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"Will Iran adopt a more radical stance with out the influence of Rafsanjani ? not many left in the top tier with the influence he had" Why what's happened to him | |||
"Will Iran adopt a more radical stance with out the influence of Rafsanjani ? not many left in the top tier with the influence he had Why what's happened to him" he has become rather dead | |||
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"Died with a fortune estimated at over $1 billion. Obviously the Muslim priesthood is a good gig!" indeed , religion pays , but i still have a feeling that Iran would have been a lot less stable without Rafsanjani , things might take a different turn | |||
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"Or we could mention Iran air flight 655 shot down in Iranian air space on a scheduled regular flight by a US cruiser operating inside Iran's territorial waters with the loss of all 290 people on board!!. But no that would be hypocritical of me because only we in the west share this common value of not shooting down civilian airliners don't we "too hot""  | |||
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"Ah, Iran. Now there's an interesting subject area. Let's have a look at what women are forbidden to do in the Islamic Republic of Iran...just a very short list: 1. Women are prohibited from taking selfies with soccer players. Specifically, Iran’s “moral committee” has banned women from taking selfies with famous soccer players. 2. Iranian women are prohibited from riding bicycles. Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, recently issued an Islamic fatwa regarding officially banning women from riding bicycles. He argued that “riding bicycles often attracts the attention of men and exposes the society to corruption, and thus contravenes women’s chastity, and it must be abandoned,” according to Iran’s state-run media. 3. Coffee shops are prohibited from hiring women. According to Iran’s police, women are banned from working in any cafés. 4. Iranian Muslim women cannot marry non-Muslim men. But Iranian Muslim men can marry non-Muslim women. 5. It is forbidden for women to wear boots over their pants. (Why? I am not sure what is Iran’s Islamic logic behind this.) 6. Women are not allowed to wear hats instead of veils to cover their hair. 7. Women are not allowed to wear tight clothes that show their body curves. 8. Women are prohibited from wearing tight clothes for swimming. 9. Women are forbidden from changing their religion or criticizing Muhammad, Allah, the Supreme Leader and other Muslim leaders. 10. Women are prohibited from entering sport stadiums and watching men’s sports. 11. In Iran, buses and subways are divided in two sections. The larger front section is for men, the smaller back section is for women. Women are prohibited from entering the men’s section even if there are no seats left in the back and there are plenty of empty seats in front of the bus. 12. According to Iran’s moral police, women are banned from wearing leggings. 13. Women are prohibited from showing strands of their hair on any side. Article 683 states: “Those women that appear in the streets and public places without the Islamic hijab, shall be sentenced from ten days to two months’ imprisonment or fined from fifty thousand to five hundred thousand Rials.” 14. Women are banned from going camping with men. 15. Any kind of contraceptive surgery is not allowed for women. 16. Women are banned from entering coffeehouses or smoking hookah. 17. Women are not allowed to initiate divorce. Men have the right to do so. 18. According to Iran’s family code, women cannot travel abroad except with the permission of their custodian or natural guardian (husband, father, etc.). They also cannot obtain a passport without the consent of their husbands. 19. Women are banned from wearing clothes with writing on them. 20. Women are banned from taking their hijab off in any sport event, including in the Olympics. 21. Iranian women are prohibited from pursuing education in some academic fields. Iranian regime’s oil minister argued that “education of women in the field of operations such as drilling and processing and so on that require (physical) activities in operational areas and sites is useless and these are masculine (men’s) jobs.” 22. Women are not allowed to work in any occupation if their husband disagrees with it. Article 1105 of the Civil Code states, “In relations between husband and wife, the position of the head of the family exclusively belongs to the husband.” In addition, when it comes to employment laws, Article 1117 of the Civil Code indicates, “The husband can prevent his wife from an occupation or technical profession which is incompatible with the family’s interests or the dignity of him or his wife.” 23. Women are banned from receiving the same amount of inheritance as their male relatives. Even if a husband dies, the wife will receive only one-eighth of the inheritance if she has a child. 