If the petition signing continues on its current trend then its only fair to say parliment pays attention to,and debates the issue by will of a public majority. Whether its right or wrong.
I mean 2,000,000 people's opinions don't matter right, when its on trump? Yet a difference of 1,000,000 leads to our pm taking a all or nothing approach to brexit.
So to the Brexit/Trump supporter combo, decide, do opinions matter? Or is it convienient to brush them under a carpet?
Oh, petitions to parliment are a intergral part of public interaction with parliment...you know soveriegn democracy, you should be happy with the result.
It only takes a threshold of 1 million signatures on a petition in order for it to get debate time in Parliament. The debate is being had now. Don't expect the government to change its position though as during the EU referendum last year a petition to stop Cameron and the government sending out those pro EU one sided propaganda leaflets at a cost of £9 million quid to the British taxpayer to be delivered to every house in the UK gained over 1 million signatures and nothing happened. Yes it was debated in Parliament (not the House of Commons but in a smaller back room) because it got over 1 million signatures but the government just dismissed it and went ahead and sent out the leaflets anyway. I expect you got one through your letterbox like everyone else in the country. "
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
said no one ever!!!!
Maybe not Ford/Vauxhall but could be a different scenario with Jaguar/Land Rover.
Oh I forgot to put Aston Martin in there too. "
and thats the point... if you are rich enough to already be paying the rather large import tax on a luxury branded car.... that is not going to change!!!!!
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"The vote to leave succeeded the vote to remain by 1,000,000 votes. If the petition signing continues on its current trend then its only fair to say parliment pays attention to,and debates the issue by will of a public majority. Whether its right or wrong.
I mean 2,000,000 people's opinions don't matter right, when its on trump? Yet a difference of 1,000,000 leads to our pm taking a all or nothing approach to brexit.
So to the Brexit/Trump supporter combo, decide, do opinions matter? Or is it convienient to brush them under a carpet?
Oh, petitions to parliment are a intergral part of public interaction with parliment...you know soveriegn democracy, you should be happy with the result.
It only takes a threshold of 1 million signatures on a petition in order for it to get debate time in Parliament. The debate is being had now. Don't expect the government to change its position though as during the EU referendum last year a petition to stop Cameron and the government sending out those pro EU one sided propaganda leaflets at a cost of £9 million quid to the British taxpayer to be delivered to every house in the UK gained over 1 million signatures and nothing happened. Yes it was debated in Parliament (not the House of Commons but in a smaller back room) because it got over 1 million signatures but the government just dismissed it and went ahead and sent out the leaflets anyway. I expect you got one through your letterbox like everyone else in the country.
We didn't get one"
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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Trump ran his campaign praising Brexit so if Brexit fails it's not going to look good for him. He wants Brexit to be a success so that means giving Britain a good deal. He also needs a bilateral trade deal on a 1 to 1 country basis to prove he can do it, as he also said on his campaign "we are going to do trade deals bilaterally on a 1 to 1 country basis". Again if he fails to get a deal with Britain or if trade talks break down his critics will come down on him and say "see we told you it can't be done", so he needs a deal to prove all the doubters wrong. Besides that he dislikes the EU immensely (despite what Pence has said over the last couple of days), Trump's long term plan is to see more countries leave the EU. In order to achieve this long term goal he needs Britain to get a good deal and for Brexit to succeed so then other countries may also be tempted away from the EU. "
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"The vote to leave succeeded the vote to remain by 1,000,000 votes. If the petition signing continues on its current trend then its only fair to say parliment pays attention to,and debates the issue by will of a public majority. Whether its right or wrong.
I mean 2,000,000 people's opinions don't matter right, when its on trump? Yet a difference of 1,000,000 leads to our pm taking a all or nothing approach to brexit.
So to the Brexit/Trump supporter combo, decide, do opinions matter? Or is it convienient to brush them under a carpet?
Oh, petitions to parliment are a intergral part of public interaction with parliment...you know soveriegn democracy, you should be happy with the result.
