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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?"
He may surprise us all! |
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?"
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!! |
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!! "
I'm always curious to learn what possible reason there is for anyone to be positive about Donald Trump. Can you explain? |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!!
I'm always curious to learn what possible reason there is for anyone to be positive about Donald Trump. Can you explain?"
He's clever, morally minded, level headed. Oh wait, he's the opposite of all that, he's a t#€t |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
Shut up"
Oh alright sorry "Mr I got my ass tickled by Donald trumps wig hair" |
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!!
I'm always curious to learn what possible reason there is for anyone to be positive about Donald Trump. Can you explain?
He's clever, morally minded, level headed. Oh wait, he's the opposite of all that, he's a t#€t"
But at least there's advisers, the Senate, Supreme Court, Laws etc to keep things in check a bit. He may say a few dumb things but money talks and the sun still rises. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!!
I'm always curious to learn what possible reason there is for anyone to be positive about Donald Trump. Can you explain?"
Donald trump is about progression, I know he comes across as stupid but got a lot of people to vote for him and every time there is a new president we all say the world is going to end or something bad is going to happen but it hasn't so far |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!!
I'm always curious to learn what possible reason there is for anyone to be positive about Donald Trump. Can you explain?
He's clever, morally minded, level headed. Oh wait, he's the opposite of all that, he's a t#€t
But at least there's advisers, the Senate, Supreme Court, Laws etc to keep things in check a bit. He may say a few dumb things but money talks and the sun still rises."
The g 8's and that where he has to answer fast hitting questions,that will be good entertainment |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
Shut up
Oh alright sorry "Mr I got my ass tickled by Donald trumps wig hair""
Perhaps if those who were against Trump or Brexit actually had bothered to discuss the issues rather than generalise his supporters as idiots or racists then maybe these shock events could have been avoided.
You just stick to your very mature insults, you and most of the left have caused this with your moronic attitudes |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!!
I'm always curious to learn what possible reason there is for anyone to be positive about Donald Trump. Can you explain?
Donald trump is about progression, I know he comes across as stupid but got a lot of people to vote for him and every time there is a new president we all say the world is going to end or something bad is going to happen but it hasn't so far "
As long as he doesn't progress too quick and 'murica ends up like "shyyyynnnaaa!!!!" |
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
Shut up
Oh alright sorry "Mr I got my ass tickled by Donald trumps wig hair"
Perhaps if those who were against Trump or Brexit actually had bothered to discuss the issues rather than generalise his supporters as idiots or racists then maybe these shock events could have been avoided.
You just stick to your very mature insults, you and most of the left have caused this with your moronic attitudes"
People did discuss it..
The issue was the bad choice the country was left with..
This last presidential election was nothing to do with politics and all to do with big bank accounts..
All the potentially good presidential hopefuls fell to the wayside because trump and Hilary went "all in" at the start, none of the others had a chance of financing their campaign against those two superpowers..
Fortunately or not, he is in power, let's see if the man can rise to the position he has been honoured with..
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As for brexit, that just seems to have lost its impetus, all the brexiteers seem to have lost their balls now that Europe don't want to play with Britain any more....
They now feel like the lonely kid wandering around the playground alone while all the other kids point and laugh..
Rash move on the uk's part? only time will tell.. |
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
Shut up
Oh alright sorry "Mr I got my ass tickled by Donald trumps wig hair"
Perhaps if those who were against Trump or Brexit actually had bothered to discuss the issues rather than generalise his supporters as idiots or racists then maybe these shock events could have been avoided.
You just stick to your very mature insults, you and most of the left have caused this with your moronic attitudes
People did discuss it..
The issue was the bad choice the country was left with..
This last presidential election was nothing to do with politics and all to do with big bank accounts..
All the potentially good presidential hopefuls fell to the wayside because trump and Hilary went "all in" at the start, none of the others had a chance of financing their campaign against those two superpowers..
Fortunately or not, he is in power, let's see if the man can rise to the position he has been honoured with..
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As for brexit, that just seems to have lost its impetus, all the brexiteers seem to have lost their balls now that Europe don't want to play with Britain any more....
They now feel like the lonely kid wandering around the playground alone while all the other kids point and laugh..
Rash move on the uk's part? only time will tell.."
I voted to stay but, the choice was made and the whole thing dragging on is getting tedious now. People voted lease for the wrong reasons without looking to the actual future |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Is there any facts you have on Trump without just shouting out personal insults ? Just wondering as you seem to be insulting the man, but you live in the UK and am wondering what your knowledge of American politics is. As someone who has family in the US, I can tell you, Obama did nothing for the American people and was more interested in his global image. The trade deals he had destroyed American states. If you argue these Americans are stupid, well, they became stupid under an Obama Government who had 10 years to educate them. Trump has enormous support within the Black and Hispanic community. The more hispanic immigrants who came into the US only meant lower and lower wages for the existing Hispanics. That's what Trump was adddressing while Obama just wanted more votes, similar to Blair's open immigration during his tenure.
As regards the Syria conflict, Putin went in and sorted it out quick smart. Europe needed a long war to boost their own economy, so whose really the tyrant ? Trump and Putin will now boost defence spending but not war. ISIS could have been wiped out long long ago but it was in Europe's interest to keep the war going. DISGUSTING. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Trump has enormous support within the Black and Hispanic community. "
Really? If that is the case, then why did did he only get about 11% of the Latino vote and 12% of the black vote? Is that 'enormous support?'? Just over 1 person in 10? I mean that seems higher in my mind that what I was expecting him to get, but certainly isn't by any stretch of the imagination 'enormous support'.
