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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Im not going to confess to knowing the ins and outs,,but from the press side of things and based on character/personality i hope Hilary wins it. "
So do I! Liked her for years but she's had a dismal campaign |
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over a year ago
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Clinton is the personification of evil - her main donors are Saudi Arabia and a rogue hedge funder who bets against currencies, causing crashes on every continent, she has been investigated by the FBI twice during the campaign, is pushing for a nuclear war with Russia and has openly stated that she plans to make North America boarder less...
But Trump said something crass about a woman, go Hillary!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Clinton is the personification of evil - her main donors are Saudi Arabia and a rogue hedge funder who bets against currencies, causing crashes on every continent, she has been investigated by the FBI twice during the campaign, is pushing for a nuclear war with Russia and has openly stated that she plans to make North America boarder less...
But Trump said something crass about a woman, go Hillary!! "
Obviously you believe everything Trump says... ok. Your choice. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Clinton is the personification of evil - her main donors are Saudi Arabia and a rogue hedge funder who bets against currencies, causing crashes on every continent, she has been investigated by the FBI twice during the campaign, is pushing for a nuclear war with Russia and has openly stated that she plans to make North America boarder less...
But Trump said something crass about a woman, go Hillary!!
Obviously you believe everything Trump says... ok. Your choice. "
None of that has come from Trumps mouth, but was exposed by Julian Assange via Wikileaks. Keep up. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Clinton is the personification of evil - her main donors are Saudi Arabia and a rogue hedge funder who bets against currencies, causing crashes on every continent, she has been investigated by the FBI twice during the campaign, is pushing for a nuclear war with Russia and has openly stated that she plans to make North America boarder less...
But Trump said something crass about a woman, go Hillary!! "
I think trump said something a little more than crass about a woman.
I think Hilary is the lesser of the two evils though |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not sure. It's a very close one. But I will say, it says a lot about how jaded some of the American people have become, if Trump gets voted in. I find it slightly alarming that someone with such radical view points could be voted in as the next American President |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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....its about time the americans woke up to the fact that this could end up being their worst nightmare of their own making.cannot believe that after all this time the only two people the americans think are a good choice to run their country is their ex-presidents wife and a dangerous man capabable of aleinating half their country by just opening his big mouth.hilary clinton is the best choice by far and if the americans could change their laws at this late stage they would vote to keep obama in indtead. |
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"....its about time the americans woke up to the fact that this could end up being their worst nightmare of their own making.cannot believe that after all this time the only two people the americans think are a good choice to run their country is their ex-presidents wife and a dangerous man capabable of aleinating half their country by just opening his big mouth.hilary clinton is the best choice by far and if the americans could change their laws at this late stage they would vote to keep obama in indtead."
Hilary thought it was her turn in 2008... turns out the Democrats went for Barak Obama.
She is by far the the better of the two but she's deeply, deeply unpopular.
Just imagine what would happen once she gets in... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Trump, all day.
The whole thing has been amusing in the same way Brexit was though. The "anti-establishment" left aggressively fighting for the will of the globalists and bankers has been truly hilarious.
They have absolutely no idea what their own ideals are and they don't care, so long as they scream "racist" as someone. |
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"The measure of popularity and success rarely finish side by side when dissecting any political career....
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Yeah, if you've watched any of the 'debates' or seen the rock star rallies they have, it has nothing about policy or issues - it's a beauty pageant.
"Vote for me, I'm nice!"
Errm, that's it? |
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"Trump, all day.
The whole thing has been amusing in the same way Brexit was though. The "anti-establishment" left aggressively fighting for the will of the globalists and bankers has been truly hilarious.
They have absolutely no idea what their own ideals are and they don't care, so long as they scream "racist" as someone. "
I used to think you were cute |
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"Trump, all day.
The whole thing has been amusing in the same way Brexit was though. The "anti-establishment" left aggressively fighting for the will of the globalists and bankers has been truly hilarious.
They have absolutely no idea what their own ideals are and they don't care, so long as they scream "racist" as someone.
I used to think you were cute"
About 10 mins ago... |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Trump, all day.
The whole thing has been amusing in the same way Brexit was though. The "anti-establishment" left aggressively fighting for the will of the globalists and bankers has been truly hilarious.
