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...whist everone chases their tails over Brexit and/or Trump, the following are gathering dust in the governmental Inbox.
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* Military spending
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO
* Immigration from non-EU countries
* Immigrant assimilation
* NHS privitisation
* NHS funding
* Social care funding
* Mental health funding
* Legal aid's gone
* Tax evasion
* Offshore banking
* National debt
* Economic stimulus
* Insufficent banking regulation
* Corporate tax
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax
* Infrastructure development
* What to do with the North
* Skills gaps
* Youth unemployment
* 0-hour contracts
* Bedroom Tax
* Universal Credit
* Pensioners as a protected species
* Housing and house prices (duh!)
* Nuclear energy/energy gap
* Government surveillance
* House of Lords reform (remember that?)
* Electoral reform
* Campaign finance
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding
* Tuition fees for university students
* Prison reform
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out)
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good.
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over a year ago
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"...whist everone chases their tails over Brexit and/or Trump, the following are gathering dust in the governmental Inbox.
.
* Military spending
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO
* Immigration from non-EU countries
* Immigrant assimilation
* NHS privitisation
* NHS funding
* Social care funding
* Mental health funding
* Legal aid's gone
* Tax evasion
* Offshore banking
* National debt
* Economic stimulus
* Insufficent banking regulation
* Corporate tax
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax
* Infrastructure development
* What to do with the North
* Skills gaps
* Youth unemployment
* 0-hour contracts
* Bedroom Tax
* Universal Credit
* Pensioners as a protected species
* Housing and house prices (duh!)
* Nuclear energy/energy gap
* Government surveillance
* House of Lords reform (remember that?)
* Electoral reform
* Campaign finance
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding
* Tuition fees for university students
* Prison reform
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out)
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good.
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Did I miss anything?" I think you should go for prime minister! |
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over a year ago
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"Yes and UK have to pay eu for 7 more years and also the £21billion they owe.
I think that might come under the 'brexit' bit OP mentioned in the opening. " Yes I reckon so too, the brexit camp didnt have a good plan there. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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Indeed... it's quite depressing isn't it... whilst the government is spinning it's wheels trying to work out how to get out of the shit-hole it got itself into with Brexit, everything else that it should be doing is not being done.
And on both sides of the Atlantic look at all the crap being snuck in under the radar whilst we are distracted. IP Bill, DE Bill, dismantling of Frank Dodd act etc...
-Matt |
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"And yet 335,000 came to live here last year so it cant be that bad"
I agree, it probably isn't that bad compared to a lot of other places, especially outside of Europe and North America. But, BREXIT and Trump aside, I don't think we should be over complacent about the fact it's better here than most of Africa, the Middle and Near East, or large parts of Asia. |
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"Indeed... it's quite depressing isn't it... whilst the government is spinning it's wheels trying to work out how to get out of the shit-hole it got itself into with Brexit, everything else that it should be doing is not being done.
And on both sides of the Atlantic look at all the crap being snuck in under the radar whilst we are distracted. IP Bill, DE Bill, dismantling of Frank Dodd act etc...
-Matt"
I don't think that list of problems just appeared post-referendum though did it? |
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Did I miss anything?
Lettuce shortage.
Commercialisation of Valentines Day.
But pretty comprehensive apart from those two howlers."
You forgot the four horsemen of the apocalypse and plagues of locusts sweeping the land. |
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"And yet 335,000 came to live here last year so it cant be that bad
I agree, it probably isn't that bad compared to a lot of other places, especially outside of Europe and North America. But, BREXIT and Trump aside, I don't think we should be over complacent about the fact it's better here than most of Africa, the Middle and Near East, or large parts of Asia."
Definitely - but personally I think Brexit poses a greater challenge to international order than Trump does. |
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Did I miss anything?
Lettuce shortage.
Commercialisation of Valentines Day.
But pretty comprehensive apart from those two howlers.
You forgot the four horsemen of the apocalypse and plagues of locusts sweeping the land. "
That's no way to describe Boris Johnson, Michael Gove, David Davis and Jacob Rees-Mogg
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"And yet 335,000 came to live here last year so it cant be that bad
I agree, it probably isn't that bad compared to a lot of other places, especially outside of Europe and North America. But, BREXIT and Trump aside, I don't think we should be over complacent about the fact it's better here than most of Africa, the Middle and Near East, or large parts of Asia.
Definitely - but personally I think Brexit poses a greater challenge to international order than Trump does."
I'm a lot more optimistic now about the future of our country now we are leaving the EU. If the country had voted Remain then we really would have been fucked. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
Barbados |
"Indeed... it's quite depressing isn't it... whilst the government is spinning it's wheels trying to work out how to get out of the shit-hole it got itself into with Brexit, everything else that it should be doing is not being done.
And on both sides of the Atlantic look at all the crap being snuck in under the radar whilst we are distracted. IP Bill, DE Bill, dismantling of Frank Dodd act etc...
-Matt
I don't think that list of problems just appeared post-referendum though did it?"
No, nor did I claim they did. All I am saying is the Brexit process is draining time and energy from those issues. And it has caused a lot of them to be swept under the carpet whilst the govt deals with the clusterfuck of Brexit.
-Matt |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"OK, can you number the list, so we can solve them in order. Luckily there are less then 175 problems, so we should be fine to do it in this thread."
FFS... at least let me get a coffee first
-Matt |
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"Indeed... it's quite depressing isn't it... whilst the government is spinning it's wheels trying to work out how to get out of the shit-hole it got itself into with Brexit, everything else that it should be doing is not being done.
And on both sides of the Atlantic look at all the crap being snuck in under the radar whilst we are distracted. IP Bill, DE Bill, dismantling of Frank Dodd act etc...
-Matt
I don't think that list of problems just appeared post-referendum though did it?
No, nor did I claim they did. All I am saying is the Brexit process is draining time and energy from those issues. And it has caused a lot of them to be swept under the carpet whilst the govt deals with the clusterfuck of Brexit.
