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By *oi_Lucy OP   Couple  over a year ago

Barbados

Hey Shag, your loved ones all OK?

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Despite widespread debunking of his claims, it has since emerged a largely underreported attack did, in fact, occur last month.

Three suspected neo-Nazis were arrested in January after a Gothenburg Asylum centre became the target of a homemade bomb attack, leaving one person seriously injured.

Security services said all three suspects had previously been members of the Nordic Resistance Movement (NMR), a group that openly promotes racist and anti-Semitic views and has vocally opposed non-white immigration to the country.

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Hey Shag, your loved ones all OK?

-Matt"

pray for sweden.....

hopefully the people of bowling green will reach out to them... they will know what they are going thru....

2017 is being really shitty for fake massacres.... wonder where the next one will occur....

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By *oi_Lucy OP   Couple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Hey Shag, your loved ones all OK?

-Matt

pray for sweden.....

hopefully the people of bowling green will reach out to them... they will know what they are going thru....

2017 is being really shitty for fake massacres.... wonder where the next one will occur.... "

#neverremember

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Despite widespread debunking of his claims, it has since emerged a largely underreported attack did, in fact, occur last month.

Three suspected neo-Nazis were arrested in January after a Gothenburg Asylum centre became the target of a homemade bomb attack, leaving one person seriously injured.

Security services said all three suspects had previously been members of the Nordic Resistance Movement (NMR), a group that openly promotes racist and anti-Semitic views and has vocally opposed non-white immigration to the country. "

So under reported yet breibart news didn't pick up on it. Probably cause it shows the side of the 'alt' right bannon and Milo are trying to hide.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?

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By *et-shortyMan  over a year ago

Manchester

There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?"

no .... the alt reich forum members are all just on another thread right now, ironically being furious at gareth snell's politically incorrect tweets, after spending that last two years or so themselves whinging and bitching about people being politically correct

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet "

"Descenting voices and opinions"

Down with that sort of thing

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?

no .... the alt reich forum members are all just on another thread right now, ironically being furious at gareth snell's politically incorrect tweets, after spending that last two years or so themselves whinging and bitching about people being politically correct"

ROFLMFAO

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Hey Shag, your loved ones all OK?

-Matt

pray for sweden.....

hopefully the people of bowling green will reach out to them... they will know what they are going thru....

2017 is being really shitty for fake massacres.... wonder where the next one will occur.... "

Many Americans must be embarrassed to be associated with DT by now. He's quickly turned one of the most impressive nations on Earth into a joke on the world stage.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet "

I disagree, the US safe space university crap is bad, but currently the hard and new wave far right parties have commandeered the phrase 'fake news' as a way for their leaders and representatives to just blot out any debate.

To conclude, someone like trump or bannon pointing and going, "don't listen to them, they pedal fake news" is worse than creating a 'safe space', it stops those following and interested in them from really criticising and debating their ideas, it just creates a concrete wall in which their world view is right, and all else is wrong. Not even worth noting, let alone debating.

The worst is this is now being implemented in the international world of media, and in some nations, at the top of policy making. Rather than just a few hundred students at each college and uni going through their political discovery phase.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet "

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump..."

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?."

It's very insidious. Just one look shows they are mostly disenfranchised losers and dweebs who are the most susceptible to finding a reason for being through internet extremism

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Have a look at Socrates dislike for public democracy on the school of life channel and you can see his fears playing out live and direct.

Ironically he was condemned to death by a 52% majority

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump..."

Some truth in that too, the Internet in theory is great for providing opposing opinion, the problems now are noise, knowing what side to listen to and control of the internet and censorship.

In principle we can have it better than ever but maybe we have it worse than ever in terms of anxiety about remote possibilities and the propagation of bad ideologies

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

"

Problem is that old Adolf looked a bit sinister, where as the Donald looks like a bloated orange buffoon, a comedy figure, the unsuccesful businessman playing at politics...except.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Have a look at Socrates dislike for public democracy on the school of life channel and you can see his fears playing out live and direct.

Ironically he was condemned to death by a 52% majority "

for a fellow school of life youtube subscriber. That channel is ace.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

Problem is that old Adolf looked a bit sinister, where as the Donald looks like a bloated orange buffoon, a comedy figure, the unsuccesful businessman playing at politics...except....."

Gotta laugh at a Corbynista mocking how other people look.

Look at your own leader Corbyn, 1990's shell suits to ride his bike, wears old tatty suits to the House of Commons and looks dishevelled on 99% of the time he is seen in public. Save us all the style tips when your own leader looks like the 2nd coming of Michael Foot.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

Problem is that old Adolf looked a bit sinister, where as the Donald looks like a bloated orange buffoon, a comedy figure, the unsuccesful businessman playing at politics...except....."

I actually don't se trump as the problem, he's an idiot, but he is a yes man to whoever strokes his ego. I think it's Mike Pence and Steve Bannon who we have to watch out for in the white house. Pence is anti-atheism, pro-private everything basically - actually disagrees with many of trumps policies...then Bannon is great at media spin and creating a hard/far right echo chamber.

That pairing behind a man who probably wont think objectively so long as people tell him he is liked and respected, is pretty terrifying.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

Problem is that old Adolf looked a bit sinister, where as the Donald looks like a bloated orange buffoon, a comedy figure, the unsuccesful businessman playing at politics...except.....

Gotta laugh at a Corbynista mocking how other people look.

Look at your own leader Corbyn, 1990's shell suits to ride his bike, wears old tatty suits to the House of Commons and looks dishevelled on 99% of the time he is seen in public. Save us all the style tips when your own leader looks like the 2nd coming of Michael Foot. "

Since when have I been a corbynista?

Just because I think JC is a conviction politican, and an actual socialist, and therefore may convince me that voting isn't pointless, doesn't mean hes somehow "my leader".

Although, to be honest, I'd much rather an old suit and a bike to work than expensive suits and bad fake tans. I'd much rather the beard of a man who cares more about his work than his image.

And also - aren't you a fab of the "human potato", Paul Nuttall? People in glass houses....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

Problem is that old Adolf looked a bit sinister, where as the Donald looks like a bloated orange buffoon, a comedy figure, the unsuccesful businessman playing at politics...except.....

Gotta laugh at a Corbynista mocking how other people look.

Look at your own leader Corbyn, 1990's shell suits to ride his bike, wears old tatty suits to the House of Commons and looks dishevelled on 99% of the time he is seen in public. Save us all the style tips when your own leader looks like the 2nd coming of Michael Foot. "

Fair enough, we're getting to identity and cheap shot discussion here. But how about you address how you like a guy who uses tactics - or is told to use tactics, which parallel to the likes of Putin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Franco's Spain - and the leaders of various factions during the year's of Lead, in dealing with the media.

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?

no .... the alt reich forum members are all just on another thread right now, ironically being furious at gareth snell's politically incorrect tweets, after spending that last two years or so themselves whinging and bitching about people being politically correct"

Just using your own politically correct arguments against you, to be honest its funny as fook to see the loony left on here get triggered and lose the plot when your own politically correct arguments are used against you.

Its also somewhat ironic when the politically correct on here dismiss the politically correct arguments against Gareth Snell out of hand as if they are nothing.

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

When asked about last night in Sweden Paul Nuttall said it was far too traumatic and raw at present but to give him a day and he will have come up with something..

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?

no .... the alt reich forum members are all just on another thread right now, ironically being furious at gareth snell's politically incorrect tweets, after spending that last two years or so themselves whinging and bitching about people being politically correct

Just using your own politically correct arguments against you, to be honest its funny as fook to see the loony left on here get triggered and lose the plot when your own politically correct arguments are used against you.

Its also somewhat ironic when the politically correct on here dismiss the politically correct arguments against Gareth Snell out of hand as if they are nothing. "

We clearly weren't reading the same thread.

And anyway, you spent a lot of it cut and pasting exerpts from the Express. Do you have an actual thought of your own?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

Problem is that old Adolf looked a bit sinister, where as the Donald looks like a bloated orange buffoon, a comedy figure, the unsuccesful businessman playing at politics...except.....

Gotta laugh at a Corbynista mocking how other people look.

Look at your own leader Corbyn, 1990's shell suits to ride his bike, wears old tatty suits to the House of Commons and looks dishevelled on 99% of the time he is seen in public. Save us all the style tips when your own leader looks like the 2nd coming of Michael Foot.

Fair enough, we're getting to identity and cheap shot discussion here. But how about you address how you like a guy who uses tactics - or is told to use tactics, which parallel to the likes of Putin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Franco's Spain - and the leaders of various factions during the year's of Lead, in dealing with the media."

Trump has called out CNN for Fake news and rightly so, there are multiple examples of CNN peddling Fake news.

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Some truth in that too, the Internet in theory is great for providing opposing opinion, the problems now are noise, knowing what side to listen to and control of the internet and censorship.

In principle we can have it better than ever but maybe we have it worse than ever in terms of anxiety about remote possibilities and the propagation of bad ideologies "

I think the internet has actually narrowed the opinions that people receive and hear.

The algorithms push what you like at you so unless you confuse them by searching out lots of different things you will only hear what you already believe.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Some truth in that too, the Internet in theory is great for providing opposing opinion, the problems now are noise, knowing what side to listen to and control of the internet and censorship.

In principle we can have it better than ever but maybe we have it worse than ever in terms of anxiety about remote possibilities and the propagation of bad ideologies

I think the internet has actually narrowed the opinions that people receive and hear.

The algorithms push what you like at you so unless you confuse them by searching out lots of different things you will only hear what you already believe.

"

I think that might be true of social media, but not the internet itself.....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

Problem is that old Adolf looked a bit sinister, where as the Donald looks like a bloated orange buffoon, a comedy figure, the unsuccesful businessman playing at politics...except.....

