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"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this?" Communism... Serious answer now. People still need to programme them, create them, think beyond the jobs we have now. Have greater responsibility. How has the dynamics of jobs changed in the last 20 years? | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Communism... Serious answer now. People still need to programme them, create them, think beyond the jobs we have now. Have greater responsibility. How has the dynamics of jobs changed in the last 20 years?" Indeed. Didn't we have these same worries with the invention of the steam engine? -Matt | |||
"People still need to programme them, create them" I think you and many others are very wrong. I believe that the CPU is the model of how things are going to develop. Fact is like it or not CPU's design CPU's now, therefore computers now design computers our input is minimal and really restricted to packaging aesthetics. This trend is not going to stop but will accelerate and eventually spread to every field. There is a limit on how many blue sky thinkers we can produce. Unless we radically change our economic model we are in danger of scrapping the human race so that a few hundred can hoard the wealth created by humanity over our existence, and in so doing we will render our species obsolete. | |||
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"We will still need people in the service/health sector " How many doctors, dentists, field workers and servants do you think do you think 62 people need? Remember the 62 richest people in the world already own half the worlds wealth and are acquiring more every second. At present over 90% of the worlds wealth is held by about 300 million people (4% of the world population) and those numbers are shrinking at an alarming rate. There is only so much stuff you can use and there is a limit to how many servants you can have too.. | |||
"We will still need people in the service/health sector How many doctors, dentists, field workers and servants do you think do you think 62 people need? Remember the 62 richest people in the world already own half the worlds wealth and are acquiring more every second. At present over 90% of the worlds wealth is held by about 300 million people (4% of the world population) and those numbers are shrinking at an alarming rate. There is only so much stuff you can use and there is a limit to how many servants you can have too.." Tourism/coffee shops, general shops etc etc,will need large numbers, didnt the toll puddle martyrs think the same? While many jobs may be taken over by robots I am sure mankind will find productive uses for everyone, if not I will probably be dead by the time it becomes a problem | |||
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"People still need to programme them, create them I think you and many others are very wrong. I believe that the CPU is the model of how things are going to develop. Fact is like it or not CPU's design CPU's now, therefore computers now design computers our input is minimal and really restricted to packaging aesthetics. This trend is not going to stop but will accelerate and eventually spread to every field. There is a limit on how many blue sky thinkers we can produce. Unless we radically change our economic model we are in danger of scrapping the human race so that a few hundred can hoard the wealth created by humanity over our existence, and in so doing we will render our species obsolete." People still create machine learning systems. Data scientists are needed to understand value of data. People to make decisions based on insights these machines create. There is still a creator behind any machine intelligence. | |||
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"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this?" We don't....have you not seen the Terminator documentary.....? | |||
"If machines make the products who will buy them if nobody works?People have to work simple" Only in a capitalist system. The problem is in a capitalist system capital (money and property) is power and those with power very rarely give it up voluntarily but instead seek to acquire more. | |||
"If machines make the products who will buy them if nobody works?People have to work simple" People will have to fix the machines  | |||
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"If machines make the products who will buy them if nobody works?People have to work simple People will have to fix the machines "Do they? What if its cheaper just to replace it if it breaks? Google already does this. When one part of one of their servers fails they just bin it and get a new one. They could just fix the part but its not worth it to pay someone to do that. | |||
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" As more machines do the jobs needed in society then humans will have more free time or leisure time." A bit like being on the dole...the hours are great but the wages are shit " If machines are paid a wage for the work they do and they become more efficient over time boosting productivity then the wealth generated by the machines in the economy can be dispersed by the state to the population through payments to citizens on an equal basis. " Or hoarded in the Cayman Islands | |||
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"Am I the only one who looks at this situation and thinks "we need to stop breeding right now"?" Nope... The Chinese worked that out a long time ago. Shame the rest of the world has failed to follow their lead. | |||
"Am I the only one who looks at this situation and thinks "we need to stop breeding right now"? Nope... The Chinese worked that out a long time ago. Shame the rest of the world has failed to follow their lead." As I recall though, that didn't work anywhere near as well as they'd hoped it would. | |||
"Am I the only one who looks at this situation and thinks "we need to stop breeding right now"? Nope... The Chinese worked that out a long time ago. Shame the rest of the world has failed to follow their lead. As I recall though, that didn't work anywhere near as well as they'd hoped it would. " It stabilised their population. | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this?" Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations. | |||
"Am I the only one who looks at this situation and thinks "we need to stop breeding right now"? Nope... The Chinese worked that out a long time ago. Shame the rest of the world has failed to follow their lead. As I recall though, that didn't work anywhere near as well as they'd hoped it would. It stabilised their population." It worked incredibly well, until the demographics shift and you have one worker to support two pensioners. | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations." Oh yes, fossil fuels will save us!  | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations. Oh yes, fossil fuels will save us! "Perhaps not save us, but will keep us employed in jobs and the product is used for the manufacture of basically every item you use in life, one would be a fool to think the product only supplies fuel 
I do note you failed to provide an example | |||
" It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations." I know you work in the industry but do you really believe that there is not a time coming soon when most rigs will be automated? I can only think of one job on a rig that is unlikely to be automated in the future and it is not really a 'tech' job although it is done by rope access technicians (better know as the dopes on the ropes) who go under the rigs with chainsaws to cut away the debris that gets caught around the legs, risers/drills and moorings. I guess that there will be a need for a small emergency/security crew to transport parts to maintenance robots as required, but i would think that nearly all offshore jobs will be phased out and that the production rigs will be the first to become like the lighthouses and only visited for maintenance. | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations. Oh yes, fossil fuels will save us!