-Matt"
OK, luckily we have 650 highly skilled and capable MPs who will be on top of it all right now. |
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"Indeed... it's quite depressing isn't it... whilst the government is spinning it's wheels trying to work out how to get out of the shit-hole it got itself into with Brexit, everything else that it should be doing is not being done.
And on both sides of the Atlantic look at all the crap being snuck in under the radar whilst we are distracted. IP Bill, DE Bill, dismantling of Frank Dodd act etc...
-Matt
I don't think that list of problems just appeared post-referendum though did it?
No, nor did I claim they did. All I am saying is the Brexit process is draining time and energy from those issues. And it has caused a lot of them to be swept under the carpet whilst the govt deals with the clusterfuck of Brexit.
-Matt
OK, luckily we have 650 highly skilled and capable MPs who will be on top of it all right now." I spat out my coffee when you used the words "skilled" and "capable" in a sentence about our MPs. |
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* Military spending. Yes the better than expected growth caused a slight dip in the 2%
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO. Above answer.
* Immigration from non-EU countries. Far too high.
* Immigrant assimilation. Non existant.
* NHS privitisation. Yes not gone far enough.
* NHS funding. About right but far too much waste and PFI.
* Social care funding. Ditto
* Mental health funding. Ditto
* Legal aid's gone. Yes far too much of it being chucked at chasing old soldiers for dubious reasons.
* Tax evasion. Welcome to globalisation
* Offshore banking. The city of London (and the exchequer) does quite well out of that
* National debt. Cut spending, raise taxes. Take your pick.
* Economic stimulus. QE must have passed you by.
* Insufficent banking regulation. Yes fine let's regulate (and relocate) all the investment banks to Singapore. That little tax loss will really help the NHS
* Corporate tax. Yes, far too high
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax. Both should be abolished.
* Infrastructure development. While there are one or two areas that could be better the UK does pretty well overall.
* What to do with the North. Why should anyone want to "DO" anything with it. Leave it alone and it will get on just fine.
* Skills gaps. Yep far too many media studies graduates and not enough plumbers
* Youth unemployment. See above.
* 0-hour contracts. As long as people get paid for when they work and can pick up benefit when they don't, I don't really see a problem. The self employed have been on similar since the dawn of time.
* Bedroom Tax. No such thing.
* Universal Credit. On that one I'll pass. Not really my subject.
* Pensioners as a protected species. And quite rightly so.
* Housing and house prices (duh!) Supply and demand. 300,000 plus added to the population every year have to live somewhere.
* Nuclear energy/energy gap. Yes. Successive governments have spent far too much time tilting at useless windmills. They will only wake up when the lights go out and the snowflakes can't log on to twitter.
* Government surveillance. Sad but welcome to the modern world and Jihad.
* House of Lords reform (remember that?) I'll tell you after the Brexit vote.
* Electoral reform. Yes PR would have given UKIP about 100 seats at the last GE.
* Campaign finance. Labour party going skint eh?
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding. We need a lot more Grammar schools. People moan about how the British education system is so far behind Germany. Yet when anyone mentions a two tier system they chuck the toys out of the pram. Guess what? The German system is FOUR tier.
* Tuition fees for university students. No different from Germany and many other countries, and I would never support free university for a Mickey Mouse degree while there is a skills gap in the real workplace.
* Prison reform. Yes we need more prisons
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out) If they ever get the truth from the self serving scientists who have got serious form for (at best) exaggeration.
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good. Agreed. Anyone who thinks the UK is bad should try living in Spain for a few years.
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Did I miss anything? Not really. You could have mentioned compensation for lottery winners but I'll let you off this time. |
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"And yet 335,000 came to live here last year so it cant be that bad
I agree, it probably isn't that bad compared to a lot of other places, especially outside of Europe and North America. But, BREXIT and Trump aside, I don't think we should be over complacent about the fact it's better here than most of Africa, the Middle and Near East, or large parts of Asia.
Definitely - but personally I think Brexit poses a greater challenge to international order than Trump does.
I'm a lot more optimistic now about the future of our country now we are leaving the EU. If the country had voted Remain then we really would have been fucked. "
Shh!
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* Military spending. Yes the better than expected growth caused a slight dip in the 2%
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO. Above answer.
* Immigration from non-EU countries. Far too high.
* Immigrant assimilation. Non existant.
* NHS privitisation. Yes not gone far enough.
* NHS funding. About right but far too much waste and PFI.
* Social care funding. Ditto
* Mental health funding. Ditto
* Legal aid's gone. Yes far too much of it being chucked at chasing old soldiers for dubious reasons.
* Tax evasion. Welcome to globalisation
* Offshore banking. The city of London (and the exchequer) does quite well out of that
* National debt. Cut spending, raise taxes. Take your pick.
* Economic stimulus. QE must have passed you by.
* Insufficent banking regulation. Yes fine let's regulate (and relocate) all the investment banks to Singapore. That little tax loss will really help the NHS
* Corporate tax. Yes, far too high
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax. Both should be abolished.
* Infrastructure development. While there are one or two areas that could be better the UK does pretty well overall.
* What to do with the North. Why should anyone want to "DO" anything with it. Leave it alone and it will get on just fine.
* Skills gaps. Yep far too many media studies graduates and not enough plumbers
* Youth unemployment. See above.
* 0-hour contracts. As long as people get paid for when they work and can pick up benefit when they don't, I don't really see a problem. The self employed have been on similar since the dawn of time.
* Bedroom Tax. No such thing.
* Universal Credit. On that one I'll pass. Not really my subject.
* Pensioners as a protected species. And quite rightly so.
* Housing and house prices (duh!) Supply and demand. 300,000 plus added to the population every year have to live somewhere.
* Nuclear energy/energy gap. Yes. Successive governments have spent far too much time tilting at useless windmills. They will only wake up when the lights go out and the snowflakes can't log on to twitter.