24. Women are forbidden from having any physical contact with men, including shaking hands. 25. Women are banned from becoming a Supreme Leader. 26. Girls, as young as 9 years old, are not allowed to object to their parents decision to marry them off. 27. Women are not allowed to object to their husband’s requests for sex. The law of Tamkin means women’s submission, obedience, full accessibility and unhampered sexual availability to her husband. Sexual availability is considered a woman’s duty and a man’s right. 28. Women are not allowed to bring lawsuits if they are raped, unless they have four witnesses. 29. Women are banned from socializing or dating men. 30. Women are banned from attracting attention in public through “flamboyant behavior” such as laughing loudly. 31. Women are not allowed to show any part of their skin except the face. It is encouraged to cover the face as well. 32. Women are not allowed to have any kind of alcoholic drinks. 33. Women are not allowed to dance. 34. Women are forbidden from being lesbian. Sex between two women is adultery and the punishments range from stoning to execution. 35. Women are banned from listening to “forbidden” music. 36. Women are not allowed to have pets, such as a dog. 37. Women are banned from adopting except if they have a husband and he agrees to do so. 38. Women are prohibited from gambling in any kind of event. 39. Women are banned from having sex or marrying a man up to five or six months after their divorce. 40. Women are prohibited from having tattoos. 41. Women are not allowed to have premarital relationships with men. 42. In many of Iran’s provinces, women are banned from performing music on stage. 43. Women are banned from being judges. 44. Women are banned from striking their husband, but men are allowed to do so in some circumstances. 45. Women are not allowed to show their jewelry in public. " so its not all bad then  | |||
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"Are you sure your not talking about Bradford or Preston,Accrington etc " hard to tell , never been to those places , but i dare say they are utterly delightful in their own unique way | |||
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"There is an irrational fear of Iran.It wouldnt worry me at all if they had nuclear weapons.Just about every spy satellite is looking at iran .The moment a launch was detected iran would be incinerated. They might be a little crazy at the top in Teheran but they aren't suicidal. "Being unashamed and committed racists their intended target is of course Israel which in due course would quite rightly incinerate them. It's a shame though that all their enslaved women would have to die because of the regimes inherent fascism. | |||
"There is an irrational fear of Iran.It wouldnt worry me at all if they had nuclear weapons.Just about every spy satellite is looking at iran .The moment a launch was detected iran would be incinerated. They might be a little crazy at the top in Teheran but they aren't suicidal.
Being unashamed and committed racists their intended target is of course Israel which in due course would quite rightly incinerate them. It's a shame though that all their enslaved women would have to die because of the regimes inherent fascism. "Everyone one is a infidel or a blasphemer to one religon or many if you choose a religous position.They all think they have the one true god on their side be they christian jew or muslim.Iran is no more of a threat to peace than israel or the usa. | |||
"There is an irrational fear of Iran.It wouldnt worry me at all if they had nuclear weapons.Just about every spy satellite is looking at iran .The moment a launch was detected iran would be incinerated. They might be a little crazy at the top in Teheran but they aren't suicidal. "No! There is no irrational fear of Iran. Iran is the inspiration and originator of the suicide bomber. Iran is the originator of the latest wave of Islamist terror. Even if you don't believe it the Ayatollah Khomeini is at heart responsible for the latest Islamic fundamentalist interpretation of the Quran. | |||
"There is an irrational fear of Iran.It wouldnt worry me at all if they had nuclear weapons.Just about every spy satellite is looking at iran .The moment a launch was detected iran would be incinerated. They might be a little crazy at the top in Teheran but they aren't suicidal.
No! There is no irrational fear of Iran.