Perhaps not save us, but will keep us employed in jobs
and the product is used for the manufacture of basically every item you use in life, one would be a fool to think the product only supplies fuel
I do note you failed to provide an example"You asked the poster you quoted to provide examples, not me. I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about offshore oil, and I get the impression that you are not new to the sector, how many people work in it today compared to when you started? Let's also look at another fossil fuel, coal. How many worked in the coal industry in the UK in 1900? 1950? 1985? 2017? Would you really describe that as a growth industry for people to get into? | |||
" It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations. I know you work in the industry but do you really believe that there is not a time coming soon when most rigs will be automated? I can only think of one job on a rig that is unlikely to be automated in the future and it is not really a 'tech' job although it is done by rope access technicians (better know as the dopes on the ropes) who go under the rigs with chainsaws to cut away the debris that gets caught around the legs, risers/drills and moorings. I guess that there will be a need for a small emergency/security crew to transport parts to maintenance robots as required, but i would think that nearly all offshore jobs will be phased out and that the production rigs will be the first to become like the lighthouses and only visited for maintenance." A prime example in North Sea is the Elgin / Franklin, the Elgin being the main production platform, the Franklin being an "unmanned" satellite feeding back to the Elgin, this was inoperable unmanned, high casing pressures were a daily occurrence, damaged chokes & instrumentation, leaks and many other daily occurrence's meant a daily flying squad was required to fly out each day and rectify these faults - daily. Cant see any chain saws used offshore as they are an ignition source, you do get guys that exaggerate stories of what the do offshore but rope access with a chainsaw even the "not so brights" can see the dangers there . Rope access is used a lot and basically its a money saving idea simply to save money on scaffold and mostly used for bombing | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations. Oh yes, fossil fuels will save us!
Perhaps not save us, but will keep us employed in jobs
and the product is used for the manufacture of basically every item you use in life, one would be a fool to think the product only supplies fuel
I do note you failed to provide an example
You asked the poster you quoted to provide examples, not me.
I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about offshore oil, and I get the impression that you are not new to the sector, how many people work in it today compared to when you started?
Let's also look at another fossil fuel, coal.
How many worked in the coal industry in the UK in 1900? 1950? 1985? 2017? Would you really describe that as a growth industry for people to get into? "if you're Indian maybe yes | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations." Have you never used the DLR then?, thinking about it it's the higher skilled posts that will go first as the cost savings will make automation economically viable, whereas replacing a Polish cleaner won't pay for itself | |||
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" The days of an autonomous society are many decades away though." 5 yrs ago autonomous driving was something out of a sci fi novel | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations. Oh yes, fossil fuels will save us!
Perhaps not save us, but will keep us employed in jobs
and the product is used for the manufacture of basically every item you use in life, one would be a fool to think the product only supplies fuel
I do note you failed to provide an example
You asked the poster you quoted to provide examples, not me.
I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about offshore oil, and I get the impression that you are not new to the sector, how many people work in it today compared to when you started?
"I have given a good few examples above on why offshore oil and gas production will never be automated and could continue. and yes I agree there is reduced manning compaired to 1980's, platforms that had around 300 - 400 men are down to around 200, but this is mostly due to tightening of jobs, time in motion, cost cutting, fact is, manning will always be required offshore, and even "Un-manned" Satellite platforms designed to be unmanned require daily manning | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations. Oh yes, fossil fuels will save us!
Perhaps not save us, but will keep us employed in jobs
and the product is used for the manufacture of basically every item you use in life, one would be a fool to think the product only supplies fuel
I do note you failed to provide an example
You asked the poster you quoted to provide examples, not me.
I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about offshore oil, and I get the impression that you are not new to the sector, how many people work in it today compared to when you started?