* Government surveillance. Sad but welcome to the modern world and Jihad.
* House of Lords reform (remember that?) I'll tell you after the Brexit vote.
* Electoral reform. Yes PR would have given UKIP about 100 seats at the last GE.
* Campaign finance. Labour party going skint eh?
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding. We need a lot more Grammar schools. People moan about how the British education system is so far behind Germany. Yet when anyone mentions a two tier system they chuck the toys out of the pram. Guess what? The German system is FOUR tier.
* Tuition fees for university students. No different from Germany and many other countries, and I would never support free university for a Mickey Mouse degree while there is a skills gap in the real workplace.
* Prison reform. Yes we need more prisons
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out) If they ever get the truth from the self serving scientists who have got serious form for (at best) exaggeration.
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good. Agreed. Anyone who thinks the UK is bad should try living in Spain for a few years.
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Did I miss anything? Not really. You could have mentioned compensation for lottery winners but I'll let you off this time. "
We disagree substantially on many of these issues.
I'm not sure it's good enough to say that all answers for the public good come via free market capitalism or via cutting government spending.
Hmmm. |
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* Military spending. Yes the better than expected growth caused a slight dip in the 2%
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO. Above answer.
* Immigration from non-EU countries. Far too high.
* Immigrant assimilation. Non existant.
* NHS privitisation. Yes not gone far enough.
* NHS funding. About right but far too much waste and PFI.
* Social care funding. Ditto
* Mental health funding. Ditto
* Legal aid's gone. Yes far too much of it being chucked at chasing old soldiers for dubious reasons.
* Tax evasion. Welcome to globalisation
* Offshore banking. The city of London (and the exchequer) does quite well out of that
* National debt. Cut spending, raise taxes. Take your pick.
* Economic stimulus. QE must have passed you by.
* Insufficent banking regulation. Yes fine let's regulate (and relocate) all the investment banks to Singapore. That little tax loss will really help the NHS
* Corporate tax. Yes, far too high
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax. Both should be abolished.
* Infrastructure development. While there are one or two areas that could be better the UK does pretty well overall.
* What to do with the North. Why should anyone want to "DO" anything with it. Leave it alone and it will get on just fine.
* Skills gaps. Yep far too many media studies graduates and not enough plumbers
* Youth unemployment. See above.
* 0-hour contracts. As long as people get paid for when they work and can pick up benefit when they don't, I don't really see a problem. The self employed have been on similar since the dawn of time.
* Bedroom Tax. No such thing.
* Universal Credit. On that one I'll pass. Not really my subject.
* Pensioners as a protected species. And quite rightly so.
* Housing and house prices (duh!) Supply and demand. 300,000 plus added to the population every year have to live somewhere.
* Nuclear energy/energy gap. Yes. Successive governments have spent far too much time tilting at useless windmills. They will only wake up when the lights go out and the snowflakes can't log on to twitter.
* Government surveillance. Sad but welcome to the modern world and Jihad.
* House of Lords reform (remember that?) I'll tell you after the Brexit vote.
* Electoral reform. Yes PR would have given UKIP about 100 seats at the last GE.
* Campaign finance. Labour party going skint eh?
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding. We need a lot more Grammar schools. People moan about how the British education system is so far behind Germany. Yet when anyone mentions a two tier system they chuck the toys out of the pram. Guess what? The German system is FOUR tier.
* Tuition fees for university students. No different from Germany and many other countries, and I would never support free university for a Mickey Mouse degree while there is a skills gap in the real workplace.
* Prison reform. Yes we need more prisons
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out) If they ever get the truth from the self serving scientists who have got serious form for (at best) exaggeration.
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good. Agreed. Anyone who thinks the UK is bad should try living in Spain for a few years.
.
Did I miss anything? Not really. You could have mentioned compensation for lottery winners but I'll let you off this time.
We disagree substantially on many of these issues.
I'm not sure it's good enough to say that all answers for the public good come via free market capitalism or via cutting government spending.
Hmmm."
I'm not actually saying that, but just chucking money at everything isn't the answer either.
Some of my answers above are strongly held beliefs. Others are just a poke in the eye to the left.
I'll let you make your own mind up as to which are which. |
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"Some of my answers above are strongly held beliefs. Others are just a poke in the eye to the left.
I'll let you make your own mind up as to which are which. "
Wot no synthesis via reasoned debate (ie the Socratic method)?
I'm not here for the point scoring...
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* Military spending. Yes the better than expected growth caused a slight dip in the 2%
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO. Above answer.
* Immigration from non-EU countries. Far too high.
* Immigrant assimilation. Non existant.
* NHS privitisation. Yes not gone far enough.
* NHS funding. About right but far too much waste and PFI.
* Social care funding. Ditto
* Mental health funding. Ditto
* Legal aid's gone. Yes far too much of it being chucked at chasing old soldiers for dubious reasons.
* Tax evasion. Welcome to globalisation
* Offshore banking. The city of London (and the exchequer) does quite well out of that
* National debt. Cut spending, raise taxes. Take your pick.
* Economic stimulus. QE must have passed you by.
* Insufficent banking regulation. Yes fine let's regulate (and relocate) all the investment banks to Singapore. That little tax loss will really help the NHS
* Corporate tax. Yes, far too high
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax. Both should be abolished.
* Infrastructure development. While there are one or two areas that could be better the UK does pretty well overall.
* What to do with the North. Why should anyone want to "DO" anything with it. Leave it alone and it will get on just fine.
* Skills gaps. Yep far too many media studies graduates and not enough plumbers
* Youth unemployment. See above.
* 0-hour contracts. As long as people get paid for when they work and can pick up benefit when they don't, I don't really see a problem. The self employed have been on similar since the dawn of time.
* Bedroom Tax. No such thing.
* Universal Credit. On that one I'll pass. Not really my subject.
* Pensioners as a protected species. And quite rightly so.
* Housing and house prices (duh!) Supply and demand. 300,000 plus added to the population every year have to live somewhere.