Gotta laugh at a Corbynista mocking how other people look.

Look at your own leader Corbyn, 1990's shell suits to ride his bike, wears old tatty suits to the House of Commons and looks dishevelled on 99% of the time he is seen in public. Save us all the style tips when your own leader looks like the 2nd coming of Michael Foot.

Fair enough, we're getting to identity and cheap shot discussion here. But how about you address how you like a guy who uses tactics - or is told to use tactics, which parallel to the likes of Putin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Franco's Spain - and the leaders of various factions during the year's of Lead, in dealing with the media.

Trump has called out CNN for Fake news and rightly so, there are multiple examples of CNN peddling Fake news. "

Centuar, I have no clue on your thoughts on the topic. So far you've avoided the issue just like a career politician. I'm a lefty by hand. 10% of the world w00t.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

Problem is that old Adolf looked a bit sinister, where as the Donald looks like a bloated orange buffoon, a comedy figure, the unsuccesful businessman playing at politics...except.....

Gotta laugh at a Corbynista mocking how other people look.

Look at your own leader Corbyn, 1990's shell suits to ride his bike, wears old tatty suits to the House of Commons and looks dishevelled on 99% of the time he is seen in public. Save us all the style tips when your own leader looks like the 2nd coming of Michael Foot.

Fair enough, we're getting to identity and cheap shot discussion here. But how about you address how you like a guy who uses tactics - or is told to use tactics, which parallel to the likes of Putin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Franco's Spain - and the leaders of various factions during the year's of Lead, in dealing with the media.

Trump has called out CNN for Fake news and rightly so, there are multiple examples of CNN peddling Fake news. "

For a guy complaining about fake news .He is sure makes up a lot of fake news himself .

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?

no .... the alt reich forum members are all just on another thread right now, ironically being furious at gareth snell's politically incorrect tweets, after spending that last two years or so themselves whinging and bitching about people being politically correct

Just using your own politically correct arguments against you, to be honest its funny as fook to see the loony left on here get triggered and lose the plot when your own politically correct arguments are used against you.

Its also somewhat ironic when the politically correct on here dismiss the politically correct arguments against Gareth Snell out of hand as if they are nothing. "

They're not nothing, I'm appalled. But it is a striking double standard that is being applied. I'm surprised to see you using such arguments. It leaves you as fair game next time one of 'yours' (since this forum seems to always fall into a them/us stance) is caught, once again, making a stupid indefensible comment - no matter how far in the past (a defense I believe you have used before).

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Some truth in that too, the Internet in theory is great for providing opposing opinion, the problems now are noise, knowing what side to listen to and control of the internet and censorship.

In principle we can have it better than ever but maybe we have it worse than ever in terms of anxiety about remote possibilities and the propagation of bad ideologies

I think the internet has actually narrowed the opinions that people receive and hear.

The algorithms push what you like at you so unless you confuse them by searching out lots of different things you will only hear what you already believe.

I think that might be true of social media, but not the internet itself....."

It's true of the search engines people use.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Any luvvie going to condemn the attack in Sehwan?

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By *awandOrderCouple  over a year ago

SW London


"Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?

no .... the alt reich forum members are all just on another thread right now, ironically being furious at gareth snell's politically incorrect tweets, after spending that last two years or so themselves whinging and bitching about people being politically correct

Just using your own politically correct arguments against you, to be honest its funny as fook to see the loony left on here get triggered and lose the plot when your own politically correct arguments are used against you.

Its also somewhat ironic when the politically correct on here dismiss the politically correct arguments against Gareth Snell out of hand as if they are nothing. "

I am a card carrying member of the loony left PC brigade and I haven't become involved in what you suggest ....

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?

no .... the alt reich forum members are all just on another thread right now, ironically being furious at gareth snell's politically incorrect tweets, after spending that last two years or so themselves whinging and bitching about people being politically correct

Just using your own politically correct arguments against you, to be honest its funny as fook to see the loony left on here get triggered and lose the plot when your own politically correct arguments are used against you.

Its also somewhat ironic when the politically correct on here dismiss the politically correct arguments against Gareth Snell out of hand as if they are nothing.

They're not nothing, I'm appalled. But it is a striking double standard that is being applied. I'm surprised to see you using such arguments. It leaves you as fair game next time one of 'yours' (since this forum seems to always fall into a them/us stance) is caught, once again, making a stupid indefensible comment - no matter how far in the past (a defense I believe you have used before).

"

Have you actually seen the second round of tweet barrel scraping?

There's something about Snell not liking Robbie Williams (who is from Stoke, therefore all people from Stoke must adore him, apparently)

Something about him not liking Jedward (who does)?

And so on. It's tedious.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

Problem is that old Adolf looked a bit sinister, where as the Donald looks like a bloated orange buffoon, a comedy figure, the unsuccesful businessman playing at politics...except.....

Gotta laugh at a Corbynista mocking how other people look.

Look at your own leader Corbyn, 1990's shell suits to ride his bike, wears old tatty suits to the House of Commons and looks dishevelled on 99% of the time he is seen in public. Save us all the style tips when your own leader looks like the 2nd coming of Michael Foot.

Fair enough, we're getting to identity and cheap shot discussion here. But how about you address how you like a guy who uses tactics - or is told to use tactics, which parallel to the likes of Putin's Russia, Hitler's Germany, Franco's Spain - and the leaders of various factions during the year's of Lead, in dealing with the media.

Trump has called out CNN for Fake news and rightly so, there are multiple examples of CNN peddling Fake news. "

He attacked most of the mainstream press publishers and new channels. I'm not going to lie and say that from time to time they don't make sensationalist crap by taking quotes way out of hand, and yes, politicians and the public should challenge them to cut that crap out.

However, when a world leader attacks the bulk of the mainstream media, yet leaves online sites out such as breibart and rebel media, which are very sensationalist, whilst having their owner/investor lurking in the white house behind him, you have to ask, who is playing who, who is pushing an ideology rather than rational decision making, and are both individuals using one another for gain? Bannon's sites look more legitimatise, Trump de-legitimises his main criticisers in the media sphere...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Any luvvie going to condemn the attack in Sehwan?"

Why is that fake too? Apparently I should trust any media.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Any luvvie going to condemn the attack in Sehwan?"

I'll happily condemn the terrorist attack, but what has this got to do with this thread?

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By *icketysplitsWoman  over a year ago

Way over Yonder, that's where I'm bound


"Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?

no .... the alt reich forum members are all just on another thread right now, ironically being furious at gareth snell's politically incorrect tweets, after spending that last two years or so themselves whinging and bitching about people being politically correct

Just using your own politically correct arguments against you, to be honest its funny as fook to see the loony left on here get triggered and lose the plot when your own politically correct arguments are used against you.

Its also somewhat ironic when the politically correct on here dismiss the politically correct arguments against Gareth Snell out of hand as if they are nothing.

They're not nothing, I'm appalled. But it is a striking double standard that is being applied. I'm surprised to see you using such arguments. It leaves you as fair game next time one of 'yours' (since this forum seems to always fall into a them/us stance) is caught, once again, making a stupid indefensible comment - no matter how far in the past (a defense I believe you have used before).

Have you actually seen the second round of tweet barrel scraping?

There's something about Snell not liking Robbie Williams (who is from Stoke, therefore all people from Stoke must adore him, apparently)

Something about him not liking Jedward (who does)?

And so on. It's tedious. "

I stopped after the many years ago sexist comments. I'm appalled that anyone with any sense would use such sloppy sexist terms to make their point.

I'm also appalled that the right wing white knights are now defending women and berating men for using such language when the still want Farage to be beatified (his sexist comments are obviously fine). But that's not what the thread is about and I should back out of here so close to bedtime.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Is it me? Or are Alt right wannabes are dying out?

no .... the alt reich forum members are all just on another thread right now, ironically being furious at gareth snell's politically incorrect tweets, after spending that last two years or so themselves whinging and bitching about people being politically correct

Just using your own politically correct arguments against you, to be honest its funny as fook to see the loony left on here get triggered and lose the plot when your own politically correct arguments are used against you.

Its also somewhat ironic when the politically correct on here dismiss the politically correct arguments against Gareth Snell out of hand as if they are nothing.

They're not nothing, I'm appalled. But it is a striking double standard that is being applied. I'm surprised to see you using such arguments. It leaves you as fair game next time one of 'yours' (since this forum seems to always fall into a them/us stance) is caught, once again, making a stupid indefensible comment - no matter how far in the past (a defense I believe you have used before).

Have you actually seen the second round of tweet barrel scraping?

There's something about Snell not liking Robbie Williams (who is from Stoke, therefore all people from Stoke must adore him, apparently)

Something about him not liking Jedward (who does)?

And so on. It's tedious.

I stopped after the many years ago sexist comments. I'm appalled that anyone with any sense would use such sloppy sexist terms to make their point.

I'm also appalled that the right wing white knights are now defending women and berating men for using such language when the still want Farage to be beatified (his sexist comments are obviously fine). But that's not what the thread is about and I should back out of here so close to bedtime.

"

I think that they think that everyone else has a three second memory.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Have a look at Socrates dislike for public democracy on the school of life channel and you can see his fears playing out live and direct.

Ironically he was condemned to death by a 52% majority

for a fellow school of life youtube subscriber. That channel is ace."

It's an amazing resource... It would take a year of reading dull archaic prose to learn what I learned in an hour or two this afternoon.

Plenty here could benefit from it

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By *et-shortyMan  over a year ago

Manchester


"There's alot of talk about echo chambers and living in a bubble but then I think that goes both ways, the whole safe space idea in US universities right now is the biggest echo chamber going, it's all about blocking out and criminalising descenting voices and opinions until there's only one opinion?.