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Is there any facts you have on Trump without just shouting out personal insults ? Just wondering as you seem to be insulting the man, but you live in the UK and am wondering what your knowledge of American politics is. As someone who has family in the US, I can tell you, Obama did nothing for the American people and was more interested in his global image. The trade deals he had destroyed American states. If you argue these Americans are stupid, well, they became stupid under an Obama Government who had 10 years to educate them. Trump has enormous support within the Black and Hispanic community. The more hispanic immigrants who came into the US only meant lower and lower wages for the existing Hispanics. That's what Trump was adddressing while Obama just wanted more votes, similar to Blair's open immigration during his tenure.
As regards the Syria conflict, Putin went in and sorted it out quick smart. Europe needed a long war to boost their own economy, so whose really the tyrant ? Trump and Putin will now boost defence spending but not war. ISIS could have been wiped out long long ago but it was in Europe's interest to keep the war going. DISGUSTING."
..well said. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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Its fashionable to say they didn't VOTE Trump, but they did. Same as when you ask people did they vote OUT and everyone says no. Ask a celebrity who they vote for and they say publicly Labour, yea right and lose all that money in Taxes, don't think so.
Obama did nothing for America and Obamacare is a TAX. No one in any country likes Taxes. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Its fashionable to say they didn't VOTE Trump, but they did. Same as when you ask people did they vote OUT and everyone says no. Ask a celebrity who they vote for and they say publicly Labour, yea right and lose all that money in Taxes, don't think so.
Obama did nothing for America and Obamacare is a TAX. No one in any country likes Taxes."
So you are saying that Latinos and Blacks are so embarrassed by their vote for Trump that only 1 in 10 of them would admit it? And somehow you call that 'enormous support'?
I'm a big far of Occam's Razor and going to just say that I think the real explanation is a lot simpler. That they just didn't vote for him.
-Matt |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"Its fashionable to say they didn't VOTE Trump, but they did. Same as when you ask people did they vote OUT and everyone says no. Ask a celebrity who they vote for and they say publicly Labour, yea right and lose all that money in Taxes, don't think so.
Obama did nothing for America and Obamacare is a TAX. No one in any country likes Taxes."
Obama actually did a shed load for America... the issue is for the last 6 of the 8 years a lot of what he wanted to propose was obstructed by the republican legislature....
Classic example of that was just a modicum of gun control after what happened at sandy hook
This of it like this... how much of the conservatives legislative programs do you think would become law if labour held a majority in the House of Lords and decided to use it to block law and reforms |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Its fashionable to say they didn't VOTE Trump, but they did. Same as when you ask people did they vote OUT and everyone says no. Ask a celebrity who they vote for and they say publicly Labour, yea right and lose all that money in Taxes, don't think so.
Obama did nothing for America and Obamacare is a TAX. No one in any country likes Taxes.
So you are saying that Latinos and Blacks are so embarrassed by their vote for Trump that only 1 in 10 of them would admit it? And somehow you call that 'enormous support'?
I'm a big far of Occam's Razor and going to just say that I think the real explanation is a lot simpler. That they just didn't vote for him.
-Matt"
so who did? And how come more women voted for the 'misogynist' Trump than for Obama |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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We Will see 2018... because the one thing congress and senate will do is put a lot of checks on his power....
He is going to have a hell of a fight getting some of his proposed cabinet selections thru congress.... AG is going to be a huge scrap.... so is Secretary of State with his Russian ties....the bloke going into environment is a known climate change denier, the lady going into education wants to scrap all national programs
Some will fly thru...for example even though I don't like the pick... general Flynn at defence, Nikki Haley going to the UN is not a bad decision, Linda McMahon at small business, Ben Carson at urban development
Wilbur Ross at trade should be interesting because he is known to loathe free trade agreements |
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By (user no longer on site)
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So, what did Obama do and if he did so good, why wouldn't Americans follow on with Hilary, someone OBAMA told Americans to vote for ?
What did he do for the rust belts ? Having Lady GAGA and JAY Z telling a hard working American or out of work steel worker to carry on voting Democrats was insane and totally out of touch with the REAL AMERICA.
As for counting the votes, hmmmmm wonder how they get that stat when voting is a private issue. If you say that stat is true, then you're saying people who voted Obama last election voted Trump the next....WHY if he did so much for America. He was useless. Did nothing for Americans and was far more interested in his own global image. You telling me he couldn't stop ISIS within 6 months rather than sending more and more troops over there over years and years. C'mon Man. AMERICA WITH THEIR WEAPONS against an army of mainly untrained uneducated mercenaries PLEASE. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"So, what did Obama do and if he did so good, why wouldn't Americans follow on with Hilary, someone OBAMA told Americans to vote for ?
What did he do for the rust belts ? Having Lady GAGA and JAY Z telling a hard working American or out of work steel worker to carry on voting Democrats was insane and totally out of touch with the REAL AMERICA.
As for counting the votes, hmmmmm wonder how they get that stat when voting is a private issue. If you say that stat is true, then you're saying people who voted Obama last election voted Trump the next....WHY if he did so much for America. He was useless. Did nothing for Americans and was far more interested in his own global image. You telling me he couldn't stop ISIS within 6 months rather than sending more and more troops over there over years and years. C'mon Man. AMERICA WITH THEIR WEAPONS against an army of mainly untrained uneducated mercenaries PLEASE."