They have absolutely no idea what their own ideals are and they don't care, so long as they scream "racist" as someone. "
Lot's of white guilt amongst the Left. Not l. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Trump, all day.
I used to think you were cute"
I don't know why who I'd hypothetically vote for is an issue. I'm British.
Reacting angrily to people who vote differently to you isn't very tolerant or liberal of you, old bean. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Do any of you actually have any idea what's happening, Clinton is a pedophile saving weirdo, look it up,she is also responsible for funding creating isis, and selling arms to Saudi Arabia over 2bn of tanks and weapons, to might I add to the people responsible for 911 look it up documents waiting to be released since 9/11 prove this have a look at her fitting on camera also she's not fit to run the govemernt,
I could. Go on and on and on and on,
But it's to much for people who won't appreciate it I'm not wasting my time,
And trumps no better,
All it take is for people to stand up and there game of chess is over we are the table in that of they are playing chess on stand up and the game is ruined
Fuck the banking cartal fuck the one percent
Done. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Clinton. Without shadow of a doubt. I'm fairly right-wing, but it's a no-brainer.
The issue for me is less what Trump might actually do within the US, because the checks and balances within the system over there should prevent him from being able to enact his most egregious ideas. However no checks and balances are available which would make up for a president who can't make a decision, has no awareness of foreign diplomacy and can't deliver a speech without threatening someone. |
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"Trump, all day.
The whole thing has been amusing in the same way Brexit was though. The "anti-establishment" left aggressively fighting for the will of the globalists and bankers has been truly hilarious.
They have absolutely no idea what their own ideals are and they don't care, so long as they scream "racist" as someone.
Lot's of white guilt amongst the Left. Not l."
El oh 'ell |
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"Trump, all day.
I used to think you were cute
I don't know why who I'd hypothetically vote for is an issue. I'm British.
Reacting angrily to people who vote differently to you isn't very tolerant or liberal of you, old bean. "
Told you already - you're better off keeping your mouth shut, standing in the corner & looking mysterious |
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Would you vote for a man who:
* After a video from 2005 was released of Trump making obscene comments and bragging about sexually abusing women was released, the Republican hopeful responded by writing the episode off as just ‘locker room banter’.
* On Senator John McCain, former Vietnam PoW: "I like people who weren’t captured"
* On Mexican immigrants: "They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists"
* On Planned Parenthood: "It is like an abortion factory, which is terrible"
* On Muslims: "Complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on"
Does any of that strike you as reasonable?
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"Would you vote for a man who:
* After a video from 2005 was released of Trump making obscene comments and bragging about sexually abusing women was released, the Republican hopeful responded by writing the episode off as just ‘locker room banter’.
* On Senator John McCain, former Vietnam PoW: "I like people who weren’t captured"
* On Mexican immigrants: "They’re bringing drugs, they’re bringing crime, they’re rapists"
* On Planned Parenthood: "It is like an abortion factory, which is terrible"
* On Muslims: "Complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what is going on"
Does any of that strike you as reasonable?
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Wait! There's more!
* "If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her"
* “All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me – consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”
* “I mean, we could say politically correct that look doesn’t matter, but the look obviously matters… like you wouldn’t have your job if you weren’t beautiful.”
* "If Hillary Clinton can't satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?"
* “I would bring back waterboarding and I'd bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding."
And the best of the lot...
* “I have no intention of ever running for president.” (TIME Interview 1987)
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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago
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"Clinton. Without shadow of a doubt. I'm fairly right-wing, but it's a no-brainer.
The issue for me is less what Trump might actually do within the US, because the checks and balances within the system over there should prevent him from being able to enact his most egregious ideas. However no
checks and balances are available which would make up for a president who can't make a decision, has no awareness of foreign diplomacy and can't deliver a speech without threatening someone. "
That sounds like a pretty levelled judgment! Refreshing |
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By (user no longer on site)
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"Does matter who gets in they are only puppets the real people who run countries are always sat in the background and never seen or heard of "
This wouldn't apply with Trump, as he isn't a member of "the club", hence the powers that be launching daily smear campaigns against him through mainstream media outlets.