Iran is the inspiration and originator of the suicide bomber. Iran is the originator of the latest wave of Islamist terror. Even if you don't believe it the Ayatollah Khomeini is at heart responsible for the latest Islamic fundamentalist interpretation of the Quran. "Whabiism is ISIS and its origins are Saudi Arabia not Iran. | |||
" Whabiism is ISIS and its origins are Saudi Arabia not Iran." Indeed, but the interpretation of the Quran that says sacrificing yourself to kill the enemy is not suicide but is martyrdom when done in the name of jihad is pure Ayatollah Konhami from the Iran Iraq war when he used Iranian children to clear Iraqi minefields so his trained troops could advance without taking minefield casualties. that is where ISIS and all the rest get their suicide bombing inspiration from. The Wahhabi Sunnis have just taken it to its logical conclusion but the ideological credit is pure Shea.  | |||
" Whabiism is ISIS and its origins are Saudi Arabia not Iran. Indeed, but the interpretation of the Quran that says sacrificing yourself to kill the enemy is not suicide but is martyrdom when done in the name of jihad is pure Ayatollah Konhami from the Iran Iraq war when he used Iranian children to clear Iraqi minefields so his trained troops could advance without taking minefield casualties. that is where ISIS and all the rest get their suicide bombing inspiration from. The Wahhabi Sunnis have just taken it to its logical conclusion but the ideological credit is pure Shea. "Yes the origins of suicide bombings are shia.The origins of global jihad are pure whabiism from the kingdom.The hebdo attack is whabiism. 911 whabiism. So although iran may have come up with the concept of suicide bombing.The ideological reference is whabiism. | |||
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"Ah, Iran. Now there's an interesting subject area. Let's have a look at what women are forbidden to do in the Islamic Republic of Iran...just a very short list: 1. Women are prohibited from taking selfies with soccer players. Specifically, Iran’s “moral committee” has banned women from taking selfies with famous soccer players. 2. Iranian women are prohibited from riding bicycles. Iran’s Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, recently issued an Islamic fatwa regarding officially banning women from riding bicycles. He argued that “riding bicycles often attracts the attention of men and exposes the society to corruption, and thus contravenes women’s chastity, and it must be abandoned,” according to Iran’s state-run media. 3. Coffee shops are prohibited from hiring women. According to Iran’s police, women are banned from working in any cafés. 4. Iranian Muslim women cannot marry non-Muslim men. But Iranian Muslim men can marry non-Muslim women. 5. It is forbidden for women to wear boots over their pants. (Why? I am not sure what is Iran’s Islamic logic behind this.) 6. Women are not allowed to wear hats instead of veils to cover their hair. 7. Women are not allowed to wear tight clothes that show their body curves. 8. Women are prohibited from wearing tight clothes for swimming. 9. Women are forbidden from changing their religion or criticizing Muhammad, Allah, the Supreme Leader and other Muslim leaders. 10. Women are prohibited from entering sport stadiums and watching men’s sports. 11. In Iran, buses and subways are divided in two sections. The larger front section is for men, the smaller back section is for women. Women are prohibited from entering the men’s section even if there are no seats left in the back and there are plenty of empty seats in front of the bus. 12. According to Iran’s moral police, women are banned from wearing leggings. 13. Women are prohibited from showing strands of their hair on any side. Article 683 states: “Those women that appear in the streets and public places without the Islamic hijab, shall be sentenced from ten days to two months’ imprisonment or fined from fifty thousand to five hundred thousand Rials.” 14. Women are banned from going camping with men. 15. Any kind of contraceptive surgery is not allowed for women. 16. Women are banned from entering coffeehouses or smoking hookah. 17. Women are not allowed to initiate divorce. Men have the right to do so. 18. According to Iran’s family code, women cannot travel abroad except with the permission of their custodian or natural guardian (husband, father, etc.). They also cannot obtain a passport without the consent of their husbands. 19. Women are banned from wearing clothes with writing on them. 20. Women are banned from taking their hijab off in any sport event, including in the Olympics. 21. Iranian women are prohibited from pursuing education in some academic fields. Iranian regime’s oil minister argued that “education of women in the field of operations such as drilling and processing and so on that require (physical) activities in operational areas and sites is useless and these are masculine (men’s) jobs.” 22. Women are not allowed to work in any occupation if their husband disagrees with it. Article 1105 of the Civil Code states, “In relations between husband and wife, the position of the head of the family exclusively belongs to the husband.” In addition, when it comes to employment laws, Article 1117 of the Civil Code indicates, “The husband can prevent his wife from an occupation or technical profession which is incompatible with the family’s interests or the dignity of him or his wife.” 23. Women are banned from receiving the same amount of inheritance as their male relatives. Even if a husband dies, the wife will receive only one-eighth of the inheritance if she has a child. 