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"Millhouse? I'd have gone with Nelson Muntz or Ralph Wiggum. Probably Ralph.... 'I bent my Wookie'...." I thought Nelson too! | |||
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"Be fair. Not all Trump voters are motivated by stupidity. Some are racist, bitter and misogynists too." Shush, we'll get relegated to the Politics board. | |||
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"Be fair. Not all Trump voters are motivated by stupidity. Some are racist, bitter and misogynists too." Absolutely! God help Obama and Clinton! | |||
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"Be fair. Not all Trump voters are motivated by stupidity. Some are racist, bitter and misogynists too." That's so comforting to know xx | |||
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"Be fair. Not all Trump voters are motivated by stupidity. Some are racist, bitter and misogynists too." Yup. And then we'll have to deal with a nation whinging about being discriminated against, with corporate America ruling making everyone's lives miserable. Oh and the impending doom of war. I can't believe people have been so stupid. | |||
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"Can we now call the US Trumpton? " Great American Trumpton is probably on the cards. They have to use great after all the #MAGA but we know he likes his name on everything. | |||
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"Meh - we voted for Brexit (and Farage by association) so aren't much better." At least we haven't made the stupidest political decision of 2016 now... | |||
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"Can we now call the US Trumpton? " Was Windy Miller in that? Very appropriate if he was. | |||
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"I blame Claudio Ranieri of Leicester City for all this, setting the trend for making the Impossible Possible " Would of been a hell of a treble a year ago | |||
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"I blame Claudio Ranieri of Leicester City for all this, setting the trend for making the Impossible Possible Would of been a hell of a treble a year ago" Coral was quoting 15mil from a 5 quid bet | |||
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"Meh - we voted for Brexit (and Farage by association) so aren't much better. At least we haven't made the stupidest political decision of 2016 now... " | |||
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"I blame Claudio Ranieri of Leicester City for all this, setting the trend for making the Impossible Possible " Hey don't blame King Ranieri ! | |||
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"Be fair. Not all Trump voters are motivated by stupidity. Some are racist, bitter and misogynists too." | |||
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"Meh - we voted for Brexit (and Farage by association) so aren't much better." | |||
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"Be fair. Not all Trump voters are motivated by stupidity. Some are racist, bitter and misogynists too. " | |||
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"I blame Claudio Ranieri of Leicester City for all this, setting the trend for making the Impossible Possible Hey don't blame King Ranieri !" He started everything off | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter " They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? | |||
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"Meh - we voted for Brexit (and Farage by association) so aren't much better. At least we haven't made the stupidest political decision of 2016 now... " | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter " Like the forums then | |||
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"Can we now call the US Trumpton? Was Windy Miller in that? Very appropriate if he was." Camberwick Green | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own?" of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . " Hitler already? It's the 39th post. | |||
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"It's worse than that." I lost a bet. Now I have to fuck someone. | |||
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"Officially the closest the most powerful nation have ever come to electing "millhouse" from the Simpsons as President. Historians for years to come will wonder how the fuck we didn't see WWIII coming. Shits about to get interesting folks. " A bit patronising . People have made their choice . They can hardly be deemed to be stupid I think he runs a very successful business. This can be put to good use when running the country . Voters voted for what is best for the long term interesto of the USA. Congratulations to him and we'll done on a very successful campaign. I prefer to admire those who achieve success, not criticise them. | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . Hitler already? It's the 39th post." I doubt your a stupid man lib so my guess is you are fully aware that if you label people you alienate them which leads to trouble . where as if your inclusive you bring people together which forms a sense of we are all in this together so lets solve our problems together. that's man management one oh one and I good way to achieve success in fact its the only way to achieve success in the long run . | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . Hitler already? It's the 39th post." It really kicked off in '39. Trump is on record as saying he would look at shutting off the internet as a way of stopping IS so we better be careful what we say as he'll lock down Fab too. | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . " I worry what he stands for and that like Farage, people believe in something that won't materialise. Did you see his speech just? It wasn't exactly well delivered or reaching out to the other camp. | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . Hitler already? It's the 39th post. I doubt your a stupid man lib so my guess is you are fully aware that if you label people you alienate them which leads to trouble . where as if your inclusive you bring people together which forms a sense of we are all in this together so lets solve our problems together. that's man management one oh one and I good way to achieve success in fact its the only way to achieve success in the long run . " Why did you right 101 as one oh one? Just curious | |||
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"Officially the closest the most powerful nation have ever come to electing "millhouse" from the Simpsons as President. Historians for years to come will wonder how the fuck we didn't see WWIII coming. Shits about to get interesting folks. A bit patronising . People have made their choice . They can hardly be deemed to be stupid I think he runs a very successful business. This can be put to good use when running the country . Voters voted for what is best for the long term interesto of the USA. Congratulations to him and we'll done on a very successful campaign. I prefer to admire those who achieve success, not criticise them. " Does it matter what one does to achieve that success or do you just admire regardless? | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . I worry what he stands for and that like Farage, people believe in something that won't materialise. Did you see his speech just? It wasn't exactly well delivered or reaching out to the other camp. " hes a business man he maybe as thick as two planks for all I know but one things for sure he will utilise the best out there to deliver the results he wants, because that what business men or woman do they surround themselves with people who can do that's why they are successful in the first place . | |||