What did Obama do for America? You mean apart from presiding over the longest stretch of jobs growth on record? Apart from unemployed down to 5%. Budget deficit down by 3/4 and one of the longest streaks of economic growth?
Ok, so borrowing is up and not everything is rosy. But I think saying he has done nothing is pretty disingenuous.
As for why people didn't vote from Clinton (apart from they did) maybe because for some reason they were more concerned with the contents of her mail server. I don't know. But again, whether people voted for her or Trump does not alter the facts of what Obama has done.
-Matt |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Obama will carry on with his hard work...on the golf course! The lame duck should do the decent thing and fuck off now."
More classy argument here mate!
I assume this is sarcastic or something? Because, naturally, you know that Obama can't actually "fuck off now", can he?
I assume you're aware that there is a timetable for this set in the US constitution? |
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"So, what did Obama do and if he did so good, why wouldn't Americans follow on with Hilary, someone OBAMA told Americans to vote for ?
What did he do for the rust belts ? Having Lady GAGA and JAY Z telling a hard working American or out of work steel worker to carry on voting Democrats was insane and totally out of touch with the REAL AMERICA.
As for counting the votes, hmmmmm wonder how they get that stat when voting is a private issue. If you say that stat is true, then you're saying people who voted Obama last election voted Trump the next....WHY if he did so much for America. He was useless. Did nothing for Americans and was far more interested in his own global image. You telling me he couldn't stop ISIS within 6 months rather than sending more and more troops over there over years and years. C'mon Man. AMERICA WITH THEIR WEAPONS against an army of mainly untrained uneducated mercenaries PLEASE.
What did Obama do for America? You mean apart from presiding over the longest stretch of jobs growth on record? Apart from unemployed down to 5%. Budget deficit down by 3/4 and one of the longest streaks of economic growth?
Ok, so borrowing is up and not everything is rosy. But I think saying he has done nothing is pretty disingenuous.
As for why people didn't vote from Clinton (apart from they did) maybe because for some reason they were more concerned with the contents of her mail server. I don't know. But again, whether people voted for her or Trump does not alter the facts of what Obama has done.
-Matt"
This is the problem. Spew out stats that do not ring true. Americans would not have voted Trump if life was so good under Obama. They switched as they simply had enough of promises but no action. Good for Trump for looking after his country first. Countries leaders need to look after their own first in similar vein to how we look after those closet tonus before others. Rust belt America needed saving and the uncontrolled illegal immigration was only reducing the already low wages low skilled hard working immigrants were already getting. Obama did NOTHING. That's why Hilary lost. |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"So, what did Obama do and if he did so good, why wouldn't Americans follow on with Hilary, someone OBAMA told Americans to vote for ?
What did he do for the rust belts ? Having Lady GAGA and JAY Z telling a hard working American or out of work steel worker to carry on voting Democrats was insane and totally out of touch with the REAL AMERICA.
As for counting the votes, hmmmmm wonder how they get that stat when voting is a private issue. If you say that stat is true, then you're saying people who voted Obama last election voted Trump the next....WHY if he did so much for America. He was useless. Did nothing for Americans and was far more interested in his own global image. You telling me he couldn't stop ISIS within 6 months rather than sending more and more troops over there over years and years. C'mon Man. AMERICA WITH THEIR WEAPONS against an army of mainly untrained uneducated mercenaries PLEASE."
You completely misunderstand what Isis is all about, you think the army they have put out in Syria is the REAL danger that they pose as a cult?
Isis are not an army, they are a belief, look at Nice...Berlin...Paris....
Small cells and lone wolfs, The US government of Obama recognises this fact, even if you (and Donald) fail to understand it. |
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By (user no longer on site)
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we just don't agree but tell me, what ideology does it stem from ?
How come the same religion their beliefs stem from, the followers of this faith would rather attack someone for drawing a cartoon but not as much as lift a finger for a acid attack in an honour attack ! |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"This is the problem. Spew out stats that do not ring true. Americans would not have voted Trump if life was so good under Obama. They switched as they simply had enough of promises but no action. Good for Trump for looking after his country first. Countries leaders need to look after their own first in similar vein to how we look after those closet tonus before others. Rust belt America needed saving and the uncontrolled illegal immigration was only reducing the already low wages low skilled hard working immigrants were already getting. Obama did NOTHING. That's why Hilary lost."
"stats the do not ring true"? Do you mean you think those stats are not true? If not, what is not true about them? Or do you think they are true, but just don't believe in them somehow?
I agree that rust-belt America has been hurting and that they may have felt that they were not being listened to. Trump used that feeling very much to his advantage in the election and spun them a fairy tale that resonated very well with them. Just look at the various ways he has been spinning those small-time deals he's claimed to have been involved in, e.g. Carrier. He seizes on the sentiment and runs with it. illegal immigration is not reducing wages in the US. Moving jobs overseas is what is putting those people out of work, that and the fact that many of those jobs have been replaced via automation, efficiency and a change in the market.
If you live in a rural town and everyone there was employed by a single factory, or employer and that factory shuts down or goes bust then you are going to be out of work. And if you are trained to do that job, then you can't just switch. It's not like you can retrain to be something else as those jobs are likely already taken. As one article I read put it, until the town doctor dies or retires there is no need for others to train to be a doctor there. There just isn't the need for more doctors. So you are going to feel pretty despondent. And when Trump says "I'm going to bring jobs back" You like that, and you believe that. And you vote for that. Despite the fact that your job is unlikely to ever come back as the consumer want's whatever it was you made cheaper. Or the world has simply moved on and they don't need whatever it was you made.