I have given a good few examples above on why offshore oil and gas production will never be automated and could continue.
and yes I agree there is reduced manning compaired to 1980's, platforms that had around 300 - 400 men are down to around 200, but this is mostly due to tightening of jobs, time in motion, cost cutting,
fact is, manning will always be required offshore, and even "Un-manned" Satellite platforms designed to be unmanned require daily manning"But you said that oil and gas will keep us employed when automation takes 40% of jobs. How can oil and gas give those people a job when according to your own figures there are upto 50% less people working on rigs than there were when you started? | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations. Oh yes, fossil fuels will save us!
Perhaps not save us, but will keep us employed in jobs
and the product is used for the manufacture of basically every item you use in life, one would be a fool to think the product only supplies fuel
I do note you failed to provide an example
You asked the poster you quoted to provide examples, not me.
I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about offshore oil, and I get the impression that you are not new to the sector, how many people work in it today compared to when you started?
I have given a good few examples above on why offshore oil and gas production will never be automated and could continue.
and yes I agree there is reduced manning compaired to 1980's, platforms that had around 300 - 400 men are down to around 200, but this is mostly due to tightening of jobs, time in motion, cost cutting,
fact is, manning will always be required offshore, and even "Un-manned" Satellite platforms designed to be unmanned require daily manning
But you said that oil and gas will keep us employed when automation takes 40% of jobs.
How can oil and gas give those people a job when according to your own figures there are upto 50% less people working on rigs than there were when you started? "you can say that with any job, its simply cutting back, cost saving, whether it be council working, hospitals, any bloody job, you are just trying to be smart with your comments above, I will repeat, offshore oil and gas will never be fully automated and will always require a workforce give me examples of full automation that you think has happened since 80's you do realise that there were cutbacks because basically there was little work being done and plenty tea room chat and card games, there is one thread that is not doing as well as you hoped, put your focus there | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations. Oh yes, fossil fuels will save us!
Perhaps not save us, but will keep us employed in jobs
and the product is used for the manufacture of basically every item you use in life, one would be a fool to think the product only supplies fuel
I do note you failed to provide an example
You asked the poster you quoted to provide examples, not me.
I'm sure you know a lot more than I do about offshore oil, and I get the impression that you are not new to the sector, how many people work in it today compared to when you started?
I have given a good few examples above on why offshore oil and gas production will never be automated and could continue.
and yes I agree there is reduced manning compaired to 1980's, platforms that had around 300 - 400 men are down to around 200, but this is mostly due to tightening of jobs, time in motion, cost cutting,
fact is, manning will always be required offshore, and even "Un-manned" Satellite platforms designed to be unmanned require daily manning
But you said that oil and gas will keep us employed when automation takes 40% of jobs.
How can oil and gas give those people a job when according to your own figures there are upto 50% less people working on rigs than there were when you started?
you can say that with any job, its simply cutting back, cost saving, whether it be council working, hospitals, any bloody job, you are just trying to be smart with your comments above, I will repeat, offshore oil and gas will never be fully automated and will always require a workforce
give me examples of full automation that you think has happened since 80's
you do realise that there were cutbacks because basically there was little work being done and plenty tea room chat and card games,
there is one thread that is not doing as well as you hoped, put your focus there"So when you said the sector would keep us in jobs, you weren't referring to providing jobs for the 40% of people who will lose their jobs due to automation? And in fact you say that upto 50% of jobs have been lost in the industry since you joined? Which is 10% higher than the 40% figure quoted by the OP. You are stating that the oil and gas industry will never be 100% automated, and no one has said that it would be. | |||
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"give me examples of full automation that you think has happened since 80's" Insurance underwriting Have you not used the DLR then, how long do you give it before London Underground goes driverless? | |||
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"I dont know why everyones got sidetracked into oil and gas production o_O The demand for fossil fuels is going to drop significantly over the next 15 years. Solar power is already cheaper in several markets and its only going to get even cheaper and more effective. As electric cars gain traction that will cause a massive drop in demand. And that drop in demand will mean a drop in production which will mean less jobs. As for the other jobs that will be gone or see a massive drop in numbers: drivers, warehouse workers, food service industry, wall street traders have been passed in efficacy by software the last few months, accountants, telemarketers in the US have been replaced by voice acted computer scripts with the majority of people not noticing, insurance underwriters, journalists and technical writers. The list goes on and on." Well said.  The age of oil is comming to an end they cant pump it out quick enough. Germany will be 85% renewable energy in a few decades. Thats the future. The nuclear renaissance looks dead in the water.