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"Great that Trump stuffed crooked Clinton" | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . I worry what he stands for and that like Farage, people believe in something that won't materialise. Did you see his speech just? It wasn't exactly well delivered or reaching out to the other camp. hes a business man he maybe as thick as two planks for all I know but one things for sure he will utilise the best out there to deliver the results he wants, because that what business men or woman do they surround themselves with people who can do that's why they are successful in the first place ." | |||
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"Officially the closest the most powerful nation have ever come to electing "millhouse" from the Simpsons as President. Historians for years to come will wonder how the fuck we didn't see WWIII coming. Shits about to get interesting folks. " Only stupid in your opinion. I'm glad they've elected him rather then a career politician who's done no end to line her own pockets. | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . " As the first person to mention Hitler in a thread you automatically lose. Those are the rules | |||
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"Officially the closest the most powerful nation have ever come to electing "millhouse" from the Simpsons as President. Historians for years to come will wonder how the fuck we didn't see WWIII coming. Shits about to get interesting folks. Only stupid in your opinion. I'm glad they've elected him rather then a career politician who's done no end to line her own pockets." Totally agree | |||
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" I think he runs a very successful business. This can be put to good use when running the country . " This is EXACTLY what makes Trump dangerous. Running a business is NOT the same as running the most powerful nation on the planet. You cannot say and act the way you would as a CEO of a company when you're president of the United States. Trump is dangerous because he DOESN'T know the difference. He doesn't know that business behaviour and Presidential behaviour are two completely different things. As he's demonstrated the entire campaign with word-vomit that's come out of his mouth. | |||
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"It's quite idiotic to generalise all Americans as stupid, this is what happens in democracy. People who don't know what they're voting for are given the right to vote, and it won't be world war 3. As much as I hated hearing Trump won, and he probably will ruin things, but let's not get over dramatic. Hopefully it won't be just him and his 'politics' running things" Not all Americans. Just the majority of their voters. But we already knew that after they elected Bush. Twice! | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . Hitler already? It's the 39th post. I doubt your a stupid man lib so my guess is you are fully aware that if you label people you alienate them which leads to trouble . where as if your inclusive you bring people together which forms a sense of we are all in this together so lets solve our problems together. that's man management one oh one and I good way to achieve success in fact its the only way to achieve success in the long run . Why did you right 101 as one oh one? Just curious" its a brain thing fella I don't think like others don't worry about it I don't | |||
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"It's quite idiotic to generalise all Americans as stupid, this is what happens in democracy. People who don't know what they're voting for are given the right to vote, and it won't be world war 3. As much as I hated hearing Trump won, and he probably will ruin things, but let's not get over dramatic. Hopefully it won't be just him and his 'politics' running things Not all Americans. Just the majority of their voters. But we already knew that after they elected Bush. Twice!" You can't blame the public, when you're getting false promises and lies forced down your neck everywhere you turn, you can't blame them for having a little hope. But yeah, a bad move on their part | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . As the first person to mention Hitler in a thread you automatically lose. Those are the rules" | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter They're opinions, aren't we all entitled to our own? of coarse you are but when you start calling large groups of people stupid bigoted what ever .you are breeding a them against us mentality that was the same mentality need I need to remind any one that allowed a mad man named Adolf Hitler to come to power and murder untold innocent people . As the first person to mention Hitler in a thread you automatically lose. Those are the rules" really I've broken some imaginary rule yippee fuck the imaginary rules I will do as a please | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter " I see no hypocrisy in consistently expressing the view that Trump voters (and brexit voters for that matter) contain a significant number of racists, misogynists and idiots within their midst. Where's the hypocrisy? Of course my opinion matters more to me, why on earth wouldn't it? | |||
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"Ah its good to see the same people who claimed it was the thick,old and racists that voted brexit are claiming the same group voted for trump,I am no fan of him BUT the irony of people who cant see calling people bigots by classing them as old, thick and racist is bigoted. Just remember that the US voted in ronnie reagan who was deemed a joke yet he was the man who suceeded in getting reductions in nukes by talking straight to the russians, we can all hope that trump can do the same by not being part of a corrupt leadership that only feathers their own nest and lets face it if clinton cant beat him when in the main the establishment has been on her side then she must be really hated in the states" if she had been a he.... then I doubt trump would have got in. X | |||
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"It's quite idiotic to generalise all Americans as stupid, this is what happens in democracy. People who don't know what they're voting for are given the right to vote, and it won't be world war 3. As much as I hated hearing Trump won, and he probably will ruin things, but let's not get over dramatic. Hopefully it won't be just him and his 'politics' running things Not all Americans. Just the majority of their voters. But we already knew that after they elected Bush. Twice! You can't blame the public, when you're getting false promises and lies forced down your neck everywhere you turn, you can't blame them for having a little hope. But yeah, a bad move on their part" I blame the public. I am a member of the public. I am an ordinary person. Donald and Nige might not think so, but I am a "decent" person. A hardworking person. I'm not an "elite", whatever the fuck that means now. And if I can see through the ludicrous, disingenuous populist rhetoric then I don't think it's asking too much of other people for them not to fall for it either. | |||