-Matt |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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"we just don't agree but tell me, what ideology does it stem from ?
How come the same religion their beliefs stem from, the followers of this faith would rather attack someone for drawing a cartoon but not as much as lift a finger for a acid attack in an honour attack ! "
As an Indian, or someone of Indian descent, how do you _iew the many honour killings that occur annually in India.....and not carried out by Muslims? |
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By *anes HubbyCouple
over a year ago
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Trump will struggle to create jobs in the 'rust belt' as Americans wil not be prepared to work for the wages or under the conditions that workers in Asia do......it's not only affecting the US, it's a world wide problem that is very difficult to solve. |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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"Trump has enormous support within the Black and Hispanic community.
Really? If that is the case, then why did did he only get about 11% of the Latino vote and 12% of the black vote? Is that 'enormous support?'? Just over 1 person in 10? I mean that seems higher in my mind that what I was expecting him to get, but certainly isn't by any stretch of the imagination 'enormous support'.
-Matt"
A smaller proportion of voters in every key demographic voted for Clinton than they did for Obama. Particularly black and Hispanic, but also women and 18-29 y olds.
That is Obama's legacy. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Trump has enormous support within the Black and Hispanic community.
Really? If that is the case, then why did did he only get about 11% of the Latino vote and 12% of the black vote? Is that 'enormous support?'? Just over 1 person in 10? I mean that seems higher in my mind that what I was expecting him to get, but certainly isn't by any stretch of the imagination 'enormous support'.
-Matt
A smaller proportion of voters in every key demographic voted for Clinton than they did for Obama. Particularly black and Hispanic, but also women and 18-29 y olds.
That is Obama's legacy."
Ok. And how does that somehow relate 'enormous support' of Trump by hispanics and blacks?
Hint: it doesn't. He still only got a very small portion of their votes.
-Matt |
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"Obama will carry on with his hard work...on the golf course! The lame duck should do the decent thing and fuck off now.
Why is he a lame duck?
-Matt"
Why did the Russian embassy in the UK tweet a picture of a duck with the word "LAME" written on it addressed to Obama the other day? |
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
Derby |
"Trump has enormous support within the Black and Hispanic community.
Really? If that is the case, then why did did he only get about 11% of the Latino vote and 12% of the black vote? Is that 'enormous support?'? Just over 1 person in 10? I mean that seems higher in my mind that what I was expecting him to get, but certainly isn't by any stretch of the imagination 'enormous support'.
-Matt
A smaller proportion of voters in every key demographic voted for Clinton than they did for Obama. Particularly black and Hispanic, but also women and 18-29 y olds.
That is Obama's legacy.
Ok. And how does that somehow relate 'enormous support' of Trump by hispanics and blacks?
Hint: it doesn't. He still only got a very small portion of their votes.
-Matt"
I didn't say it did...
Just pointed out that Obama disenfranchised very many of the people the democrats should have been able to rely upon for their votes.
I have many friends in the USA, from all the key demographics .... Not one voted for Clinton, despite having voted for Obama previously. |
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"Just pointed out that Obama disenfranchised very many of the people the democrats should have been able to rely upon for their votes.
I have many friends in the USA, from all the key demographics .... Not one voted for Clinton, despite having voted for Obama previously. "
I find it funny how things get twisted...
Clinton got 2000000, that's 2 MILLION more votes than Trump, but somehow her vote collapsed.
Clinton has never been convicted of any wrongdoing, but somehow she is corrupt.
Trump has multiple business failures where he made $10's and $100's of millions out defrauding his workers and contractors and has outstanding judgements against him and boasts about sexually assaulting women, never paying taxes, tells his followers to beat hecklers up and asks the President of a hostile Foreign power to get his people to hack Clinton and the Democrats computers and he is Mr Clean and America's great hope.
And that's not all! Here we have a PM and media that labels the postal workers and their union as showing contempt for the British public because the threaten to strike over the cuts to their pensions and closure of post offices!
The world is going to shit! And many of those being shit on totally support the bastards who are burying them with it!
All I can say is WoW!  |
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"Just pointed out that Obama disenfranchised very many of the people the democrats should have been able to rely upon for their votes.
I have many friends in the USA, from all the key demographics .... Not one voted for Clinton, despite having voted for Obama previously.
I find it funny how things get twisted..."
Yeah me too.
How squealing Liberals can defend a 'glass ceiling' hypocrite who takes cash from countries which forbid women to drive, whip them if they who take off their masks in public and behead 'criminals' and/or regime opponents IN PUBLIC is really quite sickening.
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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago
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Clinton may have had 2 million more votes, but in 2012 the democrats had 5 million more votes than the republicans.
What Obama has done is turn the people that should have been voting democrat , to actually turn out and vote republican.
The democrats lost voter share in every key demographic...
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By *ty31Man
over a year ago
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Clinton may have had 2 million more votes, but in 2012 the democrats had 5 million more votes than the republicans.
What Obama has done is turn the people that should have been voting democrat , to actually turn out and vote republican.
The democrats lost voter share in every key demographic...