* Nuclear energy/energy gap. Yes. Successive governments have spent far too much time tilting at useless windmills. They will only wake up when the lights go out and the snowflakes can't log on to twitter.
* Government surveillance. Sad but welcome to the modern world and Jihad.
* House of Lords reform (remember that?) I'll tell you after the Brexit vote.
* Electoral reform. Yes PR would have given UKIP about 100 seats at the last GE.
* Campaign finance. Labour party going skint eh?
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding. We need a lot more Grammar schools. People moan about how the British education system is so far behind Germany. Yet when anyone mentions a two tier system they chuck the toys out of the pram. Guess what? The German system is FOUR tier.
* Tuition fees for university students. No different from Germany and many other countries, and I would never support free university for a Mickey Mouse degree while there is a skills gap in the real workplace.
* Prison reform. Yes we need more prisons
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out) If they ever get the truth from the self serving scientists who have got serious form for (at best) exaggeration.
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good. Agreed. Anyone who thinks the UK is bad should try living in Spain for a few years.
.
Did I miss anything? Not really. You could have mentioned compensation for lottery winners but I'll let you off this time.
We disagree substantially on many of these issues.
I'm not sure it's good enough to say that all answers for the public good come via free market capitalism or via cutting government spending.
Hmmm.
I'm not actually saying that, but just chucking money at everything isn't the answer either.
Some of my answers above are strongly held beliefs. Others are just a poke in the eye to the left.
I'll let you make your own mind up as to which are which. "
Your views are liberal it seems. |
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"...whist everone chases their tails over Brexit and/or Trump, the following are gathering dust in the governmental Inbox.
.
* Military spending
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO
* Immigration from non-EU countries
* Immigrant assimilation
* NHS privitisation
* NHS funding
* Social care funding
* Mental health funding
* Legal aid's gone
* Tax evasion
* Offshore banking
* National debt
* Economic stimulus
* Insufficent banking regulation
* Corporate tax
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax
* Infrastructure development
* What to do with the North
* Skills gaps
* Youth unemployment
* 0-hour contracts
* Bedroom Tax
* Universal Credit
* Pensioners as a protected species
* Housing and house prices (duh!)
* Nuclear energy/energy gap
* Government surveillance
* House of Lords reform (remember that?)
* Electoral reform
* Campaign finance
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding
* Tuition fees for university students
* Prison reform
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out)
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good.
.
Did I miss anything?"
Those are what we know. I wonder if the expense scandal hasn't been cleared yet. Or tax evasions from MPs.
Brexit and Trump are drowning the real issues out. But you're sounding like Corbyn. Stop protesting :p |
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By *mmabluTV/TS
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"...whist everone chases their tails over Brexit and/or Trump, the following are gathering dust in the governmental Inbox.
.
* Military spending
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO
* Immigration from non-EU countries
* Immigrant assimilation
* NHS privitisation
* NHS funding
* Social care funding
* Mental health funding
* Legal aid's gone
* Tax evasion
* Offshore banking
* National debt
* Economic stimulus
* Insufficent banking regulation
* Corporate tax
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax
* Infrastructure development
* What to do with the North
* Skills gaps
* Youth unemployment
* 0-hour contracts
* Bedroom Tax
* Universal Credit
* Pensioners as a protected species
* Housing and house prices (duh!)
* Nuclear energy/energy gap
* Government surveillance
* House of Lords reform (remember that?)
* Electoral reform
* Campaign finance
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding
* Tuition fees for university students
* Prison reform
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out)
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good.
.
Did I miss anything?" Yes your objectivity |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"...whist everone chases their tails over Brexit and/or Trump, the following are gathering dust in the governmental Inbox.
.
* Military spending
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO
* Immigration from non-EU countries
* Immigrant assimilation
* NHS privitisation
* NHS funding
* Social care funding
* Mental health funding
* Legal aid's gone
* Tax evasion
* Offshore banking
* National debt
* Economic stimulus
* Insufficent banking regulation
* Corporate tax
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax
* Infrastructure development
* What to do with the North
* Skills gaps
* Youth unemployment
* 0-hour contracts
* Bedroom Tax
* Universal Credit
* Pensioners as a protected species
* Housing and house prices (duh!)
* Nuclear energy/energy gap
* Government surveillance
* House of Lords reform (remember that?)
* Electoral reform
* Campaign finance
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding
* Tuition fees for university students
* Prison reform
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out)
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good.
.
Did I miss anything?Yes your objectivity"
Isn't that parliament's role as representatives for the country. |
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"...whist everone chases their tails over Brexit and/or Trump, the following are gathering dust in the governmental Inbox.
.
* Military spending
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO
* Immigration from non-EU countries
* Immigrant assimilation
* NHS privitisation
* NHS funding
* Social care funding
* Mental health funding
* Legal aid's gone
* Tax evasion
* Offshore banking
* National debt
* Economic stimulus
* Insufficent banking regulation
* Corporate tax
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax
* Infrastructure development
* What to do with the North
* Skills gaps
* Youth unemployment
* 0-hour contracts
* Bedroom Tax
* Universal Credit
* Pensioners as a protected species
* Housing and house prices (duh!)
* Nuclear energy/energy gap
* Government surveillance
* House of Lords reform (remember that?)
* Electoral reform
* Campaign finance
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding
* Tuition fees for university students
* Prison reform
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out)
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good.
.
Did I miss anything?"
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"Woke up this morning and the country's still fucked." .
Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude to life and not the country?.
If you still think it's just the country have you considered going somewhere else, I've lived all over, I really haven't noticed that much difference except the scenery and pace of life |
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"Woke up this morning and the country's still fucked..
Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude to life and not the country?.
If you still think it's just the country have you considered going somewhere else, I've lived all over, I really haven't noticed that much difference except the scenery and pace of life"
So a bright attitude will solve all the problems listed in the original post?
Good work.
Sunshine.