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" I think he runs a very successful business. This can be put to good use when running the country . This is EXACTLY what makes Trump dangerous. Running a business is NOT the same as running the most powerful nation on the planet. You cannot say and act the way you would as a CEO of a company when you're president of the United States. Trump is dangerous because he DOESN'T know the difference. He doesn't know that business behaviour and Presidential behaviour are two completely different things. As he's demonstrated the entire campaign with word-vomit that's come out of his mouth." Businesses are run to make someone/s rich. Countries, although needing money to function, should be run for the good of the people. | |||
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"Ah its good to see the same people who claimed it was the thick,old and racists that voted brexit are claiming the same group voted for trump,I am no fan of him BUT the irony of people who cant see calling people bigots by classing them as old, thick and racist is bigoted. Just remember that the US voted in ronnie reagan who was deemed a joke yet he was the man who suceeded in getting reductions in nukes by talking straight to the russians, we can all hope that trump can do the same by not being part of a corrupt leadership that only feathers their own nest and lets face it if clinton cant beat him when in the main the establishment has been on her side then she must be really hated in the states" Plus I'd like to congratulate the American people rather than insult them as some have done on this thread. | |||
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"It's quite idiotic to generalise all Americans as stupid, this is what happens in democracy. People who don't know what they're voting for are given the right to vote, and it won't be world war 3. As much as I hated hearing Trump won, and he probably will ruin things, but let's not get over dramatic. Hopefully it won't be just him and his 'politics' running things Not all Americans. Just the majority of their voters. But we already knew that after they elected Bush. Twice! You can't blame the public, when you're getting false promises and lies forced down your neck everywhere you turn, you can't blame them for having a little hope. But yeah, a bad move on their part I blame the public. I am a member of the public. I am an ordinary person. Donald and Nige might not think so, but I am a "decent" person. A hardworking person. I'm not an "elite", whatever the fuck that means now. And if I can see through the ludicrous, disingenuous populist rhetoric then I don't think it's asking too much of other people for them not to fall for it either. " I'd love for people not to fall for it, but unfortunately they do, and they always will, and politicians (and Trump) know it. Personally I think that he shouldn't even be allowed to run in the first place. I'm just a regular average working citizen, but when people are offered two plates of crap, it really limits their choices | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter I see no hypocrisy in consistently expressing the view that Trump voters (and brexit voters for that matter) contain a significant number of racists, misogynists and idiots within their midst. Where's the hypocrisy? Of course my opinion matters more to me, why on earth wouldn't it?" Maybe those who voted for trump and brexit would say that it is those who voted aginst both are the idiots and have fallen for the hype of the establishment self interest, who makes you and the others that agree with you correct and the clever ones, there are always two sides and different opinions, neither has the monopoly on being right but calling the other side names means you have lost the argument,if clinton and remain were soright why didnt they improve their argument to convince people ? | |||
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"Ah its good to see the same people who claimed it was the thick,old and racists that voted brexit are claiming the same group voted for trump,I am no fan of him BUT the irony of people who cant see calling people bigots by classing them as old, thick and racist is bigoted. Just remember that the US voted in ronnie reagan who was deemed a joke yet he was the man who suceeded in getting reductions in nukes by talking straight to the russians, we can all hope that trump can do the same by not being part of a corrupt leadership that only feathers their own nest and lets face it if clinton cant beat him when in the main the establishment has been on her side then she must be really hated in the states if she had been a he.... then I doubt trump would have got in. X " That's very true; US society remains hugely mysogenistic, even many " moderate" Americans could not come to terms with a woman as president . | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter I see no hypocrisy in consistently expressing the view that Trump voters (and brexit voters for that matter) contain a significant number of racists, misogynists and idiots within their midst. Where's the hypocrisy? Of course my opinion matters more to me, why on earth wouldn't it? Maybe those who voted for trump and brexit would say that it is those who voted aginst both are the idiots and have fallen for the hype of the establishment self interest, who makes you and the others that agree with you correct and the clever ones, there are always two sides and different opinions, neither has the monopoly on being right but calling the other side names means you have lost the argument,if clinton and remain were soright why didnt they improve their argument to convince people ?" It's not name calling - they are descriptive terms for people who espouse those views. | |||
