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15% Increase on your council tax .
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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Surrey is to hold a referendum on increasing council tax by a massive 15% to pay for the growing crisis in social care.Would you vote yes or no?.
Older people's services representing the bulk of care have been particularly badly hit by the goverment and that's where the money is needed. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
Newcastle and Gateshead |
"Surrey is to hold a referendum on increasing council tax by a massive 15% to pay for the growing crisis in social care.Would you vote yes or no?.
Older people's services representing the bulk of care have been particularly badly hit by the goverment and that's where the money is needed."
much more context on it that that
the government said that local councils this year were allowed after a long freeze to raise council tax by 2%
they then said they were allowed to raise increases on council tax from 2% to 5% if that 3% specifically went on social care (of which central govt have been taking more and more money away...)
they then said if a council wanted to raise it by more than that, then it would have to go to a local referendum...
surrey county council are saying the government had cut its annual grant by £170m since 2010
the interesting thing here... surrey county council in conservative run.... and the tory mps in the county are split for/against the increase...... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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While we still give money "Aid" to Nuclear armed Countries with space programs then no, any form of rise for anything is just a fucking kick in the face to all of us. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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And Hammond and Hunt's constituencies are in Surrey, so they will both get a vote.
Having said that, I'm not sure that all if the ill's with the NHS can be solved with money.
We have a relation in hospital at the moment. Been there 2 weeks, and if the 5 departments involved actually spoke to each other they would have been out after 3 days. Tests not being done. Not being done correctly. Being falsified as having been done. Discharging without the right tests. Discharging against national minimum standards.
And all absolutely fuck all to do with money or resources. Just pure and simple organisation. And professional pride. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Anyone from down there actually put the 15% into monetary figures? I'm guessing it's not going to be just a few quid."
A few hundred quid on your council tax depending on your tax band.
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Anyone from down there actually put the 15% into monetary figures? I'm guessing it's not going to be just a few quid. A few hundred quid on your council tax depending on your tax band. "
you taking a month or year |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Anyone from down there actually put the 15% into monetary figures? I'm guessing it's not going to be just a few quid. A few hundred quid on your council tax depending on your tax band.
you taking a month or year"
The increase will be about £15 a month or £200 a year.The council say they will slash social care budgets if its a no vote.Which it will be.Surrey is the wealthiest council in the UK and they can't afford the elderly.It looks like disabled people and the old are a luxury we citzens dont want to pay for.Westminister says there is no more money. |
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"Anyone from down there actually put the 15% into monetary figures? I'm guessing it's not going to be just a few quid. A few hundred quid on your council tax depending on your tax band.
you taking a month or yearThe increase will be about £15 a month or £200 a year.The council say they will slash social care budgets if its a no vote.Which it will be.Surrey is the wealthiest council in the UK and they can't afford the elderly.It looks like disabled people and the old are a luxury we citzens dont want to pay for.Westminister says there is no more money."
15% it's a huge increase! Minimum wage don't increase that much 
And this is all before Brexit! I wonder what will happen after 
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Anyone from down there actually put the 15% into monetary figures? I'm guessing it's not going to be just a few quid. A few hundred quid on your council tax depending on your tax band.
you taking a month or yearThe increase will be about £15 a month or £200 a year.The council say they will slash social care budgets if its a no vote.Which it will be.Surrey is the wealthiest council in the UK and they can't afford the elderly.It looks like disabled people and the old are a luxury we citzens dont want to pay for.Westminister says there is no more money.
15% it's a huge increase! Minimum wage don't increase that much
And this is all before Brexit! I wonder what will happen after
HK "
The blame falls at the goverments door. Surrey social care has been underfunded by £170 million since 2010.Its one of the main reasons the elderly are bed blocking the NHS hospitals because social care is failing. |
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By *immyXXMan
over a year ago
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Having recently left the social care sector I can say that it is a system that has been failing for years and one that the government has refused to fully acknowledge, cutting funding past the point of safety, money is not the answer, and will not solve the problem, so the referendum in surry is a waste of money, although it might force a discussion, |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Having recently left the social care sector I can say that it is a system that has been failing for years and one that the government has refused to fully acknowledge, cutting funding past the point of safety, money is not the answer, and will not solve the problem, so the referendum in surry is a waste of money, although it might force a discussion, "
Why isn't money the solution ? when in the same sentence you say the goverment is "cutting funding past the point of safety" .What is the solution? .  |
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By *immyXXMan
over a year ago
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"Having recently left the social care sector I can say that it is a system that has been failing for years and one that the government has refused to fully acknowledge, cutting funding past the point of safety, money is not the answer, and will not solve the problem, so the referendum in surry is a waste of money, although it might force a discussion, Why isn't money the solution ? when in the same sentence you say the goverment is "cutting funding past the point of safety" .What is the solution? . "
The whole system needs a overhaul, and this includes how the health sector is involved, at the moment communication between both is not able to happen as the people on the ground(care staff or nurses) can't make any decisions and those that can make them are nowhere to be found,
Time is wasted through a paper chase and tick box exercise, social workers have caseloads which are dangerously too big, and mistakes are being made.
The £200 per yr per household, will pay for BASIC care for 1 person for approx 3-4 DAYS?? There isn't enough money to solve the problem??
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