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"Its not the country that's fucked...
It's you! and me! and everyone else!
In fact its not us its humanity and mammalien life!
In fact the country will get on very well without any of us!
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Not true - that is a very pessimistic attitude. Don't be judging humanity by your standards.
Got kids?
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"So what is to be done?" End democracy and replace it with a meritocratic system.Or have another world war to take our minds of the detail.The last one is an old favourite.
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"So what is to be done?End democracy and replace it with a meritocratic system.Or have another world war to take our minds of the detail.The last one is an old favourite. "
So who decides what is the standard whereon people are judged and awarded power ? |
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"Woke up this morning and the country's still fucked..
Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude to life and not the country?.
If you still think it's just the country have you considered going somewhere else, I've lived all over, I really haven't noticed that much difference except the scenery and pace of life
So a bright attitude will solve all the problems listed in the original post?
Good work.
Sunshine.
" .
I don't know about yourself but I've traveled extensively, there's people like you everywhere in every country, that's not to say your wrong but that you have a very short time in life, make the most out of your day, that's why they call it the present. |
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"Woke up this morning and the country's still fucked..
Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude to life and not the country?.
If you still think it's just the country have you considered going somewhere else, I've lived all over, I really haven't noticed that much difference except the scenery and pace of life
So a bright attitude will solve all the problems listed in the original post?
Good work.
Sunshine.
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I don't know about yourself but I've traveled extensively, there's people like you everywhere in every country, that's not to say your wrong but that you have a very short time in life, make the most out of your day, that's why they call it the present."
"People like me"?
Oooo.
I too have traveled extensively, experienced *really* fucked up countries, grinding poverty. Even seen it and worked with it in this country.
And in my opinion there are a large number of problems building up that are going unaddressed or are being fudged.
Suggestions please |
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"So what is to be done?End democracy and replace it with a meritocratic system.Or have another world war to take our minds of the detail.The last one is an old favourite.
So who decides what is the standard whereon people are judged and awarded power ? "
If you think about it, the most meritocratic example of a recent political leader was John Major.
The rest went to public schools & Oxbridge.
But the question is valid -
Has democracy broken, and is it able to fix the issues I outlined at the top? |
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"Woke up this morning and the country's still fucked..
Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude to life and not the country?.
If you still think it's just the country have you considered going somewhere else, I've lived all over, I really haven't noticed that much difference except the scenery and pace of life
So a bright attitude will solve all the problems listed in the original post?
Good work.
Sunshine.
.
I don't know about yourself but I've traveled extensively, there's people like you everywhere in every country, that's not to say your wrong but that you have a very short time in life, make the most out of your day, that's why they call it the present.
"People like me"?
Oooo.
I too have traveled extensively, experienced *really* fucked up countries, grinding poverty. Even seen it and worked with it in this country.
And in my opinion there are a large number of problems building up that are going unaddressed or are being fudged.
Suggestions please" .
Be the best you can be everyday, everything else sorts it's self out, nothing you've got to say on here today will change anything at all, all your doing is blood letting to ease your conscience, once you've mastered who you are and what your purpose is in this life you'll find you need to moan less and be more contented |
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"So what is to be done?End democracy and replace it with a meritocratic system.Or have another world war to take our minds of the detail.The last one is an old favourite.
So who decides what is the standard whereon people are judged and awarded power ?
If you think about it, the most meritocratic example of a recent political leader was John Major.
The rest went to public schools & Oxbridge.
But the question is valid -
Has democracy broken, and is it able to fix the issues I outlined at the top?" You only have to look at Singapore the only meritocracy we have.They are one of the world's great success stories.They out perform most countries.90% home ownership.Probably the best education system on earth.They did all this from a third world slum in the 1960s to first world country that surpasses most.They believe 3 things caused this change. (MPH) Meritocracy pragmatism and honesty. |
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"So what is to be done?End democracy and replace it with a meritocratic system.Or have another world war to take our minds of the detail.The last one is an old favourite.
So who decides what is the standard whereon people are judged and awarded power ?
If you think about it, the most meritocratic example of a recent political leader was John Major.
The rest went to public schools & Oxbridge.
But the question is valid -
Has democracy broken, and is it able to fix the issues I outlined at the top?You only have to look at Singapore the only meritocracy we have.They are one of the world's great success stories.They out perform most countries.90% home ownership.Probably the best education system on earth.They did all this from a third world slum in the 1960s to first world country that surpasses most.They believe 3 things caused this change. (MPH) Meritocracy pragmatism and honesty. " .. |
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Be the best you can be everyday, everything else sorts it's self out, nothing you've got to say on here today will change anything at all, all your doing is blood letting to ease your conscience, once you've mastered who you are and what your purpose is in this life you'll find you need to moan less and be more contented"
best post ive read in a long time.
great advice. |
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Be the best you can be everyday, everything else sorts it's self out, nothing you've got to say on here today will change anything at all, all your doing is blood letting to ease your conscience, once you've mastered who you are and what your purpose is in this life you'll find you need to moan less and be more contented
best post ive read in a long time.
great advice. "
No, Theresa may comes on here, to help decide what to do. Fact. |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"Woke up this morning and the country's still fucked..
Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude to life and not the country?.
If you still think it's just the country have you considered going somewhere else, I've lived all over, I really haven't noticed that much difference except the scenery and pace of life
So a bright attitude will solve all the problems listed in the original post?
Good work.
Sunshine.
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I don't know about yourself but I've traveled extensively, there's people like you everywhere in every country, that's not to say your wrong but that you have a very short time in life, make the most out of your day, that's why they call it the present.
"People like me"?
Oooo.
I too have traveled extensively, experienced *really* fucked up countries, grinding poverty. Even seen it and worked with it in this country.
And in my opinion there are a large number of problems building up that are going unaddressed or are being fudged.
Suggestions please.
Be the best you can be everyday, everything else sorts it's self out, nothing you've got to say on here today will change anything at all, all your doing is blood letting to ease your conscience, once you've mastered who you are and what your purpose is in this life you'll find you need to moan less and be more contented"
I think the opposite.