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"Ah its good to see the same people who claimed it was the thick,old and racists that voted brexit are claiming the same group voted for trump,I am no fan of him BUT the irony of people who cant see calling people bigots by classing them as old, thick and racist is bigoted. Just remember that the US voted in ronnie reagan who was deemed a joke yet he was the man who suceeded in getting reductions in nukes by talking straight to the russians, we can all hope that trump can do the same by not being part of a corrupt leadership that only feathers their own nest and lets face it if clinton cant beat him when in the main the establishment has been on her side then she must be really hated in the states if she had been a he.... then I doubt trump would have got in. X That's very true; US society remains hugely mysogenistic, even many " moderate" Americans could not come to terms with a woman as president ." . She lost against a black guy who had a Muslim father..... At least that makes them less racist than misogynist!. Blame the DNC they crow barred her in to the contest despite her having a shit record!. | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter I see no hypocrisy in consistently expressing the view that Trump voters (and brexit voters for that matter) contain a significant number of racists, misogynists and idiots within their midst. Where's the hypocrisy? Of course my opinion matters more to me, why on earth wouldn't it? Maybe those who voted for trump and brexit would say that it is those who voted aginst both are the idiots and have fallen for the hype of the establishment self interest, who makes you and the others that agree with you correct and the clever ones, there are always two sides and different opinions, neither has the monopoly on being right but calling the other side names means you have lost the argument,if clinton and remain were soright why didnt they improve their argument to convince people ? It's not name calling - they are descriptive terms for people who espouse those views. " Calling someone a racist and thick are meant as insults because "you" disagree with them, are you now saying that people cant hold views that dont aline with yours, what makes you right and them wrong ? | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter I see no hypocrisy in consistently expressing the view that Trump voters (and brexit voters for that matter) contain a significant number of racists, misogynists and idiots within their midst. Where's the hypocrisy? Of course my opinion matters more to me, why on earth wouldn't it? Maybe those who voted for trump and brexit would say that it is those who voted aginst both are the idiots and have fallen for the hype of the establishment self interest, who makes you and the others that agree with you correct and the clever ones, there are always two sides and different opinions, neither has the monopoly on being right but calling the other side names means you have lost the argument,if clinton and remain were soright why didnt they improve their argument to convince people ? It's not name calling - they are descriptive terms for people who espouse those views. Calling someone a racist and thick are meant as insults because "you" disagree with them, are you now saying that people cant hold views that dont aline with yours, what makes you right and them wrong ? " Erm, facts? | |||
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"Have the votes been counted for the houses of senate and representatives yet?" Republicans hold both | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter I see no hypocrisy in consistently expressing the view that Trump voters (and brexit voters for that matter) contain a significant number of racists, misogynists and idiots within their midst. Where's the hypocrisy? Of course my opinion matters more to me, why on earth wouldn't it?" no doubt people with such views may or may not have voted for bexit or trump but if you think such people exist in large enough numbers to effect the out come in my opinion you are mistaken. I know of all people from all racial demi graphs and religious demi graphs who voted for bexit. I even know of someone who was a well respected and thought of liberal councillor for over 16 years who voted for bexit. that's why I find those who call names and try to force labels on to those who don't think as they do rather alarming people in all honesty . | |||
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"Have the votes been counted for the houses of senate and representatives yet? Republicans hold both" Oh dear! | |||
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" Calling someone a racist and thick are meant as insults because "you" disagree with them, are you now saying that people cant hold views that dont aline with yours, what makes you right and them wrong ? Erm, facts? " Go on then produce facts that show you are right and the others are wrong,thats FACTS not your opinion | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter I see no hypocrisy in consistently expressing the view that Trump voters (and brexit voters for that matter) contain a significant number of racists, misogynists and idiots within their midst. Where's the hypocrisy? Of course my opinion matters more to me, why on earth wouldn't it? no doubt people with such views may or may not have voted for bexit or trump but if you think such people exist in large enough numbers to effect the out come in my opinion you are mistaken. I know of all people from all racial demi graphs and religious demi graphs who voted for bexit. I even know of someone who was a well respected and thought of liberal councillor for over 16 years who voted for bexit. that's why I find those who call names and try to force labels on to those who don't think as they do rather alarming people in all honesty . " I'm not forcing labels on anyone. People are displaying their true colours and it's very informative. (My true colours are grumpy and disappointed, clearly.) | |||
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" Calling someone a racist and thick are meant as insults because "you" disagree with them, are you now saying that people cant hold views that dont aline with yours, what makes you right and them wrong ? Erm, facts? Go on then produce facts that show you are right and the others are wrong,thats FACTS not your opinion" Need to speak to Rafa Benitez on this. He speaks only in facts | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter Erm, facts? " Smashing counter argument. | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter I see no hypocrisy in consistently expressing the view that Trump voters (and brexit voters for that matter) contain a significant number of racists, misogynists and idiots within their midst. Where's the hypocrisy? Of course my opinion matters more to me, why on earth wouldn't it? no doubt people with such views may or may not have voted for bexit or trump but if you think such people exist in large enough numbers to effect the out come in my opinion you are mistaken. I know of all people from all racial demi graphs and religious demi graphs who voted for bexit. I even know of someone who was a well respected and thought of liberal councillor for over 16 years who voted for bexit. that's why I find those who call names and try to force labels on to those who don't think as they do rather alarming people in all honesty . I'm not forcing labels on anyone. People are displaying their true colours and it's very informative. (My true colours are grumpy and disappointed, clearly.)" dealing please yes you maybe disappointed and a little unsettled by the result that's your right as a human being and for one minute do not think I do not respect you for your open and honest opinion on the subject quite the opposite in fact . I'm happy because I won money on the out come I won money on brexit to plus I've enjoyed debating with you there is not definitive answers when it comes to politics just opinions. hope your day gets better its bloody raining down here so yes I'm happy but things could be better here to .xxx | |||