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I think much of that is down to disenfranchise with the perceived established political elite, a slower than expected recovery from recession, stagnant wage growth and increased threats to security. These issues appear to be affecting other countries (not just USA) and is reflected in "shock" poll results such as Brexit, Dutertes appointment as president of the Philippines and the increase in profile of right wing political parties in Europe |
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Fasten our seatbelts.......President Trump will beat any comedy show...no idea how to carry out even basic policy and is already trying to backtrack on some policies.....rednecks on other forums already talking impeachment ! lol How long till he blows his top n loses it big time ...Oh i see he had to unfollow some Kittens on twitter... the man is Basil Fawlty incarnate xx |
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"Fasten our seatbelts.......President Trump will beat any comedy show...no idea how to carry out even basic policy and is already trying to backtrack on some policies.....rednecks on other forums already talking impeachment ! lol How long till he blows his top n loses it big time ...Oh i see he had to unfollow some Kittens on twitter... the man is Basil Fawlty incarnate xx"
....so what would you of expected from a hilary presidency..no more corruption... No more bombing of innocent children and women in their own homelands..peace with Russia.
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By *oi_LucyCouple
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"Fasten our seatbelts.......President Trump will beat any comedy show...no idea how to carry out even basic policy and is already trying to backtrack on some policies.....rednecks on other forums already talking impeachment ! lol How long till he blows his top n loses it big time ...Oh i see he had to unfollow some Kittens on twitter... the man is Basil Fawlty incarnate xx....so what would you of expected from a hilary presidency..no more corruption... No more bombing of innocent children and women in their own homelands..peace with Russia."
Oh it was certainly not a great choice between the two... but it's kinda like saying "Do you want a kick in the bollocks, or dipped into a VAT of acid". I'd take the kick in the bollocks.
The main reason Trump is so pally with Russia is they are basically financing his whole operation in return for using him as a conduit to launder money into the USA.
Once the voters who voted for him realise that "drain the swamp" actually meant "build a bigger swamp" I'm hoping they'll see some sense.
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"Fasten our seatbelts.......President Trump will beat any comedy show...no idea how to carry out even basic policy and is already trying to backtrack on some policies.....rednecks on other forums already talking impeachment ! lol How long till he blows his top n loses it big time ...Oh i see he had to unfollow some Kittens on twitter... the man is Basil Fawlty incarnate xx....so what would you of expected from a hilary presidency..no more corruption... No more bombing of innocent children and women in their own homelands..peace with Russia.
Oh it was certainly not a great choice between the two... but it's kinda like saying "Do you want a kick in the bollocks, or dipped into a VAT of acid". I'd take the kick in the bollocks.
The main reason Trump is so pally with Russia is they are basically financing his whole operation in return for using him as a conduit to launder money into the USA.
Once the voters who voted for him realise that "drain the swamp" actually meant "build a bigger swamp" I'm hoping they'll see some sense.
-Matt"
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!! "
Uhhmmm No. He is a serial brankrupter a vexatious litigator who will use the American legal system to benefit Donald Trump over and above any ethical or moral considerations.
In just under three weeks, the great betrayal of his core voters will begin. |
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!!
Uhhmmm No. He is a serial brankrupter a vexatious litigator who will use the American legal system to benefit Donald Trump over and above any ethical or moral considerations.
In just under three weeks, the great betrayal of his core voters will begin. "
....and if he doesn't betray his core voters and does a better job of running the country than the two previous war mongers...will you feel betrayed.? |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
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"Fasten our seatbelts.......President Trump will beat any comedy show...no idea how to carry out even basic policy and is already trying to backtrack on some policies.....rednecks on other forums already talking impeachment ! lol How long till he blows his top n loses it big time ...Oh i see he had to unfollow some Kittens on twitter... the man is Basil Fawlty incarnate xx....so what would you of expected from a hilary presidency..no more corruption... No more bombing of innocent children and women in their own homelands..peace with Russia.
Oh it was certainly not a great choice between the two... but it's kinda like saying "Do you want a kick in the bollocks, or dipped into a VAT of acid". I'd take the kick in the bollocks.
The main reason Trump is so pally with Russia is they are basically financing his whole operation in return for using him as a conduit to launder money into the USA.
Once the voters who voted for him realise that "drain the swamp" actually meant "build a bigger swamp" I'm hoping they'll see some sense.
-Matt...have you seen any evidence for your claim that the Russians are financing trump."
Have I seen the money first hand? No. There is vast amounts of information out there that points to it though... from so any angles... search for 'Yymoshenko Manafort' for starters. Also the startling number of times Trump has denied knowing various players in this, that it is then showed he had dealing with, such as Russian mobster Tokhtakhounov whom was his VIP guest at a Miss World event a few years back and whose illegal gambling ring ran out of Trump Tower. Likewise Russian born Felix Sater who's company Bayrock was also based in Trump tower and who used to advise Putin on Ukraine, then suddenly ended up on Trump's campaign advisory team.
There is so much it is mind-bending... just take a look at what Adam Khan has has been accumulating on Twitter (Khanoisseur). He has been trying to collate all the various evidence around the place.
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"Trumps plans working?
A more business friendly environment - FORD"
PMSL
Probably the best post-truth spin I think I've seen so far. Watch what the CEO *actually* said in the inter_iew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0SffqJjvRc
1) They were cancelling the new Mexico plant due to decrease in demand of the car they were going to originally build there
2) They will now build that car in their existing Mexico plant
3) That this has nothing to do with Trump
4) He said they would go ahead and do this anyway if Trump was not elected.
5) There was no quid-pro-quo with Trump, there was no negotiations with him
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As regards the Syria conflict, Putin went in and sorted it out quick smart. Europe needed a long war to boost their own economy, so whose really the tyrant ? Trump and Putin will now boost defence spending but not war. ISIS could have been wiped out long long ago but it was in Europe's interest to keep the war going. DISGUSTING."
Wow.. What drivel..