If Clinton wins, as you say, it will be Soros and his pals who actually run things. A man who pays activists to cause civil unrest, has put four continents in to a recession for his own gain, owns the voting machines in countries where voter fraud is highly suspected (Venezuela, the former Soviet states, Balkans, etc) and who posed as a Hungarian Nazi in WW2 and dispossessed his fellow Jews to save his own skin. He also wants Putin "dealt with"
Trump isn't the sharpest tool in the box, but if we're talking about the lesser of two evils, Trump would be a no brainer.
Theres the small matter of imminent war with Russia that we over here would get involved in if Clinton wins as well. WW3 sound like fun? |
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"Does matter who gets in they are only puppets the real people who run countries are always sat in the background and never seen or heard of
This wouldn't apply with Trump, as he isn't a member of "the club", hence the powers that be launching daily smear campaigns against him through mainstream media outlets.
If Clinton wins, as you say, it will be Soros and his pals who actually run things. A man who pays activists to cause civil unrest, has put four continents in to a recession for his own gain, owns the voting machines in countries where voter fraud is highly suspected (Venezuela, the former Soviet states, Balkans, etc) and who posed as a Hungarian Nazi in WW2 and dispossessed his fellow Jews to save his own skin. He also wants Putin "dealt with"
Trump isn't the sharpest tool in the box, but if we're talking about the lesser of two evils, Trump would be a no brainer.
Theres the small matter of imminent war with Russia that we over here would get involved in if Clinton wins as well. WW3 sound like fun? "
How are we headed for WWIII, young padawan? |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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If it was kermit the frog opposing Trump.. Id hope kermit got in...
Ive paid a lot of attention to this election.. mostly being that its been everywhere this time.. and really.. I still can't work out why anyone would vote Trump. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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They are both bloody awful in reality... she is preferable...just... but he is a whole new level of fucked up!! I think South Park captured this farce rather well! |
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Clinton without a doubt despite the fact she is embedded in the political backhanding heirarchy that keeps the haves from the have nots.
I am worried though that the anti establishment feelings in the US will get Trump across the line in a similar way that some people voted for Brexit simply because they were sick to death of the two faced political establishment in the UK.
even if Trump loses, which I pray he does as he is little more than a narcassistic megalomaniac I think the Republicans will get the Senate and yet more gridlock will prevail.
Happy Tuesday by the way!! Shall we all send naughty pics to each other to cheer us up |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Trump...will get it.
I hope he does too... It'll wake up American middle class hibernation and Bury-your- head -in -the sand -idiots.
Like Brexit it'll waken up people and clean up the politicians... The way the gun laws are over there he may not be in power too long but long enough for the general public to wake up. |
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"I'm not sure. It's a very close one. But I will say, it says a lot about how jaded some of the American people have become, if Trump gets voted in. I find it slightly alarming that someone with such radical view points could be voted in as the next American President "
From interviews I've seen, it looks like most are not taking into account Trump's personality traits but viewing him as a business man and prefer that to voting for Hilary |
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"Clinton is the personification of evil - her main donors are Saudi Arabia and a rogue hedge funder who bets against currencies, causing crashes on every continent, she has been investigated by the FBI twice during the campaign, is pushing for a nuclear war with Russia and has openly stated that she plans to make North America boarder less...
But Trump said something crass about a woman, go Hillary!! "
Seriously what I find more frightening and disheartening and is genuinely making me more anti human and reclusive is that I am walking amongst people who seriously defend and endorse the DT point of view and that the proportion of creatures that endorse his point of view are more numerous and vocal than I feel depicts a civilised world
If DT became president I honestly don't feel he would be able to do much harm .however the reflection of a majority of humans and their thinking is already devastating |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"Whose finger would you rather have on the nuclear button ??????? Neither for me x"
I think that argument lost much fear 20 yrs ago.... everyone wants to save themselves and pressing any nuclear button is a self distrust and self annialation so it's most unlikely to happen. Cyber war...yes. Now Clinton certainly knows how to put national security at risk from within the Pentagon too! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I'm not convinced that Hillary is the lesser of the two evils with over 20 million dollars pumped into her campaign from Saudi Arabia I don't think for a minute that her loyalties lie with the American people!