The machines that will take your jobs will not all be mechanical.Clever general intelligence algorithms will be sufficient to replace you . | |||
"I dont know why everyones got sidetracked into oil and gas production o_O The demand for fossil fuels is going to drop significantly over the next 15 years. Solar power is already cheaper in several markets and its only going to get even cheaper and more effective. As electric cars gain traction that will cause a massive drop in demand. And that drop in demand will mean a drop in production which will mean less jobs. As for the other jobs that will be gone or see a massive drop in numbers: drivers, warehouse workers, food service industry, wall street traders have been passed in efficacy by software the last few months, accountants, telemarketers in the US have been replaced by voice acted computer scripts with the majority of people not noticing, insurance underwriters, journalists and technical writers. The list goes on and on. Well said. The age of oil is comming to an end they cant pump it out quick enough. Germany will be 85% renewable energy in a few decades. Thats the future. The nuclear renaissance looks dead in the water.
The machines that will take your jobs will not all be mechanical.Clever general intelligence algorithms will be sufficient to replace you ."The age of oil is coming to an end, come on, your smarter than that, will you make your tampons from renewable energy? . Here are some of the oil and natural gas products you might find in your own home: Petroleum is hiding in your closet in: 1. Clothing made from synthetic fibers such as acrylic, 2. nylon, 3. polyester, 4. coated with formaldehyde finishes (even organic cotton could fall into this category) 5. Socks 6. Buttons 7. The stretchy part of your underwear 8. all of your bra 9. Running shoes 10. The soles of your shoes 11. Stretchy jeans 12. shirts, etc. 13. Plastic earrings, 14. bracelets, 15. necklaces, etc. 16. Sunscreen 17. Body lotion 18. Ibuprofen and 19. Aspirin 20. Hair conditioner 21. Shampoo 22. Hairbrush 23. Hair bands 24. Bobby pins 25. Toothbrush 26. Toothpaste 27. Soap 28. Tampons 29. Sanitary pads 31. Lipstick 32. Mascara 33. Eyeliner 34. Lip plumper 35. Vaseline 36. Nail polish 37. Eye makeup remover 38. Hair gel 39. Hair spray 40. Perfume 41. Foundation 42. Face powder 43. Eye shadow 44. Concealer 45. Sunglasses 46. iPod 47 Mobile Phone 48. Breath mints 49. Gum 50. Lip gloss and that list is only a tiny fraction of day to day Oil & Gas products . a tiny list. | |||
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"I dont know why everyones got sidetracked into oil and gas production o_O The demand for fossil fuels is going to drop significantly over the next 15 years. Solar power is already cheaper in several markets and its only going to get even cheaper and more effective. As electric cars gain traction that will cause a massive drop in demand. And that drop in demand will mean a drop in production which will mean less jobs. As for the other jobs that will be gone or see a massive drop in numbers: drivers, warehouse workers, food service industry, wall street traders have been passed in efficacy by software the last few months, accountants, telemarketers in the US have been replaced by voice acted computer scripts with the majority of people not noticing, insurance underwriters, journalists and technical writers. The list goes on and on. Well said. The age of oil is comming to an end they cant pump it out quick enough. Germany will be 85% renewable energy in a few decades. Thats the future. The nuclear renaissance looks dead in the water.
The machines that will take your jobs will not all be mechanical.Clever general intelligence algorithms will be sufficient to replace you .
The age of oil is coming to an end, come on, your smarter than that, will you make your tampons from renewable energy?
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Here are some of the oil and natural gas products you might find in your own home:
Petroleum is hiding in your closet in:
1. Clothing made from synthetic fibers such as acrylic,
2. nylon,
3. polyester,
4. coated with formaldehyde finishes (even organic cotton could fall into this category)
5. Socks
6. Buttons
7. The stretchy part of your underwear 8. all of your bra
9. Running shoes
10. The soles of your shoes
11. Stretchy jeans
12. shirts, etc.
13. Plastic earrings,
14. bracelets,
15. necklaces, etc.