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"WW3 started a while ago. Most are just to blind to see it" and Hillary Clinton started | |||
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"Officially the closest the most powerful nation have ever come to electing "millhouse" from the Simpsons as President. Historians for years to come will wonder how the fuck we didn't see WWIII coming. Shits about to get interesting folks. " I think its this thread that is stupid, Trump will be good for UK trade | |||
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"Officially the closest the most powerful nation have ever come to electing "millhouse" from the Simpsons as President. Historians for years to come will wonder how the fuck we didn't see WWIII coming. Shits about to get interesting folks. I think its this thread that is stupid, Trump will be good for UK trade" Don't bother presenting facts to them, they are completely indoctrinated. These are people who wanted a known criminal who shares a financier with ISIS in the Whitehouse because "muh racism n muh sexism" | |||
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"i think that a lot of people on here only see the result thru the prism of brexit.... which is fair because that is all that effect you.... there are wider issues this will have say goodbye to any increase in rights for minorities and LGBT people, in fact i think you could see some rolled back.... with trump choosing the 9th supreme judge, i think you have seen an end to womens right to choose and abortion rights, I do wonder if they will try and get gay marriage repealed....... paris climate change agreement i think could now be dead...... if you think the UK will be top of the queue for a trade deal post brexit... remember that TTP is Dead... and NAFTA is on life support, so those may have to be figured out first..... " thats pretty much what ive just read he plans to do... for women and minorities Id be very afraid x | |||
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"i think that a lot of people on here only see the result thru the prism of brexit.... which is fair because that is all that effect you.... there are wider issues this will have say goodbye to any increase in rights for minorities and LGBT people, in fact i think you could see some rolled back.... with trump choosing the 9th supreme judge, i think you have seen an end to womens right to choose and abortion rights, I do wonder if they will try and get gay marriage repealed....... paris climate change agreement i think could now be dead...... if you think the UK will be top of the queue for a trade deal post brexit... remember that TTP is Dead... and NAFTA is on life support, so those may have to be figured out first..... " do you think Clinton will campaign again in four years time? | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter I see no hypocrisy in consistently expressing the view that Trump voters (and brexit voters for that matter) contain a significant number of racists, misogynists and idiots within their midst. Where's the hypocrisy? Of course my opinion matters more to me, why on earth wouldn't it? Maybe those who voted for trump and brexit would say that it is those who voted aginst both are the idiots and have fallen for the hype of the establishment self interest, who makes you and the others that agree with you correct and the clever ones, there are always two sides and different opinions, neither has the monopoly on being right but calling the other side names means you have lost the argument,if clinton and remain were soright why didnt they improve their argument to convince people ?" Neither Brexit or the US election were decided on logical argument. They were decided on emotion. That emotion was anger. How many good decisions are made when people are angry? | |||
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" do you think Clinton will campaign again in four years time?" no!!!! that is it for her..... I think you will see the centrist wing of the democratic party make way for the more progressive wing.... Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, Tulsi Gabbard | |||
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"Yep. There has always been a bit of a competition between the Britain and Yanks.....so they needed to do something crazier than us...and to outdo us....we thought we had them beat with the Brexit vote, nope they did t again" UK post-Brexit: "We just did the craziest thing ever " USA: "Hold my drink..." | |||
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"The world feels like a far less kind place after Brexit and this US vote. The tone has changed. As a species there is a tendency to divide between us and them when competing for resources. Our better natures make that group larger, but under times of stress the "other" is often blamed for our problems. Thishas historically been a different race or religion. Communists, liberals and the out of touch elite have now been added to the list. Eventually, after the blood letting it inevitably turns out that nothing improves. Isolationism or military expansion eventually generate the opposite result to that wanted. I sold my shares and bought gold. I'd rather people were nicer though." There rich have been dividing us all for years and now people have had enough of it. They are sick to death of these corrupt career politicians who don't give two shits about anyone but there pockets. People calling others racist and other crap for not voting how they voted just shows how immature they are. People voted because they know that it would make a difference. People are wanting MPs and others to wake up and realise they are elected to represent us not themselves and their own agenda. People are coming together and the elite just ran scaremongering stories to get people to vote how they want. It backfired on Brexit and backfired in America. I'm glad Trump's won. Now these elite people might wake up. | |||
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"The world feels like a far less kind place after Brexit and this US vote. The tone has changed. As a species there is a tendency to divide between us and them when competing for resources. Our better natures make that group larger, but under times of stress the "other" is often blamed for our problems. Thishas historically been a different race or religion. Communists, liberals and the out of touch elite have now been added to the list. Eventually, after the blood letting it inevitably turns out that nothing improves. Isolationism or military expansion eventually generate the opposite result to that wanted. I sold my shares and bought gold. I'd rather people were nicer though. There rich have been dividing us all for years and now people have had enough of it. They are sick to death of these corrupt career politicians who don't give two shits about anyone but there pockets. People calling others racist and other crap for not voting how they voted just shows how immature they are. People voted because they know that it would make a difference. People are wanting MPs and others to wake up and realise they are elected to represent us not themselves and their own agenda. People are coming together and the elite just ran scaremongering stories to get people to vote how they want. It backfired on Brexit and backfired in America. I'm glad Trump's won. Now these elite people might wake up." I understand the anger and frustration but what do you want to actually happen? For everyone to get better jobs, more money, better healthcare, more engaged communities? How does Brexit or a Trump preidency help this happen? Trump is a very wealthy business man who was born rich and has a record of declaring bankruptcy and not paying his partners and creditors. He is the corrupt elite. | |||