To much melding from Saudi and America and UK in the middle east with a massive effort to overturn assad and the Syrian government and used the excuse they were using chemical weapons in their own people.
Our mp's then got to vote on our behalf as to if we should take militarily action which resulted in a NO decision and guess what we did anyway along with America and look at what's happened to Syria since!
We are just a puppet for America and the dirty hands that feed them and other countries have opened their eyes to this and if we carry on the way we are then it will be a global disaster so although Trump isn't the best candidate he will at least stand a better chance to smooth things over and calm tensions with Russia China India and Iran.
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The question would also be if Trump did get in... do Congress back him?
( they may have the majority there but doesn't mean they like him more /less than Joe blogs )
If they DO then there is a reason to worry. |
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By *abioMan
over a year ago
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"So what we thinking is gonna happen tonight?"
it could be a really quick night.... or a really late night....
key places to look at early....
12am our time... polls close in florida, virginia and new hampshire
if florida gets called early for clinton... game over...
if georgia also goes to clinton.. it will be a rout
if florida and new hampshire get called for trump... we move on
12.30... polls close in ohio and north carolina .... trump needs both as much as florida... again if clinton wins either... its done!
1am.... the midwestern "blue wall" states all close..... trump needs to win 1 of pennsylvania, michigan, minnesota.... none have gone red since 92.....
2am.... wisconsin, arizona, colorado..... trump baiscally needs a sweep.... or 2 of these.. if not all
shocker.... if texas is not called straight away, you KNOW the rout is on
3am.... iowa, nevada.... again trump could do with the sweep... hillary will be happy with a split
4am..... all the west cost states are call... all will go for hillary.... if it is really really close..... we then need to go on to....
this is when we hear ifs trump speech tries to unite the nation... or blow it up!!!
5am..... alaska... yes!!!alaska!!!! it should be republican.... trump leads clinton there by 1!!! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I saw the border yesterday on the trump program on bbc1, between usa and mexico, it is just a small lake they need to swim over and a border that dont get watched 24/7. I can see why it need strengthening up. |
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Seriously what I find more frightening and disheartening and is genuinely making me more anti human and reclusive is that I am walking amongst people who seriously defend and endorse the DT point of view and that the proportion of creatures that endorse his point of view are more numerous and vocal than I feel depicts a civilised world
If DT became president I honestly don't feel he would be able to do much harm .however the reflection of a majority of humans and their thinking is already devastating "
this..
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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I see this way.
Trump is dumb but reliable
Clinton is smarter (not smart) but not reliable
If I was in America I would rather have a dumb reliable president surrounded with advisers, than a still dumb president who's completely unreliable. |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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"i think all of america will stay up just to hear the donald trump concession speech.... its bound to be epic... bigly!!!! "
Concession? The guy has never heard of the word! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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We all want Cliton to win! Not least because we want to see the look on Bill's face when it gets out she's had a young intern lick out her pussy on the Oval office desk! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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On a serious note, I hope the Democrats sweep both houses! The Republicans have deliverately screwed Obama from achieving anything - he has no legacy to speak of because they just blocked, blocked, blocked!
Obama's probably the best President America never really had! |
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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago
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Anyone who bashes Hillary because of trumps words really don't understand how the system works, if the house and senate do not propose and pass bills then nothing gets done no matter the veto, look at there healthcare, how long it took Obama to get something in place how much they fought it, how watered down it became and the lack luster implementation, all private companies fighting back. Hillary for president because she is the better candidate |
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Trump does rallies every day, 4-7 a day now, get sold out everywhere he goes 30,000+ people at every single event. hillary can't even get a classroom full of Liberals to show up at any of her events. |
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"On a serious note, I hope the Democrats sweep both houses! The Republicans have deliverately screwed Obama from achieving anything - he has no legacy to speak of because they just blocked, blocked, blocked!
Obama's probably the best President America never really had! "
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"Trump does rallies every day, 4-7 a day now, get sold out everywhere he goes 30,000+ people at every single event. hillary can't even get a classroom full of Liberals to show up at any of her events."
Unless she gets her celeb 'friends' like Beyonce, Jay Z and Bruce Springsteen to do a show, but then the people are not there to see her they are there to watch the musical performances. |
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