It only takes a threshold of 1 million signatures on a petition in order for it to get debate time in Parliament. The debate is being had now. Don't expect the government to change its position though as during the EU referendum last year a petition to stop Cameron and the government sending out those pro EU one sided propaganda leaflets at a cost of £9 million quid to the British taxpayer to be delivered to every house in the UK gained over 1 million signatures and nothing happened. Yes it was debated in Parliament (not the House of Commons but in a smaller back room) because it got over 1 million signatures but the government just dismissed it and went ahead and sent out the leaflets anyway. I expect you got one through your letterbox like everyone else in the country. "
So? As I said, this is soveriegn, parlimentary democracy in action. You should be happy people are using democracy to air their opinion, so our politicians are better informed on the public mindset. |
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stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
said no one ever!!!!
Maybe not Ford/Vauxhall but could be a different scenario with Jaguar/Land Rover.
Oh I forgot to put Aston Martin in there too.
and thats the point... if you are rich enough to already be paying the rather large import tax on a luxury branded car.... that is not going to change!!!!!
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If Trump lowers tariffs with the UK or we get a uk/USA free trade deal, and he decides to increase tariffs between the USA and the EU it could possibly have an effect. Those luxury British goods (Jaguars, Land Rovers and Aston Martins in this instance) could look a whole lot more tempting than a BMW, Porsche or a Merc. Even rich folk love a bargain and rich people are usually skin flints anyway, just look at the story in the newspapers over the weekend about Man utd Player Phil Jones, he's a millionaire with Bentleys on his drive but he sacked his cleaners over a £300 fuel bill. |
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Trump ran his campaign praising Brexit so if Brexit fails it's not going to look good for him. He wants Brexit to be a success so that means giving Britain a good deal. He also needs a bilateral trade deal on a 1 to 1 country basis to prove he can do it, as he also said on his campaign "we are going to do trade deals bilaterally on a 1 to 1 country basis". Again if he fails to get a deal with Britain or if trade talks break down his critics will come down on him and say "see we told you it can't be done", so he needs a deal to prove all the doubters wrong. Besides that he dislikes the EU immensely (despite what Pence has said over the last couple of days), Trump's long term plan is to see more countries leave the EU. In order to achieve this long term goal he needs Britain to get a good deal and for Brexit to succeed so then other countries may also be tempted away from the EU.
at the cost of potential US job's centaur?????
really???????"
Who said anything about it costing jobs??????
Jobs can stay here and jobs can stay there but we can buy and sell from each other more cheaply if tariffs come down. |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt"
misunderstood as usual. Yes maybe buy British motors if they are less expensive but if the US market shrinks for German cars, where will they be keen to maintain or increase their market share? The UK maybe? Ah but wait, the EU wants tariffs doesn't it? Wants but it aint gonna happen |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
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stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
said no one ever!!!!
Maybe not Ford/Vauxhall but could be a different scenario with Jaguar/Land Rover.
Oh I forgot to put Aston Martin in there too.
and thats the point... if you are rich enough to already be paying the rather large import tax on a luxury branded car.... that is not going to change!!!!!
If Trump lowers tariffs with the UK or we get a uk/USA free trade deal, and he decides to increase tariffs between the USA and the EU it could possibly have an effect. Those luxury British goods (Jaguars, Land Rovers and Aston Martins in this instance) could look a whole lot more tempting than a BMW, Porsche or a Merc. Even rich folk love a bargain and rich people are usually skin flints anyway, just look at the story in the newspapers over the weekend about Man utd Player Phil Jones, he's a millionaire with Bentleys on his drive but he sacked his cleaners over a £300 fuel bill. "
Again, why would Trump want to give the UK favourable access? What is in it for him. Or more importantly what are we trading for that access and on what terms?
Remember this is a guy who wrote a whole book on his approach to deals. In his eyes there is only one type of deal and that is one in which he wins and the other loses.
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
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Trump ran his campaign praising Brexit so if Brexit fails it's not going to look good for him. He wants Brexit to be a success so that means giving Britain a good deal. He also needs a bilateral trade deal on a 1 to 1 country basis to prove he can do it, as he also said on his campaign "we are going to do trade deals bilaterally on a 1 to 1 country basis". Again if he fails to get a deal with Britain or if trade talks break down his critics will come down on him and say "see we told you it can't be done", so he needs a deal to prove all the doubters wrong. Besides that he dislikes the EU immensely (despite what Pence has said over the last couple of days), Trump's long term plan is to see more countries leave the EU. In order to achieve this long term goal he needs Britain to get a good deal and for Brexit to succeed so then other countries may also be tempted away from the EU.
at the cost of potential US job's centaur?????
really???????