16. Sunscreen
17. Body lotion
18. Ibuprofen and
19. Aspirin
20. Hair conditioner
21. Shampoo
22. Hairbrush
23. Hair bands
24. Bobby pins
25. Toothbrush
26. Toothpaste
27. Soap
28. Tampons
29. Sanitary pads
31. Lipstick
32. Mascara
33. Eyeliner
34. Lip plumper
35. Vaseline
36. Nail polish
37. Eye makeup remover
38. Hair gel
39. Hair spray
40. Perfume
41. Foundation
42. Face powder
43. Eye shadow
44. Concealer
45. Sunglasses
46. iPod
47 Mobile Phone 48. Breath mints
49. Gum
50. Lip gloss
and that list is only a tiny fraction of day to day Oil & Gas products
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a tiny list."Thats all true, but demand for oil and gas is going to decrease a lot over the coming 2 decades. While we will need them for products we wont be using them for fuel. So oil and gas jobs wont be the way to save employment for people. Its going to see a big decrease in number of workers just like many other industries. | |||
"Recent predictions suggest up to 40% of current jobs will become automated in next couple of decades - do you think this will be a major problem and how do we restructure the economy to deal with this? Would be better if some of these jobs were named and examples given, exactly what type of job, be specific? . It will not happen with offshore oil & gas production, mechanics, electricians, Instrument techs (tiffies) and Production Operators will always be required to ensure maximum safe operations." Actually no. Someone will probably create a programme which fully automates the saftey operations, shut down proceedures, probably also create terrestrial, airborne and aquatic repair dones with automated repair and diagnostic programmes. They will also probably create a centralised system which only alerts people if the machine assesses a risk factor of a certain percent. A.i, codes and programmes will run machines, machines will repair machines, ultimately, maybe in 20 years, we will be looking at maybe, 10 people operating a 'fleet' of machines which could potentially replace a couple of hundred humans. Lets face it, you dont need to pay a machine, they can potentially work 24/7 and they dont have rights, just operating standards. For buisness its perefect. The sooner people realise that a vast net amount of jobs will be lost, rather than created, the better. | |||
" The age of oil is coming to an end, come on, your smarter than that, will you make your tampons from renewable energy? . Here are some of the oil and natural gas products you might find in your own home: Petroleum is hiding in your closet in: 1. Clothing made from synthetic fibers such as acrylic, 2. nylon, 3. polyester, 4. coated with formaldehyde finishes (even organic cotton could fall into this category) 5. Socks 6. Buttons 7. The stretchy part of your underwear 8. all of your bra 9. Running shoes 10. The soles of your shoes 11. Stretchy jeans 12. shirts, etc. 13. Plastic earrings, 14. bracelets, 15. necklaces, etc. 16. Sunscreen 17. Body lotion 18. Ibuprofen and 19. Aspirin 20. Hair conditioner 21. Shampoo 22. Hairbrush 23. Hair bands 24. Bobby pins 25. Toothbrush 26. Toothpaste 27. Soap 28. Tampons 29. Sanitary pads 31. Lipstick 32. Mascara 33. Eyeliner 34. Lip plumper 35. Vaseline 36. Nail polish 37. Eye makeup remover 38. Hair gel 39. Hair spray 40. Perfume 41. Foundation 42. Face powder 43. Eye shadow 44. Concealer 45. Sunglasses 46. iPod 47 Mobile Phone 48. Breath mints 49. Gum 50. Lip gloss and that list is only a tiny fraction of day to day Oil & Gas products . a tiny list." Steve Steve STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE WHERE SHAll WE BUILD THE ALTER TO WORSHIP YOU FOR PUMPING OIL OUT THE GROUND STEVE WHERE I'VE GOT A SACRIFICE AND EVERYTHING STEVE JUST FOR YOU STEVE FOR PUMPING OIL OUT THE GROUND STEVE IT'S A DONALD TRUMP BUM YOU DOLL STEVE STEEEEEEVE STEEEEEEEEEEEVE STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE WHERE DO YOU WANT THE ALTER STEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVE | |||
"I dont know why everyones got sidetracked into oil and gas production o_O The demand for fossil fuels is going to drop significantly over the next 15 years. Solar power is already cheaper in several markets and its only going to get even cheaper and more effective. As electric cars gain traction that will cause a massive drop in demand. And that drop in demand will mean a drop in production which will mean less jobs. As for the other jobs that will be gone or see a massive drop in numbers: drivers, warehouse workers, food service industry, wall street traders have been passed in efficacy by software the last few months, accountants, telemarketers in the US have been replaced by voice acted computer scripts with the majority of people not noticing, insurance underwriters, journalists and technical writers. The list goes on and on. Well said. The age of oil is comming to an end they cant pump it out quick enough. Germany will be 85% renewable energy in a few decades. Thats the future. The nuclear renaissance looks dead in the water.
The machines that will take your jobs will not all be mechanical.Clever general intelligence algorithms will be sufficient to replace you .
The age of oil is coming to an end, come on, your smarter than that, will you make your tampons from renewable energy?
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Here are some of the oil and natural gas products you might find in your own home:
Petroleum is hiding in your closet in:
1. Clothing made from synthetic fibers such as acrylic,
2. nylon,
3. polyester,
4. coated with formaldehyde finishes (even organic cotton could fall into this category)
5. Socks
6. Buttons
7. The stretchy part of your underwear 8. all of your bra
9. Running shoes
10. The soles of your shoes
11. Stretchy jeans
12. shirts, etc.
13. Plastic earrings,
14. bracelets,
15. necklaces, etc.