This movement to quieten free speech will eventually come back to bite us all on the arse.

My thoughts are that free speech should be anything the best rebuttals are debates and truths and logic and free thought and most importantly readily available data.

Thank you internet

I think that with the internet, and the miryad news sources available, speech has never been freer. In fact, it makes you realise how narrow the TV and newspaper sources are.

Trumps whole slant on fake news and whatnot seems to be him realising for the first time that sources have bias. think we looked at the evaluation of sources in history when I was about 12, so that sources have a bias isn't really news to people who aren't actual fucktards, like Trump...

Trumps tactics have been used, successfully, before. Pointing that on here will probably cause a row though.

"

.

But that's my point, this is no different than college campus safe zones, do you mention how bad they are on a regular basis?. I'm guessing you don't because they're narrative suits your world view?.

Again question marks all over because I don't know what you think.

Free thought and free speech can only be corrupted by limiting data surely.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Did you like my comment about them being dweebs and losers shorty?

Hopefully it'll die out when they realise it's not getting them laid?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Any luvvie going to condemn the attack in Sehwan?

I'll happily condemn the terrorist attack, but what has this got to do with this thread? "

this thread is about people getting a hard on because 3 dickheads claiming to be right wing go out and injure somebody and will quite rightly face the full force of the law while of the attack the previous night when 85 people were killed there has been no mention. Just seems a little strange. Maybe people should have some perspective and realise where the real danger will come from. Cue accusations of being alt. Right

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By *et-shortyMan  over a year ago

Manchester


"Did you like my comment about them being dweebs and losers shorty?

Hopefully it'll die out when they realise it's not getting them laid? "

.

I'm not sure, personally I think there just youngsters doing what youngsters do, finding there feet,I think a problem for millennials is that they were the first generation to have their hand held everywhere, I'll qualify that, when I was small, we were allowed out alone all the time in relatively big groups, as children we had to find our own footing amongst peers, the rise in crime and media which allowed a larger viewing of events meant parents slowly but surely strangled out that freedom I once had, children afterwards were routinely monitored by parents, always close by to give "moral authority" over disputes.

You can see this in millennials today, they don't know what to do without the above moral authority telling them, that's why they need safe spaces all of a sudden, instead of when I went to university the last thing we wanted was a safe space, we wanted to experience everything, good and bad, it was a lurch from one thing to the next and back again as I found new things and learnt along the way.

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston

Well you have to hand it to Trump...

The media are the enemies of the people with an agenda. They publish fake news. The leaks are real and illegal but the stories are false. And so far they have covered up the Bowling Green massacre and a serious incident in Sweden. The first 4 weeks of Trumps presidency have been the greatest ever (like the crowds at his inauguration). The Wite House is running so smoothly it has never eun better. And his supporters are swallowing every bit of his guff!

Alternative news has just been given steroids. God help the USA, god help us all.

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By *et-shortyMan  over a year ago

Manchester


"Well you have to hand it to Trump...

The media are the enemies of the people with an agenda. They publish fake news. The leaks are real and illegal but the stories are false. And so far they have covered up the Bowling Green massacre and a serious incident in Sweden. The first 4 weeks of Trumps presidency have been the greatest ever (like the crowds at his inauguration). The Wite House is running so smoothly it has never eun better. And his supporters are swallowing every bit of his guff!

Alternative news has just been given steroids. God help the USA, god help us all. "

.

It worked for Hitler in a different era, there was no access to information like today, hardly anybody ever left the country they were born in except to emigrate and even then, you wouldn't phone home to say what it was like as phone calls were very expensive, all you had was letter writing.

I'm very hopeful for generation z,I think there the first generation that grew up with the internet and free speech from all sides

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Did you like my comment about them being dweebs and losers shorty?

Hopefully it'll die out when they realise it's not getting them laid? .

I'm not sure, personally I think there just youngsters doing what youngsters do, finding there feet,I think a problem for millennials is that they were the first generation to have their hand held everywhere, I'll qualify that, when I was small, we were allowed out alone all the time in relatively big groups, as children we had to find our own footing amongst peers, the rise in crime and media which allowed a larger viewing of events meant parents slowly but surely strangled out that freedom I once had, children afterwards were routinely monitored by parents, always close by to give "moral authority" over disputes.

You can see this in millennials today, they don't know what to do without the above moral authority telling them, that's why they need safe spaces all of a sudden, instead of when I went to university the last thing we wanted was a safe space, we wanted to experience everything, good and bad, it was a lurch from one thing to the next and back again as I found new things and learnt along the way."

All good points but surely most of them have a few ounces of courage? Is it a minority doing all the whinging?

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By *et-shortyMan  over a year ago

Manchester


"Did you like my comment about them being dweebs and losers shorty?

Hopefully it'll die out when they realise it's not getting them laid? .

I'm not sure, personally I think there just youngsters doing what youngsters do, finding there feet,I think a problem for millennials is that they were the first generation to have their hand held everywhere, I'll qualify that, when I was small, we were allowed out alone all the time in relatively big groups, as children we had to find our own footing amongst peers, the rise in crime and media which allowed a larger viewing of events meant parents slowly but surely strangled out that freedom I once had, children afterwards were routinely monitored by parents, always close by to give "moral authority" over disputes.

You can see this in millennials today, they don't know what to do without the above moral authority telling them, that's why they need safe spaces all of a sudden, instead of when I went to university the last thing we wanted was a safe space, we wanted to experience everything, good and bad, it was a lurch from one thing to the next and back again as I found new things and learnt along the way.

All good points but surely most of them have a few ounces of courage? Is it a minority doing all the whinging? "

.

I don't think there whinging at all, I think there more than happy to use violence as much as the alt right.i think the problem is they didn't resolve this as children and suddenly in their 20s the same disputes are occurring about their place in society.

Like I said I think generation z will be completely different

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Did you like my comment about them being dweebs and losers shorty?

Hopefully it'll die out when they realise it's not getting them laid? .

I'm not sure, personally I think there just youngsters doing what youngsters do, finding there feet,I think a problem for millennials is that they were the first generation to have their hand held everywhere, I'll qualify that, when I was small, we were allowed out alone all the time in relatively big groups, as children we had to find our own footing amongst peers, the rise in crime and media which allowed a larger viewing of events meant parents slowly but surely strangled out that freedom I once had, children afterwards were routinely monitored by parents, always close by to give "moral authority" over disputes.

You can see this in millennials today, they don't know what to do without the above moral authority telling them, that's why they need safe spaces all of a sudden, instead of when I went to university the last thing we wanted was a safe space, we wanted to experience everything, good and bad, it was a lurch from one thing to the next and back again as I found new things and learnt along the way."

Was watching a Trump protestors video on Youtube earlier, and the reporter filming asked one of them "What are you here for?"

It was a young guy, (looked around college/uni age) and he said, "I don't know i'm just here with my mom".

Half of these dumb ass mommys boys don't even know what they are protesting against.

Its late now and i'm off to bed, i'll see if i can find the video again tomorrow and post it on the thread.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Any luvvie going to condemn the attack in Sehwan?

I'll happily condemn the terrorist attack, but what has this got to do with this thread?

this thread is about people getting a hard on because 3 dickheads claiming to be right wing go out and injure somebody and will quite rightly face the full force of the law while of the attack the previous night when 85 people were killed there has been no mention. Just seems a little strange. Maybe people should have some perspective and realise where the real danger will come from. Cue accusations of being alt. Right "

I think the second post on this thread got lost a long time ago. The convo is now more about how generally media reporting is less onjective and more sensationalist on all sides. And how having all political leaders stuck in their own bubbles aint a good idea.

In all honesty I get your point. Its crappy to condem one form of terrorism and not ghe other.

That said, it is concerning to see right wing terrorism actually being acted out in europe - from a group open about racial superiority ect. The fact it, that will breed radical anti-facist terrorism, then it will slowly tear appart the centre.

And for the record, I think most left wing inclined individuals are happy to admit that islamic fundamentalists are a threat, if thats what you were hinting at. The point is, you have to make a point of seperating that group from those who are simply religiously devout/less devout.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Or that point, what's the difference between terrorism and war? Innocent people die regardless.

Using the Iraq war as an example of futility.... Weapons of mass destruction... Nope... just media hysteria by war criminals

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

And for the record, I think most left wing inclined individuals are happy to admit that islamic fundamentalists are a threat, if thats what you were hinting at. The point is, you have to make a point of seperating that group from those who are simply religiously devout/less devout."

Judge individually by merit not by tribe

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"Did you like my comment about them being dweebs and losers shorty?

Hopefully it'll die out when they realise it's not getting them laid? .

I'm not sure, personally I think there just youngsters doing what youngsters do, finding there feet,I think a problem for millennials is that they were the first generation to have their hand held everywhere, I'll qualify that, when I was small, we were allowed out alone all the time in relatively big groups, as children we had to find our own footing amongst peers, the rise in crime and media which allowed a larger viewing of events meant parents slowly but surely strangled out that freedom I once had, children afterwards were routinely monitored by parents, always close by to give "moral authority" over disputes.

You can see this in millennials today, they don't know what to do without the above moral authority telling them, that's why they need safe spaces all of a sudden, instead of when I went to university the last thing we wanted was a safe space, we wanted to experience everything, good and bad, it was a lurch from one thing to the next and back again as I found new things and learnt along the way.

Was watching a Trump protestors video on Youtube earlier, and the reporter filming asked one of them "What are you here for?"

It was a young guy, (looked around college/uni age) and he said, "I don't know i'm just here with my mom".

Half of these dumb ass mommys boys don't even know what they are protesting against.

Its late now and i'm off to bed, i'll see if i can find the video again tomorrow and post it on the thread. "

Half?