Who said anything about it costing jobs??????
Jobs can stay here and jobs can stay there but we can buy and sell from each other more cheaply if tariffs come down. "
Trump.
He has explicitly stated that his approach to job creation in the US is to encourage buying local by penalising imports. So if you think he is going to do something to encourage buying British cars then that would go directly against that stance.
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt
misunderstood as usual. Yes maybe buy British motors if they are less expensive but if the US market shrinks for German cars, where will they be keen to maintain or increase their market share? The UK maybe? Ah but wait, the EU wants tariffs doesn't it? Wants but it aint gonna happen"
So, what are you saying? We should sell more british cars to the US as a way to force the EU to give us free trade so that we can buy more German cars?
Seems a bit of a strange approach to me.
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over a year ago
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Its a deal with the devil.
You can compare the promises he'll make to the UK to the bargain the devil tried to make with Jesus during His period of temptation. Satan offered Jesus food and physical protection, which Jesus refused, but the devil saved the best for last, offering Jesus power over the kingdoms of the world. Jesus of course refused this temptation as well.
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt
misunderstood as usual. Yes maybe buy British motors if they are less expensive but if the US market shrinks for German cars, where will they be keen to maintain or increase their market share? The UK maybe? Ah but wait, the EU wants tariffs doesn't it? Wants but it aint gonna happen
So, what are you saying? We should sell more british cars to the US as a way to force the EU to give us free trade so that we can buy more German cars?
Seems a bit of a strange approach to me.
-Matt"
No, you purposely pretend to misunderstand because you don't like the answer. If the US market shrinks for the Germans they will be keen to keep tariff free access to the UK, which is fairly obvious but doesn't appeal to your negativity |
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"Its a deal with the devil.
You can compare the promises he'll make to the UK to the bargain the devil tried to make with Jesus during His period of temptation. Satan offered Jesus food and physical protection, which Jesus refused, but the devil saved the best for last, offering Jesus power over the kingdoms of the world. Jesus of course refused this temptation as well.
I am atheist by the way. i like the analogies. "
Was it you who made fun of Steve Austin the other day for making a post about Jesus and the bible? Now you are at it yourself.  |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt
misunderstood as usual. Yes maybe buy British motors if they are less expensive but if the US market shrinks for German cars, where will they be keen to maintain or increase their market share? The UK maybe? Ah but wait, the EU wants tariffs doesn't it? Wants but it aint gonna happen
So, what are you saying? We should sell more british cars to the US as a way to force the EU to give us free trade so that we can buy more German cars?
Seems a bit of a strange approach to me.
-Matt
No, you purposely pretend to misunderstand because you don't like the answer. If the US market shrinks for the Germans they will be keen to keep tariff free access to the UK, which is fairly obvious but doesn't appeal to your negativity"
Ok. So for a third and final time, I'll
ask: what is in it for the US? You grand plan here requires the US to give the UK a preferential deal over the EU. Why would they do that? What is in it for
the US or Trump?
And besides, doesn't the German auto industry already want tariff-free trade with the UK anyway? I mean, that is what leavers keep saying is our bargaining chip with the EU?
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"o wish he would hold a rally somewere in yorkshire we would love to go he inspires us whhat a breath of fresh air as as poosed to our poliicians"
There is talk on social media of Trump doing a UK rally at a football stadium or something similar when he comes here. Like you I'd go to show my support. Any idea where to buy one of those red "Make America great again" caps? Looking at the responses I've seen on some social media sites Trump would get a lot of support and would easily fill a football stadium like Wembley. |
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
Who's banning who now? I've not kept up with this, but if it is the petition that I think it is, then it is a petition to not invite him over for an official state visit. I don't recall anything about banning him entering the country. Or is this a different petition?