16. Sunscreen
17. Body lotion
18. Ibuprofen and
19. Aspirin
20. Hair conditioner
21. Shampoo
22. Hairbrush
23. Hair bands
24. Bobby pins
25. Toothbrush
26. Toothpaste
27. Soap
28. Tampons
29. Sanitary pads
31. Lipstick
32. Mascara
33. Eyeliner
34. Lip plumper
35. Vaseline
36. Nail polish
37. Eye makeup remover
38. Hair gel
39. Hair spray
40. Perfume
41. Foundation
42. Face powder
43. Eye shadow
44. Concealer
45. Sunglasses
46. iPod
47 Mobile Phone 48. Breath mints
49. Gum
50. Lip gloss
and that list is only a tiny fraction of day to day Oil & Gas products
.
a tiny list."Sad fact is though, in biotechnology we are already learning how to engineer yeast cells so they produce deisel and petroleum biosynthetics. Once these are upscaled its likely all those oil based plastic and rubber products will convert to yeast based biopetroleum. | |||
"I dont know why everyones got sidetracked into oil and gas production o_O The demand for fossil fuels is going to drop significantly over the next 15 years. Solar power is already cheaper in several markets and its only going to get even cheaper and more effective. As electric cars gain traction that will cause a massive drop in demand. And that drop in demand will mean a drop in production which will mean less jobs. As for the other jobs that will be gone or see a massive drop in numbers: drivers, warehouse workers, food service industry, wall street traders have been passed in efficacy by software the last few months, accountants, telemarketers in the US have been replaced by voice acted computer scripts with the majority of people not noticing, insurance underwriters, journalists and technical writers. The list goes on and on. Well said. The age of oil is comming to an end they cant pump it out quick enough. Germany will be 85% renewable energy in a few decades. Thats the future. The nuclear renaissance looks dead in the water.
The machines that will take your jobs will not all be mechanical.Clever general intelligence algorithms will be sufficient to replace you .
The age of oil is coming to an end, come on, your smarter than that, will you make your tampons from renewable energy?
.
Here are some of the oil and natural gas products you might find in your own home:
Petroleum is hiding in your closet in:
1. Clothing made from synthetic fibers such as acrylic,
2. nylon,
3. polyester,
4. coated with formaldehyde finishes (even organic cotton could fall into this category)
5. Socks
6. Buttons
7. The stretchy part of your underwear 8. all of your bra
9. Running shoes
10. The soles of your shoes
11. Stretchy jeans
12. shirts, etc.
13. Plastic earrings,
14. bracelets,
15. necklaces, etc.
16. Sunscreen
17. Body lotion
18. Ibuprofen and
19. Aspirin
20. Hair conditioner
21. Shampoo
22. Hairbrush
23. Hair bands
24. Bobby pins
25. Toothbrush
26. Toothpaste
27. Soap
28. Tampons
29. Sanitary pads
31. Lipstick
32. Mascara
33. Eyeliner
34. Lip plumper
35. Vaseline
36. Nail polish
37. Eye makeup remover
38. Hair gel
39. Hair spray
40. Perfume
41. Foundation
42. Face powder
43. Eye shadow
44. Concealer
45. Sunglasses
46. iPod
47 Mobile Phone 48. Breath mints
49. Gum
50. Lip gloss
and that list is only a tiny fraction of day to day Oil & Gas products
.
a tiny list.
Sad fact is though, in biotechnology we are already learning how to engineer yeast cells so they produce deisel and petroleum biosynthetics. Once these are upscaled its likely all those oil based plastic and rubber products will convert to yeast based biopetroleum."The Stone Age did not end for lack of stone, and the Oil Age will end long before the world runs out of oil | |||
" Sad fact is though, in biotechnology we are already learning how to engineer yeast cells so they produce deisel and petroleum biosynthetics. Once these are upscaled its likely all those oil based plastic and rubber products will convert to yeast based biopetroleum." Whats sad about that? We'll have a sustainable way to keep making these products. We wont have to deal with the dangerous work conditions that make oil and gas one of the more dangerous industries. And it will be better for the environment and a lot cheaper. | |||
" Sad fact is though, in biotechnology we are already learning how to engineer yeast cells so they produce deisel and petroleum biosynthetics. Once these are upscaled its likely all those oil based plastic and rubber products will convert to yeast based biopetroleum. Whats sad about that? We'll have a sustainable way to keep making these products. We wont have to deal with the dangerous work conditions that make oil and gas one of the more dangerous industries. And it will be better for the environment and a lot cheaper." Exactly, I agree, that's why I like my work because we work to phase in new technologies to replace and work withold industries. Sadly though, there are people who still cling to the old methods of the 'fossil fuel age' as it might be termed. Such an attitude is futile and foolish. Anyone who holds onto that in the face of growing progress and when the upcoming tax paying generation is demanding clean and sustainable generation is ultimately limiting themselves and being the architect of their own, and their businesses destruction. | |||
"I dont know why everyones got sidetracked into oil and gas production o_O The demand for fossil fuels is going to drop significantly over the next 15 years. Solar power is already cheaper in several markets and its only going to get even cheaper and more effective. As electric cars gain traction that will cause a massive drop in demand. And that drop in demand will mean a drop in production which will mean less jobs. As for the other jobs that will be gone or see a massive drop in numbers: drivers, warehouse workers, food service industry, wall street traders have been passed in efficacy by software the last few months, accountants, telemarketers in the US have been replaced by voice acted computer scripts with the majority of people not noticing, insurance underwriters, journalists and technical writers. The list goes on and on. Well said. The age of oil is comming to an end they cant pump it out quick enough. Germany will be 85% renewable energy in a few decades. Thats the future. The nuclear renaissance looks dead in the water.