24. Women are forbidden from having any physical contact with men, including shaking hands. 25. Women are banned from becoming a Supreme Leader. 26. Girls, as young as 9 years old, are not allowed to object to their parents decision to marry them off. 27. Women are not allowed to object to their husband’s requests for sex. The law of Tamkin means women’s submission, obedience, full accessibility and unhampered sexual availability to her husband. Sexual availability is considered a woman’s duty and a man’s right. 28. Women are not allowed to bring lawsuits if they are raped, unless they have four witnesses. 29. Women are banned from socializing or dating men. 30. Women are banned from attracting attention in public through “flamboyant behavior” such as laughing loudly. 31. Women are not allowed to show any part of their skin except the face. It is encouraged to cover the face as well. 32. Women are not allowed to have any kind of alcoholic drinks. 33. Women are not allowed to dance. 34. Women are forbidden from being lesbian. Sex between two women is adultery and the punishments range from stoning to execution. 35. Women are banned from listening to “forbidden” music. 36. Women are not allowed to have pets, such as a dog. 37. Women are banned from adopting except if they have a husband and he agrees to do so. 38. Women are prohibited from gambling in any kind of event. 39. Women are banned from having sex or marrying a man up to five or six months after their divorce. 40. Women are prohibited from having tattoos. 41. Women are not allowed to have premarital relationships with men. 42. In many of Iran’s provinces, women are banned from performing music on stage. 43. Women are banned from being judges. 44. Women are banned from striking their husband, but men are allowed to do so in some circumstances. 45. Women are not allowed to show their jewelry in public. " Yet the leftie liberals stick up for Islam !!! Why ? | |||
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"" Iran is the inspiration and originator of the suicide bomber. " As a point of fact that was the Japanese Kamikaze pilots of WW2 or with a slightly different perspective the Tamil Tigers. Nut jobs are nut jobs irrespective or religion or geography." . Do you know why the Japanese started to kamikaze campaign?. They didn't have enough fuel for return trips | |||
" Yet the leftie liberals stick up for Islam !!! Why ?" Here's a leftie liberal opinion but he dresses funny, talks funny and looks funny so best to ignore him or better still proclaim his stupidity at high volume. Bloody foreigner. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57e17038e4b0071a6e09d2cb/amp | |||
"" Do you know why the Japanese started to kamikaze campaign?. They didn't have enough fuel for return trips "The future of Ryanair?  | |||
"" Do you know why the Japanese started to kamikaze campaign?. They didn't have enough fuel for return trips
The future of Ryanair? ". I can only hope!. | |||
"..Hmmm met some wonderful Iranian people who are very westernised and Muslim...I see a lot of discrimination on here...Personally some of you in the above comments I find very narrow minded . Thier are bigger threats than you think and poverty is and class is one way to control people . " Well now. As you've read the comments above you've obviously seen the 45 things women in Iran are forbidden to do, and yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? You must approve of their second class/slave status. And knowing Iran so well you also obviously know of the persecution of the members of the Bahai faith in Iran since 1980 which includes numerous accounts of torture and murder by the Iranian secret police and Revolutionary Guard, bar to education...why it bears a striking comparison to how the Nazis treated the Jews (the subsequent exodus explains why the US now has the largest Bahai population outside of Iran.) And yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? Not only that...you actually have the nerve to accuse the fascist regime's critics of "discrimination" and "narrow-mindedness"!? I find your politically correct silence (along with others here on this website) and eagerness to attack critics of fascist regimes deplorable and it reminds me very much of Martin Niemöller's famous poem. | |||