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" Trump is a very wealthy business man who was born rich and has a record of declaring bankruptcy and not paying his partners and creditors. He is the corrupt elite." Exactly. The way some people talk, you'd think Trump was some kind of genius entrepreneur with a whole new way of looking at the world. He has nothing original or progressive to offer. | |||
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"The world feels like a far less kind place after Brexit and this US vote. The tone has changed. As a species there is a tendency to divide between us and them when competing for resources. Our better natures make that group larger, but under times of stress the "other" is often blamed for our problems. Thishas historically been a different race or religion. Communists, liberals and the out of touch elite have now been added to the list. Eventually, after the blood letting it inevitably turns out that nothing improves. Isolationism or military expansion eventually generate the opposite result to that wanted. I sold my shares and bought gold. I'd rather people were nicer though. There rich have been dividing us all for years and now people have had enough of it. They are sick to death of these corrupt career politicians who don't give two shits about anyone but there pockets. People calling others racist and other crap for not voting how they voted just shows how immature they are. People voted because they know that it would make a difference. People are wanting MPs and others to wake up and realise they are elected to represent us not themselves and their own agenda. People are coming together and the elite just ran scaremongering stories to get people to vote how they want. It backfired on Brexit and backfired in America. I'm glad Trump's won. Now these elite people might wake up. I understand the anger and frustration but what do you want to actually happen? For everyone to get better jobs, more money, better healthcare, more engaged communities? How does Brexit or a Trump preidency help this happen? Trump is a very wealthy business man who was born rich and has a record of declaring bankruptcy and not paying his partners and creditors. He is the corrupt elite." What I and others wanted to happen has happened. So now the ball is in the career politicians court they can either change their ways and do the job they are elected to do or carry on lining their own pockets not caring. We've already got a few deluded ones here who won't wake up Sturgeon being one of them. | |||
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"Thanks to Trump & Clinton campaigns I suddenly got interested in politics ! That was more hilarious than most stand up acts I've seen at 'Live at the Apollo'" The reason for that is that most comedians at the Apollo are not funny | |||
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" What I and others wanted to happen has happened. So now the ball is in the career politicians court they can either change their ways and do the job they are elected to do or carry on lining their own pockets not caring. " What does this even mean, though? How are the 'career politicians' not doing their jobs? What do they need to change? Nearly all politicians line their own pockets. You think Trump won't? The guy is a typical tax avoiding, loophole grabbing capitalist. | |||
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" What I and others wanted to happen has happened. So now the ball is in the career politicians court they can either change their ways and do the job they are elected to do or carry on lining their own pockets not caring. What does this even mean, though? How are the 'career politicians' not doing their jobs? What do they need to change? Nearly all politicians line their own pockets. You think Trump won't? The guy is a typical tax avoiding, loophole grabbing capitalist." They serve to serve themselves. They take the electorate for granted. They don't do as the people ask and they lie far too much. Trump bankrolled his own campaign and no doubt he might line his own pockets not that he needs to. The fact is this is a massive shake up. How can someone who's not even a politician go and become the President of America despite all the press and others being dead against him. Career politicians need to now fight to win the people back and they are gonna have to fight hard | |||
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"7 political threads in the lounge already...yep that escalated quickly " Plenty of room for them in the politics thread. I think I'm going to have a time out until they move down a few pages. | |||
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"The world feels like a far less kind place after Brexit and this US vote. The tone has changed. As a species there is a tendency to divide between us and them when competing for resources. Our better natures make that group larger, but under times of stress the "other" is often blamed for our problems. Thishas historically been a different race or religion. Communists, liberals and the out of touch elite have now been added to the list. Eventually, after the blood letting it inevitably turns out that nothing improves. Isolationism or military expansion eventually generate the opposite result to that wanted. I sold my shares and bought gold. I'd rather people were nicer though. There rich have been dividing us all for years and now people have had enough of it. They are sick to death of these corrupt career politicians who don't give two shits about anyone but there pockets. People calling others racist and other crap for not voting how they voted just shows how immature they are. People voted because they know that it would make a difference. People are wanting MPs and others to wake up and realise they are elected to represent us not themselves and their own agenda. People are coming together and the elite just ran scaremongering stories to get people to vote how they want. It backfired on Brexit and backfired in America. I'm glad Trump's won. Now these elite people might wake up. I understand the anger and frustration but what do you want to actually happen? For everyone to get better jobs, more money, better healthcare, more engaged communities? How does Brexit or a Trump preidency help this happen? Trump is a very wealthy business man who was born rich and has a record of declaring bankruptcy and not paying his partners and creditors. He is the corrupt elite. What I and others wanted to happen has happened. So now the ball is in the career politicians court they can either change their ways and do the job they are elected to do or carry on lining their own pockets not caring. We've already got a few deluded ones here who won't wake up Sturgeon being one of them." What Do You Want Them To Do? | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter " Sadly some people appear not to believe in democracy . The USA is now lead by a very successful business man . Things can only get better . | |||