The machines that will take your jobs will not all be mechanical.Clever general intelligence algorithms will be sufficient to replace you .
The age of oil is coming to an end, come on, your smarter than that, will you make your tampons from renewable energy?
.
Here are some of the oil and natural gas products you might find in your own home:
Petroleum is hiding in your closet in:
1. Clothing made from synthetic fibers such as acrylic,
2. nylon,
3. polyester,
4. coated with formaldehyde finishes (even organic cotton could fall into this category)
5. Socks
6. Buttons
7. The stretchy part of your underwear 8. all of your bra
9. Running shoes
10. The soles of your shoes
11. Stretchy jeans
12. shirts, etc.
13. Plastic earrings,
14. bracelets,
15. necklaces, etc.
16. Sunscreen
17. Body lotion
18. Ibuprofen and
19. Aspirin
20. Hair conditioner
21. Shampoo
22. Hairbrush
23. Hair bands
24. Bobby pins
25. Toothbrush
26. Toothpaste
27. Soap
28. Tampons
29. Sanitary pads
31. Lipstick
32. Mascara
33. Eyeliner
34. Lip plumper
35. Vaseline
36. Nail polish
37. Eye makeup remover
38. Hair gel
39. Hair spray
40. Perfume
41. Foundation
42. Face powder
43. Eye shadow
44. Concealer
45. Sunglasses
46. iPod
47 Mobile Phone 48. Breath mints
49. Gum
50. Lip gloss
and that list is only a tiny fraction of day to day Oil & Gas products
.
a tiny list.
Sad fact is though, in biotechnology we are already learning how to engineer yeast cells so they produce deisel and petroleum biosynthetics. Once these are upscaled its likely all those oil based plastic and rubber products will convert to yeast based biopetroleum.The Stone Age did not end for lack of stone, and the Oil Age will end long before the world runs out of oil"I'm well aware. But will people perceive biosyntetic petroleum products produced from yeast cells as 'oil'? But yes, the oil age has arguably already ended - atleast in terms of domestic energy. It's not the gas age, and globally we are moving to a nuclear/renewable age. | |||
"I dont know why everyones got sidetracked into oil and gas production o_O The demand for fossil fuels is going to drop significantly over the next 15 years. Solar power is already cheaper in several markets and its only going to get even cheaper and more effective. As electric cars gain traction that will cause a massive drop in demand. And that drop in demand will mean a drop in production which will mean less jobs. As for the other jobs that will be gone or see a massive drop in numbers: drivers, warehouse workers, food service industry, wall street traders have been passed in efficacy by software the last few months, accountants, telemarketers in the US have been replaced by voice acted computer scripts with the majority of people not noticing, insurance underwriters, journalists and technical writers. The list goes on and on. Well said. The age of oil is comming to an end they cant pump it out quick enough. Germany will be 85% renewable energy in a few decades. Thats the future. The nuclear renaissance looks dead in the water.
The machines that will take your jobs will not all be mechanical.Clever general intelligence algorithms will be sufficient to replace you .
The age of oil is coming to an end, come on, your smarter than that, will you make your tampons from renewable energy?
.
Here are some of the oil and natural gas products you might find in your own home:
Petroleum is hiding in your closet in:
1. Clothing made from synthetic fibers such as acrylic,
2. nylon,
3. polyester,
4. coated with formaldehyde finishes (even organic cotton could fall into this category)
5. Socks
6. Buttons
7. The stretchy part of your underwear 8. all of your bra
9. Running shoes
10. The soles of your shoes
11. Stretchy jeans
12. shirts, etc.
13. Plastic earrings,
14. bracelets,
15. necklaces, etc.
16. Sunscreen
17. Body lotion
18. Ibuprofen and
19. Aspirin
20. Hair conditioner
21. Shampoo
22. Hairbrush
23. Hair bands
24. Bobby pins
25. Toothbrush
26. Toothpaste
27. Soap
28. Tampons
29. Sanitary pads
31. Lipstick
32. Mascara
33. Eyeliner
34. Lip plumper
35. Vaseline
36. Nail polish
37. Eye makeup remover
38. Hair gel
39. Hair spray
40. Perfume
41. Foundation
42. Face powder
43. Eye shadow
44. Concealer
45. Sunglasses
46. iPod
47 Mobile Phone 48. Breath mints
49. Gum
50. Lip gloss
and that list is only a tiny fraction of day to day Oil & Gas products
.
a tiny list.