That will ensure that nothing changes.
"But first, you've GOT to get mad...." |
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"Woke up this morning and the country's still fucked..
Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude to life and not the country?.
If you still think it's just the country have you considered going somewhere else, I've lived all over, I really haven't noticed that much difference except the scenery and pace of life
So a bright attitude will solve all the problems listed in the original post?
Good work.
Sunshine.
.
I don't know about yourself but I've traveled extensively, there's people like you everywhere in every country, that's not to say your wrong but that you have a very short time in life, make the most out of your day, that's why they call it the present.
"People like me"?
Oooo.
I too have traveled extensively, experienced *really* fucked up countries, grinding poverty. Even seen it and worked with it in this country.
And in my opinion there are a large number of problems building up that are going unaddressed or are being fudged.
Suggestions please.
Be the best you can be everyday, everything else sorts it's self out, nothing you've got to say on here today will change anything at all, all your doing is blood letting to ease your conscience, once you've mastered who you are and what your purpose is in this life you'll find you need to moan less and be more contented
I think the opposite.
That will ensure that nothing changes.
"But first, you've GOT to get mad....""
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"Woke up this morning and the country's still fucked..
Have you considered that maybe it's your attitude to life and not the country?.
If you still think it's just the country have you considered going somewhere else, I've lived all over, I really haven't noticed that much difference except the scenery and pace of life
So a bright attitude will solve all the problems listed in the original post?
Good work.
Sunshine.
.
I don't know about yourself but I've traveled extensively, there's people like you everywhere in every country, that's not to say your wrong but that you have a very short time in life, make the most out of your day, that's why they call it the present.
"People like me"?
Oooo.
I too have traveled extensively, experienced *really* fucked up countries, grinding poverty. Even seen it and worked with it in this country.
And in my opinion there are a large number of problems building up that are going unaddressed or are being fudged.
Suggestions please.
Be the best you can be everyday, everything else sorts it's self out, nothing you've got to say on here today will change anything at all, all your doing is blood letting to ease your conscience, once you've mastered who you are and what your purpose is in this life you'll find you need to moan less and be more contented
I think the opposite.
That will ensure that nothing changes.
"But first, you've GOT to get mad....""
It's odd.
Back in 2008 when we had the banking crisis and it looked like the wheels were gonna come off the international system - runs on banks, queues, riots even - but Gordon Brown save the banks or the world or whatever...
And we ended up paying for it.
Fast forwards 8 years, and here we are. The problems outlined above are still there. Political mediocrity has been the watchword.
And NOW we have Trump/Brexit - here's change - here's the thing I wanted.
Why am I not happier?
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"And yet 335,000 came to live here last year so it cant be that bad
I agree, it probably isn't that bad compared to a lot of other places, especially outside of Europe and North America. But, BREXIT and Trump aside, I don't think we should be over complacent about the fact it's better here than most of Africa, the Middle and Near East, or large parts of Asia.
Definitely - but personally I think Brexit poses a greater challenge to international order than Trump does."
It's a close run thing but at least if the US has got it wrong they can change their mind in 4 years time. |
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"And yet 335,000 came to live here last year so it cant be that bad
I agree, it probably isn't that bad compared to a lot of other places, especially outside of Europe and North America. But, BREXIT and Trump aside, I don't think we should be over complacent about the fact it's better here than most of Africa, the Middle and Near East, or large parts of Asia.
Definitely - but personally I think Brexit poses a greater challenge to international order than Trump does.
I'm a lot more optimistic now about the future of our country now we are leaving the EU. If the country had voted Remain then we really would have been fucked. "
And I'm a lot more pessimistic about the furniture of the UK, Europe and the world now we are leaving the EU. If the country had voted Remain then we really could have started to sort out the real problems both here and in Europe. Now everything is just BREXIT. |
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"So what is to be done?End democracy and replace it with a meritocratic system.Or have another world war to take our minds of the detail.The last one is an old favourite.
So who decides what is the standard whereon people are judged and awarded power ?
If you think about it, the most meritocratic example of a recent political leader was John Major.
The rest went to public schools & Oxbridge.
But the question is valid -
Has democracy broken, and is it able to fix the issues I outlined at the top?"
I think you could add Harrold Wilson, Jim Callahan, Margaret Thatcher and even Teresa May to that list. After all, agree or disagree with what they said or did, they all got the top job on merit and not just because they went to a posh school. |
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I'll tell you why not only this country is fucked but nearly every country is fucked.
Since the 80's banks and bankers have been allowed to do what they like. So they took our money that they were holding for us and used it to buy the companies we worked in. They then used the share they bought with our money to put themselves on the boards of those companies. They then used the control they had of those company boards to appoint more of them as pension fund trustees. They then used the pension funds to take control of bigger companies which they then used to take control of investment funds. Which they then sold the first companies to at knockdown prices. They then raided pension funds and exported jobs to cheap labour markets and foreclosed on mortgages. And at every step not only did they pay themselves obnoxious sums of money but they charged a commission on every deal and paid themselves bonuses for doing this.
Eventually the house of cards came down in 2007/8 and the governments of the world stepped in and used more of our money to bail out the bankers (who are their mates and supporters) and introduced austerity, which is a clever way of transferring all that debt from the wealthy banker who made the debt in the first place to the rest of us. Of course in the process the bankers have been able to make themselves even wealthier!
And our answer: Follow a banker out of the EU and the American answer elect a man who is proud that he never pays taxes or settles court cases!
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"It isn't all the bad OP. I heard that the housing benefits are better than anywhere else in the EU and PC BS is thriving"
I know. Right wing liberals are really pushing the PC crap forward. And the left wing conservatives has messed up with the benefits. Bring on the living wage. |
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"It isn't all the bad OP. I heard that the housing benefits are better than anywhere else in the EU and PC BS is thriving"
Yep...