Nothing to do with the arms deals that putin has with the middle east and Africas tyrant leaders, selling outlawed weapons, including chemical to them..
The only reason Europe dragged their heels was the immense shit storm they saw would erupt if they got involved in a civil war backing a non elect political party to avoid an all out conflict with Russia..
It was a lose lose situation, so they took the only option, to apply sanctions and point out the war crimes committed by Putin and Assad against the Syrian civilians.
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"Trumps plans working?
A more business friendly environment - FORD
PMSL
Probably the best post-truth spin I think I've seen so far. Watch what the CEO *actually* said in the inter_iew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0SffqJjvRc
1) They were cancelling the new Mexico plant due to decrease in demand of the car they were going to originally build there
2) They will now build that car in their existing Mexico plant
3) That this has nothing to do with Trump
4) He said they would go ahead and do this anyway if Trump was not elected.
5) There was no quid-pro-quo with Trump, there was no negotiations with him
-Matt"
so he didn't *actually* say a more business friendly environment then? |
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"BTW, I'm not accusing you of the spin... Trump and most of the main stream news have done it. You've just simply believed and repeated it."
and you know more than the news eh |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!!
Uhhmmm No. He is a serial brankrupter a vexatious litigator who will use the American legal system to benefit Donald Trump over and above any ethical or moral considerations.
In just under three weeks, the great betrayal of his core voters will begin. ....and if he doesn't betray his core voters and does a better job of running the country than the two previous war mongers...will you feel betrayed.? "
Not at all. I a fairly sure that he will run true to form and support business by reducing Company Taxes which will be good for me. However, I also know from history that trickle down economics does not work and that is why his core will start to lose faith. The swamp will not be drained, it will become bigger and richer and Companies will become bigger and richer which I reckon will lead to another crash in 4-5 years time. Up until then, it will be a good time to have a profitable Company in the US.
Having an opinion about what you want to happen because it is good for the (a) country is one thing but considering all options and preparing selfishly for other outcomes is a different thing altogether. A Trump Oresidency will be good in the short term for me personally, but I will be re_iewing my mid term strategy as a result of his election because I don't think he will be good in the mid-long term. |
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"Fasten our seatbelts.......President Trump will beat any comedy show...no idea how to carry out even basic policy and is already trying to backtrack on some policies.....rednecks on other forums already talking impeachment ! lol How long till he blows his top n loses it big time ...Oh i see he had to unfollow some Kittens on twitter... the man is Basil Fawlty incarnate xx....so what would you of expected from a hilary presidency..no more corruption... No more bombing of innocent children and women in their own homelands..peace with Russia.
Oh it was certainly not a great choice between the two... but it's kinda like saying "Do you want a kick in the bollocks, or dipped into a VAT of acid". I'd take the kick in the bollocks.
The main reason Trump is so pally with Russia is they are basically financing his whole operation in return for using him as a conduit to launder money into the USA.
Once the voters who voted for him realise that "drain the swamp" actually meant "build a bigger swamp" I'm hoping they'll see some sense.
-Matt...have you seen any evidence for your claim that the Russians are financing trump.
Have I seen the money first hand? No. There is vast amounts of information out there that points to it though... from so any angles... search for 'Yymoshenko Manafort' for starters. Also the startling number of times Trump has denied knowing various players in this, that it is then showed he had dealing with, such as Russian mobster Tokhtakhounov whom was his VIP guest at a Miss World event a few years back and whose illegal gambling ring ran out of Trump Tower. Likewise Russian born Felix Sater who's company Bayrock was also based in Trump tower and who used to advise Putin on Ukraine, then suddenly ended up on Trump's campaign advisory team.
There is so much it is mind-bending... just take a look at what Adam Khan has has been accumulating on Twitter (Khanoisseur). He has been trying to collate all the various evidence around the place.
-Matt"
Or read Aleksander Dugin's book ( or a synopsis of it) and you will see Ukraine, Brexit, Trump, Syria, Iran, all mapped out in it.
Written in the 1990s,
Dugin is Putin's key foreign affairs advisor.
Putin is following his script. |
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!!
I'm always curious to learn what possible reason there is for anyone to be positive about Donald Trump. Can you explain?"
There is no reason. He should never have been allowed to get in the position but millions of people who think it's right to openly carry guns and hate and marginalise half the world voted for him. Stupid cousin fuckers lol |
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
No he'll be fine, he's a builder he'll build the country even though he comes across as stupid!!!
I'm always curious to learn what possible reason there is for anyone to be positive about Donald Trump. Can you explain?
Donald trump is about progression, I know he comes across as stupid but got a lot of people to vote for him and every time there is a new president we all say the world is going to end or something bad is going to happen but it hasn't so far "
He's really not about progression, he's about keeping things back in order to keep the rich (like him) rich. People think he has built the Trump brand but he took over his dad's company which was already huge. He's messed up so many deals and completely failed in so many areas it's a joke. America has been doing good things in renewable energy, for example, and Trump wants to get back to coal and oil because his party and he will get more money out of it. He's even talking about pulling out of the Paris agreement for climate change, crazy. Not to mention being a bully who created an atmosphere of hate and fear to scare people in to voting for him. Not good. |
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"Of course we will, he's going to shock you how well he will do!!!
What do you mean how well he Manages to further fuck the whole world up?
Shut up
Oh alright sorry "Mr I got my ass tickled by Donald trumps wig hair"
Perhaps if those who were against Trump or Brexit actually had bothered to discuss the issues rather than generalise his supporters as idiots or racists then maybe these shock events could have been avoided.