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"Not surprised - the inevitable result of the toxic mix of elitism, ignorance, capitalism and patriarchy, same as Brexit. It's not 'stupidity', it's poorly-educated and massively lied to masses desperately trying to protect their privilege over the Other. This is what happens when people are politically apathetic, the bad guys will always win because they control education and the media. " Nope, its the same twats as gave us Reagan and Thatcher giving us the mark 2 versions. May trump and follow through brexit shit! | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate." quite right. The arrogance of some people and the political establishment is unbelievable. This is why they lost and they can't seem to understand it,this is why they will continue to lose if they don't change their attitudes | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate." The Americans dont vote for a presidential candidate. They recommend a candidate, the representatives sent to the electoral college vote for a candidate... Great system the popular choice nationwide is Clinton so they get a sleazy fart! | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. The Americans dont vote for a presidential candidate. They recommend a candidate, the representatives sent to the electoral college vote for a candidate... Great system the popular choice nationwide is Clinton so they get a sleazy fart!" . I thought she'd lost the popular vote as well? | |||
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"I love posts like this because you can see hypocrisy at work . you know that old one where if someone sees the world they live in differently to you they must be stupid and the ones in the wrong because obviously only the opinions of the hypocrites matter Sadly some people appear not to believe in democracy . The USA is now lead by a very successful business man . Things can only get better . " | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. The Americans dont vote for a presidential candidate. They recommend a candidate, the representatives sent to the electoral college vote for a candidate... Great system the popular choice nationwide is Clinton so they get a sleazy fart!. I thought she'd lost the popular vote as well?" nope... Clinton is actually up about 250,000 in the popular vote | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. The Americans dont vote for a presidential candidate. They recommend a candidate, the representatives sent to the electoral college vote for a candidate... Great system the popular choice nationwide is Clinton so they get a sleazy fart!. I thought she'd lost the popular vote as well? nope... Clinton is actually up about 250,000 in the popular vote" . Is that since the west coast results have come in? I'm sure i heard this morning she was down in both? | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. quite right. The arrogance of some people and the political establishment is unbelievable. This is why they lost and they can't seem to understand it,this is why they will continue to lose if they don't change their attitudes" Quite right, supreme arrogance and utter loathing and contempt for their own lower and lower middle classes. And the pollsters got it wrong because it was arrogant media 'liberals' interviewing 'social media' 'liberals', and telling each other how wonderfully PC they all were! And just for good measure US reporters are saying that MORE blacks and Hispanics voted for Trump than for Romney four years ago! | |||
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"The USA is now lead by a very successful business man . Things can only get better . " That's so funny; it's sad; but a gem of self promotion; Trump is in fact, a supremely unsuccessful business man; His enterprises fail continuously; he has relied on his fathers money, and in reality, has lost more of his fsther's money, than he has made; He has manipulated foaled businesses, by selling them off quickly, at a loss, to finance newer projects; Nowadays, he sells mostly his name; the majority of the projects named "Trump xxxxx" are named because he has sold the right to use his name, to the real owners. The majority of his " fortune" is imaginary; the real reason that he would not release his tax returns, as he did not want to expose that in reality, he is nowhere near as wealthy and successful as he says he is. And people believe him! | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. quite right. The arrogance of some people and the political establishment is unbelievable. This is why they lost and they can't seem to understand it,this is why they will continue to lose if they don't change their attitudes Quite right, supreme arrogance and utter loathing and contempt for their own lower and lower middle classes. And the pollsters got it wrong because it was arrogant media 'liberals' interviewing 'social media' 'liberals', and telling each other how wonderfully PC they all were! And just for good measure US reporters are saying that MORE blacks and Hispanics voted for Trump than for Romney four years ago!" Excellent post | |||
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"....the lunatics have taken over the asylum...." That was 23rd June. Now they're in charge if designing the new one! | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. " actually they are terminally stupid, as in the first place, they voted to bring the two worst candidates in living memory into the competition, when there were less awful options, and then were fucked as they then had no choice but to choose one of them. And then chose the worst of the two . | |||
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"Did someone forget to tell America that it's the "better" candidate they're supposed to vote for? " They looked to us for an example, saw 23rd June, and voted like we did! | |||
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"Did someone forget to tell America that it's the "better" candidate they're supposed to vote for? They looked to us for an example, saw 23rd June, and voted like we did!" . . . . . . . . The citizens of the US of A just held a lesson for their politicians. They called it : Democracy. Democracy's are never easy, Communism and Right Wing Junta's are much simpler, but in a Democracy the VOTERS get to do one big thing . . when they vote they show the politicians who holds the real power. | |||