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"..Hmmm met some wonderful Iranian people who are very westernised and Muslim...I see a lot of discrimination on here...Personally some of you in the above comments I find very narrow minded . Thier are bigger threats than you think and poverty is and class is one way to control people . Well now. As you've read the comments above you've obviously seen the 45 things women in Iran are forbidden to do, and yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? You must approve of their second class/slave status. And knowing Iran so well you also obviously know of the persecution of the members of the Bahai faith in Iran since 1980 which includes numerous accounts of torture and murder by the Iranian secret police and Revolutionary Guard, bar to education...why it bears a striking comparison to how the Nazis treated the Jews (the subsequent exodus explains why the US now has the largest Bahai population outside of Iran.) And yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? Not only that...you actually have the nerve to accuse the fascist regime's critics of "discrimination" and "narrow-mindedness"!? I find your politically correct silence (along with others here on this website) and eagerness to attack critics of fascist regimes deplorable and it reminds me very much of Martin Niemöller's famous poem. " Chill dude Women get prosecuted by many religons and cultures.There is a whole caste system in India that is embeded .Ive met great Iranians great Indians even some nice Americans.Ypu can also meet dome fuckwits in ail cultures. Thr world doesn't moved forward in unison. For example New zealand gave women the right to vote in 1893 .The USA 1920 .The UK 1928.France 1944.Iran 1963.Saudi arabia 2011. | |||
"It's hilarious when a bunch of people get together to talk about subjects they don't understand, haven't done any research on, don't have any historical context for and think sweeping generalisations are a substitute for knowledge and facts. Carry on "ohh look at you on your high horse looking down on anyone with a different view/opinion as yourself as if you understand and have researched and have all the knowkedge and facts. coming from some of your posts yesterday (which yes was foolish) id say you was as clueless as the rest of us if thats the case. | |||
" Ypu can also meet dome fuckwits in ail cultures. " You said it. | |||
" Well now. As you've read the comments above you've obviously seen the 45 things women in Iran are forbidden to do, and yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? You must approve of their second class/slave status. And knowing Iran so well you also obviously know of the persecution of the members of the Bahai faith in Iran since 1980 which includes numerous accounts of torture and murder by the Iranian secret police and Revolutionary Guard, bar to education...why it bears a striking comparison to how the Nazis treated the Jews (the subsequent exodus explains why the US now has the largest Bahai population outside of Iran.) And yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? Not only that...you actually have the nerve to accuse the fascist regime's critics of "discrimination" and "narrow-mindedness"!? I find your politically correct silence (along with others here on this website) and eagerness to attack critics of fascist regimes deplorable and it reminds me very much of Martin Niemöller's famous poem. " Who here has said that Iran has a great government? Do you not think that you are condemning a people and a religion for the actions of a few people? Iran has three parallel governments. A civilian administration with all of the normal politics both national and international. A religious thocracy that imposes and enforces the laws which you are talking about and a military state in the form of the Republican Guard. They are all in a power struggle with each other too. As a nation they have the same paranoia as Russia or Israel in that they feel threatened by powerful enemies so they lash out. That is geopolitics. It's what scared people do. They try to look strong. The population, as everywhere, is just the same as us. They want to get on with their lives, raise their families etc so they just do the best that they can. Given that context I'm not sure what your solution is or even your point as I think you have just listed obvious problems that nobody disagrees with. Could you clarify? | |||
" Well now. As you've read the comments above you've obviously seen the 45 things women in Iran are forbidden to do, and yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? You must approve of their second class/slave status. And knowing Iran so well you also obviously know of the persecution of the members of the Bahai faith in Iran since 1980 which includes numerous accounts of torture and murder by the Iranian secret police and Revolutionary Guard, bar to education...why it bears a striking comparison to how the Nazis treated the Jews (the subsequent exodus explains why the US now has the largest Bahai population outside of Iran.) And yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? Not only that...you actually have the nerve to accuse the fascist regime's critics of "discrimination" and "narrow-mindedness"!? I find your politically correct silence (along with others here on this website) and eagerness to attack critics of fascist regimes deplorable and it reminds me very much of Martin Niemöller's famous poem. Who here has said that Iran has a great government? Do you not think that you are condemning a people and a religion for the actions of a few people? Iran has three parallel governments. A civilian administration with all of the normal politics both national and international. A religious thocracy that imposes and enforces the laws which you are talking about and a military state in the form of the Republican Guard. They are all in a power struggle with each other too. As a nation they have the same paranoia as Russia or Israel in that they feel threatened by powerful enemies so they lash out. That is geopolitics. It's what scared people do. They try to look strong. The population, as everywhere, is just the same as us. They want to get on with their lives, raise their families etc so they just do the best that they can. Given that context I'm not sure what your solution is or even your point as I think you have just listed obvious problems that nobody disagrees with. Could you clarify?" And this person has done the reading. Another key factor in the Iranian puzzle is that Iran is not an Arab country, or a Russian country or a western country, it defines itself by being different to the models we are used to and kind of understand. A lot of the issues that the west has with Iran stem from a lack of understanding. Personally I'm more worried about the American evangelical right than I am about Iran. | |||