You just stick to your very mature insults, you and most of the left have caused this with your moronic attitudes"
Issues such as being prosecuted for racism, stuffing his employees, being prosecuted for fraud, misogyny? |
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A more business friendly environment - FORD
PMSL
Probably the best post-truth spin I think I've seen so far. Watch what the CEO *actually* said in the inter_iew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0SffqJjvRc
1) They were cancelling the new Mexico plant due to decrease in demand of the car they were going to originally build there
2) They will now build that car in their existing Mexico plant
3) That this has nothing to do with Trump
4) He said they would go ahead and do this anyway if Trump was not elected.
5) There was no quid-pro-quo with Trump, there was no negotiations with him
-Matt"
Nice little spin of your own there. No mention of the 4000 extra jobs Ford said they will be creating in America now and the billions extra investment they will be putting direct into Ford in America. |
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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago
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"Trumps plans working?
A more business friendly environment - FORD
PMSL
Probably the best post-truth spin I think I've seen so far. Watch what the CEO *actually* said in the inter_iew:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0SffqJjvRc
1) They were cancelling the new Mexico plant due to decrease in demand of the car they were going to originally build there
2) They will now build that car in their existing Mexico plant
3) That this has nothing to do with Trump
4) He said they would go ahead and do this anyway if Trump was not elected.
5) There was no quid-pro-quo with Trump, there was no negotiations with him
-Matt
Nice little spin of your own there. No mention of the 4000 extra jobs Ford said they will be creating in America now and the billions extra investment they will be putting direct into Ford in America. "
Sorry, you are right
- 4,000 extra jobs and billions of investment THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP.
That better?
Also bear in mind this is HALF the capital investment Ford were due to make before this announcement. So I'm guessing they are either a) feeling the pinch or b) being very business savvy and realising they can spend less on new plants and facilities and do as well/better than the original plan.
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I really don't know if America can hold itself together under trump!.
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The divides are so great and they've been held together for so long by a fine thread I genuinely worry for it...
This latest case is yet another symptom of society on the edge |
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"I really don't know if America can hold itself together under trump!.
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The divides are so great and they've been held together for so long by a fine thread I genuinely worry for it...
This latest case is yet another symptom of society on the edge"
....and not helped by their one sided media. |
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America has been moving to the right for sometime.The Republican party created the right atmosphere for someone like Trump to come to power.I think sometimes we need a trump like character, to take us to the precipice so we realise what we want or dont want. |
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"America has been moving to the right for sometime.The Republican party created the right atmosphere for someone like Trump to come to power.I think sometimes we need a trump like character, to take us to the precipice so we realise what we want or dont want."
or maybe Obama and Clinton created the right atmosphere? Haven't they been running things for the last 8 years?  |
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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago
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"America has been moving to the right for sometime.The Republican party created the right atmosphere for someone like Trump to come to power.I think sometimes we need a trump like character, to take us to the precipice so we realise what we want or dont want."
Much like the eu then |
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"America has been moving to the right for sometime.The Republican party created the right atmosphere for someone like Trump to come to power.I think sometimes we need a trump like character, to take us to the precipice so we realise what we want or dont want."
The Republican party didn't want Trump to win the Primaries. He was not the choice of the Republican party. The Republican party threw everything but the kitchen sink at Trump to try to stop him winning. The Republican party couldn't stop Trump and then the Democrat party couldn't stop Trump either. |
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"America has been moving to the right for sometime.The Republican party created the right atmosphere for someone like Trump to come to power.I think sometimes we need a trump like character, to take us to the precipice so we realise what we want or dont want.
The Republican party didn't want Trump to win the Primaries. He was not the choice of the Republican party. The Republican party threw everything but the kitchen sink at Trump to try to stop him winning. The Republican party couldn't stop Trump and then the Democrat party couldn't stop Trump either. "
True the Republican party doesnt want Trump.However they have been moving further to the right while obama was in power over the last 8 years.They opened Pandoras box of toxic politics of fear and resentment .Hes their bastard off spring. |
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"The Republican party couldn't stop Trump and then the Democrat party couldn't stop Trump either. "
Yep.
Absolutely right, but then neither the Republican or Democratic parties or for that matter the US people did not know that the Russian State was aiding Trump. Of course by extrapolation that makes the man about to become the US President a Russian agent and therefore a traitor. |
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"The Republican party couldn't stop Trump and then the Democrat party couldn't stop Trump either.
Yep.
Absolutely right, but then neither the Republican or Democratic parties or for that matter the US people did not know that the Russian State was aiding Trump. Of course by extrapolation that makes the man about to become the US President a Russian agent and therefore a traitor. "
Is there any proof that the ruskies hacked them ? sounds a bit like the losing team blaming the ref and if hilary used her server when she shouldnt have perhaps the us population should know |
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"The Republican party couldn't stop Trump and then the Democrat party couldn't stop Trump either.
Yep.
Absolutely right, but then neither the Republican or Democratic parties or for that matter the US people did not know that the Russian State was aiding Trump. Of course by extrapolation that makes the man about to become the US President a Russian agent and therefore a traitor.
Is there any proof that the ruskies hacked them ? sounds a bit like the losing team blaming the ref and if hilary used her server when she shouldnt have perhaps the us population should know "
The intelligence chief at the NSA will produce his evidence soon.I dont think the heads of the intelligence organisations are on any side they protect the country from all enemies foreign and domestic.But in a post truth age Donald can choose his truth.Foolishly considering who the intelligence agency's serve. |
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By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago
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"The Republican party couldn't stop Trump and then the Democrat party couldn't stop Trump either.