From one dude on some youtube video?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London

Fake news and betrayal of Trump is the US incarnation of remoaning and opposition to Brexit being unpatriotic.

We've seen open criticism of the judiciary on both sides of the Pond too.

It's only purpose is to shut down scrutiny.

When I see people writing that all news is fake apart from RT and Fox which tell the truth I think that perhaps I'm observing the world from outside

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Any luvvie going to condemn the attack in Sehwan?

I'll happily condemn the terrorist attack, but what has this got to do with this thread?

this thread is about people getting a hard on because 3 dickheads claiming to be right wing go out and injure somebody and will quite rightly face the full force of the law while of the attack the previous night when 85 people were killed there has been no mention. Just seems a little strange. Maybe people should have some perspective and realise where the real danger will come from. Cue accusations of being alt. Right "

You finally get the message. Why does events get covered more in the western world than in Pakistan? It skews all our views no matter what ideology you follow. I'm glad you see the truth comrade.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

I'm not sure what the fuss is about. Everything seems to be quite normal in Sweden's 55 police no-go areas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Ew300dMxY

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"When asked about last night in Sweden Paul Nuttall said it was far too traumatic and raw at present but to give him a day and he will have come up with something.."

Nuttall lost close personal friends in that attack in Sen, follow professional footballer doctorate holding charity board members who were his neighbours in Stoke. Why don't you cut the man some slack?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"When asked about last night in Sweden Paul Nuttall said it was far too traumatic and raw at present but to give him a day and he will have come up with something..

Nuttall lost close personal friends in that attack in Sen, follow professional footballer doctorate holding charity board members who were his neighbours in Stoke. Why don't you cut the man some slack? "

lol, just like you cut Trump some slack, and Brexit some slack

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lol

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

For all any of us know there could have been something gone down in sweden but went unreported but info has leaked and he has spoken out of turn.

After all how many times do we hear months later that there has been an incident but nobody got to hear about it?

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"For all any of us know there could have been something gone down in sweden but went unreported but info has leaked and he has spoken out of turn.

After all how many times do we hear months later that there has been an incident but nobody got to hear about it?

"

That's a very novel approach.

There might have been something that the Donald knows that the Swedish do not know or are hiding?

Secret "stuff"? Well I guess the Swedes will be pleased if he is.sharing something that they don't want to, so that's a diplomatic win at least...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Any luvvie going to condemn the attack in Sehwan?

I'll happily condemn the terrorist attack, but what has this got to do with this thread?

this thread is about people getting a hard on because 3 dickheads claiming to be right wing go out and injure somebody and will quite rightly face the full force of the law while of the attack the previous night when 85 people were killed there has been no mention. Just seems a little strange. Maybe people should have some perspective and realise where the real danger will come from. Cue accusations of being alt. Right "

No need for accusations. Your attempt to label them "Dickheads" not neo nazi terrorists is telling .Also they are "Claiming " to be right wing when they are known members of a neo Nazi party according to the police.You cant even bring yourself to call them neo nazi.

Just look at the language manipulation used by these people..

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"For all any of us know there could have been something gone down in sweden but went unreported but info has leaked and he has spoken out of turn.

After all how many times do we hear months later that there has been an incident but nobody got to hear about it?

"

Really..... a massacre????????

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Any luvvie going to condemn the attack in Sehwan?"

Absolutely... horrible attack and shows Isis attack anyone!

But that is not trump was on about since he tweeted that he saw an article on Fox News about Sweden and immigration

So.... fake news then?

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By *obka3Couple  over a year ago

bournemouth

so fox equals fake and cnn equals truth?

Believe which you want but lets not fool ourselves news outlets all seem to have an agenda these days even the beeb

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For all any of us know there could have been something gone down in sweden but went unreported but info has leaked and he has spoken out of turn.

After all how many times do we hear months later that there has been an incident but nobody got to hear about it?

Really..... a massacre????????"

I did hear about him hearing something on Fox News LoL, but it does not have to be a massacre does it? How many times have our own and other security forces stopped potential acts of terrorism that we have yet the hear about?

In the uk we live in a safe little bubble mostly of the time becaus our own security is on it all of the time

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Fake news and betrayal of Trump is the US incarnation of remoaning and opposition to Brexit being unpatriotic.

We've seen open criticism of the judiciary on both sides of the Pond too.

It's only purpose is to shut down scrutiny.

When I see people writing that all news is fake apart from RT and Fox which tell the truth I think that perhaps I'm observing the world from outside "

This..

Creating the narrative that 'they' are lying to you and only we are right is dangerous politics but some even some seemingly intelligent people lap it up..

Objectivity is lost with some or ignored in their desire to spread an agenda, the current lean to the far right by some will have direct and dangerous consequences for many and the game players will sit and smile..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so fox equals fake and cnn equals truth?

Believe which you want but lets not fool ourselves news outlets all seem to have an agenda these days even the beeb "

Christianity is the one true religion. That may sound awfully dogmatic and narrow-minded, but the simple truth is that Christianity is the only true religion. Jesus said that He alone was the way to the Father (John 14:6)--that He alone revealed the Father (Matt. 11:27; Luke 10:22). Christians do not go around saying Christianity is the only way because they are arrogant, narrow-minded, stupid, and judgmental. They do so because they believe what Jesus said. They believe in Jesus, who claimed to be God (John 8:58; Exodus 3:14), who forgave sins (Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48), and who rose from the dead (Luke 24:24-29; John 2:19f). Jesus said that He was the only way. Jesus is unique. He was either telling the truth, He was crazy, or He was a liar. But since everyone agrees that Jesus was a good man, how then could He be both good and crazy or good and a liar? He had to be telling the truth. He is the only way.

Christianity is not just a religion; it is a relationship with God. It is a trusting in Jesus and what He did on the cross (1 Cor. 15:1-4)--not on what you can do for yourself (Ephesians 2:8-9).

Buddha didn't rise from the dead nor did Confucius or Zoroaster. Muhammad didn't fulfill detailed prophecy. Alexander the Great didn't raise the dead or heal the sick. And though there is far less reliable information written about them, people believed in them.

The scripture is right when it says in 1 Pet. 2:7-8, "This precious value, then, is for you who believe. But for those who disbelieve, 'The stone which the builders rejected, this became the very corner stone,' and, 'A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense'; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed."

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire

All well and good but one doesn't need a made up piece of dogma whichever cult wrote it to live by..

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"For all any of us know there could have been something gone down in sweden but went unreported but info has leaked and he has spoken out of turn.

After all how many times do we hear months later that there has been an incident but nobody got to hear about it?

That's a very novel approach.

There might have been something that the Donald knows that the Swedish do not know or are hiding?

Secret "stuff"? Well I guess the Swedes will be pleased if he is.sharing something that they don't want to, so that's a diplomatic win at least..."

Wouldn't be the first time authorities tried to cover something up and stop the story getting out. It happened with the mass sexual assaults by migrants in Cologne, Germany.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"...

But that is not trump was on about since he tweeted that he saw an article on Fox News about Sweden and immigration

So.... fake news then? "

Sweden has been masterfully doing fake news for years, especially in relation to crime and immigrants.

Peter Springare a Swedish police officer listed the crimes that he had spent the week investigating and posted them on his Facebook page:

"Here we go; this is what I’ve handled from Monday-Friday this week: rape, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, rape-assault and rape, extortion, blackmail, assault, violence against police, threats to police, drug crime, drugs, crime, felony, attempted murder, rape again, extortion again and ill-treatment."

 

“Suspected perpetrators; Ali Mohammed, Mahmod, Mohammed, Mohammed Ali, again, again, again. Christopher… what, is it true? Yes, a Swedish name snuck in on the edges of a drug crime. Mohammed, Mahmod Ali, again and again."

 

“Countries representing all the crimes this week: Iraq, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Somalia, Syria again, Somalia, unknown, unknown country, Sweden. Half of the suspects, we can’t be sure because they don’t have any valid papers. Which in itself usually means that they’re lying about their nationality and identity.”

Sweden's police and PC Gestapo are on to him however and a report has since been filed by police accusing Springare of "racial agitation" or as we know it a 'hate crime' and he is now subject to an internal investigation!?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so fox equals fake and cnn equals truth?

Believe which you want but lets not fool ourselves news outlets all seem to have an agenda these days even the beeb

Christianity is the one true religion. That may sound awfully dogmatic and narrow-minded, but the simple truth is that Christianity is the only true religion. Jesus said that He alone was the way to the Father (John 14:6)--that He alone revealed the Father (Matt. 11:27; Luke 10:22). Christians do not go around saying Christianity is the only way because they are arrogant, narrow-minded, stupid, and judgmental. They do so because they believe what Jesus said. They believe in Jesus, who claimed to be God (John 8:58; Exodus 3:14), who forgave sins (Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48), and who rose from the dead (Luke 24:24-29; John 2:19f). Jesus said that He was the only way. Jesus is unique. He was either telling the truth, He was crazy, or He was a liar. But since everyone agrees that Jesus was a good man, how then could He be both good and crazy or good and a liar? He had to be telling the truth. He is the only way.

Christianity is not just a religion; it is a relationship with God. It is a trusting in Jesus and what He did on the cross (1 Cor. 15:1-4)--not on what you can do for yourself (Ephesians 2:8-9).

Buddha didn't rise from the dead nor did Confucius or Zoroaster. Muhammad didn't fulfill detailed prophecy. Alexander the Great didn't raise the dead or heal the sick. And though there is far less reliable information written about them, people believed in them.

The scripture is right when it says in 1 Pet. 2:7-8, "This precious value, then, is for you who believe. But for those who disbelieve, 'The stone which the builders rejected, this became the very corner stone,' and, 'A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense'; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed."