Sad fact is though, in biotechnology we are already learning how to engineer yeast cells so they produce deisel and petroleum biosynthetics. Once these are upscaled its likely all those oil based plastic and rubber products will convert to yeast based biopetroleum.The Stone Age did not end for lack of stone, and the Oil Age will end long before the world runs out of oil
I'm well aware. But will people perceive biosyntetic petroleum products produced from yeast cells as 'oil'?
But yes, the oil age has arguably already ended - atleast in terms of domestic energy. It's not the gas age, and globally we are moving to a nuclear/renewable age."Let it go Steve. Oil will run out or it will be replaced. Fact. Look at memory. That has been a disruption many times in the last 30 years. From a 128mb computer to terabytes. | |||
"I dont know why everyones got sidetracked into oil and gas production o_O The demand for fossil fuels is going to drop significantly over the next 15 years. Solar power is already cheaper in several markets and its only going to get even cheaper and more effective. As electric cars gain traction that will cause a massive drop in demand. And that drop in demand will mean a drop in production which will mean less jobs. As for the other jobs that will be gone or see a massive drop in numbers: drivers, warehouse workers, food service industry, wall street traders have been passed in efficacy by software the last few months, accountants, telemarketers in the US have been replaced by voice acted computer scripts with the majority of people not noticing, insurance underwriters, journalists and technical writers. The list goes on and on. Well said. The age of oil is comming to an end they cant pump it out quick enough. Germany will be 85% renewable energy in a few decades. Thats the future. The nuclear renaissance looks dead in the water.
The machines that will take your jobs will not all be mechanical.Clever general intelligence algorithms will be sufficient to replace you .
The age of oil is coming to an end, come on, your smarter than that, will you make your tampons from renewable energy?
.
Here are some of the oil and natural gas products you might find in your own home:
Petroleum is hiding in your closet in:
1. Clothing made from synthetic fibers such as acrylic,
2. nylon,
3. polyester,
4. coated with formaldehyde finishes (even organic cotton could fall into this category)
5. Socks
6. Buttons
7. The stretchy part of your underwear 8. all of your bra
9. Running shoes
10. The soles of your shoes
11. Stretchy jeans
12. shirts, etc.
13. Plastic earrings,
14. bracelets,
15. necklaces, etc.
16. Sunscreen
17. Body lotion
18. Ibuprofen and
19. Aspirin
20. Hair conditioner
21. Shampoo
22. Hairbrush
23. Hair bands
24. Bobby pins
25. Toothbrush
26. Toothpaste
27. Soap
28. Tampons
29. Sanitary pads
31. Lipstick
32. Mascara
33. Eyeliner
34. Lip plumper
35. Vaseline
36. Nail polish
37. Eye makeup remover
38. Hair gel
39. Hair spray
40. Perfume
41. Foundation
42. Face powder
43. Eye shadow
44. Concealer
45. Sunglasses
46. iPod
47 Mobile Phone 48. Breath mints
49. Gum
50. Lip gloss
and that list is only a tiny fraction of day to day Oil & Gas products
.
a tiny list.
Sad fact is though, in biotechnology we are already learning how to engineer yeast cells so they produce deisel and petroleum biosynthetics. Once these are upscaled its likely all those oil based plastic and rubber products will convert to yeast based biopetroleum.The Stone Age did not end for lack of stone, and the Oil Age will end long before the world runs out of oil
I'm well aware. But will people perceive biosyntetic petroleum products produced from yeast cells as 'oil'?
But yes, the oil age has arguably already ended - atleast in terms of domestic energy. It's not the gas age, and globally we are moving to a nuclear/renewable age.
Let it go Steve. Oil will run out or it will be replaced. Fact. Look at memory. That has been a disruption many times in the last 30 years. From a 128mb computer to terabytes. "Idk if you responded to the wrong post, but that was my post :P | |||
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"Well I have done my bit for the Job Market, I have just Retired, will sit back and open the door to another to fill my job whilst I receive my well earned pension at an exceptionally young age hope the new lad has big boots "If your pension lasts you are a lucky man. I wish you well. | |||
"Well I have done my bit for the Job Market, I have just Retired, will sit back and open the door to another to fill my job whilst I receive my well earned pension at an exceptionally young age hope the new lad has big boots
If your pension lasts you are a lucky man. I wish you well."Thank you sir, and yes it will last as it is from one of the largest corporation's in the world with a huge pot, thanks to "Oil & Gas. lets hope the next girl or boy to fill my place has another 30 years in the industry | |||