Yep.
Absolutely right, but then neither the Republican or Democratic parties or for that matter the US people did not know that the Russian State was aiding Trump. Of course by extrapolation that makes the man about to become the US President a Russian agent and therefore a traitor. "
Not sure about that but his Twitter comments yesterday putting the intelligence gathering value of Julian Assange over and above the CIA and FBI might have raised a few eyebrows. |
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"The Republican party couldn't stop Trump and then the Democrat party couldn't stop Trump either.
Yep.
Absolutely right, but then neither the Republican or Democratic parties or for that matter the US people did not know that the Russian State was aiding Trump. Of course by extrapolation that makes the man about to become the US President a Russian agent and therefore a traitor.
Not sure about that but his Twitter comments yesterday putting the intelligence gathering value of Julian Assange over and above the CIA and FBI might have raised a few eyebrows."
I believe trump knows the true source of hacks (probably given to him via wikileaks and assange).
Hence why trump said "i know stuff that people don't". (Regarding the hacks).
And he isn't about to say or do anything until he's president as to protect the person/persons on the inside that gave the info to wikikeaks as we all know what happens to whistle blowers under the current establishment.
Assange had a live hour inter_iew couple days ago with Sean hannity from the embassy (didn't see it on any UK main stream media, perhaps it was but i missed it) and he answered a question saying 1000% the source of the hacks was not Russian and i believe him and im glad trump does too. |
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"The Republican party couldn't stop Trump and then the Democrat party couldn't stop Trump either.
Yep.
Absolutely right, but then neither the Republican or Democratic parties or for that matter the US people did not know that the Russian State was aiding Trump. Of course by extrapolation that makes the man about to become the US President a Russian agent and therefore a traitor.
Is there any proof that the ruskies hacked them ? sounds a bit like the losing team blaming the ref and if hilary used her server when she shouldnt have perhaps the us population should know "
Why is it so hard to believe? The US has been influencing elections and other countries politics for years. South America, Cuba, Iraq, Libya and now Syria. |
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Assange had a live hour inter_iew couple days ago with Sean hannity from the embassy (didn't see it on any UK main stream media, perhaps it was but i missed it) and he answered a question saying 1000% the source of the hacks was not Russian and i believe him and im glad trump does too."
the words "sean hannity" and "objectivity" have never gone together... i wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being trumps press secretary....
you know your objectivity is bad when other "fox news" anchors and hosts call you out for lobbing softball questioning at the next pres.....
if assange truely believes that is the case, then on jan 21st he will walk out of the ecuadorian embassy... because the us wont ask for his extridition (they never have.. but his excuse is that sweden will hand him over.....) |
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Yep.
Absolutely right, but then neither the Republican or Democratic parties or for that matter the US people did not know that the Russian State was aiding Trump. Of course by extrapolation that makes the man about to become the US President a Russian agent and therefore a traitor.
Is there any proof that the ruskies hacked them ? sounds a bit like the losing team blaming the ref and if hilary used her server when she shouldnt have perhaps the us population should know "
Read a book by Alexander Dugin;
"The Foundations of Geopolitics: The Geopolitical Future of Russia".
Then you will see how and why Russia influenced the US elections; and a whole list of things that are currently happening.
Alexander Dugin is Putin's closest foreign policy advisor.
Russia is "following the script" on that book to the letter;
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So the Donald has now admitted that the CIA was right when it said the Russian government hacked the democratic servers. But apparently Donald the Fart cays it had no effect on the election and wants to know why the CIA and FBI did not also hack the democrats and leak what they found.
Only 2 weeks till he has the nuclear launch codes and control of the US Treasury.
Are we all ready for fart world? It could get smelly!
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What does it matter who leaked it or who hacked it... Is it true, that's all that matters.
If Russia had leaked what Edward Snowdon has or Bradley Manning would it have made a difference in the truth of the material leaked |
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"So the Donald has now admitted that the CIA was right when it said the Russian government hacked the democratic servers. But apparently Donald the Fart cays it had no effect on the election and wants to know why the CIA and FBI did not also hack the democrats and leak what they found.
Only 2 weeks till he has the nuclear launch codes and control of the US Treasury.
Are we all ready for fart world? It could get smelly!
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Not only Trump saying it had no effect on the election. The ex boss of the CIA just did an inter_iew on Newsnight on BBC 2 in the last half an hour. He said from the information he has it was Russia who did the hacking but it had no effect on the outcome of the election. |
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"What does it matter who leaked it or who hacked it... Is it true, that's all that matters.
If Russia had leaked what Edward Snowdon has or Bradley Manning would it have made a difference in the truth of the material leaked"
Of course it matters. Edward Snowdon and Bradley Manning are either principled men who stood up and revealed military wrongdoing or traitors who broke the oaths they took and endangered US lives. Either way that is an internal mater for the USA to deal with.
However If as is now looking increasingly lightly a hostile foreign power (Russia) have covertly influenced a US Presidential Election in order to remove someone hostile to them and install a puppet or dupe, that is an act of war. There can be no doubt there will be serious consequences in the USA and worldwide, they may not be immediate, in fact it may be 4 or 8 years before we learn the full cost of this interference but I expect that we in Europe will be feeling the cost sooner than many expect.
There is a reason why they say America sneezes and the world catches a cold. I think many are about to catch a fatal dose of Tzar Vlad's Russian flu thanks to the likes of Trump Farage and La Penn. |
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