"

Stevie your posts give me the most giggles.The incoherent ramblings of a bronze age cult has no place in the world or in this thread. You are so off topic.However start another thread about the one true god and we will have a giggle togeather

This thread is about trumps fake terror attack in sweden.The Swedish goverment needs answers and fast..

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so fox equals fake and cnn equals truth?

Believe which you want but lets not fool ourselves news outlets all seem to have an agenda these days even the beeb

Christianity is the one true religion. That may sound awfully dogmatic and narrow-minded, but the simple truth is that Christianity is the only true religion. Jesus said that He alone was the way to the Father (John 14:6)--that He alone revealed the Father (Matt. 11:27; Luke 10:22). Christians do not go around saying Christianity is the only way because they are arrogant, narrow-minded, stupid, and judgmental. They do so because they believe what Jesus said. They believe in Jesus, who claimed to be God (John 8:58; Exodus 3:14), who forgave sins (Mark 2:5; Luke 5:20; 7:48), and who rose from the dead (Luke 24:24-29; John 2:19f). Jesus said that He was the only way. Jesus is unique. He was either telling the truth, He was crazy, or He was a liar. But since everyone agrees that Jesus was a good man, how then could He be both good and crazy or good and a liar? He had to be telling the truth. He is the only way.

Christianity is not just a religion; it is a relationship with God. It is a trusting in Jesus and what He did on the cross (1 Cor. 15:1-4)--not on what you can do for yourself (Ephesians 2:8-9).

Buddha didn't rise from the dead nor did Confucius or Zoroaster. Muhammad didn't fulfill detailed prophecy. Alexander the Great didn't raise the dead or heal the sick. And though there is far less reliable information written about them, people believed in them.

The scripture is right when it says in 1 Pet. 2:7-8, "This precious value, then, is for you who believe. But for those who disbelieve, 'The stone which the builders rejected, this became the very corner stone,' and, 'A stone of stumbling and a rock of offense'; for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed."

Stevie your posts give me the most giggles.The incoherent ramblings of a bronze age cult has no place in the world or in this thread. You are so off topic.However start another thread about the one true god and we will have a giggle togeather

This thread is about trumps fake terror attack in sweden.The Swedish goverment needs answers and fast.. "

not at all, the reply fits in well with this thread

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By *abioMan  over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"so fox equals fake and cnn equals truth?

"

I never said that... I was just stating where trump tweeted he got his information from... which then begs the question

"is he this bad at taking in information?"

So either Fox News wasn't telling the truth... or trump wasn't telling the truth.... so which side do you want to hitch your wagon to?

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By *illwill69uMan  over a year ago

moston


"For all any of us know there could have been something gone down in sweden but went unreported but info has leaked and he has spoken out of turn.

After all how many times do we hear months later that there has been an incident but nobody got to hear about it?

"

Your right!

And there was the attack on New York... Those commie Mexicans from the EU N. Korean, Chinese coalition (what you not hear of that? Its bad, very very bad) have hit the city with a bad uranium (not good uranium like what we have) bomb, and all those fake news media have hid it away because they are enemies of the sheepole...sorry people, it was bad, very bad...

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"For all any of us know there could have been something gone down in sweden but went unreported but info has leaked and he has spoken out of turn.

After all how many times do we hear months later that there has been an incident but nobody got to hear about it?

Your right!

And there was the attack on New York... Those commie Mexicans from the EU N. Korean, Chinese coalition (what you not hear of that? Its bad, very very bad) have hit the city with a bad uranium (not good uranium like what we have) bomb, and all those fake news media have hid it away because they are enemies of the sheepole...sorry people, it was bad, very bad..."

This made me giggle.. The media never reported on the isis terror training camp nasa discovered on the moon.You'll all be sorry when they come here with muslamic ray guns..

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London


"so fox equals fake and cnn equals truth?

I never said that... I was just stating where trump tweeted he got his information from... which then begs the question

"is he this bad at taking in information?"

So either Fox News wasn't telling the truth... or trump wasn't telling the truth.... so which side do you want to hitch your wagon to?"

What he doesn't do is get daily briefings from the best funded intelligence services on the planet. Out of choice.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Yes they are all fine

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"so fox equals fake and cnn equals truth?

Believe which you want but lets not fool ourselves news outlets all seem to have an agenda these days even the beeb "

What on earth are you talking about? "These days"? News sources have always had bias, and always will... I'm sure that any secondary school pupil could tell you that.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Imagine if everyone spoke out about islamination in sweden lol.

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London

As the Donald frequently used outrages statements to divert attention during the election are we missing something here or is it just Flynn that he's trying to get out of the news cycle?

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"For all any of us know there could have been something gone down in sweden but went unreported but info has leaked and he has spoken out of turn.

After all how many times do we hear months later that there has been an incident but nobody got to hear about it?

Your right!

And there was the attack on New York... Those commie Mexicans from the EU N. Korean, Chinese coalition (what you not hear of that? Its bad, very very bad) have hit the city with a bad uranium (not good uranium like what we have) bomb, and all those fake news media have hid it away because they are enemies of the sheepole...sorry people, it was bad, very bad..."

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple  over a year ago

in Lancashire


"For all any of us know there could have been something gone down in sweden but went unreported but info has leaked and he has spoken out of turn.

After all how many times do we hear months later that there has been an incident but nobody got to hear about it?

Your right!

And there was the attack on New York... Those commie Mexicans from the EU N. Korean, Chinese coalition (what you not hear of that? Its bad, very very bad) have hit the city with a bad uranium (not good uranium like what we have) bomb, and all those fake news media have hid it away because they are enemies of the sheepole...sorry people, it was bad, very bad...This made me giggle.. The media never reported on the isis terror training camp nasa discovered on the moon.You'll all be sorry when they come here with muslamic ray guns.."

It'll be ok cos Flash Nuttall is training an army of defenders to protect us from the off planet bad dudes..

That's Field Marshall Nuttall. Recently retired

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"

It'll be ok cos Flash Nuttall is training an army of defenders to protect us from the off planet bad dudes..

That's Field Marshall Nuttall. Recently retired"

it says on his website that he recently lost some friends in the charge of the light bridgade while they were on route to deliver his offer of professorship in alien space technology at bowling green university and that he's hiding in a alt reich safe space from a lesbian zombie special forces unit that has picked up a contract issued by the official government mainstream media in fuckwitistan, which no-one knows exists as a country because it hasn't been covered

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By *oi_Lucy OP   Couple  over a year ago

Barbados


"As the Donald frequently used outrages statements to divert attention during the election are we missing something here or is it just Flynn that he's trying to get out of the news cycle?"

where do you want to start? lol

-Matt

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By *LCCCouple  over a year ago

Cambridge


"As the Donald frequently used outrages statements to divert attention during the election are we missing something here or is it just Flynn that he's trying to get out of the news cycle?"

"I know, I'll show my incompetence to move the news cycle on from the incompetence of my team!"

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By *oi_Lucy OP   Couple  over a year ago

Barbados

So, some right wing blowhard Paul Watson offered to pay for tickets and accommodation for any journos wanting to see what Malmo was actually like. Fair enough.

But in response to the flood of offers he got taking him up he tweeted a series of 4 pics along with:

"All you lefty idiots accepting a “trip to Sweden”. Can you read? I said you’d be staying here. Good luck. "

only the 4 pics he decided to illustrate his point with were looked up and mostly identified:

First pic: 2008 story about a Polish far-right group planning to attack immigrants.

Second pic: It's a 2009 protest about Israel competing in the Davis Cup. No immigrants here.

Third pic: no source found. Could be anything.

Fourth pic: 2008 story about student squatters angry about lack of affordable housing. No immigration angle.

Whether his point on Malmo is true or not, I really don't see why he sees the need to use irrelevant and misleading pics to try and prove his point. I mean, if he actually had any conviction he wouldn't need to lie about it all.

He has since deleted his tweet now as clearly showing himself off to be a complete idiot.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/paul-joseph-watson-twitter-sweden-trip_uk_58ab04f6e4b037d17d29b00a

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As the Donald frequently used outrages statements to divert attention during the election are we missing something here or is it just Flynn that he's trying to get out of the news cycle?"

I think he'd happily distract us from the questions about Russia surrounding his administration.

But in this case I really do think he just saw a badly fact-checked story on Fox and ran with it in his usual style without (1) realizing he wasn't being accurate about the story, (2) realizing that the story on Fox wasn't quite accurate itself, and (3) realizing that it would be noticed quite as much as it was.

His former campaign events of the same style weren't as heavily scrutinized because he wasn't the President. I would say this is a wake-up call but I don't want to give him too much credit.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"As the Donald frequently used outrages statements to divert attention during the election are we missing something here or is it just Flynn that he's trying to get out of the news cycle?

I think he'd happily distract us from the questions about Russia surrounding his administration.

But in this case I really do think he just saw a badly fact-checked story on Fox and ran with it in his usual style without (1) realizing he wasn't being accurate about the story, (2) realizing that the story on Fox wasn't quite accurate itself, and (3) realizing that it would be noticed quite as much as it was.

His former campaign events of the same style weren't as heavily scrutinized because he wasn't the President. I would say this is a wake-up call but I don't want to give him too much credit."

I think you're probably right.I do question though,why after becoming POTUS he is adding fuel to fire and responding to every criticism .I think being POTUS is not enough he needs to be loved.Like the emperor's of the past.Power without adoration is a hollow victory for a narcissist.

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"...

But that is not trump was on about since he tweeted that he saw an article on Fox News about Sweden and immigration

So.... fake news then?

Sweden has been masterfully doing fake news for years, especially in relation to crime and immigrants.