" Well now. As you've read the comments above you've obviously seen the 45 things women in Iran are forbidden to do, and yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? You must approve of their second class/slave status. And knowing Iran so well you also obviously know of the persecution of the members of the Bahai faith in Iran since 1980 which includes numerous accounts of torture and murder by the Iranian secret police and Revolutionary Guard, bar to education...why it bears a striking comparison to how the Nazis treated the Jews (the subsequent exodus explains why the US now has the largest Bahai population outside of Iran.) And yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? Not only that...you actually have the nerve to accuse the fascist regime's critics of "discrimination" and "narrow-mindedness"!? I find your politically correct silence (along with others here on this website) and eagerness to attack critics of fascist regimes deplorable and it reminds me very much of Martin Niemöller's famous poem. Who here has said that Iran has a great government? Do you not think that you are condemning a people and a religion for the actions of a few people? Iran has three parallel governments. A civilian administration with all of the normal politics both national and international. A religious thocracy that imposes and enforces the laws which you are talking about and a military state in the form of the Republican Guard. They are all in a power struggle with each other too. As a nation they have the same paranoia as Russia or Israel in that they feel threatened by powerful enemies so they lash out. That is geopolitics. It's what scared people do. They try to look strong. The population, as everywhere, is just the same as us. They want to get on with their lives, raise their families etc so they just do the best that they can. Given that context I'm not sure what your solution is or even your point as I think you have just listed obvious problems that nobody disagrees with. Could you clarify? And this person has done the reading. Another key factor in the Iranian puzzle is that Iran is not an Arab country, or a Russian country or a western country, it defines itself by being different to the models we are used to and kind of understand. A lot of the issues that the west has with Iran stem from a lack of understanding. Personally I'm more worried about the American evangelical right than I am about Iran. " It's Persia once a huge empire I belive ? | |||
" Well now. As you've read the comments above you've obviously seen the 45 things women in Iran are forbidden to do, and yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? You must approve of their second class/slave status. And knowing Iran so well you also obviously know of the persecution of the members of the Bahai faith in Iran since 1980 which includes numerous accounts of torture and murder by the Iranian secret police and Revolutionary Guard, bar to education...why it bears a striking comparison to how the Nazis treated the Jews (the subsequent exodus explains why the US now has the largest Bahai population outside of Iran.) And yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? Not only that...you actually have the nerve to accuse the fascist regime's critics of "discrimination" and "narrow-mindedness"!? I find your politically correct silence (along with others here on this website) and eagerness to attack critics of fascist regimes deplorable and it reminds me very much of Martin Niemöller's famous poem. Who here has said that Iran has a great government? Do you not think that you are condemning a people and a religion for the actions of a few people? Iran has three parallel governments. A civilian administration with all of the normal politics both national and international. A religious thocracy that imposes and enforces the laws which you are talking about and a military state in the form of the Republican Guard. They are all in a power struggle with each other too. As a nation they have the same paranoia as Russia or Israel in that they feel threatened by powerful enemies so they lash out. That is geopolitics. It's what scared people do. They try to look strong. The population, as everywhere, is just the same as us. They want to get on with their lives, raise their families etc so they just do the best that they can. Given that context I'm not sure what your solution is or even your point as I think you have just listed obvious problems that nobody disagrees with. Could you clarify? And this person has done the reading. Another