UKIP's housing spokesman and man of the people and landlord Andrew Charalambous was the 10th biggest recipient of housing benefit at £826,395 last year.
Andrew would definitely agree with you, and is looking forward to receiving even more in benefit payments this year. |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"It isn't all the bad OP. I heard that the housing benefits are better than anywhere else in the EU and PC BS is thriving
Yep...
UKIP's housing spokesman and man of the people and landlord Andrew Charalambous was the 10th biggest recipient of housing benefit at £826,395 last year.
Andrew would definitely agree with you, and is looking forward to receiving even more in benefit payments this year. "
I guess they could pay him rent instead of parting with their housing benefit |
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By *imiUKMan
over a year ago
Hereford |
"It isn't all the bad OP. I heard that the housing benefits are better than anywhere else in the EU and PC BS is thriving
Yep...
UKIP's housing spokesman and man of the people and landlord Andrew Charalambous was the 10th biggest recipient of housing benefit at £826,395 last year.
Andrew would definitely agree with you, and is looking forward to receiving even more in benefit payments this year.
I guess they could pay him rent instead of parting with their housing benefit"
If they could afford to pay rent, they wouldn't be entitled to housing benefit.... |
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
Wembley |
"It isn't all the bad OP. I heard that the housing benefits are better than anywhere else in the EU and PC BS is thriving
Yep...
UKIP's housing spokesman and man of the people and landlord Andrew Charalambous was the 10th biggest recipient of housing benefit at £826,395 last year.
Andrew would definitely agree with you, and is looking forward to receiving even more in benefit payments this year.
I guess they could pay him rent instead of parting with their housing benefit
If they could afford to pay rent, they wouldn't be entitled to housing benefit...."
It was tongue-in-cheek to the earlier comment |
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"So what is to be done?End democracy and replace it with a meritocratic system.Or have another world war to take our minds of the detail.The last one is an old favourite.
So who decides what is the standard whereon people are judged and awarded power ?
If you think about it, the most meritocratic example of a recent political leader was John Major.
The rest went to public schools & Oxbridge.
But the question is valid -
Has democracy broken, and is it able to fix the issues I outlined at the top?
I think you could add Harrold Wilson, Jim Callahan, Margaret Thatcher and even Teresa May to that list. After all, agree or disagree with what they said or did, they all got the top job on merit and not just because they went to a posh school."
Sure, they got there by ability but:
* Wilson went to grammar school then Oxford
* Thatcher went to Oxford and married a millionaire
* Callaghan's career was slightly more 'meritocratic' but only because couldn't afford the fees to Oxford (he got a place) and so entered the civil service.
Theresa May (who went to Oxford) didn't 'earn' the office of PM by ability, she was the least hated, least divisive candidate. And she ain't that good. |
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"Anyway, wherever they come from, can the political elite fix all this shit?" They just dont have the skill set to solve all these problems.We have a room full of people with degrees in law and politics.Many from the political classes who were born to rule.You can surround youself with as many advisors as needed.However that doesnt mean they understand the problem or even have the political will.We need technocrats and meritocrats and a hand full of bureaucrats.Right now its a room full of lawyers born to rule as their ancestors did.
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"It isn't all the bad OP. I heard that the housing benefits are better than anywhere else in the EU and PC BS is thriving
Yep...
UKIP's housing spokesman and man of the people and landlord Andrew Charalambous was the 10th biggest recipient of housing benefit at £826,395 last year.
Andrew would definitely agree with you, and is looking forward to receiving even more in benefit payments this year.
I guess they could pay him rent instead of parting with their housing benefit"
The thing is, the government are subsiding the likes of him and inflating rents ... local rents here are £1300 a month. Many cannot afford that without housing benefits, even on a professional wage. What so you suggest for them, then? Housing shortage means the rent 'benefit' goes straight to the landlord ... so who is actually making money out of the system? |
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"Anyway, wherever they come from, can the political elite fix all this shit?"
They already have fixed it...
Didn't you notice that they have got rid of the majority of grammar schools and are making tertiary education and getting started on a high rolling career through internships (giving labour for free for a year or two) so expensive that only the children of the (wealthy) elite can afford to do it.
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over a year ago
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Hey Joe, look, over here... pretty glittery thing, got naked bits and probably cake too...
Well the usual distractions failed, so had to try something else!
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"It isn't all the bad OP. I heard that the housing benefits are better than anywhere else in the EU and PC BS is thriving
Yep...
UKIP's housing spokesman and man of the people and landlord Andrew Charalambous was the 10th biggest recipient of housing benefit at £826,395 last year.
Andrew would definitely agree with you, and is looking forward to receiving even more in benefit payments this year.
I guess they could pay him rent instead of parting with their housing benefit
The thing is, the government are subsiding the likes of him and inflating rents ... local rents here are £1300 a month. Many cannot afford that without housing benefits, even on a professional wage. What so you suggest for them, then? Housing shortage means the rent 'benefit' goes straight to the landlord ... so who is actually making money out of the system?"
Lot of people can pay rent. Others own their homes
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"It isn't all the bad OP. I heard that the housing benefits are better than anywhere else in the EU and PC BS is thriving
Yep...
UKIP's housing spokesman and man of the people and landlord Andrew Charalambous was the 10th biggest recipient of housing benefit at £826,395 last year.
Andrew would definitely agree with you, and is looking forward to receiving even more in benefit payments this year.
I guess they could pay him rent instead of parting with their housing benefit
The thing is, the government are subsiding the likes of him and inflating rents ... local rents here are £1300 a month. Many cannot afford that without housing benefits, even on a professional wage. What so you suggest for them, then? Housing shortage means the rent 'benefit' goes straight to the landlord ... so who is actually making money out of the system?