-Matt
same petition matt... its just that some people forget of feign not to know the difference and put a different agenda because that then suits the narrative...
if may and trump want to meet in london or wherever.. cool.... do i think they should lay out the whistles and bells for him bearing in mind he'd only been in office seven days.... nope...
that smacks of pandering to someone you need something from.......
you what to remind me again what do the us get out of the lovely uk-us trade deal when the uk already has a 2 to 1 surplus in trade........ its like they really believe they are going to get some sort of extra sweetheart deal....
no, but we might get more of the EU's share, in particular Germany's
Germany's share of what? Genuine question. I've no idea what goods/services UK and Germany export to the US. Only thing anyone ever seems to talk about with 'germany' and 'trade' in the same sentence is cars.
-Matt
and Trump has complained about the number of German cars in the US
Right. So Mr "America First", who keeps boasting about his feeble job generation attempts, is going to say "Sod luxury German motors, and don't buy US motors, buy British ones!"? Really? Or have I misunderstood your tactic?
-Matt
misunderstood as usual. Yes maybe buy British motors if they are less expensive but if the US market shrinks for German cars, where will they be keen to maintain or increase their market share? The UK maybe? Ah but wait, the EU wants tariffs doesn't it? Wants but it aint gonna happen
So, what are you saying? We should sell more british cars to the US as a way to force the EU to give us free trade so that we can buy more German cars?
Seems a bit of a strange approach to me.
-Matt
No, you purposely pretend to misunderstand because you don't like the answer. If the US market shrinks for the Germans they will be keen to keep tariff free access to the UK, which is fairly obvious but doesn't appeal to your negativity
Ok. So for a third and final time, I'll
ask: what is in it for the US? You grand plan here requires the US to give the UK a preferential deal over the EU. Why would they do that? What is in it for
the US or Trump?
And besides, doesn't the German auto industry already want tariff-free trade with the UK anyway? I mean, that is what leavers keep saying is our bargaining chip with the EU?
-Matt"
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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I do love the total suspension of logic in this thread.
2,000,000 people who sign one petition must be "a minority of whingers with nothing better to do", whereas only 3,000 people sign the opposite petition it's because "sensible people have better things to do".... |
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Trump is a breath of fresh air. Hopefully one day our country will have a leader that delivers what they say as opposed to our limp lily livered leaders |
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By (user no longer on site)
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stuff your porsche/mercedes.... i am having that ford/vauxhall...
said no one ever!!!!
Maybe not Ford/Vauxhall but could be a different scenario with Jaguar/Land Rover.
Oh I forgot to put Aston Martin in there too.
and thats the point... if you are rich enough to already be paying the rather large import tax on a luxury branded car.... that is not going to change!!!!!
If Trump lowers tariffs with the UK or we get a uk/USA free trade deal, and he decides to increase tariffs between the USA and the EU it could possibly have an effect. Those luxury British goods (Jaguars, Land Rovers and Aston Martins in this instance) could look a whole lot more tempting than a BMW, Porsche or a Merc. Even rich folk love a bargain and rich people are usually skin flints anyway, just look at the story in the newspapers over the weekend about Man utd Player Phil Jones, he's a millionaire with Bentleys on his drive but he sacked his cleaners over a £300 fuel bill. "
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"I do love the total suspension of logic in this thread.
2,000,000 people who sign one petition must be "a minority of whingers with nothing better to do", whereas only 3,000 people sign the opposite petition it's because "sensible people have better things to do".... "
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2 million sign the petition and you think that's a majority in a country with a population of 65 million?
63 million Brits haven't signed the petition, the 2 million that have are a small, loud mouthed minority in the UK. "
Wow, your level of "when it suits" is astounding.... You've been shouting from the rooftops about the 1.2 million extra votes for brexit over remain as a landslide majority but now its over something that doesn't suit you a 1.7 million difference is nothing  |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"How is 2 million a majority out of 65 million? Of course she was right. How many other world leaders have been to see him since May? And how many others would love to? Trumpophobia is getting a bit boring now"
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By (user no longer on site)
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Banning Trump/not allowing Trump to come on a state visit = one and the same thing. The minority of whingers who signed the petition just don't want Trump to come to our country, Full Stop. "
The petition was over him not being given a state visit, nothing about him not being unvited at all. So a massive difference, or is it your alternative facts again ? |
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"Its a deal with the devil.