key factor in the Iranian puzzle is that Iran is not an Arab country, or a Russian country or a western country, it defines itself by being different to the models we are used to and kind of understand. A lot of the issues that the west has with Iran stem from a lack of understanding. Personally I'm more worried about the American evangelical right than I am about Iran. It's Persia once a huge empire I belive ? " In order it's been Persian empire Selucid empire (semi helenistic) Parthian empire Sassanid empire Arab empire ( bits of) Mongol empire Persian again This covers about the last 3000 years. If you go earlier than this you are looking at the babylonians, and they run side by side with the pharaohs and the Jews. Each left their own culture and impacted areas such as belief and legislation. And in America they have the Westboro Baptist Church  | |||
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" Well now. As you've read the comments above you've obviously seen the 45 things women in Iran are forbidden to do, and yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? You must approve of their second class/slave status. And knowing Iran so well you also obviously know of the persecution of the members of the Bahai faith in Iran since 1980 which includes numerous accounts of torture and murder by the Iranian secret police and Revolutionary Guard, bar to education...why it bears a striking comparison to how the Nazis treated the Jews (the subsequent exodus explains why the US now has the largest Bahai population outside of Iran.) And yet YOU SAY NOTHING!? Not only that...you actually have the nerve to accuse the fascist regime's critics of "discrimination" and "narrow-mindedness"!? I find your politically correct silence (along with others here on this website) and eagerness to attack critics of fascist regimes deplorable and it reminds me very much of Martin Niemöller's famous poem. Who here has said that Iran has a great government? Do you not think that you are condemning a people and a religion for the actions of a few people? Iran has three parallel governments. A civilian administration with all of the normal politics both national and international. A religious thocracy that imposes and enforces the laws which you are talking about and a military state in the form of the Republican Guard. They are all in a power struggle with each other too. As a nation they have the same paranoia as Russia or Israel in that they feel threatened by powerful enemies so they lash out. That is geopolitics. It's what scared people do. They try to look strong. The population, as everywhere, is just the same as us. They want to get on with their lives, raise their families etc so they just do the best that they can. Given that context I'm not sure what your solution is or even your point as I think you have just listed obvious problems that nobody disagrees with. Could you clarify? And this person has done the reading. Another key factor in the Iranian puzzle is that Iran is not an Arab country, or a Russian country or a western country, it defines itself by being different to the models we are used to and kind of understand. A lot of the issues that the west has with Iran stem from a lack of understanding. Personally I'm more worried about the American evangelical right than I am about Iran. It's Persia once a huge empire I belive ? In order it's been Persian empire Selucid empire (semi helenistic) Parthian empire Sassanid empire Arab empire ( bits of) Mongol empire Persian again This covers about the last 3000 years. If you go earlier than this you are looking at the babylonians, and they run side by side with the pharaohs and the Jews. Each left their own culture and impacted areas such as belief and legislation. And in America they have the Westboro Baptist Church "Love it when someone is knowledgeable on here  Compliment not a Piss Take | |||
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"What happened to the Suited One ? Aberdimijad ?" He was voted out. | |||
"What happened to the Suited One ? Aberdimijad ? He was voted out." Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran advised him not to throw his hat into the ring and run for president in the 2017 election | |||
"It's hilarious when a bunch of people get together to talk about subjects they don't understand, haven't done any research on, don't have any historical context for and think sweeping generalisations are a substitute for knowledge and facts. Carry on ". I genuinely think that's the whole point of a discussion?. You can't expect to improve somebody's knowledge of a subject without taking part. | |||
"You go girl you know your history xx" If you click on reply and quote everyone will know who you are replying to | |||
"What happened to the Suited One ? Aberdimijad ?" The Iranian/British comedian Omid Djalili called him Amerdinnerjacket. | |||
"You go girl you know your history xx If you click on reply and quote everyone will know who you are replying to "Got it now lol new to this forum thing xx | |||
"What happened to the Suited One ? Aberdimijad ? He was voted out. Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader of Iran advised him not to throw his hat into the ring and run for president in the 2017 election " I was wrong. 2013 Dinner jacket had reached his two consecutive term limit. | |||