Lot of people can pay rent. Others own their homes
I don't know who you are talking about or what you expect me to say"
I think consider that not all people can afford to pay rent, and many have children too, for whatever reason, maybe they have just fallen on hard times. People on housing benefit aren't benefitting as such, it is the landlords who are raking it in. Many never see the money as it is paid straight to the landlord. Not everyone has the resources to buy their own homes either, especially in London in this day and age .... some thought for hard working people living on the breadline. I encounter these people every day, trying to do their best, working three or four jobs .... I don't want to beat anyone with a stick or make a joke out of their situation at their expense. |
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"Anyway, wherever they come from, can the political elite fix all this shit?
They already have fixed it...
Didn't you notice that they have got rid of the majority of grammar schools and are making tertiary education and getting started on a high rolling career through internships (giving labour for free for a year or two) so expensive that only the children of the (wealthy) elite can afford to do it.
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But getting rid of Grammar schools has always been a left wing Labour policy.
Most Tories would have them back in a flash. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"This country's fucked
ehhh no, its not
only some who live in it
If it's not fucked, why Brexit?"
why make do with "great"
when you can have
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By *osieWoman
over a year ago
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"It isn't all the bad OP. I heard that the housing benefits are better than anywhere else in the EU and PC BS is thriving
Yep...
UKIP's housing spokesman and man of the people and landlord Andrew Charalambous was the 10th biggest recipient of housing benefit at £826,395 last year.
Andrew would definitely agree with you, and is looking forward to receiving even more in benefit payments this year.
I guess they could pay him rent instead of parting with their housing benefit
The thing is, the government are subsiding the likes of him and inflating rents ... local rents here are £1300 a month. Many cannot afford that without housing benefits, even on a professional wage. What so you suggest for them, then? Housing shortage means the rent 'benefit' goes straight to the landlord ... so who is actually making money out of the system?
Lot of people can pay rent. Others own their homes
I don't know who you are talking about or what you expect me to say
I think consider that not all people can afford to pay rent, and many have children too, for whatever reason, maybe they have just fallen on hard times. People on housing benefit aren't benefitting as such, it is the landlords who are raking it in. Many never see the money as it is paid straight to the landlord. Not everyone has the resources to buy their own homes either, especially in London in this day and age .... some thought for hard working people living on the breadline. I encounter these people every day, trying to do their best, working three or four jobs .... I don't want to beat anyone with a stick or make a joke out of their situation at their expense."
But they *are* benefiting. Otherwise they'd be homeless and sleeping in doorways
I don't get your point. Is it, lets stop housing benefits? Is it, landlords should let people stay in their properties for free? What is the point you are trying to make? |
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"...whist everone chases their tails over Brexit and/or Trump, the following are gathering dust in the governmental Inbox.
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* Military spending
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO
* Immigration from non-EU countries
* Immigrant assimilation
* NHS privitisation
* NHS funding
* Social care funding
* Mental health funding
* Legal aid's gone
* Tax evasion
* Offshore banking
* National debt
* Economic stimulus
* Insufficent banking regulation
* Corporate tax
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax
* Infrastructure development
* What to do with the North
* Skills gaps
* Youth unemployment
* 0-hour contracts
* Bedroom Tax
* Universal Credit
* Pensioners as a protected species
* Housing and house prices (duh!)
* Nuclear energy/energy gap
* Government surveillance
* House of Lords reform (remember that?)
* Electoral reform
* Campaign finance
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding
* Tuition fees for university students
* Prison reform
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out)
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good.
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Did I miss anything?"
Yes...less chocolate these days in a Terry's Chocolate Orange. And where are the government resources to deal with THAT...!!! It's a disgrace |
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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago
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"...whist everone chases their tails over Brexit and/or Trump, the following are gathering dust in the governmental Inbox.
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* Military spending
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO
* Immigration from non-EU countries
* Immigrant assimilation
* NHS privitisation
* NHS funding
* Social care funding
* Mental health funding
* Legal aid's gone
* Tax evasion
* Offshore banking
* National debt
* Economic stimulus
* Insufficent banking regulation
* Corporate tax
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax
* Infrastructure development
* What to do with the North
* Skills gaps
* Youth unemployment
* 0-hour contracts
* Bedroom Tax
* Universal Credit
* Pensioners as a protected species
* Housing and house prices (duh!)
* Nuclear energy/energy gap
* Government surveillance
* House of Lords reform (remember that?)
* Electoral reform
* Campaign finance
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding
* Tuition fees for university students
* Prison reform
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out)
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good.
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Did I miss anything?"
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Could be worse
In fact,for most,it is.
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"...whist everone chases their tails over Brexit and/or Trump, the following are gathering dust in the governmental Inbox.
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* Military spending
* UK's presence abroad & as part of the UN and NATO
* Immigration from non-EU countries
* Immigrant assimilation
* NHS privitisation
* NHS funding
* Social care funding
* Mental health funding
* Legal aid's gone
* Tax evasion
* Offshore banking
* National debt
* Economic stimulus
* Insufficent banking regulation
* Corporate tax
* Inheritance and/or mansion tax
* Infrastructure development
* What to do with the North
* Skills gaps
* Youth unemployment
* 0-hour contracts
* Bedroom Tax
* Universal Credit
* Pensioners as a protected species
* Housing and house prices (duh!)
* Nuclear energy/energy gap
* Government surveillance
* House of Lords reform (remember that?)
* Electoral reform
* Campaign finance
* Free schools. grammar schools and other tinkering with types of schools that stare state schools of funding
* Tuition fees for university students
* Prison reform
* Climate change (but who cares about that - the kid's can sort it out)
* Corruption, but globally speaking the UK's pretty good.
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Did I miss anything?"
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"And yet 335,000 came to live here last year so it cant be that bad"
And 1+ millions Brits live in Spain... And roughly 3 millions live all over Europe... You will have some visa payments to make when going to Las Palmas or cap dagde after brexit; also levy taxes on any income you may have outside the UK...
Many pro Brextit claim the necessity of taking back control, as if they control anything: Their billionaires sees them as peasants... Not planning to insult anyone here, but I know that's how they see their "People"
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