Peter Springare a Swedish police officer listed the crimes that he had spent the week investigating and posted them on his Facebook page:

"Here we go; this is what I’ve handled from Monday-Friday this week: rape, rape, robbery, aggravated assault, rape-assault and rape, extortion, blackmail, assault, violence against police, threats to police, drug crime, drugs, crime, felony, attempted murder, rape again, extortion again and ill-treatment."

 

“Suspected perpetrators; Ali Mohammed, Mahmod, Mohammed, Mohammed Ali, again, again, again. Christopher… what, is it true? Yes, a Swedish name snuck in on the edges of a drug crime. Mohammed, Mahmod Ali, again and again."

 

“Countries representing all the crimes this week: Iraq, Iraq, Turkey, Syria, Afghanistan, Somalia, Somalia, Syria again, Somalia, unknown, unknown country, Sweden. Half of the suspects, we can’t be sure because they don’t have any valid papers. Which in itself usually means that they’re lying about their nationality and identity.”

Sweden's police and PC Gestapo are on to him however and a report has since been filed by police accusing Springare of "racial agitation" or as we know it a 'hate crime' and he is now subject to an internal investigation!? "

Believe me ... you don't even know half of it

Its worse my son is living and studying in stockholm ! I have been there and seen it in person !

So fact is Trump wasn't that far off the mark !

so check this out

https://www.youtube.com

/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY

want more context ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsEqKjP9p0

My son lives only 3 miles from this area reported in the last video...

Unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"so fox equals fake and cnn equals truth?

I never said that... I was just stating where trump tweeted he got his information from... which then begs the question

"is he this bad at taking in information?"

So either Fox News wasn't telling the truth... or trump wasn't telling the truth.... so which side do you want to hitch your wagon to?"

Now that we know what Sweden's 'feminist' paradise actually looks like let's see Fox News explanation: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5329816498001/?#sp=show-clips

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By *oi_Lucy OP   Couple  over a year ago

Barbados


"so fox equals fake and cnn equals truth?

I never said that... I was just stating where trump tweeted he got his information from... which then begs the question

"is he this bad at taking in information?"

So either Fox News wasn't telling the truth... or trump wasn't telling the truth.... so which side do you want to hitch your wagon to?

Now that we know what Sweden's 'feminist' paradise actually looks like let's see Fox News explanation: http://video.foxnews.com/v/5329816498001/?#sp=show-clips"

I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I think there was actually a lot to agree with in that report in terms of talking about the way Trump could handle foreign policy better. I do find it interesting though how Fox are now referring to the 'mainstream media' in the 3rd person and quite derisory, as though they are not part of the problem.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"So, some right wing blowhard Paul Watson offered to pay for tickets and accommodation for any journos wanting to see what Malmo was actually like. Fair enough.

But in response to the flood of offers he got taking him up he tweeted a series of 4 pics along with:

"All you lefty idiots accepting a “trip to Sweden”. Can you read? I said you’d be staying here. Good luck. "

only the 4 pics he decided to illustrate his point with were looked up and mostly identified:

First pic: 2008 story about a Polish far-right group planning to attack immigrants.

Second pic: It's a 2009 protest about Israel competing in the Davis Cup. No immigrants here.

Third pic: no source found. Could be anything.

Fourth pic: 2008 story about student squatters angry about lack of affordable housing. No immigration angle.

Whether his point on Malmo is true or not, I really don't see why he sees the need to use irrelevant and misleading pics to try and prove his point. I mean, if he actually had any conviction he wouldn't need to lie about it all.

He has since deleted his tweet now as clearly showing himself off to be a complete idiot.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/paul-joseph-watson-twitter-sweden-trip_uk_58ab04f6e4b037d17d29b00a

-Matt"

Shame. I would have loved to visit malmo again and do some questioning.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Last night (20.02.17) absolutely nothing unusual happened in Sweden.

Here's an account of a riot that didn't happen in the predominantly muslim district of Rinkeby in Stockholm (STV also reported a riot that didn't happen): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y89-8cNj7PM

And yes, the proof that the riot didn't happen is in the fact that police have been so well trained...that they made sure they didn't do anything about the non-existent riot and looting...until after it had finished.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

From saturday to sunday about 30 cars was burned in stockholm and violence towards the police by a gang.

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"From saturday to sunday about 30 cars was burned in stockholm and violence towards the police by a gang."

No you must be wrong .... its winter , poor lads were needing to warm up so they set cars on fire and had a party

the Cops showed up and joined in the festive spirit by firing into the air

Besides... all is valid , as long as Trump is wrong

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago

Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen .

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By *asyukMan  over a year ago

West London

I'm sure that area was a powder keg. Especially if it is ghettoised like the Paris suburbs.

I'm not implying that's a policy or forgiving it.

What I interested to know if Trump is going to have the same effect on security as he does with shares when he Tweets about a company. Does the publicity through Trump's view of the world prime an area for violence?

Again, I'm not implying anything deliberate. I'm just interested to know if this is a new phenomenon from the hyperconnection of the planet

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . "
...they were doing this long before Trump was elected.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected."
Just kids stuff.Ive set fire to a few things as a kid.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected."
That is right they have, the immigrants is called children even if they are 40.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected.That is right they have, the immigrants is called children even if they are 40."
If it was 40 year olds they should know better.What was the demographic of the rioters.?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected.That is right they have, the immigrants is called children even if they are 40. If it was 40 year olds they should know better.What was the demographic of the rioters.?"
It was muslims in a no go zone, even the express have the latest on it.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected.That is right they have, the immigrants is called children even if they are 40. If it was 40 year olds they should know better.What was the demographic of the rioters.?It was muslims in a no go zone, even the express have the latest on it. "
I wouldnt be afraid of young men burning cars.It happens here all the time.Usually after "twoc".Sometimes to draw the police into estates.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected.That is right they have, the immigrants is called children even if they are 40. If it was 40 year olds they should know better.What was the demographic of the rioters.?It was muslims in a no go zone, even the express have the latest on it. I wouldnt be afraid of young men burning cars.It happens here all the time.Usually after "twoc".Sometimes to draw the police into estates. "
That is right it does, but you dont get london burning headlines like in sweden, on another note, trump was right

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected.That is right they have, the immigrants is called children even if they are 40. If it was 40 year olds they should know better.What was the demographic of the rioters.?It was muslims in a no go zone, even the express have the latest on it. I wouldnt be afraid of young men burning cars.It happens here all the time.Usually after "twoc".Sometimes to draw the police into estates. That is right it does, but you dont get london burning headlines like in sweden, on another note, trump was right "
Trumps got a time machine

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected.That is right they have, the immigrants is called children even if they are 40. If it was 40 year olds they should know better.What was the demographic of the rioters.?It was muslims in a no go zone, even the express have the latest on it. I wouldnt be afraid of young men burning cars.It happens here all the time.Usually after "twoc".Sometimes to draw the police into estates. That is right it does, but you dont get london burning headlines like in sweden, on another note, trump was right Trumps got a time machine "

What part of "it's been happening for months" don't you understand?

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By *entaur_UKMan  over a year ago

Cannock


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected. Just kids stuff.Ive set fire to a few things as a kid. "

So you like to hit people and you are also an arsonist?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected. Just kids stuff.Ive set fire to a few things as a kid.

So you like to hit people and you are also an arsonist? "

Not an arsonist as a kid i accidentally burnt out a few things .Misspent youth.I never regretted hitting racists. The cars well that was more my associates. Kids will be kids.

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected. Just kids stuff.Ive set fire to a few things as a kid.

So you like to hit people and you are also an arsonist? Not an arsonist as a kid i accidentally burnt out a few things .Misspent youth.I never regretted hitting racists. The cars well that was more my associates. Kids will be kids. "

how many muslims did you hit?

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected. Just kids stuff.Ive set fire to a few things as a kid.

So you like to hit people and you are also an arsonist? Not an arsonist as a kid i accidentally burnt out a few things .Misspent youth.I never regretted hitting racists. The cars well that was more my associates. Kids will be kids. "

What ? or you kidding , or just stupid!

Lets see: you are a self confessed arsonist... or at least were associated to a group that were , and went around hitting people,YOU label as racists

Nice résumé... but how is that possible if you are a RACIST yourself ?

IF... you cared about the truth and facts you wouldn't be labelling those rioters as "kids letting of steam" , ignoring the reality of present day Sweden ! You have also conveniently ignored my previous posts and links therein, either because you didn't bother to see them , or refuse to admit the reality contained in them !

People like you are a danger to mankind , because you refuse to see the reality of the world , preferring to see things through the reddish tint of you extreme left view !

I am not sure if You are either naive , ignorant,stupid or all of them, but intellectually dishonest you certainly are!

Ignoring facts and replacing them with "alternative facts" or realities has got humanity into serious trouble.... Neville Chamberlain comes to mind ! He also thought Herr Hitler was a nice guy , and he had a treaty to prove it ..... we all know what followed

I will repeat it again! I have been there (Rinkeby) in person, what goes on there is not hear say , my son lives close by , and you have no idea of the reality of life in Sweden today !

But for your benefit , I will add the links again !

https://www.youtube.com

/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw

And its the norm there, watch what happened last year to a news crew:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsEqKjP9p0

So Bobbangs ... tell us , why you support "kids" that burn cars , assault women , force them to conform to islamic principles and sharia "law" , and simply

assault anyone who they consider not belonging there ? Who stone ambulances and the Fire brigade !Not to mention the Police !

How can you imply that this is also Trumps fault , when its been going on for years !!

Are you so fanatically anti Trump that anything goes , as long as its anti Trump ?

Please, Please explain

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected. Just kids stuff.Ive set fire to a few things as a kid.

So you like to hit people and you are also an arsonist? Not an arsonist as a kid i accidentally burnt out a few things .Misspent youth.I never regretted hitting racists. The cars well that was more my associates. Kids will be kids.