You can compare the promises he'll make to the UK to the bargain the devil tried to make with Jesus during His period of temptation. Satan offered Jesus food and physical protection, which Jesus refused, but the devil saved the best for last, offering Jesus power over the kingdoms of the world. Jesus of course refused this temptation as well.
I am atheist by the way. i like the analogies. "
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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PMSL.... just reading the transcript of the debate of these petitions in the HoC.
on the introduction of the petitions, referring to the one inviting him for a state visit:
“Donald Trump should be invited to make an official State Visit because he is the leader of a free world and U.K. is a country that supports free speech and does not believe that people that appose our point of view should be gagged.”
Paul Flynn said:
"That is a fascinating prospect. The first petition suggests that cancelling the state visit would in some way deprive President Trump of his ability to speak freely, when in recent days we have had a ceaseless incontinence of free speech from him—the man is everywhere, 24 hours a day, seven days a week."
Lol... love it... "ceaseless incontinence of free speech". Such an apt description.
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2 million sign the petition and you think that's a majority in a country with a population of 65 million?
63 million Brits haven't signed the petition, the 2 million that have are a small, loud mouthed minority in the UK.
Wow, your level of "when it suits" is astounding.... You've been shouting from the rooftops about the 1.2 million extra votes for brexit over remain as a landslide majority but now its over something that doesn't suit you a 1.7 million difference is nothing "
17.5 million people voted for Brexit, just 2 million signed the petition. There is no comparison. |
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"I do love the total suspension of logic in this thread.
2,000,000 people who sign one petition must be "a minority of whingers with nothing better to do", whereas only 3,000 people sign the opposite petition it's because "sensible people have better things to do".... "
Never actually said that but still keep peddling your alternative facts if it makes you happy. The other petition with 3,000 signatures is a waste of time too. |
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By *W ChapMan
over a year ago
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How do we fill our meaningless lives? By posting on here, daily?? On wait ...."
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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How do we fill our meaningless lives? By posting on here, daily?? On wait ....
More chance of a shag by being on here than signing a petition about Trump. Where was the petition about the Chinese state visit???? "
Further in the debate yesterday:
Paul Flynn: “Some ministers mutter that the big mistake was to issue the invitation to make an early state visit to Britain, a notion conceived as a way of flattering his colossal vanities. At the very least, it would have been prudent to wait before rolling the royal red carpet. Pimping out the Queen for Donald Trump. This, apparently, is what they meant by getting our sovereignty back.”
Those are the words of Andrew Rawnsley, which I am quoting.
Rees-Mogg: "On a point of order, Mr Walker. I do not think it is in order to refer to pimping out our sovereign, even if someone is quoting a journalist, however distinguished."
lol... so who knows... maybe you could get a crack at Liz if you wanted
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
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"I do love the total suspension of logic in this thread.
2,000,000 people who sign one petition must be "a minority of whingers with nothing better to do", whereas only 3,000 people sign the opposite petition it's because "sensible people have better things to do"....
Never actually said that but still keep peddling your alternative facts if it makes you happy. The other petition with 3,000 signatures is a waste of time too. "
Peddling?
I'm not selling anything, it's my opinion.
Do you actually know what either the word "Peddling" or "fact" mean? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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2 million sign the petition and you think that's a majority in a country with a population of 65 million?
63 million Brits haven't signed the petition, the 2 million that have are a small, loud mouthed minority in the UK.
Wow, your level of "when it suits" is astounding.... You've been shouting from the rooftops about the 1.2 million extra votes for brexit over remain as a landslide majority but now its over something that doesn't suit you a 1.7 million difference is nothing
17.5 million people voted for Brexit, just 2 million signed the petition. There is no comparison. "
Im talking the % difference of the public that signed either petition , just like the % difference who voted in the referendum.
You claimed very enthusiastically that 1.2 million difference for leave was a landslide majority yet now theres 1.5 million difference who signed to something YOU DONT AGREE WITH then that's irrelevant
The amount of people taking part in something has no bearing on the result.... only when it suits you though which is very plain to see.
Just looked at the petition figures as peoples figures quoted in here are notoriously shite...