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"Did someone forget to tell America that it's the "better" candidate they're supposed to vote for? They looked to us for an example, saw 23rd June, and voted like we did!" and good on them, shows they've got some sense and we're obviously not the laughing stock around the world that a few deluded remainers like to make out | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. quite right. The arrogance of some people and the political establishment is unbelievable. This is why they lost and they can't seem to understand it,this is why they will continue to lose if they don't change their attitudes" | |||
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"Meh - we voted for Brexit (and Farage by association) so aren't much better." We didn't vote Farage into power. | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. actually they are terminally stupid..." Does that include American blacks and Hispanics or only whites? I already know the answer. A great example of arrogant 'Liberal' racism. | |||
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"I'm channelling Bobby Ewing....going to take a quick shower and everything will be back to normal when I come out!" PMSL. | |||
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"hope they start building that mexican wall right away, then continue it all round the coast and stick a lid on it.....fours years time we can peek in to see if anything is left or if its all gone Walking Dead " | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. actually they are terminally stupid, as in the first place, they voted to bring the two worst candidates in living memory into the competition, when there were less awful options, and then were fucked as they then had no choice but to choose one of them. And then chose the worst of the two ." It is laughable when so many people on here "fab" whinge and tell us that the people of America are stupid The majority have better homes, better country, better facilities, better scenery and most of all a better life and yet so many on here sit in a shabby cold room behind a pc telling us how stupid they are. . Some really need to get a life, perhaps travel the usa rather than sit behind a pc desk. | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. actually they are terminally stupid, as in the first place, they voted to bring the two worst candidates in living memory into the competition, when there were less awful options, and then were fucked as they then had no choice but to choose one of them. And then chose the worst of the two . It is laughable when so many people on here "fab" whinge and tell us that the people of America are stupid The majority have better homes, better country, better facilities, better scenery and most of all a better life and yet so many on here sit in a shabby cold room behind a pc telling us how stupid they are. . Some really need to get a life, perhaps travel the usa rather than sit behind a pc desk." Speak for yourself. I have a lovely home and a great life. That's why I don't need a scapegoat (be that immigrants, the EU or those nasty openly gay ex Olympic fencer judges) to blame for my shitty little life. | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. actually they are terminally stupid, as in the first place, they voted to bring the two worst candidates in living memory into the competition, when there were less awful options, and then were fucked as they then had no choice but to choose one of them. And then chose the worst of the two . It is laughable when so many people on here "fab" whinge and tell us that the people of America are stupid The majority have better homes, better country, better facilities, better scenery and most of all a better life and yet so many on here sit in a shabby cold room behind a pc telling us how stupid they are. . Some really need to get a life, perhaps travel the usa rather than sit behind a pc desk. Speak for yourself. I have a lovely home and a great life. That's why I don't need a scapegoat (be that immigrants, the EU or those nasty openly gay ex Olympic fencer judges) to blame for my shitty little life. " make up your mind!!! one minute you say you have a "great life" next minute you say you have a "shitty little life" . are you often confused? | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. actually they are terminally stupid, as in the first place, they voted to bring the two worst candidates in living memory into the competition, when there were less awful options, and then were fucked as they then had no choice but to choose one of them. And then chose the worst of the two . It is laughable when so many people on here "fab" whinge and tell us that the people of America are stupid The majority have better homes, better country, better facilities, better scenery and most of all a better life and yet so many on here sit in a shabby cold room behind a pc telling us how stupid they are. . Some really need to get a life, perhaps travel the usa rather than sit behind a pc desk. Speak for yourself. I have a lovely home and a great life. That's why I don't need a scapegoat (be that immigrants, the EU or those nasty openly gay ex Olympic fencer judges) to blame for my shitty little life. make up your mind!!! one minute you say you have a "great life" next minute you say you have a "shitty little life" . are you often confused?" No, I don't have a shitty little life. It's the trump and brexit voters who are angry about their lives. At least, that's what we're being told, isn't it? I'll try to keep it to two syllables or less in future, to avoid confusion. | |||
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"The majority of the americans arent as stupid as i thought, they voted for the right canditate. actually they are terminally stupid... Does that include American blacks and Hispanics or only whites? I already know the answer. A great example of arrogant 'Liberal' racism. " | |||
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"Most Americans are not stupid rather like most of those who voted for Brexit are not racist, it is the Liberal Elite and the likes who are out of touch with the majority and think that because people have voted contrary to their opinions they must be stupid, racist, sexist or some other reason not that they might have a valid reason. Politics in recent years has changed it used to vote for us because we have listened to your concerns and will try to make changes to improve your lives and allay your fears, now it is vote for us because we know what is right for you. They are dictating to the populous rather that convincing them. This is ironically turning into a lecture but for those that wonder how people could vote for Brexit or Trump they should perhaps watch the Ken Loach film 'I, Daniel Blake' which many are lauding and ask yourself this if that film is a true representation of life outside of London why, when asked to vote to remain or leave the EU would somebody in that situation choose to remain. The same is true for Americans disregard the likes of New York, Washington and Los Angeles, the rest of America is not having quite such a rosy time of it. Clinton represented the establishment whilst Trump was a new voice saying things that a large number of Americans wanted to hear. Will he do many of the outrageous things he promised during the election I suspect not and in 4 years time Americans will decide if they like what he has done. " | |||
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