What ? or you kidding , or just stupid!

Lets see: you are a self confessed arsonist... or at least were associated to a group that were , and went around hitting people,YOU label as racists

Nice résumé... but how is that possible if you are a RACIST yourself ?

IF... you cared about the truth and facts you wouldn't be labelling those rioters as "kids letting of steam" , ignoring the reality of present day Sweden ! You have also conveniently ignored my previous posts and links therein, either because you didn't bother to see them , or refuse to admit the reality contained in them !

People like you are a danger to mankind , because you refuse to see the reality of the world , preferring to see things through the reddish tint of you extreme left view !

I am not sure if You are either naive , ignorant,stupid or all of them, but intellectually dishonest you certainly are!

Ignoring facts and replacing them with "alternative facts" or realities has got humanity into serious trouble.... Neville Chamberlain comes to mind ! He also thought Herr Hitler was a nice guy , and he had a treaty to prove it ..... we all know what followed

I will repeat it again! I have been there (Rinkeby) in person, what goes on there is not hear say , my son lives close by , and you have no idea of the reality of life in Sweden today !

But for your benefit , I will add the links again !

https://www.youtube.com

/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw

And its the norm there, watch what happened last year to a news crew:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsEqKjP9p0

So Bobbangs ... tell us , why you support "kids" that burn cars , assault women , force them to conform to islamic principles and sharia "law" , and simply

assault anyone who they consider not belonging there ? Who stone ambulances and the Fire brigade !Not to mention the Police !

How can you imply that this is also Trumps fault , when its been going on for years !!

Are you so fanatically anti Trump that anything goes , as long as its anti Trump ?

Please, Please explain "

Hi tony First take a deep breath relax. You seem outraged at the burning of cars.Stoning of police cars and ambulances .Plenty of estates in the uk have kids setting fire to stuff like cars or bins or trees. On any given saturday night this happens.To draw the police in and have some trouble. You seem very sensitive to this maybe your childhood was sheltered.Kids at my school would steal cars in their lunch break.. These cars would be burnt out later.Dont worry Tony ,i am no threat to the future of humanity as far as i know. You can sleep well tonight.

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected. Just kids stuff.Ive set fire to a few things as a kid.

So you like to hit people and you are also an arsonist? Not an arsonist as a kid i accidentally burnt out a few things .Misspent youth.I never regretted hitting racists. The cars well that was more my associates. Kids will be kids.

What ? or you kidding , or just stupid!

Lets see: you are a self confessed arsonist... or at least were associated to a group that were , and went around hitting people,YOU label as racists

Nice résumé... but how is that possible if you are a RACIST yourself ?

IF... you cared about the truth and facts you wouldn't be labelling those rioters as "kids letting of steam" , ignoring the reality of present day Sweden ! You have also conveniently ignored my previous posts and links therein, either because you didn't bother to see them , or refuse to admit the reality contained in them !

People like you are a danger to mankind , because you refuse to see the reality of the world , preferring to see things through the reddish tint of you extreme left view !

I am not sure if You are either naive , ignorant,stupid or all of them, but intellectually dishonest you certainly are!

Ignoring facts and replacing them with "alternative facts" or realities has got humanity into serious trouble.... Neville Chamberlain comes to mind ! He also thought Herr Hitler was a nice guy , and he had a treaty to prove it ..... we all know what followed

I will repeat it again! I have been there (Rinkeby) in person, what goes on there is not hear say , my son lives close by , and you have no idea of the reality of life in Sweden today !

But for your benefit , I will add the links again !

https://www.youtube.com

/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw

And its the norm there, watch what happened last year to a news crew:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsEqKjP9p0

So Bobbangs ... tell us , why you support "kids" that burn cars , assault women , force them to conform to islamic principles and sharia "law" , and simply

assault anyone who they consider not belonging there ? Who stone ambulances and the Fire brigade !Not to mention the Police !

How can you imply that this is also Trumps fault , when its been going on for years !!

Are you so fanatically anti Trump that anything goes , as long as its anti Trump ?

Please, Please explain Hi tony First take a deep breath relax. You seem outraged at the burning of cars.Stoning of police cars and ambulances .Plenty of estates in the uk have kids setting fire to stuff like cars or bins or trees. On any given saturday night this happens.To draw the police in and have some trouble. You seem very sensitive to this maybe your childhood was sheltered.Kids at my school would steal cars in their lunch break.. These cars would be burnt out later.Dont worry Tony ,i am no threat to the future of humanity as far as i know. You can sleep well tonight."

Oh come on... get real !

You are trying to evade the point!

No my childhood was not sheltered , and to that point, without going into details as to where, and what, at the age of eight , and as a result of a revolution, my normal life of having my friends, my bedroom, my toys, and going to school, was shattered! After a 5 day ordeal of survival I found myself in a refugee camp queuing up for a bowl of soup ! All I owned were the clothes I was wearing !

At that age I learned a few facts that are still with me today :

1- the line between normality and chaos is very thin.

2-Never trust the goverment or "authorities".

3- Never trust the police.

4- Have a gun you survive, not having a gun you die !

So yes, I am sensitive , because I have suffered the consequences of what happens when leftist PC people like you try to white wash and ignore facts and signs of impending trouble !

So I ask AGAIN ! Have you seen the links?

Why are you a RACIST ?

Was it Trump´s fault as you implied,and was he completely wrong?

Do you have the Balls to see what these events are and admit that you are

WRONG ?

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Its just kids letting of steam.Most likely because trump faned the flames the day before. Or one of their own got nicked. ..Unless trump can see into the future and he knew it was going to happen . ...they were doing this long before Trump was elected. Just kids stuff.Ive set fire to a few things as a kid.

So you like to hit people and you are also an arsonist? Not an arsonist as a kid i accidentally burnt out a few things .Misspent youth.I never regretted hitting racists. The cars well that was more my associates. Kids will be kids.

What ? or you kidding , or just stupid!

Lets see: you are a self confessed arsonist... or at least were associated to a group that were , and went around hitting people,YOU label as racists

Nice résumé... but how is that possible if you are a RACIST yourself ?

IF... you cared about the truth and facts you wouldn't be labelling those rioters as "kids letting of steam" , ignoring the reality of present day Sweden ! You have also conveniently ignored my previous posts and links therein, either because you didn't bother to see them , or refuse to admit the reality contained in them !

People like you are a danger to mankind , because you refuse to see the reality of the world , preferring to see things through the reddish tint of you extreme left view !

I am not sure if You are either naive , ignorant,stupid or all of them, but intellectually dishonest you certainly are!

Ignoring facts and replacing them with "alternative facts" or realities has got humanity into serious trouble.... Neville Chamberlain comes to mind ! He also thought Herr Hitler was a nice guy , and he had a treaty to prove it ..... we all know what followed

I will repeat it again! I have been there (Rinkeby) in person, what goes on there is not hear say , my son lives close by , and you have no idea of the reality of life in Sweden today !

But for your benefit , I will add the links again !

https://www.youtube.com

/watch?v=y1_viPSD-bY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KSJY0c8QWw

And its the norm there, watch what happened last year to a news crew:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCsEqKjP9p0

So Bobbangs ... tell us , why you support "kids" that burn cars , assault women , force them to conform to islamic principles and sharia "law" , and simply

assault anyone who they consider not belonging there ? Who stone ambulances and the Fire brigade !Not to mention the Police !

How can you imply that this is also Trumps fault , when its been going on for years !!

Are you so fanatically anti Trump that anything goes , as long as its anti Trump ?

Please, Please explain Hi tony First take a deep breath relax. You seem outraged at the burning of cars.Stoning of police cars and ambulances .Plenty of estates in the uk have kids setting fire to stuff like cars or bins or trees. On any given saturday night this happens.To draw the police in and have some trouble. You seem very sensitive to this maybe your childhood was sheltered.Kids at my school would steal cars in their lunch break.. These cars would be burnt out later.Dont worry Tony ,i am no threat to the future of humanity as far as i know. You can sleep well tonight.

Oh come on... get real !

You are trying to evade the point!

No my childhood was not sheltered , and to that point, without going into details as to where, and what, at the age of eight , and as a result of a revolution, my normal life of having my friends, my bedroom, my toys, and going to school, was shattered! After a 5 day ordeal of survival I found myself in a refugee camp queuing up for a bowl of soup ! All I owned were the clothes I was wearing !

At that age I learned a few facts that are still with me today :

1- the line between normality and chaos is very thin.

2-Never trust the goverment or "authorities".

3- Never trust the police.

4- Have a gun you survive, not having a gun you die !

So yes, I am sensitive , because I have suffered the consequences of what happens when leftist PC people like you try to white wash and ignore facts and signs of impending trouble !

So I ask AGAIN ! Have you seen the links?

Why are you a RACIST ?

Was it Trump´s fault as you implied,and was he completely wrong?

Do you have the Balls to see what these events are and admit that you are

WRONG ?

"

Does it involve some sort of anglo saxon apocalypse were our children are all wearing the veil and hijab and a muslim caliphate in Europe . Yep had the email filed it under the end is nigh.

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By *imiUKMan  over a year ago

Hereford


"From saturday to sunday about 30 cars was burned in stockholm and violence towards the police by a gang."

Sounds like a normal night in Swansea to me...

Oh, wait... Sockholm....

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"From saturday to sunday about 30 cars was burned in stockholm and violence towards the police by a gang.

Sounds like a normal night in Swansea to me...

Oh, wait... Sockholm...."

Swansea is a goodnight out.

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal

Does it involve some sort of anglo saxon apocalypse were our children are all wearing the veil and hijab and a muslim caliphate in Europe . Yep had the email filed it under the end is nigh.

Bobbangs !