Numbers for people polled / signed
314,000 for Trump to be given a state visit
1.86 million to not give him a state visit
= over 1.5 million difference = landslide majority for no state visit, bigger landslide majority than Leave got over Remain in the referendum for people taking part.
586,000 to block him from setting foot here at all
So by rights, the people have spoken, very clearly, democracy should prevail, Trumps visit should be downgraded to an official visit.
This petition has just the same LEGAL clout as the referendum "fuck all" ironically
As it happens i actually signed the petition for him to have a state visit before anyone tries throwing the anti Trump line around |
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By (user no longer on site)
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I signed the petition not to give him a state visit. It took about thirty seconds out of my meaningless life and then I came back on Fab to reply to the more meaningful fuck, kiss or avoid questions that are constantly asked on here |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"I signed the petition not to give him a state visit. It took about thirty seconds out of my meaningless life and then I came back on Fab to reply to the more meaningful fuck, kiss or avoid questions that are constantly asked on here "
lol... hopefully they didn't need a debate in the house of commons!
yeah, it does crack me up about people complaining about people wasting their time discussing stuff in here... the lounge is pretty much entirely snog/fuck/avoid or "do ladies like..." with responses of "yes, no, maybe, depends".
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I signed the petition not to give him a state visit. It took about thirty seconds out of my meaningless life and then I came back on Fab to reply to the more meaningful fuck, kiss or avoid questions that are constantly asked on here
lol... hopefully they didn't need a debate in the house of commons!
yeah, it does crack me up about people complaining about people wasting their time discussing stuff in here... the lounge is pretty much entirely snog/fuck/avoid or "do ladies like..." with responses of "yes, no, maybe, depends".
-Matt"
Or those pointless threads about who has the best arse, tits, little finger, elbow or right elbow  |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"I signed the petition not to give him a state visit. It took about thirty seconds out of my meaningless life and then I came back on Fab to reply to the more meaningful fuck, kiss or avoid questions that are constantly asked on here
lol... hopefully they didn't need a debate in the house of commons!
yeah, it does crack me up about people complaining about people wasting their time discussing stuff in here... the lounge is pretty much entirely snog/fuck/avoid or "do ladies like..." with responses of "yes, no, maybe, depends".
-Matt
Or those pointless threads about who has the best arse, tits, little finger, elbow or right elbow "
In here it's more likely who has the best middle finger
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By *LCCCouple
over a year ago
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"So people want to ban someone who wants to ban someone? A bit Trumpesk that eh? It is often said that when people protest against someone it is because they recognise the faults in themselves
By the way, you are completely ignorant as to what the petition said, it wasn't about banning trump, it was about not giving him a state visit. As usual you knowledge of the subject at hand is well below par. When May visited the US, she didn't get a state visit, so why should trump get a state visit? As a poster above said, we should treat them like they treat us.
You talk of lack of knowledge yet dont know that the only uk person to be granted a state visit would be the queen and that she decides who is invited here for one"
So the Queen asked Trump to come, not the PM? Has there been a reciprocal offer of a UK state visit to the US? |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"I signed the petition not to give him a state visit. It took about thirty seconds out of my meaningless life and then I came back on Fab to reply to the more meaningful fuck, kiss or avoid questions that are constantly asked on here "
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By (user no longer on site)
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It only takes a threshold of 1 million signatures on a petition in order for it to get debate time in Parliament. "
At 10,000 signatures you get a response from the government.
At 100,000 signatures your petition will be considered for a debate in Parliament.
Not a million |
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It only takes a threshold of 1 million signatures on a petition in order for it to get debate time in Parliament.
At 10,000 signatures you get a response from the government.
At 100,000 signatures your petition will be considered for a debate in Parliament.
Not a million"
100,000 only considered for debate. 1 million will definitely get debate time. |
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2 million sign the petition and you think that's a majority in a country with a population of 65 million?
63 million Brits haven't signed the petition, the 2 million that have are a small, loud mouthed minority in the UK.
Wow, your level of "when it suits" is astounding.... You've been shouting from the rooftops about the 1.2 million extra votes for brexit over remain as a landslide majority but now its over something that doesn't suit you a 1.7 million difference is nothing
17.5 million people voted for Brexit, just 2 million signed the petition. There is no comparison.
Im talking the % difference of the public that signed either petition , just like the % difference who voted in the referendum.
You claimed very enthusiastically that 1.2 million difference for leave was a landslide majority yet now theres 1.5 million difference who signed to something YOU DONT AGREE WITH then that's irrelevant
The amount of people taking part in something has no bearing on the result.... only when it suits you though which is very plain to see.
Just looked at the petition figures as peoples figures quoted in here are notoriously shite...
Numbers for people polled / signed
314,000 for Trump to be given a state visit
1.86 million to not give him a state visit
= over 1.5 million difference = landslide majority for no state visit, bigger landslide majority than Leave got over Remain in the referendum for people taking part.
586,000 to block him from setting foot here at all
So by rights, the people have spoken, very clearly, democracy should prevail, Trumps visit should be downgraded to an official visit.
This petition has just the same LEGAL clout as the referendum "fuck all" ironically
As it happens i actually signed the petition for him to have a state visit before anyone tries throwing the anti Trump line around "
You are comparing the signing of petitions to a nationwide referendum? Seriously, its nonsense, you are comparing apples with oranges. |
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"I signed the petition not to give him a state visit. It took about thirty seconds out of my meaningless life and then I came back on Fab to reply to the more meaningful fuck, kiss or avoid questions that are constantly asked on here "
Give yourself a pat on the back, you can feel content now your virtue signaling has been done along with the other 2 million snowflakes. |
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2 million sign the petition and you think that's a majority in a country with a population of 65 million?
63 million Brits haven't signed the petition, the 2 million that have are a small, loud mouthed minority in the UK.
Wow, your level of "when it suits" is astounding.... You've been shouting from the rooftops about the 1.2 million extra votes for brexit over remain as a landslide majority but now its over something that doesn't suit you a 1.7 million difference is nothing
17.5 million people voted for Brexit, just 2 million signed the petition. There is no comparison.
Im talking the % difference of the public that signed either petition , just like the % difference who voted in the referendum.
You claimed very enthusiastically that 1.2 million difference for leave was a landslide majority yet now theres 1.5 million difference who signed to something YOU DONT AGREE WITH then that's irrelevant
The amount of people taking part in something has no bearing on the result.... only when it suits you though which is very plain to see.
Just looked at the petition figures as peoples figures quoted in here are notoriously shite...
Numbers for people polled / signed
314,000 for Trump to be given a state visit
1.86 million to not give him a state visit
= over 1.5 million difference = landslide majority for no state visit, bigger landslide majority than Leave got over Remain in the referendum for people taking part.
586,000 to block him from setting foot here at all
So by rights, the people have spoken, very clearly, democracy should prevail, Trumps visit should be downgraded to an official visit.
This petition has just the same LEGAL clout as the referendum "fuck all" ironically
As it happens i actually signed the petition for him to have a state visit before anyone tries throwing the anti Trump line around
You are comparing the signing of petitions to a nationwide referendum? Seriously, its nonsense, you are comparing apples with oranges. "
Ok, as I said, statistics when it suits |
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By (user no longer on site)
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It only takes a threshold of 1 million signatures on a petition in order for it to get debate time in Parliament.
At 10,000 signatures you get a response from the government.
At 100,000 signatures your petition will be considered for a debate in Parliament.
Not a million
100,000 only considered for debate. 1 million will definitely get debate time. "
https://petition.parliament.uk/help
Nothing states guarenteed debate time at a million on the Governments petition website, unless I'm missing it, or unless it's one of your alternative facts  |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"I signed the petition not to give him a state visit. It took about thirty seconds out of my meaningless life and then I came back on Fab to reply to the more meaningful fuck, kiss or avoid questions that are constantly asked on here
Give yourself a pat on the back, you can feel content now your virtue signaling has been done along with the other 2 million snowflakes. "
Wow, you do realise that you can take your head out of Yiannopoulos's arse now, right? He is no longer cool.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Some people like to complain and take to the streets etc at any opportunity.
The people who agree with Trumps visit feel no need to protest at the moment.
The only way to get a proper idea is to ask ghe public individually.
These polls are only a fragment of the British peoples opinion and does not give you a true picture
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