You are deflecting the issue , either you cant read or are mentally retarded !

You are Everything I suspected you were in my posts and more !

You still refuse to face the facts and reply to my questions !

You know well this thread is about Sweden , not the UK !

So stop being a coward !

Man up ... Reply

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By (user no longer on site)  over a year ago


"Does it involve some sort of anglo saxon apocalypse were our children are all wearing the veil and hijab and a muslim caliphate in Europe . Yep had the email filed it under the end is nigh.

Bobbangs !

You are deflecting the issue , either you cant read or are mentally retarded !

You are Everything I suspected you were in my posts and more !

You still refuse to face the facts and reply to my questions !

You know well this thread is about Sweden , not the UK !

So stop being a coward !

Man up ... Reply "

Tony my guess is that some disaffected young kids heard about trumps speech and decided to burn up some cars and have some trouble.I cant find a fuck to give over this its standard saturday night shit. I just dont buy into your dysfunctional view of sweden and fear of the islamification of Europe. Your wasting your time persuading me to join your crusade.

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Does it involve some sort of anglo saxon apocalypse were our children are all wearing the veil and hijab and a muslim caliphate in Europe . Yep had the email filed it under the end is nigh.

Bobbangs !

You are deflecting the issue , either you cant read or are mentally retarded !

You are Everything I suspected you were in my posts and more !

You still refuse to face the facts and reply to my questions !

You know well this thread is about Sweden , not the UK !

So stop being a coward !

Man up ... Reply Tony my guess is that some disaffected young kids heard about trumps speech and decided to burn up some cars and have some trouble.I cant find a fuck to give over this its standard saturday night shit. I just dont buy into your dysfunctional view of sweden and fear of the islamification of Europe. Your wasting your time persuading me to join your crusade. "

mmm.... DENIAL is a bitch !

Now you excuse is calling it a crusade..lol... Seems to me the fundamentalist here is YOU !!

Facts don't matter to Fanatics like you!

Your anti Trump hysteria and mania is turning you into a nitwit !

It seems you really cant read ! And refuse to accept that this shit has been going on for years , and its escalating !

The reason its under reported is due to censorship !

Ever heard of Swedish police code 291 ?

This Vid is done by a muslim !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15gDRLkYvbU

Here is another

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9MjN6fh1z0

Not that it matters to you, Your opinion

Trumps.... lol.... facts ! (pun intended)

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By *oi_Lucy OP   Couple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Does it involve some sort of anglo saxon apocalypse were our children are all wearing the veil and hijab and a muslim caliphate in Europe . Yep had the email filed it under the end is nigh.

Bobbangs !

You are deflecting the issue , either you cant read or are mentally retarded !

You are Everything I suspected you were in my posts and more !

You still refuse to face the facts and reply to my questions !

You know well this thread is about Sweden , not the UK !

So stop being a coward !

Man up ... Reply Tony my guess is that some disaffected young kids heard about trumps speech and decided to burn up some cars and have some trouble.I cant find a fuck to give over this its standard saturday night shit. I just dont buy into your dysfunctional view of sweden and fear of the islamification of Europe. Your wasting your time persuading me to join your crusade.

mmm.... DENIAL is a bitch !

Now you excuse is calling it a crusade..lol... Seems to me the fundamentalist here is YOU !!

Facts don't matter to Fanatics like you!

...

"

Just a point to wonder... can you really call someone who is saying they don't care about something or don't want to drawn into your cause a 'fanatic'?

I mean definition of a fanatic:

"a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause."

Similarly a fundamentalist:

"a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture in a religion."

I've lost track now of who was quoting bible verses or if it was in this thread or another... but it seems a more fitting description of whomever it was that posted that great long post of fire and brimstone that would have been better suited to a loud hailer, some leaflets and a shopping centre on a weekend.

-Matt

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Does it involve some sort of anglo saxon apocalypse were our children are all wearing the veil and hijab and a muslim caliphate in Europe . Yep had the email filed it under the end is nigh.

Bobbangs !

You are deflecting the issue , either you cant read or are mentally retarded !

You are Everything I suspected you were in my posts and more !

You still refuse to face the facts and reply to my questions !

You know well this thread is about Sweden , not the UK !

So stop being a coward !

Man up ... Reply Tony my guess is that some disaffected young kids heard about trumps speech and decided to burn up some cars and have some trouble.I cant find a fuck to give over this its standard saturday night shit. I just dont buy into your dysfunctional view of sweden and fear of the islamification of Europe. Your wasting your time persuading me to join your crusade.

mmm.... DENIAL is a bitch !

Now you excuse is calling it a crusade..lol... Seems to me the fundamentalist here is YOU !!

Facts don't matter to Fanatics like you!

...

Just a point to wonder... can you really call someone who is saying they don't care about something or don't want to drawn into your cause a 'fanatic'?

I mean definition of a fanatic:

"a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause."

Similarly a fundamentalist:

"a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture in a religion."

I've lost track now of who was quoting bible verses or if it was in this thread or another... but it seems a more fitting description of whomever it was that posted that great long post of fire and brimstone that would have been better suited to a loud hailer, some leaflets and a shopping centre on a weekend.

-Matt"

Hi Matt , before responding to your "point to wonder" which merits reflection indeed , please clarify what you mean, or think is my cause ??

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By *oi_Lucy OP   Couple  over a year ago

Barbados


"Does it involve some sort of anglo saxon apocalypse were our children are all wearing the veil and hijab and a muslim caliphate in Europe . Yep had the email filed it under the end is nigh.

Bobbangs !

You are deflecting the issue , either you cant read or are mentally retarded !

You are Everything I suspected you were in my posts and more !

You still refuse to face the facts and reply to my questions !

You know well this thread is about Sweden , not the UK !

So stop being a coward !

Man up ... Reply Tony my guess is that some disaffected young kids heard about trumps speech and decided to burn up some cars and have some trouble.I cant find a fuck to give over this its standard saturday night shit. I just dont buy into your dysfunctional view of sweden and fear of the islamification of Europe. Your wasting your time persuading me to join your crusade.

mmm.... DENIAL is a bitch !

Now you excuse is calling it a crusade..lol... Seems to me the fundamentalist here is YOU !!

Facts don't matter to Fanatics like you!

...

Just a point to wonder... can you really call someone who is saying they don't care about something or don't want to drawn into your cause a 'fanatic'?

I mean definition of a fanatic:

"a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause."

Similarly a fundamentalist:

"a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture in a religion."

I've lost track now of who was quoting bible verses or if it was in this thread or another... but it seems a more fitting description of whomever it was that posted that great long post of fire and brimstone that would have been better suited to a loud hailer, some leaflets and a shopping centre on a weekend.

-Matt

Hi Matt , before responding to your "point to wonder" which merits reflection indeed , please clarify what you mean, or think is my cause ?? "

I've no idea what your cause is. You were the one calling Bob a fanatic. My comment was the definition of a fanatic is as above... by definition, how can someone saying they don't believe or care about what you are saying be a fanatic?

-Matt

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By *onyxptMan  over a year ago

st neots, living in Albufeira-Algarve-Portugal


"Does it involve some sort of anglo saxon apocalypse were our children are all wearing the veil and hijab and a muslim caliphate in Europe . Yep had the email filed it under the end is nigh.

Bobbangs !

You are deflecting the issue , either you cant read or are mentally retarded !

You are Everything I suspected you were in my posts and more !

You still refuse to face the facts and reply to my questions !

You know well this thread is about Sweden , not the UK !

So stop being a coward !

Man up ... Reply Tony my guess is that some disaffected young kids heard about trumps speech and decided to burn up some cars and have some trouble.I cant find a fuck to give over this its standard saturday night shit. I just dont buy into your dysfunctional view of sweden and fear of the islamification of Europe. Your wasting your time persuading me to join your crusade.

mmm.... DENIAL is a bitch !

Now you excuse is calling it a crusade..lol... Seems to me the fundamentalist here is YOU !!

Facts don't matter to Fanatics like you!

...

Just a point to wonder... can you really call someone who is saying they don't care about something or don't want to drawn into your cause a 'fanatic'?

I mean definition of a fanatic:

"a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause."

Similarly a fundamentalist:

"a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture in a religion."

I've lost track now of who was quoting bible verses or if it was in this thread or another... but it seems a more fitting description of whomever it was that posted that great long post of fire and brimstone that would have been better suited to a loud hailer, some leaflets and a shopping centre on a weekend.

-Matt

Hi Matt , before responding to your "point to wonder" which merits reflection indeed , please clarify what you mean, or think is my cause ??

I've no idea what your cause is. You were the one calling Bob a fanatic. My comment was the definition of a fanatic is as above... by definition, how can someone saying they don't believe or care about what you are saying be a fanatic?

-Matt"

The definition of "Fanatic" is applicable in a broader sense then you describe , but what do you call someone , who despite evidence , continues to defend the actions of people who assault

And destroy private property , just because they are pissed of because the cops nicked a mate of theirs for drug trafficking ! Worse HE tries to pass the idea that the whole event was the result of Trumps statements !

This is a self confessed hooligan that admits to in his youth with pals of his , burning cars , and assaulting people HE deemed as racists !

Now I suppose he identifies himself with them...As the saying goes " it takes one to know one"

DO YOU support and defend that ?

He is the worse type of fanatic , bigot and worse, an agitator !

If he doesn't care about it , as you say , then why does he insist on defending the un defence sable ?

Why does he provoke discussion , question people´s hands on experience , then refuse to reply to issues he posed , hiding cowardly, behind deflections, and pretending not to care ?

Maybe you are right.... its not Fanatical , its criminal and stupid !

My cause ? I have none , I just hate to see ignorance in action!

I repeat; Denial is a bitch !

And he acts like one....

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